Club Shay Shay - Nightcap - Hour 2: Caitlin Clark poised for MVP Season + NFL allows participation in Olympic Flag Football

Episode Date: May 21, 2025

Shannon Sharpe, Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson, and Nick Van Exel debate the expectations for Fever star Caitlin Clark, the NFL owners permitting players to participate in 2028 Summer Olympics flag football, and much more!01:47 - Dream fell at home24:30 - NFL players allowed to play flag football in 2028 summer olympics31:29 - Jeanty changing pre-snap stance35:17 - Dak needs 1500 yrs to pass Aikman and 2740 to pass Romo46:14 - Burrow not happy about season schedule49:37 - New Orleans Inmate Capture Watch1:03:35 - Q & Ayyyy(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Listen to Good Company on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The volume. All right, Nick, we're gonna get you out of here with this. The Indiana Fever fell at home to the Atlanta Dream tonight, 91-90. Ron Howard balled out 20 points, three steals, four made threes, two clutch free throws to secure the win. Katelyn Clark, 27 and 11, and now holds the record for the most 25-point tennis games in WNBA history, despite only playing one year and two games. She has the most 25-10 games in WNBA history,

despite only playing one year, two games. Kailin Clark has six, Sabrina Neskul has five, DT, the great Diana Taurasi has four. Nobody else has more than two. Clark did it in 44 career games. They've been, look, they've been a lot of back and forth. I think a lot of people didn't wanna give her the credit that she deserved, where she need to play X amount of years.

When a player is great in his rookie year, he's great. Ain't nobody try to hold Magic back. Ain't nobody try to hold Magic back. Ain't nobody try to hold Bird back. They were good. And people acknowledge they were good. How, what is it from what you can see, Nick, having played the game, having coached the game, still being around the game, having been around the game,

still following the game with your own podcast. What is it about Caitlin Clark that makes us so polarizing? Well, to me, even when she was in college, man, I said she's going to dominate once she gets to the WNBA. I knew it. I could see it. For one, her range is crazy. So now the defense got to pick her up hiring on the court.

Now if you pick me up on the court and as quick as I am and as good as my hand is is guess what now I'm gonna live in your paint. And when I'm living in your paint on I'm driving it off Boston get your layup get this layup get this layup. So to me watching these watching Kaitlin is Teams are overly aggressive right and she's not fazed by that

you know I'm saying like she's you know how Luca when Luca played against the Clippers and Yeah, the fans we like our Clippers Kawhi PG Pat They finna beat Luca up and look, I ain't worried about that. He playing at his own pace. Kaitlin Clark plays at her own pace. So while you want to be aggressive, guess what she going to do? She's going to use that against you. And a lot of times they'd use their aggression on the court. So the reason why she's able to get that mania assist, they not

for threes a lot of times they for bunnies, they for bunny layup. Yep. Because that being is just sitting in that pocket. She getting that pass rolling. She getting easy layups. Well, Caitlin, man, like all through like her little short WNBA career. I said this about this girl, man, was the fact that everybody on the outside was just turp, turp, chirp, chirp, chirp.

You ain't hear that girl say one word. Nope. She didn't say one word. You know what she kept doing? She kept hooping. Getting better. She got it, dog. She got it.

She ain't worried about that other stuff. She got it. You know what I said, Nick? I said the same thing. And people said, with Trey Young, I said, Trey Young's gonna be good in the NBA. Man, he too small. I said, the dude led the nation in scoring and assists.

So if he can't score, he can facilitate. And if you try to take away his big, he can score. When you can shoot the ball with the range she has, she can get all the way to the rim. You see how she's getting, she's averaging eight assists a game in college. You mean to tell me that's not going to translate? Of course it is, because she's not one dimensional.

Now, we saw Jimmer for that struggle, because he could only shoot the ball. So now with bigger guys, they crowd him. He had a hard time. Now, Trey Young, OK, yeah, you crowd him. Jimmer didn't have the handle that Trey had that can get his own Shot off Jimmer couldn't facilitate Trey can get you a 30-20 game There hasn't been very many guys in NBA history that could get you a 30-20 game. He can

Caitlin Clark has that exact ability She can go get you a 2010 or 2015 game She can go get you a 2010 or 2015 game, maybe even a 30-15 game because she has that ability. She can handle the ball. She's tremendous off the dribble. Like you said, she can get downhill. Oh, she can get downhill. Hey, I'm taking that with you right there.

Ha-da. Or now, if I'm playing her, if I catch her going right, that's when she's gonna get that three off on you. If you notice most of her threes, when she hit that one in college that broke the record, the one she hit against the Brazilian team, she likes to float right, I mean left, excuse me. Hey, but you know, you could think about too, Nick,

about why people obviously question players that are great in college, obviously excluding someone like a Caitlin Clark or Trey Young, but we see so many players that are great in college, most of the time not paying attention, whether they're one dimension or whether they can put the ball on the floor

or what they can do, but they play so great in college and you see so many of them get to the NBA and they never pan out to what they can be. So then even with some of his greatest Trey Young or some of his greatest Clayton Clark is, obviously with the hype surrounding them as well, they always doubt it. They always doubt it because it's not the elite of the elite

or it's not the highest level. So they always question it until they get there and they actually prove everybody wrong. And that's what Trey Young was able to do. And obviously, Clayton Clark can do it as well. I think a lot of it has to do, Nick, because of their size. Because if Trey Young was able to do. Now obviously, Kaitlin Clark can do it as well. I think a lot of it has to do, Nick, because of their size. Because if Trey Young was 6'5", and led the nation to score it in the sixth, it wouldn't have been no issue.

But he's 6''. Kaitlin Clark, she's not Asia Wilson. She's not 6'4", 6'5", like a Stewie. And so people look at it like, well, I mean, she ain't gonna play with her back to the basket, blah, blah, blah. But you have to look at what they're able to do, how they're able to create points. Not only can I create for me, I can create for you and make it easier for you. And so when you factor those things in, I mean, damn, they won't, you

won't God to give them everything. So you won't God to make trade average 27 points in college, average double digital assist in college, and make him 6'4", 6'5"? So you want Caitlin Clark to be able to handle the ball like she handles, shoot the ball from the three like she does, and make her Stewie or Asia Wilson height. How fair would that be? It's a lot of hate also.

A lot of people hate it. It is. Brave, you know what I'm saying? A lot of people hate it on Caitlin, you know what I lot of people hate it. It is. You know what I'm saying? A lot of people hate it on Kaitlin. You know what I'm saying? And it comes with the territory, right? It comes with the territory. And and the form of respect that I thought that they showed Kaitlin last year

was in the All-Star game, picking her up full court in the All-Star game. Beating her up during the season, which is which is normal. Like you come in as a top player, guess what? We finished showing you, you know what I'm saying? Welcome to our league. We know you're going to be good, but welcome to our league. Take this with you. That's normal, Pastor Bartlett.

You know what I'm saying? She handled it. She wasn't tripping. It was just the outside tripping. And that's why I get, that's why she gained so much respect for me is because she ain't never getting to the media crying about, you know what I'm saying? She let the outside noise cry.

She just bawled out, man. All that what? The game that they had on Saturday was the most viewed game since 2000. Normally her games, they sell out. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter how good the opposing team is. We know when they go to New York and they play the Liberty, we understand when

they come to Las Vegas and play the Aces, we understand that it doesn't matter who she plays the state. I mean, I went to the game when they played the Aces, I mean, and you would have thought she was on the home team when they introduced her. I ain't telling what somebody told me. Oh, I'm telling what I'm there. I'm there. I hear it.

I heard it. Yeah. She different. Now I saw at the all-star game. I was at the all-star game in Phoenix, in Arizona. You, she got a novation that rivals Asia, Asia Wilson, you know, from an individual standpoint The the last NBA player that in my eyes who had that kind of effect on?

on a society was that damn Allen Iris Yeah, I had that same effect man because when he went into an opposing arena He got a standing ovation. Sometimes you get teams going like the Lakers, the Lakers, the Knicks, a team can go cool and opposing AI to me outside of Jordan was that next person. You know what I'm saying? That when he went into any arena in the country, man, he got that standing ovation beginning all throughout the game. They cheer for AI.

Caitlin Clark got that same effect right now in the WNBA and she's bringing eyeballs and sponsors and Advertisers and they're about to do a new deal That's gonna generate millions and millions of dollars is gonna crease the other salary So a one-year salary, so now a one-year set year max player might get three 350 400,000 Why y'all think that is? To me is this is a win-win for the ladies man. You know, it's a win-win

It's a win-win keep hey keep beating it up. You know, I'm saying keep making them rough for you Know I'm saying because that's making her better. That's making her team better now her team you see her team They come into her defense now, you see her team, they coming to her defense now. You know, she got better people around her. They coming to her defense, but I love the women's game. To me, the women I made way more fundamentally sound than the NBA guys, than the mid side.

And I love to see these girls, and I love to see when the good games, the Indianas against the, you know what I I'm saying the Las Vegas Aces and the yeah yeah the Aces in Minnesota yes or the Liberty yeah you know I don't know how good I think Dallas is gonna be I think I think the Mercury's gonna be pretty good this year also they they they added a few pieces I think Sabatel Sabali, Satu? Yeah, I think they added her, they added somebody else too, the Mercury did. They picked up two players because BG is now in Atlanta. Yeah, look, I remember when they first came in, the Institute, I

think it was 96 when they brought the WNBA to the, and normally when the women left, I mean, you never heard from them again. I go back to Cheryl Biller and Pam and Paula McGee. I remember all those, Clarissa Davis. I remember all the old, the old guard was coming in and then started watching, back then with La Tech, La Tech with Kim Malkin,

they won the national championship, and the USC knocked them off, and then Texas knocked them off, and then here comes Tennessee. And Tennessee ran it for years, and then here comes UConn. Yeah. But now, I mean, now with the parity, and the league spread out, and it's growing,

and it's getting eyeballs, look, you said you want to say people started watching NBA got interested when magic and bird came. Right. You said you want to say magic and bird did that because the game was still tape delayed. You fly commercial. Yep. You could, you could get on a plane and you might be sitting, sitting next to

your favorite NBA player. So, so a, a, Caitlin is doing an unbelievable job. You're right. Oh, Joe, you know, I didn't want the rookie come in. We don't make it easy on them. A linebacker safety corner. Hey, the whole, I'm throwing up, give you the whole nine yards. All I'm bringing out all the tricks.

I'm trying to make it look as bad as I possibly can. Cause what you think those other, those other guys, another team gonna do, you think they gonna, oh man, your A, man, he didn't know what pick, let's take it easy on him. Hell nah. Everybody's trying to prove a point. Everybody got to prove that point.

Cause bro, first of all, I don't ever want you to think that you can cover me. So I'm gonna get to you, I'm gonna get to you early and often. That's why I went to the pro ball show. We had one-on-one. Now, now you're not going to cover me. Cause I don't want you to get back to the mainland. In fact, you can cover me.

It ain't just cause you over there know why that you can't do it. When we come back to the regular stage, the 48th, you ain't going to see me over there either, so we could just so we know way. You're on the same page. Everything is, but, uh, she's, she's box office. I mean, she's what she's already now did listed the top guards, the top centers, the top forwards, she's already top guard second year in the league. Yes.

And she was, she was all WNBA second year in the league. Yes. And she was all WNBA, first year in the league. And she's a favorite to win the MVP, second year in the league. That's correct. She's going to show you. Oh, she hype. No, she not hype. I've seen hype. No, that's not media creation.

That girl can... Yeah. Excuse me. That young lady can really, really play. Yeah, listen, if you got a set of Yeah, excuse me that young lady can really really play Me I can see if you got it. You got a set of eyes. You know that yes anything Anything outside of that at some point it becomes Okay, now you just hear you try to find fault. Yeah, I Think when the WNBA first came out cuz I was I was around it

I was living in Houston and they had the comics, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. Yeah, they had everybody. Yeah, they had everybody. They had Cynthia Cooper, they had Tina Thompson, and they had Sean Sloops. Sloops, yeah.

They had three of the top six players in the NBA. Yes, they did. And I remember vividly when Rebecca Lobo came on the scene, like the WNBA was just trying to promote Rebecca Lobo. And Ocho just said it, you know what I'm saying? You got a ball. The eye test is going to tell you, like you can't force nobody on us.

You know what I'm saying? No way. Kaitlyn Clark, you ain't gotta try to force her on the public. Like she can hoop, you know what I'm saying? So kudos to her because she's helping the game out big time. Having the big time is gonna grow exponentially. A lot of their games are gonna be nationally televised. I thought she should have been

on the Olympic team last year. I thought she was that good. Hey, she got away to a turn, but her turn is coming, definitely coming in 2028. Nick, the chat keep asking us about some Kobe stories, rest your soul. What's your favorite Kobe story? Man favorite Kobe story, so Of course everybody know we used to we used to play one-on-one all the time and you know

Kobe was a big time and one player at that time, you know and one was hot and I know why Kobe had better hammers than me. And so you remember the dunk he did and we all going crazy on the sideline. That happened to be a pre-season game, right? Pre-season game in Vegas. Yeah. People don't understand, like,

they thinking we celebrating the dunk. No, we ain celebrate in the dump. No, we celebrate in the dump. Dale Harris in the huddle, the Kobe, come up, get the ball. We're going fake screening with that. Who plays for Kobe? He walk out. He telling everybody. And Kobe, Kobe used to walk, you know, he Kobe was about eight feet tall, man. The way he walked, because, you know, he had he about eight feet tall man the way he walked cuz it's you know

He had the swag, you know what I'm saying? The swag is crazy and He just walking up the air body. I'm about to dump on this food. I'm about to dump on this fool I'm about to cross this fool love and dump on Oh Oh That's why we were crazy Because that man sit that's the one he put behind his back. It came up under the real. Oh, no, no. The one when he just crossed them up and came down on the

middle. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah. And then I think Ben Wallace tried to take the charge. Yeah. And so we, we was tripping because, uh, 18, 19 year old literally just told us I'm about to cross this fool up and dunk on it. So when he did it, our reaction wasn't to dunk.

Our reaction was, damn, this little just said what he was about to do. And it did it. That's why we was tripping. We was like, Oh my God. Wow. I'm Michael Kasson, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures and your guide on Good Company, the podcast where I sit down with the boldest innovators shaping what's next.

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podcasts. Nick, did you know practicing with him, he was, you know, he came in as a 17 year old. Did he, did you see any indication that he was going to turn out to be what he was? Not as good. It was an indication he was going to be good, but not the greatness. You know what I'm saying? But here's things that I saw in him that when you look back, you can understand, right? So one was he was taking classes at UCLA in the summertime.

Summertime UCLA, we going up there to hoop, you know what I'm saying? So right, every time I'm walking to the gym, Kobe walking this way. So we cross some paths, He got a backpack on. He drilled in his ball. What up quick. He gone.

I'm talking about, it was like, it was like clockwork every day. This is how we would every day. That was one thing every day after practice. He got all the power forwards, the six, nine, six, 10, six, 11 guys, and they play them one-on-one with them. But he the only one that can shoot. He the only one that can shoot. So now he working on all the Jordan moves,

all the Jordan fadeways. So they get a point if he miss, he get a point if he make, every day, every day. So I used to have these VHS tapes, right? And they was, they was full of the goat. You know what I'm saying? Michael Jordan, the goat. About eight hours work, right? The goat, Michael Jordan, the goat.

I ain't buying it too, Nick. I ain't buying, I heard you the first time, but you already know. So, so I had about six to eight hours of the BHS, like two or three of them. Right. And I would put them on a plane and it have boxing on it. It had football. It had just all highlights. It was crazy. And man, one time we get ready to get on the plane. Kobe's everybody called Kobe Kicko.

We call Kicko Kicko Kicko and get that tape. So I gave him let him get me two tapes. I ain't seen them tapes, man. I still ain't seen them. And Tracy McGrady, oh, oh, Tracy McGrady said that when he came out to L.A. and stayed with Kobe Nell, he said, all Kobe did was watch Michael Jordan. I'm like, yeah, motherfucker, that's my taste.

But that was that was like we knew he was going to be good. We knew he was going to be good. Like we knew that the greatness like historically great. I tell I tell people like. Kobe was way more mature than us and we were three, four years in the league before Kobe, but he was way more mature than us. And we were three, four years in the league before Kobe, but he was way more mature than us. So yeah, man, he worked at being great. It ain't just happen. Yeah.

Nick, tell the people where they can find you. Plug your podcast. What's your podcast called? So it's a Quick to the Point, man. Nick Van Hefsen Quick to the Point on YouTube, man. Check this out, man. We just getting started, man. Who's your co-host?

We got a Brandon Dean University of Arkansas legend Johnny Collins TCU track star so him and Clarence Hill Dallas Cowboy beat writer. Yep yep yep I know Clarence very well. Yeah. Where can they find you on IG and Twitter? Man I literally just got on IG a few weeks ago. I think it's Nick, Nick the Quick Van Exel. Nick the Quick Van Exel on IG and on Twitter. That's the one I'm always active on is Van Exel, my last name 31, the number 31, Van Exel 31 on Twitter.

Make sure y'all go check, y'all make sure y'all check out Nick Van Exer on his podcast at Twitter and IG. Nick, thanks for joining us. Give us a few minutes tonight, man. Greatly appreciate it. When you get a few moments, come back and stop by and talk to us.

Yes, sir. Oh, save me one of those sticks, man. Oh, I got you. I got a few of them. When you coming back out here. I gotta come back out there in about two weeks. Hey, tell your brother though, I'm headed to South Carolina. I'm trying to see him on that course.

Oh, you OK? I'm headed to South Carolina. You want to play for some money or something? I need to tell him to get his money right. No, I'm good. All right, man. Hey, appreciate that, man. I talk to you, bro. I appreciate y'all, man. Hey, appreciate that, man. I talked to you, bro. Appreciate y'all, man. Oh Joe.

What up baby? It's official. NFL players will be allowed to compete in flag football in LA 28 Olympic games. NFL owners have now officially approved a resolution to allow their players to participate in flag football in the 2028 Summer Olympics by a vote 32-0. Unanimous. The NFL version of the dream team is coming. Justin Jefferson on flag football in the Olympics and the NFL being able to

participate. To be honest, I'm at a loss for words. To think about a chance for playing in the Olympics and getting a gold medal. It's a dream. Five on five format, which each team filled in a 10-man roster comprised of the following positions. A quarterback who could only run past the line of scrimmage after handing the ball off and receiving a lateral or going out for a pass. A center who can only go out for a pass immediately after

snapping the ball. Wide receiver back who can line up as either standard running back or wide receiver, a rusher who can rush the quarterback from seven yards off the line of scrimmage. Defensive back who defensively functions as a traditional corner. Safety who prioritizes defending the pass over the run. Here are the rules, Ocho. The field is 70 yards by 25 yards.

40 minute games to 20 minute half, including a two minute warning, four downs to reach midfields and four downs to score touchdown. No plays within five yards of the end zone. Overtime score is tied, with each team getting equal chance to win. Ocho, you're a general manager, pick your 10 man squad.

Oh, my 10 man squad. Yep. Lamar and quarterback. You got Lamar. You better take Lamar because he can run and throw. Okay. Okay. Okay. Yeah. We got Lamar quarterback. Okay. Give me, give me chase. Give me Justin. Okay. Yeah, we got Lamar quarterback. Okay. Give me Chase, give me Justin. Okay. We need a running back, right? Yeah. Give me St. Corn.

What else we need? You need running back, you need two wide receivers, a quarterback, you need to rush your corner and safety calling give me stinging. Okay, give me think on one side Me Yeah, give me ps2 another side my safety Give me give me Derwin. Okay, give me Derwin. He can get back. They rearrange is hell Derwin. He can get back there. He's re-rangey as hell. We need a linebacker, huh? We need somebody in that middle, huh? You better get somebody that can rush the passer. You need

Micah, you want Miles Garrett? No, no, no. Give me Micah. He's a little bit more quick twitch. Okay. Give me Micah. Can I get Fred Warner now or not? Hold on, Joe. I think you try to you think you try to feel a whole a real damn team. No, no, no, no, I'm just I'm just saying I'm okay. You get a quarterback, a center, wide receiver back, rusher DB safety. Hold on. But now the center also can go out for a pass though. So it's not gonna be a real center.

So you want to take Tyreek? Yeah, let's add Tyreek gonna be my center. Why you laugh? Why you laughing? But also this is, let me say something real quick. Now I understand that NFL players can do it but we have we have legit playing football that actually play the game so I'm hoping they're integrated into this as well somewhat because the game obviously the game of flag football is going to be new to those that are playing the NFL and the rules are much different. It's much different. So I'm hoping those that play flag football are able to represent you know the country as well and allow to play alongside the NFL players. I'm hoping that's what it is,

is not strictly only NFL players. Yeah. Right now, their proposed roster, the 2028 Olympic team, CBS Sports say this would be the proposed roster, Ocho. Jayne Daniels at quarterback, running back, Jameer Gibbs at running back. Why receiver divide a chain, uh, running back. Why receiver Justin Jefferson, why receiver DB Jamar chase?

Why receiver DB Travis Hunter? Why receiver DB rush? Michael Parsons rush Nolan Smith, Jr. Corner, Darrell Stingley, Jr. Safety Maxwell, Hairston. I don't, you know what? That's not bad. That's not bad.

But we got to have more people out there than that though. Not on the field, I'm just saying as far as reserves. Huh? As far as reserves, we need more reserves. Well, you got a 10 man team. Two, four, six, eight, 10, that's 10. Man, that- I mean, the 10 man team that CBS picked,

I'm probably gonna pick somebody that's elusive, quick twitch, so Jayden Daniels and Lamar are gonna be my quarterbacks. I like Gibbs at running back. Hey, that's a good one. I say come on, but Gibbs is a lot. 28, I think, you know, I would go say Christian McCaffrey, but he might be a little old. Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah.

I like Gibbs. I'm thinking, who another running back? That can catch, you Gibbs. I'm thinking who another running back that can catch, you know what I'm saying? That can catch and run. Cause maybe they're gonna be running. They're gonna be throwing them the ball. I like Gibbs the best. Okay.

That's why I think they're going. It's either one or the two. Yeah. I'm talking about that can get gone. But all, but the running backs and receivers are interchangeable because they're running back or receivers so you can line them up anywhere. So I like Chase, I like Jetta, I like Tyreek,

I like A-chan. Yeah. I like Micah, I like that. You know who I... Who is a good Russian? Like Nola Smith, I like Will Anderson Jr. That's a good one. He real twitchy. Cause you got to get guys got to be able to change the direction.

Oh Joe. Yeah. The guy's starting to stop it. And plus you got to realize these players haven't played flag football in 25 years. That's why when I thought about it, I'm like, well, damn, we got players. We got people that represent that represent us that play the game. They actually play flag football. They actually play it.

So I'm, I'm still curious. I know, I know we're talking about the NFL players and how good they are in the NFL. Yes. Playing flag football. It's up entirely different. Completely and entirely different. Entirely different game. are completely and entirely different. Entirely different game.

Damn, that's a good one. When Aston Gentry makes his NFL debut for the Las Vegas Raiders this season, he might be adding a debut, debuting a new pre-snap stance in the backfield. Since high school, Gentry has stood straight up with his hands by his side in the backfield before the staff.

My stance that some have compared to Mike Myers, the infamous killer in Halloween horror movies. Chip Kelly, the Raiders offensive coordinator, wants me to adopt the different stance in the NFL. Oh, man, what do we... Ocho, you have to understand. If you put him down on a three-point stance, how is he gonna see? He already 5'8".

So how tall was he when he started playing football? Five-foot. Right, right. What'd he go see? Right. He, he, he, he, he, he, he, he. The problem is starting the first day of Raiders' recent main camp, you know, sometimes you have to, you have to go with the flow.

Jentis said, Kelly asked him if he had ever played basketball. I'm like, yeah, I played basketball, you know I can dunk and all that. He like, okay, show me how you would guard. And he's acting like he's holding the ball. You know, you don't like guys. You don't like the coach changing the stance. What are we doing? What is what is Chip Kelly doing? What are you doing? The man has had success playing the game of running back in the same stance all this time. Now all of a sudden he gets to the Raiders. You want to change the way he stands.

It has nothing to do with running the goddamn ball. Right. It's not giving away any indication, no indicators. Leave the man alone, man. What? Listen, some coaches, some coaches get a little bit side themselves. Just create, just create a narrative, just to feel just a, I'm not, not a really abuse your power. Just, just do, just be unnecessary. Change the stance for what?

It's unnecessary and it's pointless. Tell me so we both know. Cause I, if there was something that, him standing in that stance was an indicator, it's a run, it's a pass, I said, okay, he needs to switch it. But you can't tell, he's just standing there. That's it, he does the same thing every time. Run, play, pass, play, nothing changes.

And all of a sudden he gets to you, okay, we wanna change, for what? Makes no sense. I wouldn't change. I, the thing is, Oh Joe, unless it's something like you really try to change as little as possible. I mean, maybe there's some technical things you like, you know, uh, with a wire receiver, you like, Oh, cause son, don't let your elbows flare out when

you're doing the hook and stuff like that. You try to keep your elbows tight to your body. Things like that. Uh, you know, Hey, you tipping your route because you're getting your head around to you, let me know you're gonna run out and you're going to come back to something like that. But other than that, I really try to tinker with too much because I liked it enough to, to select them six overall.

So there's something that I like. I mean, and you knew that. So he's been doing that way for a very long time. He was successful doing it that way for a very long time. And here you go, wanna add your little twing to it, just to say, well, he's able to do this because this is what I told him to do. Right.

It's kind of like Michael Johnson running style. Why would I change that? People keep saying Quincy Winston, the Quincy Wilson, the young guy from Bullis running the 400. Man, bro, the dude run 4420. Change what? Right. Same thing with Abby Steiner.

Well, you know, she got that arm and all I know is he ran 21.8 and she ran sub. You know, she can run sub, you know, she can run sub 11. So all that other stuff that y'all talking and she can run sub 50 into 400 meters. I ain't changing the device. She doing something right. Yeah. So, Oh Joe Dak Prescott is 1500 yards away becoming the all time passing leader.

No, that needs 1500 yards to pass Troy Aikman. He needs 2740 to pass Tony Romo. So he's about, he should pass Tony Romo to become the all-time passing leader in cowboy history. Until, until I know he's going to get married, congratulations, Dat, but if you want to be thought of like Aitman, like Starbucks, got to get that. Ain't no way around it.

Ain't no way around it. Yeah, most definitely. Most definitely. I mean, listen, when it comes to the Cowboys, I'm not sure how How much window of opportunity they have left? I think the addition of George Pickens, you know how I feel about him Offensively, I think they're gonna be alright. When it comes to the Cowboys

It's gonna be your defense. Your defense is gonna have to show up because you're gonna be able to put up points Your defense is gonna have to show up, you know, and that all I'm gonna come down to, especially in that division, you know? Is Diggs, is Trayvon gonna be able to come back? And how soon will he come back? They brought back Dante Fowler, he followed DQ over to the Raider, excuse me, the commanders. They re-signed him.

They want to pair him with Micah. Obviously we know Micah wants that big deal. Micah's looking for 40 million. You know, I think he wants to be the highest paid or close to it. I don't know if the highest paid means as much as guaranteed money means to him. We'll see how that plays out. But how close is Trayvon from being able to go? Well, he's a year removed from that surgery because you know, he went a little bit last year, man.

I know. Yeah. So I think obviously this, this second year, two years removed from it. I, so I think obviously this second year, two years removed from it, I think he's deceased. Now he had another surgery. Didn't he have another surgery? I know. He didn't finish the season. He got hurt again?

I think so. Didn't Trevon Diggs have surgery on something? I know Overstreet is gonna be gone this year. He ain't coming back. Yeah, yeah, he's hurt. I know over street is going to be gone this year. He ain't coming back. Yeah. Yeah. He's hurt. Or they just shut Trevon down.

He coming back from an injury, Ocho I think. And it's not, I'm wondering if it's something serious. I don't think it's something serious. They see it though. Des Bryant, former cowboy great receiver tweeted, if the Cowboys go get chubbed, combine him with Blue, the Cowboys offense will be the most dangerous in the NFL. I really can't find a con if that happens.

Think about it. Blue gets to learn from a dynamic back who plays the game the right way. That's how you mold a young promising running back. That, really quick, pick your poison situation. CDO Pickens can put the ball in the end zone anywhere on the field. There are so many strategic ways

for the Cowboys offense for success. I think the defense is going to perform well, but how well we know Micah and Diggs are going to perform. I'm skeptical to see how these changes affect the defense. To sum it up, I don't think the boys are trying to win. I think they should make a few more sacrifices to compete with the new improved NFC East division. Listen, make a splash, Jerry.

Make a splash. What Dez Bryant says makes so much sense. It makes so much sense you know Jerry's not gonna do it. Signing Derrick Henry and not using money as an issue, not being able to afford a player like Derrick Henry that has succeeded continuously despite his age in Baltimore. Listen, now you have an opportunity to do it again.

Make a splash again. Help your offense out. Your identity is on offense. It's what you will be known for. You have special pieces, you know, on defense. They're going to have to do what they need to do, but be all in offensively so you can compete in the NFC East. Great note. In this episode, I'm joined by Anjali Sood, CEO of Tubi, for a conversation that's anything but ordinary.

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Listen to Good Company on the iHeart radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. How about this? Trey7. Treyvon tweeted this yesterday. My ACL rehab journey was very successful. I ended up coming back to play two months sooner than I was supposed to. Follow my journey as I give you direct insight on how I did just that. Thankful for everyone who played a role with me getting back out there. Episode 1 out now on YouTube.

But that's live. I gotta check that out. I didn't know he re-injured it. I ain't know that. Fred Warner signs a three-year, $63 million contract extension over 56 million guaranteed the deal ties Warner to the team through 2029 the rework deal also returns Warner to the top of the list of the highest paid off ball linebackers in the league at 21 million per season remember Roquon just signed that deal last year that paid him 20 million per season and Bought it him to the top now Fred is back at the top of that list you see also, they just played a, a, a Brock Purdy. He got two 65. He got 181 million guarantees.

Fred got 63 million, 56 million guaranteed. Oh Joe, you like the moves they're making? Yeah, absolutely. They took care of their three, their three center absolutely. They took care of their three centerpieces. They three centerpieces for that team. Kittles, obviously the quarterback, Rod Purdy, and then their defensive leader. Yep. And Fred Warner, who is the best middle lineback in the game.

So rightfully so at some point, you know, despite what Roe Korn Smith got, you know, you have to, you have to do right. You got to, you got to do right by Fred. has got, you know, you have to, you have to do right. You got to, you got to do right by Fred. So, I mean, hopefully they can, they can, they can stay healthy on both sides of the ball and contend again, you know, for another championship. Joe Burrow says Trey Hendrickson deserves to get paid amid Bingham's contract talks. Having previously vouched for T Higgins to get paid by the Cincinnati Bingo's,

Joe Burrow is now stepping up for Trey Hendrickson amid his contract standoff with the organization. Speaking to reporters on Tuesday, Burrow addressed Hendrickson's contract by saying he deserves to get paid based on how important he is to Cincinnati's defense. That's going to be tough. Hey, listen, I don't know. Joe's spending all of their money on Joe. Joe's spending all of their money.

Listen, Joe, Joe, Joe trying to squeeze him now. And one thing you don't want to do is you took care of Joe offensively, making sure Chase and T Higgins were taken care of. Both of them taking most of the money. I don't, I don't know the money. I don't know the cap. I don't know what we have left to actually spend, but we still need to be able to have a team to be able to pay everyone else.

All the money can be locked up on offense. Can we pay Trey? Think about how bad the defense was and you had Trey Henderson with 17 and a half sacks, 35 sacks over the last two years. So you take him out there, where you gonna get that production from, Ocho? You take him out of there?

Yeah. Hey. Can you afford him is the problem. The question is, can you afford not to? Man, Ocho, I don't know if I can afford this insurance. Can you afford to be without it? Given your history, you know, you got hypertension, you got diabetes, you got all these elements

that run in your family. So the question isn't what can you afford it, can you afford not to have it? Hey, that's the thing. You know how many games y'all lost last year Ocho? How many games did y'all give up 30 plus points and you lost? You scored 35 and you lost. You scored 38 and you lose. How many of those? So while you're saying can you afford it, can you afford not to have it? Listen I wish I knew what

the books look like. I understand the salary cap continues to go up year in year out but listen we got a 40 million dollar receiver. We got a 30 million dollar receiver quarterback What he deserves at the deepest end with two 17 season 17 half sacks I mean he he got to get what up was the what 30 he looking for 30 I mean, he got to get what? Upwards to what? 30? He looking for 30. The report saw they offered him 28, up from like 50.

I think he's supposed to make what? 15 this year? He's gonna want to be in the 30s. Ooh, that's tough. That's tough. And the thing is, Ocho, but it looked like you got a defense that's standing, or an offense that's standing in the Taj Mahal and, and your defense leaving those for friends

and family's couches. Hey, hey, I, I don't even know, I wouldn't even know what to do in this situation. I wouldn't even know. Cause you got some people that say, well hell, he had 17 sacks, but still his defense was bad. Can you imagine what it looked like if he didn't have those sacks?

Remember what he did? He single-handedly won you that game in Pittsburgh now. Y'all remember that? Yeah, he had three sacks, he did. He did. He did. And a four-spumble, the end of the game, basically. Mm-hmm.

Joe Burr is not happy by the team's schedule for the upcoming season. Playing Baltimore for the fourth straight year in prime time is an ideal. Maybe we can get one of those games in Cincinnati. Please? The Bengals have played a night game at M&T Bank Stadium each of the past three seasons. All of them have been defeats, including last year's 35-34.

Remember what y'all did. They scored 34-4. That was a good game, but. Lost. Remember what we did. The other week they scored 38 and they lost. 41-38. and they lost. 41-38.

Listen, I know Joe wanted to be home, obviously it makes sense, but hell, when you play the goddamn Ravens, you got one home game. He said, well let our game be the prime time game. Yeah, I mean, yeah, I mean, that's, I don't know, it don't make me none, nighttime, daytime, anytime. Yeah, but you played with a shield too. Didn't you play with a shield, Locho? Oh no, I need to see. I need to see it and I need you to see my eyes. I don't wear no shield, no sir. I played with a shield for one year

after I fractured my orbital. I played with a shield. But it's hard, cause you know, for wide receivers, you're not really in the down stance. There's a tight end, you down in the down stance as a tight end you down the down stance And that's where dripping on the shield Hey, I don't like that which you want a clear one. I wore clear one Yeah, I wore I wanted a dark one in the Pro Bowl

But I don't know how guys I don't know how receivers catch with that dark one especially at night wait, um AJ Brown wear dark one. Yeah, I don, AJ Brown wear a dark one? Yeah. I don't know why they do that. I mean, it's hard to get adjusted, you know, cause we not, when you play a night game, you go out there that Saturday night

to get your eyes adjusted, get your cleats and everything adjusted. And that glare, it catch it just right. Cause you know, sometimes that ball get lost up in the light. They're like, man, how you, whoa! I can see that damn ball up in the lights. Hey man, how you, whoa. I can see that ball up in the lights. That's crazy.

Burrell is also disappointed in the NFL for not giving them an international game. He says he worked really hard. He's worked really hard to grow the NFL internationally and is disappointed they haven't had one yet, but he is doing quarterbacks, correct? I think, yeah. Are you disappointed on Joe that you didn't have an international game? Cause they probably would ask you to go to be an ambassador.

I mean, that would have been cool. That would have been cool. I got my passport too. But I mean, listen, their time will come. Obviously, you know what? That long flight, you should be thankful you don't have to fly there during the season anyway. You should be thankful.

And listen, the plane. You know they get over there the day before, right? Again, why they shouldn't, why they should be happy, they don't have to take no seven, eight, nine hour flight to go across that water. Yeah. They might arrive the day of. I mean, they might,

cause it's not like it used to, cause they would go over there like that Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, they don't do that anymore with you. They probably get all the practice in before they even leave. Yeah. Do a walk through, get there. They say studies and doctors say it's best to just go over there and just go play the game.

Yeah. Look at that. That's, that's, that's, that's A, A, A, double S backwards. Oh Joe, New Orleans inmate watch. One was captured at home. The other was captured as he fell asleep at the bus stop. But what he was doing at the bus stop anyway. I was the, listen, what's the point of-

I'm leaving on the next train. I don't know when I'll be back again. But what's the point of breaking out of jail if you ain't got nowhere to go? I'ma just stay. It's still, you know, it's some best, it's some best out there right now for the- Who the last one gonna get captured, yeah?

Yeah. Ocho. Yeah. And look, I promise you, I might call, I ain't going home. Cause there's a great chance, the first place they gonna look, they gonna go look at my brother's house They gonna look at my sister's house. They gonna look at my house

So I'm getting the father. I'm getting first of all if I'm New Orleans I'm getting the father the father's away. I can't the quickest I can Wait, uh, you can't you can't get far away unless you got money. You got to get the money for the break out, you know Hey You can't get far away unless you got money. You got to get the money from someone else. Wait, you're not planning to break out, you're not talking, hey, I'm blowing this joint. Leave me 500. 500 what? $500. What the hell you gonna go with $500 in this economy?

500, I'm getting away from New Orleans. That's where I'm going. Trail way or Greyhound will get you away. You can get $30. I'm gonna be in Texas, I'm going. Trail way or Greyhound will get you away. You can get $30. I'm going to be in Texas. I'm going to be in New York. I'm going somewhere. But you're not going to catch me in New Orleans.

OK, well, you're going to get caught somewhere else. OK. And I'm trying to tell you, $500. But I'm, hey, guess what? I got a chance to see something besides New Orleans. Nah. How you going to eat? $500. Nah. How you gonna eat? $500!

Hey, go get me a Grand Slam. Dennis got them Grand Slams. I got all you can eat pancakes. I'm trying to make me a bet on who get caught last. I'm gonna get me a shave. All right, everybody got a bet on who get caught last. I'm getting a shave. All right, everybody got a homeboy that's a barber. Hey, come hook your boy up. Man, hey, where you calling me from?

Stop asking all these questions. Come cut me. Cut, you know, if I got a beard, I'm shaving the beard. If I got a mustache, I'm shaving the mustache. If I got dry, I'm cutting, I'm cleaning the beard. I got a mustache I'm shaving the mustache. If I got dry I'm cutting I'm cleaning up. Right. You know the thing about that you see somebody got broke out of jail first thing he do he going IG live with his homeboy. Yeah. They caught him they caught him quick. Quick. He deserve to get caught. Listen

man. Whatever he did, he probably had it on him when they caught him. The first time. The bus stop on your...you gonna be out there in plain sight. Hey, but they ain't got nowhere to go. Especially if your family don't want to deal with you. That's the only reason you own the bus stop. Because you know you ain't got nowhere to go.

And then, hold on, you in jail for whatever it is. Maybe murder or something like that. And then your family, they let you in. Now they can go to jail for hiding. Yeah. They told them, oh, you ain't to here. Better go back where you came from. Hey, like on the wash. You might as well want to be inside. You remember that movie with three strikes? Uh-uh, don't break that heat up in here. Yeah, no.

Nah, but Ocho, you can't get caught playing. I ain't going to be at the bus stop Okay, I think you can make it I think you can make it oh Joe I think you can make it a month or two Listen is one thing for you to say it and it say sound easy When you you get you when you plant it out in your head because you're not really in that situation true your family and they back on you You're right about that. Oh, you ain't got you ain't got no money and they back on you. You right about that, Ocho. You ain't got no money.

You right about that, Ocho. You right about that. It's easy to say, oh man, okay. What you'll do, yeah, all right. You might be right, Ocho. I might as well go ahead and take you three hearts of the car and just shut it on down. Hey, Ocho, why they break it out?

Y'all go ahead, man. Ocho, I'm bobbing the flow. Hey, I see y'all when y'all go ahead, man. I'm, I'm bobbing the flow. Hey, I see when you get, I see y'all, when y'all get back. Yeah, nobody knows the trouble I see. Yeah. I'm still trying to think about where you think you're going to find it all, just because you broke out of jail. That's a little something, Ocho. That ain't nothing.

Ocho, I can give you a good old, Ocho. That ain't nothing. Ocho! I can give you a good ol' all you can eat pancakes. I can eat about 15, 16 pancakes. Sometimes you just want some fresh pancakes and sausage. Fresh orange juice. That ain't gonna work. I'll give you some good ol' oxtail, smothered fried pork chops, something. Well, since you're in New Orleans, if you could eat seafood.

Gumbo, jambalaya, etouffée. Prawn fish. Yeah, okay. And a little beignet for dessert. Yeah, yeah, yeah, gotta go buy carrefe du mot. Yeah, you definitely want it. Let me get three with powdered sugar. Let me get two with powdered sugar and three without.

Hell no. I'll be, hey. But that's the thing, well Joe, you ain't thinking about it. No. Oh Joe. Oh shit from a 27 year old Jeffersonville, Georgia. I know what Jefferson is. Tiffany Slayton was found alive after reportedly surviving three weeks alone, injured in the California mountains, with no equipment, no food, enduring 13 brutal snowstorms, and climbing 11,000 feet.

Tiffany was found safe in a cabin near Lake Edison in the Sierra Nevada mountains in California after being missing for weeks. She came across the cabin during the blizzard and said she thought she was hallucinating that she had made it to the North Pole. Hey, hold on. This is our people? Yeah. One of us?

Yeah. At their loss? Loss. Well, normally we know, normally we know stuff like that. You hear stories like this is definitely because we don't put ourselves in those situations. No, no, no. We not really outdoorsy like that. No, no, not really. And if we are, we real careful. You know, people ask me all the time, man, you go camping? No, I grew up in a, I grew up in a log cabin. It was worse than a log cabin. I grew up in a I grew up in the log cabin it was

worse than log cabin I grew up in the woods Oh Joe how long do you think you can survive? Survive what? Out there in the wilderness by yourself Shoot man I'm trying to think you know I climbed Mount Everest right so when I think about when I climb Mount Everest. Ain't no food in Mount Everest at least out there in the wilderness you might run across some game If you can hit it and kill it maybe a rabbit a squirrel some files Can you fish? You don't like the fish you ain't got no patience, but when you get hungry huh? I can spear fish Where you get the spear from?

I'm gonna make it. I'm gonna make what you mean where I'm gonna get it from I'm gonna make it I was a Cub Scout. I was a lead Cub Scout back in 83 You heard me this man talking about all the things he gonna do and he ain't got nothing No, I'm sure no one varies to eat and not to eat You eat the blue ones the red ones the red was not good for you. It fucking be the digestive system. I was a cub scout. I used to camp.

Did you see the movie Into the Wild? I think it was the guy that he's from Georgia, Emory, and he went to Alaska and you know, he ended up eating wild and started, he ended up dying. I think that's the name of the movie. You remember that movie? You know why he died? Can I tell you why he died? He, for one, he didn up dying. I think that's the name of the movie. You remember that movie? You know why he died?

Can I tell you why he died? He, for one, he didn't have survival skills. Two, he wasn't the fucking couple. Do you think this woman had survival skills? You asked me a hypothetical. You don't have survival skills. You've been living in the ivory tower the last 15, 20 years of your life.

I'm talking about before I got the Abbey Tower. You ain't been in the woods. Cal Sarna, why you think you can't be a Cub Scout without the woods? What are you talking about? I was in the woods. Hey, matter of fact, you know what they feel in the Blair Witch Project?

Yeah. That's where I was at. That's where my Cub Scout team was at. the fact, you know what they feel in the Bledwoods project? You ever saw that movie? Yeah. That's where I was at. That's where my Cub Scout team was at. I don't know. Listen, we had to deal with coyotes, bears, raccoons, all that. I was at it for like a month with the Cub Scout team.

It was a team of us. I was the Cub Scout leader. It was a team of 25 of us. Is you by yourself? It ain't 25 of 25 of us. Is you by yourself? It ain't 25 of y'all. Is you by yourself? Now, listen, based on what I learned as a Cub Scout, I can survive on my own.

I guarantee you, you don't forget everything you don't learn. Nah, absolutely not. Can you survive on Survivor, the show? You think you can do that? But see, Survivor is about teaming up. It's about getting with the right people. It's about pairing. See, I'm looking at a situation, Survivor is about teaming up. It's about getting with the right people. It's about pairing.

See, I'm looking at a situation, Survivor, I starve your ass off the island. I catch fish, clean fish, eat fish myself. Right. I kill animal, clean animal, cook animal for myself. I ain't trying to partner with you. Oh, such and such, I'm talking about you in Stark. Nah.

If I got an issue, the one thing I do, if I got an issue with somebody, I don't recruit somebody else to have an issue with, say, don't recruit somebody else to have an issue with, say, a person. That's me and your issue is me and your issue. Mm-hmm. So that's how I look at it. So it's, it's, Survivor is like really team-oriented.

Right, right, right. It's kind of like Big Brother. You know, Big Brother is not, it's all about, you know, linking up with the right people and hoping they don't backstab you Yeah, I start yes off the island Yeah, I can survive a moment could you survive on your own? Yeah, I could Why you think you can survive on your own because the way you grew up? Yes my point exactly that's not how you grew up

Being a cub scout you growing up you were the Cub Scout a couple of weeks out of the year. I grew up in my environment for 20 years, every day of my life. I'm a survivor. Okay. I'm telling you. You listen to the Destiny Child song, survivor. That's the only thing you survive. I'm Michael Kasson, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures and your guide on Good Company, the podcast where I sit down with the boldest innovators shaping what's next.

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Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I feel, I, I, me personally, I feel very comfortable that if I had to I could survive. I can hunt, I can dig bait, I know I know how yeah yes I could. But you're not the only one do that I mean I did that too. You know what I tell you what we should do is that we should get a YouTube. You know what, I tell you what, what we should do is that we should get a YouTube. You go somewhere, I go somewhere, and we see who survives.

Oh, I'm definitely gonna survive. That's even. See, cause your stuff, your ankles will be hurting, your knees gonna be hurting, your hips gonna be hurting. I'm gonna have a belly, all that be hurting, but I have a belly full. Your stuff healthy and you starving. You think you skinned out your ass be looking like a Skeletor when you get back. How you start a fire? How you start a fire?

I can start a fire. How you gonna start a fire? Are we gonna do it with a flint? No. Rocks. Go ahead. But I'm saying you can have a flint. So let me ask you a question. So what are we taking? First Ocho, here's the thing. First of all, if you know you're going and you're going to be going to the wilderness, you're going to take certain things. No, no, no, no. We're not talking about that.

We're not talking about that. We're putting you up there with nothing and you have to survive on your own. Ocho, that's not how it works. So you think people that just go in the wilderness, they just like, you know, okay, we just going on the beach. Well, I'm not gonna take flip flops when I'm not, I'm not taking an overcoat if I'm going to the beach.

While the same token, I'm not wearing flip flops and shorts is if I'm going to the wilderness. So you take things accordingly. And see, if you take things accordingly, there's a good chance you're gonna survive because you're already prepared. That's how most people do. They find, like, you don't go to the,

you thank people that go, they don't have, they take water, Ocho. Hey, what happened when you run out of water? Wait, I'm gonna boil water. How about that? Bring it to a boil, huh? You go, how you gonna boil the water? What you mean how? So now you're gonna have a stove.

What you call it? What you call it? The mini thing you pack? Um... You know what I'm trying to say. What? The boil water. The boil water. The portable. The portable. Man, Ocho, first of all, you take necessities. You don't take anything.

I mean, like I said, you take only what you what you because at the end of the day, I'll show that it's going to get heavy. Now, now, now, now, I'm good. I'm good. I can. I can, too. I promise. I know I can. But we go a different place. No, you know how I know you can't survive in the wild by yourself? You ain't got no goddamn patience. You ain't got no patience. How you gonna survive? Why, why here's the thing. See, while you got patience, you waiting for

something to happen. I'm gonna make something happen. I'm gonna make something happen too. Okay. Okay. Okay. I got it. I got it. Hey. All right. Ocho, we will get out here on this one. This last last segment of the day is time for Q&A. So Nina said, Ocho, where are you?

Are you at a strip club? Yes. Am I who? No, I'm at work. I'm at work. No, this is not a strip club? Yes. Am I who? No, I'm at work. I'm at work. No, this is not a strip club. And for everybody in the chat, it's not a strip club. This is area 29.

It's called adult ballet. There's a difference. Yeah. This ain't this. Yes, the same thing. Instead of saying a drug dealer, you're a street pharmacist. We get that deal. No, no, no, no.

This is luxury. This ain't just for the faint of heart. Now this is, matter of fact, hold on, hold on, hold on luxury this ain't just the same for the faint of heart that this is matter of fact Hold on. Hold on Well, who just said that question? Now when y'all y'all come here come here real quick, please please please tell Nina this is a dog ballet. Hold on. Hold on Hello ladies, oh lord, have mercy. How you doing ladies?

How you doing? Welcome to Night Count. How you ladies doing tonight? We doing good. How's business? Is business booming tonight? You're off tonight. Okay. Let me ask you a question. How's the food in Area 21? The food good? Yes. So if the team were to come, what do you recommend? Wings, hibachi rice. Salmon.

What do you recommend? Wings, hibachi rice. The pasta. Salmon and rice. The salmon? Salmon and rice. Wings? Wings, how about you, Rice? The pasta. Salmon and rice? The salmon? Salmon and rice. So if you don't mind me asking, the chat wants to know, start left to right names, please. Luxury. Burger.

Chocolate. Charlotte. Charlotte. Oh, okay, okay. Are you guys natives of Houston or you moved? I'm from Memphis, Tennessee. Okay, where are you from? In the middle. I'm from where? Are you Dominican? Columbia.

Okay, okay. Columbia, Dominican and Tennessean. Okay, okay, Columbia. Dominican and Tennessean. Okay. Well, thank you for hopping on with us, ladies. Say hello to Nightcap. All right, chat. Say hello to these lovely ladies, Area 21. And if you're ever in Houston, make sure you stop by Area 21.

Daddy love us. Oh, what is it? Area 29. Damn, my bad. I got 21. I can't see. Area 29. What's it? Area 29. Damn, my bad. I got 21. I can't see. Area 29. Well, thank you, ladies. Hey, make sure you subscribe to Nightcap.

Thank you. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They say wings, the Hibachi or Sriracha rice. Right. I think somebody said something about pasta. I don't know about pasta in a. Hey listen, we got everything up there.

You know, I got the head security job up here. Yeah. So, uh, whenever you want to come back, whenever you want to come back, I mean, we'll take care of you. I think I better lay low. Nah, nah. Hey, I don't do that. Don't do that. You can't see me.

You're going to land low. Gregory go gone. Say it. Okay. See ABC FCC Thunder and Fire. That ain't happening. Quinn said Minnesota, Cream Soda, Bacon Soda. OKC and Six. Absolutely.

Devin Jett said Timberwolves might be the ugliest team in NBA playoff history. I mean you talk about the way they play or we talk about a little something. The ugly? Talk about the way they play? Talk about the way they play? I guess, I don't know. Trash Talk Tito said, oh it's your question. What one old school rule or mindset that needs to come back?

Respect. In what though? I guess he's talking about sports. that needs to come back. Respect! In what though? In sports? I guess he's talking about sports. But most of the time players do respect each other. There's only been a few courts. You can count them damn near on one hand. I'm talking about players don't respect authority, don't you? Oh, you said authority. I thought you meant each other. That's why you have turnover so much like you have in the NBA and in the NFL. Oh Okay, I see what you're saying. I see what you're saying. All cardio. Hey, okay. No show. What player didn't live up to the height

But still had a solid career And then what sport That's that's a good question. And most of the time, the one that didn't, that didn't, that didn't live up to the hype, it came from injury. On injury, a lot of players that were hyped up, you know, coming out of college. I'm trying to think who. Anybody you name, I guarantee you, injury, the real neck career. I'm trying to think of a football player that had hype.

When I think of a solid career, Ocho, I'm saying you played five, six, seven years. I ain't saying, you know, you delivered to the height and you played one or two years and you were gone. I'm trying to think. Damn. Man, all cardio. That's a good question. I can't think off the top of my head. Yeah.

Reggie Bush. Reggie. Not Reggie had a good year, a good C, a good career. But we thought Reggie was going to be Barry Sanders. Considering what he was, think about what he was at USC. Oh, what he was in college? Oh yeah. He had a very solid career. Wanda Sumo, played outstanding with to the Rams,

excuse me, not Rams, the Dolphins, Detroit, I think he had a thousand yard season with Detroit. Yeah, yeah, I like that. I like Reggie, I like that, I like Reggie Bush. I like that I like that no chill will uncle no show you guys are late-night legends question for you What player did you hate until he played on your team? Damn I hate nobody boy That's a guess a good question. I really hate

I'm trying to say who played on my team the The only guy, but I never really did play against Romo. Romo was at the 49ers. We didn't play him. We played against him once when he was at Philly. But being around him, Bill Romanowski. Romo? Oh yeah, the original Romo. But being around him and seeing how hard he worked and then seeing that, how he prepared for his craft, you have an appreciation.

I'm trying to think. The guy that I had the problem, we had the most fun with was probably Seth Jordan. Seth played at, he played at Philly, his best years were at Philly. He played a couple years at Green Bay and then he joined us. Man, he was great. I mean, I love Seth. Seth was unbelievable. Sergey said, my guy, what is your biggest what if moment in the NFL?

What if Russell had never threw that ball on the goal line against the Super Bowl and the Super Bowl against the Patriots? Yep, oh What? What if Carson Palmer never got hurt in that 2005? Playoff game against the Pittsburgh Steelers instead of losing 35. That's not probably lose 35 17 Well, we in that game. Uh, what if Jackie Smith had caught that touchdown pass from Roger Stahl back against the steel, uh, against the Steelers that year.

Let's go recently. What is the Baltimore Raven? There was no, what if there was no tuck room? That might have been the biggest, because that started the greatest dining in the interstate of history. Yeah, Joe did. What if Drew Bledsoe doesn't get hurt, Ocho?

Ooh, that's a good one. That's a good one. That's a good one. That's a good one. Snacks at halftime. Hey Uncle Nocho, I got something different. Headline, feature, skip, NAS. Okay, skip, NAS, Kendrick Lamar, Andre 3000. Okay, so it said for headline for feature skilled.

Damn. Wait, who is it again? I heard three thousand nods. Kendrick Lamar. Ooh. Ooh, wait, but that's tough. What? I'm gonna let you answer that one. Ooh, wee! And that's tough, boy.

Hey, I'm gonna let you answer that one, huh? For me? I'm gonna go three stacks, the headline. I'm gonna say it. I'm gonna go Nas for the feature. Damn, you gonna skip casual? I ain't got no choice. Hey! Three stacks from the crib and Nas man.

Come on now. Yeah, you're right. Come on, bro. Now I ain't not a three stacks and not going nowhere. And I like a Kendrick's number. I I love Kendrick would imagine dragon Love is done. Hey, nope Oh, yeah, I got one what if I never tried to man what if I never tried to blind side Ray Lewis

I just saw that in the chat. That's a good one. What if you'd have been my teammate? I would have three rings. Woulda. Top five receive all the time too. Yeah, I'm top five right now. That concludes this episode of Nightcap. Thank you guys for joining us. The Oklahoma City Thunder take a 1-0 lead over the Minnesota Timberwolves

in the Western Conference Finals thanks to a 1-14-88 victory over the Timberwolves. Shay Gilders, 31 points. Jaylen Williams had 19. Hardenstein had 12. Chet had 15. As they roll 1-14-88 over the Minnesota Timberwolves. Thank you for joining us for another episode of Nightcap.

Y'all know me. I am your favorite uncle, Shannon Sharp, my partner and co-host. Liberty City's own, bingo ring of fame honoree, Pro Bowler. Hey, he gonna get that work in. That's one thing about Ocho. He gonna get his work in. No matter where he has to be, he gonna do the work. Special shout out to Nick Van Exel for joining us tonight. The all-star, the 13-year NBA player breaking down this game tonight. Nick, appreciate that continued success. And like I said, when you get a few moments, stop back by with us.

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