Club Shay Shay - Nightcap - Hour 2: Cam Newton opens up, Tyreek’s QB list, Peyton sounds off

Episode Date: January 19, 2025

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to a recent episode of “Special Forces: Worlds Toughest Test,” a reality show on Fox, Cam Newton opened up about the struggles of being a father of eight kids. Later, Unc and Ocho discuss Miami Dolphins WR Tyreek Hill releasing his rankings of the top-10 quarterbacks this season, with one glaring omission… Patrick Mahomes, Peyton Manning saying he believes constant coaching changes are failing young QBs and much more!03:19 - Tyreek Hill releases ranking Top 10 Qbs09:37 - Peyton Manning14:36 - Derrick Henry18:10 - Cam Newton36:05 - Q and Ayyyy(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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It's on your screen. He got two of number one, Lamar Jackson two, Josh Allen three, Dak Prescott four, Jerry Gall five, Brock Purdy six, Jayla Hurts seven, Kirk Cousins eight, Jayden Daniels nine, Bo Nix 10. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Now, what we need to talk about before you say anything Tyree, when did you make this

list? Because I see Kirk Cousins on there and I'm not sure what point you made this list, but it couldn't have been just now or recently. It couldn't have been. This must have been the real fact. I disregard everything he said because he got his quarterback to one. Well, he's supposed to. You gotta put your quarterback.

Okay. Let me ask you a question. If you got the number one quarterback in NFL, you trying to get up out of there? Uh, he ain't going nowhere. But do you say that? No, no. Oh, wait a minute. So that lets you know right now his quarterback ain't number one.

Now let's, let's understand and remember his frustrations about doing cardio for three quarters and understand why he said that. And they put a camera in front of his face before he can calm down. Remember when we go to the rookie symposium, what did the first thing he tell you? If you're angry, don't go to the media,

calm yourself down, take a deep breath. But no, as soon as the game ends, camera right in his face, he's still upset. What does he say? He answers emotionally and says things he shouldn't say. Does he actually mean it at that time? Probably, but once he comes down and gets back in his right state of mind, god damn it I shouldn't have said that because that really... The mere fact that even if you... The mere fact... I'm talking about how bad... Even though when... and we're gonna talk about this, even when Trav wasn't getting targets,

you think Travis wanted to leave Patrick Mahomes? Nah. Nah, the mere fact that he got one omission on that, I don't see the guy. Now this guy in the last four years, five years, he's won three Subos, three Subo MVPs, and two MVPs, and he ain't on this list. And you mean to tell me you thought Kirk

Cousins you thought Bart Purdy you thought Dak Prescott you thought tour had a better season and he had a bad season Based on who he is and you think those guys had a better season to him Listen that and that's what I'm talking about. I guarantee you this list isn't recent. I guarantee you it's not I guarantee you it's not. I guarantee you it's not. You know? I mean, we're dying. Hey, like we pulled it up from three years ago. Right. But I'm just saying, unless this list was made to do exactly- Ocho, Bo Nix is on the list. Bo Nix just got into the league this year. Yeah. But listen, that's what I'm trying to say.

Jay Nail just got into the league this year. He made this list for this very specific reason, for us to be talking and engaging about his list, about said list. Yes. I like it. I like it. I like, listen, I like everybody.

I like everybody on there. I don't like the Kurt Cousins. I don't like the Kurt Cousins based on the way he plays. You like Dak Prescott, the guy who missed 10 games. Yeah, I like Dak. What you talking about? I'm not worried about him. I'm not talking about him missing the game. I like Dak. What you talking about? I'm not worried about him. I'm not talking about him missing the game.

I like Dak. We talk about body of work. We talk about resume. Now, I know you keep him. What body? Hey, don't, listen, don't disrespect Dak like that. Don't do that. Hold on.

He ain't got your guy. Hold on. You've been on me all year long. How about Joe Borrow? Yeah, you know, Ricky ain't no Bangles fan. He don't even watch us. He ain't no fan of nobody. He should be a fan of, he should have,

he should have a tour and Snoop should have been number two. Wait, who? The backup quarterback, Huntley. He obviously. You've been on, you need to start like Joe. He ain't got Joe on there. Because this is his own personal preference on who he feels. We can't fault a man for putting up his preference on his opinion on who his top 10 is.

Now if we talk about quarterbacks, our top 10 is going to look completely different. His list, the moment he said Tua was better than Mahomes, we should have disregarded everything when it comes to quarterback to come out of my so it's nothing boy after that, huh? Yeah Yes, because that's so egregious Also to a to a mom and dad won't say to a better than my homeboy You won't find nobody in Miami Put it like this here. If your fan base would trade your quarterback for Mahomes, Lamar Baltimore ain't trading, Josh Allen, but everybody else on this list,

I guarantee you, they would trade their quarterback for Mahomes. You think Dallas would take Mahomes over Dak? You think Atlanta would take him over Kirk Cousins? Philly would take him, would take Mahomes over Jac. You think Atlanta would take him over Kirk Cousins. Philly would take him, would take Mahomes over Jalen Hurts. San Fran would absolutely take him over Brock Purdy. Right. Detroit would absolutely take him.

Oh, I got, I got one for you. Who? Will the commanders take him over Jaden Danes? Yeah, go ahead and think about that one now. Yeah. What? Daniels. Yeah. Go ahead. Think about that one. Yeah. What? I would.

Yeah. Hell yeah. The only, the only two, well, only one Lamar because now, because here's the thing you would have to run the office. See the thing is Josh, uh, that that's a drop back. Jericho drop back. Right. Jalen Hirshberg, he runs a very similar West coast style system. Yeah.

To what they run in San Francisco. To what they run in Atlanta. So there ain't going to be a whole lot, ain't gonna be a whole lot of drop off. Can you imagine my homeboy with Saquon behind him and AJ and Devante? You remember when he had Tyreek and Sammy Watkins, right? Oh yeah. Okay. They were eating.

They were eating. Okay. Okay. Can you imagine if he had Jalen Waddle, Tyreek Hill, John New Smith and H.A.N.? That's nasty. Smith and A-chan. That's nasty. Yeah. Uh, I don't see no Mahomes.

I don't see no Joe Burrow and you got some guys up there. We wish you well. Oh Joe. Peyton Manning says he believes the teams fail young quarterbacks by constantly changing coaches and system. Yeah. It bothers me that Bryce Young is on his third play, call it in two seasons. If you draft a guy commit to a system, learning an office is like learning a new language.

It's not fair. I agree. Yeah. Well, most definitely. But listen, you got to understand the owners are impatient. Yes. Extremely impatient because they're thinking every time we get a player, first round pick, we have to miraculously win right away all of a sudden.

And that's not the way it works. You can't. You can't. It's CJ Stroud messing up though. Yeah. Cause you see guys, you see what happened on show. Yeah. So everybody thinks that that's.

It's supposed to happen like that. But that's few and far between. And the pain didn't go. Elway didn't make it as rookie. They're like, you go back and look at some of the greats and see their rookie season did not make the playoffs and they did not look good. Everybody's not gonna look like a Jane Daniels.

Everybody's not gonna look like a CJ Stroud or an Andrew Luck or an RG3. And then, you know, Baker played really well this spring or Justin Herbert threw 30 plus touchdowns. Every rookie is not gonna look like that. We've gotta stop thinking, Ocho, that everybody that comes out is ready-made. Sometimes it's like a kid's toy.

Some assembly is required. Everybody just wanna open the package and just get the toy and just go, just get it in there. Yeah. It don't work like that. Oh, damn. And sometimes we are spoiled by quarterback play that is extravagant in their rookie. Yes. TJ Shroud.

Yeah. Turned the franchise around one season. Jake Daniels turned the franchise around at the 33 abysmal years in one season. Yes. Older backs like that come around every so often. Yes. And then also the other pieces to the puzzle got to be there too. It already had a solid foundation. All you needed was that centerpiece

to smooth out the concrete. That's why it looks the way it does. Yes, but see, here's the thing. When you come from the business world, Ocho, you can change a CEO and he might have an idea that like, boom, oh, okay, you know what? Ocho, you know what? Instead of the iPod, what if I do earbuds?

What if I do a tablet? What if I do iPad? So I can do things, I can have a create, but as a quarterback, you keep changing the play callers, he's learning an entirely different system. Every off season. How do you expect that man? Look at it.

Look at the continuity. Even, even when Brady was losing coordinators, they was running the exact same place. That was the same offense. That was the same offense. Brent farm lost coordinators. That was the same offense. That farm lost coordinators. That was the same offense. That was the same. You got to have continuity. He needs to hear that.

It might be a different voice, but he needs that verbiage to be the same. Yeah. You can put your spin on it, but that was Charlie Weiss offense that Bill O'Brien and Josh McDaniels and then Josh McDaniels came and ran and then for some reason Coach Belichick put two slappers in there that didn't know anything about offensive football and it messed it up. But Peyton is absolutely right. But the biggest mistake is that you judge, hey man you see how you see how his old lady treat him hmm well I ain't got his old lady right I got you

so I need to try to make this work with you right and I can't judge my relationship of what they doing over there I don't know what he doing mm-hmm he might be breaking on him though with that Louisville slugger. Hey, you know, I said, Oh, you got a number two Pelsa. And so you can't do the damage that he do it. I'm just saying, I agree with Payne 1000%. Um, uh, you know, kind of had a conversation with him about that is that the, the, everybody is so quick because they want instantaneous results, instant gratification. And it doesn't work. It's the lottery. Oh, Joe, oh, Joe, damn, get them, go to work.

Let me go buy this lottery ticket and hit it and hope. Yeah. It don't work like that. That lottery microwave society, put everything in a microwave with a cook it in two minutes. Yeah. microwave society. Put everything in the microwave with a cook it in two minutes. Yeah. And if you do, if you do any time you have instant gratification is always short lived. Always short lived.

You're right. Derek Henry says he doesn't want to be called anything but Lightning McQueen. Lightning McQueen. Let's take a listen. Let's take a listen to what D Henry had to say. I don't want to be called anything else but McQueen. So's take a listen. Let's take a listen to what D Henry had to say. I don't want to be calling anybody else but McQueen, so don't call me Derek, just call me McQueen. It was still funny. I didn't think it, that would be a different character,

but you know, that was a girl. I told him he needed a community with these job plans, but I definitely got a kick in the back of the neck. You telling me I should watch more movies or? Say again? You telling me I should watch more movies other than Pixar or? No, I just I just made sure

So were you serious? I was very serious. Okay, well McQueen it is but It was funny. I don't know you're talking to you said and I'd be too old to watch movies But I'm sure everybody knows about it to child and they raised him like boom Hey, well if you listen Derek Henry has earned the right to be called whatever the hell you want to want to be called You want to be lightning McQueen? I'm calling him Lightning McQueen from now on, especially when we talk about the Ravens game tomorrow. Lightning McQueen it is. I don't know where that come from.

Where that come from? That's from a movie or something? Cars. You remember the movie Cars? Oh, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. Old Mater? Yeah. Hey, I got you.

I got you. Old Mater. Mater was my guy. I like Old Mater. God Hey, I got you. I got old mater mater with my guy. I like old mater goddamn Toe mater Bad to be a you know, I used to be a light man I'm gonna be with a they probably think I'm a pervert cuz I go to I go to and I'll be in there by myself Oh Joe, it'd be I'm a pervert, because I go to, I go to, I be in there by myself, Ocho.

It be parents with a theater full of kids. I'm the only big grown ass man in there by itself with not one kid. And that's me anytime the memes comes out. Anytime a meme will be come out, I'm in there with all the kids. Yeah, I'll be looking at me like, what is this big grown ass man doing in a kids movie?

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That's sure to cause a ruckus. Listen to NHL Unscripted with Burke and Demers and the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In a recent episode of Special Forces, World's Toughest Test and reality show on Fox, Cam Newton opened up about his struggles of being a father of eight kids saying, I'm going into a different phase of my life that's going to require a different form of myself.

Being in the NFL, everyone knows there's a large sum of money that comes to you in a short span of time. And being away from the game for three years, those checks don't come in the same. Like I got eight kids. It hurts me knowing that I can't provide like I once did. It hurts me. It hurts thinking that I'm Superman, but in reality, I'm just a man.

I like that. I like that. But also I think people are taking a little bit out of context. Cam is saying I can't provide the way I once used to when the money was coming in. Cam Newton is still able to provide for his kids, huh? He's able to provide in the way he wants or sees fit based on when he was playing the game of football. He should be able to though.

You should be able to, but if people and obviously out there, if you understand Cam, Cam is a businessman. Damn. Cam is a businessman. Can't man, you know, I know cam personally, I know what cam has going on off the field. Yes. I'm a business standpoint. So he is able to provide. He just can't provide the way he liked based on the kind of money he was making back then.

And that's that, that, that, that, that's okay. That's okay. That's the money when the money, when the money does stop coming in like that Things have to you know, you got discipline you got you got to dumb it down a little bit and then instruction a certain way So it can last you got to remember this 18 years. Well, let me ask you a question 18 years So when you have eight kids, what's the likelihood that you if you have eight kids? What's the likelihood that you're gonna be have eight kids, what's the likelihood that you're going to be in the NFL until all of them reach adulthood?

Well, it's not likely at all. It's not likely at all. So you factor, you got to factor that in, right? You have to, when you play the game, you and I played, and so you and I both speaking from experience. When you factor, when you play and you like, okay, if I'm in year five, I'm in year six, the average NFL careers is, is, is 3.2 years. So if I'm in, I've already, I've already beat the average. Yeah.

Let's just say I have an outstanding career. An outstanding career is 10 years. Well, if you still have a kid, you have a kid year 10, you not gonna be in the NFL when that kid turns 18. Not at all. I think sometimes, sometimes, and let me speak for me. I don't wanna speak for anybody else. I'm gonna speak for me. I think sometimes the problem that we run into me as that I was so focused on football

that I neglected. I miss recitals. Come on now. I miss PT, I pass teacher conferences. I miss football and soccer. So what I tried to do on the back end is try to buy things. Try to make up for it. To make up for it. To make up for it.

You can't. And when it came, when I realized, I can't make up for time. Not with money. It's the one currency that, it's the one currency. Can't get back. That you can't buy. It's the most valuable currency.

I stopped. Had a conversation with my kids, So this is where we are. I say y'all 12, 13, 14 years of age now. I can't get back what I lost. At that time, 12, 13, they still didn't understand. Right. It wasn't until they got to college that individually came in like that. I appreciate it. I appreciate it.

He said, yeah, sometimes I wish you was there, but there was never a doubt that you loved us. You made sure we had the best of everything. I said, that was the way that I could show you that I love you. I say, because I grew up in a situation, my grandfather, grandmother, they never told me I knew they loved me. Because what they said, you got a roof over your head, you got food in your stomach, just like fences, everything Denzel was telling his son in that movie. That's what my grandfather and grandmother's. So I knew they loved me.

And so I think sometimes you try to get back what is lost through gifts, through presents, through money. You can't do that. So now I just try to spend as much time as with them as I can. I can't get back what I lost. They know why I did what I did now. They get an opportunity to see the sacrifices that it takes to be a parent. And I've always tried to be there like, and like when they have, when they had questions, be a boy, obviously my daughter, my oldest daughter, she would talk, she was more open and we'd talk about things like that. My son a little bit, he kind of a little bit more like me, a little bit more private.

They're all private, but, uh, they, they would open up and the best thing that I could do is that I could give them a point of view, especially the girls, from a male's point of view, from an athlete, somebody that got money and try to help them to the game. Well daddy, he said this. I said, but let me ask you a question. He said this, but what did he do? Okay, he did this, but what did he tell you?

Cause if he tell you he's gonna do it and he did it, how you be mad at it? And so look, and I get what you're saying, cause I'm looking at cam and I know people are going to say, well, Cam, you shouldn't have had all those kids stop having kids out of wedlock. You just had a, I think it was six months old or seven months old. I look, I understand. I understand what everybody, every person's going to say about cam.

And for me, remember I told you this conversation I had with my guy Marvin Dimmock in 29 years, he's been my agent. And when I got with him, I said, he's like, so obviously you want me to do your contract, but what else? I said, when I'm done, I want the exact same standard of living. See? He said, okay. So the child support didn't crease the private school.

I didn't did what no situation that had to pull the kids out of private school. My, I had the same house. I was still able to get the same cars, but. I have nobody on payroll. I had cars. I didn't have no three, a house over here. I wasn't taking my homeboys. We, Hey, we going to the Cancun or Tulum and I got no, it wasn't no bottle service.

Yeah. And you know, Hey, all the ones that was, you know, that was going to college. I say, y'all got to, got to get student loans now. Yeah. See, you know, it's funny. You see how you, you know what's funny? You see what you just said? That discipline and that structure I had. Oh, you gotta have it.

Early, but I had it early. I didn't have someone to come and talk to me and say, I understood what I was trying to do. The kids that I did have, me and Cam, shit, we in the same boat. Matter of fact, we in the same boat. And plus add those that I've added on based on your situation.

Yes. Yeah. Like, and, but I was so good financially and understood what I wanted to do. I never played the game of football and thought financially in the now. I was thinking long-term already off the rip, off jump. How you a rookie, you coming in the league as a youngster and your first year, your first two years, your thought is already out the gate, get millions of dollars.

Hell, what the hell I'm buying a place for when everything I need is right here in the stadium. What am I going to get a place for? Why waste the money? So you already knew what my mindset was in Juneau when it came to spending money off RIP, coming in league. So as time went on and I started making more and more, I'm nest egging and I'm hoarding everything.

And when I did decide to spend money, it had nothing to do with what was coming in on the field. It's everything off the field. So now I ain't played the game of football in 10, 12 years, it feel like, and I'm still living the same exact lifestyle that I was way back then. And matter of fact, that's also a testament to the individuals I had kids from. You know, they ain't trying to, you know, be out here in image and, you know, looking nice and design of that.

And how many, how many kids you have under the age of 18? Three. Everybody grown now. Everybody grown now. I got Cha-Cha, Kennedy, Cha-Cha Kennedy and French fry. That's, that's the last, that's, that's, Kennedy, Cha Cha Kennedy and french fry. That's the last, that's the last, that's it. Once they had the dough, everybody grown. Everybody grown.

I never struggled, hey look, I never struggled once I left NFL, you know why, Ocho? Cause you were cheap like me. No, because football was what I did. It wasn't who I was. I never lost who I was. I understood. Come on, man.

That football was a part of my life. It wasn't my life. Was I dedicated to it? Absolutely. But it wasn't your identity? No, no, no. I was a small kid from Rue South, Georgia. I was a small kid from rural South Georgia. I was made Porter's grandson. I was Sterling and Cheryl Sharpe, the brother.

I'm the youngest of three, a very disciplined, determined and dedicated young man. I knew what I wanted from a very young age. I wanted my kids to not have to worry about things that I had to worry about as a kid. I didn't want them to spend one day in a life that I had to spend 20 years in. They weren't equipped like that. So how do I make that happen? I had a singular focus, a singular focus because I knew once it was over, it was going to be over, Ocho.

That's why I never like, man, man, I wish I could have gotten me. No, I gave it everything I had. 14 years, I got, look here, Ocho, I had, I squeezed all the orange, got juice, I ate the inside and then I took the pill and got zest. I got everything out of that orange. And when I was done, got my shoulder pads, do a, uh, I remember, uh, Doug West and chips. Hey, 84, you want your shoulder pads? Put them in a box, put my helmet, put my shoes, clean out my locker.

You know what? I need to make sure before they send it to me, they get rid of all those magazines, those pictures that I got in my locker where you don't have, you know, they sent me a little song, so I didn't get rid of those. I don't want them coming to the houses and somebody find those. But I had to get up and get on my boat though. But that's the biggest thing. I think sometimes, a lot of times, Ocho, people, people's identity is tied to the sport that they play. And they get lost with, who am I without it?

Who am I? What am I? That's the bad part. And we wonder why the percentage of us that go broke, two years removed from the game, whatever game is we play, we go broke because of that identity, that image we try to portray, not only while we're playing, but once we stop playing,

when the checks stop rolling in. Yeah. When the checks stop rolling in. You keep spending, and you ain't got that kind of money coming in. Oh, no. It ain't. It's impossible.

It's impossible to keep up with that lifestyle. Impossible. Yes. Imagine, it was the time, you know, just for context with people at home, and I could tell you now, it don't matter now. It was the time, every goddamn Monday, I'm making 350,000 a week.

Can you imagine making 350,000 a week? Next month's idea? Man, shh. Man, I'm looking at dudes now, you know? They living their life. I can imagine what them chicks look like. You making $350 every month. Imagine what they got $60 million.

What that chick look like? Looking like today. But this is the problem, in today's game, they're paying the young bulls much more money, right? But the young bulls today, they feeling like well, damn, I'm making this much money, but it's just going out and then I pay an attention. The more you get, people say, well, you know, if you give me more money, then I'd be all right.

But if you ain't got no financial discipline, it don't matter what they give you, you still going, you're going to overspend and when you going to look up, man, it don't mean they don't be nothing left. You got to think about people in the chat. You could just think about this. Think about wherever you from. Think about people that you know personally, that could be in the streets or could be business,

that had money at one time, at one point. I'm talking about it was worth a lot. It was on top of the world. What are you at now? You got many stories, you ain't got to say no name. You can just think about the stories. Yeah. You know I've been the whole time, I had homeboys call hit me up that I played with.

Can you let me hold five? Can you let me hold ten? Man, what's that? And they made way more money than I did, Ocho. Man, what's that gonna do for you though? That ain't nothing. Me giving you five grand, me giving you ten grand ain't gonna do nothing because you're gonna be right back in the same position again anyway.

Guess what? See what you said? What'd you say? Give. I don't lend money anymore. I'll only give money back I know that I'm not gonna give back. I know you're not gonna give it back. Because why the hell you come to me in the first place, right? Yeah, cuz I hate what I was in the league. Oh, hey man, let your boy hold 2500 I say man if you a go to the bank, they like man the bank don't want they is back I don't want my phone for money back. You mean the bank won't there

So, you know what I stopped doing don't you I say, you know what hey Here's your one time withdrawal. Right, and that's it. One time, huh? That's it. That's your one time withdrawal. Well, shoot, since we on the topic of money, man, I can go ahead and keep that 5,200.

Oh, yeah. Oh, no, oh, no. I don't know who told you that. Oh, no. Hey, my money drawing interest in your pocket. That's fine. See, I can put the- told you that. Oh no. And my money drawing interest in your pocket. That's fine. See, I can put that. That's fine.

I can put that. I can take that little, I can take that little 50 to 100, put it in a CD. Yeah. Cause right now the CD is really good. Now the interest rates about to come down. Yeah, they finna come down now.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But see, no, no, no, no, I need that. Okay. I can put that thing in a little money market, pay me a little 4%, 5%. Right. I mean, it ain't much. Oh, it's some.

It's some. But listen, how much interest is going to be when I pay you on February 6? It's $5,200 right now. I'm charging you $1.35 a day. Damn, $1.35 a day. Damn, $1.35? Yeah.

$1.35? Where did $35 come from? $1.35, that's my interest rate. 5%, hey, 5%, hey, 5% on 50-200. All right. That's two, that's, that's uh, you know what old Joe says is you set a five cent a day. I'm trying to set a five cent a day. No. Because five percent on fifty two hundred dollars. Right. Uh, and that was ten percent, that would be five hundred and twenty dollars. Yeah. So that'd be two sixty for half, five percent. So two sixty, yeah, set a five cent. Okay, okay. How about, you know what, I owe you fifty two hundred, how about I just give you six thousand. Man, if we I said, okay, okay. How about you know what? I owe you 50-20

I have I just give you six thousand man for we gonna start we gonna start the show like that and the We gonna start the show with me paying you sick I'm gonna give you six thousand I'm gonna give you six thousand flat to start the show just to show the people I paid you money. I Sure appreciate that man. I'm sure I look, I'm sure happy with that. I'm only able to pay you by the grace of God, you know? Yeah. Yeah, I'm able to pay you by the grace of God. I got 50, 11 jobs and I'm in a good space right now.

I'm in a good space and I'm feeling good. Well, I was gonna have them deduct like 60 from your money Hey Hey, but yeah, that's the thing though. Oh, I just wish you got these guys now. Oh, Joe, with what they know now and the money that you can invest and the return that you can get. Yeah. Yeah. But, but also get some, get somebody, you know, get somebody that's trustworthy.

Hey, I, I, I ain't invested with no homeboy. I don't do that. I ain't got no file. Hey Cuz you know a lot of times. Hey man invest. I ain't invested in no club. No No, bro. No, I need to go I need a Cuz you know everybody got an idea what to do with your money. Oh yeah, always. But if I had your money. Yeah. It's never there. Watch how I flip it. And listen, they never have proof of flipping they own

and it being successful. Yeah. But want to use mine. It ain't happening. All right guys, now it's time for our final segment of the evening. It's time for Q and A. Damn, I enjoyed this tonight.

But this is a good one. Let me use the back. Nick Marr said, Jayden Daniels going to be a problem in the this is a good one. I mean, it's about. But. Nick Marr said, Jaden Daniels going to be a problem in the league for a long time. Unk, I'm so disappointed in you talking safety the other day and never mentioned Atwater. Dude was a beast.

Ocho, will you sign my jersey during the meet and greet in NOLA? Atwater was a different type of a safety. Atwater was more like of an in the box safety. Water was great. A teammate of mine from 90 to 98, he left after that one season, 99 he went to the Jets, but he's been back.

He worked for the Broncos now. So me and Water, we have a great relationship. I was talking, look, there are a lot of safeties that I didn't mention that I have the utmost respect for, but we were talking about the greatest safeties. And I feel for me, Ed Reed is the greatest safety that I saw, watch don't take. Now, mind you, I played in the era,

had Ronnie Lottie's safety, Rodney Harrison, David Fulcher, you remember Adwater, Brian Dawkins, John Lynch. I mean, I probably get some, some Troy and Pala Malu. Yeah. I mean, I could play to get some great safety. But it was, it, listen, Ed and Troy were different. Yeah.

I don't think people don't understand. Ed and Troy were different. Ed, I mean, Ed, obviously he didn't play in the box. Troy played a little bit more around the box. Yeah. Around the line of scrimmage. Special. God damn.

Ed Reed is the only safety I've ever seen. Most of the time, you know, when the ball hikes, you backpedal. Yeah. I'd have seen Ed look like he playing punt return to safety and come forward at the snap of the ball, cause he know what's coming because of film study, jumping thrusters and being anticipating what's, man, film study, jumping thronges and being anticipating what's, man, I ain't never seen nothing like that. He's the only state that I've seen completely turn his back.

I mean, he would literally face, he'd be facing the other way, hit him back to the quarterback and be where he's supposed to be. He's supposed to be. Yeah. He was, he was sensational. Florida man, Jayden Daniels is not tied with Dak Prescott in career playoff wins. I ain't got nothing. I don't even know why they ain't got nothing to do with me, but we know.

Cause that's where the quarterback makes his money. All the great to be the regular season, but when the money needed, Hey, when we shove all them chips to the middle season. But when the money needed, hey, when we shove all them chips to the middle of the table. Yes sir. And a single elimination. That's where it matters most, huh?

That's where it matters the most. Yes sir. Hello, three, two, one, six, five, four. This is the beginning of Dan Campbell's getting treated like Serenana era, losing both coordinators is gonna hurt, excuse me, Eagles versus Commanders, it's gonna be nuts.

Yeah, he's probably gonna lose both of them. Hopefully he got good quality people on staff because they have a good team. You have a good team, but you're gonna only get so many cracks at this. You gotta cash it in sooner or later. And that window's short. Yeah. You have a good team, but you're going to only get so many cracks at this. You got to cash it in sooner or later. That window's short. Yeah. When opportunity presents itself, his quarterback, they didn't play well tonight. If you get beat and you play your best football little show, you're like, you know what?

They just outplayed us today. What's painful is when you don't play your best, it's obvious you didn't play your best and you get it handed to you. Yeah. By a team that everybody thought you were gonna be. Yes. You turn it over, you bring them up to your level.

Ken Williams said, do you think Armand Ross needs the media You turn it over, you bring them up to your level. Ken Williams said, do you think Armand Ross needs the media to tell him that Naomi Brown stats this game gave him, gave them bulletin board material and got humble. Me, so let me ask you a question. If Armand Ross St. Brown didn't say anything, would they have played this game on Saturday? Yeah, that's why I tell them all the time.

It doesn't matter if I say a little or say a lot, I'll say a lot, we still got to kick it off. Yeah. Armand Ross St. Brown played good. He played, had a great game. What'd he have, 137, 140? Yeah. What did he end up having, Oja?

Let me see. I think he had a hell of a game. Yeah. But when your quarterback turns it over like that, you gonna lose. I don't give a damn, he could have had 300 yards. You turn the ball over like that, you gonna lose. Every time. Let's see what,

Carmen Ra. every time. Let's see what, I'm in raw. He had eight for a buck 37, had 10 targets. Gibbs had 14 rushes for 105 yards. Think about it, you have 23 rushes for 201. Quarterback plays through for 313. So you had a little 500 yards of total offense, don't you? But you had four turnovers. And lost because of the turnovers.

That's the equalizer. You play double for those. That first half, man, God, I'm still thinking about that first half. Boy, that was some beautiful football, man. That was an offensive master class from both sides of the ball. Wow, what'd it come here? 70-plus plays. Elijah Moses, hey, unknocho, with JD Bodenick, CJ having an exceptional rookie season. What do you think expectations for quarterbacks

that sell in early in the season gonna look like in the near future? That's the problem. You can't base somebody else, you know, that's like, you know, hey, somebody getting a job right out of college. And then you look at something, you don't get one, and you look at yours like it's a failure.

You can't look at it like that. Some people are gonna have success earlier. There are a lot of guys that when I got into the league they had Success or chill earlier you got to leave guys that man came out in your draft had success earlier damn, we all develop at Sometimes some of us are Fast developers and some of us it takes a little bit more time Everybody just won't this thing so instant now

May you see what he did? Okay It puts a lot of pressure cuz everybody everybody won't like man you saw what CJ did You saw what Jane Daniels did right man Bo nicks three Nicks, three quarterbacks in the first, you know, got their team in the playoffs. So now everybody's going to think that's that bro. It's not easy making the playoffs. It's even harder winning games in the playoffs because all the focus is on you. They've broken you down.

They know pretty much what you're gonna do, how you're gonna do it from down in distance to area on the field to formation. Got a whole lot of film to go off of. Yes. And those coaches are scouring. They spend 80, 100 plus hours breaking it down. But yeah, it puts a lot of expectations on, you know, it's just like anything.

Oh Joe, you have a girlfriend, they have a boyfriend expectation. Well, he treated me like this. Well, she did this. You probably should have stayed with her. Yeah. You probably should have stayed with him. Cause I'm me. Yeah.

One thing about it, you know, you know what they say now. Starting pre certain people, depending on who who you with bring a different side of you out. Yeah yeah you right you right Ocho you ain't wrong now. Come on bring good. Some of them said. He said, what? Now you braided bad on me. I gotta let you go. Hey. I gotta let you go.

It ain't been so many times I can argue. It ain't been so many times, you know, you come in and talk about this and that. This is that, you know, any words. Not at this stage. Not at this stage of my life. No. You know, when I was a little bit, in my 20s, I was a little bit more toxic. You know, toxic. You could waste a little in my 20s I was a little bit more toxic, you know, toxic.

You could waste a little time then. You could waste a little time. Yeah, I ain't got that many summers. I ain't got that many summers, I haven't hold you. Hold on, I'm finna use that word. I gotta use it in my next argument. I ain't got that many summers, so I haven't. Gene Michael. I ain't got that many summers, son. I ain't been to... Gene Michael.

I ain't got that many summers to be with you. Okay, bet. I like that. With golf performance tonight, do you think this will create doubt within the Lions team that he's the right quarterback that could lead them to the Super Bowl? No? Had a bad game. He picked the wrong time to have a bad game.

He had a bad game. Yeah. I mean, the guy's going to the Pro Bowl. I mean, he had a phenomenal game. He picked the wrong time to have a bad game. He had a bad game. Yeah. I mean, the guy's going to the pro, I mean, he had a phenomenal year. Phenomenal. But see, that's why we love football so much. Because we throw everything you've done out the window.

What you did the entire day of the season, ain't got no impact on the game right now. At all. What you gonna do tonight? What you gonna do today? What you did doesn't impact today or tonight today or tonight impacts today and tonight So no, I don't think it creates any doubt Flippin said what's up? I've been on show. What you guys think about Chris Boyd pushing Frank Ross

What you guys think about Chris Boyd pushing Frank Ross? Passion or disrespect. Let's go. Let's go block Yeah, he was crashing. Oh Joe. I'm trying to figure out oh Joe what he mad about you took your helmet off I'm trying to I'm like, hold on. What's he mad about? Can you have a way you maybe you know, what was he mad? What was he upset about coach says son? I'm sure he said look Let's not do anything dumb. Let's not give him any cheap Let no tree is that what you really want to do? That's why you want to start the game on the road Giving up a 15 yard penalty after a 50 plus yard run back. Yeah

Yeah, so I'm trying to figure out I'm trying to figure out like I think what are you mad at him for right? I think what he was hiding about about a, making the tackle for one and making a fumble, the fumble happening. I want to get him to realize they didn't get the ball though. Yes. You know, and he was so high and he runs to the sideline and out of, you know, that's emotion, you know, him and his coach. Oh Joe, but he took his helmet off.

Oh yeah. Emotion. Emotion, making a play, just started the game. He hyped. Special team player. I'm not sure if he sees the field often, you know, but obviously making a play, starting the game. He hype, special team player. I'm not sure if he sees the field often, you know, but obviously making a play like that, a game of that magnitude, got to look beside him.

Keep your emotions in check. Yes, sir. Cause they get you beat. Yeah. Cause I'm sure you said, let's not make it a one play where the officials get the judge can swing it one way or another. The other. Yes, sir. Dave Smith said everyone knows when in doubt 15 is going to 87 when they need to play a Z.

Let Kelsey get wide open. I don't think he let I mean, it was a great play. Yeah, it was a great play for the big play, kickstarted their offense and a touchdown to seal the game. Mahomes was out there flopping like in the NBA, a gift credit for the win. But come on man, those two rough in the passer calls on Mahomes was ridiculous. They say the NBA man were flopping. Told you flopping, especially that one, especially that one not really under the chin,

right here on the chest plate. And he slipped a little bit. That flag came out so fast. When in doubt. Boo. Repaid says, if the chief died as detainee because the contra, uh, because of controversial cause, many people believe is fixed like the WWE, I personally disagree.

No, let them three feet. Ain't nobody, ain't nobody gonna remember this. Y'all do. I mean, how many, I mean, a lot of people don't remember when you go back and look, they don't realize think about how the PQ started. That was a fumble. Yeah. I mean, how many, I mean, a lot of people don't remember when you go back and look, they don't realize think about how the Pakeus started. That was a fumble. Yeah. Oh, the Oakland game, the snow game.

Yes. Yeah. That was a bubble to tuck rule. It was so egregious. They took the play out. Yep. Who knows what would have happened? That was the start of a dynasty. Who knows what would have happened? That was the start of a dynasty.

Who knows what would have happened? Had that not had that play had the Raiders got that ball. We'll never know. News 864. I know Jerry Jones looking dumb right now. Dan Quinn was in the building last year. They let it walk. Now he's going to the NFC Championship game.

Something Jerry hasn't done since the 95 season. 96. So here we are with your 29 years. Later. Yes. That was the only reason Dan Quinn didn't take a yard job the previous year. Because he thought he was gonna get the job.

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And, uh, you know, once they make it, they want to make sure they attain that image that they have to portray of having money. And ain't nobody, ain't nobody dumbing down their lifestyle the way I have or the way I did, you know, when I was playing the way I do now, you know, they did, they just would, they just wouldn't. No. Impossible. And I, I, I see it all the time.

I was able to do it during that time when I was playing because I found a way where I can make my name just as valuable as anything I could purchase I'm not saying you get what I'll show after you got your job. After you got your house. You understand what I'm saying? Let's just say, yes, I do. My name was just as valuable. I'm still Ocho whether I'm in a Prius or I'm in a Rolls. I could have wore a goddamn trash bag.

Oh shit, they go Ocho. It didn't matter. I didn't need the surgery. I didn't need the change. I didn't need the car. It was nice to have. Just the fact that knowing I can go get it That was all I need. My name was just as big or bigger than anything I could purchase. So there was no point

Oh Joe, you get $30 million. You making $30 million a year Like okay, I'm gonna go get my mom and dad a house so forth So whatever the case may be nice little nice little house give a look for 350 400 thousand dollar home Something they can maintain they don't need no two three million dollar creel, right? Okay Let's just say you know what man. I always wanted me a nice watch Okay, you want to spend a couple hundred thousand dollars for a wife take off. Yeah, I Get me two three cars. Oh Joe at that point in time. How many cars do it? Do I need to do I need a block of 10 cars, Ocho? Do I need to get, if I get a Ferrari, I don't need a Lambo.

If I get a Rolls, I don't need a Bentley. Right. If I get a Lambo truck, I don't need a Cullinan. You see what I'm saying, Ocho? Yes, sir. Do I really do do I really need do I really need a 15 million dollar career about you? Oh, I don't do I need do I need to get a prop? No, you don't need a private jet If you want to fly private get time check get time shares. Mm-hmm me personally a Unless that's an absolute absolutely positively got to get there be there. Oh Friendly skies I look love, hey, Delta, we love to fly these shows. I love it.

Bro, that's all I'm saying, Ocho. I ain't saying don't get some nice things. You want some nice things. Your hard work reward you. Reward yourself for the hard work. But at what point in time do I need to get like I didn't have 10 calls I don't I

Don't and that's that's that's the mistake of you know, some of us make you don't need we don't need a Lambo truck a Cullinan truck a lamb a Ferrari a Lambo a Bentley a G-Wagon. Do we really need all that Ocho? We don't. You never do. But you know when you're young? You do.

You wanna live like the rappers, even though you make 10 times more than the rappers and you see them with all the chains and in the cars and oh Only if you understand. Oh IG. Sometimes IG have me question myself. Like damn I be calling my people Hey, y'all ain't paying me enough. Hey Don't fuck how they got all I'm like how every rapper fly private. No, don't don't fall for that. I Know they not cuz I see a lot of't fall for that. I know they not, because I see a lot of rappers on my flight.

I do, I'm talking about big name ones. And a lot of these ones that ain't got no big name, they probably, I'm like, well, he... Okay, ain't none of my business. Stephen Holmes said, hello from Buffalo. Josh Yalla earns less than top quarterback salary. Josh is about to get a contract extension that's going to pay him probably $290, maybe $300 million.

Josh Allen is about to get $61, $62 million a year. Will this postseason impact his chance at top pay or has he already proven he deserves it? Proving it. Been to playoffs every year. There are a lot of guys that don't make the playoffs every year. Like he has. He's definitely one of the top quarterbacks. Yep.

He's going to, he's going to, he's going to get top money. He's going, he's about to be the highest paid. Yeah, most definitely. And, and, and I ain't got no problem with that. And guess what? Uh, guess who's going to come right behind the next year? My homes. And Lamar.

Again? Yeah. Next year Lamar be the third year of that contract damn has been going to be three years already after next year to be three years yeah two MVPs three three three yeah since he signed that contract he would have what is second oh yeah they go but do Lamar Lamar said look I'm gonna need 70 I like watch The music body no she'll be say hey on Joe from Cincinnati But I've lived in San Antonio, Texas bring back the Esteban shirt

I have an origin what I have an orange and one black in 2010. What is that? Esteban, like the first name for Ocho Cingo is Esteban Ocho Cingo. Oh, that's Steven, right? Esteban, yeah, basically, yeah. In Spanish, it's Steven. Hey, yeah, there you go.

Yeah, because you know me it's been in Spanish to Stephen. Hey, yeah, there you go. Okay. Yeah, so you know me y'all be sent a Hey, you know, I said my name was Vincent. Yeah Yeah, oh yeah, I heard that in a long time You ain't no oh, hey, that's the bond Journey in college said Shannon Oh Joe, can I get a shout out for my 56th birthday? You absolutely can, Jerodene. Thank you so much for tuning in and watching Unc and Ocho on Nightcap.

We appreciate your support and happy 56th birthday. Happy 56th. Hopefully you did something fun or you're about to do something fun. Hey, what you gonna do though? Yeah, hey, hold on, there you go. Miss Jerodene, you single's that's right up the alley on Whatever

What you mean? I mean today. I ain't been to the alley long time. I left this I left the car go They don't have it where I'm at. Nah, 56. That's that's that's right where you need to be. What? Mmm, my sweet spot my sweet spot, you know Half my age plus seven Sweet Spot, you know, half my age plus seven. What's half my age plus seven. Okay. I got you. I got you.

Give or take a year or two. Jordan over here laughing, you know, a 33, 34. Okay. You know, I got you. 34, 34 to. 60. Huh? You know they say.

34, 39, about 33, 33 to 45, 46. Man, you about. 50, 50, okay, 50. I'm telling you what I know. Get you 160, 65 and watch what happened to you. You'll never be the same.

Tell you, listen, dogs, bow leg, about 150, 160, you know. Nah, man, hey, what about 33, 34, I, what about 33 34? I won't be the same. Yeah, I'm gonna say Hey, baby, the same old joke Man every stop back at every better be there be killing me man. That's your problem This would have young girls. Hey, man, they mess it with me We like we mess with each we mess We like what we like, man. Yeah! I don't know what... Look, Ocho, why can't I be with somebody that like me as long... I don't down somebody that's not the age that I'm talking to. I don't date somebody if they're not in the same, you know, race

that I am. I don't feel I need to put down anybody just because I'm with somebody that's not in that age or that race. That ain't what I do. I'm confused. But here's the thing, but people quick to say, oh, she only with him. But then they turn around and say, well, hey, he can't be with nobody unless he dropped the bag anyway. So, I mean, so if I, they only with me for the bag and I can't be with nobody unless I dropped the bag.

So what difference does it make? Right. You right? The problem is, you weren't gonna be the one to get the bag dropped. That's the problem. Damn. Don't worry about me. I'm okay.

Oh Joe, leave me alone, man. Let me live. Oh Joe. I'm not letting you live. I was just suggesting something. That's all. Just a little suggestion. It wasn't nothing much.

I mean, you ain't got. How real? Oh, don't leave me alone, man. Let me live, Ocho. I don't like to live. I was just suggesting something. That's all. Just a little suggestion. It wasn't nothing much. I mean, you ain't got, how old were you? 37. 37? Yeah.

Okay. See? You ain't got nobody. You ain't 57. That's what you looking for. Well. You ain't found you somebody in that early, late thirties. That's what you looking for. Well. You were to find you, you were to find you somebody in their early late thirties.

Yeah, well they were, they were, well, they came and found me. Oh, okay. They found them, they find them. Okay, I'm with you. They find them. I got you, I got you, I got you. I got you. There you go, I know you gonna say something slick. Nah, I ain't gonna say nothing.

You right, you right by that. You right by that. What you need to do, you need to go find Michelle. You always on some boo-boo jive. I wouldn't even think about that, you just- Yeah, you were, you just mentioned the other night. Yeah, that was the other night. That's because I was on that type of time. I wasn't even think about that. You just- Yeah, you were. You just mentioned the other night. Yeah, that was the other night.

That's because I was, you know, I was, I was on that type of time. I wasn't even on that tonight. Oh, I'm glad. Oh, oh. All right, guys, that concludes this episode of Nightcap. Kansas City Chiefs, for seven consecutive years, Ocho, for the last 14 years, the Patriots or the Chiefs have been the ALC Championship game. That's crazy work.

Fourteen years, only two teams have been the ALC Championship game. Crazy work. One of these two teams have. For 14 consecutive years, Chiefs will face the winner of the Baltimore Ravens and the Buffalo Bills. The Washington Commanders will face the winner of the Rams and the Eagles. One of those teams will have a home field game

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