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Episode Date: March 2, 2026Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to the Arizona Cardinals are reportedly going to release Kyler Murray barring a last minute trade, there is a potential that 5 veteran QBs... can be cut this offseason, and the Bills GM is ready to move on from the past mistakes with Keon Coleman and much more! Subscribe to Nightcap presented by PrizePicks so you don’t miss out on any new drops! Download the PrizePicks app today and use code SHANNON to get $50 in lineups after you play your first $5 lineup! Visit https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/NI... 0:00 - Cardinals expected to release Kyler Murray27:10 - This offseason up to 5 veteran qbs with guaranteed money could be released33:35 - Bills GM ready to move on from the past with Keon Coleman38:20 - Jerry Jones admits to letting the fans down after 30 yr Super Bowl drought49:45 - Lions’ David Montgomery denying rumors of wanting a trade or release53:12 Viral Photo of Shannon and Sterling58:30 - Play or Fade2:00:55 - Q & Aaayyy (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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The Arizona Cardinals are reportedly expected to release Kyla Murray,
barring a last-minute trade per Ian Rappaport.
Kyla is reported to receive interest from the Vikings as well as Pittsburgh, New York Jets.
once Kyle hits free agency.
The Vikings intend to bring another quarterback in to compete with JJ,
either to raise his level of play or to take the job outright.
When you bring Cala Murray in there,
he's probably going to take the job outright.
Yeah.
But anyway, Ocho, is Kyle Murray still a franchise quarterback?
Absolutely.
He's a franchise quarterback in the right situation.
And I think about what certain teams need.
I think Kyle Murray to the Vikings, I don't like that move.
I like Kirk Cousins going back to the Vikings instead,
being a pocket passer based on the talus that they have around them.
You think about Kyle Murray and Trey McBride, right?
When Kyle was quarterback, you look at the difference in when Brissette came in as a quarterback.
You see how McBride's number change?
You see how the offensive play calling changed based on having a pocket passer
and not having someone who's a good quarterback in the right situation like Kyle
Murray, who always has to be sprinted out, whether left or with the right.
So it changes everything.
I like Calais Murray with the Jets.
I like him better with the Jets because I think in that environment and in what they have going on,
I think he'd be better suited with AG.
But the Vikings, it wouldn't make sense.
It would make sense because now you're going to have the receivers pissed and angry again
and you're going back in the one situation where they're not getting the productivity that they would want.
It's hard.
And I've said this.
and it's hard playing with a guy
that runs the football
because, oh, Cho, I'm running a comeback
and the crowd screaming.
I'm like, what the hell they're screaming for?
And he's over there.
Like, what the hell?
I wrote, Ochoo, I wrote a square out
and like, whoa, on, wait a damn minute.
It's hard to play
with a guy, like you said,
and you play with dropback quarterbacks
and I played with dropback quarterback.
To know that, okay,
back foot hit, the ball's coming out.
Yeah.
Oh, it's on time.
On time.
I understand that.
Three step, five steps, seven step.
Now, most guys, you know, they don't take seven steps anymore because very few teams have their guy up under center.
Guys take, guys are taking fewer and fewer snaps, even though Ben Johnson and his group still put the guy up under center.
But for the most part, we've seen Stafford's up under center a lot too.
Kyle Shanahan still has his guys.
But for the most part, they've gotten just a pure up under center guys are taking shotgun snap.
absent an all time high. With that being said, I mean, how this man get a super duper contract,
three, what, three years ago, Ocho, and here we are to release? Yeah. I mean,
but Ocho, I ain't trade because I already know you want to release him. I ain't giving you market
value for him. I'm not. Because guess what? I get him and pay him what I want to say and not have to
pick up that contract. I know you got to get rid of it, much. I know you got to. Yeah, most definitely.
Why, why when I know you got to get off something?
When I come in, hey, I will let you put the estate sale.
I'm going to let you put it on your yard, put it in your yard,
and I'll come look at it.
But I'm not going to make you an offer on it.
Yeah.
I know you got to get rid of it.
I mean, he's probably, he's probably going to be released.
Obviously, there are going to be suitors.
I just think offensively, from an offensive standpoint,
you look at what Kirk Cousins did when he's with the Minnesota Vikings.
And you look at Sam, what Sam Donald did when he was with the Minnesota Vikings.
Yes.
offensively the production that the receivers had.
You look at Kyla Murray when he had Tray McBride,
the numbers weren't the same.
Then all of a sudden,
Jacobi Brissette is a quarterback,
and now Tray McBride goes crazy.
Yes.
So now that gives you a better understanding.
Kyle and Murray needs to be in the right situation.
Not a team that's where you had that type of talent
where you have, you're throwing volume.
You're throwing volume passes.
I think somewhere like the Jets where it's somewhat balanced.
You know, you have Garrett Wilson.
You have, I mean, Brees is coming back, right?
Yeah, they say, I mean, it's being reported that they're going to put the franchise tag on it if they can't get a deal done, a long-term deal.
Okay, okay, yeah, I think I think over there would be dope.
I mean, it would be the right situation for Kyle and Murray.
I think just fans, of course, knowing them, they probably would say no.
And, I mean, it is what it is.
And, you know, they got A.D. Mitchell, remember they traded for A.D. Mitchell?
Hey, that's right. I like, I like A.D.
Yeah. How are we going to view a, um, how are we going to view, uh, um,
JJ, because this is going to be
his third year. He didn't play his first year.
He got Nick, Dean, and missed a couple of games last year.
How soon before we like, okay, Ocho, I don't know.
It ain't really too soon.
They're not going to be too soon because obviously the patience is growing thin.
The players offensively and those that are seniority
are going to, they're going to go frustrated.
They're going to get angry.
Now, Jedd was able to hold it together last year.
how much longer do you think he's going to be able to hold it together
even though he's a team player
he's a team player but obviously there are frustrations
that go on when as a team collectively
you're struggling because the most important position
is not playing well and not only is he not playing well
when he is available he's not playing well
he's always hurt
so I mean
something something's going to happen
you know what happens
because he look around he's like damn
Chase had another 120-k season.
Damn, hookah, J-S-N,
this was, that.
Yeah, yeah.
And I know what I had when I had my quarterbacks.
Hey, going crazy.
Nobody had the first two, three, four, five years like I had.
Yeah.
Now I feel like I'm running in mud.
And let you know how important that position is.
He's like, hold on.
Pick Lee Pittsburgh and come over to a new team.
and damn nill get $1,500.
Go crazy.
Easy.
I don't.
I'd have me a season.
I'd have me $17, $1,800.
Oh, hell not.
Y'all better get somebody in here before I start throwing.
Breaking chairs.
I all want to do it on, Joe.
Hey.
Hey, oh, it sucks.
It sucks.
It sucks.
Because first thing, because pretty soon,
you're going to start saying,
at least right now, y'all still got me in that top five.
But pretty soon you're like,
Ocho, I don't know we can put JET.
I can know we can keep JETA to top five
because, hey,
JSCN, and we got Pooka,
and we got Chase,
and we got a,
and we got PIC, and we got CD.
I don't know, I don't know, Ocho.
Yeah, and everything is a big.
A thousand yards, a thousand yards receiving,
ain't going to keep you in the top five.
You got to be 13, 14, 14, 15, 16, 100, 100,
1005, 110, 115, 20 catches.
Yeah.
That's what it, it is what it is.
And we, and what, in sports,
the thing that I love about sports on show is that you've got to constantly update your
resume.
Mm-hmm.
This ain't no Lifetime Achievement Award.
We'll give you a Lifetime Achievement Award once you're done.
Yeah.
That's what they give to Scorsese.
That's what they give to Spielberg.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
Uh-uh, uh-uh.
And you see, yeah, we're-
Oscar for best director goes to
who did it this year
I know Jaws was great
E.T was unbelievable.
Chandler's list was another outstanding movie.
Gangs or what's
that? Gangs or what's that
with Leonardo Caprio, Scorsese did.
We know what Scorsese, we know it's
work. But this year he
deserved the best director Oscar.
So
that's kind of how we do it.
We base everything.
Okay, yeah, we give you a great, you know,
you have a little off year.
I don't know,
he had a little off year.
He bounced back.
Right.
But Chase keep churning him.
Puka keep churning him.
JSCN.
He don't put,
that this is JSA and went 100.
Now he went 126.
Yeah.
1793.
Yeah.
Subbo.
Chase, another,
another outstanding season.
Another 13, 1400,
another 120.
Yeah.
you got puka you got cd you got chase
you know they're gonna be all right the viking the viking's next move has to be their best
move especially of that position it has because the window of opportunity to contend it's going
close especially with the defense you have what you what you what mr flores has to work with
right now is your best window of opportunity but you got to fix that position you got to get
that position together to me
If JJ's not the answer based on the small assemblies I've seen the past two years,
Kirk Cousins is the next best option.
There's nothing else out there.
Tom Brady ain't walking through that door.
Brett Corm ain't walking through that door.
I'm just saying to give you a better understanding on how difficult it is to find a competent quarterback to run your team.
It's not easy.
Is there anything in the goddamn draft?
They definitely not finished draft another quarterback.
That ain't happening.
You just took him with eight.
Three years ago.
Okay, remember we growing up.
Hey, you're going to such and such?
Yeah, I'm going to be there.
Save me a seat.
Hey, you get there before me, save me a seat.
If I get there before you, I save you a seat.
Uh-huh.
We don't get to save no seats when we ranking.
Oh, yeah.
Somebody coming to occupy that.
Somebody coming to.
Yeah.
But now that you just said that, you know, I'm glad you said that.
I'm glad you just said that.
That was a great analogy, too.
You still believe Justin Jefferson in the top five right now.
I would love to hear your response too
because I got my chat on to the right of me.
That's why I keep looking to the right.
It's, ooh.
It's close, Ocho.
It's close because Puka and J.S.N
has put together back to back.
Right now, I still got Chase it at one for me.
Yeah.
Based on what he's done
since he's been in the league
and he's shown no slippage.
So for me, Chase is number one.
Now, you get the battle out between
for me for two is Pooka and JSCN.
that'll be two and three for me
whatever order you want
now
top three
who
I'll be top five
so you got three
so we got three slots
so now you got Jetta
you got CD
you got a pick
yeah
hold up trying to think who else we got Ocho
so I mean
AJ Brown was once in the conversation
AJ Brown yeah yeah
yeah
AJ had a down year
Rite got hurt
Who else is out there, Ocho
Zay Flowers, no, he ain't top five
Pierce, no
McClure, no
that's just for me, that's just me
those guys that we mentioned,
they might be top five for somebody, but I'm just
saying based on what I say
a top receiver is
consistency that they bring.
I would say yes.
I would say yes,
but he's going to have to pick it up this year
because I don't know if I could hold
I could hold that spot much longer.
Let's see, yeah.
I mean, we know what he can do.
Yes, oh, absolutely.
But I don't, I don't understand.
And I saw somebody in the chat just say,
why bring in Kirk Cousins?
Why would you want to go backwards?
Well, hell, you're not going forward, what you got?
You're not going forward with what you have.
So having someone that's been able to get
it done, I mean, from a productive standpoint, obviously, and hoping you get over the hump.
But what's the point of having something where you ain't going no goddamn where you don't
have a chance at all?
True.
True.
But they got some, you know, what you call them got hurt?
Mike Evans got hurt this year.
But Ted, Carolina, I love a kid in Arizona.
Wilson.
I love him.
Oh, yeah.
He's nice.
He nice.
Isn't the first name not Cedric, is it?
No?
I think it's Mike.
Mike.
Michael Wilson.
I think that's his name.
I'm not,
and that's why I just said Wilson because I didn't want to, I didn't want to say a night.
No.
He's really good.
With the way Wilson played last year and we get Marvin Harrison,
we get Marvin Harrison Jr.
Back healthy and back playing to how we know he can play,
playing with confidence.
But they got a nasty duo over there.
Yeah.
They got a nasty little duo.
It is Michael Wilson?
Mm-hmm. Okay.
So, yeah, I agree with you, Ocho.
We know what this guy can do.
It's just a matter of getting a quarterback that can get him to football.
And that's what, you know, you play a dependent position
and you've got to have somebody that can get you the ball.
Yeah.
So we're going to find out.
JJ, it's not, never.
The last thing you want to be labeled is an injury prone.
Yeah.
He missed the first year with an injury.
And then he got Nick.
remember he played the first game to beat came back beat Chicago he missed three or four games
comes back gets nicked again he's going to have to find a better way to he's going to have to
find a way to stay on the field because the best ability is availability I don't care how great
you are if you're not on the field what can I do with that can't even evaluate that what am I
supposed to do with that can't evaluate it so it's going to be incumbent to him to get into that
playbook understand stay on the field because like you say jetta guys are going to get
frustrated you look at what they have
Addison and
Hawkinson will be back
Jeddah
I read I think they're moving on from Aaron
Jones they said yeah I saw that
I saw that earlier we're going to try to move you
and if we can't we're going to end up releasing you
and save some money on the cap
because boy
I don't know how much of that combine you watch
yeah this combine here
hey I didn't I didn't miss
nothing obviously even if you don't
watch the combine unc if you have social media
you get to see everything.
You get to see everything.
I've never seen nothing like this.
I've never seen nothing like this.
This was the fastest combine on record.
It had to be.
The DVD ran the fastest.
The Y receivers ran the fastest.
The tight ends ran the fastest.
Yeah.
The O lineman.
Everybody was outstanding.
Hey, did you see,
you see Young Bull from Miami to 6'9,
6'9, 3 and 40-something pounds, ran a 5 something?
Yeah.
How are you that big moving like that, man?
And I like when they simble cast it gets rich.
They're going to be blowing the doors on Rich.
The Deep Live will get rich a four-yard head start and catch him at the 30.
Hey, them boys was moving.
They was moving.
They was moving.
They was moving.
And what I don't like, this is one of the things I don't like.
And I would love to sit down and talk to some of these players.
With some of the times that I'm seeing, based on what I saw at the combine, if you,
if you're running that fast,
why is it not popping up
and showing up on tape like that?
Like with that kind of speed,
you should be dominating
at said position at the collegiate level.
So something is disconnected in a sense.
Do you run a foot?
Do you understand what you're supposed to do
if you have the agility,
the thing that can be taught,
you can't teach speed?
So you add that in addition
to all the other qualities
and intangibles and qualities that make you good or great at said position,
there's no reason.
I don't understand.
With all those times and watching college football all season long,
like we've done, nothing jumped out.
Nothing was like every week.
When Reggie Bush played, Unc, we tuned in because it's Reggie.
You got to see it.
Peter Warwick, Andre Johnson.
I mean, Michael Vickering, it was at VT.
Like, you tune in to see it.
And it just, I didn't have that, based on what I saw the date or the past,
that's speaking from the combine.
Well, wait a minute.
Why did all these fast time,
but everybody flew under the radar
in season?
There's a difference between running fast
and playing fast.
Those are two different things.
You didn't run fast, but you played fast.
There are a lot of guys that ran forth.
John Ross ran fast, but he couldn't play fast.
Hey, he was, hey.
Hey, I don't see how the body.
Boy.
but see and the thing is
I mean his body wasn't made
because he was a track guy
see Tyreek has track speed but he's a football
body
Tyreek has their football body
and sometimes
Ocho what you get is guys going
and training for a specific task
I'm going to train to run the 40th
standing long jump the short cone
divert I'm a train for that
right okay you can train for it Ocho
that doesn't mean it translate
to what you're
you're doing on the field.
Right.
Like when I see some guys, when I see like an offensive lineman run,
when I'm going to need my offensive lineman to run 4-6, 4-7, 4-8.
All up, let me see, let me see what you do on this combo.
Let me see what you're doing this slip-bop.
Yes, yeah.
That's what I need to see.
All that running fast, you're off-as-lawful.
I don't give down about that.
Right.
Defense of linemen, all I want to do is see you 10 yards.
Yeah.
What does that look like?
If you run farther than 10-yard, bro, I'm sorry, you chasing some.
somebody in the end zone.
Mm-hmm.
So that's
the thing, Ocho, I think the thing
is that we see guys
and they're training for a specific thing.
Right.
As opposed to
as a football player.
Yes.
I mean, most of the guys in the Hall of Fame
didn't have pop-out stats, unless
it's Randy. Yeah. Oh, yeah.
A Randy Pro Day was stupid
crazy. Yeah. But if you look
at most of the guys. Yeah.
Average.
Yes.
average because i mean the game the game is not based on running in a straight line in the sense no you
think about all the 40 times chat stay with me real quick stay with me you think about all of all the 40
time from all the fast receivers the day right how do you stop someone that runs that fast right
we're not scared we're not scared at our speed is a great thing how do we stop it you put somebody
in front of it yeah you put somebody in front of them because most of the time if you're if you're
somebody that's that fast yes you're explosive but
but can you do it when there's a body in front of you?
Do you have the lateral movement and quickness to be able to get back?
Are you twitchy enough?
So that's what-
Look at Miles Garrett.
Look at Miles Garrett and how he rushed the passer.
You see he doing all this.
He's like a damn wide receiver tight-in trying to get off the ball.
He ain't supposed to be able to do that.
No, absolutely not.
How he take one, he fake one outside,
take one giant step outside and come cross any offensive lineman face he want to.
That's the difference.
Look at Vernon Goldston.
go back and look at his times
and what he ran. He should have been
hey, he should have been ripping people's head
off on the field. Right.
Look at a guy like Sean Oakman, six foot five,
six foot six. I don't want to know.
Can you play football? I'm looking for football.
That's it. I ain't looking for, I ain't looking for
Usain boat. I ain't looking for a bar
beaming, somebody going to jump 30 feet.
Can you play football?
And that's what it comes down to at the end of the day.
The 40 time is great.
Being that fast, it's really great.
It's a great quality to have.
It's a great trait to have because it can't be taught.
Then I look at things like Cardinal Tate.
Cardinal Tate ran 4-4-4-4-5 from Ohio State.
I don't care not about that.
I don't care not about that.
Turn on the goddamn film.
What does it look like when Brother Tate is playing
for the goddamn Ohio Buckeyes every goddamn Saturday?
What is he doing?
Prime example.
Look at the receiver we just talked about.
What did Chase run?
What did JSC run?
What did Pooka run?
What the Jetta run?
What did pickers run?
Ain't nobody in no four threes.
Mm-mm.
Mm-mm.
What is that?
Ain't nobody no limb foot standing long jump.
Ain't nobody got no 40-inch vertical.
Bro, can you play football?
Yeah, that's all that come down to me.
Now, if we go to the Football Olympics,
I'm glad I got you on my team because you're going to bring home to go.
Yeah.
But, mm-mm.
Hey, I would.
Look at Mike Mamula.
You all see what, and people say,
where the combine bulljive,
we've seen guys go up and slide down
based on what they did at the combine.
So don't tell me the combine,
oh, yes, it does.
It played a big role.
There are these guys,
a sunny style's brother,
his brother ran Lorenzo.
He ran 427.
Yeah.
A safety.
He were moving, boy.
427?
He will move in.
And then running.
Oh, Joe, your boy,
uh, uh, Jeremiah Love,
you see what he ran.
He ran for three.
Yeah.
He ran for three.
Hey, it don't look for it.
You know, you know what Jeremiah Love?
Do you know what he remind me of?
He runs so smooth and there's no irky, jerky like, eh, you get like where it looks like
he's being explosive.
He reminded me at Aaron Foster.
Mm-hmm.
When Aaron Foster, Aaron Foster was fast, but he, he glided in such a way where it looks
so effortless like he wasn't even trying, but they're moving.
and you don't know they're moving to somebody trying to catch their ass.
This kid here got, who, I knew as bad.
I thought he was low 4-4.
I ain't think he was going to go sub-44.
Right.
Yeah, that was nice.
I mean, them guys, them guys were rolling.
Yeah, they were moving.
Them guys were rolling this week.
I mean, the tight end run 439.
Mm-hmm.
40-end's vertical, Lem 2.
Guys standing long, uh, uh, burt, 45 and a half.
Yeah.
I do I I don't want to receive us to understand if you have that kind of speed you're running four twos and you're running four threes you should be able to go if you understand the game of football and how to manipulate and get open and manipulate and understanding leverage and coverages you should dominate the game but there's so many other factors that aren't there in your game and you're not polished enough to understand that.
I would love, obviously, I don't have the opportunity to do so.
And I don't want to step on other people's toes
that are training said receivers that are coming out
and doing all this stuff.
But there is so much where they can come in and dominate right away
if you have that kind of speed.
If the rest of your game, it just polished up.
There's no way.
It's simple.
What you're saying is, can you do something other than run a goal?
Can you run an out?
Can you run an end?
Can you run a dig?
Can you run a comeback?
Can you run an over?
Yeah.
Because what makes Hyriek so unique is that people afraid of that speed,
but he can stop on the nine.
He can run that speed out.
He can run that dig.
He can run that comeback.
He can run the over.
He can run the shallow.
You do everything else.
Can you tie everything together to make everything look like you running a go ball?
Mm-hmm.
Because that guy, I don't get a back pedal.
I don't give a damn what you running.
He ain't, you ain't beating him.
He going to drive his ass off on it.
Yeah.
You better get, you better break that cushion and make him think you
about to get up out of there.
Because if that guy don't respect you,
okay, good luck.
The funny thing about it,
the funny thing about it,
if you're fast as hell,
all these people run these fast times, right?
And this is where you get exposed
because if you can't,
for one, if you can't get off the bump,
you're done.
You're not going to last long anyway.
If you can't run fast
and be able to stop a transition,
well, I mean, you're done also.
Got to be able to control it.
You got you got to
Speed without control
ain't do you no good, Ocho
at all.
That's like having a Ferrari
with no brakes.
Mm-hmm.
And do you no good.
I got a nice car.
Can you drive it?
Nah,
man,
you know, man,
I don't get it out of third?
What the hell did it?
Ocho,
what the hell you got a Ferrari
and you can't get it out of third gear?
Right.
The hell?
I think Ferrari got six gears now.
You only get half of it?
Mm-hmm.
Because you don't know
what to do with that.
Yeah.
I was excited, though.
I was excited.
Man, they see that quarterback from Arkansas?
Now, look, what he did really don't have any name with the, uh-huh.
That was the name brother, wasn't it?
No, no, no, no, no, he'll receiver.
You're talking about Trey Lansing, brother?
No, Arkansas had a quarterback that ran four-three.
He ran the second fastest 40 times.
He had this long jump.
He had like a 40-something inch birthday.
Six-six.
Yeah, six-six.
Yeah, Joe, the hit me up.
You see the homeboy in front of you see the opposite?
Come on, Joe.
Yeah.
Yeah, they got,
as what was the quarterback name?
What was the measurable?
But he's like, he had the highest bird,
the highest standard long jump,
the second fastest is 40.
Right.
I mean, he was,
I ain't know a boy had it like this.
Right.
Did not.
But again, it comes back to this, though.
Would it look like when you turn the film on?
But that's what I'm saying.
All those stuff, Ocho, a 40-inch vertical,
a 11-2 standard,
not for a quarterback.
No, bro, I want to know how he processed information.
How soon can he get the ball?
How soon can he see it, process it, and get the ball gone?
That's all I care about.
I don't care about that.
It'd be nice if you break away the likelihood of a quarterback
take it off and go in 80.
They've probably been less than,
they've probably been less in the history of the game.
How many times you think a quarterback has taken off and gotten 80?
Maybe five times in the history of the game.
Yeah, remember Terrell prior?
Yeah, he was 93.
quarterback and he cleared it and went 80.
Yeah.
That's the longest run.
He went 93.
It was that long?
Yeah.
Uh-huh.
I can't think.
I mean, Michael Vicks done it a few times.
Maybe not 80 plus, but he then broke some long ones.
Yeah.
So my thing is, Ocho, I want to know, can you process the information?
Can you get the ball of the hand?
How soon can you detect what the defense is doing and get the ball gone out of your hands based on what you want to do?
Mm-hmm.
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There are potential scenarios this offseason
where up to five veteran quarterbacks with guaranteed money in 26
could be released.
As a result, their next contract with a new team
could be a minimum of $1.3 million.
Tua has 54 million guaranteed.
Kyle Murray has almost $37 million guaranteed.
Gino Smith has $18.5 million guaranteed.
First Cousins has $10 million guaranteed.
And Justin Fields has $10 million guaranteed in a league salary cap with $301 million, oh, Cho.
Yeah.
How value is it going to be for a quarterback,
making a million one point I think the minimum guarantee for a quarterback is 1.3 million now.
So you can build out a nice roster with a quarterback that's 1.3 million, don't you?
And also you could build a nice roster, but everybody you just name won't be a starter anywhere else.
And there'll be backups.
So whoever the starter is based on where these players go, I mean, it's cool that you have a quarterback that's maybe what,
your second or third string that's making a million, a million one, a million two, a million three
because you can build in other areas that are more important.
then you back up damn quarterback or your third.
Here's the thing.
Somebody's got to play in Miami.
Who was going to be?
I don't know.
Maybe it's Cowler.
Maybe it's Gino.
Somebody might be in a situation where they go and play in, uh,
Hey, maybe.
Arizona.
You know what?
Maybe Gino Smith can't come home.
Gino Smith, Miami Dolphin quarterbacks.
Gino,
Gino de Waddle.
Gino hands off the H-hand.
I mean,
he could spin it like no other now.
That ain't the problem.
That's never been the problem.
He can spin it, but with the best of them.
You got to be able to stay upright though.
Yeah.
You got to protect him.
Chat, what do y'all think about Gino Smith
coming on back home to Miami, man?
Play quarterback.
Justin Fields.
I'm trying to figure out where Justin Fields can go.
Oh, man.
Hey, they're going to let him go home.
Like you said, Ocho, he's not going to be a starter.
I don't think he goes anywhere and becomes a starter.
That was that opportunity right there, huh?
It was.
That was the opportunity in New York.
I felt good about it.
I felt good about it because I said it.
I say, what he had to do with in Chicago,
it's unfortunate.
Obviously, going to Pittsburgh and playing as well as you did in Pittsburgh,
but Mike Tomlin had already promised Russell Will and the starting position once he was healthy.
I say, you know what?
You know what?
know what he's going to be all right finally got his own team i have nothing to worry about i don't have
to look over my shoulder when it comes to playing position i can play freely and i just i mean it's just
it's just never goes right for anybody at that position since the goddamn broadway joe you would
have to come in there and be superman you know for them to have the kind of success that you want they're not
they're not the best run organization so i don't know who can have success there hell i'm not so sure
the Tom Brady or Peyton could have success
unless it's like, look, when
you look, when, when, when, when, when, when,
when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when,
whatever you want to run.
Right.
Talk to it.
And if you think about it, Tom Brady didn't start having a success.
You look at the first half when they went, oh, Cho, and it's like, okay, Tom,
you do you.
Yeah.
We're going to get the plays that you like, what you had in town, what you had in
New England, and Tom Brady took off the second half.
They ran what Peyton like from day one.
Peyton did the walk through.
Peyton did the, uh, uh, uh, practice.
practice. So if you're going to have a guy, hey, you got to do what he does best,
what he feels comfortable doing. But man, two got 54 million. That's just going,
Ocho, this man would have a hundred million in dead cash. Yeah. On Dolphin's book. And so that's
what I tell you people. Oh, he made too much and they won't trade it. They won't cut him. Oh,
boy job. Yeah. I don't think people understand it. When the team is fed up with you,
regards to what you have, you know,
regards to dead cap, whatever that number may be,
when they don't want you, they will get rid of you,
no matter what.
They don't care about that.
They don't care about that.
They don't care about that.
They write that down.
Quick in a hurry.
But he still gets that $54 million, though, huh?
Yeah, he's guaranteed.
Yeah, you guarantee that.
So, I mean,
yes.
Hey, it is what it is.
I hope he goes somewhere where I'm not sure
if you'll be able to compete for a job,
but be a very quality backup quarterback,
with wherever he does go
and he continues to have success
in a very, very long career going forward.
Oh, Joe, the thing is about quarterback
and this is, I think,
what goes unnoticed, people need to understand this.
It's a lot more to be in a quarterback
than playing that position.
Oh, yeah.
Watch what you say.
You got to watch what you do.
You got to watch how you move
because everybody else is watching that in the building.
Yeah.
From ownership to players, to all.
All of that.
Yeah.
And while he wasn't,
Tua wasn't the greatest quarterback,
he had some missteps based on what he said.
Yeah.
And it's,
man,
unless you've been in that locker room,
but you've been in the locker room,
but you know how it is.
Yeah,
absolutely.
And when I tell people,
I say,
look, those guys in that locker room,
they know you as good,
if not better than your family.
So you can't fool him.
No.
They might fool.
A lot of people,
they got the media food.
Mm-hmm.
You don't fool you guys.
You don't fool your teammate.
Not the locker room.
Never that.
If they knew how fuller, you know what that man was?
And so I think the thing with Tua is that he learned a valuable lesson.
Sometimes saying less is more.
Yeah.
Well, he knows now.
Yeah.
He knows now.
So Bill's GM, Brandon Bean, is ready to forget about the past with Keon Coleman
following an underwhelming start to the career.
being cited Joe Brady's promotion to head coach
and the arrivals of offensive coordinator Pete Carmichael Jr
and wide receivers coach,
Drew Terrell, Terrell, Terrell,
as moves that would help Keon have a clean slate.
I think there is a new energy in this year three
and we're going to hit full reset with Keon.
Keon had a very good offseason last year
and we honestly had a very good training camp.
We played the Ravens in the first game
and he had 100 whatever yards.
and it's just some things from the maturity standpoint after that,
but Keon has said all the right things.
I give him this.
He's very accountable.
He's never made an excuse.
We're all hands on deck and we're going to do our part.
And I know Joe and those coaches are very excited for what's in store for year three.
I agree.
Yeah.
You got to know, bro, if you do some things and you're not playing through your own fault,
Ocho, you can't be on the field dancing.
You just can't.
You just can't.
And that's what they were talking about, the maturity phase.
Right.
Really?
The stuff that people find funny in your rookie year,
they're not going to find it funny at the second year.
And they definitely not going to find it funny at the third.
You don't really know.
You don't know what you don't know.
Right.
But now, Ocho, they're going to find it even less funnier in year three.
Yeah.
You got to get it.
They're saying, hold on, all these guys that,
we expect you to be a thousand yards.
We expect you to be, you know, 85, 90, 100 catches.
We expect you to be double-digit touchdowns.
That's what the expectations are, with you.
Yeah.
I mean, listen, he's one of those that can do that.
He's one of those that can do it.
He has the size, he has the speed.
He has the hands when he's locked in, you know,
to be able to be a complimentary piece, you know, for that office.
and he should be the go-to guy.
It's just about working on that craft,
not when you get in season, off-season.
This is where you get better.
This is where you get good.
This is where you polish up your game, you know, in the off-season.
Because once you get back, that ain't nothing but F-and-I almost curse.
That ain't nothing but X-N-N-N-N-N-th.
That's all it is.
It's X-N-N-Nose.
You're already supposed to be able to, in the off-season,
you want to go back with a mentality,
how can I make everybody job around me easier?
Yep.
My quarterback.
How can I make my officer-coordinated job easy?
You don't have to worry about me.
I'm somebody you know you can count on
every time it's time to call to play.
But God damn, it's third and short.
I don't know what to do.
You know what?
I can call on 85 because I know we're going to be open.
I'm going to call on him.
Just make everybody else's job around you easy.
That should be every player's mentality
in the off-season when I go back.
They watch me in the off-season program,
but God damn, who is?
was this completely different completely different whatever whatever it may be hey you're going to
have to get me the ball i'm going to make it so hard for you don't want to go to throw to somebody else
you got to get me the ball call play right right right right right you're a 84 going to be first
to second read in all the plays that you call and even if i'm last read you're looking at me first
anyway because you know i'm going to win that's how he has to approach it i i agree a brandon bese and look
last year was last year the year before,
whatever the case may be.
This is a new reset.
We got a new coaching staff.
We know what this kid can do.
We believe he'll have an,
he had an excellent offseason.
He had an excellent training camp.
He had an excellent first game.
Okay.
Those are some nice things to build on.
Yeah.
But you're not going to continue.
They're not going to give you grace forever, Ocho.
Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no.
You get one year.
You get one year, especially if you don't have any issues
and no hiccups.
But if you have hiccups, you have issues and problems,
and you're not playing well, okay, some got to give.
Some got to give.
So with the young man, all the best,
but you got to take it serious.
You got to take it serious.
All that joking and clining around.
There's a time and a place for all that.
There'll be time and the place for all that.
Oh, he's going to be all right.
Take care of what you need to take care of.
You heard me on?
Huh?
You're going to be all right.
He's going to be all right.
All right.
Yeah, he's going to get him and ex.
I think I got about seven more guys coming down with me.
About a month, yeah.
We get a month, a month straight.
Now, 30 years since the Cowboys' last Super Bowl appearance,
Jerry Jones says he had let the fans down with his team's championship drought.
Jerry said, I really can't accept just the thought of winning one Super Bowl.
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I've got more time on my clock than in my mind.
And so I don't see it that way.
I see a chance to put the team together and basically be knocking at the edge
and get another one or get another chance at another one.
It runs that way, in my view.
Make no mistake about it.
If you told me, I could because.
because I've done a lot of hitchhiking in my life.
And I like to start you're right now and hitchhike back to Dallas
with a Super Bowl.
After 799 finish in 2025, Jerry promised changes.
One chain will be the team's approach and free agency.
Jerry said, I would bet you that we'll spend more money in free agency than we have.
He talked about, Ocho, they're going to redo the restructure contracts of CD,
Tyler Smith, and Dak Prescott.
that are free 60 plus million.
Now, they also talked about doing something
with the 3D tackles contract.
That might free up another 20, 30 million dollars.
Now, you're going to have to overspend for George Pickens.
We know that, you know that, I know that.
You're going to have to overspend.
But you should be okay with that.
You brought a new, I think they're going to a 3-4.
I think they're going to a 34 defense.
Right.
You go, whatever you want.
You can go to a 3-4.
34, you go to a 25, you can go through a 3-3-5.
You better have some hail raisers over there.
Yeah, you got to.
You need three.
I'm going to say it over and over again.
I'm not sure why Jerry always does this every off season,
gets everybody hyped up, says all these things that you're going to do.
He doesn't really do him.
He never really does him.
No.
He never really does him.
And he gets everybody excited because they always believe in some of the things that he says over the years.
He commencing now.
Hell, he had me believe.
I'm like, damn, Jerry, about it's spinning for anything.
Man, man, man.
You could have had Derek Henry.
I mean, you played Javonte Williams six to me.
You could have had Derek Henry for eight.
No, but go ahead, don't you?
I'll see what you.
Yeah, yeah.
But, but, but, but, but listen, we all know what the Cowboys' problems are.
We always know the cowboy's struggles are.
It's never been on the officer side of the ball.
Never been an offensive side of the ball.
They, they've had great offense.
But the issues have always, their Achilles here has always been on the defense end.
So again, obviously you, you, you've, you've, you've, you've, you've, you've made some moves, you know, you know,
but that's cool, but you still need impact players.
You need one.
on the outside.
Yeah, for sure.
You need another one in your back line.
You know, your secondary.
You need, you need someone to anchor, to anchor that defense,
you know, in the secondary.
You don't have that.
There's so many.
You definitely, Blan got to play better.
He needs to play, have this type of season that he played to get that contract,
Ocho.
You remember he's picking off everything, taking it to the house?
The PBUs are on point.
He needs to play, he needs to have that type of season again.
They need a backer.
They need the inside backer.
They need the inside backer.
They do.
They hadn't had one in a very long time.
Once Vanden Bosch, the Wolfhunter got hurt and continually had the neck issues and had to retire.
Yeah.
They haven't had somebody in that position.
But they got to get a hellraiser in that position.
And as you said, they got to get somebody to go hunt the quarterback.
Yeah, man.
It's tough.
I'm excited.
I'm excited for the Cowboys.
I'm not a cowboy fan.
I'm a fan of the players that play for the Cowboys.
There's a difference.
I get you.
I'm excited for Dack and what they're going to do.
I'm excited for CD and I'm very, very excited because he's been through a lot,
obviously based on what he's caused most of it, but I'm excited for Piggins as well,
you know, to have a season, whether it's in Dallas, whether it's somewhere else.
I just know he deserves to get his, like everyone else, has already gotten that's came out with him.
So hopefully Jerry does right by him.
The fans obviously believe in the organization.
They believe in Jerry.
even though, you know, things haven't worked out the past 30 plus years
and not having any success.
So, I mean, listen.
You can be good, Ocho.
You don't realize how successful you can be as long as you don't care
who gets the credit.
Hey.
You see that situation in Seattle?
You see the situation in the Rams?
Yeah.
Less need and McVeigh, John Schneider, McDonald,
Brett Veach,
Andy Reed, you look at Howie,
and what, howie Roseman in Philly and,
and, what's the guy's name,
the coach of Philly?
Who, Siriani?
Yeah, Siriani.
But as long as you don't care who gets the credit,
you can fine.
Yeah.
Oh, man.
Jerry said he would hitchhike back to Dallas to win a Super Bowl.
Jerry, you said a couple of years ago,
hey, you don't know, the right,
the size of the check I would write
if you would guarantee me a Super Bowl.
Well, ain't no guarantee.
That's the thing we love about sports.
Ain't no guarantee.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
And it's easy for you to hitchhite.
Hell, everybody's going to pick your ass up.
Got they recognize who you are.
You got to be careful.
Are they picking up for the right reasons or for the wrong reasons?
Yeah, yeah.
Shit, I mean, I can't believe people still actually hitchhite.
I mean, I see people.
I mean, it should be a big thing when I was a kid, though, Joe.
I grew up and I grew up and came up in late 60, early 70s,
when hitchhiking was really a thing.
And people would like hitchhike, where are you going?
Well, I'm headed.
Okay, I'm headed that way too.
I'm headed that way too, yeah.
What the hell?
Hey, today?
Hell now.
Ain't no telling what's going to happen to you.
It's way, way, way too dangerous.
So we're going to see what Jared says.
They're going to spend more money than they have,
which is not true.
Nobody has more money than the Cowboys.
Nobody has more money than the Cowboys.
But we're going to see.
They're going to need to do something with Steel.
I don't know if they restructure his contract.
Maybe they release him.
I don't know.
But they have said that DAC, CD, Tyler Smith,
restructures.
They're going to look at the restructure those 3D tackles.
That's a great start.
But they need great exemplary quarterback play.
They need a hail raiser in the middle.
middle of the defense.
And they need the edge.
They need the edge. Now, I don't know if they're going to go with
Trey Hendrickson and Free Agency.
I don't know. I don't think that D-Lyman, I think it was Blaine
that ran like four or six from Texas Tech.
He was booking. He was booking.
So I think that's what it was.
But Cowboys, y'all got to keep that healthy.
That's your best chance.
Keep that healthy and upright, upright and healthy.
but your defense,
you can't have your offense score 35
and your defense give up 38.
It's time up for that, Ocho.
Yeah.
But look, you know, they got two quality receivers.
Ferguson, look, he's solid.
He doesn't, he's not going to do anything.
Extraordinary.
I don't think he's a top five, top eight tight end.
But he's solid.
You know, you throw the ball, he'll catch it.
Is he McBride or he's one of these,
You know, Harold Fanning, Jr.
He's one of those guys.
No, he's not.
He's not.
And Warren, Loveland, he's not that.
Hawkinson, Leporta, he's not that.
But he's a solid guy.
He can make plays when giving the opportunity.
And he should have a lot of opportunities.
Because you got those two guys outside.
Yeah.
And I had Aaron, I said, I was feasted.
Oh, say, I'm about to kill you to that.
Lab.
My gosh.
And Dak loved.
throw into the tight end. Oh, yeah.
That loves throwing to the tight end.
So this is, look, Cowboys,
y'all got some catching up to do.
Because I don't believe the Rams step back
and based on the way less need
for the Rams and John Snyder from the Seahawks,
the way they draft and the way they put
teams together, you know how we're going to have
a bounce back year? They ain't going
nowhere, bro.
So, and it's time,
a, the
the lions, get La Porta back.
Yeah.
So now he's in the mix with Amin Ra and J-mo.
Oh, yeah.
So at worst-case scenario, Cowboys,
you start like the seventh and the eighth best team
in the NFC, Ocho.
Mm-hmm.
Because you're not putting them in front of the Rams.
You're not putting them in front of the Seahawks.
You're not putting them in front of Chicago.
You're not putting them in front of the lions.
You're not putting them in front of the Bears.
I'm not sure you put them in front of the Packers.
That's six teams right there.
Are you putting them in front of the 49ers?
No.
You know what's funny?
That's 17s right there.
Only 17s make the playoffs,
oh, Cho.
Yeah.
Outside of all those teams you made,
outside of the 49ers and all those teams you need,
named,
all of them continue to get better year and a year out.
Yes.
Defensively.
Yes.
Defensively.
So with that being said,
Jerry, you got your work cut out for it,
but you say you're going to write some checks.
Man, we're going to say.
We've got to take it back to the word.
The man say you going to do that?
I'm going to take it.
He said the same thing every year.
He just says it in a different way to get you excited.
Every year, it's something different.
Every off season.
You know what?
They're not talking about this enough.
You know, let me come out and say something out of the law,
the mood of the needle.
And as soon as they win one game, everybody going to say,
we're them boys.
We steal them boys.
Y'all not, though.
I like them.
But hey, I tell you, I give them credit, Ocho.
Yeah.
They don't drunk the Kool-Aid for so long.
Yeah.
They believe in it.
They believe in it.
Hell, forget.
I'm starting to believe, too, shit.
We're going to see what the Cowboys do.
791 last year.
Let's see if they could expand on that in 2026.
Lines running back David Montgomery is denying a report
that he wants to be traded or released by the team.
ESPN Jeremy Fowler reported that Montgomery wants out of Detroit after a role was reduced in the Lions office last season.
Rumor at the NFL scouting combine where the Lions would seek a day three draft pick, likely a fifth round selection and return for the seven-year veteran.
However, Montgomery responded to a tweet and implied that it wasn't true, writing damn.
D.O told you all that?
Yeah.
It come from somewhere.
It comes from somewhere.
Obviously, you have an agent,
your agent might be doing due diligence,
you know, behind closed doors,
based on how you feel in some of the conversations
you and him may have had.
Of course, you haven't said it,
but it doesn't just come out of nowhere.
Where there's smoke, there's fire.
You know, the conversation, your role was reduced
with the lines this year.
Obviously, Jemir Gibbs, being a top running back in his NFL,
there's a reason why, you know, your role was reduced
because of how well he's played.
And to keep him into rhythm of the offense,
and me, your role was reduced.
You are to me.
You are starting running back at his NFL.
And you can be just that.
It just can't be with the Detroit Lions.
So I do see David Montgomery going somewhere else that can use a very good running back right now.
And one place I have in mind for him to go where he would be perfect for that system would be over there in Houston.
Oh, Joe.
Yes, sir.
Did you see them guys rolling in a combat?
You see them running backs?
4-3, 4-3-2, 4-34, 4-4-3-4, 4-3-5, 4-36, 4-4.
Yeah, but there's only
I think you had to crack the top 10
You had to be 4-4
Hey guess what, Ocho
But also
They're cheap
Yeah, but with all that speed
To all that speed
There's only one I know about
And I watch college football all season long
There's only one name that kept ringing
All year long
And that's Jeremiah Love
Yes
In regards with all them 40 times
You know as fast as y'all running
But it wasn't translating on
On to the field
And then you know
It even gets even harder
Once you get to the NFL
because everybody fast.
Yeah.
So now everything else matters
when it comes to playing the game of football
than just being fast.
I think the thing is,
what we know, Ocho,
teams like young running backs.
That's why they're so easy to disregard.
That's why it's all,
I think it's more probable than not.
It's more likely that Kenneth Walker
will be playing on somebody else's team next year.
He's a Super Bowl MVP.
Yeah.
That they feel that's the one position,
they feel is the easiest to replace.
Yeah.
Unless you're special.
Yeah.
You got to be special.
If you're not special, I mean, if you're extremely valuable, three down back, you can do, you can catch the ball, you can line up in a slot, you can do a multitude of things at the position.
There might be less than five of those in the league.
Not, not five.
You look at, look at Jamir.
Five might be a stretch.
Five of the stretch.
You look at Jamir, you look at CMAC.
Yeah, that's true.
Probably Sequin.
three
even what you call him
and I think he could do more
on the running down
but they take him out
King Henry
yeah
but that's
ain't a whole lot
and a whole lot of
you know
getting you giving getting opportunities
like that Ocho
no no no
you got to be special on
you got to be special
Ocho there was a photo
that went viral today
I remember this
we took this in
we took this picture photo
in June of 1990
It was a hundred and two degrees in South Carolina.
They had us a damn starter jacket.
I said, I'm keeping that jacket.
I had that jacket because we got to keep the jacket and the hat.
Where is it?
I want to, if I got it, it's at my grandmother's house in Glenville.
Yeah, hey, that's dope.
But you know, starter, start, look, I don't know if started.
Back then?
What?
Man, stop playing, boy.
Bay.
Stop playing.
Man, you don't know how bad, my whole bag.
man, let me get that jacket.
Let me get that jacket.
Let me get that jacket.
Starter was the lick back in the 90s.
When that thing first came out,
I think I'm going to call Libby tomorrow and see.
Libby is this jacket in the closet.
Yeah, Starter was a real deal.
Coach used to have them on on the sidelines on.
They used to be clean, you guys.
They used to be real fly, man.
Yeah, I like starter jackets.
Obviously, I think I get an opportunity to wear starter much.
Obviously, the jackets.
Having started hats, yes,
but the jackets here in Miami, you know,
was too damn hot.
Them Jacks used to be so clean.
That's on 24-year-old Shea.
That ain't nothing but on 24-year-old shade right now.
Oh, you only 24 there, boy?
24.
Okay.
You know what I'm saying?
You know, they had no gray in sight.
Boy, somebody would have told me I have gray hair out of slap them.
You're a lie.
But you ever say no foolishness just like that.
Well, you know, you know, you could always put a little rogaine on now.
I mean, he's black.
That's Beijing.
No, Rogan helps your hair grow.
No, Roagame, you make it black, huh?
Mm-mm.
No?
That's just for men or Beijing.
Okay, my bad.
My bad.
I don't know.
But the salt and pepper, it suits you, though.
Everybody likes the salt and pepper suits you.
Yeah.
I can't wait to mind start, boy.
I got to get that jacket, man.
I bet you my brother still got his.
You think they, I think, listen, history always repeats itself,
especially when to come to fashion.
Oh, they're going to come, but you think the starter jacket don't come back in style?
They might even be back.
We just don't know about it.
I'm sure if you want to buy a starter jacket back?
Probably so.
Every show, everything else then came back.
Because I definitely got the poster.
I got a poster.
They did a poster with it.
And I definitely had a poster.
As a matter of fact,
I got it framed in my basement downstairs
in Atlanta.
Chad, the starter jacket back?
Yeah, yeah.
Some people said.
That was the old old school Bronco logo.
So Shirley and Shannon Sharp, everything you've got is up to you.
You know, I bet they got get that shot your boy, quick little five,
little five, you know, five, you know, five bands, you know,
a little five something.
What year that was?
92.
Oh, boy, 5,000 and 92?
Yeah.
Ooh, that's a good chunk of change, boy.
What?
Oh, that's a good chunk.
And considering the off-season, I wasn't, I wasn't making no money.
Because my contract, I have, because I had on the sign of two-year deal.
Right.
So I made 63 and 73.
So I won't make a $5,000.
But you don't $5 a do for me?
Man, start playing, right?
Betting, oh.
Tax what?
I pay taxes on this candy or whatever I'm buying.
That's the only tax you're going to get, Uncle Sam.
So take it out of that.
Because I'm using this whole $5K.
Yeah, boy, it was so bad.
It was so hot.
I remember walking out there because we was at my brother's football.
football camp.
Yeah.
And I remember walking out there because they said we got a commercial,
blah, blah, blah.
And I'm like, well, damn.
And I remember looking and seeing it.
I'm like, I know damn well.
I say, if we're putting that on,
I know we're going inside.
Right.
It's like, no, you know, we're not going to be that.
I said, it's a hundred and two.
Now, mind you, Ocho, we had already been out there.
My brother, you know, my brother each other
ever put a football camp on at Spring Valley.
So we had already been out there.
And I remember, I'm like, well, damn.
I'm like, well, man, we put this on.
I ain't going to be, I'm going to have to keep this.
He's like, no, you can keep it.
And then after being out there and a hot-ass son and taking the pictures,
we end up, you know, then the guys would come.
Because, you know, we have different guys come.
I mean, one year we had, my brother had Barry, had Reggie White,
guys used to show up football.
Football campuses were the thing back then.
Now I think guys do more golfing, golf events and stuff like that.
I think a few guys still do football.
But for the most thing, Ocho, they probably do golf or they play softball or something like that.
I don't think people do as many football camps as they did back there because everybody had a football camp.
But yeah, I remember I saw that today.
I was like, well, damn, where y'all get this from?
But, you know, old shape.
Ocho, it's time to play a fame presented by prize picks.
Okay.
I have two guys didn't run, but prize pick.
didn't hold it against us.
Arvel Reese was supposed to run under 446.
Ding!
Did that.
K.C. Concepcion was supposed to run under 4.4.
He did not run.
Jeremiah Love, 441.
He ran 436.
And Carson Beck, 4.81.
He didn't run.
So, hey, we cash in.
We got your paid.
We got your paid.
I thought, uh, uh, I didn't hear him because I
know he was at the,
he was at the podium and talking.
He was talking about his speech impediment and stuttering.
And, you know, he was, I think I read something where he said,
his mom said, God wanted you to say it was important.
He wanted you to say it twice.
So, but I thought he did a great job.
It was great having them all, man.
It was so fun.
It's always getting an opportunity to see these guys.
And when they come on, they kind of loosen up.
It kind of, you know, let us inside, let us inside of who they actually are
and see their personality.
That was great.
Here's the staff four picks, the flex play of head of tomorrow's NBA games.
Aprian Schengoon.
Point two and point five turnover.
Yeah, he handles the ball a lot.
He's going to have over 20 half turn.
I'm going over that.
Kevin Durant, 25.5 points.
He going over that.
Kishon George under 2.5 assists.
Now, he'll score a machine.
Kishon George.
Hold on.
Man, right now, what's going to come?
They don't do nothing right.
The bullets, excuse me, the heat, I mean, the wizard.
Damn, got me going back to the bullets.
That's how bad they be in.
They got under two and a half a sis.
All right, we don't go under.
We'll say under.
Nicola Yogurt, 30 points.
Oh, yeah, he's going over 30.
Yeah.
$25 to what a $150 download the app today.
Use code Shannon to get $15.
$50 off in lineups after you played your first $5 line up.
Prize picks.
It's good to be right.
Mm-hmm.
All right, we'll get out here on this one, Ocho.
Time to cue and a.
Big.
Let's go.
Uh-oh, we're going to see what you're going to do, Ocho.
Big Mike, you can only pick three.
You got 50, Jay-Z, Naz, Kiss,
and Biggie.
You can only pick three.
J.
Z.
You got 50.
Jay Z.
Nas,
Kiss, Biggie.
I'm going Jay Z.
Biggie and 50.
Jay Z.
Biggie and 50.
Hey, that Richard,
Richard die trying.
Jay Z,
reasonable doubt
and Biggie Smalls.
Blue Apple.
The life after death,
man.
I mean, that alone.
Now,
not take it any,
anything away from the other artists.
I'm just saying. Oh, my goodness.
Lord, that's tough. For me,
two or no brand is Hove and
Nas. Now I've got to pick
between Kiss and Biggie. Right.
I mean, Nas is that boy as well.
Huh? I say
Nas is that boy as well. But
show. Yeah, he's that boy.
Crazy, crazy, crazy.
You know what, Ocho?
Uh-huh. Man.
I think Kiss is underrated. People don't
get kiss his credit.
Oh, you,
kiss nice, man.
Oh, my goodness.
I'm going,
I'm sorry,
Hove.
I'm going,
nod,
kiss,
and Biggie.
Ooh.
May,
that's,
that,
that,
that would spark a debate.
But it,
it's your decision,
it's your choice.
That's,
that's a good one,
though.
Yeah.
I like that.
I can,
I can,
I can,
I can,
I can lead,
I can lead,
I can lead them to,
I'm three off.
I can.
Biggie was short.
Yeah.
But boy, he did a lot of damage.
And still and still to date.
Yeah, the notorious BIG and life after death?
T glazing.
I don't know, bro.
I don't know what we glazing.
But anyway, Jews 1976.
Hey, Ocho, have you ever taken advice from family, friend, or co-worker
only to tell yourself later life, man, that was some bad advice?
No.
I've never had that issue.
Most of the time,
especially when it comes to family and co-workers,
I listen to their opinions,
but actually taking their advice,
no, I'll listen.
Well, yeah.
In order for me, yeah,
in order for me to take advice,
I got to value your damn opinion.
Yeah.
Yeah.
No, sir.
ADJ 543.
What are some of the guys you wish worked out
in the NFL?
My, Taylor, Mays,
Alden Smith, Terrell,
prior, Sean King.
Oh, that's easy for me.
Well, go ahead, Ocho.
You play with Taylor Mays came to Cincinnati, didn't he?
No, I wasn't there.
I ain't that young.
Mays?
Yeah, the DB from the safety from S.
USC.
I know, hey, I know I look young.
I know I look young, but I'm 58.
Yeah, that's the AJ Green era, ain't it?
If I'm not mistaken, AJ Green and Andy Dogneyer there.
You might have been, Ocho.
You might be right, Ocho.
Yeah, yeah.
I look young.
I know, but, you know, I ain't played football in 20 years, nah.
No, for me, it would be Peter Warwick, especially he wasn't in college.
I would have loved for him to have a very long, illustrious NFL career.
But due to the injury, obviously, his knee, other players I would have loved to see
have worked out.
You know what, Bo Jackson, huh?
Yeah.
I would have loved if seen Bo play a long, a long career to see what his numbers would have looked like.
I think that that would have been dope.
We were robbed.
We were robbed of that.
We were robbed of Barry Sanders as well, him becoming frustrated and just walking away from
the game for whatever reason it may have been.
But he got 10 years, oh, show, damn.
He has so much.
It worked out.
Yeah, it worked out, but he has so much more left on it.
He has so much more left.
Hell, Calvin Johnson walked away from the game, frustrated again, with the same organization
for obvious reasons, for those that don't know.
Obviously, you know why.
So I'm trying to think.
Who else?
I would have loved to see.
I mean, that's what I can think of off the top of my head right now.
Yeah, Alden Smith was headed for a very, very special career.
If he could have just kept himself together off the field.
Yeah, he was,
people don't realize how good that defense.
They had, you know, they had Navarro Bowman.
They had Patrick Willis.
They had Alden Smith.
They had the other Smith.
from Cincinnati. I know you played with him.
The big white dude.
From where?
From Cincinnati.
What was his name? Number 94.
Justin Smith?
Justin Smith. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah.
Boy, that joke was.
Yeah, you were justin with nice, bro.
Yeah. Yeah. He was nice.
Real Chris Moore, B. Scott was the last,
where the last coach Kobe had. And for B. Scott to talk like that
is crazy.
JJ is proven to be a better coach at this rate.
But here is the fact,
Ocho, if I talk good about somebody,
that doesn't mean I'm trying to diminish another great player.
Right.
Kobe is Kobe.
There's nothing.
What LeBron does does not diminish what Kobe did.
Absolutely.
I wish,
me saying, man, Ocho was unbelievable.
That don't take away from Chase.
That don't take away from pick.
That doesn't take away from,
Isaac Curtis or downtown
or downtown Freddie Brown?
That don't take away from them.
So saying LeBron has been unbelievable
for the Lakers doesn't diminish what Kobe did.
Kobe did that.
It's etched and stone.
Kevin Boceney on Ocho,
just sending love to y'all brothers.
Love y'all, man. Keep it going.
Appreciate that, Kev.
Appreciate the support.
Juice.
High school to the pros.
LeBron, the best to ever do it.
not even close. One song sums it up.
Brian Carrere. What more can
you say? Thank you, Braun.
Yeah, nobody has that a level
of expectation. Think about it, Ocho.
Most players, the really
good players, what do they do,
Ocho? They go to college.
They went to college.
Corrine, went three years, had
Coach Wooden. And then he had
probably
another seven,
eight, nine years
about Pat Riley.
Magic, bird.
It's only a handful of the, Will, Russell, Tim Duncan, Magic Johnson.
I mean, the list goes on and on for this man to really not have,
and he mentions his coach a lot, the dominant male in his life,
but to go from high school, go from high school to the NBA
and to become what he's become.
The husband, the father, the basketball player, the mogul, the entrepreneur.
See, Kobe's a little different.
Kobe had a dad that played in the NBA.
So he got something that he could pass down.
He could talk to him.
It's kind of like Ocho Peyton's father or Matthew's father.
They had dads to play in the NFL.
You and I didn't have no dad to play in the NFL.
Now, me was different.
I had a brother that preceded me.
So, okay, this is what you need to do.
This is how you need to do it.
but guys that didn't have that.
So for LeBron to come out and be what he became,
yes.
Knock on wood, no slip-ups.
Mm-hmm.
That's a huge accomplishment, man.
Huge.
Brian M., the New York Giants,
who are y'all drafting, Jackson Dart Weapons,
Sonny Stiles, Caleb Downs.
Well, I think the thing is that they expect that Caleb Downs
to be a little taller.
All I know, somebody made those tackles.
I know he's six foot tall, six and a half or whatever the case may be,
but somebody did that.
Somebody won the Thorpe Award.
Somebody was a national champion.
Somebody did that.
I know Sonny Stiles is phenomenal and, hey, they might take it.
Yeah, I mean, I'm not sure.
I'm not sure why not.
I know they're not basing anything off of height.
I don't know.
He's not special.
Hey, I've seen Earl Thomas last night on.
Did you?
Not that big, huh?
No, man, Eric's a big.
But when he was on the field,
he played like he was six, nine, boy.
Side line to side line.
It's almost seen as if that Legion of Boom,
it was two of each of them out there on that field.
That's what it felt like.
Man, I mean, I'm not saying,
I'm watching me and I didn't get a chance to play against.
I'm like, they was all over the place.
So all this, all the, all the measurables that they talk about,
oh, he's on this short.
What do you look like
when I turn on the goddamn,
damn film gives me a better understanding of the player I'm getting.
Yep.
Hey, you know I went last night?
Where?
Oh, you staff now, huh?
Yeah, I was security in there.
You security?
Yeah, you know, I went to my daughter and tracked me.
It was the SEC championship.
University of Kentucky was running.
She did extremely well.
She PR'd down there in the four.
Then I watched her do the four by four in the third leg.
She had to go get somebody on that third leg.
Do we got them?
Yeah, she went and got it.
got her. I'm like, come on now. Come on, baby. She went and got them.
She's in Kentucky, right? Yeah, she had Kentucky. She had Kentucky. And it was that
collar station. That's why I ended up in Houston. And once again, never fails. I go to
Houston once a year. And obviously, the times I've had to go with, similar because of the track
me. Right. Boy, I tell you, I tell you, I tell you no lie. Nice. Yeah, it's dangerous out there,
boy. It's dangerous. I was, I went out to air,
Area 29 last night with Andre Johnson and Jonathan Joseph.
Oh, Jay Joe?
Yeah, Jay Joe.
And E.J.
Edron James was with us as well.
And I used that opportunity to kill time because my flight was to 6 o'clock this morning.
So I pulled it all nighter, left there about 4 in the morning.
And I ain't never seen it.
Man, you sound like me.
When I used to come to Vegas on Saturday night because I'm leaving on the first flight going back to Atlanta.
Right, yeah.
At 6 a.m.
Yeah.
So I go out, stay out all night, go back to the hotel, get my bags and go to the airport.
Oh, see, my back, I ain't really sure.
I don't travel with nothing.
I had my suitcase in the car and went straight from Area 29 to the airport.
And just, I just, I don't understand.
I asked, I ask E.J., I ask Andre, I say, I mean, very, I mean, you from Miami, you got drafted to Houston.
He never came back home.
And I understand why.
I understand why, you know, and just, I, now I'm a little bit more disciplined as I,
have gotten older so I can appreciate my surroundings, but I don't see.
I just, I'm at a loss of words.
I'm at a loss of words.
Kevin Boughton, I said give JJ Brock Purdy watching work.
Yeah, I bet he could work with Purdy.
Dr. Frank El Bellamy said, hey, fam, what do y'all think about Adam Randall?
Doc, I plumb forgot.
I don't know, A. Cho might have seen him, but I forgot.
Who?
Adam Randall, a guy from my hometown
that was at the Combine.
Oh.
If the Raiders could land Malik Willis,
could they trade the number one pick
for substantial compensation?
They could, but I don't think they're going in that direction.
I think they're going to take Mendoza.
I can see a scenario where Malik Willis ends up in Miami or Arizona.
That's just me.
Danny Jr. says Arkansas quarterback reminds me,
Anthony Richardson.
Tall, he's 6-60.
Way like 225, he ran 4-3.
Stanton out of the world,
standing broad jump out of the world,
threw some nice, deep balls.
But I don't, I mean, watching him,
hey, we'll see.
We'll see.
Those kind of measurables, Ocho, you know we like measurables.
Yeah, they didn't got nothing to do with, no matter.
You, okay, what do you think?
Sean Payton gave up play call.
Crazy to think two years ago after 70 points of Miami,
Dolphins are dang near the same spot Broncos were with Russ.
Yep.
Yeah, he gave up.
He said the new OC is going to call the plays.
Well, that's why they promoted him.
He was past game coordinator.
They promoted him and let Pete Carmichael go.
Pete Carmichael Jr. is now in Buffalo.
He was on the staff, and if I'm not mistaken, in New Orleans, with Sean, with Joe Brady.
So, yeah, Miami is in a bad situation.
They're tough.
It's tough because you've got a quarterback that you're going to move on from, whether you can trade him or release him.
You owe him $54 million as well.
You're not going to be able to trade him.
I don't think you're going to be able to trade him.
I think they're going to end up releasing him on Joe.
You're going to release, you're going to release Tyreek.
They've already released Tyreek, if they haven't at least about the start of the new year.
They're Chubb.
They're looking to trade Mika Fitzpatrick,
proud of release him.
They're in a bad spot.
They got a lot of heavy contracts.
They went for it.
It didn't pay off for.
Yeah, it didn't.
It didn't.
But, boy.
Daniel Wilson, Ocho,
how did Monica choose you to be in her video?
I mean, have you seen me?
Look at me.
What do you mean, how does she choose me?
If I look this good now,
imagine how I looked 20 years ago.
What do you mean how she chose me?
I'm still top 10.
Top 10.
most beautiful creatures on earth.
What do you mean? How?
I just choose not to play into that character
of being like,
you know, like this GQ model.
Like, I mean, yeah, yeah.
You feel me?
My homeboy Ocho, so he can beat that if he won't.
Hey, I don't, you know?
I mean, I'm the same guy who don't care.
Why I don't care?
Because I didn't have him the same pants
the past two months and don't care.
Why?
Because, you know, it's me.
I mean, look at me.
You know, you know, sexy.
You know, I just, you know.
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The New York Knicks blow out the San Antonio Spurs
and
Minnesota moves one game in front of the Denver Nugget.
They take over the fourth seed.
Thanks to a balanced effort, they got 21 points from Bon
from an Ant-Man, 15 points from Bones-Hiland.
They got 11 points from Nass Reed.
They got 14 points from Julius Randall
as they overcome almost 35.15 rebound, 9-assist game
from the Joker.
But they win this ball game comfortably 117 to 108 in Denver.
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I'm Daniel Jeremiah.
And I am Greg Rosenthal.
I know that, Greg.
We're teaming up on 40s and free agents, the podcast that owns the NFL off season.
This is where teams are built.
Free agency, combine, pro days, trade.
Every move matters.
From my draft boards and mock drafts
to my vaunted top 101 free agents
and how rosters come together.
Quarterback movement. Surprise signings.
We'll tell you what it means and who
really wins. Open your free IHeart
radio app. Search 40s and free agents
and listen now. Ready for
a different take on Formula One? Look no
further than no grip. A new podcast
tackling the culture of motor racing's most
coveted series. Join me, Lily Herman,
as we dive into the under-explored pockets
of F1, including the
astrology of the current grid, the story of the sports most consequential driver's strike,
and plenty of other mishap scandals and sagas that have made Formula One a delightful,
decadent, gumster fire for more than 75 years. Listen to no grip starting March 4th on the
IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
