Club Shay Shay - Nightcap - Hour 2: Chris Paul's lies + Why Damian Lillard is lonely

Episode Date: February 29, 2024

Shannon Sharpe and Gilbert Arenas discuss Chris Paul saying he nearly got traded to the Miami Heat to join Dwyane Wade and why Damian Lillard is struggling to adapt in Milwaukee. 0:00 Chris Paul reveals he was almost traded to Miami but trade didn’t happen since Wade didn’t want to give up #3 jersey8:40 Donovan Mitchell says Kyrie’s jersey should be retired - Gil says Brad Daugherty and Mark Price’s jerseys are, so why not his?10:40 Dame Lillard says life in Milwaukee is lonely - Unc compares his days playing in Denver then moving to Baltimore22:25 Is the NBA too offensively advantageous now? - Gil talks hand checking and why it wouldn’t be relevant today29:20 Ja Rule and 50 Cent beef continues - Gil happy he’s not the only one still petty about the beefs he has35:30 Q and ayyeee50:00 Much more Nightcap #Club #VolumeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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and D-Wade, but the trade didn't happen because D-Wade didn't want to give up three. Let's take a listen to Chris Paul and D-Wade talking about it on D-Wade, but the trade didn't happen because D-Wade didn't want to give up three. Let's take a listen to Chris Paul and D-Wade talking about it on D-Wade's podcast. Do you remember the call with Brian, you and I, when we were thinking about, when Riley wanted to trade to bring you to Miami? Absolutely.

Do you remember us getting on the phone? I was sitting in my condo, and CJ was sitting CJ was sitting on the couch, right? If you go back to my brother, CJ was sitting on the couch, if you go back to my brother always there CJ was sitting on the couch and we was talking about me coming to Miami we was talking about me coming to Miami we was talking about who gonna have the ball in their hands how it's gonna work we having a conversation yep we having a conversation right and then who was it was it CJ was it CJ that said

something about who gonna to wear number three? Bro, that's what I want to get to. We talk about all this about who going to have the ball. OK, we can all play together now, CP. I can play off the ball. We didn't figure all that out. And somebody said, well, who going to wear number three? Silence. the trade david stern vetoed the trade to put kobe and uh kobe with with paul gasol and excuse me chris paul with cop pow and kobe in la when he was in new orleans and now this trade didn't happen because d way didn't want to give up three and cp3 didn't want to be any other number but three. Oh, man. Listen, that's just players talking. That ain't it.

And it already started off as a cap. Who said anything about the big three having LeBron in it? He said LeBron was there. LeBron. LeBron. LeBron. Yeah. So who was going to leave?

Chris Bosh or Brock? Because you couldn't have had all of them, right? It would look like who was going to leave? Chris Bosh or Brock? Because you couldn't have had all of them, right? It would look like it was going to be Bosh. It was going to be the odd man out. No, no, no, no. Let's rewind back to 2010-11 when they lost to Dallas. What was the reason they lost to Dallas, huh? Because who played bad?

Who was the media? Who was the Scottty Pippen? Who didn't fit well with the other two? So yeah, Miami was thinking about trading and it wasn't Bosh at that time because you know, right then it was who's fighting over power. Braun was coming in.

When you bring Braun in, you bringing all of LeBron in Pat Riley got his own way of thinking so when they decided to move Braun to Scottie Pippen in the finals Braun didn't like that too much right

round one Braun shot what 50 I think 55 or 60 free throws in that first round series. In the finals, he only shot 20. The ball was, the offense was going around Wade, which made him a decoy. And he didn't like that. Ron didn't play well. I think Ron would average about 17 in thatoy. And he didn't like that. Bron didn't play well. I think Bron would average about 17 in that series. And this and this.

Miami was open to anything. Bosh, Dwight Howard, right? They were looking to make moves. But it wasn't going to be guaranteed. but I don't it wasn't going to be guaranteed Chris Paul, Wade and LeBron I'm not sure Chris Paul, Wade and Bosh win a championship

oh no they didn't care about that it was two forces battling at that moment in the battles of power you're talking about what that moment in the battles of power. You're talking about what he did in the finals, right? Wade County. Wade County. My team, I'm here.

Yeah. Yeah. So what he did in the finals, averaging 17, they was like, oh, I don't think this is going to work. So let's hear what people have to offer. So they had their ears open because they didn't see it all coming together. They thought that, you know, Matt Riley didn't think that he was going to have full control of the team. And their whole time there, that was really the battle of power. So, you know, when they're sitting here laughing, talking about we was the big three, did they say the names?

Because here's the thing. When you come with LeBron, you know what comes with LeBron. Rich Paul, Randy Mims, Maverick Carter, access. Yeah. And Pat didn't want to grant that access. Yeah. You remember he told us Phil Jackson told a story. remember he told uh phil jackson told a story he got that story from from from from from

pat riley about lebron wanting to stay over when thanksgiving yada yada yada and all that stuff yes posse what do you think he got that from yeah because you don't know what's going on in another team i couldn't tell you what was going on in any other team unless a friend of mine or a homeboy of mine told me what was going on. Ain't no way Phil Jackson should have known what was going on in Miami because he wasn't coaching in Miami. So how do you know LeBron wanted to stay over

one night? How did you know LeBron wanted his posse, his team wanted access unless somebody dry snitched you? No, no. at his posse or his team wanted access. Unless somebody dry snitched it. No, no. Pat Riley was going through it. Remember, like, now it kind of opens up the more players talk, right?

I said it a while back when I was like, you know, when Pat Riley talks about, you know, the heat culture, I said the heat culture is I'm going to let the stars do what they do, they win. And then I get to slave the non-talented ones. But when the talent is there, the magic, magic them, they did not listen to Pat Riley, right? No. When Shaq was there, when you hear Haslam

and Jason Williams talk, and I guess they were trying to send Jason Williams home and Shaq is like, hey, stay right there. What you doing? Uh-uh. And he's, Shaq's power is telling Pat Riley,

no, he ain't going nowhere. And that started the feud between Pat Riley and Shaq. What's happening? Same thing with Braun. When Braun was coming in, they not, no, no, no, no, no. I told a story about the, you know cookies the cookies on the plane what happened so you know braun takes care of

his body right and pat riley loves control so he loves micromanaging everything braun's like don't don't treat me like a baby in a sense, right? So on a plane, Pat Riley decided to say, you know, we all going on a diet. Get all the sweets, all the stuff off the plane. So, you know,

everybody's like, oh, hold on. You know, those cookies right there is LeBron James, right? I don't give a fuck who cookers they off. Everything off the plane. So everybody like,

oh, shit. Shit, he about to leave then. Braun comes on. Hey, stewardess, can I get the chocolate chip cookies and the strawberry milk and strawberry, I mean, chocolate milk and white milk. And it was like, oh, yeah. Yeah, we don't have any more cookies on the plane. He's like, no, no, no, they're over there. It was like, no,

Pat Riley had everything thrown off. Did he know those were my cookies? Yeah, he kind of actually said, I don't care whose cookies they are. Whose cookies they are. And, you know, everybody's trying to keep their head down because they don't want to make eye contact. And right there, oh, this is personal.

And you know how players, when they feel you targeting them personally, I'm a buck. I'm a dark bucket. Most people that want out of deals and want out of cities, it's always something minute. That's never anything serious, right?

It's Toronto, Paul George. They don't want Paul George. He's like, well, fuck it, then I'm going to leave. He'll turn down $30 million because he wants his friend. He said he's lonely here, and all he wants is this person. He'll take a pay cut for this person. And y'all saying, no, all right, I'm out. It'd be little things. It don't even saying, no, all right, I'm out. It'd be little

things. It don't even be... Right? Same thing with James Harden. It ain't about the money. You promised me this. Right. Right? And you lied. And the fact that you lied, I don't want to play for you anymore. And he gonna

take the same amount of money over in the Clippers. But the problem is we are friends and you lied to me, so boom. And he going to take the same amount of money over in the Clippers. But the problem is we are friends and you lied to me. So, boom. I'm out. I want out. Donald Mitchell thinks. Go ahead.

On that number three. That is capping on that number three. Donald Mitchell thinks the Cavs should retire Kyrie's number two. He should have his jersey retired for sure. Being able to do what he did at the highest level year after year to go from not winning to being able to do that and have the impact, I think is something that was truly remarkable. Obviously, what he's done in the playoffs, in his career, and in Cleveland, where he brought a city a championship,

I feel like Caleb Brown should have their jersey retired also. Well, LeBron's going to definitely have his number retired in Cleveland. Now, I don't think as long as Pat Riley there, he probably won't get it retired in Miami, but that's neither here nor there. I mean, how do you not retire a guy that wins two MVPs, two championships, and two finals MVPs, but we'll talk about that another day in time.

I think he should definitely have it retired. Only championship in team history, and he was a huge part of that. I think that's something that should never go overlooked. What are your thoughts on Kyrie having his jersey? Number one overall pick. He did. I think he did. I think he made a couple of all-star games while he was in Cleveland.

You think he should have his number retired? They got two. They got Brad. They got, was it Brad Daugherty? Brad Daugherty and Mark Price. You got them two up there, guys. They only got about, what, 1,800 more points than Kyrie, but Kyrie got a championship and All-Stars.

Hold up. Didn't Nate Thurman play for Cleveland? I know Nate played for Golden State. His jersey is retired and Golden State, I think. Who played for Derrick? Oh, okay. He might have came later in his career. But I know, I remember him playing for... You know, what he did there?

Yeah, he deserves his... Oh, he only played three years, 75 to 77. Yeah, he deserves it, you know, with the two people they got up there now right yeah you got your first championship you ain't gonna never get another one go ahead and

bless the man for what he did Damien literally admits life in Milwaukee is lonely and he doesn't have much of a life bro go to practice go home watch boxing play video games man I type in fight Hype on YouTube 100 times and be praying for something new on there to be on there. Seriously, I don't have much of a life,

but that's what comes with making big boy decisions. You got to be down for that and figure it out. Dame also, thoughts on the Bucks would be as dominant as the Celtics. I thought we'd be going along how Boston is right now, but I think we've learned that some things take time, especially stuff that has reward in the end. You can't come in and think just going to all be peaches and cream. We've had our ups and downs.

We've had coaching change. I haven't completely settled into finding who I am on this team, and I think it's kind of tough. What are your thoughts about what Dame said? Obviously, he was entrenched in Portland. He mentioned that everybody that he knew and loved,

his mom, his sisters, his brother, everybody was there. His wife, he's going through a divorce right now, currently. His kids was there. I'm assuming that the kids are in Portland. They come, his mom, sister, family probably brings the kids ever so often. But it's a big change when you're used to seeing your kids every single day when you're in Portland,

as opposed to like going stretches and days at a time and not being able to see them. But like he said, that comes along with the decisions that he made. I want to play for a championship and we'll figure out all the other stuff at a later date and time. So basically, he's finding out how quiet the house is when nobody's

in it. I'm pretty sure whatever is going on in Milwaukee outside the game is the same shit that was going on in Portland. Nothing. Nothing. There was no activities that was in Portland that they don't have in Milwaukee, which is nothing. So the video game sessions you do, you don't have the kids running around, playing, knocking over stuff.

you do you don't have the kids running around playing knocking over stuff that that extra noise like some people don't you know when you get used to certain things and they're taking away you realize how important they are right you know sleeping patterns daddy hey how you doing i'm going to sleep daddy good night love those are the little things those little moments he's not getting and those are the things that's making him sad, like waking up, probably kissing your kids in the morning, seeing you when you get home from school. Those little moments, it's not the whole day. It's probably total, probably an hour in his day that's really hurting him, right? Our goodnight babies, tuck him in the bed, the five minutes, for five minutes, maybe

reading to your kids before you go to the little dinner, if he can get the little, eating the extra food that they don't want to eat, washing them. Those little moments is when it's time for it to happen and they're not there, that's what's probably hurting them inside. Yeah. I mean, you get

used to, I mean, yeah, the kids are noisy, but you get accustomed to that, and then all of a sudden it's quiet. And you're like, you get used. I mean, you get used. I mean, yeah, the kids are noisy, but you get accustomed to that. And then all of a sudden it's quiet. Yeah. And you like, well, damn. And the monotony of knowing, OK, I will leave this time in Portland. I'm gonna go to the stadium. I'm gonna start this is my favorite restaurant. I'm gonna grab something to eat. You call, you know, you call the wife and you need me to pick up something. The boys, blah, blah, blah blah and now it's totally different you don't have a favorite restaurant or you didn't maybe you you you you hey hey bro where

to go get some good food some good soul food i mean where's the place to go get the best fish well who has this who has that so now that's what happened to me in baltimore it was the same but i had just spent 12 years i just spent 10 years in denver so i knew where everything was i knew where all of the soul food and if i wanted to go this place and all all of a sudden in baltimore most of the time people went down to dc man man if i got to travel an hour to have a good time that is that is shame for me he became a family man look he became a family man. Look, he became a family man. And now he turned him back into a single man. And he realized how much happier he was as a family man.

It grounded them. Right. For sure. He's rough days that he's having. Someone was rubbing your head and rubbing your back and telling you that. Don't worry. You're going to get them to tomorrow, baby.

You don't got that now. Right now, you're sitting there, you know, dealing with your bad shooting by yourself. Right? So now you're with your thoughts and you don't like your thoughts. Because 30 and 13, y'all was on the right path. Right. So when you say, I thought we would be where Portland,

I mean, where Boston is. You weren't. You just wasn't happy because inside you wasn't, you're not feeling whole. Right. That's me. That's the feeling he's feeling now

just without his family is exactly what retired players feel like when the game is gone. How easy is it for him? Because for the better part of a decade, he was the de facto man. And now it's really somebody else's team. Now, Giannis can say this Dame team all he wants to, but he knows that that's not Dame's team. Dame knows that's not his team. Everybody in Milwaukee knows all that.

He can do that 24 hours a day. That's Giannis' team. I don't think that is not the one that's bothering. It is. But how different is that because think about it now you got another player that is that is

thought of as better than you he's been there he's been entrenched in the community if not do are they happy to have Dame they've never had me hell you got to go back to Kareem to have a player of his caliber and been had a whole lot of players of Dane's caliber

with his resume other than Giannis and Kareem. I know Ray, but I think, you know, probably Dane, people will say Dane was a better player than Ray Allen. Now, they did have Oscar Robinson, but Oscar was at the tail end of his career.

They had Bobby Danridge, who won a championship in Milwaukee. And he won one Bobby Danridge, Bobby D Mr. Clutch was before your time. He also won a championship with the bullets with Elvin Hayes and Wes Unsel. But, but Dame is,

is a phenomenal player. And to have like you, I mean, it's just like anything. If you somewhere, you take an animal out of his natural habitat, where it's been for an extended period of time, it go be lonely. Like, man, I used to be able to roam for miles and miles. Now I roam for like 500 feet and I hit a wall. Yeah. But you're taking that animal out without his his family, too.

Yeah. Right. You go with the family. also, it makes it easier because basketball is a basketball, but if you mentally can't if you mentally can't be there, then physically you're not either. No matter how much training, how much shooting, you're going to have an up and down

season until you find a foundation. Like, I can guarantee you, if he starts rolling, eight, nine, ten games popping, I can guarantee you his kids are there. His kids are there for him to relax a little bit more. Right?

It's one of the... Take LeBron James right now and say, all right, you got to spend the next year here without your family. All right, I didn't have it. Maverick, everybody got to stay there. The comfort zone.

And, and I'm going in, I'm the second option. All of it. You know what I mean? It's, yeah, different.

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to ESPN, I said, look, what do you need? I said, I need Ash. Well, we have a producer. I said look they was like well what do you need I said I need Ash well we have a producer I said well that ain't my producer so when it has your best interest hey

I said no I need her and when I come she comes my team hey we go on the road we go on the road

Jordan, Ash one of them or both of them gonna be there okay what else Shelly has to have access she needs to be able to so because Shelly Shelly grill when I say Shelly

handles everything Shelly handles everything Shelly has the best job of any assistant I pay Shelly a six figure salary I pay the taxes on that salary I pay forlly a six-figure salary. I pay the taxes on that salary. I pay for her car. She pays no rent.

Shelly, all she pays, Shelly pays for her, the phone bill and food. She travels first class on me. And she's single. No, she ain't for you. Listen, listen, listen. She got, hey, hey, she got income. She got six-fig figure income and you paid it

That's all cash Shelly, where you at baby? Hit me up But, like I said But that's the thing, my team I'm not being able to function How am I going to do this? Ash handled most of the stuff, okay Shelly, this is what we got Blah, blah, blah, we're going to do this right this

CJ's going to handle the club, blah, Shannon, this is what we got. Blah, blah, blah. We're going to do this right there. CJ is going to handle the club. Shay, Shay, blah, blah, blah. Jordan handles all the social content. Man, I ain't got time to be worried about all that other stuff. My nine need to be free to focus on what I need to focus on. So I totally understand what Dame is going through. Yeah. So for me. Hey.

So I get it, Dame. I just but if I'm Dame, I say I call my soon to be ex. I say, look, I know we going through what we going through. And there is this is not a reconciliation. This is not about to get back. But would you be willing to move to Milwaukee to bring the boys? So I'll get you a place in the same neighborhood so I can see the boys every day? Bring my mom. Hey, mom, come on. Hey, mom, you're moving in.

What you laughing at, Ash? I don't know what you're saying. I mean, I'm over here laughing. What you laughing at, Ash? Oh, the comments? Hey, listen, hey, you named a wifey over there

and I'm like, oh, hey, no rent, car paid, foe. Nah, nah, ain't no rent. I do. No. Oh, she got a great life, but Shelly works extremely hard. She's on basically, like if something's going on, she's on call.

For the most nights, like, what if I ain't got nothing? But if I'm out of town, her phone is on do not disturb, but not with not Shannon's phone numbers. Not Shannon's phone numbers. When Shannon's out of town, she got to pick up that call. Now, if I'm home, don't even worry about it because I'm not going anywhere. So I don't need you to call me an Uber.

I don't need you to call a Lyft. I don't need you to check in on everything. But if I'm out of town, like I'm going out of town tomorrow, her phone is on do not disturb. Ain't nobody else going to be able to get her. But you better believe, I called that phone, she do not disturb. Ain't nobody else going to be able to get her. But you better believe. I called. That phone, she pick it up.

But that's the expectation that I have. Yeah. So the NBA Competition Committee has officially begun reviewing whether the game has become too advantageous for the offense and whether some changes need to be implemented to achieve better balance. Yeah. Yeah. No.

It is. No. You can try to change the three-point line. You can push it to the four-point line. There's nothing you can do to rewind it back. There's, what are you going to do, three seconds? Oh, we're going to put it in a two hand hand check I mean you want to

put in tackling what do you think is going to what are you going to put in that's going to do what what are you trying to do in this league take away you know you're going to do what you did the Allen Iverson take away his crossover so you're going to take away what you're going to do what you did to the Allen Iverson, take away his crossover.

So you're going to take away what you're going to call carry on some of the moves. You guys got to skill, not Gil. The only thing you can, the only thing you can do is all for Aryan. Yeah. Hand checking irrelevant.

Cause hand check is in under the free throw line. You can hand check. Obviously, it's not effective. Right. Yeah. Right. But hand checking is is a thing that everybody in the 80s and 90s. Remember, it left in 2004. So that means when Al Iverson was crossing, everybody coming through the lane, there was a hand check, irrelevant. When Vince Carter was sitting there dunking and doing all that, the hand check was there, irrelevant. When I won most improved, and I'm the youngest most improved, there was a hand check, irrelevant.

The only thing the hand check did was this, soon as I blow past Derek Fisher, he holds on by a hip, Shaq is standing there, and he shoves me in the Shaq, right, which was hurting players. So they took off the hand check from the top of the key when the guy's driving. But there's a hand check from below

the key, but it wasn't as dangerous because when I'm going baseline, it was hard for those big men to get planted where I could push them, so they usually just tried to jump and block. The hand check won't be there unless you're going to put back the 60s

hand check where it was two hands or the forearm. The guy used to use the forearm. The forearm and the hand, but guys are... You ain't going to be able... The dude is dribbling in front of you now. So you sit here trying to... How are you going to hand check a dude?

These guys are not turning their back to you anymore. No, no, no, no, no. That game is gone. So you can say three seconds. There's no three seconds. Which is going to be dumb. Because it's going to... If I can't get it laying, I'm going to chuck more threes.

Right. And that's what, and that's what, and that's what they're doing. The guys shoot the ball so well. Now you take the best shooters. And for the most part, there are two or three guys on the team that can shoot the ball like that. I mean, think about how many guys shooting for shooting 38 to 40% plus from the three point line.

Gil. Okay. how many guys shooting 38 to 40% plus from the three-point line, Gil? Okay, this is the difference. This is the difference today, right? Let's take we'll say, who you want to take from the 90s?

I always use the example of the 2004 Lakers, right? That super team, right? They had Gary Payton, Carl Malone. All five. So you got Gary Payton, can't shoot, right? Kobe made one three a game. That's it. One three a game. Deton, can't shoot, right? Kobe made one three a game. That's it. One three a game.

Devin George couldn't shoot. Karl Malone couldn't shoot past 15 feet, right? Then you had Shaq, right? So when Kobe wanted to go one-on-one, look how clogged the lane is, right? So he had to hit difficult shots. When Jimmy Butler goes one-on-one, when Jimmy Butler decides to go one-on-one,

he wrote, Tyler, he wrote, the number one score is on the floor. Right. The shooting guard, Duncan Robinson. Right. Shooter. The power forward, Kevin Love. Shooter.

Then you got Bam. Bam. if you decide to help lob if you decide that they they've gotten smarter to the point where they do not want you to help on the best player if you look at when she's going one-on-one look at the shooters that's on there you got a dude shooting 50 50 50 percent 55 percent some dudes shooting 48 percent shit chet chet is shooting 42 percent and he's the worst three point shooter on the team or 38 percent that's the guy you're leaving chet right but the problem was with the lakers even though devin george and some of those guys they were only getting like four chances a game so it's hard to get a rhythm when you only shoot five times a game. And those five ain't coming in one quarter.

You better space those five out. But that's what I'm saying. I got Gary Payton. What you think I'm doing? I'm not guarding you. I'm sitting here focusing on Kobe Bryant. Everybody going to focus on Kobe Bryant. And that's where the game was.

Everybody going to focus on Kobe Bryant. And that's where the game was. So what are you going to do today when everyone has decided, I need to protect my shooter. I need to protect my best player. So with my best player, I need to put all shooters around him so you can't guard him. That is where the game is today. I have a bunch of shooters so you can't guard him. And why do they game is today. I have a bunch of shooters, so you can't guard

him. Why do they keep talking about you need a raise, talking about you looking at the price of Cialis? Y'all do realize that Ashby coming up with most of these topics. Just so y'all know, y'all thinking it's me, it's Ash. She over there right now, talking about don't put

me in it, You in it. Hey, Adam Silver, listen, if you want to change the game and make it more, I guess, competitive in driving, turn the twos and the threes. Turn the threes and the twos.

All long shots is twos. All layups is threes. Because other than that, god damn it, just tell everybody. They too far gone now. Gil, I don't know if you know about this, but Ja Rule and 50 Cent continued their beef in 2024. Ja found

out that he would no longer be able to go on the UK leg of his Sunrise Tour due to past criminal record, despite being told by the UK promoter that it would be an issue. While the news would be understandably disappointing to some fans, decided to stroke the fame of the former

beat between Ja and 50 by trying to point the finger at many-man rapper for the reason Ja is being borrowed from New England. When 50 got wind of the online chatter, he responded to comment sections captured by Instagram TMZ saying, I got juice all over the place, sucker.

Man, feel it wild, bro. Feel it wild, man. Listen, I'm not even going to lie. Listen, we watch social media and people tell us, hey, you know, you need to, when we get older,

we want to reconcile with some of the relationships we do. There'll be sometimes like, man, you know, you need to, when we get older, we want to reconcile with some of the relationships we do. There'll be some times like, man, you know, I need to have a sit down with the mother of my children and just let this beef go. And then just when I'm getting ready to turn that corner,

and say, no, stand on business. Keep the party going. And I just, I just, it just makes me smile that I'm not the only one out there that just say, hey man, when it's, when it's said and gone,

when I'm, the only reason I'm going to stop this beef is when I'm dead and gone. Other than that, every time that man fuck up, I'm there. And that's what it is. And I'm here for it.

And you know what, if I can help in any possible way, if I can help him F it up, count your boy in. It just reassures me that I'm not the only one that's still immature about the beefs I have. Nah.

Nah, I'm not petty like that, man. You petty rucks when I see. Time for our last segment of the day, Q&A. Let's get to the graphics and see what Q&A is today. Matthew Sims says, finally, I got a bottle of Yak. I wanted the fancy box got bubble wrap instead still gonna drink it like a fish

all the boxes have officially been sold Matthew that was a limited release we did 25,000 of those boxes each bottle was numbered and so the reason why it comes like that now because we're no longer doing the

box so hopefully congratulations to all the people that purchased uh the original 25 000 bottles of uh a shade by la portia because moving forward there will be no more um no more uh boxes shade coming in a box so but thank you for purchasing it still same great taste still flavor still you're going to be able to see the love and effort that we put into every bottle just without the box. Wait, hold on. Hold on. Hold on.

What's up? You know me. Y'all got a million on this channel. Glove Shea Shea popping out the roof. Y'all get rid of boxes and you're going to bubble wrap. No, that's right. No. What happened was that was a collector's item, a collector's edition.

So what we did, the first 25,000 came in a wooden box and it was numbered. The bottles are all numbered, one, two, through 25,000. So that was always the original plan. We were never going to never gonna like moving forward continue the box it was a limited edition and once the twenty five thousand was gone now they're gonna come just like

it's just like uh I'm trying to think what it's like friends and family you know what I'm saying everybody gonna be able to get those shoes and once they go they go, they go. So basically now it's brown paper bag, y'all. Oh, yeah.

They're going to be able to. I mean, I think what we're going to do, like, maybe, maybe, maybe like cardboard, like if it's on the shelf in the stores. But for the most part, you just go grab the neck and you take it home. But we were never, we were never gonna, and I don't want people to think that we tried to pull a fast one over on you. We were never gonna do what we did in the beginning because we wanted it to be special.

We wanted the first 25,000 people that purchased, ordered, shaved out in the portier, they were going to get the box. They were going to get the wooden box and each one numbered. Now, if you notice, there is no more numbers on the neck of the bottle. So I thank you guys for selling out that 25,000. So that's where we are. What?

Bottles, huh? Huh? Bottles. huh? Huh? Bottles. Yeah. Yeah, we sold out. We sold out. Hey, hey, hey.

The people have really... But I think the thing was, look, I think sometimes when people think, like, they see a celebrity and he's, like, promoting, he's not really... No, I know about it. You know, we did a lot of uh r&d and developing the taste that we uh develop is a very premium uh the price is a little bit more than a typical bsop but i think what we put into it warrants the price the price point in which we're

at and i think look i haven't had anybody that's actually had it that says that, man, we did win the SIP award, which means we're the best tasting VSOP in the world. So I like our product. I would like for people to try it and let me know and compare it to other cognacs in the VSOP. We don't have an XO. We don't have an XXO, don't have an XXO but that's coming but we wanted to make sure that we streamlined and did everything we possibly could to make sure we were still producing the best VSOP

in the world and I think we're doing that and I think we're going to continue to do that so that's where we are with that but even though the boxes no longer come with Shea you're still going to get a great taste in cognac. Tony Baird says, why Shea mentioned KG talking about him speaking on LeBron on the juice?

What do you want me to say? That's, I mean, you have to be careful when you say stuff like that. Now, you best rather open yourself up to a lawsuit when you make accusations. You better rather open yourself up to a lawsuit when you make accusations. You know, the problem with this is, okay, 2004, that was the whole Balco thing. He was investigated for everyone who was on and got caught. Right.

He was cleared. He has NBA drug testing four times a year four times a year right so what is the point even in the new article it says he is not he isn't he was not using it what is the point of even talking about it be just because you want to put his name in it because you have to explain why a man is playing at this level for this length of time you have there has to be a reason because i couldn't play at this level after year 15 so how is he playing averaging 25 7 and 8 playing in year 21 how is he able to still do what he's doing so if g, Gil, you know how this works. If somebody can do something you

can't, we have to say he did it through shady means. That's what I get. I had to sell out my community. I had to do something. I had to do something because my podcast and my podcast are doing

better than most. Not all, but we do good. I think we put out great content. We got Terry Crews out. A lot of people like, man, you stepped down without a... No, hold on. At first, y'all said I was messy. I have somebody telling you their story.

Now, people after they're listening to it like, man, this might be one of your better ones. Same thing with Johnny Manziel. I'm not going to be defined by two moments. Two podcasts is not going to define Club Shea Shea because we've done too much good and we've

had too many comedians from J.B. Smooth to Jay Pharoah to Tommy Davidson to Michael Blackson to DC Youngfly. We've had a lot of great comedians. Sad the Entertainer, Earthquake. I'm not defined by two.

Obviously, with Cat and Monique, two podcasts is not going to define 112 episodes. That ain't going to happen. They say that we've never seen someone do this. Well, listen. Jordan was retired.

Right? Decided to come back in September. The season starts in October. Training camp starts in October. He decided to come back in September. That means from September 25th, he was ready for training camp October 1st.

At 38, 39, 39, 40, he averaged 20 both years drinking and smoking like normal. Right. Imagine if Jordan was training the whole summer to get ready for that season and actually took care of his body. He could have messed around and averaged 30. Right. So there was a human being that was doing that, but that human being wasn't even taking it serious. And he was averaging 20 points a game. But just think about if he wasn't smoking cigars and staying out late gambling.

Getting lit every day. And playing 18 holes of golf. So that, I mean, think about that. You're on your feet. Normally they tell athletes, get off your feet. You got a game tonight or you got a game tomorrow. Get off your feet. But Jordan's walking 18.

Sometimes he might play. Sometimes he might play 36. Or he's gambling in Atlantic City. He's smoking cigars. And I'm saying, so what LeBron has been able to do, it might offer an explanation for why he's played so long. Same thing with Tom Brady. I mean, look, he's like plant-based. You know, he ate certain things.

Liability was a thing. I just commend it. I'm not trying to figure out, man, I wonder what he's doing. I'm just enjoying it. Listen, I can tell you this, and I'm going to just say it. The era now, trust me, is more strict than the era before 2003. Before 2003, they tested us one time a year.

October 1st, we got tested. That means October 2, whatever we decided we wanted to do in life, we wasn't going to get until October 1st of the next year. However you want to take that, right? If you think

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Listen to The Insiders on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Upgrade Keats said last two minutes of the game of basketball will a vet referee in a league office overturn a game-changing bad call. Will that help? Love Gil's addition to Nightcap. Gil, here's the thing. Why can't I put a protest in?

When was the last time the NBA ruled, okay, you know, we hear your protest, so we're going to award the game to the team that lost? They do that every time. They put a petition to file a protest in the league. League's like, oh, they denied it. So why am I even wasting my time? Listen, you can't change. Listen, the problem with this is it's no different than any sport, right?

We have refs. We have playback to get people at ease that we're doing the best we can. This is human beings, this is not robots, right? We don't have sideline and special things on a court that helps, he was out of bounds like a bowling lane.

He stepped out, the ref didn't see it, but we got fly. There's none of that. So in real time, humans will make mistakes. The referees are going to miss calls. There's none of that. So in real time, humans will make mistakes. The referees are going to miss calls. They're going to call travels, miss travels, because at the end of the day, they're watching it also.

Right? Sometimes they get caught up in the moment too. Ooh, ooh, shake it. And then the lob comes. They're looking at the lob. They're not looking at if someone's getting fouled, if there's a hand won. They're in the moment in real time. Just like no player is going to make every shot. Nope.

All of us foul. We don't think we're getting fouled. We're bitching. They got a lot of things going on. But I can guarantee you one thing. You don't want them to blow every call that they see. If you wanted to go back to 1950 when two steps was a travel. Two steps was a travel.

Trust me, they can sit there and blow their whistle all day. It's going to look like six-row AAU. It's going to be a lot of travels and double dribbles. Cyan Johnson. LeBron has always beaten teams that are better than his. Can you name the team that Jordan beat that was much better than his?

I mean, I think if I'm not mistaken, Jordan was favored in every NBA final. I think LeBron has only been favored. I think they were'm not mistaken, Jordan was favored in every NBA final. Yeah. I think LeBron has only been favored. I think they were favored in the Mavs series. And I think they were favored in the Heat series. Oh, OKC.

Oh, yeah. OKC. Were they favored against OKC? OK. Yeah. Them young boys, they was favorite against them young boys um you know it you know what listen it ain't about it ain't it ain't it ain't about who's favorite and who's not you know at the end of the day you got to play against your competition

right you got to beat your competition destroy your competition you know this ain't about LeBron James and Michael Jordan. This is more about respect him for what he's doing. Stop comparing him to somebody else he can't compete with in certain stats. Jordan can't compete with him in certain stats, right? But you're enjoying his stats and fucking enjoy mine. That's all new players are are arguing yo stop comparing me to these guys because i can't do the things that they do because times are different but enjoy what i'm doing like you enjoyed when you was watching it

like how am i doing what i'm doing and I'm hated. That is the most strange thing going on. I'm out here training, doing this, studying the game. I'm over here talking to Michael Jordan trying to figure out how to do it. I'm evolving the game and you're looking at me like yeah, retire old man.

Gil, I think OKC was favored in that series. I think he was favored against the Mavs and I think he was favored against the Heat I think he's only been favored in Ash is going to look it up but you know the comparison is the thief of joy because a lot of times we get robbed of our own happiness

because we're thinking about we could be much more happy if we stop looking across the street and see what they had and what we didn't have so now I compare myself to what they have and I'm robbed of the joy that I could have because I see somebody else that might have something more. So that's what we like to do. And look, I've been to business. They ask me a question.

I have to answer it. I have to answer it as honest as I possibly can. And I base it on a number of factors. Yes, championships matter. Yes, MVPs matter. So does first team, all NBA. So does All-Star. So does the longevity.

So does, I mean, so there's a lot that goes into it. You just can't say, well, he did this, so he's the best. Nah, you have to have a lot of factors. And so for me, hey, everybody knows where I stand, but it's funny if I say something positive about LeBron,

Clutch is sending me checks. If I say something I don't agree with LeBron, he done go on road. Them checks must not come. Hey, thanks for standing up. How do I win? I can't win either way.

I wish Rich would send me out some checks. Same with me. That's just like anything, right? But I ask the people this, whoever you go for and you rooting for, do they give you checks? If the answer's no, then shut up too then. Yeah.

Oh, oh, man, you be glazing, man. You be riding hard. You be riding. So what y'all doing for Jordan? What y'all doing for Kobe? Oh, oh, so only people that root for Jordan. I said, oh, oh, so only people that root for Jordan. I said, oh, oh, okay. I'm sorry, excuse me.

Only people that root for LeBron meet Rod. So y'all that rooted for Kobe and root for Jordan, what y'all doing? Oh, man, we just cheering them on, bro. We ain't like that. I said, well, hold on. So if I root for LeBron, first of all, let me tell you how I became a LeBron fan. I was a Kobe fan. So I had Kobe.

Burns, my best friend, had LeBron. Okay. He from the DMV. So he knows about Kevin Durant. So I got Kobe. He got LeBron. So he wants Kevin Durant. So, I got Kobe, he got LeBron. So, he wants Kevin Durant.

So he tell me, I tell you what I do, homeboy. If you let me come, I got the next superstar to come out. I got the next one. So,

if you let me, if you let me have Kevin Durant, I give you LeBron. I said, let me get this right. I'm going to get. I give you LeBron. I said, let me get this right. I'm going to get to have Colby and LeBron. And you want Kevin Durant.

Yeah. I said, okay. So now I, I got Colby and LeBron to cheer for. He get Kevin Durant. So that's how I became, obviously I knew when LeBron, because

check this out, he came in in 03, he got drafted on my birthday, June 26th. His first All-Star game was in Denver. I was there. That's the one Josh Smith won the dunk contest. So that's how I got

to be LeBron. So that's how I became a fan of LeBron because he wanted Kevin Durant because Kevin was from his neck of the woods so now I got Kobe and LeBron but as time went on I'm like okay LeBron my guy I still rooted for Kobe

but LeBron was my guy so that's how we choose our that's how we choose our, that's how we choose our superstars. Yeah. Who we get to root for. What we got?

Dr. Oh, Braun wasn't favored versus the Thunder. He was favored in 2011 versus the Mavs, 2013 versus the Spurs, and 2020 versus the Heat.

Who wrote that? The, the, what you call the odds makers. I'm going to tell you right now, Vegas took y'all money if y'all really thought,

OKC, them young boys that had no experience, that did the same thing as the Miami Heat, run up and down, run up and down, was actually favorite. That was the trick. We just got out of the Miami Heat. Run up and down. Right. Run up and down was actually favorite. That was the trick. We just got out of the lockout, right?

We just came from the lockout, and everybody was pushing the small ball, the small city teams. So everybody was jumping on the OKC. I even told, asked Dave Minerman when you see him, I said, if I'm the NBA, I will let OKC win the first game. Everybody's going to go crazy. Oh, this. And then Miami just going to sweep the rest of them.

That's exactly what it is. Gentlemen sweep. OKC won. Coming out of lockout. Small market team. And then LeBron, them going to beat LeBron and give him his first championship. I've always been about the business. I've always been about the business. I've always been about the business. If you ask Dave

when you see him, say the 2010-11, ask what did Gilbert say before that? He was like, he said, he will let OKC win the first one, let the lockout and the small market teams feel like they got one. Everybody jumps on the OKC train

and then let Miami do what Miami do and mop them up. What do we got? 4KT, you know more about basketball than former NBA players. You play football. That's never seen before. Look, I think to be good at something, Gil, you got to watch a lot of it. And see, for me, I think the best thing to help me, Gil, is that I watch a lot of it and i see for me i think the best thing

to help me gill is that i don't listen to basketball game with the sound so i'm not contaminated by what they're gonna say what you hear me say is i'm giving you my honest opinion and over the years i know what a pin down and i know what the dunker spot is and i know what a flare and i hear hearing guys talk about flopping for four out. And so I hear all of that. So I'm like, okay, that's what that is. Okay, we, okay, you're at a flair and a run through. Okay. So I, but

you can't listen. If you're trying to learn something and you listen to the sound, you're going to be contaminated by what you heard the professionals say and you're going to repeat what they say. And I didn't want to do that. No, that is true. And I always tell people,

sometimes you got to listen to it without it sounds, so you're watching it with your imagination because when you're hearing somebody, it's an announcer. That announcer played, and if he did play, his perspective is not updated. Like this,

when TNT, Charles Barkley, and Shaq and them talk, remember when they played. Chips and monitors wasn't in when they played. Right. Right? They wasn't load managed. Right? When you hear like J.J. Redick and them speak and talk about load management. Remember, they wasn't load management either.

They wasn't the type of players. They had to practice every practice is what I'm saying, right? Iverson don't got to practice. The rest of them got to practice. So when they talk about certain things, they wasn't those type of guys. Even when I heard Shaquille O'Neal talk about, if I would have known that I can just jump in super team, I would have went to the Bulls. Cap, stop.

Stop this shit. Because people are taking, like, Shaquille O'Neal, Shaquille O'Neal, they're taking for what you're saying is real. That is not real. The cap wouldn't even allow you to go to the Bulls. You was a free agent signing $1066 million the bulls didn't want you they just signed jordan for 30 million dollars they couldn't afford you right it was the champions it was the best team jerry kraus didn't want no shaquille o'neal you went to la for you went to the highest bidder. Stop saying stop. Stop.

You know what I mean? But when we get older, you know, we forget the things that we have revisionist history. We have revisionist history. Dr. Frankie L. Bellamy said, Hey, Uncle Gil, love the shirt. What you think? What I think it is. Please let us

see. Look at the shirt right there! Ha ha ha ha! That's what I'm talking about! Hey! Yeah, that was up. You know, we gotta support the guy, the Nightcap.

We do have merch coming out in about six weeks. I think the Nightcap merch is going to come out. No, Club Shea Shea merch comes out beginning of April. Nightcap's going to come out around the beginning of May. So we do have merch coming out, guys. So thanks for being patient. Thanks most importantly for the support that's what's most important um yeah we loved it we think we got some good quality products coming out

and we appreciate your support but the support you've shown us through uh youtube watching uh the audio downloads and listening uh myself ocho and gill we greatly greatly appreciate that so we're gonna keep trying to give you great content and Gil, we greatly, greatly appreciate that. So we're going to keep trying to give you great content, and we greatly appreciate your support. Traveling Tony said, brought my wife land in Africa, past Port Brook. He said, oh, he purchased

Traveling Tony, he said he purchased his wife land in Africa. Wow, that's unbelievable. What an anchor hitting for? I think I want to go on the water. I think I want to go on the water. I think I want to be on the water. Do I strike you as a water guy? No, you strike me as a wood shitting in the woods.

Buttnick is in the woods. Somewhere in Montana. No, I'll be in the woods I had 20 years in the woods I'm good with the woods I'm done with the woods I don't know I don't know I mean

I do sometimes wonder what it would be like to hear the the rustling of the water just slap it up against the rocks. It's soothing. I'm normally waking up trying to shake the covers for, you know what I'm saying?

That was bustling. The headboard. Let's go ahead and get one of those nightcap islands. Nightcap island, baby. Maybe I'll be able to uh maybe uh i'll get me a little place up in malibu no ash hell no what you got over there oh it ain't even worth it oh it ain't even working up it ain't worth it nah that's too expensive out there for no reason oh Oh, man, hold on. A $16 million California mansion

is on the verge of falling into the ocean. The owner is refusing to leave. The 82-year-old says the house is fine, isn't worried about it falling into the ocean. I'm good. Hell, you say. I ain't good. Hey, they tell me a tree about to fall in my house.

I'm moving. Don't worry about in my house, I'm moving. Don't worry about cutting it down. I'm out. I'll let the next owner worry about the tree. Man. But, no, Gil, I think I can get probably about, I think I can get like 2,000 square feet for like, I don't need no big mansion in Malibu.

I just need something to go, you know, lay my head, get away from everything, Gil. I mean, 2,000 square feet, that's 10 million. No, no, I can get cheaper than that. I ain't saying I got to be right on the water. I just need to be able to see the water. Oh, okay, okay, okay, okay. All right, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Hey, Austin, they got no damn water, Ash. No man-made-ass lakes in Texas. You tell me she's talking about a lake. I really ain't trying to see no alligator, Ash. No man-made-ass lakes in Texas. She's talking about a lake. I really try to see the alligator, Ash. I really not. Maybe some nights, you don't see the dolphins jumping up and down in the water. She want me to be fighting off alligators in a

paddle boat. Please make sure y'all hit that like like button please make sure you hit the subscribe button uh thank you for joining us for another episode of nightcap please please make sure you subscribe to the nightcap podcast feed thank you for selling out shade by laporte we do have it back in stock um and and the orders will only take somewhere between 7 and 10 days. Also, please make sure you like and subscribe to Gil's Arena channel on YouTube. He has a show that airs Monday through Thursday,

live, 11.30 a.m. Pacific time. His show airs Monday through Thursday, live, 11.30 a.m. Pacific time. Also, you can subscribe to his personal youtube page no chill gill let's please make sure you like and subscribe to gill's personal youtube page no chill gill let's get those subs up the lakers come back from down by as many as 21 points scored 39 points in the fourth quarter thanked to 19 by lebron goat James, the Clippers scored 16 points. LeBron James outscored the Clippers single-handedly by himself.

He finished the night with 34 points, eight assists, six rebounds, 19 in the fourth got, uh, he had 19 points, five made threes. The Clippers had 16 points,

one made three and perk and Sinead, a boomer. Okay. Yes. Kendrick Perkins and Chanelanae Abumake. They really upset at me right now, but I got a little something for them when I see them next week. And Stephen, I told you, you keep

on sleeping on Go James, you gonna keep losing. I'm a man. I'm about to get me the biggest. I'm gonna have me a T-Rex leg steak. I already want no tomahawk. You know what I'm saying? I want no tomahawk. I want an axe. You know, I want an axe steak.

You know, they got the tomahawks that serve, too. I want a steak so big they serve a party of 12. Yeah, what about Bronner's Hard Leg? Yeah, that's what I'm looking for, Steve. So, again, thank you for joining us for Nightcap, another edition. I'm your favorite thunk, Shannon Sharp. He's your favorite number zero Arizona Wildcat legend. Many say he's the greatest Wildcat player.

Look at this right here. Whoo! Look what I broke out right there, y'all. What size you wear? 13. Yeah, I need to go. Yeah, OK. Hey, how them look right there, guys?

Y'all like that? Yeah, y'all like that? Tell me what y'all think about those right there. Ooh. Man, that was nice. Yeah, you know a little something, a little something. Hey, Ash, how you doing? Ash, I done paid off your debt. I bought you another pair of shoes.

Yes, I did. That texture is alligator skin, y'all. So, thank you for joining. Go ahead, Gil. What you got? All the finest. Huh? I said all the finest alligators.

That was alligator skin? Yeah, yeah. I killed a gatorest. Huh? I said all the finest alligators. I was alligator skin. Yeah, yeah. I killed a gator myself. Woo. Trapped him down there. Trapped him down there in Texas. Thank you for joining us. Thanks, Gil, for joining us tonight for another episode of Nightcap Basketball Style.

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