Club Shay Shay - Nightcap - Hour 2: C.J. Stroud clears the air, Shohei Ohtani joins 50/50 club, Brett Favre loses appeal

Episode Date: September 20, 2024

Shannon Sharpe & Chad "Ochocino" Johnson discuss the awkward postgame tension between Houston Texans' C.J. Stroud and Chicago Bears' Caleb Williams. Later, Unc and Ocho react to Los Angeles Dodger...s' Shohei Ohtani becoming the first MLB player to join the 50/50 club, Shannon Sharpe defeats Brett Favre in defamation suit appeal and much more!03:17 - Devin McCourty on Bill Belichick05:18 - CJ Stroud on Caleb Williams14:41 - Andy Reid; Pacheco to IR19:12 - Jim Harbaugh quote22:46 - Soccer Cap26:33 - Shohei Ohtani 50/50 club37:24 - Update on Farve case44:45 - Que and Ayeeeeee(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:04:36 night before the game. And he grabs all the corners and he grabs me and he says, hey, when we're running down this sideline, the way the wind pattern is in our stadium, going towards the open end, the wind whirls like this. So the ball's going to look like it's going further than what it is, but it's going to hit that wind and it's just going to drop. So when you're running on this side, make sure you turn around and get your head back. I remember sitting there like, really do the wind pattern? And sure enough, I get a go ball get a, a go ball on that side against
Starting point is 00:05:06 Braille and Edwards. I turn and then I look back at him. And then I remember like what Bill said, I turned my head back, ball drops right in my lap, get an interception. From that point on, there was nothing the guy could tell me that I would be like, Nope, I, I believe in everything. I was drinking a Kool-Aid heavy after that. You know, old metal lands, everybody knows there's a win and you have to play the open end to win the world a different way. And the quarterbacks knew it. It's kind of like certain areas like there was a field outro and that there's a dip in
Starting point is 00:05:34 the field. It's like, man, when you're on this side, there's a dip in the field. So just be careful. Yeah. Coach Belichick having played, he was the coordinator for the Giants. Also remember he was at the Jets. So he had been in that he had been in that stadium for so long. So he knew he knew.
Starting point is 00:05:54 I remember I remember that plan is planned plan as well. We had the same thing. And what Carson would do when we were on that side of the field, you're on that hash, the D and E deep balls. He won thrown him. Yeah. You, we want you want throw you want thrown in that way. I remember that. So that story, that story is correct.
Starting point is 00:06:09 So there was no no bull drive. And it was it was a cut to the gate, right? It's open. Yes. It's open. Yeah. Mm hmm. I remember that. CJ Stroud denied his intention was to little bro Caleb Williams during the postgame interaction in week two.
Starting point is 00:06:26 He explained how older players approached him on the field last year to offer helpful advice. So he wanted to pay it forward. Oh, Joe, let's take a listen to the sound Caleb and CJ. Yes, sir. That I was trying to like little bro here. He knows that too. I told him I respect that.
Starting point is 00:06:40 But I had so much so many guys come to me after games last year. That meant the world meant guys coming to me after games last year. And that meant the world to me, that those guys even thought about getting me advice. So I just try to get back to what the game was giving me. So I wish him the best, man. I want him to do amazing in this league. I think he will. I think that he'll get his groove.
Starting point is 00:07:02 And once you get your rhythm, I didn't give my rhythm until like week three, week four. So I can see him, his think that he'll get his groove. Once you get your rhythm, I didn't get my rhythm until like week three, week four. So I can see him, his game, picking up from here. And so, and I don't think he was trying to be any towards the way he is, I'm just upset that they lost. I totally understand. So I have a ton of respect for that guy, man. I want him to do extremely well, just like any other guy, until we play on that day.
Starting point is 00:07:23 You know what I mean? After the game, we can be cool. You know what I mean? But I'm definitely rooting for him and I want to see him do extremely well. Is everything we try to show somebody up on Joe, is that where we are now? I mean, I kind of understand though. You know, I mean, you got gotta put yourself in Caleb Williams shoes, you know, I'm going against the number one quarterback.
Starting point is 00:07:48 You know, that's my partner, you know, whether you know each other or not, I'm just coming off a bad game though. I'm just coming off a bad game, you know? And at that time with cameras rolling, with you mic'd up, you know, with you telling me, you know, wanting to, you know, not make certain plays or telling me I need to make certain plays or certain throws at that time when everybody's
Starting point is 00:08:09 listening and watching can be, I think it could be a little uncomfortable. Even with CJ Stroud's intentions, not being that just that I think the timing and the setting of doing so would maybe a little wrong, you know, that's all. That's all. But I can, I can kind of see both sides. Cause when it comes to Stroud, you know, Stroud intentions, he's authentic as it gets right. Yeah, I'm talking about authentic.
Starting point is 00:08:31 If you don't if you don't know him yet, you know, if you know his history, you know, I didn't know Stroud for a little minute, you know, he grew up with my son out there in L.A. now, you know, so I'm talking about when I talk about authentic as it as it get, you know, and you won't know until you actually meet him in person and talk to him. So I know he meant nothing by what he was trying to do. His intentions were pure in the message he was trying to give Caleb, but I can understand Caleb coming off a loss after a game, feeling a certain way about
Starting point is 00:08:57 losing the game and having a bad game. And just the timing might've been just off a tad bit. So that's why you can, you can see the mannerisms of of him listening and then trying to pull away and then try out trying to engage again. And it feeling like, like, like, come on, man. I get it. And that's why I don't think I don't even offer any advice. I don't offer.
Starting point is 00:09:22 I don't try to mentor. If you want to reach out, I'll reach out. I'll respond. I'll return. I'll call you back or somebody get in touch. Say, man, such as I try to reach offer any advice. I don't offer. I don't try to mentor. If you want to reach out, I'll reach out. I'll respond. I'll return. I'll call you back or somebody get in touch. Say, man, such as I try to reach out to you. OK, hey, he gives information because that's why. That's what me the way I took it, man, when them guys would walk up to me like, damn, little sharp, you're going to be like a big bro. Huh?
Starting point is 00:09:40 Man, that bit the world of me. I'll try and catch with one pass. But somebody saw something in me that made them that I could be like my big brother. Right. I don't care if you ain't nobody. If you're a day older than me, you could offer me some advice. You offer me words of encouragement. I'm good. You tell me. Yeah, I ain't I've never been to it to proud
Starting point is 00:10:01 to receive info that I believe can be beneficial. So that's why I'm in CO2. That's why I don't. Man, you should have mentor asked. I ain't stepping on nobody's toes because for that very reason, everybody think you're trying to sell them. Everybody, everybody don't want Shannon's assistant. Everybody don't want Shannon to help.
Starting point is 00:10:19 If they want it, they'll reach out. That's why I am on that situation. So, guys, there are a lot of guys. I never mentioned a name. If they want to mention it, they'll reach out. That's where I am on that situation. So guys, there are a lot of guys, I never mentioned their name. If they wanna mention it, they'll mention it. Talk to them a lot. Hey, do I stay up? Do I go?
Starting point is 00:10:33 Hey man, you've been through this blah, blah, blah. Hey, you have to understand what it's like here. You're never gonna be as well as thought of there. X, Y, and Z. Hey man, you're doing great. You know, travel, reach out, nephew, reach out. What you think what you see? Man, this is what I'm looking at this, what I just what I see.
Starting point is 00:10:54 And from the time I had a relationship, I felt he made me feel if I saw something in his game, right, I could reach out and tell him. Mm hmm. You got a phone. Hey. This is what I'm seeing. game, right? I can reach out and tell it. You got a phone. Hey, this is what I'm seeing. But everybody's not receptive like that. Everybody, you know, I ain't trying to be your big brother. I'm not trying to be anything. I'm trying to offer you some advice. So where I do it, if you want the advice, you reach out. If you don't, I'm cool. No, no, no, bro. It's cool. Yeah, it's cool.
Starting point is 00:11:26 But listen, I see both sides. Yeah, I see both. But I know one thing. I know a lot of people might not be on Caleb's side right now. They might be talking trash, you know, some of the some of the punters, some of the some of the analysts, you know, saying some things, what not, because of because of his play, you know, and throwing interceptions,
Starting point is 00:11:46 making air and throws. I know one thing, when that young brother figures it out, understands the pace of the game, the flow of the game, catches that rhythm, when Caleb William catches that rhythm and the speed of the game and the game starts to slow down to him and he's able to process information, boy it's gonna be hell. Yeah, that's the idea with anything. He got all the tools.
Starting point is 00:12:14 Oh yeah, he can do it all. He's got an arm, he can run, throw on the run. But it's like in this digital space, you know guys reach out, I sit down and have a conversation with him. I said, well, I kind of did it like this and so forth and so on. And I say, you're kind of in a similar situation. I say, because you know, you're somebody fast, but you got to work at it now. I said, now, if you just try to get in this to do, I said, what, what, what actually are you trying to do? Right. Because if you're not going to devote the time.
Starting point is 00:12:48 What good is it? I see, bro, you got to spend time. I see you don't understand how much time my team spends that, you know, actually, I mean, I have an idea. That's one thing about your phones don't do not disturb except for one number. And so when that number and sometimes that number calls at midnight. And if you didn't know better, you swear she was, she was expecting me to call because she's wide awake and sometimes that conversation might be five minutes.
Starting point is 00:13:16 And sometimes it might be an hour and 35 minutes, but she's listening to what I have to say, because at the end of the day, we're trying to make Nightcap as good as we possibly can. Pass this information along to Ocho's producer, so forth and so on. Same thing with CJ. We're looking at, okay, who can we get that's gonna be engaging, who's gonna be entertaining, got a great story to tell?
Starting point is 00:13:42 That's what we're trying to do. We're trying to create content that we think our viewing audience, our listening audience, that they want to hear. That's what that's what we try to do. We study the trend. We try to stay above it or in it. Never fall behind it. We're looking at numbers and we're seeing what we need to do in order. And and, you know, we listen, we see comments and we listen.
Starting point is 00:14:05 How can we give them what we want? But at the end of the day, it's on canot show. We gotta be true to who we are. Yes. We want to please our fan base. We want to please the, the people that subscribe, people that watch people that purchase our merchandise. But at the end of the day, you have to be Ocho. I have to be on with two different people, but we're striving for the same thing. So yeah, a lot of times people reach out and you know, when you explain to them what it takes, it's, I said, it's, it's not easy. I mean, it's like trying to be at a get it a late try.
Starting point is 00:14:38 I mean, it's like trying to get it. It's like, okay, I'm going to compete with Apple. Well, they got, they got 400 billion in cash. They spent a lot of the. Speaking of Apple, you know, I was I was with Tim Cook, Tim Cook late on. I mean, it early this evening and they were doing an unveiling of the iPhone 16. You got what?
Starting point is 00:15:01 And they gave me they gave they gave me iPhone 16 Pro Max, whatever you call it. I'm excited though. I'm excited to open this up. I don't know. I'm going backwards. I think I'm about to get me a flip phone. I'm done with that. I'm done.
Starting point is 00:15:15 Yeah, yeah, bad, bad day. They got me running scared. Oh, you shut up. I see. I think Motorola got a flip phone that you can fold up and put it in your pocket like a billfold. That what I'm looking for. There you go.
Starting point is 00:15:31 That'll work. If I give you another phone, I ain't gonna have no Instagram on it. I ain't gonna have no apps on it. Just a phone. There you go. That'll work. Yeah, man.
Starting point is 00:15:41 They got me running scared, Ocho. Ocho, Andy Reed says, Isaiah Pacheco is headed to our to have surgery and there have no timeline said it could be the season or next. Excuse me. Should chiefs fans be panicking? Oh, absolutely not. Absolutely not. Listen, if you understand the running back position where players are replaceable,
Starting point is 00:16:06 now there's nothing wrong with Pacheco, but you know, there's a, there's an upper echelon of running backs, your Alvin Kamara's, your Christian McCaffrey's, your Nick Chubbs, your, your, your Derek Henry's. Yeah. I think Pacheco would be in the tier two. Yeah. Correct me if I'm wrong. He would be in the tier two of, you know, the position.
Starting point is 00:16:23 So filling in that position or having someone else fill that role that Pacheco does, it would be easier to do. And I mean that in a respectful way. It just, it is what it is. You can find someone else to put in that position that can give you that same production. Well, they got Kareem Hunt coming back and before he, you know, got in trouble,
Starting point is 00:16:44 he was as good at running and catching the football as they had. Yeah. Um, you remember that outstanding rookie season? I mean, his first game, he did a number on coach Belichick and coach Belichick, I think went to the center field, say, son, you got a hell of a career in front of you. And he had a little mishap. He got some, since you got in some trouble and he ended up, if I'm not mistaken, I think they released him and he ended up signing with Cleveland had a couple of good years there.
Starting point is 00:17:07 But I think the thing is, I'll tell you a thing about it. You lose Pacheco and you saw the cheese last year in the playoffs. And this year they started to run the ball a little bit more. Now you've already out Hollywood guy used count loan. So that's two weapons. Now, remember, they benched their left tackle. They're kind of picking up, starting up. They benched it.
Starting point is 00:17:30 So now you bench your left tackle. Your other guy that came in, he got two penalties. He held on the wind. No Hollywood, no Pacheco. At some point in time, you know, well, who's the biggest threat to the chiefs? The chiefs and injuries. who's the biggest threat to the chiefs, the chiefs and injuries. That's the biggest threat. You can't keep losing these good ass players. Oh, next
Starting point is 00:17:50 man up. If the next man was so good, he'd have been up. Yep. Or he wouldn't have had the, no, if the next man was so good, he would have already been up there. Exactly. He'd be the guy. And this is the funny thing. This is the funny thing about the Patriots. I'm talking about the Patriots. This is a funny thing about the Chiefs.
Starting point is 00:18:08 Last year, they had issues. Yes. Everybody dropping the balls. Nobody throw the ball to offensively. They stunk. They were stinking up the house. November in the month of October. They were very, very good at getting over adversity and just keep on chopping wood and chopping wood and chopping wood. And I think it's going to be the same thing again, because as well as you know, when you
Starting point is 00:18:38 have a quarterback like that, of that caliber, no matter what turmoil is going on around you and your team, as long as you have that centerpiece in place, you will always have a chance to win. Well, Trav is going to have to pick it up. I mean, I think he got what? Three, four catches for 39 yards. That ain't going to cut it, Ocho. Yeah. Rashid Rice is giving, you know, he's taking that next step. He's playing unbelievable. I mean, the way he finished the last half of the season, post season, okay.
Starting point is 00:19:08 He picked right up. He picked right where he left off at. He picked right up. Now, we need Trav to go along with that. Well, you know, they got to give him the ball, man. Yeah. They got the ball, you know, have some play, have some special plays called it for him. And depending on who they're playing, he's going to have games where he's going to go
Starting point is 00:19:28 slap ass off. And then then you're going to play some teams that can be like, you know what, we take you away no matter what. Right. You take it. You know, we W no matter what, no matter where you go. And then obviously everyone else is going to have to do what they need to do. Rashid Rice, Xavier Worthy, he's going to have to go off.
Starting point is 00:19:44 He has to go off and he need to make him pay early. Xavier need to make him pay early. Yeah. So that's that's that's where I am on that. I think the thing is for them is that it needs to be a situation where do you guys going to have to step up to see what what Kareem Hunt can do? Maybe they go out and get Jeff McKinnon because he's unbelievable. He can run the ball. He's better in the passing game.
Starting point is 00:20:06 Great at blocking great special teams player. Um, so it'd be interesting to see how that works out for them. Uh, wish up a check or speedy recovery. Jim Harbaugh is back delivering great football moments and quotes. Let's take a listen to him giving props to his coaching staff. Would you? Uh, he's just, he's just a great, he's a great coach. I mean, one of the best I've ever been around.
Starting point is 00:20:27 Um, you know, like Moses, I'm going to, I'm going to die leaning on my staff. Uh, right. Roman, Jesse Minner, Ryan Fick, and those coordinators are, you know, my opinion, the, some of the best in the business. You like that? You see Greg Roman? Remember Greg Romans was his brother, John. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:50 Yeah. You see his D coordinator, his former D coordinated Michigan was the D coordinator last year for the last couple of years for his brother. John got a head coaching job in Seattle. You see, you see how, see how they take it. One hand, one hand, lift the other always. And that the coaching circle is so tight knit. Yes.
Starting point is 00:21:19 Thing on who, you know, it's not, it's not what you know is who, you know, especially in that area. If you look at the umbrella of where some of the coaches come from and then it expands out and they all get their opportunities. You know, you go from D coordinator, the officer coordinator, the head coach,
Starting point is 00:21:36 and you know, everybody. But at some point, everyone always keeps a job and you always bring your brother with you. Yeah. Look at Mike McDonald. Look at Mike McDonald, Mike McDaniel style. Guarantee at some point in time, they was associated with Kyle Shanahan.
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Starting point is 00:26:49 Now it's time for soccer cap. Ocho, it's your time to shine. Okay, okay, okay, okay. That's me, that's me, that's me, that's me. Let me go to my little script real quick. Let me go to my little script I gotta read. Let me go to my little script. Chat, y'all listening? Let me go to my little script.
Starting point is 00:27:10 Chat, y'all listening? I know I got a lot of people in the chat that love soccer, so we got our own little segment. You ready? Starting off, Paramount Plus is your home for the UEFA Champions League. The best club soccer tournament is back and it's bigger, better, and bolder than ever. That's right, the biggest event in all of club soccer returns with the whole new format. And this year, the champion's league is giving us more match days, more epic matchups and more unforgettable moments. The world's most beautiful game. We're talking Manchester city, Real Madrid, Barcelona, enter an AC Milan,
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Starting point is 00:28:07 exclusively on Paramount plus. Here at the paramount plus dot com slash live sports and sign up today. For those of you that didn't see the games Arsenal played at that Lantha. Obviously it was a draw draw. Nobody scored Arsenal six shots on goal. Six shots and go only two on target at Atlanta. Eight shots on goal. Only two that were on target.
Starting point is 00:28:33 Both teams had about around the same possession. Arsenal had about 46% possession at the Atlanta had 54% possession. Pass accuracy was the same. Fouls were almost about the same. Um, all sides to blah, blah. That's, that's that matters. Not listening. The game ended up in the tide of the draw.
Starting point is 00:28:56 It's very, very early in the tournament as a terminate goes on further and further. It will get better and better, especially for those of you that are gamblers. You already know what to do. Second game of the day was at Lethal Madrid and left RB Leipzig. Hold on, hold on, hold on. At that time, Madrid beat Leipzig to one and Tonyo, Antoine Griezmann scored in the 28th minute. Jose Maria Jimenez scored in the ninth minute. Listen, Atletico Madrid had 21 shots on goal. They had 21 shots on goal, only four on target. But that, those, that's, that's for those of you that play
Starting point is 00:29:37 the game of FIFA or play EAFC, those are that, those kinds of numbers. RB Leipzig had one, one goal from Benjamin Sessco in the fourth minute. They only had seven shots on goal. Obviously, I let Madrid dominate the ball on in all phases of the game, midfield in the final third. And Athletic of Madrid are unbeaten across their last 11 UEFA Champions League matches, obviously, after winning today. And that's the second longest streak ever in the competition
Starting point is 00:30:08 after 13 match streak between October 2017 to December 20th. And that is it for our Soccer Cap tonight. Don't forget next Tuesday and Wednesday, Champions League is back. Paramount Plus. That was soccer cap with George Truly Ocho single. Now the game of the night show, hey, show time.
Starting point is 00:30:38 Oh, Tony, just had one of the greatest performance in MLB history. He went six or six, Ocho three home runs, two doubles or singles, 10 RBI. If I'm not mistaken, he's the 16th guy to have 10 RBI's in a game. I think Mark Whitten has the record. He had four home runs in a game and he had 12 RBI's. I think that's the record with the St. Louis Cardinals. And he had four runs scored, two stolen bases.
Starting point is 00:31:02 He became the first player in MLB history to reach the 50-50 club. Now he has 51 stolen bases, 51 homers. Ocho, what do you think about Showtime Shohei Otani? Listen, Showtime Shohei Otani is doing something that has never been done before. It's never been done before, but the funny thing about it is a story
Starting point is 00:31:26 that nobody will believe, but I do have video evidence of me doing something similar like to this when I played for Liberty City Optimist Baseball Club. You know, I played baseball when I was young now. Probably back from handy. Let me see how you bat, hold your bat up, let me see. Okay. Hold on, hold on man. So you know now. Hold on.
Starting point is 00:31:48 Let me let me let me let me show you now. You can see me. Yeah, I see you. Hey, tell me you're gonna throw the pitch. I throw it right now. Strike. I throw it right now. Strike, the ball already glowed, the catcher throw it back to me. No, no, no, no, that's gone. That was a home run right there.
Starting point is 00:32:14 That was a home run, we. Listen, hey, I was a five-tooler when I was eight years old now. Yeah. I was a five-tooler. Yeah, they say you was a gardener. You did landscaping, you had a hole, a rake, some hedges, an edge, and a lawn mower. Those are the tools you had. I had the Marlins. The Marlins was looking at me. The Marlins was looking at me. The Black Marlins?
Starting point is 00:32:37 Coming out of high school. And no, I'm talking about the Florida Marlins. Oh, okay. I thought you were talking about the fish. No, no, no, no, no. I'm talking about the Florida Mound. No, they were trying to draft me out of high school to play baseball because I was a five-tooler. I hit 30 and 30 at 10 years old. I had 30 home runs and 30 stolen bases. So that's why, you know, seeing Ohtani have a 50-50, that's an amazing feat.
Starting point is 00:33:02 But if I was able to do it at 12 years old, imagine if I went to the big leagues and then choose football, I would have probably done it there before he did. Yeah. I don't know. You might have 50 inside the park home, brother. I don't know if you hit it. I don't know if you hit it on the fifth night. Show. Hey, I voted up to remember when Kinsale was the first to do it. He had 40, 40. And I think it was in the late 80s, I think, 88, 86, something like that around there when he did it.
Starting point is 00:33:30 And obviously, Barry Bonds did it, A-Rod did it, Jose, Ronald Lacuna did it, Junior did it last year. I think he had 40 home runs, over 40 home runs and 70 steals. I mean, he's a modern day Babe Ruth. Now, I'm not, because I think this had 40 home runs over 40 home runs and 70 steals. I mean, he's a modern day Babe Ruth. Now, I'm not gonna, because I think this is the first time that they've really allowed,
Starting point is 00:33:51 because there are also a lot of great players that came in the pictures that could hit in college. But once they, oh yeah, yeah, there are a lot of great pictures that could hit in college. But once they became pictures in the majors, they cut it out. He said, because he's like, I'm only gonna go somewhere that you gonna let me do both.
Starting point is 00:34:11 I have a question. I'm glad you said that. Now, you know, I don't watch much baseball. So now you put me up on game. Now I didn't know there were actually pitchers that could also slug just as good. Oh, in college? Oh, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:34:22 Oh, absolutely. Oh yeah, yeah. Occasionally you'll see them come in and they'll pitch it. Hold on. But are they as efficient as he is at both? He's efficient as a pitcher and he's efficient as a slugger. At the same time, are they are in college? Yes, in college. Yes. Yes. OK, it didn't translate to the pros, though. No, because they make them choose one or the other.
Starting point is 00:34:45 Now they come in and do pitch hit. Now if you went to the national league before they got the DH, yeah, you could, you know, you had to hit. Okay. Okay. In the American league, the pitchers never hit because you had to DH. But now that you have the DH in both leagues, it's a different story.
Starting point is 00:34:58 But yeah, there were pitchers that absolutely could crush it. Right. But when you throw a 98, you throw it 100 miles an hour. Now, bro, you only go do one. You choose and pictures make the most pictures making bread. And you only work in every five days, Ocho. But think about think about this, though. Shea Hill got 10 years, 700 million. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:21 So think about players coming out of college that know they can pitch and can also slug. Now they can make the decision to say, you know what, listen, if I'm coming to your team, I want to be able to do both. So I'm a, I'm a that much more value to you because I can do more. I don't even, I don't, I'm not so sure they still, I mean, yeah, I mean, I don't know if they let pitchers hit like they once did. I mean, occasionally they would come in and pitch it. I think I'm trying to think the picture that hit up needing. I'm trying to think there was a picture that had a great
Starting point is 00:35:54 hit a pinch at home run in the end in the playoffs. Right. And I'm old enough to remember that I can't. I think it was the Cardinals against the Dodgers or the Dodgers against Rick Needon. Bueller, I think, is who it was to hit that I can't, I think it was the Cardinals against the Dodgers or the Dodgers against Rick Neidenbuehler. I think it's who it was to hit that pitch at home run. Are you looking it up? Pitch at home run pitcher in the playoffs? Hey, that's crazy when I think about it, because like, you know, I used to pitch too. I used to be, Hey, listen, I had a hell of a, I had a hell of a split
Starting point is 00:36:22 finger, a knuckle ball. How you, let me see it. Let me see how you hold your hand for the knuckleball. Oh my knuckleball. Yeah, let me see Like that That's what I'm doing. No, okay. You got it. See you see all these No, that's how you that see there's all the way you can throw a knuckleball. You can't How are you gonna tell me? I call it the orthopedic way. How you gonna tell me?
Starting point is 00:36:48 No, you just got arthritis. Oh, I ain't got no, I'm telling you. Listen, I set up, right? I set up, boom, I'm here. Yeah. And once I come up here, I'm like this. I'm like this with the pitch. Are you trying to throw a split finger?
Starting point is 00:37:13 You try to throw a two-scene, you try to throw a four-scene, you try to throw a cut. Listen, two-scene, four-scene, fastball, I don't need that. I don't even need that in my repertoire. Cause I can, I can throw, I can throw a hundred, a hundred and twenty, twenty mile per hour slattle. So you, so you, so you don't throw the cut, you throw the cut fastball, like a, a, a, a, more Rivera, the cutter? No, I ain't got, I ain't got that.
Starting point is 00:37:38 I ain't got that. I ain't got that in my repertoire. Yeah. I'm just saying, but listen, my, my knuckle ball, I know you taught, this is the way they teach you to do it. But the way I'm just saying, listen, my my knuckleball, I know you taught, this is the way they teach you to do it. Yeah. But the way I flip my wrist, I flip my wrist, I can use two fingers, even though this is supposed to be a two finger split, you know, but I can do it with cause the way I can turn my
Starting point is 00:37:58 wrist and I can make it. But you can't turn your wrist. That's why it's like this here. I know because you want the ball to dance. Oh, Joe, but it could dance. I'm telling you. I know how to make it dance. No, Kurt Gibson was a was a heel to be pinched here. That was the 88 World Series against the pitcher. There's a pitcher that hit a pinch at home run. I think it's Rick Neidenbuehler. I mean, just type in Pitch It in the playoffs. Hey, hey, listen, I had a curveball in high school. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:37 I had a curveball. Boy, listen, I had a curve ball like no other. You throw the slur like Bob Levin? Nah, my curve was like Pedro Martinez. Oh, okay. It was like that. Yeah, I had a nice curve like Pedro, yeah. With a loop or a 12 to six?
Starting point is 00:39:02 Huh? With a 12 to six? Nah, 6 to 12. You talking 6 to 12? You talking 6 to 12? You talking 6 to 12? You talking 6 to 12? You talking 6 to 12? You talking 6 to 12?
Starting point is 00:39:12 You talking 6 to 12? You talking 6 to 12? You talking 6 to 12? You throw a side arm on y'all? Hey, 6 to 12. Hey, 6 to 12. Hey, 6 to 12. Hey, 6 to 12.
Starting point is 00:39:20 Hey, 6 to 12. Hey, 6 to 12. Hey, 6 to 12. Hey, 6 to 12. Hey, 6 to 12. Hey, 6 to 12. Hey, 6 to 12. Hey, 6 to 12. Hey, 6, the funny thing, let me tell you how good of a picture I was. How good of a picture you were, Gertrude. Sometimes I had my glove, my glove was an ampodextrous glove. Sometimes I pitch with my right hand and my right hand gets sore. They didn't even have to come to the mound to get me out.
Starting point is 00:39:38 I just turned the other way and put the glove on the other hand, pitch with my left. Okay. Like that's how good I was. You ain't never seen no ambidextrous picture. And then like, so with my- Well, Michigan, I think Michigan got one. I think there's a brother that, I think he might've just got drafted that he was-
Starting point is 00:39:56 For real? Yeah. Oh, that's live. I thought I was the only one. I think, but there, I think they got the guy, a guy got drafted this year. I think he throw 90 with both left and right. You know, Greg Abbott, that played for the Angels, he had he had one hand
Starting point is 00:40:13 and he had a great, yeah, yeah, I'm a great. So yeah, I like baseball. Listen, I don't watch it much because it's hard for me to. I enjoy the game. If I get that, if I get that, maybe the fifth inning, I can see through the whole thing. But the game, it's such a tedious process to get through the game, the pitches and then the waiting and it just, give me any five, give me two hot dogs and a Coke with no ice
Starting point is 00:40:41 and some fries and a popcorn. I can sit through it. But from inning one all the way to nine, I can't do it on. No, you gotta like, I mean, going to the Dodger games, man, you got, look, it's one way in and one way out. So I'm gonna give you a good three, four innings. I'll be there like, before I would get there like,
Starting point is 00:40:58 the top of the second, by the fifth, sixth inning, I'm up out of there. Right, right. Right. I'm a father. Right. Right. Right. I'm not going to be I'm not going to be in a two hour traffic to get home after the ball game. That ain't going to happen. So, yeah, I get you. I get a couple of innings. Right. I'm a father there.
Starting point is 00:41:15 I got to go eat some chicken fingers like you say. I get some chicken, some chicken tenders and a surprise. I'm a bounce. That's all I got for you, bro. Oh, Joe, oh, Joe, oh, Joe, your boy got some good news on Monday. Oh, talk to me. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, let me wait. Let me wipe my forehead. Now. Tell me something good. Tell me something good. Come on. Again, I won my appeal. Okay. I guess I guess far. He said, okay, okay, okay. I defamed him and a strongly worded opinion.
Starting point is 00:41:48 They said Mr. Sharp offered strong opinions based on things that were reported as fine. And that's not defamation. So, uh, hopefully you look, there's a chance he tries to throw a hail Mary, uh, uh, and take it to the Supreme Court. Who knows? Maybe his job is the, but I was never going back down. Um, and, and P Mac, you know, said, Hey, he didn't know. I don't feel I did anything wrong.
Starting point is 00:42:19 I ain't got no problem with Joe. I'm not using fans and people that's listening and watching right now. You've heard me say. Actions, I control that consequences are without out of my control, but. The consequences that come from my actions stand here on it. Yeah, take it. Open is all wrong.
Starting point is 00:42:46 I'm wrong. I don't believe I defamed Brett Barr. I believe I offered this very strong opinion on what was reported in the paper. Speaking of what was reported, is it still true? And has the money been paid back or are we gonna leave that alone? The money, he paid the original, but they said he owes interest that hasn't been paid back. Oh, interest. That's what that's what was reported. I was speaking on what reported now.
Starting point is 00:43:14 At the time, I said he took money. Skip said he paid it back. I said, and what about the interest? If they reported that the interest hadn't been paid back and like the funds went on some of the funds $5,000,000 $4,000,000 or something went for a volleyball arena so, you know, I was surprised that he filed a lawsuit and so You know what? I always do watch oh, I go call I get with Marvin. I go in I say so what are we gonna do? He says they got these firms. He said this is the best this would be The number one Williams and Conley Yeah, Oh
Starting point is 00:43:53 Williams and Conley. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, they helped me a few of my cases man Ocho Yeah, because you boy penny. Oh, yeah. Oh, you. You got to tell me you ain't got to tell me but It wasn't about the money I Won't bow down cuz you know, sometimes people try to put you in a pinch and think look big bang take little bang I've been a ball my money. I Never gonna apologize cuz I don't believe I did anything wrong if I was wrong if I say something if somebody like, okay I did anything wrong. If I was wrong, if I say something and somebody like, okay,
Starting point is 00:44:31 Meg, the stallion, she took what I said. She took it. It hurt. Okay. I got no problem, Meg. I'm sorry. That wasn't my intention. Intent don't matter because you were equal as offended. Even though I that that wasn't my intention. If I say something, the way I behaved at the Lakers game, I'm wrong. I'm wrong. Dead ass. But I don't believe I defamed Brett. I don't. I was offered a strong opinion on what was being reported. Right. I mean, listen, everybody reported it. Why was he just solely focused on you is the question. You know why? But it is what it is. OK, my bad. My bad. I mean, to bring that up. My bad. It is what it is. Okay, my bad. My bad. I didn't mean to bring that up.
Starting point is 00:45:05 My bad. It is what it is. But I'm glad. So all the people, Joe, everybody that handled it, they came in, they took all Ash emails. She was my producer. My phone, they came and plugged that machine up to my phone and took everything off. Yeah. Everything.
Starting point is 00:45:27 Yeah, I got one of them too. I got one of them at the high. I was like, I say, so what happened? I say, I just want y'all to know, I'm about to own something. If anything on this phone get out, I'm about to own something. I don't know what, but I'm gonna own it.
Starting point is 00:45:41 Yeah, yeah, yeah. And like I say, bro, it was it's just. It was just I'm just hopefully it's over. I really do. I hope it's over. I wish Brett nothing but the best. I heard that he's going to the tomorrow or next week. He's going before Congress and they're going to ask some questions about the funds.
Starting point is 00:46:04 What he knew, how much he knew, when did he know, what did he know. And so I just want the people of Mississippi to have their day in court. That was wrong for however it got out that the funds were misappropriated. And I just want the people of Mississippi to be made whole because that's one of the that's the poorest state in the US, Mississippi is the poorest. They can ill afford to have any money slip through the cracks and go to people that didn't deserve it or didn't.
Starting point is 00:46:40 And that's that's that's bad. And I just you know, you know, I've all and people, you've heard me say, I hate like I just want like people that can't help themselves. I mean, you talk about people making 10 and 15, 20,000 a year. And come on. And I just I just feel I just. I just feel bad. Look, I'm God, you bless me. You you you shown favor to me. Look, I'm for God. You bless me. You've shown favor to me more than I probably deserve. But everybody ain't like us. So Joe, everybody's not gonna play a number of years
Starting point is 00:47:12 in the NFL or playing professional sport. Everybody's not gonna have a job and be able to take care of their money. And when they retire, they good. Everybody won't be like that. And I just, I just, I just hate that the people of Mississippi and I don't know why people would do that, but I'm just glad it's over. I wish Brett the best. Uh, I wish the people in Mississippi, did they get their day and, and, and let justice be served. So, uh, that's, that's where I am on that.
Starting point is 00:47:41 So I'm glad. Thank you to my team at waves and Connelly you guys did Lou waves and college You know, I don't mean to be telling my personal business and I had to work with them on a very high profile case for myself You know Going through it was going through a little rough time. So during that rough time rough patch I was having a couple of years ago Williams and Connelly helped me, you know, I was a m a little rough time. So during that rough time, rough patch I was having a couple of years ago, Williams and Conley helped me.
Starting point is 00:48:06 You know, I was a mule for the cartel, but I can tell you this story. I'm, you know, um, and, you know, I was, you know, doing, doing, doing trips here and then I had to get on the road. I had my CDL at the time and I was taking big loads. I was taking big loads back and forth from Miami to Houston, and Houston to Texas, down to Mexico, and I got kinda caught up. And Williams and Conley came through for me, man. They was able to get me out there,
Starting point is 00:48:33 and ever since then, God has been good. That's all I can say. I don't wanna get too much into it, but just know God is good. You know? Yeah. I appreciate them. All right right on your nine's time for q and a hey boys a is one o'clock you knew that i did know that i got i gotta go work in the
Starting point is 00:48:54 morning hey hey you see how you see how hyped i am you see you know i took a nap early man i can i feel i could talk for another three hours that's how i'm feeling and i got this list i got this rib I could talk for another three hours. That's how I'm feeling. And I got this list, I got this rib, nevermind. Cody Holrod said- They don't pay us, I can't mention them. Ocho, Cody Holrod said, Ocho looking like Frozen from The Incredible.
Starting point is 00:49:17 Samuel L. Jackson, where's my super suit? Wait, why come every time, every time a black person has a bald head and got on glasses and a sweatsuit, they got to be fro- they got to be... And what you trying to say? Woman, where's my super suit? That was a good movie though.
Starting point is 00:49:39 Oh yeah, for sure. That was a good movie. Keppernwood, Jr. Oh, my question is, are the Jets going to make the playoffs or just just me? If just me, if they continue to play like this and they got 17, they're going to take 17 to the playoffs. Obviously, you'll take your four division winners and then you take three wild cards. I think the Jets have a great chance of being getting one. Getting one. Could that be Buffalo?
Starting point is 00:50:04 You believe you believe they're going to win the division? You believe they're going to win the division? have a great chance of being getting one, getting one, could that be Buffalo? You believe, you believe they're gonna win the division. You believe they're gonna win the division? Yeah. Me? Yeah. Absolutely. Okay.
Starting point is 00:50:13 But we don't know when two are coming back and we don't know what two we're getting when he does come back. I don't care how good the supporting cast is that's around him. What two are we getting back? That's all I wanna know. Tyler Huntley, Tyler Huntley is the quarterback.
Starting point is 00:50:25 Now I like Tyler Huntley. I think the numbers will suffer because Tyler Huntley being that he's a dual threat quarterback, I think he would run more as opposed to pass more, and as opposed to sitting in the pocket. I just, I think things are going to be different for the Dolphins, and things are looking different for the Jets, because now it's a different
Starting point is 00:50:45 year. Last year the Jets lost their quarterback. So Miami was on fire. This year Miami lost their quarterback and now the Jets are on fire. And I'm looking at Buffalo. Buffalo to me offensively don't have enough pieces to compete and put up as many points as some of the other teams they're going to have to face. And one of those is the goddamn Jets that should have scored almost 40 tonight. Yeah. They should have scored almost 40. I do think, I think the Jets are going to make the playoffs.
Starting point is 00:51:16 So Kemper, that's where I'm at on that. Ocho believes they'll win the division. I believe they'd make the playoffs. Daniel Quinn said, what's up Uncle Nocho? What do y'all think the probability probability of Cam Cam Newton returning to Carolina. Why would you put Cam in a situation? Hypothetically, why would you put Cam in that goddamn garbage? Even even in the hypothetical situation, don't don't do that.
Starting point is 00:51:39 Don't do that. Don't don't. He can't he can't save the day. He doesn't he shouldn't have to play Superman. Jesus himself, any of the 12 disciples couldn't come down and save the Carolina Panthers at the quarterback position. It is not, watch the game. I'm gonna be at the game this Sunday in Las Vegas. You will tell them what's really going on.
Starting point is 00:52:04 And I'm gonna tell you, I'm gonna come on the show that night and I'm gonna tell you, this is the issue. This is what's wrong. Cause I'm not watching from TV and I'm not telling you what I know, I'm telling you what I saw. Right. Corey Giff said,
Starting point is 00:52:20 Ocho, did you trademark the fade the phrase kiss the baby? I absolutely, I absolutely did not. I surely did not. I did not franchise it. No, I didn't. Remark not franchise. Joe, what's up? I'll get what you're we talking about.
Starting point is 00:52:41 Call it. If you used to being the man and meet someone with kids, how do you deal with it if it seems like you don't fit in? Whoa. What? You know, what you mean? You you don't have no kids, but she got kids and you don't fit in and you don't fit in. Because you used to feel like the man because the women that don't have kids normally put
Starting point is 00:53:07 you first. You right. That mean that's not a situation for you, but I can tell you that. But when it comes to women with kids, I'm going to tell you about me. I ain't dating nobody without no kids. I've always been like that. Always. You got to have one, maybe two.
Starting point is 00:53:21 Look. Or you can have three. Because I understand the type of snack that's going to be in maybe two. Look, this is what I have three. Because I understand the type of snack that's going to be in the pantry. See, you laugh and I ain't playing that for the dudes that's in the chat. If you date single women that have no kids, you ever notice you always got to take out the you ever notice she always want to put on looks and go places. You'll never notice that you date a woman with kids.
Starting point is 00:53:45 Sometimes, you know, she'll cook for you. Sometimes at the horizontal activity, at the horizontal activity, you go to the motherfucking pantry, you grab your honey bun, how you grab your chocolate brownie, you grab your oatmeal pie, you get a Capri Sun. Like it is different dating a woman with kids.
Starting point is 00:54:03 She's a lot more, she's a lot more structured and disciplined. She's a little bit more responsible than the woman that don't have no kids. That's always out every goddamn weekend. And when you call on the phone, she don't answer and pick up because she was somebody else. Ah, come on, Ocho. See, you could have done without that, Ocho. I'm just trying to give it to him.
Starting point is 00:54:20 I'm just trying to give it to him raw. I mean, pause. Oh, Lord. What is with you? Oh. My bad. Yeah, I mean, just a while ago, you was carrying a load. I was like, come on, man.
Starting point is 00:54:33 I was taking a load. I was like, oh, I didn't even hit you with the, I just let that one slide. I said, I don't even wanna talk about that one. My bad, my bad. I'm just, I'm feeling good. I'm feeling good tonight, boy. I think the thing is, Ocho, look,
Starting point is 00:54:44 this is the one thing I know. My grandparents, it was my bad. I'm feeling good. I'm feeling good tonight. I made the thing about your look. This is the one thing I know. My grandparents, it was my grandparents. The kids ain't coming. Hey, that's your old. I will put my kids first. Okay, put the kids first and see what happens. Hey there, it's Michael Lewis, author of Going Infinite, Moneyball, The Blind Side, and Liar's Poker. On every season of my podcast Against the Rules,
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Starting point is 00:59:16 You can watch along on the Wakin' Jake YouTube channel, or listen to Wakin' Jake on the iHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. It was never a situation. Ain't no kids with no kids coming in between. It's going to be a mom and dad. Y'all are United Front. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:40 I ain't telling you to abandon your kids, but I'm like, come on now. You would have to let, you're going to have to let the man be a man in the house. At the end of the day, you got to let him. And if you don't, if that's not what, if you want to be the man, don't invite somebody in if you're not going to let him be what he is. Right. And me, I don't go in that situation if that's not what you're trying to be. You can't find a, date a woman with kids and then they didn't get mad that she got kids
Starting point is 01:00:09 because she's got to devote time to them. Yeah. Because at the end of the day, I don't know the relationship she has with the kid's father and hopefully he's there, but she's got to devote some time. You can't hog monopolize all of her time. That's all I'm saying, bro. But I get it. I get it.
Starting point is 01:00:28 I've been very fortunate that when I've dated women with kids, they made me feel special and I appreciate that. And like, when you go into that situation, you do understand it's not like, like you got to treat them as if they were your kids. That what I would do for my own kids, I would do for them. Like you got to treat them as if they were your kids. That what I would do for my own kids, I would do for them. But you know what I like, if I date a one with kids that when they ask for stuff, it's normally for the kids.
Starting point is 01:00:55 I got a boy kid, he need this. Oh, he need a play stick. He need an X-Box. They need this. They need a camera. Well, okay. You got kids and you talk about some YSL or you talk about some Tom folk. Get out of here.
Starting point is 01:01:14 They may ask me something for the kids. I got you. I ain't gonna never ask you. I ain't gonna ask you. I've never dated a woman. And when they asked me, Shannon, could you help me with X, Y, and Z? I never said, what about the day? That ain't my responsibility. I understood that you had responsibilities when I met you. Cause you don't tell me, I don't know how you feel about this, but I have a child.
Starting point is 01:01:40 Well, I have two kids. What you mean how I feel? I have two kids. What you mean how I feel? So that ain't I and I I'm not gonna speak bad about him So don't come telling me oh, he don't do nothing. What you should thought about that for you lay down with it But if you were if you think I'm gonna be your sounding board so and I'm gonna speak bad about him that ain't gonna happen Right now to never happen. I ain't speaking bad about nobody because I don't know that man. And it ain't my place.
Starting point is 01:02:09 Because guess what? You all miss running to get back together. First thing you will see, you know, he was talking to you, talking crazy about you. You never go say that about me because I don't speak that ill of that man, because I don't know that man. That man might be great. You might be feeding me one side of the story. And she might be the problem.
Starting point is 01:02:26 So there's always this is always three sides to every story. So I don't care. I don't care. Kids, no kids. They got nothing to do with me. What you did before me. Hey. I mean, my first first real real girlfriend had a kid. I got no problem with no kids. Hey, she has snacks.
Starting point is 01:02:47 Oh Joe, she had a kid in high school. She didn't have her own place. She lived with her parents. Oh, my bad. I love, I love women with kids, boy. I'm telling you, boy, you don't understand how important and vital those snacks are in the middle of the night. Yeah. But, shit.
Starting point is 01:03:11 Nah, I mean, I buy it, but I don't know about no, somebody say game pass, I don't know about no, and I don't know about all that, not damn. And you cut your boy some slack, I don't know about, I don't know about that. Hey, give me like, I can play Galaga or Jouse or. Like Pac-Man, I mean, I can get clear the board the first time in Pac-Man, then after a while,
Starting point is 01:03:34 they go, that'll mess me up. Hey, Jouse was dope, man. I remember Jouse. Yeah, yeah. Probably don't even know about joust riding on top of the Not flamingo what you call it man. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah that bird. Yeah Yeah, yeah, yeah Yeah, but that's that's why I'm so bro. I like I said, Rob. I mean, I'm here what you say that you don't feel like a man
Starting point is 01:04:04 I mean, what is it that that she does? Or doesn't do to make you not feel like a man, she don't give you no voice in the house, she don't let you, you know, choose what you're going to give a night, what you're going to watch on television. Yeah, he got to have that conversation. Well, so, yeah, you know, that conversation, you know, communicate, communicate, communicate a little bit. You know,
Starting point is 01:04:28 she that's something I've been working on because she I live, I live real at the doghouse because I worked on the communication. You got to bad things happen when you don't communicate, don't you? Yeah. Yeah. Because communication is good. Communication is bad. Hey, look at her.
Starting point is 01:04:42 Communication is good. Communication is good. Communication is good. Communication is bad. What's in between there? They do much space. Bad things happen in space. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you. You ain't laughing at that.
Starting point is 01:04:54 Well, yeah, so I think the thing is, like I said, a kid, I ain't got no problem. OK, I mean, hey, when we're kids, hey, I like you. So if I rock with you, I'm a rock with the kids, too. Come on. They go get some money free. Tell your mama, tell your mama I brought you two scoops too. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:05:13 Two scoops for you, two scoops for me when I get home. That's what I'm saying, you know what I'm saying, no joke, even swapping those windows. Yeah. Mama, when your friend coming back over? Tomorrow. You know what I'm saying, don't joke. I'll be back tomorrow.
Starting point is 01:05:31 And guess what? I'm coming with a bag of chips and some animal crackers. Yeah, he like animal crackers. Yeah, yeah, we like Mr. Shatter. Yeah, you do? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, he is.
Starting point is 01:05:41 Yeah, you do. They did it. Yeah, that of mama got a new friend. He nicer than you. And don't you tell your daddy that Dr. Frank L Bellamyamy, how you been doc? How you been? They say fame can get you almost anything, but what's the one thing that fame has gotten you
Starting point is 01:06:14 or can't buy and how do you stay focused on what really matters? Oh, bro. You know, I like watches. Bro, them people at Patek and AP and for me now, like some people like they like like in Rolex have like off catalog stuff, stuff that they don't even offer only the high end people that spend 500 million, 5 million, you know, X amount of dollars. It is what it is. Man, I call the place and they say, we sold out.
Starting point is 01:06:53 We don't have any more reservations. Oh, well, she'll be like, why did you tell them who you were? Or they said he sold out. If they sold out, what the hell? Me tell them who they are. What are you going to do? Move somebody? I'm gonna sit on somebody's damn lap.
Starting point is 01:07:03 They say they sold out. I take them at the word, old chou. Look, man, I ain't talking about all that other stuff. Man, it's okay. Hell, I really didn't wanna go anyway. I'm telling you the truth, I didn't. Right. Yeah, Mr. Sharpe, you know, we have a list
Starting point is 01:07:24 and we'll see what we can do. OK. It can happen if it happens. It happens if it doesn't. It doesn't. I'm right. I don't lose no sleep one way or another. There are more important things than. Happens, oh, well, but, you know, I've been trying to get a couple of watches. They say it might take two to three years. I'm like, OK, I'll wait two to three years.
Starting point is 01:07:47 Oh, shoot. Hold on. Hold on. Shoot. And I got I got some resource. They got some connection that I can I can I can expedite the process. Now, when you get it, it might not be taken, but you had a month. It's all good, man. Look, look, oh, I mean, I mean, if it's meant to be, I mean, I've met some people that have helped me get some pieces that I would have probably had to wait a little bit longer for. But if it's meant to be, it's meant to be if it's not a God, they want me to have it
Starting point is 01:08:18 at that time. And he didn't put me in position to get it. I'm OK with that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You're right. You're right. You're right. You're right. As a door D say, Oh, can I show today is my 34th birthday. It will be an honor and a privilege. If I can get a happy birthday shout out.
Starting point is 01:08:32 Also quick question, which top three coaches are on the hot seat if their team missed the playoff? Okay. As a door, happy 34th birthday. Hope you had a great day. Enjoy today and many, many more like today. Hopefully you're birthday. Um, I hope you had a great day. Enjoy today and many, many more like today. Hopefully you're
Starting point is 01:08:48 surrounded by family, friends and loved one and they show you the true meaning of what it's like to have you in their life. And likewise, the top three coaches on the hot seat, Robert He gonna be good. Hold up. AFC. See. You know, let's see. AFC East, I think. Oh, Sean McDermott, he might be on the hot seat, even if they make the playoffs.
Starting point is 01:09:24 Buffalo. Yep. Buffalo, they even if they make the playoffs. Buffalo. Yup. Buffalo, they better go far in the playoffs. They want to change the scenery. AOC South. What do you think about you think Doug Peterson on the hot seat in the South. In Jacksonville? Yeah. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:09:47 I don't know. Hell, I put Dave Kanellis on a goddamn hot seat too. Cause that's why he made the guy. Yeah, you made just goddamn. So, so the frame right. That's the reason why he made that switch so early. Damn. I'm telling you, I'm telling you that's the reason why he made the switch so early.
Starting point is 01:10:01 Uh-uh. I'm for them. I'm gonna put, I'm gonna put, I for the nip this in the bud right now. And you know what's going to happen? They're going to go to Andy Dalton. Nothing going to turn around. Then they're going to go back to Bryce Young. I'm telling you, chat, I'm telling you what's going to happen.
Starting point is 01:10:17 Andy's not going to be able to do nothing. They're going to have to go back to Bryce Young. The man don't know, you'll see. What about the Giants head coach? Brian Dayball. Think of a. I mean, listen, in the perfect situation, the phrase players get coach inspired.
Starting point is 01:10:37 I wouldn't be surprised because Daniel Jones right now coming off of last year based on what he's done so far this year. Shit, Daniel, he might not make it to the back. We man out there. I mean, the talk about Sean Payne, man, Sean Payne, they all shop. Well, look, they got money. The Walton Pinnifion family that purchased the Broncos. He's the wealthiest owner in the NFL worth over 70 billion.
Starting point is 01:11:02 So 60 million ain't nothing to him. Nothing at all. Nothing. That's one percent. But it's not so much losing is how they lose. Yeah, that's the thing. I think with ownership and be looking at it, but I think it's how they're losing. And it's gonna be interesting to see if the Broncos can turn it around. Scott Williams, Uncle Nocho, please shout out Scott. Oh, Narda Williamson on our 15th anniversary.
Starting point is 01:11:38 She's my gold jacket. Lennarda Williamson, your hubby Scott said, he wanna wish y'all a happy anniversary. So you are his gold jacket. Wow. I'm using that. I'm using that. Yeah. Bro, congratulations on 15 years together. I know there's been some trials and tribulations, some ups and downs, but you guys are weathered the storm.
Starting point is 01:12:00 And that's a huge accomplishment. And I hope you get 15 plus 15 more. Congrats. A nice farm decent. Uncle Nocho, please wish the best mod of Nightcap. Happy birthday, Jamie J. Breezy with Breezy. What it do? Happy birthday, bro.
Starting point is 01:12:18 Happy birthday, Breezy. Breezy been one of the ones that's been here from the jump. I ain't seen much of him. Laney Ray must be at the bar. Cause anytime she in there, one or two plays, she at the bar. Yeah, she at the bar, or sleep. She probably asleep.
Starting point is 01:12:36 Patrick Garza say, Uncle Nocho, come to Sioux Falls, South Dakota. It's diverse and they'll love y'all here. Everyone's seen y'all show in interviews. Love for all, love for all time, always. What y'all got down there? Y'all they cook barbecue ribs. I want some octails. I want some neck bone. I want some fried chicken. Some other fried pork chop. It's soup phones. And you ain't getting that out there. What the hell I'm gonna get then. Hey, what they cooking soup, hey Patrick, what y'all cooking soup balls?
Starting point is 01:13:07 You get your ham, I don't know. Hey, champ, what's the number one dish in South Dakota? Vice? South Dakota? Yeah. I'm just saying, bro, they got buffalo, vice and buffalo something out there. Oh, I don't know what they got in the soup balls. Look, I ain't going nowhere.
Starting point is 01:13:26 They got no cocktail. They got no smothered fried pork chops. They got no neck bones. I know what they do. I know what they got at that blueberry cornbread is made of that skillet. I know what he got that. What did he got of it in Houston? There you go, man.
Starting point is 01:13:43 Hey, hey, hey. Mm hmm go, man. Ocho. Ocho, leave me alone, bro. I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just giving you a place that has an adequate array of what you just mentioned. You like to eat. That's all. That's all. But yeah, I'm gonna let you finish though. Yeah. I'll tell you what, I'm not. I ain't gonna be no 57 year old day. Never say no. Oh, leave me alone. Oh, no, I'm just saying we had a great time.
Starting point is 01:14:20 Oh, we had a great time. Can we leave Houston in Houston? All right. I'm leaving in Houston? I'm gonna leave it in Houston. I'm leaving in Houston. You sure you ain't left nothing behind? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:31 Yeah. That's what I was saying. You know, we got it. I did, I did tell them, you know, I did tell the agency, man, you know, put Houston back on that return list. Night camp tour. Fall style. to back on that return list. Nightcap tour. Mm hmm.
Starting point is 01:14:46 Ball style. The. A spring, I'll be free. Late spring. Oh, it's. Had I shagged me? Hey. Oh. Alan Fletcher, Uncle Nocho,
Starting point is 01:15:13 if y'all could expand the NFL to two more cities, where would you go? Nah, they got enough now. They got 32. That's enough, yeah. 32, great ass all, don't need no more teams. I wouldn't even expand. They got enough now. You got 32. That's enough. Yeah Great ass all don't need no more teams I wouldn't even expand. Hell no
Starting point is 01:15:32 We wouldn't expand no, no, no expansion teams So I said, yeah, hou, Houston, Houston hit different. No, as we move it, as we all ask you, we talk about. We move it. No, sir. No, no, I would. Honestly, honestly, Alan, I would not. The NFL is not I don't think they're looking to expand. I don't know where they would go. Jerry damn sure don't want another team in, in, in
Starting point is 01:16:08 Texas. He got, he got, he got Dallas and Houston debt. Uh, they don't want anybody fringe infringing on that market. They got three teams in Florida. Um, they got two, uh, uh, and, and, and the New York, New Jersey area, uh, area. and in the New York, New Jersey area area. I'm trying to think what city, what state could hold. The only one I can think of is Texas and Jerry, I'll let that happen. Right. If it let that happen.
Starting point is 01:16:39 I mean, I'm I'm. Kelly, good. I mean, we're going to go to Oakland. Go get a team back in Oakland. Yeah. I mean, but you got the 49ers in the Bay. You got the Rams. You got the Chargers that share the same building. So that's three teams.
Starting point is 01:16:54 Could they possibly hold up? You got 40 million people. So theoretically, you could. But I don't know if expanded maybe a team relocates. But I don't think anybody is looking to relocate. But I definitely I don't think anybody's looking to relocate. But I definitely would. I wouldn't know. Yeah. Leo said, what's up? We are on the yard at Howard waiting. That's what I'm talking about, bro. I can't wait. We got HBCU tour kicks off tomorrow at Howard University.
Starting point is 01:17:26 It was voted one of the top 500 universities in the country. I can't wait to see Howard. I've never been to Howard before. I've heard great things about Howard and I can't wait to see the campus tomorrow. I know it's gonna be a buzzing, it's gonna be electric. I believe everybody, every person should at least have to go one semester to an HBCU. And it needs to be in the fall so you can see the pageantry.
Starting point is 01:17:49 You can see homecoming. You could see the students that are buzzing. Woo. You can see the, uh, the saras and the prats on the yard step and doing what they do. That's unbelievable experience. And I'm glad I got an opportunity to experience that at Savannah state. But, uh, I'm so excited to go to Howard. And then we followed that up. We go to TSU, Tennessee State in October, and then we hit Morris, Moe House, and Clark. So we're going to be over, I think we could probably be in the AU Center for that.
Starting point is 01:18:19 So I'm excited, man. I'm excited. I mean, anytime we start talking about HBCU, you can see how I get Ocho. I'm like, yeah. I'm excited. I mean, anytime we start talking about HBCU, you can see how I get Ocho. I'm like, yeah, they talk about us. They talk about us. Hey. They got a what HBCU or Houston. Previewing him, we go to preview. I want to put that book and see what they are tomorrow.
Starting point is 01:18:41 We are brand preview. We go to prayer and mute. We going, we going. What about where is Texas Southern at? I don't know where that's at. Is it Houston? Oh, Texas Southern to Houston. Kill two birds with one stone. Oh, Texas. Texas. Something to Houston. Kill two birds with one stone.
Starting point is 01:19:07 Oh, stone. Yeah, man. Yeah, yeah. Oh, Joe. No, you ain't going back to Houston. I'm not going back to Houston. I'm good. I'm good. I'm good. I'm good. I'm good I'm good. That's that that that one that one little trip right there that'll hold me till next year No, that that deterred me from going back
Starting point is 01:19:35 That one little trip to turn me got me scared And besides I had nobody to show me around I wanted to go get some collard greens, some oxtail, some other fried pork chops, something like that. But I ain't know that guy, what's her? Security at the door, I'm too loud, hold on. I think the neighbor's complaining at the hotel, hold on. What the hell that is? Oh.
Starting point is 01:20:11 Uh oh. What did they say? Not the whoever's in the room right here in front of me in front of the camera. They call downstairs for security. I'm too loud. Oh. Hating ass. Well, well tell them.
Starting point is 01:20:24 Tell them that's all right. Show over anyway. Hating ass. Thank you guys for watching another episode of Nightcap. I am your favorite, Shoutout to Sharp. He's your favorite number 85, Liberty City's own. Cincinnati bingo, ring of fame, honor read the legendary pro bowler, all pro.
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Starting point is 01:21:32 If you ordered merch in the last three weeks is shipping out next week. So thank you guys for all the support. We greatly, greatly appreciate it. Uh, the just beat the Patriots tonight, 20, 43, Aaron Rogers was sharp. He had two touchdowns, 281 yards. Uh, and he looked very, very good. The defense was dominant. They dominated the Patriots 24 to three. Drake may ended up coming in the game. Could this be the end of the Colby percent starting in New England? We shall see. You get 10 days. Normally that's when they make the change to give the quarterback
Starting point is 01:22:03 extended time Ocho to get a better grasp of the offense. That's normally what happens. It start or changes normally comes after the bye week. Although this is not a bye this ended. This is an extended time off. So thank you guys again for watching night cap. I'm up. He's Ocho. We'll see you Saturday. The Volume. I'm Kari Champion and this is season four of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry.
Starting point is 01:22:35 Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. Every great player needs a foil. I know I'll go down to history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Listen to The Making of a Rivalry, Caitlin Clark versus Angel Reese,
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