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If the season ended today, the Raiders would have the number two pick.
Time thinks the Raiders will be a good spot for his son.
At an event in Las Vegas time told Pierce,
you are truly the best.
Now I need you to do one thing.
I need you to draft those Sanders boys.
I, I, I, hold on.
I like it though.
I like it.
I like it, but I don't remember.
It's very important.
The situation you go to your supporting cast is very important that you have the tools around you at your disposal.
He got Brock Bowers.
Huh?
He got Brock Bowers.
Yeah, he got Brock. Brock is the real deal. Brock might be top three, top four, along
with, is it McBride? Did I say that right?
Yeah. I don't know. He might be top three or four, and I ain't talking about three or
four. And I ain't talking about two or three or four.
But again, you know, we talk about the NFL now. We need more than Bowers. We need three or four and I ain't talking about three or four and I ain't talking about two or three or four.
But again, you have to be me. Um, no, we talk, we talk about NFL now.
We need, we need more than Bowers.
We need more.
For sure.
They, they, they, they got some, they got some good receivers.
Not great.
They got good, they got good quick feetie guys.
Yeah.
We need just one.
Just, just one.
I'm talking about we like I'm part of the damn Raiders.
They just, they just need one and he's gonna be fine.
Yeah. Yeah, I mean look, I think it'll be very interesting to see how this thing shakes out. Jacksonville has two wins, I think the Giants have two wins, I think the Raiders have two wins, and at some point in time they're like, you don't ever want to show your fan base that you don't really
care about winning?
I mean, because we want to try to win, but we really try to lose.
Now Jacksonville, y'all ain't going, listen, y'all can't, I don't know what y'all gonna
do because you got Trevor.
I don't think Trevor going nowhere anytime soon.
And he just got paid.
Exactly.
You got the Giants and need them quarterback desperately.
The Raiders need a quarterback desperately.
Hell, there are several teams.
Maybe somebody moves up to get,
if you fall in love with somebody during the draft process, you put them on the board
and you evaluate them, you study their tape
and you list, like, this guy is franchise altering.
But it's gonna be very, very interesting
to see this thing high shapes out, Ocho.
But I do think Shadour is gonna be a very high pick.
He's made himself some money.
He got coached, he got a coach that is off
as a coordinator this year, was an OC in the NFL.
So he's pro ready.
His dad is a coach.
You know, you like, you like, you like players,
especially the quarterback position, that dad was a coach.
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around, comes along with being an NFL quarterback.
You're the CEO.
Got to be buttoned up.
Oh Joe, you gotta say all, gotta say all the right things, right things.
Yeah.
Do all the right things.
Yeah. It's more than just playing the position. You gotta say all the right things. Right things, yeah. Do all the right things.
Right things, yeah.
It's more than just playing the position.
Everybody's like, man, who cares?
It's love.
Bro, stop it.
Right.
Stop it.
It's different.
It is.
It is.
Just like if you're a CEO, Tim Cook can't just do underarmor, doing willy nilly stuff,
even though Apple products are flying, go flying off the shelf.
It doesn't work like that.
There's a decorum.
You know, you gotta be very demure when you in that.
Do it.
Wait, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.
You gotta be very what?
You gotta be very demure when you in that situation.
I ain't never heard that before.
What that mean?
That's a word you have to spell at some point in time.
So I can't tell you what it means.
The mirror, like D E D E M M O O R.
Damn.
The mirror. D E M double O R.
M U R E.
Oh, the mirror.
Yeah.
Okay. Okay. Oh, the mirror. Oh, Okay, okay. Demure.
Oh, you got to talk like you French.
Okay, okay, okay.
I like that.
I had French toast for breakfast this morning.
What would it mean again?
I'm gonna use, I'm gonna use, I'm gonna use.
It's reserved.
It's modest.
It's shy.
Oh, okay.
Hey, hey, when I I met her I was very
Jumeir. I don't think Ray will say you was debuting. Ray will probably say you the damn fool when she
met you. You the damn fool two years ago and you a deep fool now. Yeah, you know, you know, I'm the mule. Yeah, that means, you know, hey, when it, when it, when it's time to shake the cup,
I get buried.
I'm the mule.
Now you ain't shaking the cup.
You ain't just shying in.
Now everything goes, everything goes behind closed doors.
You know what they say?
Nobody knows where the nose goes when the doors close.
Yes, sir.
Yes, sir.
Cause when the door closes, all sex.
Yes, sir.
That's it.
That's it.
No, I got it.
That's it.
It, it, it, it, listen, it ain't nothing but a meeting of the minds.
Huh?
That what it is?
Ain't nothing but a meeting of the minds.
Hey, I know we had a meeting of the minds before we That what it is? It ain't nothing but a meeting of the minds. Hey I know we had a
meeting of the minds before we went to the room. I'm allowed to change my mind once we get in there
okay? I'm just saying don't ya? I changed my mind. That's how it was before we went in there.
After we get in there like oh I don't know about this, will they? Yes, sir.
And Mike Parsons to the list of Cowboys voices clamoring for the return of Mike McCarthy.
I think it would be like a fair shot
with everyone back, players, coaches,
because the injury kind of struck
of what this season could really be.
The injuries have been terrible,
and you know it really sucks.
In terms of coach, man, Mike,
damn, you just just say never mind. Um, go Mike the me and his relationship has always been really good He always took real good care of me and I just don't know how the the business side is going to go
You know Jerry has his own mindset about who he wants to coach. This is his team
I'm kind of like just a pawn in this business
Hold on. I thought a couple of weeks ago. You said that
Nevermind. Oh Joe
Hey
players coming out in defense of their coat the head coach
despite some of the things that he said in the past having to retract it and
Change their tune now in support of Mike McCarthy
and change their tune now in support of Mike McCarthy. Regardless of what any of the players say,
in Jerry's mind, his mind is probably already made up.
Probably.
Probably already made up.
You know, he's gonna lie,
he's gonna lie Mike McCarthy to finish out the season.
You know, and that came out and said it as well.
I wish I had some power
when it comes to the decision making.
But you don't.
You don't.
Yeah.
Everybody knows that.
Regardless of what anybody comes out and said,
you know, it's, it's good.
It's good.
A good PR, good media relations,
but knowing Jerry based on this season,
regardless of the injuries or not,
he clean the house.
Probably.
He's cleaning the house.
If you understand the business in general,
if you understand the cache and how that specific individual runs his ship, he's cleaning house no matter what any player says.
Your coach, it's kind of like when a player knows he's gone, the coaches know he's gone.
Yeah.
The player, what the coach say?
I would love to have him back.
He's been great.
He's a great player.
We love him.
Yeah.
They don't say, no, we want him gone.
And just like players, it's a rare,
I don't know if I've ever heard of,
oh yeah, I want him gone.
I don't like him.
He's not a great coach.
He's not a great at situations.
He doesn't make any end game adjustments.
He doesn't make quarter to quarter adjustments,
halftime adjustments.
I've never heard a player say that.
So all this is just coaches' spiel for me.
And it's PR, PR spin and and they might sincerely want it back, but I don't know
What what what were they supposed to say?
right and
players players always say
Everything that's politically correct. Yes in that setting
Nobody there. They're very few.
They're very few players that have ever been in NFL that actually voiced their
opinion or saying what the fans are thinking or saying what we know is going on
in the locker room and actually came out and said it. Right.
There's only maybe maybe one I could think of.
Shit. My dog T T T let it be known.
Whatever issues might be going on
that the fans can see from the outside in,
but as a player, you know you're not supposed to say,
T gonna let you know the things that are going on inside.
He gonna tell you about the elephant in the room.
He gonna let it be known.
Why are we losing?
Cause the coaches suck.
Straight up.
What the fuck is going on? Listen, cause the coaches suck. Mm-hmm. Straight up. Hey, hey, you heard Chase.
Chase, man, don't ask me no questions.
Right.
Ask the coach.
Ask that.
I don't call plays.
About getting the ball?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, he said I don't call plays.
Y'all asking me stuff.
Now, y'all always tell me,
hey, let the coaches coach.
You just play.
Now all of a sudden you ask me,
what can I get open on?
Oh, I'm gonna play.
That's your job.
Hey, I love it.
The guy, I'll try to equate to to, hey,
you do your job, okay?
Right.
Hey, how's it looking out there?
Mm-hmm, I'm doing my job.
Doing my job, that's what you told me to do.
Yeah.
Is it very gangly?
Greg Newsome.
George Pickens doesn't know him, or at least that's what the Steelers wide receiver says
days away from the rematch with the Cleveland Browns.
Steelers, week 12 loss to the Browns was punctuated by a scuffle between Pickens and Newsome during
the game ending Hail Mary Attempts.
Ask if he would talk to Newsom before the Sunday's game
Pickens was dismissive.
I don't even know who that is.
The Steelers third year receiver said Friday,
Pickens also doubled down on his post-game assertion
that he did not think the Browns are a good team.
I just go by the record, bro.
After the game, Newsom called Pickens a fake tough guy,
and Friday he responded to Pickens' latest comments
and addressed he was going to handle the trash talk field rematch. I'm all about team Newsom said obviously
He's a guy who cares more about himself and you can see that in the penalties
He calls it for me my job is to try to do whatever I can to help my team win
There's never going to be no one-on-one battle for me. I
Like it I like it. I like it too. Five, five, five. Let's go. I need to see. Listen,
we lost Mike Evans and Marshawn Latimore. We lost that. We lost Josh Norman and Odell Beckham.
We lost that. So you want that to come back?
Greg Newsom, I know you're a team player. I know I understand it, you know team, you know camaraderie Who I who I who I man I need this George Piggins. I
Need this keep it within the game keep it within the confines. Oh, okay. Give me a I give me a show
Give me I I'm I swear for God. I'm gonna give me some popcorn, I'm gonna kick my feet up and watch y'all
go at it Sunday.
Give me a show.
Hey, play hard, just don't get a penalty.
Don't cost us 15.
Yeah, don't get no penalties.
Don't do none of that.
Don't cost us 15.
Hey, listen, get in each other's face, talk trash. You know, with pickets, when you catch a ball,
you know, you hit that thing they be doing there.
You know?
Greg Newsome, you make a play, you get up and, you know,
you do the sword.
Scrap, I got a strap.
Like strap?
Man, y'all get, man, I'm telling you,
I beg of y'all, man.
I don't really hear none of that
politically correct bullshit about,
no, I'm a teen player.
Give me a show. Shit, I pay't really have none of that politically correct bullshit about it. No, I'm a teen player. Give me a show.
Shit, I pay, you know how much I pay for
NFL Sunday ticket?
But you better give me something.
Yeah.
I'm talking, I need that.
What is it, like $300 a week?
That mean $300 a month?
Ain't it like $300 a month?
I don't know, I'm using Firestick, but go ahead.
Yeah.
I don't know, I gotta call Firestick, but go ahead. Yeah.
I don't know, I gotta call Shelly, see how much Shelly paid.
I'm gonna find me a little loophole around everything.
Yeah.
I'm going...
No, I think it's like $300.
I think it is, I don't know.
I don't know, Ash know. Ash, how much is it?
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I pulled up on you at practice last time.
You didn't want to race me because you were scared.
Let's do a hundred thousand dollar race, 40 meter sprint.
Ooh, how much?
A hundred thousand, 40 meters?
Yeah.
Oh, how much? 100,000, 40, 40 meters? Yeah.
Oh, shoot. I, I show, I show speed, speed go ahead to get out. Well, he quick now.
Like, listen, he's, he's quick, but Tyree's strength is historic.
He right, he's right now.
Fine. He gone.
That, that'd be a good one.
That may mean a hundred thousand. Damn, I mean, 100,000 to speed ain't nothing.
But look here, if I'm a professional,
I'm not doing anything.
I ain't pulling no hamstring.
I ain't doing none of that racing no cash.
You better get hurt, man.
You gotta live your life, man.
Come on, man.
You living his life.
You playing football.
There's more to life than just football.
No, no, no.
Man, other things. He hurt himself.
He pulled a hamstring.
Now what?
What you gonna say, Ocho?
And what happens if he hurt himself when he's playing football?
Then what?
That's what I'm gonna do.
I'm gonna get hurt on their job.
On their dime.
Nah, he ain't gonna get hurt.
Cause you do realize, you do realize non-football related, they put you on a non-football list,
they ain't gotta pay you.
They ain't gonna pay you.
You do realize that, right?
They ain't gonna pay him. They ain't gonna pay him. I'm just... No, they won't on the non football list, they ain't gotta pay you. You realize that right? They gonna pay him, they gonna pay him.
No, they won't.
I just, Ocho, I'll tell you what I'll bet you now.
I bet you if he hurts his hamstring,
they will put him on, and he's not ready to go,
they gonna put him on the non football injury list.
They're not gonna do that.
Why would you do, Ocho, tell me what does,
I just want you to tell me this.
Tell me what does Tyree get out of this?
Great content.
He's in the NFL.
It's still great content.
There's nothing good come out of this.
There's nothing.
A hundred thousand?
Yeah, baby, this is a little fun.
Let the kids have some fun.
Come on, man.
Don't be a Debbie Downer.
You got to live some, man.
Listen, outside of football, you got to spread your goddamn wings.
It's OK.
He's not going to get hurt.
It's 40 meters.
Tyreep been running since he was four years old.
He going to be all right?
That's a different type of running, Ocho.
Don't put that, I wouldn't.
It's a drive, he's playing football right now.
It ain't nothing but a drive.
That football.
It's both round.
It's both round.
If he gets hurt playing football, he's covered.
It's just like how many guys you heard got hurt on jet skis, got hurt on skiing,
it cost them a career, Ocho.
I ain't never heard nobody get hurt
running straight ahead in a straight line.
I ain't never heard that, never, ever.
Especially someone that, especially someone
that all they do is just run, that's it.
And they run really, really fast.
But here's the thing.
Yes, sir.
There's a difference between like 40,
running a 40 and even Tyreek running football
because you have to understand.
Like when you coming out, Ocho,
you like, man, I got man.
That apple, that carrot is the NFL
and I gotta get there and I'm chasing it.
I don't believe Tyreek can run 427 like he did when he came out.
Right now?
Right. Yeah.
Absolutely not.
No, I'm not saying right now.
I'm saying if he trained, if he were to train, I don't believe he'd run that again.
No.
He's talking about no.
He's going to run a 4.3 though, right now.
Hey, you know the difference between 4.2 and 4.3, you know the difference at four two and four, you know
You know the difference. It's still a couple steps
You're coming down for Joe
You can reach out and touch you can you can still reach out and tap the four two dude on the shoulder It's like is I mean before two dudes go tap the four three guy on the shoulder the four three dude
You know what I mean. Yeah.
I mean, it's just, it's-
But Ocho, but Ocho, there is nothing good.
I know what you mean, but you gotta let these boys live, man.
They can, Ocho.
Have some fun.
Let them have some fun.
Ocho.
Create some good content, man.
Ocho, you got content.
Do you know how many highlight plays Tyree got in there, fam?
Yeah, but this would be better.
Oh, you got content. I don't know if you just saw, he got content. He don't need to get no more content. Do you know how many highlight plays Tyree got in there, Phil? Yeah, but this would be better. He got content. I don't know if you just saw he got content.
He only to get no more content.
What do you got? What do you got?
We'll need to talk about it. But he got great content over the last
over the last year and a half.
He produced great content.
He's produced great content.
Let's leave it at that.
Oh, hey, he he trying to outdo me.
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Yeah, I'm coming to y'all. I'm coming to see y'all.
Hey, the boys still making...
Listen to me. Listen to me. Wait till 2025. I ain't even playing.
I ain't even playing. I might pop out 10.
Yeah, like that.
Gow Gow breaks Usain Bolt's world record
as the fastest 16 year old human, Gow Gow.
Hey, he was moving wasn't he?
Gow Gow ran 20.04 in the Australian All-School Championship
in Brisbane on Saturday.
Gow Gow broke Usain Bolt's world record,
world 16 year old of 20.13 seconds
from 2003. Gout Gout turned 17. I just like saying Gout Gout. Gout turned 17 on December
20th. Only man in history that have ever run faster at the age of 17, 20.4 at age 17 is Aryan Knighton. He ran 1984,
Boat ran 1993. These are adult times and me just a kid, I'm running them,
Gow said, is going to be great future for sure. I mean he long, I mean he, he, he,
I mean if you look at him, he look like he like, he taller, I mean, he, he, he, I mean, if you look at him, he looked like he like,
he taller like six foot and he got a Usain Bolt frame.
Yeah.
Mm hmm.
I mean, yeah, he's not, he's not as, I don't want to use the word thick, paws.
He's slender.
Okay.
He's 16.
Yeah.
He gonna put some weight on now.
He gonna put on and he's strong as hell to be 16 already. Yeah, you don't put the weight on that maybe you don't put on any a strong as hell to be 16 already
Yeah, he's strong because in order to run and do what you're doing. You have to be able to hold and maintain
Yeah, you got a whole lot of people. Yeah
He nice man. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah
Yeah, I mean I love look I love I mean, I mean, I don't, I don't love, I didn't love running.
Right.
Per se, the type of running that you got to do to be a professional, to be a track and
field athlete.
But I just, I just love, I love watching it.
I love watching it.
And I love seeing these young kids.
It's kind of like the kids that run the 400.
I forget his name from, from Maryland. That's running. He's running 44,
where you run 44, 20 something. Um, I'm just love seeing these kids and hopefully
they don't flake, they don't burn out because that's those are some really
fast times at really, really young ages. Yeah. Like you said, those are grown.
You're right. Those are grown men times and you're 16. Still a teenager area night. And, um, you know, turn pro hell.
He was like a, what a sophomore, junior in high school. He's like,
what am I getting out of this? Let me go make me some money. I'll race y'all,
but I'm getting paid for this. Yeah. Oh yeah. But, uh, congratulations.
Gow.
Judy Garland's famous ruby slippers
from The Wizard of Oz have reportedly been sold
for $28 million.
Ocho, what film memorabilia would you buy
if you had unlimited funds?
Wait a minute, say it again.
What film memorabilia would you buy
if you had
unlimited funds? Oh what film memorabilia would I buy if I had unlimited funds? You
know what? You want to know what? This is something people don't know about
me. Obviously when I was growing up, when I was growing up, it keep me out of the
streets when I was in Liberty City, obviously my grandma when it
wasn't football season, she had me taking saxophone and piano lessons. So I know
how to play the piano. One of my favorite movies of all time, Chad, I'm not sure
the age of some of the people in the chat, but if you know this movie, you'll
know exactly what I'm talking about. The movie is called Stormy Weather. In Stormy
Weather, there's a song that Lena Horne sings called Stormy
Weather, obviously, and Fats Domino is the one playing on the piano. So if I had unlimited
funds, I would want the piano that Fats Domino used in that movie when it was filmed, and
that would be the artifact that I would buy. I know it might sound weird to some people.
They'd be like, what the hell is he talking about?
But dog, that's what one of my favorite artists,
one of my favorite musicians, piano players,
him for that matter.
That's Domino.
That's crazy.
Did you ever see Stormy Weather?
I did not.
What about Cabin in the Sky?
No.
You saw Green Pastures?
No.
I saw a bunch of Green pastures when I was growing up
working on the farm. I damn sure you didn't see the movement. Oh, you know Lena Horne though, right?
I do know who Lena Horne is, yeah. Remember Ethel Waters? I heard of the name, I don't know her.
Not like I know obviously like Lena Horne. Oh man. I think
Not like I know obviously like Lena Horne.
Oh, I think.
Couple, I would like to have the piano.
Well, the first one, the original Batman, Jack Nichols.
Play the costume.
Yeah, I want that costume and I wore that pistol with Batman was flying in and he pulled out that long pistol. He said, come on, you gruesome son
of a. Man, I don't care. Look, Heath Ledger did an unbelievable job. I love Heath Ledger.
Whoa, unbelievable. He's the greatest Batman. He's a great Joker of all time.
But that's no disrespect to your kind.
Jack, boy Jack.
Yeah, Jack was good.
But Heath Ledger, what you like?
You like Jack over Heath Ledger?
They were very, I mean, Heath Ledger character
is really, really dark.
I could see that he had to go to a place. He got lost in character.
Yeah, man.
But Jack, man, that thing.
Jack, what else would I want?
I want some, I want some.
I guess the piano that Prince played in Purple Rain would be really cool. I want some.
I guess the PL of that Prince played in purple rain would be really cool.
Oh, snap.
That's a good one.
Purple rain.
Aw, man, that's a good one.
Hey.
All right, kid. That's a good one.
F you, Jimmy.
Hey, you just don't wanna accept it. They don't like it like they used to just like
your pops.
That's classic.
Oh, man, I'm not really. I'm trying to say what would I really want? I need some sports
memorabilia like something from the, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like LeBron some shoes or Jordan shoes, Kobe shoes or Jersey and stuff.
And I don't want no feeling stuff.
But I already got, I already got a LeBron ball.
Yeah.
I got, I got his 40,000 ball already.
Hey, but that shit was so funny that night. When I turned the ball around and it said 40,000 points.
Yeah.
Oh, that shit was hilarious.
28,000, man.
Look here, somebody just got a lot of money.
Lot of money, man.
28,000 off of some shoes that you can't wear?
Yeah. Yeah. Those are, those are, listen, they 20 million now.
Imagine what they, what they're going to be worth when they hold on to them for a few years.
There's no place like home. There's no place like home.
There's no place like home.
That's classic. Oh yeah. You know, do you know what kind of dog that was that Toto was?
Toto was, Toto was.
Uh, wait, don't say none, don't say none.
You got to be some type of terrier.
He is. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
Scottish. Nope.
They wait, wait, wait, wait.
Toto was was black, right? Yeah.
I'm trying to think how many Terriers are there.
That's a crazy group and they win more best in shows
than any other group.
You never gonna get it.
I am, I'm probably not.
He was a Karen.
He was a Karen Terrier.
Karen?
Karen.
K-E double R-Y?
C.
Oh, oh, damn.
Okay.
Damn.
I went to the Westminster dog show.
I loved it.
What do you mean?
I told y'all to be judged, remember?
It's one of the most fun events to be a part of.
The only thing I hate, man,
cause now I'm like big boy, like damn,
I want that dog, I want that dog.
I'd like to have that breed, I'd like to have that breed.
I really need to get a farm.
Now you need a little discipline.
You don't need no farm.
Cause you won't have time to tend to all the animals.
I want me a little miniature cow, a miniature goat,
a miniature horse, and a raccoon.
Hey, you know what's funny?
I always wanted a fair for some reason.
I never did get one, but I always wanted a fair.
They just seemed so cool.
I don't think they live that long, Ocho.
They don't?
No.
I mean, animals don't, I mean,
especially when you like the best,
I mean, you gotta understand, Ocho.
Like in the wild, they're not gonna live long
because, you know, they get hunted, something eats them.
So average or, you know, disease.
It's not like you can-
They should live longer if you domesticate them.
No, that makes no sense.
No, I think like,
but they're not meant to be domesticated.
That's the problem.
I know, but obviously if you do,
and then obviously you need, you know-
Ash, when you get that to talk about, Ash got to to talk about a big bowl. Look what you got on my what you say
By a farm in Texas
Hey if you if you move to Texas I'm going to
I
Ocho I thought I made it a bunch of clear. I'm staying away from Texas.
No, I'm saying, listen, I mean, no, we have the discipline at our big age where we can
move to Texas and be okay and focused.
We can have a singular focus on work and nothing else.
Here's the thing.
It's like when you're recovering at it, whatever the case may be. Let's just say,
let's just say, let's just say, Ocho, I drink and I'm alcohol.
Ocho, I gotta drive by a bar every day.
I gotta drive by a package store every day.
And I can't stop.
That's a good thing, huh?
Because you know what?
The more you do it, the more you drive by that bar, the more you drive by that bar and
create that discipline not to go in, the easier it gets over time.
If you and I move to Houston, every day, listen, if you and I move to Houston, regardless of
the jungle of beautiful, gorgeous, curvaceous women that they have out there at our disposal,
well at your disposal, I'm not available. But anyway, but imagine the more you're
able to do it, the more you see him, the more you see him out, you don't say
nothing, and you got them blinders on like you're a horse in a Kentucky Derby,
and you can't see nothing but nightcap, you can't see nothing but ESPN, you can't see nothing but Club Sheshe.
Over time, it becomes easier.
Oh, Joe.
It becomes routine.
How many times you going to a restaurant
and that guy hand you that dessert menu,
and you fool, and you order dessert, or you order coffee?
Now, I don't get the dessert,
but I'm with you when you say coffee. Exactly but I'm with you when you say a coffee.
Exactly.
I'm with you when you say a latte.
No, that's a completely different scenario.
Basically.
No, no, I ain't going.
I will.
Fuck.
I will.
I will go move with you then.
So Houston is off.
Forget it.
Yeah.
We ain't going.
Maybe, maybe I might be talking about Nashville.
Wait, where? Nashville Tennessee? Oh, hey
Like I like Nashville simply for the music the music
The different genres of music of live music you can go watch and attend but to live no
It's an up-and-coming city that's getting much better. It's getting much better, but I don't want to live there. I don't want to live, no. And it's an up and coming city that's getting much better. It's getting much better.
But I don't wanna live there.
I don't wanna live there.
Mm-mm.
The music, the jazz.
I need to focus.
Hey, the jazz bars, I've been in.
I need to be somewhere I can focus.
You can focus in Houston.
Everything is so clear, so crystal clear.
You can focus in Houston.
Cause I'm the Muir.
Are you shy?
That's where you're going to go?
Mm-hmm.
Hahaha.
Joey told me, hey, Joey let me talk. Uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, hey, hey, boy, hey, this thing here, this, oh.
I know if Jordan had money, he got home in like 17 states.
Hehehehehehe.
Oh man.
Like hell no.
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All right, it's time for our last segment of the evening.
It's time for Q&A.
Q&A.
Jordan Ash won't text us.
Only one person is typing though Ash.
Manny Bueno said first ever split Heisman.
I think it's fair.
Nah.
It might be close.
It might be extremely close.
But I don't, they're not splitting that award.
They ain't making two of those awards.
Oh, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah.
You talking about the Heisman?
Yes.
Oh yeah, that ain't happening.
Yeah.
Like I said, it might be close.
I think it might be extremely close, but I don't see it.
SearsBiz's O8 said,
Besides Oregon and UNLV 1013,
Jenny Gaines have been against FCF for group five opponents.
He played one pound five school all year.
He played Portland State, Utah State, Wyoming,
Georgia Southern, Nevada, Hawaii.
Come on, man.
Imagine if Croak Prime and Travis played
against Portland State, Hawaii, Wyoming, San Diego State,
Georgia Southern, Utah State, and three and 10 Nevada.
They make excuses and close their eyes for Gentie.
Oh Joe, what you think?
Hey, listen, there's something that they always bring up,
especially when it comes to draft, drafting,
especially scouts, they always bring up the level
of competition you're playing against.
Who we play.
Yeah, you know, and this is something
that can raise concerns, but I think either way,
what he's been able to accomplish
at the running back position
and putting himself into that group
and being eligible to win a Heisman
based on what he's accomplished,
regardless of who he's playing against,
is still commendable.
But scouts will always use that against you.
Especially when you come from,
when you go to a smaller school
and you play astronomical, the way he had this year.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You have to, yeah.
You have to play above, above and beyond when competition is at this level.
And that's, that's no disrespect to him or the team or the, or the, the entities he's playing against, but it just, it just, it is what it is.
It's just the way they are.
I agree.
Um, when you play at a level of competition,
you have to put up astronomical numbers.
You look at Randy, what he did at FCS when he was at Marshall.
You look at Jerry, what he did at Division Two,
Mississippi Valley State.
You got, Ocho, because if you putting up regular numbers,
you put up a, you in, you know, an HBCU,
and you put up a thousand yards as a receiver,
they ain't even really give you no attention.
You got to be spectacular.
Bro, I had 60 catches, 1300 yards, and 18 touchdowns in nine games.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So, you know, I had to be, I had to be all world, Ocho.
And you have to be because they like, look, this guy, he probably got his, his receiver
coach is probably the offensive coordinators and he's probably also coaching the running back.
So, you know, you got a running backs coach,
you got a tight ends coach, you got a wide receivers coach,
you got an O-line coach, you probably got tackles coach,
you got outside linebackers, inside linebackers,
DBs, corners, safeties.
They like, what are we doing here?
So, Jente has done what he was supposed to do.
Exactly.
Put the numbers up, going against inferior competition and he just put up no 150.
He put up the one night and he put up the 200.
That's what you have to do.
That's what you have to do.
So he did what he was supposed to do.
Uh, a dab Smith said, I don't give a damn what Bama fans say.
They didn't earn the right, uh, for a spot.
Three losses and not playing today for the conference chip
out of here.
False.
Yeah. Yeah. You might, you might not like it,
but again, you follow the money.
You follow the money.
That's all we need to remember.
So when Alabama gets into this playoffs,
remember I said it first, somebody gonna get bumped
because Alabama, follow the money,
that's all it comes down to at the end of the day.
All right.
Jonathan Watson said, how about the Mighty Ducks of Oregon?
Nod to the Mighty Ducks movie being the number one seed
and looking like they were quack quack their way to ATL
What you think Osho?
Listen everybody's been inconsistent this year
Everybody inconsistent this year, Georgia, Tennessee, Alabama
Florida LSU
Who else Texas Everybody's been up and down. Nobody's been dominant at
all. It just so happens that Oregon hasn't lost a game.
Yeah. But that's the thing I love about college.
They gonna quack quack. They deserve to quack quack their ass all the way to goddamn Atlanta.
Cause what? So you'll have to play three games, right?
Yeah.
No, no, no.
They have to win two games.
So if you play, if you play the first round,
you got to win that game and then you'll play another game.
And then the winner, and then, you know,
the two winners will play the four teams.
Right.
So you got three games, but that's a,
that's a boatload of money.
A boatload.
And who's gonna bring the money?
SMU or Bama?
Who's gonna bring the money?
Bama or Indiana?
Hey, well, that's shit.
Look, for me, look, I like Hey, I don't get nothing either way. I don't.
But I just know I just know how team they won't team that's gonna bet that fans follow Alabama.
Alabama travels. The Blue Bloods travel. Texas travels. Oh, yeah. The Blue Blade. Georgia.
You saw that stadium. Did you see how much red black was in that?
Crazy work. Yes
They travel I'm here. Man, that's better traffic not a clock this morning people. I wouldn't get my hair cut it
And like 1230
man, they all
They skew it
The game I think with the was the game of four,
and they already out there skewing.
That's crazy.
So, hey.
Wait, that early?
Because where I get my haircut, I mean, you can, you can, you can literally walk to the Mercedes Benz zone.
I mean, it's a good, it's a half a mile, but the parking, I mean, you want to pay $100 a park
or you want to pay $25 and walk a half a mile.
Most people go walk, play $25, walk a half a mile.
And plus you got more area where you can, you know,
you can grill, you know, you got the kids,
they throw in the football and they got their beer,
they drinking, you know, but yeah.
Teams like that, man, they travel, man.
They, hey, and at the end of the day, that's what they want.
They don't want to have, they don't want to have
Phil Stadium, they want it all the way Phil.
Jim Sam 92 is Bowers winning offensive rookie of the year
over Bow and Jayden, no.
No, he went a little over quarterback?
Come on, man.
He's gotta have, I mean, he's gotta be, woo.
He gotta be lights out.
Yeah.
He would have to be lights out.
And then the quarterback, and also, if he's lights out,
that means the quarterbacks can't be playing well.
Bless you.
Because if the quarterbacks are playing well,
I mean, look at Jayden Daniels' team.
They're like the second in the East.
The Broncos, I mean, they won eight,
they won what eight games.
It's just hard.
And he's two and nine?
I mean, they won two games.
Nah.
Nah.
No, but he's having a phenomenal rookie season.
He's gonna go over, he's probably gonna go well over a hundred catches.
Gonna go over a thousand yards.
You over a thousand already?
Nah, I think he got like 844.
Yeah, he'll be over there in two more games.
Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, he's definitely going to that.
He's gonna be way over a hundred catches on Joe.
He got an outside chance to break the tight end rec,
most receptions in a single season by tight end.
And he's looking through that rookie season.
If I'm not mistaken,
he'd probably be the second tight end to go over.
Nah, I think Kyle Pips did, maybe the third,
to go over a thousand yards.
Bless you.
Damn, thank you.
It is rookie season.
Mike Dicker did it.
His rookie season and Kyle Pips did it.
His rookie season, going over a thousand yards.
So he'll be a phenomenal company.
But no, I think,
I think Jayden after the way he played Sunday,
kind of after what he did to Tennessee Ocho,, I think he threw for three touchdowns ran for another
I think he got you know, I think he might have stepped back in front of uh, uh, uh, uh, bo
With that performance, right? But Bo has been playing but Bo has played well. He's been playing well
Got the Broncos right in the stick of it
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S as in Sam, F as in Frank, W as in William.
Who put this data,
where should Unc and Ash and Joy move to next?
70% said Houston, 30% said Nashville.
So we go into Houston.
Yeah, no we not.
Y'all going to Houston.
I guess they could be working remote.
George, you gonna get a lot of miles, do you?
Oregon wins the big 10 title.
Dylan Graver will throw for four touchdown leads.
The number one Oregon Ducks pass the number three
Penn State Nipmeany Lions 45 to 37.
Nico Reed picked up Drew Allard and ended any chance that Penn State had of tying this game
getting into the overtime situation. Clemson wins the ACC title with a 56-yard-off field goal to stun SMU, SMU first year in the ACC,
but Clemson is back atop the ACC
as they win it with a 56 yard walk-off field goal.
The Georgia Bulldogs win the SEC title game again.
The number five Bulldogs clinched the first round by 22-19
with a walk-off win in overtime
as they beat the number two Texas
despite Carson Beck's injury.
Arizona State will make the college football playoffs.
They won 45-19 over Iowa State to win the big 12 title.
Cam Scabow of Arizona State,
16 rushes, 170 yards, two touchdowns.
He was sensational,
and he's been sensational all year long.
They're headed to the college football playoff
with the demolition over Iowa State.
And the number 10 Boise State
grabbed the college football spot.
They beat number 19 UNLV 21-7
to win the Mount West Championship.
Aston Gentey ran for 209 yards on 32 carries.
Now he has 2,497 yards.
He's 132 yards short of breaking Barry Sanders
single season rushing record.
That concludes this edition of Nightcap.
I'm up, he's Ocho.
We'll see you tomorrow night after Sunday Night Football.
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