Club Shay Shay - Nightcap - Hour 2: Colorado dominant, Travis Hunter Heisman odds, Hunter claps back

Episode Date: October 9, 2024

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson recap the best moments of the college football season thus far. Top stories include Colorado taking down UCF, Travis Hunter Heisman odds, Hunter throwing shade at Richard Sherman’s “bland” comments and much more!03:18 - Colorado Buffaloes take down UCF04:10 - Travis Hunter moving up in Heisman odds13:15 - Travis Hunter wears a “bland” t-shirt following Richard Sherman comments(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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That's he was, he's transferred from Arkansas, right? KJ Jefferson wasn't he at Arkansas last couple of years. Okay. Speaking of now it's time for money moves presented by DraftKings. Travis Hunter has... What we doing kids? Yeah, we got him. We got him.

We moving on up. We, hey, we moving on up like the Jefferson. Travis Hunter now has the third best Heisman odds. Jalen Milrow from Alabama plus 225 is number one. Cam Ward, Miami plus 500, number two. Travis Hunter plus 750, number three. Dylan Gabriel, Oregon plus 1200, he's fourth. Statistically, Hunter has put up elite numbers as receiver.

He entered the weekend ranked fourth naturally in receptions, sixth in receiving yards, tied for fourth in TD catches with five. He called nine passes a day, 89 yards and a touchdown and grabbed one of the best cover corners in the game. Colorado came from behind with a win over Baylor last week. Hunter had the game winning fourth fumble on the goal line. Hunter played 128 snaps on Saturday. According to Fox broadcast, he's averaging about 130 snaps per game. When we talk about hyping, right? There's so many different factors that go into it.

But what Coach Hunter is doing, it needs to be taken into account. This is something special. There are very few players that are able to play on both sides of the ball. There are very few players that are able to play on both sides of the ball and affect the game on both sides of the ball. The fact that Travis Hunter is able to do both, it speaks volumes. This is no disrespect to Cam Ward. This is no disrespect to Jay Lemon-Roe and what they're doing. Quarterbacks, most of the time, they always win the award based on what they're doing. Quarterbacks, most of the time, they always win the award based on what they're doing.

Always. But what Travis Hunter is doing this year, it needs to be taken a little bit more serious. A little bit more serious. I don't think people really understand, especially those that are voting. I don't know who did the goddamn odds. Who's doing the goddamn odds?

Travis Hunter should be first, no matter what. Based on what he's done so far far this season already. He should be first He's affecting both sides of the ball. It's it's not unheard of it's been done before But hasn't been done before like this at this level. No the way he's doing it The intercept no affecting the game winning the game the fumble on the goal line at receiver. Putting up a good number. Charles, come on, and they keep Charles Wilson did play offense, but he did not play like this every.

He didn't play if they had 70 snaps, he wasn't playing 65 of those. He had a package in which he played and he played extremely well. We're not going to minimize Charles Wilson. He did. He became the first defensive player to win the Heisman. But he did not play as many snaps on the offensive side of the football as Travis Hunter is playing. He's coming out of the game. They're running 75 plays and he's only missing two or three of those plays.

And he's missing five or six snaps on the defensive side. So basically he's playing all but nine Maybe ten snaps in a game unheard of Yes, but young young bull condition is that this world young book listen much respect to Travis, you know I know you're gonna see this. I already gave you a message I have my shitey on so I know you're gonna get this message if I don't get that dm with that jersey. I'm telling you monday fedex. I I don't want to get nothing. I don't want no excuses any money is coming straight to me Coming straight to me This was the most complete game that i've seen them play. Maybe since Prime has been there.

Their ability to run the football, the way they protected Shadour, Shadour through the football, the way they, look, they got some, I mean, late in the ball game, UCF ran the football, got some plays, but I thought they did a great job of containing him early on in the ball game, doing enough to disrupt his rhythm. I mean,

I don't, I don't, when I look at him, but I don't think they should have ever been concerned about his ability to throw the football. He's more dangerous with his legs than he is his arm. But I thought this was the most complete game, the way they dominated this game. They got after the quarterback. They did a great job of protecting Shador should door You got a great job of throwing the football But I thought this was one of the more complete ball games if not the most complete I'm talking about when you look at running growing Stopping to run getting after the quarterback defending. I thought this was and it was on the road Yeah, I thought see you played what hell of a ball. Yeah. They play really well.

I'm happy for prime. I'm happy for prime. This is what one more week you get to you get to keep them off your back. One more week you get to keep them off your back and listen they form one this year. They form one so far. You know a lot of people say they wouldn't be wouldn't even be in this position. What I like what I like for Prime is improvement year to year. The improvement year to year. All they need is a little time. All they need is a little time to get the right people, the right dogs in here, you know,

and next year it's gonna be even better. And it's gonna be continued, it's gonna be a gradual build. Nothing overnight. A gradual build, nothing overnight, a gradual build and improvement is there. We can see it. Yeah, it had to be Ocho for the simple fact that man, they went one and 12. And y'all expect the man to go in there

and go to the end to go to the damn Rose Bowl or the damn Peach Bowl, his first year in the Alpha team went one and 12. Where have they ever done that at? Nowhere. And oh, he all hype. I mean, Coach Saban didn't win no 12 games his first year there.

Hype my ass. It's gonna take time. And Coach Saban had a bunch of four and five star recruits. I'm not so sure how many four or five star recruits Prime had before he got to Colorado. But it's gonna take some time. But I was very impressed with the way they played today. I mean, if you look at Ocho, they had 14 points in the first quarter.

They got 13 in the second quarter. They got another 14 in the third quarter and was another seven. So they were complete. They didn't take their foot off the gas. They did an unbelievable job today of running the football. I thought they did a better job of protecting the football. I thought they'd be done a great job of getting after the quarterback, attacking the line of scrimmage,

did a good job in pass coverage. There's nothing, you know, look, I'm sure Coach Primer said, hey, I'm pleased with the win. But I heard Coach Saban said, you know what? He said, to win and play poorly is a kiss of death. I said the way it was explained to me, you never accept anything in a win,

you wouldn't in a loss. But people don't understand that because you know why they just, hey, we won the ball game. You can't let your players accept that type of attitude because that'll get you beat. It hurt. That'll get you beat.

I don't want to wait till I get beat to get your undivided attention. I wanna be in a situation where I can get your attention. That way we don't be in this find ourselves in that situation. Well, I tried to tell y'all this was gonna happen. Now maybe you'll listen next time. I loved what Coach Saban said.

I loved the way Prime said, we can't be happy with just winning. That's not good enough. Who they got next, who they got next? Who they played next? They got in at Kansas State or at home? They're home against Kansas State. Kansas State really good. They really good. I want to go to the game. You think I can get a ticket? Yeah you call prime you get your own. I'm about to go to the game. I hope it's cold too so I can put on my dickies. My little dickie overalls and my hoodie and my Tims.

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We got what we do. Do we got to say about buddy? We got we got shirms. Okay. Okay. He said he was saying that his skills are defensively second to none. He's a true corner. He has tremendous instincts, great ball skills, but he said that he was bland as a receiver. I get what Sherman's saying that he's not a like, like Chase and

Jefferson polished receiver. Okay. OK, OK, OK. That's what he said, like he's an athlete player receiver. And because he's so much more athletic than a lot of people that's defending him, he's going to make a play. OK, OK, I understand. He's going to get the best of it. OK, I think I think coach,, I think of time put shurm and Trav in contact with each other and they were able to have a conversation

Look, he says as a receiver, I just think he's kind of bland Sherman a former NFL quarterback Remember shurm was a wide receiver. He went he got he went to Stanford as a wide receiver He ended up moving to the defense back said Said on the Lions, or Armand St. Brown podcast, St. Brown asked Sherman if he thinks Hunter can play both wide receiver and cornerback in the NFL. Sherman said, hell no. You know that, right? You're talking crazy. But there's been a lot, there's been a lot.

You and I think, yes, he can play packages. But nobody, I don't believe anybody think he's gonna play every snap on offense, every snap on defense. Nobody believes that. Do we believe that he can be a defensive back and have a package of plays on offense? Yes, yes, because we've seen it before.

We've seen Prime do it, Charles Wood, uh, Charles wasn't there for the couple guys JJ. What had a couple of packages as a defensive lineman But to play every snap so the NFL say to try to play 120 snaps in an NFL game Well, listen, you'll have to have the endurance of the Ethiopia, you know Ethiopian runners No, that's the kind of endurance you're going to have to have. But when I think about it, I mean, when I think about Travis Hunter and how special he is, even at the receiver's position, I understand what we're sure to talk about in a sense. But I understand, I'm also understanding how much work and how much time he has to work

on his craft from a receiver standpoint. He's so athletic and gifted. Once they sharpen up all the tools, man, it's a wrap. If he get drafted, he has to get drafted as a wire receiver anyway, cause that's what the money is. That's what the money I see Travis Hunter. Forget the money. Oh Joe, where do you, where, forget the money. Working out, where can I thrive? Where's my best chance to be the most productive player I could possibly be? I think it's a little bit out of the ball.

Don't do me like that. He got to play receiver. He got to play receiver because you got to understand the money's on the receiving end. Now, and then the packages, the packages at the DB, boom, they got to give you like a little bonus for that. Ocho you think. Oh, what package? I'm saying when he when he gets to the NFL, he won't have small packages like a nickel. He could be the he could be the nickel on third. I bet I bet you he'll play more snaps on defense and offense.

And I bet he gets it. No, no, no, no, no, no. Listen, listen, as his agent, as his agent, he probably won't hire me. But as his agent, I'm telling him, man, buddy, no, no, no. Listen, listen, as his agent, as his agent, he probably gonna hire me. But as his agent, I'm telling him, man, buddy, man, listen here, man, let me tell you something. You want to play receiver. You got receivers making 30 million a year. So by the time it's time for you to get paid, you talk about 45, maybe 50. And matter of fact, they got to pay you 50 because you play both sides of the ball. We can integrate that into your contract, you know, and, and, and, and,

and, you know, the fact the fine print. What you talking about? Now, you don't want you don't want to be in. You think they got paid? I'm I'm just looking at it from a skill set and where his skills are right now. He's a much better defensive back than he is a wide receiver. I don't, I don't agree with you simply for the fact that what he's doing on defense is instinctive based on watching film and knowing what's coming as

opposed to looking at what he can do at receiver. Okay. Oh, Joe, let me ask you a question. How many comebacks have you seen him run? How many comebacks have you seen him run? Well, I'm not, I had, I had. Out your, what you mean you have it? That's a wide receiver.

And you haven't seen him in two years? Wait a minute, wait a minute. Don't jump down my throat now. I'm on the base of what I've seen. Normally receivers gotta run comebacks. He can probably run comebacks. I've seen him make plays. I ain't say probably, I said,

Ocho, how many comebacks have you seen him run? Well, maybe they don't have comebacks in that offense. You asked me how many comebacks have I seen him run. Well, they don't have comebacks in that offense. What you want me to say? I ain't seen it. How many digs? Oh, I just seen him run a dig. I've seen him run a dig and don't have comebacks in the offense. What you want me to say? I ain't seen it. How many digs? Oh, I've seen him run a dig.

I've seen him run a dig and come out the back door. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. I've seen him take, hey, I've seen him, I've seen him catch a slant and reverse, and reverse field and come back out where he ran the slant at. Ocho, I'm just saying, looking at it,

studied, but since he's been at Colorado, watched him a little bit of Jackson State because a lot of when they came on the ESPN, I would pay attention. But watching him, I think his skill set for DB is far superior, far superior, because like I said, he's a natural DB. He also he could just he just roll out of bed like, hey, I got a boy right here. His back, his back pedal, the way he can back pedal and the way he can transition. Now, you know, in order to play receiver, these guys will choke you out here if you can't release.

Oh, see that I don't know about. I don't know. I don't know about that part of his game. I don't know about that. His ladder movement is his, his ladder movement is better. He seems like a long stride. He is. He tall. He tall in your face. He like 6'3". We could work on that. We could work on that. He tall. He taller than you think. We could work on that. He come train with me. Train with me for three months. Man listen I get him open in the phone booth. I get him open in the phone booth. Six, all we got to do is shorten up your gates, shorten up your steps. And once you get out that dead area off the line, then you can open up all you want.

I just, like I said, I think he's phenomenal. He's a good athlete that I've seen with my own eyes. And I've seen some pretty good ones, like I said. I was in the year, came into year after time. And so I watched him and I was in the league when Bo was in the league. There are two of the greatest athletes, you know, when you can play a professional sport to get baseball and I played three. But go ahead. Yeah, I'm with you.

I mean, everybody in NFL played two sports, three sports in high school, but to do it professionally, that was me. Yeah. So it's unbelievable. Like I said, I just I just want to see him. I think he's better suited at the end of the day. He's going to I don't think he has to make a decision. I think the team will help him make that decision. They go see, so we will give you some packages on the opposite side of the football. But I think teams gonna help you make that decision. They gonna say, son, we gonna give you some packages on the offensive side of the football.

But I think, see, Ocho, you're looking at it from a pure monetary standpoint. I'm looking at it, I'm looking at it from the best. Look, for me, a monetary standpoint, tell a wide receiver. But where can I make my bones? What could I be the best at, tight end? But what could I make my bones? What could I be the best at tight end? I'm telling you man. I'm telling you now. I've seen see here's the thing. I give you an example

Top now if he had Tyree speed, I was like, okay, you're right. Oh, you know, you don't have that kind of speed That's that's necessary No, but guys that don't have that kind of speed. What can they do? necessary. No, but guys that don't have that kind of speed, what can they do? It tell people at home for guys that don't have Tyree speed and they play wire receiver. What can they do? Oh Joe. You couldn't touch them in a foreign move. They were technically, they're technically sound. There's a reason why Steve Largent when he retired had all the records.

He ran four seven, but he was a route running technician. Guys that aren't speed merchants, they can run the route tree and make every route look the same. The release, the slant, looks just like the quick out. Looks just like the smoke. Looks just like the over. Looks just like the end, the comeback.

He's fast though. He fast, he's four three. He's four three. And's fast, he's 4'3". He's 4'3". And if he's not 4'3", he will be by the time it's, by the time it's drive time. Like 4'2' is great. That's a great tool to have in your toolbox, but you don't literally have to be 4'2' to be effective.

Look at Justin Jeffers. Look at Jamar Chase. I just, Ocho, you're talking about elite receivers that run routes. You just said you haven't seen them run the whole tree. I'm in heaven because it's not a part of their offense. I mean, their specific offense. But what I do see him do, I know what he can do when he get that ball in his hands.

I know that. Yes. Ocho, do you know, Ocho, you know how good these DBs are if you can't consistently release. They in your chest. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Any weakness. We gonna work on that. We gonna work on that. I got you. We got you.

But that's what I'm saying. But I don't know even if his releases would ever be where his DB skills are. Some things he just got. God given. Right right at the bed He just a he just woke up god made that angel that long angle He could be fluid he came back because normally, you know guys that are corners that are long You know, it's hard for them to flip the hips natural natural You know, it's hard for them to flip the hips. He can flip his hips. Natural, natural.

He can flip his hips. And that's what you got to be able to do, Ocho, because you got to be able to turn and run. You got to be able to turn and drive. You got to be back and come forward. Hey, hey, you know I used to give him hell, boy, back in 87, boy. Huh? Shit. I know what you're talking about.

It's an A. But, but and I, and I, and I, you know, I told time said this, time said, had I just like focused on being a wide receiver, just focused on that. I could have went to Hall of Fame and he could have because he had that kind of thing. You got to realize in the time. Oh, easy. It looks like he ain't got damn running down there. Sometimes. No, he didn't. It didn't. But he could fly. Hey there. It's Michael Lewis, Arthur of going infinite, money ball, the blind side and liar's poker. On the latest season of my podcast against the rules, I'm exploring what it means to be a sports fan in America and what the rise of sports betting is doing to our teams, our states, and ourselves. Join me and listen to Against the Rules on America's number one podcast

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