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Ocho, we talked about it, the commander stunned the Lions 45-31 to advance to the NFC Championship game.
It's their first advancement since 1992.
Jayden Daniels threw for 299 yards, two touchdowns.
Jerry Groff had a brutal day and this is what concerned me Ocho. When your defense is a little sus with all those injuries,
the last thing you can do is turn the ball over.
And you definitely can't turn it over four times.
You play double. You gave a big six up.
You took points off the board with Jameson Williams.
You gave him a short field to get another touchdown.
And at the end, that that little interception didn't matter.
But you still have four turnovers. Detroit defense had no answer for
Washington's offense. They racked up almost 500 yards of total offense only
had to punt the ball once. The commanders will face the winner of the Eagles in
the Rams game. The Lions season ends with massive disappointment and they
expect to have a huge turnover. it's reported that both coordinators are probably going to leave Ben Johnson
being rumored to go into the, uh, Las Vegas Raiders and, uh, Aaron Glenn,
potential the Jeffs or the Saints.
We'll see how that plays out.
But Detroit, we have to wait another year.
Very disappointing season.
15 wins, a lot of pro bowl players on that sound that football team
Oh Joe, but the first Super Bowl here's for the Detroit Lions. Yeah, we'll have to wait another year
Oh Joe, let me tell you something man. Listen, I know the Lions lost and
Obviously golf has to play better with the defense being held together by duct tape. Basically a third string out there
They have a few playmakers.
That's pretty much it.
Obviously, golf has to understand in order for you to even have a chance,
a winning chance, you can't turn the ball over.
You just can't. You can't.
That first half of football.
I tweeted and I asked and a lot of people answered,
when was the last time you seen a half of football that exciting and that good
Where teens were scoring back-to-back?
Almost every it seemed like almost every series now there was well
Well, you saw you saw three weeks ago with Buffalo I think in 2019
18
The tree man a young the cheese and the cheese football was like that every Sunday, every
Sunday.
But the fact that we were able to get this treat tonight in the upset that the commanders
put on the lines was absolutely phenomenal.
And I want people to understand how important it is and why teams invest in quarterbacks
and why they pay quarterbacks the kind of money they pay. Because you get a franchise quarterback like this it turns your franchise around immediately.
Immediately. You have to think, they haven't been in the NFC championship in the past 33 years.
The past 33 years. This is the first time they scored 45 points.
45 points, which is a franchise record in the playoffs.
Man, I don't even know what to say.
I'm so goddamn excited, obviously, for Jane Daniels, for
Commander's fans that have waited for this, for who knows how long.
Who knows how long?
Just to be in contention, just to be able to compete week to week, and
now to be playing in the NFC Championship at the 33 year hiatus is awesome, man.
It's awesome.
Yeah.
You pay double for turnovers, Ocho, but it doesn't matter if the
team can't capitalize on their turnovers.
And when they turned the ball over to Detroit, Washington made them play the
ultimate price, they got points out of them.
Except that interception at the end of the first half, O Joe. I don't know golf didn't play well today. There's no way around it
He didn't play well. He got Jameson Williams. I don't know why he would throw that pole so flat because the guys in a trail position
He's gonna jet it if you throw it flat. He's gonna jet it with what we that we call it chat. We call it
Yeah, every time what we mean is that he's
We call it jet we call it every time what we mean is that he's like
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All right, yeah Yeah. Yeah, it was.
But when you turn the ball over like that, get Jay, Jay Daniels, man.
I don't know this rookie season that he's having.
Look, you know, we go back and talk about rookie season.
We saw CJ Stroud had an unbelievable season.
He was rookie of the year.
We say RG three season.
He was rookie of the year.
But for him to do it because we've seen
rookie quarterbacks go to the playoff if I'm not mistaken I think Mark Sanchez
went to the playoff but that was a defensive led football team we saw Joe
Flacco go to the playoffs that was a defensive led football team this is an
offensive led football team their quarterback is asked to do an awful lot
and he's like okay let me it. Whatever you need from me.
As a rookie, you're not supposed to be this goddamn good this early.
Do you see his composure on a zero blitz?
Three men coming right at him.
He's sitting there chilling.
Yes. Just waiting.
Just waiting.
He hit hurts twice.
Zero blitz.
What the hell?
I'm so bad.
Yes.
Brown makes an unbelievable catch.
Terry McLaurin, they catch him with a bomb.
They catch him with a blitz.
He wasn't blitzed because the safety
was in the hole, but he takes a terrible
angle and McLaurin
hits the
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and then he's gone.
But Ocho, the thing, we knew this.
First of all, they're a pressure team.
Detroit's a pressure team to begin with.
We know once they got the lead, now you gotta take
even more chances.
Now, hey guys, let's just catch the ball.
It's a wrap.
They missed a tackle, you could hit your head
on the goal post.
It's a wrap. They miss a tackle, you can hit your head on the goal post. It's a wrap.
But Jared, and this, this what really concerned me
because Jared golf can be great where he goes,
we've seen him do this, Ocho.
Weeks out of time.
Go 18 of 18 for a game.
But we've seen him turn the ball,
throw five picks against the Houston Texans.
We've seen him and they win the ball game.
We've seen him turn the ball over two times, three times in him, and they win the ball game. We've seen him turn the ball over two times,
three times in a game, and they win the ball game.
But you can't turn the ball over against a team that's
this explosive on the offensive side of the football.
When they got playmakers, when you got Ertz, who's
a three-time Pro Bowl player, you got Terri McClearn,
who's going to another Pro Bowl, who's an outstanding receiver,
and you got guys playing exceptional. Brown making big
time plays. Guys running the football, the offensive line. When you have a player
like a Jaden Daniels at that position, which is the quarterback position,
everybody believes in him. The offensive line blocks a little harder. Guys run a
little harder. Guys make tougher and tougher catches
for you because they believe so, hey, I can't let this guy down.
I believe in it.
The whole team, now the defense like, hey, let's get the ball back.
Now all of a sudden it seems like the ball has a magnet in it and it's distracted to
the other side of the football.
I've said this before, you pay double for turnovers.
And when you're, I believe Detroit was the better pay double for turnovers and when you're I believe
Detroit's it was the better team
But guess what happens on show when you turn the ball over that team that you might be better than
You pull them up
Yeah, and and also what I like with the running game because
Jayden Daniels is such a threat similar to Lamar Jackson. I'm not saying he's Lamar Jackson.
I'm just saying the fact that he has the defense
to be able to hold, to be able to hold.
When he put that ball in Eckles' belly,
or he put that ball in Brian Robinson's belly,
and he make them end, sit for just a little bit,
allow them guards to go up to the second level
and get that block, then you getting
five, six yards to pop every time. Okay level and get that block. Then you getting five, six yards apart every time.
Okay.
And then the end you want to crash down, you know what?
I'm gonna take it and go on and go ahead.
Yeah.
That's not your responsibility though.
Yeah.
That's what I don't get.
They got it fourth and two.
Yeah.
That's not your responsibility.
You have contained your responsibility is contained.
If he runs for a touchdown on the opposite side,
Coach, I don't know what you want me to do.
That's not you.
That's why I couldn't coach Ocho.
He knows his responsibility is contained.
Why would you take Ocho?
I don't give a damn.
Hey, I'm going to be looking right here at my gap.
Right, right. No, what about Ocho? I don't care a damn. Hey, I would be looking right here my gap All right, right. What about oh, I don't care. They got nothing to do with me
This is my responsibility over here
And when you deal with a guy like him or you deal with a guy like Lamar one false step the man
Had a coach left. Oh, yeah tell us all the time son
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That's why they want you to hold contain.
Do your responsibility.
Nothing in the A gap, nothing in the B gap,
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And the funny thing about it is you got your eyes in the backfield on the fake pitch that's going the opposite way anyway.
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You wouldn't have been able to get there.
What you gonna do? What you gonna do?
Chase him in the end zone and have everybody thinking that that's your guy?
That's all you gonna do?
Chase him in the end zone and everybody's like,
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Ocho, if guys would just do their responsibility,
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I got the a gap.
Arnold has contained.
He must not contain means nothing gets outside of him.
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I got this hammer in my hand. I got the momentum and I'm not going to relinquish it
Maybe if you stop him on fourth down, who knows maybe that takes some of the wind out of the sail
It gives you some momentum. But what do they do? They go to score touchdown
I get it
First game. Yeah golf pick the worst time to have one of his worst games of his career.
You turned them all over like that in the post season. You're losing probably
1000, probably 999 times out of a thousand.
You're going to lose a game. If you give up a big six,
you throw a pick in the end zone. You fumble, look, like I said, it was four turnovers,
he had three, he had three picks and a fumble.
That last one, Ojo, the game was basically,
I mean, you already, what you're down 14 points,
so you're not coming back, you're not coming back anyway.
Bro, you cannot play that bad in that moment.
You're too much of a veteran quarterback
to be that reckless with the football.
And then you, okay.
This is why they tell.
And I get it.
I get Jerry golf.
He's like, this is a big game.
This is a vision around the playoff game.
Let me chase, but you're not used to chasing.
So you don't know where those guys are coming from.
You see the thing is once a, you and I, somebody get a pick.
The first thing we do, okay.
Where does they, cause, we're the stay.
Cause somebody coming to get you.
They're coming to get you.
So I just be, okay, hey, let me,
cause the one time I didn't do that,
I got my clock clean.
The first thing, the first, all I can see is like,
I'm falling.
Listen, rule number one, when there's an interception
and you on the off of the team,
you keep your head on the swivel.
Hey, listen, you pursue, but you keep your head on the swivel.
Cause you don't know where it's coming from.
No.
They can't block back anymore, Ocho.
But if you're bringing your ass to the ball, they're going to knock
and you see what happens.
The first thing to hit was his back, his head.
He never saw Lovu.
He never saw Lovu.
He never saw it.
And he put his helmet right up on his mofo chin. And then they said that there should have been
a penalty called on that play. But if you have someone trying to make a tackle on the play,
why can't you block him? Even though it is a quarterback, he had the chance to stop.
Oh, cause he went. Okay, okay, okay. I understand. And you know, it's funny in Jayden Daniels also tonight, again,
commander's fan, if you're commander's fan, you in the chat, you, you should,
you should be happy.
You should be happy.
And I said it when the game was going on, despite no matter who wins his game, if
you're a commander's fan and you know, you have Jayden Daniels, you should be
happy and excited for the next decade because you know what's to come.
There have been five quarterbacks that have made a conference
championship in NFL history.
And they were here.
Sean King in 99, Ben Roethlisberger in 2004, Joe Flacco in 2008,
Mark Sanchez, obviously that defense led, that defensive led Jets,
Brock Purdy in 2022 and and now Jane Daniels.
They, a young boy was a special man.
But if, but if you think about the old show, think about the guys you mentioned.
Now that 99 team, that team had John Lynch, Rondé Barber, Warren Sapp, and David
Brooks and Simeon Rice.
So that's five guys.
I mean, Brooks in the Hall of Fame.
Sapp's in the Hall of Fame.
Lynch is in the Hall of Fame.
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is in the Hall of Fame.
So that's four Hall of Famers.
Simeon Rice could easily be in the Hall of Fame.
He has some issues.
Reporters don't really care about it.
But that's a defensive-based football team.
Joe Flacco, do I need to say what they had?
Suggs, Ray Lewis, Ed Reed, I won't say anymore. Look at Mark Sanchez, look at what that defensive,
that's a Rex Ryan team, that's a defensive based football team. Brock Purdy's team, that was,
look they had outstanding weapons but they played very, very, very good defense. They put so much on Jane Daniels plate.
Yeah.
And he eats it all.
He's better than advertised.
I thought he could be good,
but there's always a learning curve.
And look, there's, and the partner sees it, Ocho,
we started, I don't know, Ocho,
Bo Nigs might sneak in there and get some of that,
get some of them a rookie of the year, Bo. Man, that's your, hey, that's what I'm saying., old joke. Bo niggas might sneak in there, get some of them. Get some of them rookie of the year, Bo.
Man, that's your bitch.
Mm-hmm.
He throw a deep breath.
Hold my beer.
Exhale.
It's definitely gas.
Hold my beer.
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Yeah, he is.
But that my homeboy go fire on the way.
The man, they got him going down.
He superman's it.
He finds Kelsey. But I told you nephew A, he don't have the legs that he once had. But he's a professional get open guy. That's what Travis Kelsey is now. Can he run like he once could? No. No. Had he been able to run like he once could, he'd probably have 200 plus yards today. But he can't run like that. Yeah. But what he can do is still get open and he can see things like he and my homeboys
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Oh Joe, what we had seen them have for the past six years.
That wifi, but when it needed it, you know, where you going?
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Remember Ocho, he would have had another one.
They sat him out last year
because they was already locked into the three seed.
The thing that's most impressive about him,
as great as he is in the regular season,
he's even better in the post season.
And that's not a knock on anybody.
The two top tight ends for me or him and Gronk
I think it's him and Gronk
I'm taking trial
That's not to say I don't like Gronk. I think Gronk is phenomenal
His relationship with Brady is sick. It's just like what what what try I'm having with my homeboy
But you can't deny you can't deny the numbers
But you can't deny, you can't deny the numbers.
Regular season, the Pro Bowls, the All-Pros, the big game after big game after big. Have you ever left a playoff game?
No.
And say, man, Trav let us down, man.
You mean he ain't play good today.
You, I mean, oh Joe, and I'm talking about in the float with the money.
We shove it all in the, hey, it's finality now.
The playoffs is all about finality.
It ain't no, Hey, we'll look at the tape.
We'll bounce back next week.
Next week is eight months from now.
This guy has been money 172 postseason receptions.
He's far away.
He's not done. He has
2020 yards that second all-time. Yeah, we know Jerry
Jerry's the go not just because of what he did in the post in the regular season
When you ever see a game when you say we man Jerry and Jerry let us down in the postseason
He's too and and you're in yards and touchdown he's a, he's two in yards and touchdown.
He's a tight end.
He's a tight end and he has a thousand catches
and a whole lot of thousand catches.
Guys, what is it?
10, 12 Ocho?
Only what I think, I think Gonzo it has the record.
He has like 1300.
I think Whitten has like 1100 and I think he's the next tight end.
He has a thousand.
I think Gates had like nine, I think Gates had nine, maybe nine something.
And then everybody else, you know, it's kind of after me and, and, and, but he, he, for me, Ocho and the most
100 catch playoff games in postseason.
Can I interest you in that?
I tied in.
He's won in most hundred yard games.
He's won in catches.
He's two in yards.
He's two in touchdowns.
Most of that possible too long.
If you think about it, if he was on any other team, it wouldn't be the same.
The production, the numbers, you know, the accolades wouldn't be the same
and just the right fit, the right offense, the right quarterback, the right play
calling, the right creativity and everything.
The rest takes it, take care of itself.
He went to the pro bowl with Alex Smith.
Now, no, he didn't talk about this guy like we do now until he got my homeboy.
And he was a phenomenal player.
Yes.
He got, I think he's going to 10 straight probos.
You gotta be good to go to 10 straight.
I think he's going to 10 straight Pro Bowls. You gotta be good to go to 10 straight.
And there are times that he had a kettle,
not had those all-world seasons.
He might have been another,
he might have a couple of more first team All-Pros.
Brock Bowers had a historic season,
but the 10 consecutive Pro Bowls for a tight end.
What he's been able to do, his body of work,
when it's all said and done, I think right now
it's just he and Gronk at the table having a discussion.
I don't know, boy, we don't need to do,
we don't need to discuss it among ourselves.
We'll let other people discuss it.
I think it's them two.
I love them both, watched them both.
It's funny, they both got the same number.
Both played, you'll probably say what it's all said and done.
All time, yeah.
They played with the two greatest quarterbacks of all time.
That definitely helps.
But what he's been able to do, man, like I said,
he's at this point in time,
he doesn't have the legs that he once had.
Very savvy. He's just a professional guy the legs that he once had. Very savvy.
He's just a professional guy that knows how to get over it.
Very savvy, being able to read defenses.
And the funny thing about it, not only getting open,
is him and my home be on the same page
and knowing when to settle.
Knowing where to settle, knowing where to be at.
And every time, man, never fail.
Uncho, if you play Kansas City,
and if you play a Steve Spagnola defense,
the moment he feels threatened,
he's coming with the bomb list.
He's finna blow it up.
The moment you threaten him, he's coming.
Hell, I know that.
How the Texans don't know that?
Bro, they gonna come, if you threaten him,
he's coming with the blitz.
He gonna blow it up.
He'll throw caution to the wind.
Damn that safety in the middle of the field.
I'm coming to get you.
Seven sacks, they sacked him seven times.
What, they had seven sacks in the fourth quarter?
Three by George, no, Carlophodus.
Carlophodus, yeah.
Hey, they got after him.
CJ was back, CJ was calling him.
Look, they did a great job.
I think, you know what?
Carlophodus got him early, but he tackled him out of the line, he kinda tweaked that ankle.
Yeah, but the thing is with Kansas City, you know this Ocho. And I thought Texas did a good job,
they didn't turn the ball over. I thought Joe Mixon ran the ball well enough. Yeah. But they're
gonna have to get better on the offensive line
That's that's that's that's that's that's the next thing they do now, Joe
They got look tank Dale. Yeah tank Dale's gonna miss some time or Joe. You don't miss some time I wouldn't count on him coming back next year
early, I
Don't know what they're gonna do with Stefan Diggs if you're gonna take I don't think no, you know
Nobody's gonna give him that 3030 million coming off an ACL injury.
So he might have to take a one year deal. I don't know if he wants it for it to be
there. I would look at staying there because I got a really good quarterback.
I got Nico Collins on one side. I like Dalton shows at the tight end, bro.
That's a bull job job that you did on that pass blocking. I ain't ain't looking
at, bro. I ain't saying you gotta be Mark Bavaro or Gronk or George Kittle, but bro you can't do that. Or Gumbu Wale, that's some bull
jive. Two guys should be able to block, a running back at a tight end should be able to block a
defensive end. Two guys should be able to, unless it's Reggie or one of these all-worlds LT something
like that, ain't no way that's it.
That was half of it.
That's half of it.
That's it.
That ticked me off.
Obviously, a lot of chirping, obviously,
from some prominent figures in NFL
that are part of the NFL in general,
talking about some of the calls that were made
in favor of the Chiefs.
We hear this all the time,
especially around the postseason time.
Sometimes it's regular season as well.
It seems calls are always convenient when it matters most for them to give them whatever it may be.
You know, and one of the things that bothered me that's starting to bother me just a little bit, I love Mahomes.
I love everything they're doing.
It's just that Mahomes is intentionally playing with defenders to draw some of these, draw some of these.
Oh, he slowed down and the guy pushed him like, bro, you still in bound.
And then he went limp.
He went, he went limp on the boat joke.
But he was still in bound.
Go get your ass out of bound.
And it's forcing the ref to throw flags and they get the refs are starting to get a
little, a little jumpy.
So every time, but my homes is playing around.
He's doing it purposely because he's taking advantage of the rules and knowing
that he could take advantage of it.
And he flopping sometime.
And the late slide, that was a late slide.
I don't know what the guy was cause he got the last second.
He go down.
I don't know what you want me to do.
I've already committed on purpose cause he knows he can take advantage of the rules
So why not now? I'm not sure it's probably too late now
But at some point next year the competition committee or whoever whoever the powers may be they need
implement a rule
Never yeah
When it comes to that quarterback, they're gonna protect protect. Hey, the rule base, this is what was told to me.
When in doubt, if it's a quarterback, throw the flag.
I don't care if you get it wrong.
We will not hold that against you.
When in doubt, if it's the quarterback, throw the flag.
If y'all watch the game today, you know exactly what I'm talking about.
Now I'm not saying wrong and I'm not saying I'm bad.
You know, the Chiefs are great and all that they do, Paxman home.
One of the best ever but I'm just and he's taking advantage of the rules a little bit. I just a little bit
Yes, sir. Oh Joe
Can I ask you a question?
We heard the same thing when Tom Brady and the Patriots was winning. It was the referee
They heard the same thing old old Joe. And we saw
Tom Brady get a call. Chris Jones hit the man in the shoulder pad. They said he hit
the man in the head. He didn't touch his head. There are a lot of phantom calls. It
happens. They called a penalty tonight. That man didn't touch Montgomery's face. night
We see it in slow motion and rank to see it in in in real time
It's bad. Look fast
in real time and it looks like
His head his head does this and it looked like oh he grabbed his face back. Right that man. They just that man face mask
And you throw that play you shouldn't be allowed to say face or mask for the rest of the year.
But I think the biggest call, what got him,
is that when Mahomes overthrew Kelsey
and Will Anderson hit him in the chin,
and they thought he hit him in his chin.
He didn't.
It could reverse it.
And hey, listen, Mahomes sold it now. He his chin. He didn't. It could reverse it. And listen, the home's solid now.
He solid.
He solid.
Yes!
They good.
What would Brady do?
Every time they hit Brady somewhat late,
he started looking at the official.
That's what the quarterback...
Right, right, right, right.
You not gonna do anything about that?
Hey, hey... Hey, look Right, right, right, right. You're not gonna do anything about that? Hey, hey.
Hey, look at, hey, how many times you ever saw the official
come to the sideline and talk to any other player
like the official went to the sideline
and talked to Josh Allen?
Right.
I ain't never seen, I had never seen an official
come to the sideline and talk to a player.
Say, look, because he could have
threw a flag all that yelling they threw a flag on Tom Brady one time but Tom was probably
MFing him. Yeah. Normally they throw normally they throw a flag on you you know you keep yelling
I've seen it a few times I've seen it with Brady. Stop yelling. I've seen it with Josh Allen and
in basketball I saw with Michael Jordan.
Yeah. So that's the thing.
Ocho, the Texas are the first team
in NFL postseason history to outgain an opponent
by a hundred yards, have zero turnovers and lose.
Prior to today, teams were 49 and 0 in such games.
And boys special, man.
And boys special. They just know how to win and there's
an expectation when you've been in this situation you got to beat them. How many times? It's normally
not as convincing. You had to beat Tom. Convincingly yeah. You had to beat him.
You the only thing you don't want to have happen, you didn't want Tom to have the ball
with a chance to beat your ass late in the ball game.
You want to be taking a knee.
Cause it's the same thing with my home.
You don't want him to have the ball late
with the ball in his hand.
And I will say this about the Chiefs, Ocho.
You get the ball to start your offense on the 13 yard line
and you kick a field goal,
next week you're going home.
You do that again, you do that against Buffalo
or Baltimore, you're going home.
You're going home.
They got the ball again
and they set up for another field goal.
Now I don't know what the Texas gonna do with their kicker.
But there's a good chance they gonna probably be
in the market for another one. Listen, you heard what I said. I don't know what they Texas gonna do with their kicker yeah the market for another one listen you heard what I say they need a kick I'm right
here
now I mean that first kid wasn't even close like what do we do yes in a game
in a game like that, we're putting powder.
It didn't even say extra point, Ocho.
Do you know how deflated that is, Ocho?
Now we about to tie the game up, and now look.
Yeah, bro.
Hey, nice run.
Hey, nice run, Joe.
Nice run, mix.
Hey, want to put them in the blender, mix, blah, blah, blah.
And then you like, oh, yeah.
About to tie this thing up.
Take the win right out your sails.
Damn. The win right out your sales and damn the wind right out your sales
man, I
Mean you try to put you try to put a problem. That's okay. That's okay. We good
No, bro, we have behind if we if they don't do anything else if we don't do anything else we lose
Ah, man
Oh man. Uh, Bojo, there's been a lot said about the refs, the refs favoring the Chief, the Texans
spoke about it after the game.
Let's take a listen to what CJ had to say first.
Yeah, you know, those things are tough.
You know, I'm not going to go back and forth on what I thought was a call, what I thought
wasn't a call, you know, and, you know, it's one of those things you kind of know what's
up before you even walk in the arena and
We got to be better just being
Accountable and sound and you know some things, you know I think we had a couple calls and work hard that I'm begging for but at the same time it is what it is
You know, like I can't argue with the ref and at the same time play football. I got to go and do my job
so yeah, I would say you know, it's
Definitely some things that I would question, but at the same time, I mean, they're the professionals are getting paid to be
refs and, you know, they did ultimately their best.
And yeah, but, you know, it's kind of thing, you know, it's us against the world,
you know, when you're playing in these types of environments.
I got a question.
I got a question.
If everybody keeps saying the same thing every year,
regular season, every postseason when it comes to the Chiefs, questionable calls,
calls that are always convenient and it seems they always side for the Chiefs, at
what point are the people right and there's not an excuse made every single
time. If someone's always saying the same thing all the time, you know, if there's smoke, there's fire. If there's smoke, there's fire somewhere.
Everybody can't be wrong about it. The coaches say it, the fans say it,
sometimes the people in the chat might say it, the people that don't agree are the people that are
actually cheese fans, you know, but I'm just saying, I don't have a horse in this race.
I'm just saying I see questionable things that happen at times that favor the
chiefs.
Did you see questionable calls with Colby?
Yes, sir.
Did you see questionable calls with Michael Jordan?
Oh, so, okay.
So you know what it is.
Okay.
I didn't want to, I didn't want to make sure we on the same page.
It's got a, okay. know what it is? You saw what it is because we're brainy too, D. I do want to make sure we on the same page. It's gonna happen.
Yeah, it's gonna happen.
Let's take a listen to what Joe Mixon had to say.
Everybody know how it is playing up here.
You can never leave it into the ref's hands, but I mean the whole see man like what it is bro but it is what it is
you know um like I said when it come down so you can never leave it into the ref's hands man and
things like that but it's all good though. Big Lombardi I know Vic he writes out of
Delhi he said yeah I'm done see my home can't get separate rules Vic. Okay, okay
Everybody can't be blind
Not everybody the players say it the culture say you from the outside that are prominent figures Like I said earlier in the NFL that had been watching the game for a very long time and they can see it now
I see it sometimes as a former player
Occasionally not often but most of the time but they do get calls the calls are warranted when I see it. Now I see it sometimes as a former player, occasionally, not often,
but most of the time, but they do get calls. The calls are warranted when I see
it in slow motion. Okay, you know what? The fans might say that's some bull
jive, but as a fan, I mean, actually as a player and a fan of the game now, okay,
that was warranted. That's really a call. Now.
Yeah, I feel, but I thought you, but we see, we see we you and I we discuss it every week bro
I mean the guy land on the quarterback personal file wrong. I'm like with this
So what you want me to do you want me to lay this mofo down?
Hold on now, you know
D tacos then now only do they attack you when they take it to the ground, you know, they put an all-in-weight on you, too
now
Oh when they take it to the ground, you know, they putting all their weight on you too now. Oh, but I see guys trying to like, they try to like, yeah.
And so like I ain't trying to drop my weight on him and they still throw the flag.
Every time they're going to protect the quarterback.
Chad, I get it.
And I get frustrated too, because sometimes I see them like, bro, that's not a penalty.
I mean, you got to let the guys play at some point in time, but they have been
told if there's any doubt in your mind and it's on that guy, yeah.
Throw the flag.
Hey, you know, it's funny.
Even without the damn, goddamn calls in favor of the chiefs, they will
still be winning these games.
I would call, they will still be winning the game because when it matters most and 15 has the ball in his hands,
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Dan tweeted, first, Dan Quinn, what Dan Quinn is doing in Washington, Jerry, everybody needs
to go, including Zem.
I knew Washington was going to be successful because of DQ.
Daz, why you keep saying Jerry?
Jerry had an opportunity to hire Dan Quinn
and he kept Mike McCarthy.
So when are you gonna, I understand.
You have a great, hey,
I understand your relationship with Jerry,
but when are you gonna put this at Jerry's feet?
Because that guy didn't take a job because he thought he was gonna get the job
And then once once it became abundantly clear Jerry was gonna drag his feet. He took another job
What you want that man to do?
I ain't fit to be no damn coaching waiting for the rest of my life
Keep passing over opportunity after opportunity while jerry his feet? Hell? No, Trey
Oh, yeah, this one now and I'll speak truth about my cowboys good or bad Jerry has built a great brand
That's all he's done brand and now it's time for the team to start winning. It's time for a real culture shift
I'm fed up with all this nepotism get someone in there who can win games. Hold on. What do you mean?
What you mean? That's what they are brain
That's what this is what What you mean to start with it culture. You can't have culture dance right when your owner
You know, oh, you know a culture starts at that that start from the top
Coaches don't start from the coach culture start from the top
any from the coach culture start from the top. And it, when?
Hold on, Ochoa, before you go any farther.
Michael Farson responded, stuff that irritates me, Dez, because you had enough, you had enough,
he was spelled, he put a T in front of it, but I know what he meant.
You had enough talent and was probably one of the greatest in your time.
You could have changed the culture, brother.
You could have changed the culture.
Wait a minute. Now, wait, brother. You could have changed the culture. Wait a minute now.
Wait, now, Michael, Michael, Michael.
Michael Parsons, what does the front office
have to do with players action and players
be responsible for their actions?
Dead shot back.
I had to double back because you really
said I could have changed the culture.
Emphasize that.
And if you don't know, I was never on a yes, man,
political ass kissin' ish.
I sacrificed myself so a lot of you could do what you do.
I'm on some ish way deeper than football.
You really too young to understand.
You realize that soon you need to do more people
like don't give a F for the better of the athletes.
The way I talk to Jerry versus the way you talk to Jerry
is totally different.
That is sink in.
Oh, now?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Uh-oh, uh-oh, that what you say.
You say you like that.
Hey, I like that.
You told me you like when the players be true.
I like that, I like that, see?
You see what you hear, Dad?
That's what you told me.
Now, we can get all the players, even the active players,
to start talking their truth.
But Dez always been Dez since day one, now.
Dez ain't never changed.
Dez ain't never conformed.
Dez was never PC'd.
So what you hear from him now is nothing new.
That's always been him.
I don't believe you can have a culture as long
as Jerry's the owner.
Because what happens is you need one voice.
That voice needs to emanate from the coach.
If I can circumvent anything that the coach, any authority that the coach have by going
to his superior, how does the coach lay a foundation to his superior. Right.
How does the coach lay a foundation
to establish said culture?
The thing that they know in New England,
ain't nobody going to Bob Kraft, Mr. Kraft,
and circumvent anything Coach Belichick.
I had a great relationship with Mr. Boland.
Man, I wish I would have took my happy black ass upstairs
and said, Mr. B, let me tell you what Mike talking about.
He gonna look at me like, Sharpie, what you want me to do?
Nothing.
Don't tell him I came up here to your office to tell you.
Yeah, sure.
Let's start with that.
Let's keep this between us.
The thing was is that when you have one voice,
now that takes a lot.
Well, where is this coming from? Who is this coming from?
See, here's the thing, Ocho, the problem that they have in cowboys.
They know when Mike McCarthy is standing in front of them, that Jerry's talking.
He's moving his mouth, but Jerry is, you know, he's your pedal.
The difference is, when Mike Shanahan stood up there and talk
That was Mike, but also he gave us remember now bro. We're not gonna do that. What's your weight?
Okay, bring your answer be
May wait
Hey, I'm there.
Got a go get on the bike.
It ain't but two pounds.
Go get on the bike for 10 minutes.
Hey, you good.
You won't be able to drop that bro.
Get in the sock.
Get in the hot tub.
Hey, yes.
Yes.
Yes, bro.
That's our responsibility.
Bro.
Clean up the, come on, bro.
How you hair, the hair, the laundry basket right there.
You going to throw the towel on the floor, bro.
Really? That's what you're going to do.
You can't get your, I mean the towel right there by you.
And you just leave the towel in front of your locker.
You leave the towel, bro.
Come on now.
Bro clean.
Mike gave us the authority to police the locker room.
We had established a culture that I had adopted from the older guys, from Dennis Smith and Steve Atwater, the Max and the John. And hopefully that my job was to try to pass that on.
That's what you got to have, Ocho.
The guy that when you see Ray and the way you conduct yourself and he's watching the way Woody and how we do things, myself and Rod,
hopefully he passed that along and the culture was established and so now you get an Ed Reed and you got a Suggs and you got
guys like that. That's what you play like a Raven.
They're never gonna have that because Jerry won't allow it.
Jerry won't allow it. Jerry won't allow it.
I mean, a lot of things transpired.
Hold on a second.
There are a lot of things that happened once I left.
I mean, once I leave, Ocho, I just try to do,
try to put the guys in the best situations
that I possibly could to be successful.
But there's a lot of things going on,
a lot of dealings that I wouldn't have tolerated.
Yeah.
I was like, guys, we got to be professional and all that other stuff.
That's this, the kind of stuff that to tear the fabric from a locker room.
You know, that somebody's people, and then you try to go behind their back and you try to do, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah.
That's how we do stuff right here.
We, I don't go for that.
I'm just trying to figure out why you try to do that.
Why are you mad at him about trying to see some girl and you married.
How'd that look?
That's weird.
I'm confused.
I'm like, bro.
Yeah, I'm just like I've told you.
I said, bro, let me ask you a question.
How you mad at him talking about that's your girl.
That's real?
You're mad at three kids.
That's real?
That's real.
That's real.
That's real.
That's real.
That's real.
That's real. That's real. That's real that's your girl. That's real?
You're mad with three kids?
That's a good story.
Let me tell you.
I kept the peace. My job
was not only to play
my job was to keep the peace and keep stuff like that.
Cause that would tear a lot of room apart.
Ain't got nothing to do with football. Cause that will tear a locker room apart. Ain't got nothing to do with football.
We gonna keep football football.
That's what we gonna do.
Bro,
your wife get wind of this right here
cause you know cause at the end of the day
he gonna get mad at you
you doing things to try to sort him up
he go tell your wife
now what? Now you're gonna want to fight.
Why you fighting a man that's single about seeing somebody up, he go tell your wife, now what? Now you're going to want to fight.
Why you fighting a man that's single about seeing somebody you married and you try to get at her, come on bro, it don't work like that.
You get one.
You get one.
You get your wife, you get your main one.
You can't put, you can't take three or four off the shelf and put them in the
bag, you know, like Foot Locker Ocho?
You got a boy working there, hey, put a pair of shoes in the bag for me
No, you get one you get to put one on the shelf and everybody stay away from other than that
It's fair game
It's fair game. So you not finna hide four five pair of shoes
We will say we're selling issues, bro
I'm gonna keep it one five with y'all.
But see that's the job of a leader is to keep the piece in the locker room because there
are a lot of things that can eat at the fabric of a locker room that ain't got nothing to
do with football.
It ain't got nothing to do with money.
Hey, we'll keep money out of this.
Look, all that gambling, look, like Mike said, like rookies, we didn't really let a whole
lot of rookies gamble because first of all, y'all ain't got that kind of money.
And you're right.
And we can't have Mike say, look, I can't have y'all out there.
Y'all owe 84, $20,000 and you're thinking about that.
Oh yeah.
So look, no, no, come on guys.
But that culture thing is true.
People don't realize it.
People don't realize how valuable culture is in a locker room
until you don't have that veteran leadership in there
and you get guys running them up,
doing all kinds of things.
And then you're like, well damn,
I realized that Sharp had more value.
He was valuable.
And I'm not talking about just on the field
because what Mike didn't realize until I left a lot of things that I snuffed out.
Right.
Never made it to him.
He didn't know ish about it, but that's what veterans do.
That's what leaders do.
You come together, you say, Hey bro, what's really going on?
What's the problem?
Okay.
You got a problem at home.
Okay.
How can we help? What's going on? What, what, what, I mean,
what does she think you're doing? Bro? You cannot,
you cannot go out and come in at three, four in the morning. What homeboy you got?
What, so what you telling her? You can't tell her I'm out. Hell,
cause I don't even go out with my own homeboy to come in at three,
four in the morning. I can tell Bucky, I I used to tell Bucket all the time, nah bro,
you not finna mess up my home.
Hey, my homeboy in town, cause y'all, hey yeah, shop man, come on Bucket.
You not finna mess up my home, got me coming in cause you want to come in at
3, 4 in the morning, oh hell nah.
No bro, you can't do that.
I'm not going to tell you, you grown ass man, but I'm, I'm not going to
tell you what you can and what I'm going to tell you what you shouldn't do.
I can't tell you what you can't do because you're grown, but I'm going
to tell you what you shouldn't do.
And if you want peace, if you want, because at some point in time, Mike
going to wonder why your place slipping, why you seem
distracted, why you keep busting assignments, why you're not where you're
supposed to be.
And then eventually, hey, Mike Shanahan cut you.
I ain't telling you that, oh, Mike could eat five million, six million dollars.
He will cut your ass.
So I just want to know how do you want to play this thing? Man, Sharp, man, hey, I million dollars. He will cut your ass. So I just want to know what you how do you how do you want to play this
thing? Man, sharp man. Hey, I appreciate that, bro. I pre I
appreciate you coming to me. But I can't keep my copy ass you
keep making these kind of mistakes because I can only lie
so much.
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