Club Shay Shay - Nightcap Hour 2: Cowboys’ Osa Odighizuwa joins NIGHTCAP & Talks PLAYING for Marshawn Kneeland + Micah Parsons DOMINATES the LIONS

Episode Date: November 28, 2025

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson are joined by Dallas Cowboy Osa Odighizuwa to talk about the big win against the Kansas City Chiefs, the Green Bay Packers go on the road and be...at the Detroit Lions and much more! 0:00 - Cowboys DT, Osa Odighizuwa, joins the show!19:12 - Packers beat Lions36:27 - Play or Fade with PrizePicks39:28 - Q & Aaayyy (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:26 sick now like hold the door for everyone. I believe in that solely. So listen to good luck with that on iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Oh, we got a very special guest joining us. Coming fresh from the Thanksgiving Day game in which the defensive line did a great job of getting after Patrick Mahom. Here you're Ossey Odigizu. Ziggy, how you doing, bro? What's good, man? How y'all doing? I'm doing great. Yeah, you're doing great. Ziggy, where you at? What did you say? Where you at? I'm at home, bro.
Starting point is 00:03:00 We just got done eating Thanksgiving dinner not too long ago. Oh, man, I ain't even have, hey, Nick, you know how I bless you all to have Thanksgiving dinner? Oh, I had three hot dogs a day. Oh, wow. Hey, no, I'm spoiled, bro. I don't know how long I've been saying it. Probably last two years since my mom moved in with me and she'd been on the ones and twos in the kitchen,
Starting point is 00:03:20 and I'm not going to stop saying it. Because she went ham. So what was what we have? Typical Thanksgiving? It was straight Nigerian food, bro. Foof and Guisi. So, foo fu-foo. Agusi, jolof rice, rice and stew.
Starting point is 00:03:38 Jouye, the whole nine. So that's a, that is a typical Nigerian Thanksgiving. So you did, y'all, y'all had no turkey, no dressing, no mac and cheese, none of that? Or that was in addition to? No, no, that was just straight Nigerian food. Yeah, that's not a problem. part of our culture, huh? That's not a part of our culture.
Starting point is 00:04:02 Zicki, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, I was, I'm a Nigerian. I did not. Yeah, I'm 82% Nigerian, man, you know. What you got that off 23 and me? Huh? Yeah, I did my ancestry. I was, I was above 95% Nigeria.
Starting point is 00:04:18 Every, hey, hey, they're giving out too much sauce on the ancestry, bro. I feel like everybody claims that. I've heard a lot of claims. I don't know, I'm, I can't even verify. you can verify with me I'm gonna tell you something
Starting point is 00:04:34 only you'll know maybe the chat might know unless you're Nigeria you wouldn't know you know I was I'm the leader of the Yahoo boys Yahoo boys
Starting point is 00:04:43 yeah yeah it's not a registered 419 yeah yeah see I just check the chat the chat
Starting point is 00:04:51 yeah don't worry about no results back on the Yahoo boys Defensively, the last three games, you guys are stepped up. You had back-to-back game-winning play sacks against the Eagles and the Raiders. And defensively, I think it was you guys that really set the tempo today. Look, Dak, with those weapons they have, you know they're going to do what they need to do.
Starting point is 00:05:14 Guys, we just can't give up 500 yards. We can't give up 300-yard passing. We can't give up 200 yards rushing. You guys have done a great job over the last three weeks of pulling your weight. What was the mindset? What was said? Was anything said that says, hey, guys, and look, if we're going to turn this thing around
Starting point is 00:05:32 and get going in the right direction, we're going to have to pull our weight. What was said, what was done, what changed? I mean, definitely been rocking with the defense just telling us, like, yo, like telling everybody every time I'll call it up, I'm like, or when I do call it up or when I talk, I'm just like, bro, we have the guys in the room for the job.
Starting point is 00:05:53 Like, this defense is way better than what we've been putting on tape. You know what I mean as far as like the first part of the season, you know? And just knowing that like coming off the by week, especially in November, this month is crazy. You know, we got to lock in. We got to handle business because we don't have any time to bullshit. Everything that we want is still in front of us. But we have to have a very heightened sense of urgency to be able to have the control of our destiny.
Starting point is 00:06:24 And the offense has been rolling. we've been having one of the most explosive offenses in the league all year. So just knowing, like, we got to be able to contribute and we got to be able to hold it down because if we do, we get the ball back to the offense as much as possible. We're going to give ourselves chances to win these games and go down this stretch and have the type of games that we want to have, you know. And then also just coming off of the loss of our brother Marchand, knowing that we have to honor him with the way that we play, you know,
Starting point is 00:06:56 and just taking him with us moving forward and asking ourselves, how is he going to approach the game, you know, and taking that same approach and just honoring him that way with how we play on the field. Go ahead, Ocho. I'm going to say, you know, the good thing about this, too, is for a defense like you guys that have struggled in the past, early in the season.
Starting point is 00:07:20 Right now is the perfect time if you guys be hitting your stride. Most of the time, some of the things, I always say, and Bill Pellatech, his favorite words that you always said during football season is football season doesn't really start until active Thanksgiving. And the fact that you defensively are playing the way you're playing right now, that momentum carries over week to week. That momentum carries over week to week. And with the offense playing the way it's playing right now, being one of the best in NFL, there's a very, very good chance. Y'all could run the goddamn table. And this is coming from a football fan as someone who understands the game when you watch this.
Starting point is 00:07:54 teams like you guys that are playing as well as you are right now? Man. It's really a super long balance. I just know, especially right now, we're going to look up because we play three games in 10 days. We're going to play the Lions again on Thursday. I just knew this month is a very, very high importance because we look up four games going like that in less than a – or maybe a little over two.
Starting point is 00:08:24 two weeks and now we're in the back court of the season, you know, we have good teams. I'll say the harder stretch with air quotes. Obviously, it's the league is every given Sunday. But just knowing like these are all very playoff to attending teams, teams that were in the championship, whether it be NFC or conference championship or in the Super Bowl being the Eagles and the Chiefs, like this is this is the stretch. And obviously just playing the way we have is building a lot of confidence because the DNA of the team is right. The character of the team is right. You know, so I feel like just being able to execute at a high level to
Starting point is 00:09:01 contribute the effort and the passion that we play with, it's promising. I look at you guys. I look at your Adi Quinty. You added Kenny Clark. You brought in Jadabian Clowny. You get Sam Williams back off of the ACL injury. And I look at you guys and the pressure that you guys, can generate. You ended up
Starting point is 00:09:23 sacking Mahomes three times. You pressure them more, sufficiently enough. And what has been your thought process with what you're like, damn, man, okay Jerry, okay, you get Kitty Clark? Yeah, we lost our brother Michael Parth. We love to have Michael, but we get, we get Quinty.
Starting point is 00:09:40 We get, man, we get Kenny Clark. Oh, Davian Clowny? The number, was the number of an overall draft pick at one point in time? Sam's back. You got paid the offseason. You got the seal on your chest. Like, your defensive line and you said it earlier
Starting point is 00:09:53 like, bro, we got the talent in this room to go get this job done and make it easier for our back in. Yeah. Like, I don't think I've even even earlier in the season, like I said, it just didn't compute whether, like, the games that we were putting together and the way
Starting point is 00:10:09 that we were playing was not up to our standard and who I know that we are. So just continue to speak on that. And I feel like getting Kenny, getting Q has helped out a ton as far as having to see all my chest I feel like either one of them could could easily be a guy that has a sea on their chest so that makes my job that much easier as far as being a leader you know yes so now
Starting point is 00:10:33 you said you're like okay you get to sit back and watch this weekend and like boy I show hope somebody take care of this team for us hey come on somebody beat the Eagles because you know hey come on somebody do something to San Francisco you get to sit back and watch knowing that you got a game of the utmost important and Because at the end of the day, Ziggy, it doesn't matter what happens. It only matters what you do. Let's take care of our business and we'll let the chips fall where we made. Let's not have a slip-up and say, man, now we're sitting by watching the TV on the last Sunday,
Starting point is 00:11:05 the last Sunday in the beginning of January, and like, come on, lose. We need this team to lose. Man, we didn't take care of what we need to take care. That's honestly, as a competitor, you hate to be in that place, bro. You don't want, you don't want anyone else to be in the driver's seat but yourself. So you got to handle business That was an impressive That was an impressive win today
Starting point is 00:11:26 Talk about your quarterback Because I think you've been there for a while now And this is as good And that I've seen Dax spend the football And say four or five years Yeah look he came in and started You know he took him for Tony Romo And he's never looked back
Starting point is 00:11:41 But it's hard for me to say That I've seen him throw the football better Than what he's throwing it right now And what he has Tolerating no Dach Prescott Slander. I never have, to be honest. Even in times when he didn't look great or just and that, I'm like, bro, like, a healthy
Starting point is 00:11:58 Dak Prescott is one of the best quarterbacks in the NFL. Okay, okay. I've been down on that hill since I've been here. I've seen it. You know what I mean? And I, again, I will not tolerate any Dak Prescott sland. A lot of times, people that I know around that talk mess, I'd be like, man, you don't need to get any new quarterback.
Starting point is 00:12:15 You don't need to do this, do that? I'm like, who are we going to get? Who would you rather have? X, Y, Z. hell no stop talking who else would you rather have it's not like we can get them if we could if you got if we got who we go get you're not getting Josh Allen you're not getting into the top quarterback so what are you saying you think there's somebody out there better than that we can actually get that's what I'm saying bro I'm like you have no idea yeah they don't
Starting point is 00:12:39 how risky that conversation is like we have again one of the best quarterbacks in the NFL bro I'm not hearing any of that and the funny thing the funny thing about it ziggie you know you know how it is with people on the outside looking in they really think replacing quarterbacks is so easy you look at some of these teams like let's say like the browns they haven't been able to find a quarterback and damn their 40 years that people don't understand the jets haven't been able to find a consistent quarterback and damn that who who sends broadway joke people don't understand how difficult it is to have a quarterback and when you have one that is good like that you know despite not having the success that
Starting point is 00:13:15 that most when you when you think about the cowboys and how much they won know, in the 90s and the fact they haven't done in so long, well, hell, having a quarterback like that always give you a chance. Now, it just isn't just on him as a team collectively as a group. You all have to play well to be able to make it back to the grace land like they did back in the 90s. So it's not as easy to say. That's just knowing, like, having a leader like him, bro, to be honest, like, that's someone for as long as I've been with the Cowboys.
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Starting point is 00:18:28 I can honestly say, like, he's been one of the hardest workers consistently for the five years that I've been with this team to the point where it's like, I just got here. I literally have no excuse as to why I can't find a little bit more to do, find some type of extra edge or some type of extra work to put in. You know what I mean? He's been putting that in And he's been consistent with that
Starting point is 00:18:52 To the point where it just brings everyone else along too After that sack last week Against the Raiders You made a hand just like you was calling somebody What was that? I mean, that's just a situation The game is on the line Got to answer the call
Starting point is 00:19:06 Yeah, I'm here. I got him, yeah. Okay, all right, I talk to you later. Yes, sir. You mentioned Marshawn Neely your brother de lineman he had just scored a touchdown that monday night game seemingly everything was going um when you got the calling you heard the tragic news what was what what went through your mind ziggi bro i mean it was just crazy like it was it was honestly just a lot of shock you know followed followed by just crying like really hit me just and processing that you know
Starting point is 00:19:42 followed by just like, how are we going to honor him and take care of Marshaun and his family moving forward? How are we going to, you know, come together as a team and lean on each other and how are we going to get closer from this, you know, and just trying to turn that pain into a purpose? It's tough. You mentioned it's been a very tough month for you. You look, there are plays, there are things that, you know, okay, you might move the game up. you might move the game back as far as time, considering the situation's weather. There are certain things that are in the playbook,
Starting point is 00:20:18 but there's nothing in the playbook when it comes to dealing like real life, life and death situation. There is no playbook for that. Yeah, I'm sure you guys have counselors that you can talk to, but that doesn't happen very often in the NFL, something of this magnitude and where you really, when they say, you know what, I can count on my brother, I can count on to the man next to me,
Starting point is 00:20:37 where you really and truly Ziggy has to have to count on the man that's next. to steal you because he's going through the exact same thing that you're going through. Yeah. Yeah. Well, definitely. Hey, Ziggy, I dealt with that, I dealt with that issue. Obviously, when I was with the Bengals, I think it might have been,
Starting point is 00:20:53 was it maybe 2009, Unk? I don't remember the year. We lost my brother, a fellow receiver, Chris Henry. Chris Henry had passed away, and that was tough. We had a game that following Sunday. I think we found out about his death. Maybe, maybe on a Tuesday, it might have been an all day, or maybe on Monday we were watching film
Starting point is 00:21:13 and we came down out of meetings and they told us, you know, told us, you know, what had happened. And that was one of the worst feelings to have a brother that had been lining up with you week to week to week to week. And obviously he broke his arm and then, you know, three days later, he's gone. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:29 And it was hard to deal with. And, you know, we had our therapist for those that need to, you know, have someone to talk to to, to let out whatever frustration and tears you needed to and just had that conversation. But, you know, that turning pain into purpose. I like that.
Starting point is 00:21:45 You know what I mean? Like we, Marchand, he was a bright spot on the team. Like he was a very loving, energetic guy. He had a light, so just continue to carry that
Starting point is 00:21:57 is just our purpose now. Just carrying his light and taking him with us every single step of the way. And it's not just one week. You know, we're carrying him with us for the rest of our lives.
Starting point is 00:22:07 Zika, let me ask you this. We'll get you out of this one. I hear a lot of people and I have friends that guys that Emmett and I, we came out together. Michael is a good. I know Michael very, very well.
Starting point is 00:22:17 And they talk about being a cowboy. What is it like to be a Dallas damn cowboy? Man, it's amazing. Like, Cowboys Nation is honestly one of the best fan bases in football. You know, that's the reason why it is America's team. You know, and wrapping my head around that took me like two away games to realize, like, oh, wow, this is an away. game. This is a home game. You know what I mean? It's one of the best places that you could
Starting point is 00:22:47 possibly play football, in my opinion. And obviously, I haven't been anywhere else. Right. I don't want to find out about anywhere else, bros. It's been amazing. Yeah. Like you said, that fan base, so obviously, when things are not going well and they see you at the grocery store, they see you at the gas station, or they see you out, you're not very pleased with the performance that they're getting. Let you, let you post it. anything and you ain't playing good, bro. Like, oh, my goodness. They're going to let you know.
Starting point is 00:23:16 That's why you're not winning. You out here posted on social media, huh? Yes, bro, all that, all day. Man, you make a fucking tackle, like, bro, they're just all in the comments. I'm like, man. So you said, you said your mom moved in with you.
Starting point is 00:23:35 Yeah, she's been with me for long as I've been in the house when I decided to actually go ahead and purchase house I went in went ahead and made that move uh where where did you where did you bring away where was she staying before you brought moved in with you in dallas she was in portland back in my hometown okay okay so now so you do because I'm sure that the cowboys provide breakfast for you so do you eat before you before you get to the stadium or the training facility or do mom make you breakfast lunch and dinner and all that stuff I don't even like she's she's She came in and she was just helping me with, like, organizing any of these little house touches.
Starting point is 00:24:17 I'll flip the camera so you could take a look if it'll let me do that. All this homie stuff that you see around. Okay. All that stuff from my foundation, but the pictures back there and around on the side, you know, setting up a little bit. It was a house. She made it a home. Yes. It was just the blank walls if it was just me up here, bro.
Starting point is 00:24:38 And you got You got upstairs Boy, you got money It's Texas, girl Well, yeah He's got like Texas, bro Yeah, you get a lot of bang for your buck In Texas
Starting point is 00:24:50 A thousand percent Oh yeah In Texas Man, let's move out to Texas, man Hey You get like Unfortunately, when I'll be able to do that, though, Joe Like she said,
Starting point is 00:25:02 Bang for your buck Okay, okay, okay I like that Yeah, Yeah, man, Ziggy, thanks for joining us. Congratulations on the last three weeks. You guys have been playing really, really well. Congratulations on the big winter day on Thanksgiving.
Starting point is 00:25:17 Prayers up to everybody that had to go through what you had to go through over the last 10 days with the March and Neeland situation. We send our prayers, sends our best and our prayers to you and the team. Good luck the rest of the way. And if you guys go ahead and do what you're supposed to do, come back and tell us how you did it. Yes, sir. Appreciate you, man. Yep.
Starting point is 00:25:35 Yeah, boys have a good night. Happy Thanksgiving, by the way. Good night, bro. I don't get something other than three hot dogs because that's, oh my, what? Someone, if you're watching this right now, please get Ocho a plate. Nah, not at that time or not.
Starting point is 00:25:48 He's on the east coast. They don't want to get him a plate tomorrow, bro. Hold on, hey, Ziggy, Ziggy. Three hot dogs is crazy. No, but Ziggi. I couldn't. It was close today. Ziggy, I had to get on the plane to come to Baltimore.
Starting point is 00:26:01 I just left the Ravens game. You know, we put belt ass to the Ravens the day. Yeah, I saw that. I'm going to eat when they get back tomorrow or Miami. Man, I heard that, but you need something other than three hot dogs. Congratulations, man. Continued success, man. We'll see you.
Starting point is 00:26:19 Yes, sir. Appreciate y'all. All right, man. All righty. If one of us wins, we all win. I'm Ashley Reifeld, and I'm the host of the women's skateboarding podcast. Good luck with that. Good luck with that is a skateboarding podcast that is part cultural record, part news brief,
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Starting point is 00:27:09 and still having to prove your worth while the industry catches up. You break down the door, sick now, like, hold the door for everyone. We created good luck with that because we want to share our experience of existing in an industry that wasn't always built for everyone. So listen to good luck with that on iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. For 25 years, I've explored what it means to heal, not just for myself, but alongside others. I'm Mike De La Rocha, this is Sacred Lessons, a space for reflection, growth, and collective healing. What do you tell men that are hurting right now?
Starting point is 00:27:46 Everything's going to be okay on the other side, you know, just push through it. And, you know, ironically, the root of the word spirit is breath. Wow. Which is why one of the most revolutionary acts that we can do as peoples just breathe. Next to the wound is their gifts. you can't even find your guests unless you go through the wound that's the hard thing you think
Starting point is 00:28:07 well I'm going to get my guess I don't want to go through all that you got to go through the wounds you're laughing listening to other people's near-death experiences and that's all they say in conclusion love is the answer listen to sacred lessons as part
Starting point is 00:28:19 of the Mike Gutura podcast network available on the IHeart Radio app Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast Hey what's up everybody Daniel Jeremiah here and I'm Bucky Brooks If you love breaking down football from every angle, you're in the right place. Every week on Move the Six, Bucky Brooks and I dive deep into the game from the X's and O's to the front office moves shaping the league.
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Starting point is 00:30:55 Gentleman'scuturban.com. Please enjoy responsibly. Ocho, the Packers beat the Detroit Lions by the score of 31 to 24. Joy and Love become the first Packer quarterback since 1950 with three wins on Thanksgiving. Michael Parsons had himself a day on Thanksgiving. He made life difficult for Jerry Golf in the rest of the Detroit office. Hey, Ocho, two and a half sacks, eight tackles, four quarterback hits,
Starting point is 00:31:24 and a plethora of pressures. He also made NFL history. He became the first player ever to record 12 or more sacks in each of his first five seasons. Crazy. You talk about consistent. Talk about consistent. You know, he's up there.
Starting point is 00:31:40 I would love to put him in that consistent level along with Miles Garrett on. You know, obviously, Miles probably getting ready to break the sack record, but I don't think people understand how good Michael Parsons is. for one to be able to do it in Dallas. This is what you call a generational talent, a transcending type player
Starting point is 00:32:00 where it doesn't matter what team you go to. It doesn't matter what team you go to. It doesn't matter what defense you put him on. The same type production you're still going to get from a player like that. And kudos to him. Again, it's almost mind-boggling when you think about what he's been able to do
Starting point is 00:32:14 from a defensive perspective and Jerry was still willing to let him go. Because he's still doing the exact same thing. I think he's looked even better. I mean, you probably have to go back to maybe his rookie season or his second season, but now the impact in which he's playing with. He's closing the lights out on, you know,
Starting point is 00:32:33 you saw against the Giants. He ended the night. We saw the day, basically, kept him out of field, kept him out of the end zone. He's been playing unbelievable football because like I said, he got on the other side.
Starting point is 00:32:45 He got Clark on the other side. Wyatt, who unfortunately had that gruesome injury today that he's done for the rest of the year. But defensively, they just got weapons, Ocho, and they can put pressure. And when Jordan Love played like he played today, he should have five touchdown. Because he moved outside of the pocket, he hit through the ball in the guy's feet. All they got to do is just set his feet and throw it.
Starting point is 00:33:06 That's a touchdown. Walk into a touchdown. But he played unbelievable. 18 to 30, 2.34, four touchdowns. No interceptions, no sacks. Look, Wicks had six for 94 and two touchdowns. Watson, four for 80 and a touchdown. Dobbs, four for 20 and a touchdown.
Starting point is 00:33:21 Um, they, look, he was, he was dealing today. Yeah. Um, but that defense, the Packers defense, they did an unbelievable job on, uh, sacking. They sack, um, Jerry golf three times. They pressured him numerous times. They didn't let, uh, Gibbs get loose. He was trying, but it didn't, they did a great job. 30 rushes, 119 yards, basically like 3.9, 5, 9, 6 yards per carry.
Starting point is 00:33:47 But they didn't let him go crazy. No. And, but, uh, James and William. seven for 144 and a touchdown. But I know he's beating himself up about that drop because he's probably thinking, but we could have stayed on the field.
Starting point is 00:34:01 We might have got a touchdown instead of having to sell it for a field goal. But I want to say this until before I turn it over to you. Tesla, on the touchdown that Jameson Williams, you didn't block a soul. You didn't block nobody. I don't know if you didn't charge the night before,
Starting point is 00:34:18 but all the gadget was just mad. function the damn doors wouldn't open the horn was going off i was like son bro what the hell are you doing also then it was third it was i think it was third down third down they put him in zip motion the thing that i loved about mike and and gary when we did something they they always explained to us why we're doing it doing it yes they put you in zip motion because the guy you're responsible before is inside which is the safety coming down get your ass down there and block it that's why they put you in zip motion why you take you put you in zip motion because they wanted to say everybody see oh his last name Tesla I want to be ready related to Elon Musk no is to get your ass inside
Starting point is 00:35:07 so you can block the damn safety that's the running back for no yard game yeah see that's why I'm sorry chat that's why hey hey you know you know that's that's that's That's a nice little headache, too. Now, especially for receivers coming down in zip motion and have them come down and crack that safety, you already understand how physical safeties are. And when it comes to small, small receivers, especially like that, oh, oh, you're going to come down and block who?
Starting point is 00:35:34 Block what? Well, take this headache with you. Take this headache with you because that's what I'm again. You think you're going to get in my way and get in the way of me making this goddamn tackle. Everything about safety is based on physicality. They enjoy contact. They welcome contact.
Starting point is 00:35:49 Receivers, most of them, depending on your side, depending on the style of player you are, you shy away from that. So when it comes to personnel and decisions you make and what receivers you put in Zip Motion to go get that safety, I'm sure you have receivers you can use but simply for a play like that. That's also.
Starting point is 00:36:09 But the thing is, those safety today ain't like the safety that when you played and when I played, there ain't no big-ass David Fultures. There are no Steve Atwater. They're no Dennis Miller. There ain't no really no thumpers. Right.
Starting point is 00:36:21 They don't even let play like that. Them guys trying to get picks. They ain't trying to thump. They ain't trying to bang. Man, get your damn ass down in that zip motion and dig that safety out. It's third and three. The hell.
Starting point is 00:36:36 Oh, no. Oh, man. I'm sure the reason why they put you in zip motion because they know in that formation, in that down and distant, in that area of the field, what happens? Yeah, the safety feels. Coming down.
Starting point is 00:36:51 They put you in zip motion because they know if they left you in your original, where you originally lined up, you would never get it. That's why they put your ass in motion. But see, you tiptoe it because you really don't want to go in there and get that headache. That's why you went in there with bulljabbing. That is exactly why he went in there tiptoe like he's stepping on hot coals. Get your ass down there and dig that damn safety out so we can get this first down and keep the shame moving. Hey, listen, the funny thing about it.
Starting point is 00:37:18 I've been in that situation before. I've been in that situation when we played goddamn, we played the, goddam, the Broncos. And guess who the safety was? God damn John Lynch. It would have John Lynch known for? Oh, John Lynch, you're going to thub him out you now. And they got me, they got my,
Starting point is 00:37:37 they got my split condensed all the way, goddamn down. And John, looking at me smiling. Yeah, here, though. What you got that doing? Hey, we play, we play, we play. We play in Philly. Who is the goddamn safety that war number 20? B-Doc.
Starting point is 00:37:53 And they got me, they got my, my split condensed time I dig the safety out. Dig who? With what shovel? Man, if y'all don't get me about, if you don't get me up out of this shit and put T.J. in that goddamn position.
Starting point is 00:38:08 Hey. The way I looked at it, I know if I ran this slot at Rout, if I ran something over the middle, you're going to try to turn my head off. You see, the thing is, back then, safety wouldn't try to dodge you. See, like, these safety now try to ole you.
Starting point is 00:38:23 They ain't trying to take, they ain't really trying to thought like that anyway. But back then, them safety, them big-ass safety wasn't dodging, nothing. They tried to put the helmet right under your damn chin. Right through you. I said, well, okay. Well, we both about to get knocked out
Starting point is 00:38:35 because I'm damn sure trying to put. We're going to be like two ramps. You're trying to put your helmet under my chin. I'm trying to put my helmet under your chair. Guess what's going to happen, Ocho? Wow. Hey, see, see, you could do that. I wasn't built.
Starting point is 00:38:47 I wasn't built like that, huh? I wasn't built like that. You know, because if you don't, I just want them to know, hey, I'm here. I ain't going nowhere. Yeah. I ain't going to where.
Starting point is 00:38:59 And that's how I made the team. I had a block at Water and Dennis Nimm in practice. And they said, well, damn, we'll see if you, will you block like that against Ronnie Locke? If his ass in the game. Who going down there with Ronnie? Me?
Starting point is 00:39:14 Man, you fan. This, but you can have. The funny thing. about it is they put me in there because they knew, they knew I was gonna go. I didn't care, you know, I don't care. Exactly, you can't. Every time I see Ray, I swear to God,
Starting point is 00:39:27 we played Ray twice a year up for 11 years straight. Oh, anytime Ed Reed would sneak and try to try to shoot the gas, who you think the next person was for me on the on the crack toss was? Ray, yeah, I lost every time. I didn't care. Yeah. Oh, John, you want me get, John Lynch,
Starting point is 00:39:47 Marvin? Okay, oh, B dog this week? Okay, cool. Hold on. Donovan Darius? Okay, cool. And it's not like we're going to run that play five, ten times a game. One time, Mom. That's it. One time. And you know what? I lost every time. And I'm not ashamed. I lost every one. But you was willing to go down there and say, hey, I'm not afraid. Mm-mm. But that's the attitude you got to, hey, man, you can't go in there like, you trying to tiptoe up on like you try to sneak up on somebody you better hell let him know you coming hey but it is to be tossing my ass out the club man that's usually to be funny hell man i mean hey i'm look here you tell me hey we ain't going to run this play but a couple
Starting point is 00:40:34 of times one or two times max one time on the right side one time on the left side i'm good oh cho now when it came to the safety obviously i'm more of a safety size than that a wide receiver. So I'm looking at it totally different. I'm like, I'm clapping my hand. You run this as much as you want to because that means I ain't got to block them big ass D-Ns. I ain't got to deal with Reggie and Bruce Mill Smith. I ain't got to deal with none of the Neil Smith.
Starting point is 00:40:56 Okay, safety, you got an ass cut and coming. But man, we played Jacksonville one time and they say Shannon. Now, we're hoping we get an underfront and you can the tackle can double team the end push up to the linebacker. He said, but if we get
Starting point is 00:41:12 this overfront, that means the end's going to be seven technique. So he's going to be held up you. I'll be a slightly inside eye of you. I'm going to need you to wash him. We only going to run it one time. Ocho, you don't be one time. Count your boy in. Yeah, Ocho. I'm like, who. One time. Ocho showed up. Oh, you know, laugh. Ocho. So you know, I like I said, okay, I will do it one time. It says, it's only going to be one time. You know what? I know T.D. he don't pick up. If I have to go out. If I have to go out. for a pass play and TD need to pick up this blitz.
Starting point is 00:41:47 I know Tim got me. Ocho, 16 power. It's an overfront, 70. Inside foot, I get him, Ocho. Yeah. Walking, 10 yards. That'll go Sharpie. That'll go Sharpie.
Starting point is 00:42:05 I was like, okay. So in my mind, Ocho, they say we only going to do it one time. Right. They came back to it. Next series, Ocho. They came back with it again. Ocho, we ran it again. I got it, Ocho.
Starting point is 00:42:21 We got three yards. Right. Four plays later. They came back with it again. Y'all being greedy now. This man damn to push me to the other end zone. Ocho, I, hey, I got up off the ground. Ocho, he's a half, the cockroats, my heels up in the air.
Starting point is 00:42:44 I got to be walked down with you to the sideline. Don't run that month, no more. Don't run it no more. Oh, how old. Hey, you remember, hold on. His last name was Griffith. He played, he played safety for the Cleveland Browns. I think, is it Robert Griffin?
Starting point is 00:43:04 Robert, yeah. Man, he, toss crack. Here he go. He coming down here. He's coming from deep. Carson tossed the ball to Rudy. Rudy running outside. I'm feeling good.
Starting point is 00:43:19 Robert ain't looking at me at all. But when I looked up, I was looking out the side of my it hole. I was looking about the side of my earhole and thought, because the one thing I do is obviously when I'm getting ready to make contact, I close my goddamn eyes every time. I don't know how Mike Singletary did it, where his eyes was wide open so we could actually see it's hidden. But for me, right before contact, I closed my eyes.
Starting point is 00:43:44 Man, Robert, man, Robert hit me, my chin strap. You know, I used to wear my chin strap, one of them loose. Yeah, that's I was. But, um, I swear for God. My face mask was facing this way where my jaw is. In my helmet, I was looking at how I could literally look out my it hole. I'm trying to get up out of the pile. Everybody piled up on top of me.
Starting point is 00:44:05 I'm like, man, I looked at Marvin, and Hugh came over, Hugh came over to him say, don't worry about it. That's a good job. That's all we wanted to do. You did the job. Yeah. And guess what, Ocho? We get to a film studio on Wednesday,
Starting point is 00:44:20 and they don't never do this. He said, Alice Gibb, rest his soul, who was the office line coach. He said, I want to show you how you're all pro tight end how we can count on him. They showed the first foot.
Starting point is 00:44:31 Right. Booled it. The second one, we got three yards. That third one, I didn't notice at the time. I was just, it was just like, I didn't see nothing. Right.
Starting point is 00:44:43 You know what I walked and say, don't run this no more. You know, he flipped me off on the sideline. I was so, I was so swore. I didn't, I didn't even remember that. Right, right, right. I don't remember none of that. Oh, man. I was so, boy, look here, y'all had told me I had got my mind made up one time.
Starting point is 00:45:04 One time, man, yeah, hell, I'd block anybody once. He don't know what's coming. That's all right. But Michael Parsons is playing. unbelievable. Oh, yeah, crazy. He's been everything Green Bay had hoped. Yes.
Starting point is 00:45:20 Yeah. He can turn the lights out of the building. He's a, he's tremendous. His first step, he's relentless. Look how many times he gets double team. You better not block you with one guy. Not to him. You better not.
Starting point is 00:45:31 And the funny thing about it is, even when he gets double team, you know who else is double team a lot? Miles Garrett. Oh, yeah. He gets double team a lot, but the one thing that, the one thing that they're so, they're so good at is that first person doesn't matter because they're going to use hands and get skinny on them and do whatever they need to do with that second person
Starting point is 00:45:53 because when they do have that second person, it's always half a man. When they get to that second dude, if they're not square all the way in front of them, and they're just playing half a man up off that individual, they get around at every time. It was kind of like, I was like, they chip-block.
Starting point is 00:46:11 I think it was fouler. The tight end chipped him, and he got off balance, and 71 penned him. And they called Holden. That wasn't a holding. That was a pancake. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Because he got off balance. And, you know, if you get off there, if them, if them tackles get up in here.
Starting point is 00:46:27 It's a wrap. You might as stop. Just go ahead and stop and get ready for the next play. Just make, just do everything you possibly can so he don't pancake you and fall on top of you. But once he get his hands inside of you. Yeah. It's a, you know, about a door on that one. It's a rap from that point on.
Starting point is 00:46:46 But I thought Jordan Love played up. And see, this is what gets you, this is what's so frustrating about watching Jordan Love play. You're not consistent. And you watch your throws that he's making a day on show. And then you, and then you watch the past couple of games. You're like, bro, what are you doing?
Starting point is 00:47:04 Yeah, yeah. He's up and down. He's not consistent. Yes. He'll get there. Hey, when you would live in Baltimore, it's my first time, right? I got a grape soda.
Starting point is 00:47:14 Yeah. You ever seen a grape soda called Poppy? Oh, no, that's a new thing. They just somebody, this company, they was on Shark Tank, and they just sold that company, I think, the Pepsi. They just sold that company to Pepsi for like $2 billion or something. Oh, okay, okay. This is my first time.
Starting point is 00:47:31 No, that's a new, that's a new thing. No, no, no. Okay, okay. I'm going to say, I ain't never, now I know about Czech grape soda. I know about Welchek, Fanta. Yeah, Fanta. I've never seen this before.
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Starting point is 00:47:58 Oh man Oh, man, at least I got off, I got off the, uh, because I, who was it? Armand Ra, Armand Ra got off the, uh, got me off the hook. Ocho was time for prize picks player Fade, presented by prize picks. That hit. Oh. A.J. Brown, more than seven and a half targets. Who did they play?
Starting point is 00:48:38 They play the Bears. Oh, and Jalen Johnson is back. He just got activated. Ooh, A. Jalen Johnson, the real deal. He just can't seem to stay healthy. But when he's playing, you know, he's one of those that belongs in the top five conversation, but he's not in conversation because he hasn't been available.
Starting point is 00:49:01 Yep. But he has that type of talent. I like it. I like the seven targets. It just is Jalen willing to let that ball go. They did last game. Yeah. He was cooking with goddamn,
Starting point is 00:49:16 with goddamn A.J. Brown in that first half against him damn cowboys. I'm going to say yes. I'm going more than seven and a half target. Sequeur less than 77.5 yards. I think the bears are good as good at this, the rush, aren't they? Mm-hmm. He got a good run.
Starting point is 00:49:31 He's going less. Has he had a hundred-yard season yet? I think he had one. God, damn. I think he's had one. Yeah. Sequot less than 78 yards. I'm going to say less.
Starting point is 00:49:53 Less. Colston Loveland, more than a 30, more than 31 receiving yards. Coasted Loveland. Yeah, that's the tight end from Michigan. Oh, he's nice. He's going to have more. I'll say, yeah, I'll say he's going to have, but, yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:19 Because that means Zach Braun or Blankenship going to be gardening. I'm going to say, you know what, I'm going to say you're going to have more, more. Luther Burton Jr. less than 31 receiving yards. They don't really be, they throw, they throw the ball to, Rome, they throw the ball to a DJ and they throw the ball in Lovlin. They don't really get Burton.
Starting point is 00:50:43 He's nice though. He is. They don't give him to rock, though. No, not enough. Not enough. I'm going to say less. $25 to win $150 download the app today. Use Coach Shannon to get $50 in lineups after you play your first $5
Starting point is 00:51:03 line up. Prize bigs. It's good to be right. All right, don't you, it's time to play the final segment of the evening. It's time for Q and A. Yeah, we ain't for to play nothing.
Starting point is 00:51:16 We're going to get a body on. We ain't about to play about this time. Hey, hey, why don't you do me a favor? What? Hey, why don't you, um, won't you come on down to Cincinnati, man. We'll show you some good hospitality in two weeks. So you can see your Ravens losing person.
Starting point is 00:51:39 If I'm going somewhere, I'm going to go to Baltimore or I'm going to Denver. I ain't going to Cincinnati because y'all ain't got no good restaurants and I don't want to eat no chili. Hey, hold on, can I tell you something? Have you ever heard of Jeff Ruby Steakhouse? What you talk about? We don't got no good restaurant. George says it's good and terrible. Jeff Rubies?
Starting point is 00:51:56 Yep. Nah, he didn't say that. Well, Jeff Ruby, but the number one steakhouse in the world, now. Don't stop it. Aaron Owens, Burrow will come back. Now the Bengals defense want to be the 85 bears. They look good tonight. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:15 Mipas say, I take it back. See, he doesn't suck. He just had a bad game. Triple X Cup Saturday for the Bengals win. Ocho can keep that 5,900. No, just kidding, BTA. Real Wolf, the facts. I'm not mad at the loss.
Starting point is 00:52:34 I'll be ready to see if that same energy is displayed on the 14th at Paycor. I'll say it for everyone. I don't think anyone can cover Chase. No, you just got to make it difficult. You just try to make it as difficult as you possibly can, give me many different looks as you possibly can. Dr. Frank El Bellarmine said,
Starting point is 00:52:53 I hope everyone had good turkey day. Mine was cowboy great. Yeah, Doc, you've been feeling real good these last three weeks. I'm going to need Detroit to do some of about. about that big week, though. Hey, um, Hey, you know what I'm going to do for you? What?
Starting point is 00:53:11 And not only I'm going to pay your 50, I'm going to pay your 5,900 early. If you come to the game, right, I want to take it to this place down there in Cincinnati. You're talking about they ain't got no good food. They got, I want to take it to the steakhouse, right? I'm going to take it to Jeff Rouge, right? Then I want you to go check my homeboy, my home boy, Rico, right? He got a, he got a photo cake. You like funnel cakes?
Starting point is 00:53:30 Yeah. You'll enjoy it You know Funnick is called Funnelkake Island We'll go down there Sit down there You know have a quick Funnel cake
Starting point is 00:53:37 And we can talk about the game Schematics and Why y'all gonna lose No Mr. Incredible 1 Santa is real Chad paid Unk his money And the Bengals beat the Ravens
Starting point is 00:53:50 Only one is true But Unk better not say Foot or Ball tonight Ha ha ha ha They got us Yeah Yeah y'all got us yeah but that's all right you're gonna have y'all in two weeks too
Starting point is 00:54:05 nah that ain't gonna happen cal simpson ocho should have done nightcare from bingo's locker room have every bingo tell uck not to say foot or ball oh tell l jack no food for anybody yeah hey the way they played tonight they should have ate before they went to the game because if you ain't eat before you went to the game nah you ain't eating throw them place in the trash. JM 42069. Who they? Ocho said, BTA.
Starting point is 00:54:38 Jamal 87, 86, your Joy and Love narrative at various surface level. And wrong. You are repeating what you've already said. I challenge you to go watch the two games ago with seven drops and only three picks all year. Joy and love has been inconsistent. I've been watching every game because we talked about the Packers
Starting point is 00:54:56 every game. What about the overthrows? See, I noticed you just said about what the receivers didn't do, but what about what he hasn't done? Appreciate you watching, Jamal. Yeah. Brandon Martinez, Cowboys beat the previous Super Bowl champs back to back. Crazy work, ain't it?
Starting point is 00:55:20 Just for the playoff, this is for 94. Let's go. We need this more than anyone. They're playing unbelievable. Dak is throwing the ball well, and the defense have gotten better and better each week. And when they need to make plays, the defense is coming up big.
Starting point is 00:55:35 So got to give them credit. Give credit where credit is due. Allen underscore LMH, J.S.N. Go. J.S.N. is playing unbelievable. He's putting together an unbelievable season. Unbelievable season. And it's so funny.
Starting point is 00:55:50 You notice something, how hard it is for receivers to be able to repeat. You know, what they've done to last year. So many things have to go right. Jamar Chase, winning in Triple Crown last year. Now this year, out the blue, JSN is having a crazy season
Starting point is 00:56:04 with a chance to break, you know, Calvin Johnson's record. Oh, man, it's funny. Now, with the way things are going, I can't wait to see you going to be to receiver next year to emerge and do something like this. I know, uh,
Starting point is 00:56:21 jettlese say y'all better go get me a quarterback. Ooh. Y'all have people thinking I can't play no more. That ain't me. Hey, hey. tonight just said tonight aunt can't say foot or ball right ohcho ohio finally got one right got damn right oh i've been right all season long i've been right all i've been right all season long babin patel rough were terrible all day
Starting point is 00:56:45 no consistency at all especially past interference call and the holding call on john simmons was a pancake i agree i mean i mean it's so it varies i mean it seemed like they were calling a bunch of PIs in the, what is that? The Kansas City Cowboy game? Yeah. Seems like,
Starting point is 00:57:05 just like saying like, damn, every time the Cowboys went out like one drive, it was CD got like two PIs, Pitt got a pass in the film, like, well, damn. But hey,
Starting point is 00:57:15 Don Mars 58, Bo going to be playing his first Super Bowl this year. That'd be real nice. Broncos and Subo Hunter. Hey, last time the Super Bowl was in San Francisco, within the Levi Stadium. Just saying what you, I'm just saying.
Starting point is 00:57:31 Hold on. The Broncos and Panthers? Yep. Okay. I can see the Broncos and Bengals. I can see that. They both in the AFC, so one of them would have to lose
Starting point is 00:57:43 in the championship game. Well, I guess that y'all won't be there then. We already know y'all aren't going to be that with you. But that's nothing here, no thing. How about the cowboy, Batman's, uh, Lost son. Batman's lost son.
Starting point is 00:57:58 How about them cowboys? Kaifen, Vegas says Bengals' playoff chance are plus $5,900. They got a chance. It's your boy Trash Gaming, greatest sports talk show in the game. Thank you. Appreciate that.
Starting point is 00:58:17 Andrew Steny. Hey, Nightcap, fam, love you guys. I was wondering if you could share some light on what's happening at halftime as players, is in the difference when you're winning and losing. What was your game halftime routine? Thanks. It didn't matter. I mean, by the time
Starting point is 00:58:33 we got there, they're already on the board. What we're going to do in the second half? What they did, what we did, some of the things that we did in the first half, and what was their adjustment to it. And we think these are the plays that we're going to come out with in the second half, and this is what we think their adjustment's going to be. You're trying to get in there.
Starting point is 00:58:52 You're trying to get fluids in you, try to get oranges. you know, you eat a banana or something like that. That's basically it. But by the time we got down, there are already plays drawn up on the blackboard, plays that we did in the first half that were good, maybe something like,
Starting point is 00:59:07 okay, we're going to run these same plays with just different formation, what we think their adjustments are going to be, and this will be our adjustments offer their adjustments. So, you know, no panic. I mean, obviously, you know, if you're playing well, you feel good about where you are, you don't want to let up. But if you're playing bad,
Starting point is 00:59:22 you're like, that's not like us. we're beating ourselves. They're not doing anything that we haven't, that we didn't practice against or we didn't see on tape. Uh, DAC ain't MVP though. We've already seen the three regular season win of playoff games, then talk.
Starting point is 00:59:44 Well, he's playing well. Like I said, the only, the only person that I think is playing better than Dak right now, I can definitively say, is Matthew Stafford. Matthew Stafford playing better than everybody right now.
Starting point is 00:59:54 Uh, logic Q6. Uh, unko, getting close to two million subs. Need to make that push before it's 2026. Yeah, we're trying, bro. We try and that's a, hey, tell family, friends and loved ones. We're at, uh, 1.90. Monat.
Starting point is 01:00:08 So we're 100,000, we're 100,000 shout. But we, hey, we try two men. That'll be huge, man, be huge. Samuel, Ramirez, 6704. How were them dry-ass glizzes, Ocho? Oh, they were good. They was good. They was good.
Starting point is 01:00:26 One thing about it, you know, I'm not shame. I'm one of the few people who don't fall victim to the societal pressures, you know, about eating hot dogs, about eating bananas publicly. It's something that I will do that I did when I was a child. And that's not changing. That's not changing. I know other people aren't comfortable, you know, within themselves to be able to do so. But I'm one that just doesn't care.
Starting point is 01:00:47 Nor should you. I just don't eat hot dogs. You don't know what you're missing. I do. So you didn't eat beanies and whitties when you was little? No, we had poking beans. Yeah, same. Bees and we need pork and beans.
Starting point is 01:01:03 Yeah. You know? But we didn't add no extra beanie. We didn't add no extra weanes. Whatever was in that can, that was it, that was in that pot. Well, you ain't cut up the hot dogs in it? Mm-mm. Oh.
Starting point is 01:01:14 What? No. Plug 6.02 says, Pair character lifting some weight, said, keep up. Reckless TRE says slow feet don't eat. Can't coach or teach quick feet. You can't. Cannot.
Starting point is 01:01:33 Philly talked with P.A., this Cowgirl team beat the Mahomes team at his lowest with mediocre wire receiver quarter play. 14 flags, one by three. Mahomes at his lowest better than that. I don't know about his lowest, but Mahomes is still Mahomes. You know, he's over 3,000 yards passing,
Starting point is 01:01:50 if I'm not mistaken. he had what 22 touchdowns passing seven interceptions I think he has another three touchdowns rushing I mean he's played look you have to look people measure Mahomes at his lowest against everybody else's best because if you measure Mahom at his best what are we talking about here
Starting point is 01:02:12 what are we talking about not even the conversation no but you know look guys are playing better Drake May is playing unbelievable. Josh Allen is throwing and running for a bunch of touchdowns. Matthew Stafford is off the Richter scale. Dak is playing unbelievable. Jalen Hurts.
Starting point is 01:02:40 But right now, if you say, well, who's playing the best quarterback in football? I would say Matthew Stafford. Yeah. Vice 187, 187, are the reps done by, trying to change narratives on the chief. Number 15 has no offensive line running back team still need to beat them. Can y'all stop whining now so we can
Starting point is 01:02:58 watch the goat number 15 play football or nah? Yeah, I was, look. And then they threw two flags and that was going to be on the Cowboys and they said they picked them up and said there's no flag on the play. Hold on. When Jake Ferguson jumped in that kettle,
Starting point is 01:03:16 I thought you couldn't use props, don't you? That's a flip. That's, uh, that Zika, Ezekieli got fined for that. He's gonna get fine. Now, if they didn't throw a flag. But it's supposed to be a flag. That's unsports black, just like a Jameson Williams.
Starting point is 01:03:28 When he did the fireman, he jumped on the, on the goal post. Uh-huh. That's a sports black penalty. Mm-hmm. I thought it said you couldn't use props. Yeah. That's a prop. I don't see.
Starting point is 01:03:39 Look, I understand it's going to be there. It starts being there at Thanksgiving and it stays throughout Christmas. I get all of that. But it is a prop. And if you can't use props, you can't, say, well, that's a staple that Cowboys game during this time of year. It is.
Starting point is 01:03:54 And the Cowboys do a great job. They're very philanthropic and they're great in the community. But it's still a damn prop and it should have been a 15-yard penalty. Montevius heard 719 said, oh, I want them same three actors you have for my boy CD Sunday night when you tried to pile on him. He had a bad game. CD is elite.
Starting point is 01:04:12 Everybody know it. I didn't say he wasn't. But did he drop those passes? He did. So what we're supposed? So what we're supposed to do? So if a guy plays bad, we're supposed to overlook the bad
Starting point is 01:04:23 and only highlight the good? Because when he was going for 16, 17,700 yards, we talked about, man, CD making plays, CD making plays. But we're just supposed to overlook that because he's in great, it's okay. We're not trying to undo anything any great player is done. But it would be disingenuous for Ocho and I
Starting point is 01:04:42 not to highlight that CD dropped a bunch of passes on Monday night. He did, I mean Sunday night. He did. Everybody saw it. You make it seem like we're making it up. He dropped those. The ball hit him in the hand.
Starting point is 01:04:55 The ball beat him up. Today he made every catch that was catchable. Mm-hmm. That happens. Quarterback, hey, Lamar Jackson did not play well tonight. That doesn't mean he's not a two-time league MVP. That doesn't mean that he hasn't been a pro bowl and an all-pro player. That just means tonight.
Starting point is 01:05:20 And in sports, you have to update your resume. Vice, 187, 187, every damn drive, Dak got help. Y'all out here on all these TV shows are talking about Dak, I play Mahon. MoFo got two number one receivers that need to help every drive. I'll play who. Dack is played.
Starting point is 01:05:39 Would I take Dak over my home? No. But to say Dak didn't play well, it's just not true. Yeah. Played extremely well. Very well. And stop using the ref as an excuse. Well, I think the thing is that for the longest time, that's what people have been saying about Kansas City.
Starting point is 01:05:55 The Chiefs, yeah, yeah. Has everything been the Chiefs? Everything's been the refs. Everything's been the refs. The refs them out. The rest's doing this. The refs this. No, no. Noddy, now they're saying it. Now they're saying it for the Cowboys. Jason Zeldorf, 7080 with the Kansas City Swifties losing to the Cowgirls. I don't see them going to the playoffs. There's a great chance. They missed the playoffs this year. Yeah. basically have to win out and see if 11 and 6 is good enough
Starting point is 01:06:23 to get them into the playoffs. Brian B.B. Gaming. I think we're talking about Kansas City. I think after the Bengals bungle hole slapping the Ravens, it confirmed Ocho may have elite ball knowledge we haven't seen before. He got lucky. Like he said, every square of final nut here and there.
Starting point is 01:06:44 No, that wasn't luck. Luck is not, luck is paying a lotto and picking the right numbers. That's luck. Me telling you that the Bengals are going to be the Ravens is pure ball knowledge. And that's what I have.
Starting point is 01:06:54 You said they were going to make the play out last year. Who said that? You? I don't remember last year. It's 2025. All right. Bracks and Strickland. A. Nightcap,
Starting point is 01:07:05 I appreciate y'all do so much love. Are you going to be near Columbus, Ohio, so I can purchase a bottle and possibly get you to sign it. If not, how could I get you to sign it? Go Browns. I don't even know we're not in Ohio yet, are we? Yeah, that's on the thing, though.
Starting point is 01:07:24 It's on the docket, bro. So we're coming. In the next six months, we're going to be in Ohio because that's on one of the, we're talking to distribution in Ohio. So I'm sure Columbus, probably be Columbus. Nah, what's Cleveland?
Starting point is 01:07:41 Cleveland, Cincinnati, more than likely would be the places that we go. I am King Rail 47. Bingo kittens ain't going nowhere, Patriots. To the Subo, come on home, Ocho. All right. All right. Keep that same energy now.
Starting point is 01:08:01 We are. Armando, 1154, Ocho. Who cares about them Bengals? Payunk is 59, Hunter. It's time for your palm olive degrees of bubble bath. Chuck Smith, the fourth. I saw Ocho at the game and he helped me with my woman's woman problem. He helped me get her back.
Starting point is 01:08:24 Ocho, to go for real. Hey, hey, eh, uh, before the game on the sideline, maybe like, hey, Ocho, man, I'm having, I'm having a problem. I have a woman problems. See, I'm telling you, we need to have a therapy session for people that's having issues, you know, in relationship. So me and him, we made a video together.
Starting point is 01:08:39 Y'all did? Yeah, I made a video with him so he could, listen, miss, I'm sure y'all going through your problems, you know, but whatever, it's time to come. back home. Now, if we have to go looking for you, it's going to be a problem. That was it. Simple. Therapy session, I'd be on the couch talking to myself.
Starting point is 01:08:58 Yeah, man. Yeah. I say a lot of people say, well, how are y'all? How are y'all going to give people advice? You know, if y'all, if y'all don't have successful relationships, well, those are the people you want to talk to. Not the people that
Starting point is 01:09:13 do. Yeah, exactly. So who's better than that? And then the people that've been together for, you know, 30, 40 years, they're going to lie to you. They ain't going to tell the truth. They ain't going to tell the truth. They're going to be saying all this right stuff on how we did. And now, ah, come on, man.
Starting point is 01:09:31 Dave Dundee, 74, what were your favorite and least favorite stadiums to play in and why? The vet in Philly was awful. The Astrodome in Houston was terrible. Cleveland Municipal Stadium. Cincinnati was a drag two damn that's messed up my favorite place my favorite place to play in
Starting point is 01:09:55 I love hostile environments I was very comfortable in chaotic atmospheres was Oakland Oakland was crazy yeah low you got out there before once they were past baseball season hey
Starting point is 01:10:09 hey uncle new goddamn fans in Oakland in the black hole bro We're in the same division. In Oakland, I played them when they were at the Coliseum. Right. They're on another level. They're different.
Starting point is 01:10:24 Yeah. Outside of that, my favorite place is a play, man. Obviously, playing at high-ins field against the Steelers or playing at M&T Bank Stadium, man, against them. We got damn Ravens, boy. Oh, there was a joy. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:38 But the vet, the House of Pain, the Astrodome, Cleveland, Cincinnati, man. And I hate to play it anywhere that had a baseball infield, you know, because you get there September, baseball is still going on. Chargers and the Raiders, Oakland. Yeah, and I played it both. And Miami, too. Miami.
Starting point is 01:11:05 Did they just play in y'all stadium? That would have been Joe Robbie back then, huh? You know who had it? We had it. Damn, I don't know how I forgot. The Rockies played the mile high for you. Oh, for real? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:23 So I hated that, too. Thank you guys for joining us for another episode of Nightcap as you watch the Ravens go down to the Bengals. 32 to 14. But anyway, we're not here to talk about that. We already talked about that. We talked about that enough. Thank you guys for joining us.
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