Club Shay Shay - Nightcap - Hour 2: Daily Dumb Dumb, John Hope Bryant, Ocho's fine

Episode Date: February 1, 2025

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson recap the top pop culture moments of the week including the return of daily dumb dumb, financial literacy expert John Hope Bryant joins the show, Ocho discusses uniform regulation fine and much more!03:14 - Who is today’s Daily Dumb Dumb?06:10 - Finance expert John Hope Bryant joins the show55:10 - Ocho took a fine for not following uniform regulations(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Take child support payments from him. Do you yes? He leaves it there walking on Venmo He should that makes it so much easier on him to just Venmo me instead of going to the bank He's doing everything the easiest that it can possibly be done for chase and he's done that the whole time we've been together. Why would you not want it to be easy if he's going to send you money? Why would you not want that to be easy for him? Because it takes one more thing off of chase that he has to do. You don't take child support. Let us forget Let that sink in. She said because it's easy, he should have to go to the bank and get the money and bring it like basically bring it to her.

So she when he Venmo's Venmo her the money, she blocks the payments and then says I ain't getting child support. I don't understand. What's the point? What is she doing? She doesn't she said it's too easy for him to make child support payments by vending. Oh, so she wants it to be a little bit more difficult on him to. Yes. Well, I that that that makes absolutely no sense, honey. No, I wonder what the ruling was in that case.

No shit. I wonder what the ruling was in that case. You can't block, Ocho, he's playing. You can't say he's not playing when you blocking the pavement. She tripping, she tripping big time, big time. I'm like, I had to listen to it again. She was like, because it's so easy for him and he's always doing the easiest thing possible.

Yes! Ocho, how many people have direct deposit on their bills? Because everybody got tired of writing checks, filling it out, putting it in the mail, putting a stamp on it. They say, you know what? We could just take this out every month and be done with it.

Oh yeah. Babe, you gotta move on. He done moved on with his life. That sounds like a woman that's upset that the child's father or ex-husband or whatever the case may be has moved on with his life. That's what happens when you still have feelings. When you're a little bitter. When you're a little bitter because if you're not bitter you let everything happen very smoothly so you don't have any type of situation. Oh yeah, no, no, I don't, not combative-ness. What's the word I'm looking for?

Yeah. I'm looking for a word I really can't find it. Talk to me. Yeah. Yeah, that too. Yeah, auto pay. I ain't got no auto, well, I do got auto pay, but Shelly set that up. Great guy, great financial guy.

Have some great ideas of how and what you should do if you get some money, how you can save your money. He and I had a great conversation talking about, he told me, like, if your ass is on your ass, you not set. So without any further ado, let's give it up. Good friend of mine, John Hobart. John, how you doing?

All good, my man. Good to be with you. Good to be with you. So a couple of weeks ago, you did a- You know what? You know what? You know what? The ladies had talked to me about you

since you were at the forum and they said, you know what the biggest thing on Shannon Sharp is? I was like, I don't know if I'm gonna answer this question. No, no, no, the biggest thing on Shannon Sharp is his credit score. He's got a credit score.

He's got an 800 credit score. He said, this brother's making smart sexy. We've been making dumb sexy for way too long. We've dumbed down and celebrated it. It's time to make smart sexy again. You wanna impress me? Give me an A in math. You wanna impress me?

Don't just be cute. When you go to the club tonight, when you go to the club tonight, you ask her a name, yeah, you fine. Then what's your credit score? That's your partner for life. Anyway, I heard that you're a very high credit score, Shannon, kudos to you, brother.

I am, I'm trying to get it back to 850. I'm trying to get it back to 850. It's been real slow to get back, to get it back up there, but I'm trying. Yeah. Hey, brother John, I'm glad you opened up with that. I'm glad you opened up with the credit score thing. For the people that are in the chat,

and I see this discourse many times, especially on Twitter, where people are always arguing. There'll be a question, would you rather 800 credit score or a certain amount of money? And it'd be a lot of money, let's say just a million dollars, it might be. And every time on Twitter,

they arguing for hours and hours at a time, and everybody chooses a certain amount of money as opposed to a credit score. For those that are in the chat, can you please explain to them how important it is to have a credit score over any amount of money? People see the dollar figures and the amount of money, and they forget credit. I want the lump sum of money. Yeah, Ambassador Andrew Young, who was Dr. King, by the way, good to see you, Chad.

Yes, sir. God bless you, man. Both of you guys are legends. When Ambassador Young was on that balcony with Dr. King, he was assassinated. He's also built the city I'm in now, is the only international city in the American South, the biggest economy in the South,

the 10% economy in the US. And he would say, to live in a system of free enterprise and not to understand the rules of free enterprise must be the very definition of slavery. So you make money, my boy Tony Rustler, billionaire, taught me this lesson. You make money during the day. Ressler, billionaire, told him, taught me this lesson. You make money during the day. He owns Atlanta,

Atlanta Hawks for those who are just sports fanatic fanatics. That's how he made his money. That was originally his toy. It was just something to play with. Now it's worth billions, but he made his money in finance, actually, in areas management anyway,

build his wealth. A really good guy. He said you make your money during the day. You build wealth in your sleep. So this is a similar situation. People become obsessed with the wrong thing. You ask a very good question. I want to get that cash. I want to get this dollar. I want to get this bag. I want to get this money. I want to get the... useless, completely useless. Money has a velocity. It's not stopping. It will go. And if you're financially illiterate, people who are illiterate will separate you from that dollar. 92% of all GDP of Blacks in America, $1.6, $1.7 trillion we generate and spend every year, 92% is consumption.

So the man, if you want to call it that, he knows. You're just going to go spend it. They don't need to hire you to be the spokesman for Louis Vuitton. You're going to be a walking billboard for it anyway. They don't need to hire sports speakers to be Gucci spokespeople and whatever the brands are. They're going to wear it on anyway because our assets are all too often on our ASS. So because we are with the rules of publishing

the plain through this level, we kill it. Special sports, the arts, politics, faith, the rules of published and the plain through this level. But we have never been taught capitalism and free enterprise and financial literacy, which I consider to be financial literacy is a civil rights issue of this generation. So it's what you don't know

that you don't know that's killing you, but you think you know. So now I'm gonna drop a bomb here that makes the point that money in and of itself is absolutely useless. If I gave a homeless guy, I was homeless for six months of my life when I was 18 years old.

It was economic homeless, most homelessness is mental illness and depression and other things, drugs. If I was, if you give a homeless man a million dollars and do nothing else, he'll be broken six months because if nothing changes here, and then nothing changes here, values, then nothing's going gonna change here. And here you will walk away from your money or somebody will walk away with your money. And we wanna blame the man for these bad contracts

in the music business and bad, you signed it. The clan didn't tell you to sign it. Nobody hit, hit, still set up your head with a butcher knife and said, sign that contract. You said, yo, I don't need to, I just want to, I just want to do the music. I just want to, I just want to play ball. I don't want to mess around with that. It's the music business.

It's the business of music. It's the sports business. It's the business of sports. And, and to say, so, so we are brilliant in so many ways. We've been doing so much with so little for so long. We can almost do anything with nothing. But we were never taught financial literacy. There was a Freedmen's Bank created in 1865

after the Civil War. Abraham Lincoln did it with Frederick Douglass. And he was killed the next month for that and promising blacks the right to vote. The bank failed. We never were taught how money works. So in some ways it's not our fault, but we live in a capitalist democracy.

So all these folks, 70% of those who win the lottery, 70% broke in five years. Wow, broke. So all this stuff about give me that money, give me that daughter, I'm gonna be really dramatic here. Let's take all the money in the world, including mine, including yours, including Shannon's Chad. Let's take it because we're green, really. We're not black at this point. We're green. We've made

it. Take all my money with all with everybody else's money, the top 3%. We just made the whole world socialist now, redistributed to everybody in the world equally. Within three years, we'll all have it back. If you don't do anything else, we'll all have it back because somebody understands how capitalism and free enterprise and money works and somebody's understand how to spend it.

People say, I can be a millionaire, I won't go broke. Yes, you will. Millionaires go broke every day. A billionaire can go broke. It's hard, but you can go broke. If your outflow exceeds your inflow, then your overhead will be your downfall. What you really want is mindset, knowledge. You know what I like about Shannon? He came into the whole global forum. We had the whole global forum and my man just was nosy. Ask Quincy Jones, how'd you get so smart? I'm just nosy as hell. I want to know everything about everything. He was nosy. He was all up in everybody's business, asking this billionaire question, asking that billionaire question, asking that CEO question, all up in my face, asking me questions,

trying to learn what he doesn't know. That's what he doesn't know. You don't know what you don't know. John, let me ask you this. And I don't know if you know this off the top of your head, but I was reading, like in the Jewish community, the dollar stays there like 43, 45 days. In the Asian community, it stays there like 20 days.

In the white community, it stays there like 10 days, 45 days. In the Asian community, it stays there like 20 days. In the white community, it stays there like 10 days, 15 days. In the black community, it stays there like two minutes. That's right. And that's with a pit stop. Ocho and I had a conversation. We'd have the conversation, Ocho was like, yes. So Doc, if I gave somebody, if I gave a person $380,000, and that's all the money I ever, they gave,

and they weren't working, they're 20 years old, let's just say 25, 30, would that money last them a lifetime? It won't last them six months. Look, it happens every day. It's called lawsuit settlements. It happens every day. You know, you go to urban radio stations, let's just have a real conversation. I mean, because Malcolm X said, we've been bamboozled.

We've been tricked. We've been fooled. We've been hoodwinked. That applies to so much. President Bill Clinton once said, it's hard to get somebody to agree to the truth when the liar's paying their paycheck. Here are the bookends. Use those two statements as bookends. Hoodwinked, bamboozled. Let us drink. Run them up.

The other comment, it's hard to get somebody to degree to the truth if a liar is paying the paycheck. Now in the middle is financial illiteracy. Now you go to an urban radio station, focusing our community and listen to the ads. 80% of the ads are pivot. Law firms, lawsuits, I mean, high interest rate, 30, you know, the C paper mortgages, C paper, auto loans is right there in broad daylight. I'm gonna go one step further. And we, so they get these settlements, slip and falls, whatever, you know,

people running in front of cars and tripping. By the way, criminal, AI is gonna make criminality really a bad business because these robotics, these cameras and artificial intelligence, you need to get a new gig. That day is soon and I mean, next several years over. But anyway, back to this point, you go to our neighborhood,

you go to a place where we grew up and here's what you see. A check casher next to a payday loan lender, next to a renter on store, next to a title lender, next to a liquor store, next to a pawn shop, fast food store, restaurant,

and a church down the street trying to make you feel a little bit better once a week. That's your neighborhood psychologist. That's your neighborhood shrink. We don't want to admit we're crazy. Oh, I can't go to a psychologist or a shrink. Somebody might think I'm crazy. If you're black in America and don't think you're crazy, you're crazy. So we go there hoop and holler used to. That's one of our problems. We don't go to church anymore. We don't have any spirituality anymore. That's a whole nother conversation. We've been really hoodwinked now because now we think money's got, we think

materialism is God, we think some rappers got anyway. So, so now the one place you could go and Hoop and Holla, we don't go there anymore. That, that, that's so you don't go crazy. Now, literally you're being pimped. A 500 credit score neighborhood. That all you see, the only place you see those places, or is it a 500 credit score neighborhood? By the way, black and brown, urban, poor, white, rural. Now you go 15 minutes away in every city in America.

I've mapped every zip code in America by credit scores. I hope financial wellness index. You can go to my website and put in your zip code, I'll tell you your credit score in your neighborhood. I'll tell you how you're living. You go 15 minutes away from that zip code and you're in a 700 credit score neighborhood. In Chicago, I think it's Lincoln something,

and then 15 minutes from there, I think it's Garfield Park or something, 500 versus 700, 700 versus 500. You go, you know, Atlanta is the same thing. LA is the same thing, everywhere, wherever you are. Now, in that seven to Chris Korn neighborhood, oh, two parent households, prime financing, 75% home ownership rate, prime almost non-existent,

whole foods, sit down restaurants, proper businesses, mainstream banks, right? 15 minutes away, a third world country. We think this is normal. This is why you cannot give somebody $350,000, $380,000 and think that there's, forget a lifetime, it won't last them a year. I said six months, I'll be gracious.

It won't last. If your outflow seed, your inflow, then your overhead will be your downfall. I'm gonna go one step further. We are brilliant. Black Americans are literally geniuses. We came here enslaved. My second grade grandfather on my mother, my dad's side,

and my second grade grandmother on my mother, my dad's side and my second grade grandmother on my mother's side, both slaves. My grandfather was a sharecropper. So I'm talking from the real place. We come from nothing. I got from the bottom quartile of poverty in Compton in South Central to the top 1% in one lifetime because of what we're talking about in me understanding how this system actually works.

Now we're brilliant and we're geniuses. Imagine what would have happened, Oto Sinko. Imagine what would have happened, Shannon, if we had a black Jewish business plan. Hey, it's Bobby Bones. Join me and former NFL quarterback, Matt Castle, every Wednesday for our new podcast, Lots to Say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle. Between us,

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I wanted to, I want you to explain what that means and what that actually is. Yeah, owning something versus talking about something. You know, poor people talk about other people. Hmm. Wealthy people talk about their ideas. Hmm. Go to a barber shop, go to a nail salon in black community. Go, I'm not talking about us, I'm helping out and help us.

Listen to what we're talking about. We're talking about mostly other people. You go ahead, go ahead, Chad. You like Chad or Otis Sengle, by the way? Now, it doesn't matter what you call me, I'm gonna answer. I have a question about one of the things you just said. The others talk about their ideas and how they can work together.

When it comes to us, we have a problem working together because we don't want to see each other win. We're always in competition with each other as opposed to other ethnicities. They're more so, okay, if you have this idea, well, I'm going to pick you up. And then whoever's above him, well, I'm going to pick you up. Where they always work in unison and a very small percentage of us wanna see each other win or help us get to a level where we want to.

All right, we wanna see you win. You know what, I wanna see Joe win, but I wanna see him doing better than me. Would you like me to tell you why? Why? Low self-esteem. So check this out. If you're African-American, by the way, there are only there are only African-American ghettos

in America. There are places where Italians live, where Polish people live. There are places where Caribbean blacks live. There are places where black Africans live. There are places. Caribbean blacks live. There are places where black Africans live. There are places, I wanna make sure I put black people in this, but there's only African-American ghettos in America, inner cities that are a magnet

and a holding place for poverty. What's that to relate to? When we, people say, oh, African-Americans, y'all lazy, y'all not intelligent. Really? So you went 400 years ago, halfway around the world in an agricultural economy to go get dummies from Africa and brought them all the way across the world at incredible expense and brought them to America because we're stupid? No, no, no, no, no. We were agricultural geniuses of the land.

I'm coming to your point now. They had this soil in the American South that was a gold mine. It produced crops that were incredible gold mines, cotton and tobacco is gold mines. In fact, Haiti was the wealthiest outpost for France in the world was Haiti. And that's a whole nother story. In fact, Haiti was the wealthiest outpost for France in the world, was Haiti. And that's a whole nother story.

We get to it before we end because that's the reason America exists is Haiti. But let me come back to this for a minute. So now they bring us over here. Now this guy's as big as you and Shannon now. High self-esteem, confidence, your tribal leaders, your chieftains, they captured you. They brought you here,

but they got to beat the self-esteem out of you. The first thing you gonna do is fight. You see your wife being abused. You see your children being sold off. I'm not trying to start a, anybody worked up and try to explain to them how we get to this low self-esteem. So they're abusing your wife.

They're holding you down. It takes probably eight people're holding you down. It takes quite like eight people to hold Shannon down. They're holding him down just until he stops fighting. Because that means he realizes he cannot do anything to help his wife. They broke his spirit. They're not trying to break his body.

They need his body. They're trying to break his spirit. We're not human beings having a spiritual experience. They need his body. They're trying to break his spirit. We're not human beings having a spiritual experience. We're spiritual beings having a human experience. Energy matters. So now they sold your kids off in a different direction.

So you don't have any hope for that. Most dangerous person was a person with no hope. They now abused your wife. You can't do any protect her. Now you just broke a broken man just with the way they need you. Now they put you to work building these crops. By the way, blacks and whites, poor blacks and whites were friends in the 1600s in

America on a plantation. True fact is that again, some of this we want to go deep on, but to answer your question, they had to break your spirit. They had to keep you away from books. They had to not teach you financial literacy. They needed you to have confidence in taking dead soil and bringing it back to life. What were we experts at? Africa is hot. The soil dies all the time. We were geniuses of the land, bringing it back to life.

What's the largest untapped natural resource in the world today? To this day, it's Africa. That's what everybody needs. By the way, Africa is a future to American, I mean, world demographics because the youngest people in the world are in Nigeria. Anyway, back to this story. So now you've got high confidence today. Let's fast forward now. African Americans, we're killing it in many sectors. We have incredible confidence because we're competent, but we have low self-esteem. So if I don't like me, I'm not going to like you. If I don't feel good about me, I'm not going to feel good about you. If I don't respect me, don't expect me to respect you.

If I don't love me, I don't have a clue how to love you. And here's the big one. If I don't have a purpose in my life, I'm gonna make your life a living hell. Because whatever goes around, comes around and hurt people, hurt people. There you go with crab in the barrel. So now you have all these smart people who are hooked on cash, not building wealth.

Hooked on giving it away versus collecting it. Hooked on transactions versus relationships. Hooked on what I got to get versus what I have to give. Being told religion isn't important anymore, forget about that spirituality, now the devil's gotcha. When you and Shannon get up in the morning and me, the devil says, oh shit, they're up. There's not enough of us. Because when you succeed, I love it. I applaud you.

I don't have a self-esteem problem. It's okay if you don't like me, I like me. So, so, but self-esteem and arrogance are two different things. So what do we need? Five pillars of success. So my last book is financial literacy for all is the bestseller. One before that was up from nothing. What before that, I used six of them, but this last, the one before that up from nothing, I had five pillars. As much education as you can shove down your throat. How do we reverse what we're talking about, O.S.S. As much education as you can shove down your throat.

That's why you see books all around me in my office. I'm always reading. That's why, again, Shannon knows it. You're nosy. I love it. Number two, understanding how the language of money works. Financial literacy is as important as the right to vote, as a four-year education. A 700 credit score is as important as a four-year college degree.

Yes, I said it. And everybody who works for me has a college degree, and they better have a good credit score. Because you never had a billionaire that didn't do it on good debt. You never had a successful country or city that didn't do it on good debt. You cannot succeed unless you understand how the system works and you need cheap access to good credit. Number three, you need self-esteem and confidence.

Well, number three, we need family structure and resiliency. Number three. Number four, you need self-esteem and confidence. We just covered that. Number five, you need role models in the right environment. So why do our kids want to be rap stars, athletes and drug dealers to the exclusion of everything else? Because that's all they see. In our neighborhoods, a symbol is a success. We're not dumb and we're stupid. We're brilliant. We're modeling what we see. Let's give the kids something

different to see. Let's widen their aperture. Let's make smart sexy again. Let's make, forget black lives matter, let's make black capitalists matter. So that's why I say a black Jewish business plan. Number one way you build wealth in America, home ownership. What do we argue about? Endlessly, because we have 41, 42, 43% of black people own a home compared to 75 percent of our mainstream counterparts read white. The whole tax code in America is designed to support credit scores. I'm sorry, designed to support home ownership. But we want to argue about John, you know, there's somebody crying in the home, the bank owns the home. If you don't pay.

I mean, I can go with this all day. I like math is it doesn't have an opinion. But no one taught us this. I mean, this is basic stuff. Three things have never gone down in value. Stock market value, real estate values, and GDP of America, gross domestic price. And the history of America, gone up, there was a recession and receded and corrected above the line every time.

But John, let me ask you this, but here's the thing though, John. You know, in order to really invest in a stock, you got to have what we call disposable income. If you're using check, if you live living check to check,, you got to have what we call disposable income. If you're using check, if you live living check to check, if you got to pay a mortgage or rent, you got to pay a card note and you got to pay bills, that leaves you very little disposable income in order to put into the market. So therefore, there was like a lot of people that don't have disposable income, it's hard for them to accumulate, Forget generational wealth, just enough that when they retire, because I ain't really count no,

I ain't really count no Medicaid and Medicare to take care of Shad and Shar. So I'm just, I'm just like, hey, that's going to be over with. But when you don't, so how would one that has very little or marginal disposable income accumulate something that when they retire,

they have something, they have a nice little nest egg. So you got, you don't have a self-esteem problem, Shannon. No, hell no. I love me. You won't have a problem when I say to you that what you just said is wrong. Okay. Now, when it comes to professional sports and home sports, I got to come to you and just shut up because I have no clue. Okay. But there's occasionally, occasionally I might have something, I gotta come to you and just shut up. Because I have no clue. Okay. But there's occasionally occasionally I might have something that I can

give to you. And it was a beautiful setup. That is just incorrect. My mother worked 3232 years at McDonald's aircraft making $15 an hour. She died September last with a million dollar network. She had bought and sold seven homes. Her credit September last with a million dollar net worth. She had bought and sold seven homes. Her credit score like he was 854, I believe it was. He used to go over 850, he was 854. So when somebody watching this says,

well, Shannon just made a great point and he did make a great point. Here you go. I don't have any disposable income. You went to Starbucks last week, smoking cigarettes. If you go to smart Starbucks three times a week and you've got a cigarette habit, that's $6,000 a year. You're making $36,000 a year, that's 20% of your income.

I'll let that sink in for a minute. The cigarettes on the box says this shit will kill you. Like, I don't know if I can say that on your pocket. This stuff will kill you. All right, so stop smoking cigarettes and go get your curative machine at home and make your own coffee. You've now just recaptured three grand, two grand. Take that, put it into, by the way, don't even do that. Just do, just stop doing silly stuff like going to a fast food restaurant every other night, cook something at home. It won't, by the way, might extend your life because you cannot have a soul food way, it might extend your life

because you cannot have a soul food diet for the rest of your life and live to 80 years old. There are no 300 pounds, 80 year olds. And that's a diet that was designed for slavery. Anyway, back to this point. They were working it off, Doc. You could eat like that when you were in those fields working 14 hours a day.

You had to because they threw the worst parts of the animal out back as a disrespect to you. All you could do is turn it into a delicacy. Whole cake, grits, hog moss, pig feet, fried chicken. Ox tail, neck bone. Ox tails, I love ox tails. And we put salt on all the meat so it didn't die in the heat.

Yes, you had to cure it. That's your high protection. You're absolutely right. Obesity, right? So I love soul food twice a month, not three times a day. That's why black folks are inflamed. We're not fat, we are inflamed. 75% of all disease, my wife,

Shachar's a wellness expert, she'll tell you 75% of all disease lives on inflammation. Inflammation, what does it comes from? Bad environment, bad food. Back to this example. Let's assume that you don't have a, I'm about to say crack at it. You don't have a-

Starbucks or cigarette, alcohol. Yeah, assume you don't have that. You're just wasting a little bit of money. Take $25 that you were gonna go spend on whatever and do fractional share investment. Okay. You can buy a fraction of Warren Buffett's company, a $25 fraction of a share in Target,

Target, Walmart, you know, wherever you, whatever you're dressed in, whatever you like, go buy that and do whatever you can afford. $5, $10, one, you can do a dollar fractional share. Don't tell me what you cannot do. So somebody watching this, you're about to give somebody some money. Somebody watching this, I'm going to say, you got a check coming to you because of Ocho Cinco and Shannon Sharp. You got to check five, six, 10,000, maybe $20,000. It's called the EITC. People will say, what's that? The minute somebody in your

chat says, what's that? Congratulations. You make this in $60,000 a year, which is half of this country. You just got a check from the federal government through Shannon Sharp and Ocho Senko. It's called the EITC. If you make $38,000 a year, you live in a small town, you listen to this podcast, you have three children, the government owes you a check for working. It's not a handout for $7,500, about $7,700. If you've never filed, it's retroactive for three years. That's 20 grand. One out of four Americans who qualify for it never even asked for it. That's $20 billion a year, Shannon. Wow. That's black people, to be real clear. That's us. We don't have a tax pro. We don't have anybody doing our taxes. So, so, and if you're renting for the same cause of a mortgage payment, you should be owning the house. Rent to own. You're, you're, you're, you're paying money

uptown with people who don't like you with money you don't have to buy something you can't afford to be in some place people don't want you there. In in a dormant in a house that you're that I own. I'm the landlord. I'm literally the landlord. I'm the I was I'm the largest minority owner of single family rental homes in America. Well, I was I bought I built this company Promise Homes Company owned 700 homes between here and Florida. I sold most of the company in 2021. And I did that over five years. And I encouraged people not to rent from me. Rent and get out, go buy a house. So it's a misnomer that you can't do this.

Whether you believe you can or whether you believe you can't, you're right. Is the glass half full or is it half empty? Depends on looking at the glass. One thing I know about you two, you're optimists. Over the rounded through it, you're gonna get to it. You're gonna run over somebody to do it. Is that right? Yeah. That's exactly what your listeners should be should be doing. Never say never. Don't say I can't do this. It's impossible because I'm making a little money. No, you got to have the right habits. Most of success is hustle and good habits and optimism.

Money's overrated. I never focus on money and I got more than I need. I never focus on it. I focus on passion, purpose, authenticity, what I can, what I, what I, I'm, anyway. I'm trying, look, I can move somebody's credit score listening to you. It was making $40,000 a year. I can turn it into a homeowner in a year.

I can get your credit score up in 54 points in six months through my whole financial coaching. I can get your debt down $3,800. Your savings up $1,200 in six to eight months. I'm doing it through, I have 1,500 offices at Operation Hope that do financial coaching for free inside of bank branches. So the bank then says yes to youth to become a homeowner. I'm not talking theory to you, brother. I've done four and a half billion dollars. I've invested four and a half billion dollars in the black and brown neighborhoods through Operation Hope with the exact stuff we're talking about. This is not theory.

John, if we don't get you out of here on this, what would be your one best piece of advice you could give our chat tonight? Get off your rear end and stop complaining, stop whining, stop obsessing with stuff. It's like, racism is like rain. It's either falling someplace or it's gathering. So get out an umbrella in the color you like

and start strolling through it because it's not going to change. It's been around since Jesus. It's not going to change. So you must get your head right, get your mind right, get your spirit right, get your life right. Get out of your own way. Realize that you're God's child.

No one has these fingerprints. They're completely unique and they're yours, and you could be great. You can be Ocho Senko and Shannon Sharpe, because they were once you. You can be John O'Brien, you can be Charlamagne, you can be Stephen A. Smith, but there's no billionaire,

there's no billionaire who was, there's no entertainer or no sports figure who's a billionaire who didn't do it by cross without crossing over into business. Yeah, he's only 100%. You can't sell enough movie tickets or tick or concert tickets of merchandise. You can't do it with the Ocho Cinco going back. Can't do it with that cash. Won't get there. You build wealth in your sleep,

stocks, bonds, homeownership, investments, businesses. One MBB at Operation Hope, we created a half a billion, sorry, a half a million black businesses since George Floyd's murder. I'm committed to creating a million black businesses by 2030, this is the black Jewish business plan, right? And there's only 3.1 million black businesses in America. We've already created 14, 50,000 of them just under 500,000. That's 12%. Give or take of the

national average. And I'm not going to stop because this is the one of the ways that we can do it well using our hustle or our talents. Don't just don't just stand on the mic on that damn thing. Don't rock the mic on the the mic rental company. Own the stage rental company. Own the porta potties at the movie studio and the video shoot. Own the lighting system that gets rented. Nobody, these companies don't own that stuff.

They rent that stuff. Be the rental company, the VIP bracelets, but own the company that prints those things and sell it to the nightclub. Stop being a fool going to the nightclubs, making $500 on a bottle of champagne to cost them 25. Be the company that sells them the bottles. Don't go to the club, own the club.

I was with the Mike Maples, who's one of the top 20 venture capitalists. I'm sorry, I'm past, am I talking too much? No, go ahead, bro. Go ahead, go ahead, go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead. But my mother, my mother always said, you know, it'll be the old guy in the club. So if we all get out, I'm going to leave. Right. So this guy named Mike Maples, he's a big venture capitalist in Silicon Valley. I was talking to him one day. I said, Mike,

tell me about your family. Oh, just normal family. Mike, I didn't ask you that. And she told me about your family. Well, my dad worked for Microsoft. Okay. What are you doing? Microsoft? Oh, he worked for dual gates. That's like technically everybody works for dual gates.

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Hope you could join us for the postseason run. What do we do? By the way, we need a black Bill Gates as much as we need a black president, by the way, because that will create more, that'll create other billionaires, other centimillionaires, 100 million other multimillionaires who then create philanthropy in their neighborhoods, who hire people who look like them, mentor people who look like them. The cascade effect of that would be incredible. Back to this example.

So I said I work for Bill Gates. OK. I asked him 14 questions. If I said, well, he was the president of of software. I said, hold on, slow down. Did you just say your dad was the president of software and Microsoft? So he really did work for Bill Gates. Yeah. I said, you said your life was normal. Tell me more. Tell me about your first business. Well, you know, my dad, I started this little business. I forget what it was. You know, whatever, newspaper business, this little business. I forget what it was, you know, whatever, newspaper business, whatever it was, I forget what it was.

But he was 12 years old. And he made this the biggest business in his neighborhood. And he went to his dad one day, here's the point. He said, dad, I'm so excited. I made this the biggest business in our neighborhood. I'm gonna sell this business to Disney. Mindset, his senior said, I'm ashamed of you, son. We don't think like that in this household.

I raised you better than that. I'm sitting scratching my head going, wait a minute, the kid just said, I'm a businessman, I'm gonna sell my business now to Disney. He said, no, no, no, in this household, we don't build a business and sell it to Disney. We build a business to buy Disney. Mm, wow.

Drop the mic. What is Mike Mabel's doing today? Buying businesses. You model what you see. So we need to become what we wanna see. Look, anybody out there saying, let's just give it away. Even if you wanna distribute money like a socialist, you got to first collect it like a capitalist.

So anybody out there who has a problem with what we've been saying in this last hour, let me say this to you. You try government, charity. You try social justice. You try guilt. You try whatever you tried. We've tried a bunch of stuff. It ain't worked.

Why don't you try capitalism? Hello? It seems to work for everybody else. Everybody who's trying to use free enterprise and capitalism to set themselves free has succeeded. We're brilliant. Why can't we do it? We can, we just have never tried it.

That's what I'm teaching at scale. That's what you're doing. When I listen to you, you did a whole thing when you're talking about credit scores. I mean, I remember you said 800. Do you know, not everybody was thinking, well, I want to be like Shannon, I need an 800 credit score.

Ultra single be dropping, be dropping some gems. And you guys, you be weaving knowledge. Charlamagne is very good at this, weaving knowledge and education into the entertainment. That's what we need at scale. We gotta make this mainstream right now. John, I appreciate you joining us tonight. That's what we're going to do from time to

time. Our job here at clubs at a nightcap is to not only entertain, that's what we do. We inform people about what transpired in the game and so forth and so on. But we also like to educate people. We like people because we want to see our people succeed. And what better way to do it is that people that's been successful, sometimes they get, we get redundant here from Ocho and been successful, sometimes we get redundant hearing from Ocho and I. And sometimes we need to bring a new voice in, someone that's succeeded on a grander scale that can speak to things that Ocho and I, we need help understanding and talking

about. So for you to come on tonight and educate our group, our chat, we greatly, greatly appreciate that. Well, let me say this. I think you're brilliant. I think what you've done here is brilliant. I think that you guys are a great partnership. You played very well on each other.

And I think it's very elegantly done. And I love seeing you shine. I love seeing you succeed. And other people I know, Bishop T.D. Jakes and Charlamagne and Stephen A. Smith, they're all rooting for you. And that beautiful thing. A black man loving another black man and completely straight. So, uh, so your audience, I want you to hear now this last thing for anybody, all of the folks who want to be ball players and football, God bless you. Fantastic. No problem

with it. But 70% of all those in the NBA, 70% of all those in professional football, bankrupt five years after retirement. Two. Two years. Thank you, Ocho. You would know better than me. I would be concerned. And by the way, and then your wife leaves you. Yeah. So this is, if your outflow exceeds your inflow, then your overhares is going to be your downfall. If you've made all this money your whole life and you're now using people

fed on you, protecting you, serving you, giving you a paycheck, right? And then the paycheck stops, but your lifestyle is at a point where the bills keep coming and everybody else around you expects you to fund their lifestyle and you're not doing them a favor, by the way. All this posse that you're funding, you're not doing them a favor because they can't take care of themselves. You need people to be self-reliant, give them a hand up, not a handout. And then when they, when you need help, they can't come to help you because you're the source. So we've got to get our mind right. Because even when those who are succeeding at the top of their game, aren't using an opportunity to turn an income into wealth

that pays you when you're asleep. So you can be Reggie Jackson. You can be Magic Johnson. You can be Michael Jordan. You can be Shannon Sharp. There's a whole list of the folks who've actually done this right. Hey John, I need a couple of those cars that Reggie got.

You know Reggie got a big car. Reggie's ballin' man. Reggie is ballin'. He's ballin'. John, thank you so much. I really appreciate that, man. I'll be in touch with you. You know, you and I, we talk.

We gonna get together and do the, have a chew the fat, sit down and do some business together. Bro, I really appreciate what you're doing for our community and partaking wisdom on our chat tonight. So I greatly appreciate that, man. My pleasure, seeing you love and light everybody. You go out and get financial literacy for all. It's my newest book, Peace and Light.

And go get it, go get an operation with counseling. I'll give you a thousand dollar free scholarships to go to operation, get a years worth of coaching and counseling. So don't say that Shannon didn't do anything for you. Shannon and Otro single. Yeah. Thank you, boss. Thank don't say that Shannon didn't do anything for you. Shannon and Ocho single. Yeah. Thank you, boss.

Thank you. Appreciate that. Peace. That was John Hope Bryant. Oh, he's brilliant, Ocho. I mean, the way he can lay out, the way he can explain it to you, what you should buy, and that's what you have to do. You know, people are like, well, I ain't got no money.

It's funny you ain't got no money, but you got money to start by Starbucks drive-thru every day and buy a $5 to a $7 latte. You got money to do that. You got money to go on all these vacations. I've never understood barring money to go on a vacation. I've never understood that. Okay, maybe that's just me. I'm not gonna go, if I can't go and pay for it,

I'm not finna go into debt to do it. Yeah, and you know, one of the things I've always had, you notice, I know you always talk about you don't go and pay for it, I'm not finna go into debt to do it. Yeah, you know, one of the things I've always had you notice, I know you always talk about you don't go on vacation, but I also don't go on vacation until I put in some type of work. I see people listen, there's nothing wrong with that. There's nothing wrong with that. Just my mindset is a little different. Unless I, when I think about going on vacation, vacation to me, the reason for going on vacation

is because I put in a certain amount of work and the body needs to reset. I need to have a, a, a mental lapse of just of calmness and peace. Yes. I just go on a vacation. Just to be going on vacation, just take pictures and have fun. I never saw the point in that. But don't joke. That is me personally.

Can I ask you a question? How can I go on vacation and I'm worried the whole time how the hell am I gonna pay for this? That ain't no piece of chock. I mean, I've got to get away like, I ain't got a worry in the world. I know when I get back, I still got, my mortgage is gonna be paid,

the car payment gonna be paid, X amount of money going to savings, yada, yada, yada. I don't have to worry about paying for this vacation. If I'm on the vacation and I'm like, oh Lord have mercy, woo. I pro, I pro, I pro, I pro, I pro, I pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, pro, You think that charge is gonna magically disappear on your credit card? And they charge, I don't know what credit card rate is cause I pay all my, probably what, what's credit card rate? 15, 20% and you pay, you got a $5,000, $10,000 credit card

and you send in $200 a month. What the hell you gonna do? You'll get somebody else gonna be paying that off. Is it? It all starts with one of the key things that he did say that I always talk about. I mean, those that have followed me throughout the years, I always talk about financial literacy

and having a discipline. If you don't have discipline, it doesn't matter what amount of money they give you, you gonna run through it. It gonna be gone. You gonna run through it. That's why when that argument on Twitter happens every so often, where people talk about credit score

and a certain amount of money, and I see all the Twitter go with, oh, I want this amount of money because where it is, I'm gonna just pay it off and then I'm gonna flip it and I'm gonna do this. They got all these ideas, not really understanding. That's not how it works. Oh Joe, remember I told you the story, I was in the NFL?

And my credit was so bad, I couldn't get a car? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And probably Vample. I couldn't get a car? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And probably sample. I couldn't get a car. And so, I mean, now, if you got if you want to pay cash from everything, they'll graciously accept it. But now, if I got that kind of cash, I won't put it away. I want to put a large portion of the way and let it work for me,

because I know I'm going to get somewhere between four and eight percent. Yeah. I ain't trying to I ain't trying to pay no car. I ain't trying to put $200,000, pay a car for $200,000. Or we'll have the car cost 30,000, 40,000 or pay, or I wanna get a house and I gotta pay for the whole house, pay it off. Or I have to get some, nah, hell nah.

Nah, that's just me. But John, we really appreciate you. Hopefully, Chad, you enjoyed that conversation about how to be financially and fiscally responsible because at the end of the day, ain't nobody coming to save you. Now, you can hope, you can hope. And we're not doing political.

I've made peace with the decision that the American public made on November, that second Tuesday in November. I've made peace with that. I ain't finna work my nerves up. These four years gonna go by in a breeze, just like the last four years and the four years before that.

So y'all can get all upset and tell me, oh, I don't know what I'm gonna do. I know what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna keep my head down. I'm gonna keep my ears closed and I'm gonna go to work. Sing your love for me. That's what I'm gonna do. Now, I don't know what y'all gonna do, but I'm gonna tell you what Shannon Sharpe's gonna do. That's what I'm gonna keep my ears closed and I'm gonna go to work. That's what I'm gonna do. Now I don't know what y'all gonna do,

but I'm gonna tell you what Shannon Sharpe's gonna do. That's what I'm gonna do. And when these four years is up, I'm gonna look up, there's gonna be somebody come in, make a whole lot of promises and they don't deliver. Some people are gonna get delivered, that's gonna get delivered on and some people are not. But y'all keep worrying about this.

I ain't worried about it. I can't, I can't, I can't work my nerves up. I've made peace with it, Ocho. I think they should also. Ocho, the Eagles are selling snow from their playoff win. They box it up to snow, put it in a, I mean, they put it in a little container and you can buy it. I think it's 9.99, 7.99.

Is that too much, Ocho? Yeah, that's too much. That's too much because listen, but one of the fans, Philadelphia, the culture in general, they should be used to winning by now. They should be used to winning by now. We're having the snow and there's no point. Cause we're making contention every year.

You're gonna be contention every year, You don't be contentioned every year. Jeffrey Lurie and everyone else who is responsible for putting that team together, they're always going to be in contention because those that are at the top know what the hell they're goddamn doing. Oh, they're selling it for $50. The snow? Bidded 50 bucks. And what you know No man, I mean it's cool but it's no point. It's no point. Y'all gonna be back in the UFC Championship again. Depending on the color of jersey we

wore, you know I would change my chin strap. Sometimes I have a black chin strap, sometimes I have an orange chin strap and I would wear the orange shoe. You once remember everybody shoes had to match even back then everybody had the same color scheme. Yeah. I know. So I would I would I would take the fine. I would take the fine. And then it got to a point like year six or seven. They

will call down to David's folks. Remember David Folcher. Yeah. No fool. Yeah. I played against me 33 with the Bengals. Yeah, I played against him. Folcher was our, what do you call the guy that comes out and then... He was the, what they call... Uniform guy, uniform guy.

So listen, he would tell me during pre-game, he'd say, listen, Ocho, now you know. They looking at you. They looking at you, and I spoke ahead, you know, I take the towel, I take the stream, I cut the towel, it had a long stream hanging. He said, that's not supposed to have that. I take the towel, I take the streamer, I cut the towel and had a long streamer hanging. He said, that's not an issue. They gonna get you for that streamer.

I say, folks, may y'all might as well go ahead and find me now, because I'm from the way this towel. And these orange pieces, orange chest strap, I'm from the way that too. Man, it got to the point of year six or seven, the league office will call in the middle of the game and say, I will be removed from the game unless I take those shoes off,

unless I take that shirt off. They sure would. The right-hand side, I'm like, what the hell? Yep. This is what we got to? Oh yeah, they made me, Ocho, because I had patent leather shoes. So the shoes was like white, blue, and orange.

Oh, the rebound. Where you could only blue and orange where you could only have two colors You could only have two colors so they made me cover up one of the colors so you can cover I don't care what color it is, but you're gonna cover up one of them I'm like, I just want to know What is that? What is I say the shoe? I say everything matters Y'all make it seem like I got on a blue and orange uniform and I got on a red pair of cleats or something. I say, come on guys.

They's like, hey, sharp, I don't make the rules. I just work here. And I used to have a blue, I had a blue chair strap. So that rule was implemented after I left Ocho cause I had a blue chair strap basically my entire career. And if you go back and look, my chest strap, I never buttoned my full chest strap. It was never off.

I always kept mine hanging on the right one, hanging. Listen, I saw Prime do it, so I did it on off. That's why my helmet always flying off. I never buttoned the last one. Both of mine was hanging. They're like, button that chest strap. I was like, no, mm-mm. Something bad gonna happen strap. I was like, no, something bad gonna happen. I buttoned this chest strap, something bad gonna happen.

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