Club Shay Shay - Nightcap - Hour 2: Dak’s season-ending injury, Allen fighting for MVP, Ja’Marr Chase frustrated

Episode Date: February 4, 2025

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson recap the top stories from the NFL season including, Dallas Cowboys QB Dak Prescott’s season-ending injury, Buffalo Bills QB Josh Allen fighting for MVP, Ja’Marr Chase is frustrated with the Bengals and much more!03:48 - Who’s surprised by the Jets?11:47 - Bryce Young gets win over Giants14:49 - Dak Prescott’s season-ending surgery18:50 - Christian McCaffrey makes debut against the Bucs28:07 - Josh Allen has taken over as MVP front runner36:10 - Ja’Marr Chase is frustrated Bengals can’t close out games40:10 - A Look at the Kansas City Chiefs42:35 - Aaron Rodgers could leave the Jets soon55:20 - Daniel Jones officially waived by the Giants57:50 - Jets fire GM Joe Douglas(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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5G speed not available in all areas. Now you defied the coach, you demoted the offense coordinator. Well, the defense gave up 31. Well, you know, the offense is allowed to score more than 6. Absolutely. Because that's the one thing I love about football. It's not like when you play one on one, you play make it take it. I make a basket, I can take it back out again. Now in football, I score touch that I can't get off.

Yeah. You can score two. But they're not going to have, they ain't going to have nobody, ain't nobody, nobody else to fire. Ain't nobody else to blame. You fire Salah. See, the thing is, like, you got to be careful. ain't nobody else to blame. You fired Salah. See, the thing is, like, you gotta be careful. You gotta be careful when you do things for the wrong reasons.

See, a lot of this has to do with him being mad at the Packers for drafting Jordan Love. So I'm gonna go show you that I still got something left. Yeah. If you're not, Ocho, you heard me say it a lot. If you're not careful, you'll become the bad thing. You despise the most of the person. The guy that preceded him.

What did he do? He got mad because they took a quarterback. And where did he go first when he left Green Bay? That same thing. Same same thing. Same same thing. I mean. Devontae Adams had 13 targets. He called six passes for 31 yards.

Dan he probably thinking I could have stayed where I was did exactly this and kept I paid the state income tax in Jersey Or New York wherever is about 10% I paid nothing If the state income tax in New York, New Jersey got to be like 10% 10 who? Back. Okay. I catch I catch all the end of my career. I'll pay you back later What state I'll pay you back later. What's the. Jersey is 10.75, almost 11, because he stays in Jersey, so we don't have to do

New York, but he stays in Jersey. Nobody stays in the city. New York's 11. So he's playing 10 on that 10, 10.75. That's crazy. Well, you know how high that is? Yeah. How did you wrap who are, but here's the thing.

Oh, Joe, that's the thing. You just think, see what Peyton, because remember when Peyton got to Denver, they went 13 and three, they won like seven, eight games in a row, had the number one seed. Baltimore did come in and knock them off into the division around. Peyton finished second in the MVP voting. The next year, they go to the Super Bowl.

Peyton, they break all the records. Peyton, over 5,400 pass yards, NFL record. 55 touchdowns, NFL record. Go to the Super Bowl. The following year, Peyton throws 39 touchdowns. We see what Tom does his first year there. So we like, hey, they do it. Those are two natural born leaders.

Natural people gravitate towards them. You don't see Aaron as a leader, huh? I mean, just your own personal opinion outside of the dumpster. All I all I know what what what I've what I raised, what I've read with coaches. OK, I see what you mean. Not coach, excuse me. What I've read when the reports about the CEO Mark Murphy, Aaron, don't you be the problem. They don't consult with him. They didn't consult with him when they hired.

They didn't consult with him when they let somebody go. Damn. The mere fact of how he does thing when Mike Williams, oh, I was expecting Mike Williams to do this and he redlined and he, he was full of red lines. He got, bro, why would you do that? You can't, you can't throw you play under the bus. Why would you do that? Name the time you've ever heard Peyton Manny. Name the time you've ever heard Peyton or Tom Brady, because this is the guy

that he wants to be in the category with. When have Tom Brady ever thrown somebody under the bus? When is Peyton Manning ever thrown somebody? Or, they'll eat it. Yeah, every time. They'll eat it and then have the conversation with the guys like, look, you know, I was expecting you to be on the red line, right? Not run the end club.

Yeah. Every chance he get, what does he do? You saw him in green Bay. Yeah. Mm hmm. Hey, speaking of Mike, then on the red line, you know, they had that exact same play today, Mike, Mike had just had that exact same play today with the cover zero and the corner for sitting there.

Squad waiting on the slant. Wait, well, okay. You can't stand that far inside. You can't give a receive with that counter play release. Don't let him just run straight up the field. And he's standing inside, which made it even worse. It pushed him off the inside. Yeah, that was a good play. That was a good play by Mike.

These guys here, Ocho, these guys are too good. If you don't put hands on them. Oh, but remember when he was coming zero, so he was off, huh? Remember? He would say, he would say, he would say no. Yeah. Yes. But Ocho, you can't be that far inside.

He was tripping. Because if he, think about it, you already two yards inside. If he stem you inside, now you gonna be three to four. You give that guy so much area to just throw the ball. And rough throws is good a deep ball. Does anybody? I call it, like they call it a little moon ball.

And you, right down in your bucket. You ain't got no chance to recover. I don't care how fast you is. No, no, you can't come from that. And you get, he gave him a big market cause he got all this to drop it up. He can't, he ain't got to drop it down. What we call trying to,

you don't have to drop it down on Kimmy. I got a big old radius that I can throw it into. I can throw it here, I can throw it here. I can let you catch it over here because I'm not worried about the DB is so far behind. And then if I throw it over his shoulder, I can use my body, Ocho. He got to come through me to break the play up. Yeah. But I don't think it, I don't know. Maybe Jeff's fans are surprised, but I'm not. I, hell, I'm surprised, honestly. I thought, I thought things would have been

different. I was giving Aaron Rodgers his praise, honestly. I thought things would have been different. I was giving Aaron Rodgers his praise for what I felt he was gonna be able to do on the field. I didn't really care about the stuff he was doing off of it. Do whatever the hell you want to off of it, but I'm thinking- He be, he have. I'm expecting him to look like,

maybe not the Aaron Rodgers of the bold, just give me 50% of that. Give me 50, 60% of the old Aaron Rodgers and I thought you know the Jets they gonna be on one they gonna be fine well he talking about he talking about cayenne water and who's that how that work out for him today cayenne yeah cayenne water cayenne pepper water and lemon oh it's the fountain of youth even had he even kicker that drilled a field go, oh yeah, this thing is working.

Bro, that stuff don't work. Look, I understand all that cleanse and you go to these holistic places and they give you all that stuff. I get it. I ain't never heard no cayenne. I know about the porous cayenne. Cayenne, cayenne pepper, they put cayenne pepper

and they put water, lemon. Ian, Kayan pepper, they put Kayan pepper and it put water lemon. I mean, what, what, what, what, what was he had? It's about, it's the, I've discovered a thousand of you. Bro, clearly you don't watch yourself play cause they nothing useful about you. Ain't nothing. I'm not breaking any new chat. Do y'all think there's anything useful about Aaron Rodgers play? Does he Kayan pepper play. Does he,

Cuyah and Pepper Warder, does he move like he once did? Absolutely not. Bryce Young got the job during in Germany, Ocho gets the Giants. Giants currently hold the number one pick in the NFL draft. Ocho, should the Giants draft Shador? Yeah, I tweeted that earlier. Prime ain't gonna let that happen.

I tweeted that earlier today. Prime ain't gonna let that happen. I'll tweet you that earlier today. Brian ain't gonna let that happen. You don't think so? Nope. Have the Giants ever drafted a black quarterback before? Hell no, hell no. Hell no. Hey, the way you said it, that was funny. Bryce Young, 15 to 25, 126 a touchdown.

Cuba Hubba had an outstanding day, 28 rushes, a buck 53 and a touchdown. They ran the ball 32 times for a buck 88. Daniel Jones was 22 of 37, 190 and two interceptions. But it was Tracy that fumbled in overtime that led to the game winning field goal by the Carolina Panthers. Yeah. Oh yeah.

Well, oh yeah. And they talking about, uh, you know, they're going to evaluate the quarterback position for evaluate what? Yeah. There's somebody going to evaluate it.? Yeah, they're gonna evaluate it. They're open to making changes at the quarterback. It's too late now. Y'all might as well go and stick with Daniel Jones.

You know he's saying that to save his job, huh? He can't save it. He can't save it? It's over. Wait, hey, you might as well make a change. Who's the backup, Tyrod? No, Tyrod, Tyrod again, baby. Yeah, yeah,. Wait I got the wrong New York team I'm tripping. No Ojo it's you might as well just you know what you got. My well pulling.

Pulling? My well pulling? Hey you talking about you evaluating them? You want to give yourself a chance to win? A chance to do. I mean, who's the bad, who's the backup in New York anyway? Who's the back of quarterback? If somebody known to drew lock, drew law. Okay. Yeah. Okay.

Yeah. I mean, look, they gamble. Hey, hey, GM, how that looking now? Guys, you can run the ball fairly well. I mean, Porter Jr. runs the ball really well, single tier. It's just your quarterback. No team that's good enough to overcome poor quarterback play. Not for, not, now you might want to game with two cause we saw tonight Jerry golf turned the ball over

five times and his team came back. But you all, but you. But the teams don't have that kind of high power octane offense either. Nope. No, they don't. The Giants currently hold the number one pick. Nope. No, they don't. The Giants currently hold the number one pick. I stay in that position.

But they have a new coach actually. Dak Crestcott is planning to undergo season-ending stay on partially torn hamstring, ending the opinion of one final specialist. Schefter added that Dak will meet with the specialist in New York, but the Cowboys doctor already believed he needs surgery that would sideline him for months. The Cowboys did not place Dak on injury reserve today.

Training away, hold on. Training away a fourth round pick four days before it comes out that your quarterback, hold on. That does make it even more egregious because you knew Dak was injured and you traded for. But anyway, I don't care that Mingo has two years left on his deal. Completely insane price. If you know the season is probably over.

That's what Dave Hellman. Oh, hey, hey, Jerry, he was going to get a receiver. He said you say you were going to get a receiver. He said, you say he was going to get a receiver. He went and got one. He went and got one. Listen, we're gonna see tomorrow. We're gonna see tomorrow. I hope that has,

I hope that he heals fast. I hope he heals fast, you know, scrap. It's over, it's over. I know, I know. I'm just saying I hope he heals fast. I'm definitely not. Yeah, he can heal slow. I'm not talking about the comeback. I mean this season, I mean just in general. Wanting to heal fast so he can get back in. Not get back out there on the field, but just get back into a groove of working yourself back in the shape and being able to throw the ball.

That's one thing you don't play with soft tissue injuries. Hey, that groin, that groin, that hamstring, the kidneys area, your calves. Boy, I don't miss that remote guy. You see, you see what? Hamstring, Zion's gonna miss time with a hamstring. Kevin and Rand's gonna miss time with a cow. They know.

Because you're definitely you play with your lower body. Yeah. Where you going? No, they grab it. You mean. That's crazy. Yeah. Well, hopefully, like you said, you gets the final prognosis. He gets done what he needs to

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be glad you did. Hope you could join us for the postseason run. I was going to say, uh, Tristan McCaffrey will make his debut this weekend against the Bucks. All the 49ers about to get back on track. Ocho, they got the Bucks at Tampa. They got Seattle at home, at Green Bay, at Buffalo, Chicago at home, Rams at home, at Miami, Detroit at home on a Monday night, and Flex Gang, 2BD, against Arizona, Week 18. Do you think they make, do you think they go on a run?

Absolutely, absolutely. I think they would have went on a run even if CMC didn't come back. I think they would have gone on a run. But just adding him back to that offense and the dynamic that he brings in the passer game and running game is is tremendous. It makes it that much more difficult for you to defend them, you know, defensively. You know, I know Brent Iuka is out. I think Joanne Jennings is coming back. I could be wrong if I'm not mistaken. Debo's back. Kills are still there.

I don't know, you ask CMC, that makes him that much more dangerous. Mike Shanahan with CMC back, the book opens up even more exponentially. That's a big word for me. I can't spell it, but it's a big word for me. opens up even more exponentially. That's a big word for me. I can't spell it, but it's a big word for me. Saquon was drug tested after reverse. Hard number to name.

Ochoa, explain why the NFL does this to people at home. When something spectacular guy has, you know, three touchdown catches or 200 yards or 180 yards rush and the guy has three, four sacks, all of a sudden, randomly he comes up on a drug test. Anytime you have a game like that, Jamar Chase, Jamar Chase, please expect the drug test in your locker tomorrow or Monday morning,

whatever day it is. Normally when you have a performance like that, a performance that doesn't happen as frequent or as often, they don't drug test you. I'm not sure what they're what they're thinking They're going to catch. I think they just have a Insight well this doesn't happen as often as it should so that the fact that it happened today and in this game and you've had numbers that are kind of Extraordinary we're gonna test you and see if you took something that resulted in help me you perform the way you did today

It's weird. I never forget. I got drug tested a few times one that I can remember Clear as day was performance after we played the San Diego Chargers I never forget we played the San Diego Chargers. I think I had a 260 yard day 260 yard day to touchdown to touchdown. Shane broke your record tonight. I think he had, what'd he had, 264 tonight? He broke my record last year, his rookie year. Remember, yeah, he had 266. Oh yeah. 266, he broke it last year.

He had 264 tonight. If they have multiple games like that, it's unreal, unreal. And you have to think today, today's game is a lot different than it was when we were playing, you know? It was literally, we were, we were, we were the few who run first. Now, they throw the goddamn ball all over the place. You can't play defense, you can't touch nobody. So the game is, the game is kind of, kind of different now,

whereas almost damn near like 707, with helmets and pads on. But dude, that mother f***ing Chase, man, shh. But that motherf***er, that guy boy is special. Yeah. Ocho, one of the NFL players is an heir to a $500 million potato empire. St. Center, Carl Mcgregor, is in his eighth NFL season, and his family company is the biggest potato empire. St. Center, Carl McGregor is his eighth NFL season and his family company is the biggest potato producer in America.

Their main potato supplier of McDonald's, Raising Canes, Wendy's and Frito-Lake chips. And when Carl and McGregor was drafted by the Broncos in 2016, some of his teammates were curious why he was playing football when he can make far more money back on farming. His response, I wanted to make a name for myself and show that my hard work earned myself something and I wasn't riding the coattails of everybody. But whatever his NFL career ends, the 31L said he would go back to RD, what is office,

his family's company, back to research, I guess, research and develop. Though he said he'll work his way up from the bottom, just like everybody else. And earn his way up just like he did in his football career. So the next time you're snacking on McDonald fries, remember those potatoes are likely coming from Conor McGovern's family farm. That's dope. That's dope. And I like that.

Most of the time when you have success or a kid is born into wealth, they don't have that same drive and that work that it takes to want to work and actually put the work in to earn and see what it's like to have the responsibilities and what it takes to earn that kind of money to be able to support yourself. So I'm not sure if his parents raised him that way, but the fact that he is the way he is is commendable. And then not only for the business to already be successful, but to have an NFL career and say, I'm going to make good money in NFL. And then when I do retire, I'm going to start from the bottom of the business

and work my way back up to the top. Ain't too many people built like that. Huh? Yeah, but he should, because I'm sure he doesn't know the business because he was like playing football, college football, NFL football, like the people that's already there. Although a lot of times, yeah you're right Ocho, a lot of times family member, hey my family company, I want to start at a B.B. level as opposed to an entry level, learn the ropes and work your way up. That's why

I've always been impressed by Peyton Manning. His dad made lots of money. Eli made lots of money. And they gonna be number one draft picks overall and make careers for themselves. You have to commend that. When your dad is somebody, your mom, your family is somebody and you say, yeah, that's plenty good, but I want my own name.

And that's what people used to tell me all the time. Man, your brother got money, that's his money. My brother don't want to be taking care of no grown ass man. He got a wife and kid. So I want to earn my own. I want to do my own thing. I appreciate everything that my brother gave me.

He gave me just enough to make me desire to get more, but on my own. I saw the thing that he had and I, and he knew, he knew I wanted to be like him. Hey, bro, check this out, look what I got. Damn. Inspiring, ain't it? Man, and I went and got everything

with the exception, with the exception, he had a, I don't know if you remember this old Joe But in the eighties they came out with a BMW called the m3 it had a it had a spoiler on the back and everything With the exception of that and he had a typhoon. Yeah, every other car that my brother had I got it You got you one. He got a Ferrari. I got a Ferrari. He got a big bed I got a big bed whatever car he had I got Because that's what got a big Benz. I got a big Benz. Whatever car he had, I got it. Because that's what I saw. That's what drove, that's what motivated me.

And for Conor McGriff, a governed family to be who they are. And he said, no, yeah, that's good, fine. But I want my own name. That's life. And no matter what happens, I've had a NFL career that's spanned in eight years. Maybe it goes to nine, 10, who knows?

But when my career is over, yeah, I'm still young. Oh, Joe, think about it. He only be 30. Let's just say for the sake of our, his career goals, another two years, he'd be 33 years of age. Yeah. He can, I mean, he's made good money. He can retire if he wants to be saying, nah, we're going to bet the family

business and we're going to expand. So I, I bet I love that. I love, I love, I love when kids come from wealthy families or well off families and don't feel entitled. I love that. No matter what you know, what you want to say, cause a lot of times they have access. Bronnie had access.

LeBron made sure he had the best trainer. He had the best nutritionist. He had the best coaches. He had the best of everything. But the kid says, I want to make it on my own. Now he's never going to be able to outrun his dad's shadow. His dad is LeBron. It's just like Jordan's kids.

They're never going to be able to outrun the door's dad's shadow. But just because that's my dad, I shouldn't want for myself. So you mean to tell me I can't, I can't want to accomplish something. Just my last name is supposed to get it. I, so I commend the kid. I commend him. I love the opportunity.

Look, he's supposed to, you're supposed to give them an opportunity. All this old nepotism and nip your ass out my face. But like I said, I love when kids want to be something on their own, you know what I'm saying? Don't tell, but I can't do anything. I can't help who my parents are, what I was born into, but I have a desire to be known more by more than that.

I did that on my own. Yeah, my best, my brother, but Sterling ain't catch no passes at Savannah State. He ain't catch no passes for the Broncos or the Ravens. So no matter what's up and y'all know this, you know this. NFL want to know who can help. Can you help? Can you help me win games? That's all to come down to.

Because Sterling ain't playing over here. He played on the green bay. He up in green bay win games. So kudos to you, Conor McGovern. Josh Allen has officially overtaken Lamar as the MVP front runner. Josh Allen is now a plus 150. Lamar Jackson is a plus 200. Jared Goff is a plus 600. Jalen Hurts is fourth with plus 1200. Patrick Mahomes is plus 1300.

And Kyle LeMurray is plus 1500. In the regular season, Josh Allen has passed for 2,543 yards, which is 7th. 18 touchdowns, which is 6th. Five interceptions, he's tied for 5th. I mean, he's tied for 57th, which is a good thing. And his QBR of 72.6 puts him in 4th. Lamar, he's second in passing yards, 2,876. He's second in touchdowns, 25.

He's tied for 47 with three interceptions. He's number two in QBR, 75.1. Hey, you know what's funny? Everything, you just ran it down. Yes, sir. Golf, probably golf and Josh Allen, obviously being the back and forth, it's gonna change. change because Lamar Lamar is not gonna play another bad game like he did against the Steelers He's gonna come out and he's going to be the front runner again and then go out

Oh, he's gonna put on an unbelievable performance I'm not sure who I'm not sure what their schedule is or who they're playing next, but the other teams aren't used to do It's not a divisional game. It's not going to be a divisional game They're not going to have the structured defense to be able to contain him. The way the Steelers do. The Steelers are built to be able to stop a player like himself because they're used to seeing him and understanding that team's tendencies offensively. So he's going to come out, he's going to have one hell of a day, do some crazy

stuff on the ground, do some crazy stuff in the air, and he's going to be back at the number one spot to an AVP. I guarantee you. Guaranteed. Yeah, I mean look, I mean he has another game against the Steelers. Steelers have given them problems. One and four. He has one and four against the Steelers. He has one and four against the Steelers. Yeah, he has another game, but this game is at home against the Steelers.

Uh, what, what, what, what do they have? They got the Steelers. I think they got another game against Cleveland. Yeah. At Chargers this week. He's at the Chargers this week. Eagles at home. At Giants. Home versus the Steelers, at Texans, home versus the Brown. So it ain't like you got some cupcakes on the schedule now.

Again, every team you just name don't have the personnel like the Steelers do to be able to stop what he's able to do and what he does well. What about the personnel are going up against his defense? What about the Eagles offense against that defense? What about the Texans offense against that defense? Hey, can I tell you something? See? You do know your Raven's team is dead last in the secondary when it comes against the pass. Hey, I've been trying to see when I tell people that they say when you try and you try and I know I'm if you see that when people tell me, oh, you could tell Shannon

didn't watch the game. You watching it, but you don't know what the hell you looking for. Right. You like a blind dog in a meat house. You can't tell me fronts. You can't tell me coverages. You can't tell me formations. You can't tell me anything. All you watching for is touchdowns and sacks. I'm watching to understand why they have success. So while you tell me I'm not watching it, you watching it, but you don't know what the hell you looking at. It's like you watching a foreign film

and they got something, unless they give you subtitles, you don't know what the hell you looking at. I've been telling them, but they gave me excuses. Wait till this guy comes back. Wait till that guy comes back. Well, I saw you guys in there when you had those guys and your defense was still bad in past defense. Much better to stop at the run. That second level. At some point in time fans will have to understand everybody is not a hater.

Sometimes people are just trying to give you information. Our job is sometimes to be entertaining, is to job is sometimes to be entertaining, is to be informative, to be educational. Okay, yes. I say a lot of things in a joking manner, but I'm actually giving you factual information if you just listen to it, but you don't want to because you wanna paint this narrative

that oh, Shannon is a hater. Well, this is what Shannon said. When it comes back, what'd I tell you? Then you talk about, oh, oh, I is a hater. But listen to what Shannon said. When it come back, what I tell you? Then you talk about, oh, oh, I could captain obvious. Well, you didn't say it. Yeah. But people don't just don't wanna get no credit. Boy, people don't wanna get no credit.

Because if I didn't, if I didn't say it, why didn't you say that before? I said it when I knew that. No, you didn't. Cause I take it to the black, I take it to the board and say, oh, draw me a cover six. Draw me cover seven. Give me fives all.

Okay, give me this formation. Give me this protection. I want you to redirect. What you mean by that? No, you know you watching the games. You should know. I don't think the casual fan can do that. Hell no, they can't but they just want to jump on your timeline and try to try to what he ain't watching the game

I am watching the game. I also know that when you throw the ball more than you're running ever Raven. Yeah, you lose I mean, that's what I do. That's a right there I wonder said put Derek Henry in the eye. Ain't nobody else say that. I said it from the joke. I said he's not his own read back because he's a long sprouter and you don't get, you need, he needs time to be able to redirect.

When you put him that close to the line, he's such a long sprouter, he can't read the back of his feet. Barry Sanders, a short sprouter can do it. He's perfect. That's perfect for him. But Derrick Henry needs to be able to change direction. He needs to be able to check his feet and cut back, get back downhill. That's why you put his heels at eight, you toss it to him, you hand it to him, and boom. Now, whoever drew up that damn play, that they tossed that ball to Derrick Henry, and they let TJ Watt come in there and blow his ass up. They should have put him back there and run him back

and let the same thing happen. Don't block TJ Watt and let TJ Watt knock his ass in. The right tackle should have known, but I'm not sure what the blocking assignment was, but why would you let TJ Watt run Scott free with the pitch, even though the pitch is going the opposite way, still. Every time, he can get there every time.

Yes, I just like I'm like, who who thought that was a good idea? Hey, we're going to run this tall play week, but we go unblocked T.J. Why? OK, and you see what happened? They got digging and I'm like, that's why I stopped playing running back because I got tired of my bad shot. Well, it ain't your bad. I, they got digging. And I'm like, that's why I stopped playing running back. Cause I got tired of my bad shot. Well, it ain't your bad. I waited out of the field. I ain't got to worry about my bad.

I ain't got to worry about my bad on show. I got tired of you. Hey, my bad. That's me. That's on me. Bro. Right. Dude, that got me looking at my ear hole, but you talk about your bad.

What'd that do? Hey, hey, speaking of that, think about how bad it is for quarterbacks when the O-liners playing bad. When they can't block and the quarterback continues to get sacked over and over and over and you can't fustle them, then you have to keep your mannerisms and your facial expressions has to be on point. You do. No matter how many times you get hit in the game. Imagine. I want to. Yeah. Oh Joe, let me ask you a question. When the Cowboys fell behind by 10, 13 points with no threat of the running game, what you think the Texans thinking?

They ain't playing for no draw. They're not playing for no run. They're beating their ears back. You everybody in the state know you're not gonna run it and now you made it very it's very I don't care who your offensive lineman are you let them jokers know that every single down you gonna throw it. Yeah Make no sense Jamar chase is angry with the team's inability to close that game. Ask how do you fix it? He said as that as the coaches don't ask me. I just football I don't call play whoa whoa whoa whoa who said Chase oh a situation where they had a first they have they ended up getting the first

down right but Joe missed Jamar for a touchdown guys pressed the inside release and the guys collided. Yep. Yeah. He went straight up the field, and when he threw it, he was jumping up and down. Joe didn't see it. I tweeted it. I saw it.

They didn't replay it, but I saw it. I saw it. Yeah. I mean, sometimes, you know, your quarterback won't always see everything. He won't know what's going to happen happen in the fact that the guys collided That means the ball will even come no anyway, because you know, you know you want to read and you know No on that touchdown it out. Oh Joe Just look my mind. Oh Joe

Which one on the long touchdown to T Higgins? Yes, I got in bracketed Why if the safety is inside, why is the corner trying to jump the sluggo? Stay on the uphill shoulder. Oh, oh, he's trying to get that pic, huh? He trying to get that pic. Got the safety there.

He's trying to get that pic, huh? Oh, somebody said they replayed it. I didn't see it. But I tweeted immediately and I know I was like, wrong, y'all got to play off. You can't be that close when you like that because what's going to happen when he pushes up the field and one guy goes and hey, y'all going to collide.

And sure enough, but that's just frustrating. He knows they're running out of games and there are no two win games on the schedule. Which means what I mean when people say two win game, a game in which you win and you get two victories for it. There aren't any of those on the schedule. So he knows this was a game, this could have started something really, really,

really, really good. And the thing is, I'll tell you, something really, really, really, really good. That look and the thing is, until you know, you don't want to go into the Bible with a loss, that hurt old joke. That ruin your whole body. I don't care what anybody say. They lying. If they say it, it does. It's going to sting.

It's going to sting. And then you know what it does too. Also, it put that much pressure on you. It put that much more pressure on you on the game coming up. We got to steal it, right? Yeah, but y'all but y'all gotta fire me this week and T Higgins T Higgins was buskering with a banger saying we can't finish your effing game Mm-hmm, then boys hot, but I'm holding boys hot but what we need to do it ain't even about finishing the game We need to start it money, but it's a we didn't start where we had a new to finish it And we missed two vehicles miss. Oh, Joe you miss back to back field goals now and the same way you hooked it left

Damn, bro. You didn't make no adjustment Hey, listen the most the most difficult one of the most difficult positions on the field is kicker. It is kicker, you know. One slight adjustment, one slight mistake, a swing of the leg, you knocking your head down at the ball, you know, allowing your foot to sway a little further left than it should, it changes the trajectory of the ball. So as a kicker myself, I understand the difficulties that comes when it comes kicking the ball.

Right. So McPherson, all you got to do, you go back to your basics. Same thing with Justin Tucker. You go back to your basics, go back to your basic fundamentals when, when it comes to kicking the ball and start all the way over, start all the way over and be yourself back. Right, right. I'm going to kick himself in the a**.

Cause boy Chase about to hit them over the head. Oh yeah, big time. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no of great two touchdowns, which is the most yards of separation the chief's receiving a touchdown in the past two seasons. He was wide open. Needless to say, after weeks of carrying the office, Steve's back nose crew hit a November law for consecutive week. KC defense allowed 325 plus yards. We know what's going to happen. Oh Joe, I'm, look, I've been, I've been a part of a historic defense.

But there are games that if we didn't play our absolute best offensively, we would have lost. That's what Kansas City had to do today. Turnovers, it probably would have cost me, it probably would have lost the game. Mahomes with 27 to 37, 269, three touchdowns. Got sacked five times though. Noah Gray, four catches, 269, three touchdowns. Got sacked five times though. Noah Gray, four catches, 66 yards, two touchdowns. Travis Kelsey like, man, y'all over here doubling

and tripling me and he eatin' every week. He get a touchdown, he had two last, what, he had two today, he had one last, I figure he had like two last week. He got about five or six touchdowns. Hey, that's the calcium crack. You're not letting you beat me. I'm not. I'm not.

But the offensive line man, man, it seems like I don't know. Maybe maybe it's my television, but it seems like every time a home drop back, he is for his life. He is. Let's not disrespect, but the tackle play is very bad. The tackle play is very bad. The tackle play is very bad. I tell you what, if the 49ers let a dub go, Trent, treat you dub, Kansas City better back the brain.

He's gonna back it up. Even at his age, he's still one of the best. He might still him. I mean, cause they tried, they tried, they tried to get him in for agency and then in Kansas City, you know, he's familiar, you know, he's familiar with Kyle. He played for Mike. So he's familiar with that situation. But I think, I think Ocho with an opportunity, he wants an opportunity. He wants to win. He wants to win.

He wants to win. He wants to win. He wants to win. He wants to win. He wants to win. He wants to win. He wants to win. He wants to win he's familiar with Kyle. He played for Mike, so he's familiar with that situation. But I think Ocho with an opportunity, he wants an opportunity, he wants to win.

He wants to win that Super Bowl. And Kansas City, as long as you got that quarterback and you got that opportunity. I think they're better positioned than the 49ers. That's just me personally, I could be wrong. But can you imagine him and Lev Tackle protecting that blind side? The Jets could reportedly release Aaron Rodgers in season.

Rodgers wants to play in 2025. Whoa, what? But not with the Jets. Time out, time out, man. Time out, time out. Hold on, let me get my flag. Let me get my flag. Is a flag on the play?

Let me get the flag. All right. I got my flag. I know it, I know it's white, but we going to pretend it's yellow. I just, I just, I just do it. I just give it up. Hold on. Okay. Okay.

Where's the call? You know, it's funny when it comes to a quarterback like this, with a resume like this, even though the NFL is all about what have you done for me lately, when Aaron Rogers said, you know what, as desperate as teams are to have a quarterback, I wouldn't be surprised if he gets the opportunity after what he just said. If they do release him, if the depths do release him and start over, as far as searching for a quarterback, Aaron Rogers will get a job simply because of what he's done in the past. They gonna hold on to that. They gonna hold on to the, for how many how many times MVP? Four? If not like four?

Sheesh. Four. He's won a Super Bowl? Oh, he gonna get another chance. Diana Rossini. Diana Rossini. Right. When she talks about the jets, let's listen to what she has to say. I'm told Johnson has lost confidence in Rogers ability to lead the team to the playoffs for the first time in 14 years, a drought that now stands as the longest in major North American professional sports league. There are some on the team who believe everyone is simply tip-toeing around the fact Rogers isn't the same player anymore.

Some around the league say they won't be surprised if Rogers is cut in the season. As far as Rogers, his relationship with the owner has been strained for months. That's not a secret in the building or the locker room. At this point, after conversations with sources with the team and around the league, my understanding is Roger's stand still wants to play

in 2025, just not with the Jets. I like it, but I don't like it. I like it, but I don't like it, because I want to break down the other 31 teams. There are many teams that don't even need a quarterback. What teams can Aaron Rodgers go to make a difference where you couldn't make a difference with you in New York. They gave you the players you wanted.

They gave you everything. They gave me everything. You wanted Alizard. You got Bruce Hall. I mean, come on now. What we call. Remember Ocho last year, remember last year they got a, what you call it? A car for it.

And then, and if he is to go to a team, it has to be a team where he doesn't have to do much because his supporting cast can hold him up. He can't go to a team that has less talent and make them better. He needs somebody to uplift him for the longest time he could uplift other, play other, his teammates. Time to change. He can no longer do that. Time to change. So there's nowhere for him to go, huh?

There's nowhere for him to go. Like if you think about it, there's nowhere for him to go. Where are you going? Tell me so we both know. I think they say, Aaron, Aaron, what? But you better focus and lock in. You better focus and lock in, because you're going to be on the outside looking in in a minute.

Bro, football best stopped being important to Aaron Rodgers. Y'all can feel what y'all want to say. Aaron Rodgers, Ben, football Ben stopped being important to Aaron Rodgers. Y'all can feel what y'all wanna say. Aaron Rodgers, Ben, and football was the last. Football gave him the ability to have the cachet to talk about all the other stuff that he carried to talk about. Y'all know this. Y'all see it.

Y'all see the man demeanor. Y'all see his behavior. Y'all saw the way he conducted himself. Football Ben stopped being important to Aaron Rodgers. He's one of the few. You know what? Aaron Rodgers has what most don't, what most, mostly all quarterbacks do. He has privilege and he's one of the few. Now that he has that privilege, he abuses that privilege and the power that he has

because of what he's done in the NFL. He's one of the few that does it. You know? Yeah. Nobody else would be able to get away with some of those things. Can you imagine you, no forget you, because you follow the rules. Can you imagine you, forget you, because you follow the rules. Let's say me, who bent the rules and always told the line and never crossed it. Can you imagine if I say, you know what?

I'm not going to Minicab, I'm going on a retreat because I already had some plans. What? Can you imagine? Yeah, I can imagine. Yeah, I can imagine. They defined your culture. What are you talking about? That's what happened. Hey, all I know is that Antonio Brown didn't go to a team meeting and they cut it.

They had a meeting. It had a walk through in the ballroom. He didn't show up and they couldn't play. They don't play certain people are. But see, y'all, y'all, y'all get upset with me when I, when I, when I tell the truth. See, my thing is I don't know why anybody would question because y'all see, I call it right down the middle. It doesn't matter if you're Aaron Rodgers, you're Tom Brady, Peyton Manning,

Lamar Jackson, or Patrick Mahomes. If I see it, I'm just gonna be honest. I've been telling you guys for the longest, Aaron Rodgers is an arrogant, condescending, flippid. He blames everyone. He takes no responsibility for himself. He's been that. He's always been that.

But he won MVP's, so everybody overlooked it. Now he can no longer be an MVP. Everybody said what I've been saying for years. Yeah, but when you had that kind of resume like Aaron Rodgers, when you had that kind of, when you had that kind of resume, like Aaron Rodgers, when you had that kind of success for so long, you know, when you're a franchise quarterback like that, and when you're a Superbowl champion, you were extended a different type of grace, especially, especially

at the quarterback. Yes, for sure. That's for sure. Yes, absolutely. Absolutely. Yes, sir. But I, Ocho, one of the things, you know what I'm saying?

Boy, if you're not careful, you will become the very thing you despise the most in a person. He despised the way Brett Favre treated it. Did he not turn around and become the very thing he despised the most? Yeah, yeah. He what?

Oh, have mercy. So y'all don't wanna listen to me. Oh, I'm talking like you see I don't know what you talk about So y'all say I'll talk a lot y'all don't really be saying I don't know what I'm talking about because when it comes to fruition the first thing you saw captain obvious Well, why did you say it? If it was so obvious you could have said it Yeah, look I got out of there he didn't want to come to mini camps. He wanted everything to be his way.

Isn't that what Brett Farb, isn't that why they got Brett Farb as a fellow there? Now, where did Brett Farb go when he left Green Bay? Tell the people at home, Ocho. The New York Jets. Ocho, tell the people how long did Brett Farb stay in New York? Hey, hold on, hold on. Where'd he go next?

So are we saying that Aaron Rodgers is probably gonna beat him in Minnesota? I don't know. They just, they on, hold on. Where'd he go next? Where'd he go next? So are we saying that Aaron Rodgers is probably going to beat him in Minnesota? I don't know. I don't know. And they just, they got JJ McCarthy. No, McCarthy, they got JJ McCarthy. Yeah. No.

And he's already missed a year. You're not going to send him back another year. No. And I'm drafted a quarterback. I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not. What is Aaron Rodgers going to do? At most he plays a year and you think I'm going to pass on a quarterback for a year. Are we sure he can

elevate my team? The Jess thought he could. How'd that work out for them? They gave up draft capital and they're worse off than they were when they had rock, when they had a Zach Wilson, when they had Sam Darnall, when they have whomever else they had at quarterback. Bruh, you're not getting a Tom Brady ending. Wait, what if he changed his mindset? What if he changed his approach to the game? Or it's too late? It's too late? Can't. He...

Ocho, how you do something for 20 years and you won MDP and you won a Super Bowl, you change your mindset. Tom Brady couldn't change his mindset if he could. Because he still had that underdog mentality. All he saw himself, as accomplished as he was, was a sixth round draft pick that nobody wanted until the sixth round. That's all he ever saw himself. He always felt I gotta go in and prove that I can make the I gotta make the team. Even though after one Super Bowl, two Super Bowls, three Super Bowls, MVP, MVP, MVP, Super Bowl, Super Bowl, Super Bowl, Super Bowl. I've got to prove it. Peyton Manning every year, prove it, prove it, prove it. It's always been

about him. Damn. He's always been condescending. He's always been, prove it. It's always been about him. Damn. He's always been condescending. He's always been flippient. He's always been arrogant. He's always been aloof. You're overlooked because he's winning MVP. Now, he's the same player. You don't change when you lose.

You don't change. See, losing doesn't change who you are. It reveals who you are. That's what losing does. It reveals your, it don't build character. It reveals it. It's like, it's like, it's like anger. Just like anger and just like someone, someone that drinks.

Finally, you finally get to see some sellers when they're angry. They tell you how they really. Yes. People are like, oh, he got money. He changed. No, money doesn't change you. It makes you more of what you already are. You don't get money and become generous.

You don't. That's always in you. You don't get money and become a jerk. You've always been a jerk, but you are a mother jerk because you didn't have the power and the money to be an asshole. So that's what money will allow you to do. People that have money and that are nice and respectful, they've always been that way. I guarantee you, you go look at anybody and they'll tell you, I don't need to call no name, but when they got money, they been that way.

But if we're on the same level, how can I be a real jerk when we're on the same level? Yeah. But let me get a little advantage over you. Hey listen money money money does some strange things to people. It does it does strain it's just it does some strange strange it's it's hard to remain yourself you know you get it but if you are able to control it and don't allow it to control you, it's a beautiful thing.

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Daniel Jones. Damn. What? That escalated quickly, old joke. Daniel Jones has officially been waved by the Giants. Saquon Barkley is rooting for a fresh start for Jones. Jones Witt wants to go to a team, go to a playoff team. Huh? Say that again? Wait, read that for me again. Read that for me again real slow. Read it for me again. What's that?

What I'm gonna do, what I'm gonna do, I'm gonna play, I'm gonna press rewind, and then I'm gonna hit play. Daniel Jones wants to go to a play. Daniel Jones wants to go to a play. Daniel Jones wants to go to a playoff. Oh, let me, let me, let me, let me get this straight. So Daniel Jones wants to go to a playoff team.

He not, he wants to go to a playoff team where they already have a quarterback in, in place, but I'm assuming he wants to go to a playoff team. So we know the field likes to win and maybe be the backup. I'm assuming that's that. what do you mean by saying that? I don't think he means to actually start or contend or compete to be the starting quarterback for a team that always has a start or starting quarterback. Right. According to Adam Schepter, Jones is expected to have multiple options, but

likely will prefer to finish this season on a playoff contending team, where he would be involved in big games rather than going to a Mandarin quarterback needed team, not remotely in playoff contention. But if they got, if they're going to, if you go into a team, you're not, I mean, I think that has to be what he means. But he's already been to the playoffs. Real quick, I don't mean to break it down. I'm not sure how good you are with being able to name all the quarterbacks in the league, but think about all the teams that are playoff or in playoff contention

or even in the hunt, even in the hunt, huh? I mean, how many teams actually need the quarterback? And the one that, that, that, that, yeah, that's the whole point. So I think he just wants to experience knowing what it feels like to win and to be, you know, be competing in the playoffs or being in contention in general. It has to be what he means. But here's my thing, Ocho. When I look at it, maybe he needs to go somewhere with a different culture.

Because sometimes it is culture. You get, you get caught up, Ocho. Um, um, the way they coach and the way they do things, and maybe that's not conducive for you. You get into a new situation, they practice different, they meet different, the coaches coach you different, they talk to you different. I don't know, I look, it didn't, when I heard it,

I did, I'm like, oh, you wanna go to them. I can see, Ocho, you're a wide receiver. You're a running back, you're a defensive player. Okay, I get that, because there's an opportunity, but there's only one, because all the other positions, you can have multiple positions at the same time on the field. But when you're a quarterback, you can only have one.

So, and I'm looking at it, I'm like, well, so, go into a team that's in playoff consideration or contention, what are you going to do? Oh my goodness. I mean, it, it, it has to make sense. The only thing that makes sense is based on what he's saying. He wants to be somewhere where maybe he's not going to be the starter. We know he's not going to be a starter, but I want to be somewhere where I can be

on a team, where I can be a backup if need be, I can help, but I would like to know what it feels like to be contending or be challenging for a playoff spot with that team. That, that, that, that, uh, hello, that got to be it, obviously. Yeah. So you wind that leg and press play again. The GSR certified disaster and they got messier today. The day began with the team fire and general manager, Joe Douglas, which was not exactly surprised. Douglass was 30 and 64 during the Jets tenure and never sniffed the playoffs.

The juicy of all was Woody Johnson wanted to bench Aaron Rogers just four weeks into the season in favor of Tyrod Taylor. The coaches present in the meeting were stunned according to our report. Uh, and rightfully so Johnson backed off, but five Robert Sala a week later, five Robert Sala demoted, uh, Nathaniel Hattie. Right now I asked you who was next. See green Bay guys smart grievance. And hell y'all, you have to get me up out of here.

Matt LaFleur and Brian Goudikis and Mark Murphrey. Freddie Johnson won the bench Aaron Rollins at week four for Tyra Taylor, right? So the elephant in the room who always been the problem. So you're doing all this firing where you're not getting, putting the right person in the place that needs to be. Well, how you gonna, you gonna bet you, I ain't never seen nobody bench a quarterback that make that kind of money either. He would have, yeah.

So the Woody Johnson, he would have. So now Joe Douglas gone. So what? But you met Woody. You do realize they use your jet to go fly to see Aaron Rodgers. You do realize you signed off on all this. So where's your comfortable with your idiot bits? Also, they're expecting to get the Aaron Rodgers to bowl.

They're expecting to get the Aaron Rodgers. They got an old Aaron Rodgers. Bro, everybody ain't gonna be. So you thought they was gonna turn right around after Tom Brady did what he did. You thought so soon right after that another guy was going to do that. What allowed Brady to play as long as he did and as well as he had no major injury after he suffered that ACL injury. That was in 2008. So up until that he had no injuries. He had no hamstring. He had no injuries that really caused him to miss time.

He had no hamstring. He had no injuries. Yeah, that really caused him to miss time Aaron Rodgers was coming off one of the most serious injury a player in sports can suffer right the Achilles injury Plus he's born. I don't I don't think I don't think he takes the game as serious as Tom as well Yeah, he doesn't take the game as soon as not to be too different He never has who totally different types of quarterbacks, especially when it comes to their approach to the game and the seriousness of it and the way they take it. So I could, I could understand if you're coming back up, if you're coming off an injury like that and you already don't take it serious, you do what you need to do to get back. It's in good graces and health to play. But your approach is still wrong because everything you do talk about when you are on TV, it has nothing to do with the game of football.

Nothing. Oh, you finally, you finally say like, I just don't understand. Every time he speaks, it never has anything to do with damn football. The worst shit I got to look up in the goddamn dictionary on a goddamn computer. Are you talking about going into the dark and he's talking about these trips and he's talking about this and talking about that. Nothing about building team camaraderie building team chemistry. And when he could have been built he could have been doing that he was an e-jump talking about a trip. Everybody know what that mandatory meeting camp you don't play nothing around thatcho. Cause that's the one that you got to be at.

Oh, let me, everybody that understands what the word mandatory means has to be there. But what he failed to realize, what he did in Green Bay, ain't got nothing to do. They want to see what you're going to do for the Jets. You heard Tomber, I said it when I went to Baltimore,

them Pro Bowls, those all pros, those Super Bowls, that ain't got, I've done nothing in Baltimore. I've got to come in, work my ass off, to let them see how I became the player I became, while I was there. Peyton said it, Tom so eloquently laid it out. He's like, what is what I accomplished in New England got to do with Tampa? Tampa getting, Tom getting his teammates. Hey, let's go to the park.

It's in COVID. We ain't supposed to be in the park. You ain't throwing that house for our ass out. That shit was funny. Peyton getting his guys together. He getting, he grabbed up Julius and Decker and Julius Thomas and no Sean. Hey, let's go throw guys.

I think Stokely was there at the time. Or Welker. Let's go, hey, let's go throw. Let's build up some chemistry. Let's build up a bond. Let's get the note. Let me tell you where I want to throw the ball. You tell me where you want the ball

and let me tell you what I'm looking for on this route. Nah, let me go over to Egypt. I've already got this trip planned. Hey, so it is what it is. And you want to, if, if I'm the Jets, I need somebody to explain to me, why would I want to make it here? Yes. If Aaron Rodgers is not done, if he's not done.

He's I sign to you, didn't he? Oh, no, we have another. We have another. Sure, he does.. He has nothing. I'm sure he does. Right. But for what? Why do I want, tell me, tell me why do I want him Mojo?

What am I getting? A 41 year old that's a year older than what he is now? So what? He's going to gain speed? He's going to be getting faster? You know what a better question is if you don't want a next year, what's your next option? What's your next viable option where you can compete and you can contend? Can I compete with Aaron Rodgers?

You telling me what I can't do without him, what can I do with it? The three and eight. So tell me what can I do with it? Because I can be three and eight without So tell me what can I do with it? Cause I can be three and eight without it and save 50 million. Hell, you in last place in the division. If you finish last place in the division with him, I can't finish in last place in the division without him?

But hey, you understand it. You know how difficult that position is, how difficult it is to find a quarterback for that position. You know that. It takes a while. It takes years. Yes. Have they found one?

They got one in the position. That was the last time they had one. That was the last time they had one. Think about that. That's even better question. He's been there two years. He... Yeah.

We gonna disregard that. Nah. Do they got a quarterback right now? They thought they had... Take Rogers off the back, take Rogers off the back of the jersey. No. You bringing that guy back next year? If he does get the grace to come back next year it's because of what he's done in the past. If he does get the grace to come back next year it's based off what he's done in the past. Oh, he's gonna get some great, absolutely. The Volume. Hey, it's Bobby Bones.

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