Club Shay Shay - Nightcap - Hour 2: Davante Adams Jets, Maxx Crosby trade interest, Troy Aikman criticism

Episode Date: October 23, 2024

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson recap the top stories from week 7 of the NFL season including Davante Adams eyeing a long-term deal with the New York Jets, Las Vegas Raiders DE Maxx Crosby could be on the move, Troy Aikman’s harsh criticism of the Dallas Cowboys wide receivers and much more!03:18 - Broncos vs. Saints10:12 - Davante Adams eyeing long-term partnership with the Jets22:25 - List of receivers that could be traded by the deadline24:00 - Is Maxx Crosby on the move soon?25:37 - Unc ain’t fooled by Jerry Jones27:00 - Odds makers looking at how Cooper has contributed to the Bills29:40 - Troy Aikman airs it all out37:42 - Jerry Jones explains his reaction44:55 - When will the Broncos retire the No. 84 jersey?(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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wagering and eligibility restrictions terms and responsible gaming resources. Sean Payton won in his return to New Orleans in a blowout fashion. The Broncos blew out the injury depleted Saints 33-10 on Thursday night football. Bo Nix played really, really well tonight. He was 16 of 26, 164 yards. A clean game. Offensive line did a great job of protecting the mocho.

No sacks, no turnovers. They ran the ball 35 times for 225 yards. Javonte Williams had 14 rushes, 88 yards and two touchdowns. As they completely take apart the New Orleans Saints, I mentioned they are injured and depleted. Sprint Sir Rattler was 23 of 35, 172. No touchdowns, no interception, but he was sacked and he was sacked six times,

but he was harassed all night long. Ocho, I mean, I'm trying to figure out how he got so, you know what? Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. The Saints have been bad. What happened was, listen, let me say this. Okay. We watched them take apart the Dallas Cowboys.

And so we overestimated how good they were. But when you look at what has transpired, they won their first two games and haven't really come close with the exception of Atlanta winning a game since. Ocho. And I don't know where the injuries starting to pile up. Listen, I don't think it's gonna get any better anytime soon. Listen. There's too many injuries Did your best two receivers are out? Derek Carr is out the first two games this season you put up 45 points in both of those games You go on on five since then

It's not gonna get any better anytime soon I feel bad It's not gonna get any better anytime soon. I feel bad Yep Adam or left this game Because of his hamstring injury now he's re injured it So some of some of the key quality players that you do need they even compete at the highest level because I know it I know they always say it's next man up, but they're the next man for a reason There's next man for a reason the Saints have only put up Yeah, you got you got you only put up

15 points the past five games after scoring 45 in the first two and that's simply due to obviously you said it and I think that's I'm not saying the Broncos won because of the Saints injuries But it played a big part The Saints are not at full strength therefore Listen the scoreline looked the way it did Bo Nicks Bo Nicks is good that goddamn. Javon J. Williams. Well, he could tote that pill boy He can tote that pill. I would like to see if the Broncos are playing a better team

I would like to see them get the passer game going a better team. I would like to see them get the passing game going a little bit more. Courtney Sutton, they got to get him involved. They got to get, they got to, they got to get him involved. He's making, he's making too much money to be out there getting cardio in. He's making too much money to be out there getting cardio in. That's all it was the night before. That's what he got tonight. Yeah, yeah, that shouldn't happen. That shouldn't happen. I'm sure he's frustrated. I know they won the game, but one of the things they do,

they use it against you. If you don't have the production and you make a lot of money like he's doing, they use that against you in the off season. But other than that, the Broncos look good. I mean, wait, they got a tough game next, don't they? Right? I could have swore, I think if I'm not mistaken, they got a tough one coming up.

Oh, well, listen, that's another one. They got the Panthers. That's another one. You know, I like, I like Bo Nicks too. I like Bo Nicks. Bo Nicks got Moxie Bo Nicks. Bo Nicks got Moxie. I don't even know what Moxie mean. I just heard Mel Kuiper use it during the goddamn draft. He real he real feisty like remember how Baker Mayfield was at Oklahoma? For some reason, I don't know why Bo Nicks just gives me that. He just gave me that that

that firecracker type. Yeah, like a firecracker i i don't know i don't know how to explain i don't know how to put in the right words but i like bonix i like him i like yeah he's got uh he's got some athleticism he can run yeah need to work on his accuracy but he's he's he you can do a lot of things with him, Ocho. They got the, they got the Panthers next and then they got Ravens and Chiefs. They probably, they probably gonna win this one and that momentum, that momentum, hopefully, you know, they have a great defense. I'm assuming maybe Pat Surtain would be back by then and now the concussion protocol. But listen, if they could win this next one against the Panthers, but they probably will I'm curious to see how Bo Nicks plays against now. We talked about two defenses that are much better That it much better and you're gonna you're gonna need

Yeah, yeah, huh and offense is also much better. Oh, yeah. Yeah So we're gonna see if you if you plan from ahead or if you have to play from behind Either way it goes gonna be it's gonna be a good one and it's gonna be a good test for both two it's gonna be a real good test for both yeah yeah um i mean considering how poorly they played uh sunday against the uh chargers they didn't play particularly well considering they had one three straight and they were playing really they were playing really well so i was surprised that they didn't play as well as I thought they would on Sunday against the Chargers.

And the Chargers had been struggling. That is a division game. So you kind of toss a lot out of the window when you play a division opponent because you're very familiar, even though they have a new coaching staff, that's still someone in your division. A lot of the key players are still there,

especially offensive. We talk about Justin Herbert and a couple of the receivers, although Keenan, especially offensive, we talk about Justin Herbert and a couple of the big, a couple of the receivers, although Keenan Allen is gone, Mike Williams is gone. They still have some guys that played heavy, had played a lot of, a lot of snaps last year for him, especially at the skill position. Offensive line is pretty much intact.

They signed off, they drafted off. I don't know if he's playing, I think he got dinged, but defensively, they still got some players, they got some players over there on the defensive side of football. That's what's most surprising when you talk about the charges, is that they're not better considering

the defensive talent that they have on that side of the football. But the Broncos go on the road on a very short week, it's never easy playing on the road, but when you cut the days down by three, instead of playing on a Sunday afternoon, you're playing on a Thursday night and you just played Sunday afternoon.

Ain't a whole lot of time on Joe. Ain't a whole lot of own field practice. It's a lot of film study. It's a lot of walkthroughs, a lot of basic stuff. Hey, let's try to put this thing together and get out of here with minimal injuries cause you know you're sore. Unless you like your first or second year,

anybody that's five years from here. Oh, you hurt. You are definitely feeling it. Oh, you hurt. After being acquired by the New York Jets from the Las Vegas Raiders, earlier this week, Devontae Adams is eyeing a long-term partnership with the new team.

When asked if he'd like a multi-year relationship with the Jets, I hope so. That's the plan. I never go somewhere in hopes of having to find a new home. While Rogers has been effective throwing the ball to Garrett with an Allen's czar over the last couple of games, the outside spots, which has been a huge problem. Rogers and Mike Williams have not been on the same page

in 2024. The Jets offensive suffered. They averaged three hundred and four yards per game. Eighteen point eight points with a little less than 19 points a game. Both ranked 22nd. Oh, Joe, are you expecting that? Damn right. I'm expecting those because there's something you can't teach. There's something you can teach that Aaron Rodgers and Devontae Adams have. That's almost seven or eight years worth of work.

Seventy six something. I think maybe sixty seven something maybe seventy six TDs, eight thousand yards together, one hundred seventeen games together and the chemistry that they have. A look. I can look at you and I know where you're going to be at. I know everything you're going to do. Aaron Rogers could be blindfolded and whatever the route is, he can throw it to a spot and know Devontae Adams is going to be there every time. He's familiar with the system that they're running.

So all he's doing is just, he's going to a new team. He's with the Jets and you just plug him in and you just go. I mean, I know it sounds simple the way I'm saying, but when you have a quarterback that you've played with for so long and you still as a receiver are very adequate at doing what you do as far as getting open and running routes, he's still one of the best despite the lack of production because the inconsistent play at quarterback, there's nothing wrong with him. I guarantee you they both pick up where they left off at. I think the thing is that they're very familiar with each other.

It always helps. Same thing. Yes. System. This is the system that he ran in green Bay and the plays us with familiar, Roger's voice in his ear is familiar. So yeah, I think they should pick up where they kind of left off what? I'm excited.

Years ago. At least I hope so for his sake. Because you know, look, they have started to say Devontae wasn't the same receiver last year. Not factoring in, not factoring in that he lost Derek Carr. Aiden O'Connell and whomever the other quarterbacks were, that's not Derek Carr.

And so no matter what you think, yeah, Derek Carr's not, he's not Joe Burrow, he's not Patrick Mahone, he's not one of these top quarterbacks, but he's better than Aiden O'Connell. And his first year with Devontae, Devontae had 1500 yards and was the first team all broke. There's something to be said for that. There's one thing that I hate that the pundits do,

the analysts, those that should know the game, and they always talk about certain players losing a step or they don't have it anymore. When you don't factor in that, for one, the inconsistent player quarterback affects that, the opportunities that you normally get when they're putting up those numbers, those good numbers, there's a reason why you're not doing so. And they never factored it in. The first thing they say is, oh, the player is losing a step when you know that's not the case. Instead of saying exactly what it is.

I'm glad you brought it up because we know there's nothing wrong with him. Now you'll know when a player loses a step by watching him. I'm curious to see how teams are going to play the Jets now. They play the Steelers so it's going to be a very very interesting matchup. Joey Porter Jr is he going to take Garrett Wilson or they're going to put the number one on on um on Devontae Adams. So I'm not sure how it's going to play out. So for his first game back with Aaron Rodgers this is a good game, a good test for them because they're playing a very good defense in the Steelers. So I'm excited. I'm excited. I think, I think they're going to pick up right where they left off at. And there's,

there's a certain chemistry when you play with somebody so long that you just can't replicate. And I know, I, I, I just know they're going to take some of the things they did in Green Bay, add it to that, add it to that offense. And they go, they just going to go some of the things they did in Green Bay, add it to that, add it to that offense. And they just going to go to work. Yeah. But let's be real. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Aaron Rodgers had played well this year, Ocho.

Yeah, yeah. I mean, let's not, I mean, I understand what he was in Green Bay, but we haven't seen that yet with the Jets. And it's going to be very interesting to see if he can get back. Now, do I expect him to be what he was in those MVP seasons? I don't, Lucho, I don't.

I mean, he's, no, I mean, he's coming up in the Kylis and he's 40 years old. Yeah, but also, when you have a weapon like that, you can count on every goddamn time. If you look, if you've been watching the Jets games, I've been watching the Jets games, like, if you've been watching the just games, I've been watching the just games. Like, maybe you got a young bull, like 17, man that can actually get open like that.

I really think even post-pre Achilles injury, he could always count on them boys to be open. That's the reason he was able to win that MVP. He was able to get the ball to them, he was able to facilitate and they were always open. He knew where everybody was going to be. They were always in the right spot. There would be no mistakes. Like you saw the other night we threw the ball to Mike Williams and Mike Williams wasn't on the red line.

What's wrong like that? Oh, the quarterback. You gotta eat that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. What you say, what you say is there's a little miscommunication. You know, now we get behind closed doors. Yeah, he released inside, but he never got back out. If they plan to, and you got to go ball, if you're going to release outside, get back out there to the red line so the quarterback got somewhere to go with it.

Eat it. I mean, how many times you think during the course of a game, a receiver runs the wrong route, quarterback has the wrong read, and you don't know about it, because they don't discuss it. And then I'm sure it happened. I'm sure that's what we do. That's why that's why cars are like, hey, I never forget. Yeah. John was the same. Right. John was the same.

John was the same way. Troy was the same way. Peyton Manning, you heard Peyton Manning. Quarterbacks are, hey, you understand. Hey, they control the food on the table. Now, they'll control whether you get to eat a lot or a little. Now, how about you want to eat? You better be careful.

Oh, I'm,? You better be careful. Oh, I'm OK. Better be careful. Matter of fact, I'm glad you just said that. You absolutely better be careful. Let me tell you how I want chat. Chat, those of you to look at my stats when you get the chance. Look at my stats.

I don't remember what year this was, but I was kind of disgruntled. I was kind of disgruntled. And I don't think I asked for a trade. It might've been Drew. It just, I kind of got sick of the media blaming me for the reason we were losing. So they were putting everything on me because obviously I was the one doing all having all the fun and whatever. So they started to turn on me a little bit, our own media in Cincinnati. And I said, you know what? Well, Hey, I want to trade. I want out something like that that. And I remember the Reds, excuse me,

the commanders at that time and Dan Snyder, they offered the Bengals a one for one. And Mike Brown said no. Mike Brown said, no, we're not going to set a precedent that a player can come in and say, OK, he's not happy and say, oh, you know what? I want to trade. No, it ain't happening.

So they turned that down, right? I'm just coming off a really good season Despite me being disgruntled. I don't know what they did offensively or how they weren't able to get me the ball that particular year all of a sudden Okay, have about five hundred yards The whole season I swear to God No, no, no, no, no season. I swear to God.

Oh, no, no, no, no. Would that be the last year with the last year with Gio? Well, 113 yard season. And then, you know, I was getting the media was on my ass about us losing. There was nothing. I was healthy.

I was completely healthy. I swear for God, if you look at my stats, you look at it, it's thousand, thousand, thousand, thousand, thousand, thousand. And all of a sudden it's a 500 yard season. I don't know if they found a way like, like to work me out the offense. I really had 500 yards the whole season.

And then the next season, I'm right back to 1200. Like it's like in a sense, it was like, damn, are they that powerful where you know what, oh, you want to play with us? Okay, we're gonna play with you. The whole season and I was scared to say anything because I already called Ruckus and made noise in the offseason. So I'm definitely not going to do it in season because I'm already I'm already on thin ice. Yeah. In a sense.

And I'm like, well, damn, they're not even like I'm not even part of the offense. That's what it felt like. And I was still I was still that boy. I know what the hell I know what the hell was going on. So I just had to throw that story out there based on what you just talked about easy Well here's the the problem that they have is that can they protect now you see Buffalo will have relentless pressures on Rogers What do you do? Yeah, what do you think the Steelers are gonna be able to with TJ? Yeah, and he better chip

What are they gonna have a game plan? Because, um, is the brother Tyron Smith on the left side? Hey, listen, no disrespect, no disrespect to him. But obviously, I don't think he's going to have to go get TJ White because TJ White is most of the time he's on the left side. So he'd be dealing with the right tackle. But that young boy, that young boy, I don't know who it was. was. He was struggling with but he looked like his feet and semen out there Hey FNF man, listen

He's not why he's not what he once was when he was the Cowboys. Maybe the injury. I'm not sure what it is Yeah, I Mean I think the Jeff's way expecting to were expecting to get the old Tyron Smith. They just got an old Tyron Smith. Because he doesn't move. He doesn't move. He doesn't hit his feet to kick the slide. The punch.

He can kick. He can kick but the footwork ain't what it once was. And it's hard. Right. He don't cover as much ground with the kick. And he's gotten really lazy with his hands. And you see a lot of guys just wax on wax off and they gone, they buy it. And they never used to be tired of that move.

He was so strong at the point of attack. Once he put that hand, yeah, and gets you in your chest, boy, you ain't going nowhere? Yes. Yeah, you know't going nowhere. Yes. Yeah, you know, I be watching, I be watching off at the tackle plate, I know. I'm Julian Edelman. I'm Rob Gronkowski. Guess what, folks?

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Whoa. You got Cooper Cup of the Rams. Hold on, why the hell he got Jordan Addison's name in there? There's no need to move Jordan. There's no need to move Jordan. Okay, the Cooper Cup, I understand. Pooka the Cool is probably gonna take over for Cooper Cup.

Yeah, obviously salary reasons. That's a big salary. They put him on there. You might't. You might not even know. He might take a pay cut. He might take a pay cut to stay in that system. Give me give me one more. Deontay Johnson, you know, you know, he'd be a good fit for him to go back to.

Yeah. Right back to Pittsburgh. Because they're really no disrespect to any of the receivers on the Steelers team. But he's another good viable option that can get the F open on the other side of George Pickens. Why not? You think you don't want to? When he want to. That's why they let him go. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What was he doing? Remember the loafing? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I remember that. But I'm sure you come out with a different

perspective. Because as you look at it with a different attitude, a different perspective. Because as you look at it, when you go from team to team like that, all right, now the window's closing. The window's starting to close. Your eyes start to open up a little bit more. You know, you're not a young chicken. You ain't no spring chicken no more. You start paying attention

to the way the league is moving the older folks out. So you come in on your best behavior when you get a second, sometimes the third chance. Is Max Crosby on the move soon also? He has some interesting comments today. I'm not here to rebuild. I'm here to win, whatever that means. But I'm here to win now. Wherever I'm gonna be, I'm gonna be here to win. So if I'm Detroit, I offer a first and a third round pick for Max Crosby. I'm not bulldozing, I'm not, look,

this is what I got on the table for you. I got a first and a third. Because you just left one of the premier, you just left one of the premier leading sacking seven and a half sacks yeah I'm going to get max cross and imagine next year max on one side and a no kind of another I mean it's about a no column and I ain't a Hudson on the other side ain't Hutchinson And they just signed, I mean, they got DJ Rita, they got DJ Rita that was at Cincinnati. I forget, they just extended a big D tackle.

I forget his name, they just gave a boatload of money, like 90 plus million dollars. They got some good, young talent. I mean, that GM has done a great job, but if I'm Max Crosby, I'm like, I'm trying to go to Detroit. That's what I wanna be. And he is a dream for Campbell.

That's the kind of guy Campbell wants to coach. You ain't gonna, hey, just let him go play. You gotta say much. See, a lot of people, I ain't one. See, a lot of people get fooled by, you know, Jerry, you know, Jerry's made a lot of black men millionaires. Those men could do something for Jerry. Don't let Jerry fool you.

And he don't fool Shannon. He showed you who he was. Jerry showed you. He showed't fool Shannon. He showed you who he was. Jerry showed you. He showed you a lot of who he was in 2016. He showed you, but y'all didn't wanna listen to it. Y'all didn't believe what you saw. Y'all didn't believe what you heard. Now all of a sudden some of y'all shocked.

You can't believe Jerry would say. Neil who? Neil on what? Yeah, okay. You will be on the line. Your hand will be over your heart. Like I said. You can't fool me.

It's the various day. When you get upset. Yeah. And what you say, and how you treat people, that's how y'all are. Everything, everything. So hopefully Mari, they build a relationship, build a get on the same page real, real quick. But we gonna talk about Jerry a little later.

We ain't done with his ass yet. I know I'm not. Clearly the odds make us Ocho feel that Cooper is a bigger addition to Bills than Adams is to the Jets. Because if Chiefs won, Ravens too, Texans and Bills tied for the third best odds. And then you have the Bengals and the Jets tied for the fourth best odds. I mean you have the jet time for the fourth best. I mean, the Bingles and jets, right?

You know, based on, based on the odds, I think, I think the odds makers are looking at how the bills are playing before Mari got there. They looking at how Josh Allen was playing, not having, you know, superstar weapons at his disposal and they were still doing okay. They were still doing well. So with his addition, I mean, it just, I mean, obviously it just takes everything up a little bit more. I could be wrong. I don't know how they make these things.

But again, it's just, it's an educated guess because you never know how things are going to turn out. Oh, that's crazy, huh? That's crazy. And it's stuff like that why people think that the game is rigged. They think it is, but it's impossible to get 53 people on the same page. I know that. It's impossible to orchestrate 53 people or 11 on one side of the ball and the other 11 to follow a goddamn script.

That's why I understand why people say that sometimes. Do you know how difficult that would be? Man, please. Ocho, we played the game. Yeah. You tell the first person, you tell them something in the air, and by the time we get all the way to the back, they ain't what even see it.

One little thing. So how you gonna get fit? Maybe once upon a time, Ocho, it's too much money involved. You talking about a guy that's making 60 million. You really tell me he willing to risk his 60 million? Is he there for the league to do what? But I...

But Ocho. Right, I think but oh Joe. Right. I think, you know, I think they'd be playing, maybe they'd be playing sometime. And there ain't nothing you could do. You think so? No, they'd be dead serious. Yeah. Okay, people are gullible. Why you think, like you said, look at the internet,

people believe that those are those people live, that they really be flying pirate jets, and they have them big homes, and they have all these cars and all that stuff. You see how the internet do that? And how somebody can say something on the internet, and it is totally not true. But then it gets retweeted, it gets shared.

And then it gets, man, that's, all these hoaxes. Such a such die. People are gullible, Ocho people are naive. Troy Aigman did not hold back when addressing the disappointment of the start of the Cowboys season. Whoa, whoa, whoa.

He took dead aim at CD Lam and the other Dallas wide receivers for their performances, hold on, through the first six game. I think the routes are terrible. I think they run terrible routes. And I've always thought that beyond this year, I think CD's got to improve in his route running. And as a quarterback, if you're not certain where the guys are going to be consistently,

it's hard to play that position. I see guys lazy coming off the line of scrimmage. Sometimes they run. Usually if they do, it's because they're anticipating they're going to get the football on that play. But if they're not, they don anticipating they're going to get the football on that plate but if they're not they don't and it all ties together so I'm not impressed with that part of the game Troy also talked about CD missing many camp I'm an old-school guy I just believe practice matters so do I

I believe that having the team together matters so do I so if I knew I was going to be signing him anyway I would have had to side so he'd be working out with my quarterback and doing things that they should be doing. Ocho, you see, this is what I like, Ocho. I like when Troy, see, I like when white quarterbacks say that, cause they don't get labored as haters or jealous. See, when you and I say that,

if I'd have said the exact same thing, which I'm gonna say, oh, say the exact same thing, which I mean Oh, you're a hater you jealous you bringing the black man. Now what y'all say about Troy? I'm listening jump in the comments. What does it matter? You're gonna say about what I'm gonna say to him. He jealous. He'll hate it He envious cuz that's what y'all do to when black we try to offer critique or what we see having played the game Y'all kill us y'all beat us up No, but y'all go to when Blacks we try to offer critique for what we see haven't played the game. Y'all kill us. Y'all beat us up. Now what y'all gonna say about Troy?

But CD was never. Oh Joe, I never looked at CD as a route right. CD is a guy that's tremendous run after the catch. He's not a route runner. He's not technically sound like Jeddah. He's not technically sound like Devontae. He's not a route runner. He's not like Tory Holt. He's not like Makena McCarter. He's not like Jimmy Smith. He's not like you Ocho. That's not what he is and that's okay. But what I do agree with Troy is that bro even when you not get the ball you got to bust your butt off the ball. You got to come off come off like the fact him singling out CD, him singling out that.

I mean, I hear a lot of CDs, there's CD that CD CD. But hell, the goddamn defense is atrocious. The defense is the defense is atrocious. I feel much better magnified now. Everything is magnified now because you're losing. So now when you're losing, everything is magnified. So you're losing so now when you're losing Everything is magnified. So now they nick pick at every little goddamn thing But you know that going in Oh Joe what's gonna happen you start to lose they say you lose

You start to lose guys locker room dirty. I Told you do Jerry talk about when we don't need him at practice. I said, you see, I said, you see, I said, you see how dumb that sound? Now you know you're going to sign it or we're going to get it. We knew we'd go sign it. Why would you? What do you mean he doesn't get anything at practice? Do you see the connection or the non connection that he and Dac has had for the first six games?

The Wi-Fi is off a little bit. You get that, you, I didn't, no matter what y'all did the previous year, you have to get in the lab. You got to get in the lab and rebuild that chemistry all up again. You got to unplug your router, plug it back in and restart. Every season you got to do it. And you can't do it in the off season when you just by yourself. Structured environment with people know it and pushing on

you. You and that's why that's when you get it done. And if you knew you was gonna sign him why wait? That's why I played a game. You did the same thing with goddamn Zeke. You did the same thing with Zeke. Thank you. Thank you Are you serious about winning that you need all your players together? You need them all together when it counts and when it matters mini camp training camp

All-season workouts. Come on, man But but here's the thing though, uhcho, is that we know Troy. Troy got Mike's ass. He expected, he demanded excellence from Mike. So this is not, but I just believe you got the whole guy's account, it is an absolute must. Now I'm not telling you what somebody told you, told me to say, I'm telling you, having been in situation, the standard is the standard.

And we don't change that standard because of who you are. We play to the standard and whatever happens after that, we live with it. But we're not going to come in, oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no no no no no no no no no no no no no no when we hit that field Asian yes sir we had an expectation I don't know how everybody else did it but when we hit that field in Denver yeah y'all listen y'all was a well oil machine but y'all was a well oil machine well oil machine, right? That was a well oil machine. Well, oil machine. There was an expectation, Ocho. Right. There was an expectation that we had. We played to a standard. We

know what was expect. We knew what was expected of us from each and individual each and every one of us. John had to play, we had a standard here. Right. But John needed to play to his standard. 84 needed to play to his standard, so did 30, so did 87 and 80. Everybody played to the standard.

Right. And then whatever happens after that, we live with it. But it wasn't, people think you get good in the game. You win the games Monday through Friday. Everything is tied together. Anybody that tells you that it's not, don't play the game and they've never played the game. That's when you win the game.

It's what you do in the meetings. How attentive are you? And practice. Yeah, I know, practice. Yeah. I need it. I need, I just, I just don't get these guys. I'm Julian Edelman. I'm Rob Gronkowski.

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Listen to Against the Rules on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts. While attending the NFL meetings in Atlanta, Jerry explained to the athletics, Diana Racini, why he reacted the way he did on 105.3. I don't know. I don't know that I would go as far as calling it the volume connotation is yelling. Okay.

But the facts are that if I'm going to be grilled by the tribunal, I don't need to be by the guys that I'm paying. Oh, so he K't fire him, huh? If you pay somebody a salary, can you fire them, Mojo? So let me repeat that because a lot of times people like, well, Jake, but the facts are that if I'm going to be grilled by the tribunal, I don't need it to be by guys that I'm paying. I can take it from the fans. I can take it from other people.

I take a lot of pride in how fair and how much I try to work with the media. We're brothers and sisters, but I was a little frustrated there that day. Little? Okay. We got in there as of accounting for decisions made in the off season. Okay, that might be as well going back to decision I made in 2010.

My point is that there's, that's from my perspective, there's no question. I'm sure that they would have liked to have me grill like fans are thinking, what are you going to do about this? And what are you gonna do about that? I get it, I get all of that. And I really go, I was really, I really will go along with it.

No, you wouldn't Jerry. Jerry went on to explain how his frustration stem from the individual asking the questions, not necessarily the topic itself. The wrong ones were doing the questioning. Now those had been real fans sitting there. If they've been people that I knew, they would have been talking about football people Hey, I might have a different answer.

I would have left. I would have left. Huh? Oh, Joe, you need that job. And then they can get another radio job somewhere. That job. Trust me, you can. that job. Trust me, you can. So let me ask you a question. So you think you could walk out on a job that Jerry Jones and you will go get another job? Now, I think just based on circumstance and other radio stations know what happened. Man, they're high that boy. Jerry wants some fucking yes, man, because he paying them. That's all it is. He wants some. Yeah, he want. I want. Yes. If I'm paying you, make sure you don't ask me the tough questions and make sure you're on my side at all times. A bunch of yes men. No, it's like it's like it's like dudes with an entourage. I want you to think about it. You know the dude, you know the golden

goose who making the money. Yeah, you never want to tell him, you know what? That ain't a good idea, boy. You know what? You shouldn't be about it. You know the dude, you know the golden goose who making the money. Yeah. You never want to tell him, you know what, that ain't a good idea, boy. You know what? You shouldn't be doing that. You know what you was drinking. Give me your keys. Let me drive. But you don't want to say none because you don't want to get your check cut off.

You don't want to get cut off. Come on, man. I don't think Jerry. Yeah. Ocho. Tell him to hire me. In Dallas, in Dallas. In Dallas, if Jerry Jones goes to any anything, OK, it says don't hire him.

That guy's not getting hired. The Cowboys, the Cowboys are Dallas. Oh, Joe, the man tried to get Roger Goodale. What the hell you think he gonna do to a guy making 100 to between $100,000 and $400,000? Yeah, power. It reveals who a person truly is. What? It reveals who a person truly is. You? It reveals who a person truly is. You got that kind of money.

You gonna flex your power. You gonna flex your muscles. You wanna be attached to the Cowboys, Ocho. You wanna be attached. You wanna be the flagship station. You wanna be able to have, you wanna be able to talk to Jerry. At what cost?

At what cost? And what costs? At what cost? You can't even look yourself in the goddamn mirror and really be yourself. You really can't ask a question you need to ask. You can't ask the questions that the people that's listening to the radio station want you to ask because you got to pay and appease to the man. Pay you the money right in the check. Got me. Got me. Tell him I had me. I asked him the questions. Yeah. No, you won't. Cause we just not starting to get you to do the right thing. I know you ain't different with Jerry. I asked. No, you're not. Then see, you have to be careful. That's why I say let me

have this. You got to be careful. Oh, and feel run everything, bro. I got the main man. I got the main man on speed, though. I'm good. Yeah. Just between you and I? Yeah. The most powerful man in the NFL, he lives in Dallas. Okay. I don't like the way he's trying to scare me because he don't want no spoke. I ain't trying to scare you. Yeah.

But you know I will keep it factual with you. Yeah. That's him. Steven Jones all had to make sure he got something to say this week. When asked if he sees any significant coaching or personal changes during the bye week, he said, no, I don't.

We got the right kind of guys on the coaching staff. And I think we have the right kind of players. I feel like we got the right group here. I don't necessarily know that raising hell is the answer here. Right. So, ain't no changes. Ain't no changes.

What changes they gonna make right now anyway? Ain't really, where you gonna go? I mean, if you're gonna make changes, there has to be a direction in which you're going to go. And when you make the change, what coach you gonna go get? What players can you go get? No, I don't think, I don't think Jerry would make a coaching change

in season because Zim is on the staff. Zim defense getting trounced. So how do you promote him? Brian Schottenheimer has never been a head coach. His office is not like they're lighting it up. So if I were to remove Mike McCarthy from his duties, where am I going with this, Ocha? I got you.

So, but you know, look, that's what power does. I mean, power has you moving and thinking, oh, you asked me that question? Oh, get him up off of that. He gonna talk about it with the guy. The guy's asked you millions of questions before. Yes, he was upset, cause he getting the doors, but he getting, hey, they breaking it off up in it. They breaking it off up in the car. Yeah.

Oh, chill, they breaking it off up in it, and there ain't nothing they could do. Oh, chill, it's one thing if you lose about field goal here or something. Oh, chill, they're breaking it up up in here. It ain't nothing they could do. Oh, chill, it's one thing if you lose about field goal here or something. Oh, chill. They getting trumps. They getting blown out of the building. They getting trumps.

Their building. Kemper Nowood Jr. said, Unc, my question is, is when are the Broncos going to retire? You're 84, so no one else can wear it. You know, Kemper, that's a good question. I don't know. You know what, I need to talk to the Walton-Penna family.

I think if you went to go to the Hall of Fame, I think you should have your jersey retired. Especially, I did spend 12 or about 14 years there, helped win two Super Bowls. Hell, I think Me, Zim, Warder, Me, Zim, Warder, TD, Hell, I think me them water Museum water TD

Champs he's left away. Oh Well, you can wear it you go into the hall of fame you can get it Nelson said, who are your top five Broncos all time? Well, you got to start with seven is one. I will go TD, Vaughn Miller, John, TD, Vaughn. Hell, I know he only played four years there, but hell, you can't leave Peyton out. And then, I'm gonna say there's a tie between me and Champ Bailey for five.

I would take Peyton out and put champ. I mean, it's kind of like, I mean, look, he played, he played for the Broncos, man. I mean, he won the MVP, he went to two Super Bowls. He was a two time first team All-Pro. He broke the record for touchdown passes in the game. I mean, a season, He broke the record with touchdown passes in the game. I mean, a season, he broke the record with touch, passing yards in the season. So, I mean, Vaughn basically single-handed won a Superbowl.

So, I mean, he got what? There have been a hundred sacks for the Broncos. Man, I think he's the premier defensive player in Bronco history. And, you know, we've had some, you know, we had a, a, a Tombstone Jackson. Uh, we had Randy Gratishaw. You had Mack, you had Dennis Smith, you had Atwater. Uh, we've had some pretty good defensive players, but I think Bond is the best one. Stick to sports.

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