Club Shay Shay - Nightcap - Hour 2: Davante Adams’ wishlist, Stefon Diggs drama, Anthony Richardson injury prone

Episode Date: October 10, 2024

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson recap week 5 of the NFL season. Top stories include Davante Adams’ trade wishlist, Buffalo Bills saying they didn’t need Stefon Diggs, Indianapolis ...Colts QB Anthony Richardson being injury prone and much more!03:18 - Davante Adams trade wishlist07:55 - Jeremy Fowler releases article about Stefon Diggs’ time with the Bills20:00 - Anthony Richardson talks about being injury prone(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:04:43 The New Orleans Saints, Derek Carr, the Pittsburgh Steelers, the Baltimore Ravens, the Buffalo Bills, the Dallas Cowboys. The San Francisco 49ers are among the teams that have entered and that have inquired about the six time pro bowler are our places. Adams would be obviously he loved his being the base. He's from the area. So he loved to be back out there. Where does where do you think Devante?
Starting point is 00:05:05 Listen, the only thing, the two things that make sense. For one, the Cowboys don't have the money. They don't have the cash space. What makes the most sense is playing with Derek Carr out with the Saints. And what probably is going to happen is him playing with Aaron Rodgers in New York. He's familiar with the offense.
Starting point is 00:05:24 He's familiar with the quarterback. He's familiar with the quarterback. He's familiar with the offensive coordinator. So it's a just you go there and you plug in and you play right now because he knows the offense. Aaron knows him. It take them who knows how long just to develop that chemistry that they've already had throughout the years. And to me, it makes the most sense, especially the offensive perspective. If you watch the Jets against the Broncos with them really having no arsenal weapons outside of Garrett Wilson to throw to, think about what you do if you add Devontae Adams
Starting point is 00:05:52 and give him his old weapon back. Then you have Garrett Wilson, it takes some of the pressure off of him. I want Garrett Wilson. No, you don't get to keep Garrett Wilson. I want Garrett Wilson. I'm going to shift him to the Raiders. Oh no, oh no, you can't do that.
Starting point is 00:06:04 Okay, oh no, you can't get him, oh no, you can't do that. Okay, oh no, you can't get him, oh no. You can't do that. Listen, what the Jets can do, oh the Raiders, oh you have a problem, okay, we'll give you his sign reddick. Now you got Matt Crosby, you got his sign reddick, you don't turn that down. He ain't got no money. Who ain't got no money?
Starting point is 00:06:19 He want a new contract. He say he want to go back to Philly. I don't know what they gonna do, but they gonna make it happen. I think it's going to happen before. What's tomorrow's Friday, right? Yeah. When is the trade deadline? The trade deadline I think is in November. I think they pushed it back. Yeah, but see they don't, they, this is, they don't need to waste no time.
Starting point is 00:06:37 And I don't, I don't think knowing Mark Davis and knowing Antonio appears and Tony appears, gonna stand on business. Antonio got time for that. You know, if you understand who he is, the type of man he is outside of coaching. Oh, I ain't got time for this. This is becoming, I don't wanna use the word distraction. I'm not gonna use that word, but he just wanna get things expedited as fast as possible so everybody, so both sides are happy.
Starting point is 00:06:59 So I wanna see Demonte Adams on the field. And I would love to see him in the uniform or isn't even room for him over in New Orleans anyway, where Chris Olavi, Rashid Shahid is already there. I'm not sure who the number three might be, but for him, I think the better fit from an offensive perspective is being with Ann Rogers. And, and then from a productive standpoint, being able to put up the numbers you're used to putting up will also be there.
Starting point is 00:07:23 If he goes with Aaron as well. Yeah. Um, but whatever reason here, Garrett Wilson, Aaron and Garrett Wilson hadn't been able to get on the same page. We saw them on the sidelines doing training camp, having discussions about where Aaron wanted to be, Garrett Wilson, where he was, where he wanted, where he thought the ball should be. So they haven't quite got on the same page as of yet.
Starting point is 00:07:44 Um, that's years. Normally it takes years for a quarterback and a wide receiver to develop that chemistry where they tell, uh, they understand each other without saying the word it's just a look, I know where the ball is going to be, I, where I need to be, I know where he's going to be. He knows where the ball is going to be. Things like need to be. I know where he's going to be. He knows where the ball's going to be. Things like that. It takes time. That is it.
Starting point is 00:08:08 You know, it's yeah. You can work on it in mini camp and you try to strengthen that in training camp and then hopefully in preseason. But. Oh, they do not know things. You didn't have you didn't. You didn't have the mini camp because the last mini camp, I don't think Aaron came, in training camp, they was trying to work through it. But then in camp, normally, Ocho,
Starting point is 00:08:30 when we have a problem in practice, we get an opportunity to work on it in the preseason game. But now nobody's playing the preseason, so we don't get a chance to work on it. Yeah, it's different. It's different. So hopefully, Devontae, I like Devontae a lot. Hopefully he gets this situation resolved.
Starting point is 00:08:46 He gets to go somewhere. He probably like, damn, probably should have stayed in Green Bay. Jordan Love. Oh, but yeah, but no, it's a young man's game now. It's a young man's game. And obviously he made the right decision to go play with Derek Carr.
Starting point is 00:09:01 The right decision to go play with Derek Carr, obviously his college teammate from Fresno State and just so happened, listen, they decided to ship Derek Carr off to New Orleans. Jeremy Fowler, VSPN, posted a long article about Stefan Digg and Buffalo Bills divorce. They keep doing it. This divorce did not come out of nowhere.
Starting point is 00:09:17 Tremendous player at Team Source said, but the offense didn't need him anymore. He's super smart and if you sugar coat it with him and you're not 100%, he'll see through it. And the source said Diggs approach and he remembers everything you say. You always have to worry about how he feels as a bill team source said that words on the locker room coaches and scouts on Minnesota staff during Diggs tenure. They're often referred to Diggs experience as a roller coaster or the field on
Starting point is 00:09:45 on field brilliance that off the field irritability that can elicit discomfort within the football building. It can be a lot. He might throw a helmet. He'll wear on your quarterback, but find me a premiere receiver. That is not a diva. Listen, you played the position. You were great at the position.
Starting point is 00:10:04 Go ahead. We in week five, Stefan Diggs now plays for the Houston Tech. But why did his name continue to come up with Mr. Fowler or anybody else that's a part of the Bills organization? Now you talk about you didn't need to Stefan Diggs, right? Please tell me how they look when they played against the Ravens. Please tell me when Josh Allen couldn't put a Superman cape on and need a viable threat to go to when you're playing against a really good defense that might be top three in NFL right now I might
Starting point is 00:10:34 add who did he have he can go to and say you know what I need you to get open right now come hell or high water I can't scheme you open I can't I can't I can't help you get open I can't put can't I can't help you get up. I can't put you most. I want to line you up. It's 35. I need you to win for me right now. I don't want to play Superman. I just need you to go and get it out in the mud off the muscle. What happens when you don't have that? You can only scheme people open so long.
Starting point is 00:11:02 This is no disrespect to the bills receiving and what they have. I like what they have right now. I like it. I especially Keon Coleman. He's a rookie, but he's not, he's not there yet. He's not there yet. I like what they have, but still, Stefan Diggs is a top premier receiver.
Starting point is 00:11:17 No matter what people may say, no matter what people may think, look at the numbers that him and Josh Allen put up together in his tenure there, the first four years. Look at the numbers they put up. Allen put up together in his tenure there. The first four years. Look at the numbers they put up. It's not a mistake. Of course you're going to be upset when he doesn't get the ball. You know what the first thing they do to you? When you don't have the stats, you don't have the numbers to go with the salary that you're making. That's the first thing they use against you.
Starting point is 00:11:38 Well, if you look at your numbers, you're not putting up the same type of numbers now. We think it's time for you to take a pay cut. That's what we think, you know, so they use all this. Man, listen, man, Stefan Diggs is going to Houston, Texas. That's it. Stop bringing him up. I don't know why they continue to do so. He's already there. I just took a different approach. Would you talk to me now? I was like, hey, I was like, hey, take, I think the thing is, is like, what, what bothered me is that they hadn't come to me early in the game.
Starting point is 00:12:11 It's the third quarter, fourth quarter. And they asked you, hey, what'd you like? No, don't ask me that. No, I remember how y'all say y'all was gonna spread it around this week. He spread it around. I'm good. Right, right, right. Because I'm gonna walk upstairs and I'm gonna knock on Alex door on Monday and I'm gonna get that check. Right.
Starting point is 00:12:31 Don't ask me. You said let y'all do y'all job. I'm gonna let y'all do y'all job. Because if I do, if I do y'all job, y'all don't pay me for this. I'm gonna make the same, I'm gonna make the same amount of money, Ocho, whether you throw me 12 balls or you throw me one. Now, the likelihood of us winning when you throw me 12 greatly increases, I thank you. Come on, I take it. But I'm not I'm not I'm not I. I'm not going to be mad.
Starting point is 00:12:59 I throw no helmet. I ain't tearing them. That's the same thing. I see it. The only time John really got mad at me is that what I needed five yards? to get a thousand back then receipt or tight end didn't get a thousand yards, I Had what I had I had nine ninety five at the half. I had six catches for a buck fifteen bucks sixteen To touchdown
Starting point is 00:13:24 We are 14 points. We lose the game and older cut overtime. I ain't catch another point. You say what I say, bro, I ain't, I ain't never come to you and tell you say, no, that's your job. So no, I'm not, I'm not fit to be, cause I understand, I understand how it works. And I tell people this all the time, no matter, and it's applicable because for the most part,
Starting point is 00:13:48 I had manual labor jobs when I was growing up, and they gonna need people. They gonna need people to pick up the pecans, the clipped onions, load tomatoes, the belt, and hey, hey, whatever, they need that. But when you work these people jobs and there are other people out there that want those jobs, they're going to tolerate you to the end. Always, always, always.
Starting point is 00:14:12 Now, and like you said, now you can speed up that process. You feel that process because you and I both know. Tio should have been a one helmet or two helmet guy. Yeah. That's it. That's how great he was. Same thing, the same thing with Randy. He should have been a one or two helmet guy. That's how great they were.
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Starting point is 00:19:26 You're not today. And the funny thing about it, even though you can't replace them, even still, they know you can't replicate what they've been able to do from a production standpoint. But I understand what you're talking about as far as the business goes. I understand. Just oh, Joe, it's just like it's just like a relationship. You might you might be and I'm not just talking about women I'm talking about man. It might be a woman. She can do everything
Starting point is 00:19:50 But treat you a certain way So even though she can cook she take care of her she do everything that you might need But she becomes a headache it because the problem is the nagging. She doesn't give you the peace. And as soon as you find somebody to give you and it much they might not ever be able to do totally what you can do, you let it go. It might be a man. He pay all the bills. He do everything. You know what?
Starting point is 00:20:21 But. And she gone. She gone. Now I don't know about that scenario right there. A woman leaving the man to pay all the bills and going to somebody else that ain't, I don't know about that one. I tell you what, she'll do something behind his back
Starting point is 00:20:38 until he find out and then he'll get rid of him. Well, that is true. But they will play that, that's, yeah. They'll give you a reason to get up out of it. Well, that is that that is true. But they they would they will they will play that. That's that's yeah. They'll give you a reason to get up on it. So ever, ever, ever. She heard him. She's my uncle. We're tonight.
Starting point is 00:20:59 So as a team, a team will say, you know what? Yes, we're not going to find anybody to give us those numbers. But I'm not finna deal with this no more. I'm not dealing with this anymore. I'm not finna keep begging you to act a certain way. I'm not gonna ask you to keep doing this. We done. Hey.
Starting point is 00:21:22 And then, because here's the thing, Hucho. If you have a great, let's just say, Tio should have been able to get two or three more years just based on what he had done in his previous 12, 13 years. Just that alone should lie and say, you know what? Hey, you know what, Tio? We can't pay you the money with you normally get, but here you go, bro, we need you to be the third receiver. We're going you three four five million dollars. Yeah Same thing with a B
Starting point is 00:21:52 Talented a B one. There ain't no reason a B shouldn't be in the left none whatsoever but You see what happened in Pittsburgh and you see what happened in Oakland, but I think the fans that did AB a disservice because when he was posting everything and they were like, AB, yeah, you right, AB, you right, AB. Ooh, AB, let AB free. Bro, stop this, man.
Starting point is 00:22:18 Y'all see the man being destructive to himself. Why would y'all, why would y'all egg that behavior on Tom through my lifeline? I guarantee you they ain't 10 guys. They got feet better than AB right now in the NFL. Hold on. It ain't no AB in the NFL right now at all. And that's no disrespect to the talent that's there right now.
Starting point is 00:22:39 That's no disrespect to the top five right now. Ain't no Antonio Brown out there. Now it's different now. And't no Antonio Brown out there. Now it's different now. And ain't no AB out there. It, that he had the guy himself. Yeah. When he should still should have been there. So it just goes to show you, it's just like another job.
Starting point is 00:22:56 You know what? He ain't as productive as he once was, but he good in the locker room. Think about it. A lot of times you see coaches, they'll go somewhere and they'll take a couple of guys from the team they were on just because. Right. I know when I live, if I needed a job, I'm going to get a job right now. I'm going to get a job with Kyle Shanahan's staff. I bet I can get a job with Mike McDaniel's staff. I can get a job with Sean McVay's staff. You know why? Because Kyle Shanahan staff. I bet I get job Mike McDaniel staff. I get job at Sean McVay staff
Starting point is 00:23:25 You know why because Kyle Shanahan and Mike Shanahan to go vouch for me Yeah But shoot I can give me I give you I give me a job I ain't called about I wanna be no damn I don't wanna coach either either. I wanna listen. I think it's what you want to do It takes too. It takes too much time to listen. I think it would you want to do it takes too. It takes too much time to me, I think, to see the real money. I'm talking about.
Starting point is 00:23:49 I'm talking about the real money. You hear me? Stay with me now to see the real money as a coach because coaching is so fickle. You got three years. If you ask a winning, you got to go. And I ain't moving everybody. I ain't moving nobody. I ain't moving everybody up to another state.
Starting point is 00:24:03 And we we we get fired. And I got to tell real. okay, you and all the kids, we got to go, we got to pack up. I can't do that. The money ain't good. I'm good right here. Ocho, Anthony Richardson talked about being injury prone. I had a coach told me once. What do you think Ocho?
Starting point is 00:24:23 The best ability is availability. We know it's a game of football where everybody running 20, 25 plus miles per hour is a contact. Well, if you know that, get out, it's a context. You've got to be able to protect yourself, especially at the quarterback position now because you last year, because you're injured now, you might have a hip injury or ankle, whatever it may be, they're going to call you injury prone.
Starting point is 00:24:46 It's going to stick in that late. That label is going to stick, especially if it starts early on in your career. So you just got to find ways to protect yourself, man. Listen, Anthony Richardson is a special talent. He has a special talent. He has, he has a chance and opportunity to change the structure of that coach franchise, you know, not saying he's going to be paid manning, but he has a chance to get it going in the right direction with a
Starting point is 00:25:08 along with the other young quarterbacks like Jade, the Jane, the Jane Daniels, the CJ Strauss. We just need him on the field. We need him on the field healthy and upright. So I'm hoping he has a speedy recovery. But right now, based on what we've seen the past two seasons, you would be just that injury prone. And I'm hoping he has a speedy recovery, but right now, based on what we've seen the past two seasons, you would be just that, injury prone. And I'm not- Ocho, this is where I'm going to have to disagree with you. Football is not a contact sport.
Starting point is 00:25:35 What is it? Football is a collision sport. Collision is part of, is contact. When two things collide, that's contact. See contact is minimal. People collide. I like it. Football, I heard somebody best describe football this way. Football is a lot like nuclear warfare.
Starting point is 00:25:53 There are no winners, only survivors. Wait, what am I? You don't win at football, you survive the game. You survive football. Because think about it. You say if somebody ran into you at 20 miles an hour, but you think about this. People are running in you at 20 miles an hour
Starting point is 00:26:10 over and over and over and over and over and over again. 15, 20, 25, 30, 40, 50 times a game. That's what I tell people. You want to know what it's like to play NFL football. Go to Lowes and get your hard hat and put on your biggest coat and get 10 yards away from your garage. Get five yards away from your garage
Starting point is 00:26:31 and run into it as hard as you possibly can, 20 times. Okay, now do it again 30 times and then do it again 40 times. And I tell you what, just for good measure, come back and do it again on Thursday because you got a short week. Now you know what it's like to play football. And everybody talk about he's soft, he's soft. measure, come back and do it again on Thursday because you got a short week. Hmm. Now you know what it's like to play football and everybody talks about he saw
Starting point is 00:26:51 he saw you wouldn't last one day. Yeah. Let alone a season. So stop it. I love how people tell me he saw, bro. You don't know what's off with you. You saw for the drugs, no cotton. All y'all like that bump in the glove. So I, oh, he saw, he saw, he scared, bro.
Starting point is 00:27:11 There's a reason why you on your couch talking. You were scared. Now you, now you know what? And now you know what I had to go through two times a year against the Ravens, two times a year against the Steelers. Yes. But you know, I was able to do it without getting injured Two times yeah against the Steelers Yes But you know I was able to do it without getting injured for years Can I tell you why I never got hurt?
Starting point is 00:27:34 What nutrition Oh Joe the same way people that never drink get cancer the same way people that do eat certain things, there are certain people that eat, or eat whatever and never get a disease. But there are some people that eat everything, boom. So ain't no rhyme or reason, okay? It ain't. What about the people that don't smoke and get cancer?
Starting point is 00:28:02 Get lung cancer. Get throat cancer. And there are people that smoke't smoke and get cancer? Get lung cancer. Get throat cancer. And there are people that smoke, been smoking 70 years, take their last breath. Oh well, he had a cigarette in his hand. Some people smoke 70 years, old joke, and never get it. And there are people that never smoked a cigarette or a cigar, never drank anything.
Starting point is 00:28:27 I just stopped trying to figure out why, look, this is the way it's intended to be. Hey, let me make the most of my time while I'm here. But Anthony Richardson, you're going to have to learn how to get down because you're never going to be big enough to run over those guys. They'll break you, bro. They'll break you. I understand you for you, six, five, two, forty four. You ran four, four, four, five. Yeah. He's going to be all right, though.
Starting point is 00:28:57 You're going to be all right. Get him healthy. Stay on that field. You're going to be all right. Oh, Joe, he got to protect himself. I mean, you know what? We got to stop running. I'm blocking for you. Oh, Joe, he got to protect himself. I mean, you know what? They got to stop running. I'm blocking for you. Oh, Joe, it's just like me. I'm blocking for you, Joe, on the jailbreak screen.
Starting point is 00:29:10 OK, once you break that and you see all them three guys, don't you go down, man. But listen, the coaches got the coach. You got to save him from the cell. Stop fucking running him. Stop calling plays where he's where he's run first. They got they got to change some of the play calling. You know, I understand if you can take off
Starting point is 00:29:29 because nobody's open, that's one thing. But design play runs, I think when he got hurt, if I'm not mistaken, that might've been a design play run. If I'm not mistaken. I don't remember. No, he scrambled on that one. But no, the what, but actually he got hurt to play before. Cause remember he got a limp and he scrambled and got him to play before and then the next one was a quarterback run
Starting point is 00:29:55 Yes, if I'm a defender I Hit oh if he ain't protecting you why the hell should I yeah, they one that's running you, I would try to drop helmet on you. Every time. Yes. So, A, protect yourself, bro. Protect yourself. They not, they not, they're not going to protect you. They gonna, cause think about it.
Starting point is 00:30:22 They go a whole game. They already done said, they can't put, they can't, cause think about it. They go a whole game. They already done said they can't put, they can't, in the pocket, they gotta put a blanket and get a nice little pillow and lay you down. They can't dump you like they used to. So once you get outside that pocket and you get past that line of scrimmage, boy, they trying to, ooh.
Starting point is 00:30:43 Boy, they ain't hunting that down, man. For sure, they had not met. But so I know I would. Yeah. I mean, the rules are already in the offensive favor. So, hey, you know, the rules that they like, they want to keep the star quarterbacks on the field. Well, it's your job is to get there. It's the office coordinator job and it's his job to stay on the field. Because if you break that line of scrimmage, I'm trying to split your mo' boat down. I'm trying to. Because that greatly increases my chance of winning.
Starting point is 00:31:19 Hey, I'm hitting you as hard as legal. Look, I don't want people to misconstrue this. I'm never going to hit anybody cheap unless you hit me cheap. Then I'm going to I'm hitting you as hard as legal. Look, I don't want people to misconstrue this. I'm never going to hit anybody cheat unless you hit me cheat. Then I'm going to get you back. Yeah, I'm going to get my lick back. I just want you to know, I'm going to get my lick back. But in that situation, I ain't going to hit you cheat. Hey there, it's Michael Lewis,
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