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Let's take a listen to the video courtesy of Hawk blogger on YouTube. Take a listen to this. Oh Joe. No Dallas is my home
I made my home there, you know, my family lives there, you know, I'm forever gonna be there
But you know, I know for sure I'm not going to win a Super Bowl there.
So.
Yeah.
We here.
We're here.
Demarcus Lawrence, welcome to the Seahawks.
Thanks for joining us.
Wow.
Hold on, Ocho.
Michael Parsons in.
This is this what rejection and envy look like.
There's some clown ish.
D Law responded calling me a clown won't change the fact that I told the truth
Maybe if you spent less time tweeting and more time winning, I wouldn't have left
Demon I like it. I like why I like it. I like it. Listen, wow
They don't really feel like that about each other
but you know, you know how you, when somebody leaves and they go somewhere
else and they understand and they see how the culture is and, and listen, the, the,
the Seahawks won the Super Bowl.
How long ago?
How long ago that was?
That wasn't that long ago now.
How many?
2012.
Okay, dad.
Nah, 20.
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now that he's going somewhere else.
Because you can see how things are run.
He can see how things are run.
Well, hell, they haven't won a Super Bowl
or trying to win one or building the type of team
to win one in a very long time.
They haven't.
So he's just telling the truth and understand, Micah,
Micah has to do, you gotta come, you You got to defend your team. You got to defend your squad.
Yeah. For me, Ocho, you have to be careful when you go to another team because you
know the emotion of it and you're like, oh yeah I'm so happy to be here.
This team is so much better than the team that I left. So you have to be
careful of that because it's easy to get caught up into that. Because I remember having my press conference,
and I was like, I wanted to say certain things,
but I had to be like, OK, Shannon, come on now.
You be the bigger person.
You're happy that you enjoyed your 10 years in Denver.
It was an opportunity.
Hey, somebody's going to give you another opportunity
to be what you were.
And you appreciate that.
I'm a little surprised that I'm surprised D-Law
said what he said.
I'm surprised Michael said what he said
and I'm really, really surprised D-Law responded.
Man, not really.
How could you not?
You got two people that love each other.
You know, hurt people hurt people.
Oh, that ain't real.
Yes, true.
We're talking about two dudes that played the same position that been on the team, you know,
three, four years have been how many years they been together.
They don't really feel like that.
He didn't get.
Well, I thought I thought you would I thought you would have said that you
could call we play together without me.
We we we we even so but they get along.
I'm telling you I knew them boys, you know, they ain't no.
You call. You ever call you ever call TJ a clown? You ever call TJ a clown? I'm telling you, I knew them boys, you know. They ain't no Hawkeye Village, so I'ma do.
Let me ask you a question.
You ever call TJ a clown?
You ever call TJ a clown?
Nah.
You ever call Carson a clown?
No, or T.O.
You ever call Corey Dillon a clown?
No, no, no, no, no.
Damn, I'm trying to figure out.
You ever call Big Willie?
Willie, my homeboy from the A.
You ever call Willie a clown?
Nah, you know you're cool. What the hell? You mean to tell me you you ever call Willie a clown now, you know, you know, you
You mean you ain't called nobody no clown that you still got down. I'm an offensive player and I get along with everybody
I'm just trying to figure out so who have you called a clown that you love and you cool with
Nobody I think I love everybody, that's my problem. That's my problem.
But again, you can, I mean, this football, you know, that's love talking.
That's her talking.
Man, I used to go to war with you.
What were you talking about?
We used to watch film, we used to study film together.
What you talking about?
We was in the weight room together.
What is you talking about?
Let me ask you a question Ocho name the three people that will
tell you the truth drunk kids angry people mmm they'll tell you that they
listen that's a young I'm can't can I say something real quick
yeah anytime someone is angry at you, whatever they tell you, when they're angry, you have
to hang on to that.
Because that's how they really...
Well, you just said he didn't mean that.
You said, well, my component of rejection, it doesn't look like this applies to you.
You told me not to mention that.
Hold on, now.
Hold on.
Stay with me, now.
Okay.
I really wasn't talking.
I really wasn't talking mail to mail, now.
I'm just throwing it out there for the fellas.
You got to stay with me, okay?
Oh, so when the feedback was coming in, you were saying, well, I'm going to be the president
of the United States.
I'm going to be the president of the United States.
I'm going to be the president of the United States.
I'm going to be the president of the United States. I'm going to be the president of the United States. I'm going to be the president of the United States. I'm going to be the president of the United States. I'm just throwing it out there for the fellas.
You got to stay with me, okay?
Oh, so when a woman tells you that,
I'm hanging on to everybody to obey that.
You got to have on that.
Because listen, when they drunk,
they'll tell you how they really feel.
When they angry, they give you everything you wish for.
Oh, that's how you...
Okay. Because a drunk mouth is so with for. Oh, that's how you, okay.
A drunk, because a drunk mouth is so with thoughts.
Okay, bet.
I'ma put that in my back pocket and I'ma hold on to it.
You can't never forget nothing.
But listen, you know the boy,
them boy, that ain't serious like that, nah.
That ain't serious.
I do have to defend my team.
Well, since you taking a shot at me,
you calling me a clown, but I'll tell you what, well, if you ass get off goddamn stop tweeting and doing whatever you're doing,
maybe we win more and I wouldn't have left. And you were gonna leave regardless because they were finna pay you.
He won't stay in no way. But I'm just, you see, you see what I'm saying?
It's just, ain't just just bickering back and forth, you know, two friends.
I got it. Yeah.
I bet you see, I bet you see him in a video or a picture sometime later on in the season.
Watch.
Before the...
That what you thinking?
I mean, I didn't...
I mean, look, D-Law's been there for a minute, second round draft pick, played a number of
years there, have a hell of a career in Dallas.
I would have never thought he would leave.
Right.
Because one thing Jerry does, Jerry take care of his players guys that he drafts
He believes in playing hating his homegrown talent and Dita D law has been there for at least a decade maybe longer
Maybe longer
But he felt it was time for him to move on. He wanted to be in a situation that he felt gave him a better opportunity
Excuse me to win. I'm sure the money, what, three years, 15 million?
Per year, I'm saying per year, three years, 45 million,
if I'm not mistaken, don't quote me on that.
I think I read something, I didn't know anything
about this until we just get ready to come on the show
and ask Ash, text me asking me did I see this?
I didn't, because I asking me did I see this?
I didn't, because I was exhausted. I came in and went to bed.
I ain't gonna lie, I came in and went to bed, man.
Like, woo.
Oh, he played 11th season of Dallas.
He's about to play his 12th season.
Wow. I like it.
I like it.
Matter of fact, where the schedule at?
Do the Cowboys play the Seahawks this year?
That's what I want to know.
No.
That's what I'm talking about.
Give me, give me, give me, make it a little bit more entertaining.
Have a few.
I would feel, I would feel more entertaining if one
was on offense and one was on defense. Okay I understand. You know what I'm saying?
Both of them on different sides so they're never gonna come in contact. It's kind of like
being you talking trash to each other. You on offense, I'm on offense. Even if we
play the same side of the ball and we going at it that means now we got to show up
now who's gonna be more productive who won't have the better game
Who won't get the most?
The most sacks whatever it may be how that who's going to impact the game more even if we do play the same position
Because when I was on the Ravens if I was talking trash to us another obvious player
I already know my steps are gonna be better yours because you were gonna do jack-ass
No, not against that defense. Oh yeah.
Oh no.
So it didn't matter.
It didn't matter.
It didn't matter what I did.
I might have one catch that was going to be more and more than you guys.
That's what I do.
That's what I do.
And if you did get a catch, you're going to wish you hadn't have caught it because they
were going to put a hassle on your ass.
So for me, yes, I love arguing with Dee Lyman.
That's who I got into the most argument with.
Rest is Soul, Taz Kennedy, Rest is Soul, Justin McClendon.
I stayed into it with them.
I stayed.
Every time we played, there was not one game that I didn't when chat was with
The Raiders or camp city that I didn't get into it with it chat with our tears was the same way
Sam Adams to say
Yeah, he can't what about bad friend but boy hey, nah bad
And the lineman gets no set. They like man. You ain't gotta block him. I was like well hey, hey
Dang, I got nothing to do with me. He talking crazy to me
What you think I'm gonna do let him talk crazy to me and because y'all gotta block him don't take crazy back man
I wish I might
Put your big boy pants on buckle up
Forget you, Reroy.
But hey, that was some great times, Ocho. Josh Allen would ask why he didn't look to break
that press got $60 million per year on record contract extension.
I know it's weird to say, but what's $5 million more gonna do for my life right now that I can't already do?
I've lived a really good life. I got a house, got a car. We're good. Do you like Josh saying this? I love
it. Oh, Joe, we're not talking about it. Oh, Joe, what the hell can I do? What can I do
with a hundred, with 330 million that I can do with 400 million? So he's saying, I'm making
55. What can I do with 55 million
that I can only do with 60 million?
What?
Once you get to a certain number,
it's like, like Elon Musk is the world's richest man.
Let's just say he's worth 50 million.
Ocho, what can I do with 100 billion?
What can I do with 50 billion?
What can I do with 10 billion that I absolutely need to do to have that?
Hey
So he's like bro
5560 do you see how I got a quarter of a billy
guaranteed a
Quarter of a bit damn that I can you could look if you're gonna guarantee me a quarter of a billion. Damn that. Look, if you gonna guarantee me a quarter of a billion,
I'll make 40 million.
If you gonna guarantee a quarter of a billion, Ocha.
So I, me personally, not to cut you off, Ocho,
I love that you said that.
Temple, what you think?
I mean, I like it.
It makes sense.
It makes some sweet sense.
Who would argue the fact?
I'm just curious.
Who would argue the fact? Outside'm just curious, who would argue the fact?
Outside of some of the-
Nobody.
You know what happens when you get greedy, right?
Mm-hmm.
It only makes sense.
Pigs eat well, hogs get slaughtered.
Hey, man, stay right there.
Stay right there. Yeah. Hogs get slaughtered. Hey man
Man you better stop boy, you better stop playing
Bring that listen, hold on. Bring it to me slow now
Yeah, digs eat good hogs get slaughtered I
Don't know what's the area I'm to be able to use this in conversation or argument, but it's, I'm feeling it.
Greed. Greed. Money.
That's what it's talking about, greed.
But like Josh said, Josh like at the end of the day, and the thing is like what Mahomes did is like,
okay, he got that big number,
and we knew Mahomes, if Josh is worth a quarter of a billion,
how much has a guy that's been to five Super Bowls,
won three two league MVPs, three Super Bowl MVP?
What's that worth?
But he's like, you know what?
At the end of the day, I need to be able to surround myself
because I can't be able to surround myself
because I can't win the thing by myself. No matter how great I am, I need people around me.
I mean, look, football players have to have that
because there's a cap.
Baseball players are always, for the most part,
going to get the most money because they keep trying
to push the salaries money because they keep trying to they keep trying to push the simp the salaries through feeling and so you see ain't no ain't no uh uh uh what's his name Soto
Juan Soto taking a 500 million taking 500 million when there's somebody out there they got 700
million for it you know guys they're not doing that because they don't like for it. You know, guys, they're not doing that. Cause they don't like, look, it's not my responsibility
because there is no cap, Ocho.
So it is like, hey, whatever the market up there,
whatever the team was willing to pay,
that's where we're going.
So if we got two, three, four guys on the team
that's making 200 million, 250 million,
he'll be it.
So absolutely be it.
But I love, I love what Josh said.
And look, I'm not going to tell anybody what they should or shouldn't do.
Josh said, I'm good at 55.
I don't need 60 because anything that I wanted at 50, if I need 60 to do it, I'm going to
be f-ed up anyway. Listen, he kept it in the round also from a point of being paid, where I'm still being
paid with the best, but also we can start from point A.
Yeah.
I'll continue to build around me so I can be able to contend to compete.
Not only get to the AFC Championship, but also be able to compete and contend for a Super
Bowl as well.
So I'm going to take 55. I'm not'm gonna take 55. I'm not gonna take 60 because I take 60. It's gonna take
some some of the potential off the table for me based on what I can put around me
to help improve my team.
I can get a good play for five billion.
You ain't gonna lowball me too much now.
No no no no no no no no no no. You're not gonna...
Oh Joe, you can lowball me. Give me a quarter billiony guarantee lowball all you want to you give me five million here
Hey
Guarantees right on
For you
Absolutely, absolutely
Look, I don't look I don't tell anybody what he or she should do.
That's you. You make the best decision for you.
I don't have a problem with Josh and his mentality.
Now somebody like Chase, and Chase says,
no, bro, y'all made me wait.
I need all of that.
If I'm not mistaken,
Josh had four years left on his deal.
Listen, you gotta understand. They view the quarterback position a lot different than
other positions.
A lot different.
And you have to understand the Bengals as well.
But the Bengals won't do.
You're not gonna bully them.
They've shown that countless times when Carson upset, when Carson wanted out or he didn't
see fit and said, I'm not coming back until I'm traded,
whatever it may be.
There've been other issues as well.
Hell, I even tried to try being upset, but they showed me, yeah, yeah, okay, that ain't
fit to work.
So then they weren't going to set a precedent even with Chase having two years left on the
deal.
Okay, we're going to pay you early.
That's not us.
That's not what we do.
We don't care who you are.
And they proven that and they've stood firm on that stance
regards to who has been.
So I understand.
He gonna get his money this year though, north of 40.
But let me tell you what you do.
If, but see here's the thing, Ocho.
You have to think a year or two in advance
before you decide to own out.
So now, hey, if I'm married, baby, hey, no extravagant spending.
We've been to lock this thing down because I feel we might be in a protracted holdout.
So now I've got to make sure everything is lined up because they know my money,
where it is. They know. So now they know I got 30 million.
I'm sitting on 30 million. I'll sit out these first eight, nine games. I'll come back because I got 30 million. I'm sitting on 30 million.
I'll sit out these first eight, nine games.
I'll come back because I got to make sure I'm vested.
I got to make sure I'm not going to give them a whole year.
Y'all going to do something.
Y'all won't pay me.
Hey, I'm going to go somewhere else and get paid then.
Because y'all not going to do this.
Y'all told me last year y'all was going to pay me.
I come out and have one of the great seasons in NFL history.
And now y'all talking about y'all not gonna pay me again? Oh that's not gonna happen.
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That's not gonna happen, I'm sorry.
Y'all paid everybody else,
y'all ain't got no problem paying everybody else.
But now all of a sudden, y'all don't wanna pay me.
Oh, gimme me.
Gimme me, I need all that.
And then you hear Ocho.
They want a first round draft pick for Trey Hendrickson.
Ain't nobody gonna give you that.
Y'all want me to give y'all a first round draft pick and pay a 30 million?
You don't think someone is willing to give up the back to back 17?
Absolutely not because I know you can't keep it. I know you can't
why would I pay hardball? I sure am. Let me ask you a question Ocho, why didn't somebody trade for
Coupa Cub? Because they knew the ramp was going to cut it. Yeah, they want to take it on that
salary? Come on man. You want me to get it Ocho, you want me to give you a first-round pick and paying right right right right right right right?
Okay, we listen we all say page. We all the same thing yes
Yeah for sure so no I don't have a problem with Josh, but if somebody says no
I want all the money
I got no problem with them because anybody that anybody that goes through the fire you deserve
Whatever you whatever you think you can get and whatever that team will pay.
But it just goes to show you, but like you said, they didn't have to do anything, but it just, hey,
he won the MVP, he's been a model citizen for all indications, he's been great in the community.
I ain't got no problem. I have no problem with them paying him. I have no problem with him leaving
a little money on the table. I ain't got no problem with it. That's an individual.
Man, he could have left some for who?
You ain't out here taking these licks.
You ain't out here, you ain't training.
You ain't away from your family
and talking about what I could do.
Nah, you should keep your mouth closed
because I'm gonna do what I'm gonna do.
What's in the best interest of Shannon family.
What I don't like too,
I think the fans are confusing and saying,
oh, T Higgins making 26, oh, that's enough.
That's a lot.
He should be well off with that.
I mean, they need to stop comparing themselves
and put them in the shoes of athletes
and what they should or should not get
or should or should not meet
because you're not out, you're not going to meetings.
Oh, oh, Joe, but they're looking at
But a lot of times fans looking at it from their perspective
And let's just say let's just say if I take a fan and I say, okay, you make 150 000
Of course 26 million is a lot of money to you
But if you feel you make you should make 300 000 and somebody and somebody your boss say, well, $150,000 is plenty to you,
you're gonna look at him sideways.
You have to look at it from an athlete's perspective
and the prism and the arena that he or she is in.
You can't just say, of course,
if I'm making $75,000 a year and somebody offered me
a million dollars a year. Yes
I've been we oh Joe. Yeah there. Yes
You talk about a guy that you're talking about a guy that made
$5 a day. So if I'm making $5 a day if somebody's gonna pay me 60,000 a year you damn right I'm gonna take it or if I'm making I made one on one summer. I made
$337.
Now you mean to tell me somebody's gonna give me $200,000?
So yeah, when you look at it in your terms, that's an absorbed amount of money.
But when you look at a guy,
and he's already making 15 million,
and he's put up these type of numbers,
no, that's not enough for him based on what he's done.
And he's not gonna let you.
They don't like that.
The fans don't view it like that.
I wish they were able to separate the two,
but I like that a lot of Bangalore fans
that got onto me simply about my issues
with T being able to hit the open market
because I'm understanding what T can get
and what he's deserving
and why fans want him to stay for their own selfish reasons.
They want him to stay for their own selfish reasons,
just keeping the band together.
And I'm looking at, you know, for long term, you know,
based on what he's been able to do,
despite even with injuries that he's had,
because I understand how good he is,
once he hits the court
I mean hit the court. I'm see once he hits the field and I know what you get
So I know he gonna get well well north of 30 32 33 if he hits open market
That's that's all I'm saying and people saying why wouldn't you want to stay he needs to stay 26 five is enough
I mean man, I guess that's that's not what it's about
That's not what about listen as I love my bangles live live eat shit sleep die bangles
but I also
Understand that he's deserving of what he is. I understand how this works
You don't take home team discounts on your first deal. You don't do... No, not the first one.
Maybe the second or the third one, but not the...
Because people are looking at, hold on.
Man, Miles done got two deals.
Now, he done got two max deals.
Ain't took no discounts.
Now, if he want to take a discount on the third one,
that's his prerogative.
But if he doesn't, that's also his prerogative.
I don't feel I should be obligated
to help a billionaire stay a billionaire.
Fans don't look at it.
Fans are like, oh, we pay your salary.
Well, you pay the owner.
You help the owner become a billionaire too.
But you don't look at it like that.
Y'all just look at the players.
Because the likelihood, you see the greater likelihood that you're going to bump into
Because the likelihood, you see, the greater likelihood that you're going to bump into the player in the grocery store at the car wash, the mall, as opposed to the owner.
So you feel a connection to that player like, oh, we keep.
But while y'all talking about y'all playing player salary, let me ask you a question.
Who y'all think paying for them yachts that these only that you feel Jerry Jones,
that are Jeffrey Lurie, that are Arthur Blank.
Who y'all think playing for this?
The ones that continue to show up, concessions that once.
Oh, who y'all think playing for that helicopter
laying on that practice field at Jerry's World?
Huh. Talk to him, Long.
Talk to him.
So y'all ain't got no problem.
Y'all don't have no problem paying for that.
But when a player asks for, oh, okay.
I don't understand.
You know, hey, ain't no thing.
Y'all, hey, y'all want to pay, y'all pay.
Hey, y'all like, look, y'all pay,
y'all rather pay a billionaire and help him stay there.
Because guess what?
Those owners are going to be owners a lot longer
than these players gonna be players.
Now you figure it out.
Now you tell me.
Gotta get as much as you can.
Hey, why the stove is hot?
What NFL player has played long as Jerry Jones
been the owner?
What player has played long as Mr. Krabs has been owner?
I'm curious
So y'all been playing y'all been playing their salaries and those big homes for those yachts and those mangin, but now
Okay, we cool. We good. Oh Joe We look who can the club says he will not be getting married until he wins the Super Bowl
I don't think I'm ready to get married anytime soon. I'm trying to win a Super Bowl.
Right.
I'm here.
What you think, Ochoa?
I like it. I mean, depending on where you are in life, I think that that scenario we talked about
night before last, or maybe last night, simply about the quarterbacks and how things come into
fruition, how life changes for the better when you get married, when you have that structure
and discipline on your hip. A man find as a wife find it a good thing
For the quarterback situation for some reason like life. It's just everything falls in falls in order
You know, it's like it's like a domino effect the receiver
I'm not sure it affects you in either way
So I understand pooling the coolest focus to want to focus on winning a championship
Which he has a good chance of doing especially with the the addition of my guy, the greatest right runner of all time outside of myself
and Devontae Adams.
Matthew Shaffer at the helm, you know, Mr. Gunslinger himself, he has a good chance to
do that.
So I get...
And you see the quarterback, they get it, don't you?
You see Josh Allen got engaged, Dak Prescott got engaged, Jlon Hurts got engaged, Patrick Mahomes got married early.
I mean, you look at, I don't think Joe has engaged or anything.
I don't know if he's seen the business.
I got another scenario for you.
I don't even think Dak Prescott had gotten paid yet.
Dak Prescott gets engaged and gets married,
something of that sort, and all of a sudden, boom,
60 million just came out of nowhere. I'm like, wait a minute
She oh that one
Hey, I'm gonna go. Hey, I'm gonna grab go grab somebody dog
Joe they give it out of quarter. Oh, it's something about it. Now. Now listen to me. I have I
You I told you I've been trying out trying to get you on the same page for a very long time.
You got to pull the trigger.
I'm telling you, man.
Listen, listen, I got, it's 2025, right?
Yep.
I'm going to take this year, I'm going to take this year, I'm going to relax, I'm going
to work, I'm going to grind, I'm going to have some fun.
No, I'm not going to have no fun.
I'm going have some, no, I ain't gonna have no fun. I'm gonna grind. The top of 2026, I'm going into 2026
with a ring on my finger.
I'm getting married.
I ain't got time to play.
I ain't got time to play, boy.
Life is short.
I'm on the back half now.
I ain't got that many more good years left in me.
You hear me?
I ain't got too many more, I'm talking about good years.
I'm talking about good years. I'm talking about good years.
Listen, my 20s, my 30s, I'm finna be 50.
I ain't got time to be playing.
What we talking about?
Think about it.
What we talking about?
Like really think about where we are in life.
Seriously, we done played around in our 20s, having fun.
We done played around in our 20s having fun. We don't play it around in our 30s having fun
We don't play it around in our 40s. I'm gonna be 50. What we doing, baby
But I'm gonna get married. Yeah, that's it. She chewed me. I mean it. I've been driving. No real good
Oh, Joe
You know with a song come, don't make me cry now.
Gee, isn't it funny how time just lifts on weight.
I told you I don't measure my life in years.
I measure my life in summers.
And I'm constantly thinking, I'm waiting on my blood work to come back so I can see what
my, is everything okay, my physical.
Based on my family history, probably somewhere between high end, probably 20 summers.
Based on my family history, mom, dad, family history,
so forth and so on.
You're right, Ocho.
It's time. Come on, Nat.
Come on, that's what I'm talking about.
See, that's growth right there.
That's growth.
It's time to get serious.
I'm with you when you're right now.
Come on, take your time.
It's just,
all this, you win awards, you've lived your dream,
you've done your dream,
you've done a great job trying to raise kids.
And there are times I think like, damn, everything that I've accomplished,
take the football side, that's my girl.
Now, who are you doing it for, why are you doing it?
And don't you want somebody to share that right with? Who are you doing it for, why are you doing it?
And don't you want somebody to share that ride with?
Come on man.
I'm sure driving cross country is fun.
But I think it's better if you drive across country with somebody.
Listen, without no Thelma there was no Louise.
What would be the point of Thelma if there's no league no leaves they got clad but who the hell was
clad without Bonnie huh without Weezy there's no George
if it wasn't for Tom who the hell was gonna chase Jerry so we did we need a
party somebody man some of the greatest stories in life is always two.
It always has been.
But you know, you feeling good in your 20s?
Oh, I just ain't worried about it.
I'm gonna find me somebody.
You feeling good in your 30s?
Oh, man, don't worry about it. I'm gonna run
through this little decade of 30s. Don't worry about it. Man, I done ran through my 40s.
Oh man, what I'm doing? I'm looking at my watch. Wait a minute. I'm on the back end
now. I'm on the back here. I done climbed the mountain and I'm scaling over the mountain
now to go downhill. Man, what we talking about? And the time went by so fast.
It did, bro.
We just have to leave.
And it just dawned on me, like not too long ago,
man, what the am I doing?
Like I'm just acting like I can't get this time back.
I'm wasting.
So it make it easy for me to move a certain way based on I can't get this time back I'm wasting. So it make it easy for me to move a certain way
based on I can't get this back.
I can't.
Now if I was in my 20s, I understand.
Okay, I could play a little longer.
You know, I could play, you know, I still got time.
Man, shh, boy.
One thing about that time,
you can't get it back and it do not stop.
It do not stop.
Shh, man, please.
Pocho gives his list of best wide receiver duos.
It's Ed Johnson.
He got number one, Chase Higgins.
Number two, AJ Brown, Devontae Smith.
Number three, Jedha and Addison.
Number four, Evan Zagadwin.
Five, Armand Ross A. Brown, J Moe.
Number six, Hill Waddle.
Number seven, Atlanta's Drake London and Mooney,
and the rest haven't played as a unit yet.
Yeah, let me go to that.
All right, I had to pull that,
I had to stand up for this too,
because you know, I got excited about this one.
Obviously, I'm not being biased. I actually have Chase and Higgins first four region.
Hell I played for the goddamn Bengals and they are phenomenal. Listen AJ
Brown and Devontae Smith they just won the Super Bowl. Yes. Now again they do
they oh my god how do I say this I and I don't mean to be rude I don't mean to
be rude. They don't throw the ball as much over in Philly as opposed to the Bengals, you know, you know
You know what I mean, but AJ Brown and Devontae Smith are one hell of a duo down there in Philly.
Jeddas and goddamn Jordan Addison. Boy, they had a hell of a season regardless of who the quarterback is.
Sam Thawne comes in there. JJ McCarthy gets hurt. They do what they do best. Phenomenal duo. Evan and Godwin, what more can I say? They did it with Tom
Brady and they did it with Baker Mayfield. And they're going to do it again this year.
Amon Rossaint Brown and J. Moe, nasty work. Nasty, nasty work. Now the only reason I have
Tyree Keeley and Waddle so low
and then the potations, I got quarterback injury.
They had, you know, obviously Tua got hurt
and everybody's numbers were affected by that.
Listen, I got London and Mooney, Mooney at seven.
Yeah, they are, Mooney, the rest,
the rest of them, they haven't played together.
I just look good because of the names that came together.
You're looking at DK and George Pickens.
You're looking at Devonte Adams and Pooka Nakua.
Yeah. I mean, listen, the names are good.
They just haven't played together.
So I need to give them a number.
You need to say something.
I'm just curious, Chad, you like my list.
Would you change it?
I mean, the order to me, I think it is good.
The way I have it. Yeah. I mean, the order to me, I think it is good the way I have it.
Yeah, I mean, look, I think the thing, first of all, I'm not so sure I'd change anything on Joe.
I'll have Chase and Higgins too, because Chase is the best receiver in football. Now, some people
might say, I don't know, it might be Jetta, but I think Chase right now is the number one. So,
I don't think anybody's going gonna say AJ is better than him
or Mike Evans, St. Brown, any of those guys.
I think Chase, I mean, the Triple Crown
validates what we know.
Right, right, right.
And then Higgins.
So OK, Higgins, Devontae, it's close.
But I think because Chase is number one,
I like that group.
I like AJ and Smitty.
Uh, uh, uh. is number one, I like that group. I like AJ and Smitty.
Me, sometimes I get a little perplexed and I'm like, damn, AJ, like, he won the Subo,
but he's like complaining about catches.
But I get it, but then again, I don't.
I gotta get it.
At this point in time, Mojo, I would not, not now.
After I won the sumo, it's all about celebration.
Right.
It's all about celebration.
Me, I have this conversation behind closed doors
with Jalen, with Jalen Hurts, the new OC, Sirianni.
I mean, Ojo, he is just like, that's just me.
Yeah, you know what I don't like, Unc?
This is the business side of things.
You talk about him not having a production, right?
Or him not getting the catches,
or him not having the yards that he should.
Because you know how they gonna play with him later?
You know what they gonna do to him?
They gonna come talk to him, right?
They gonna say, you know what?
Maybe a year or two from now,
now based on your salary and what you making,
and the numbers you putting up, it really ain't making no sense paying you this kind of money when your production ain't what it
should be. Look at your numbers. So they're using it against him so I understand what he's doing and
why he wants to argue the fact, well, I want the catches, I need the catches so the production
matches what my salary is. So the minute your production don't match what your salary is,
what's the first thing you wanna do?
They either wanna let you go
or they want you to take a pay cut.
Ocho, but you know you're going to jail and hurt,
you're not gonna have the numbers that Chase has.
Yeah, I know.
They got six quads back there.
Yeah, I know, I'm just saying, it's different.
Ocho, what receiver you know, got a 2,000 yard rusher
and they got a 100 catch receiver
and a 1,500 yard receiver with 15 touchdowns. When you got a 2,000 yard rusher and they got a 100 catch receiver and a 1,500 yard receiver with 15 touchdowns.
When you got a 2,000,
do you know how many cash you gotta get for 2,000 yards?
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Check this out.
Pre-agent quarterback, Mac Jones,
is signing with the 49ers with a two-hundred deal,
seven million dollars, with five million guaranteed.
Jones wanted the opportunity to work with the 49ers
head coach, Kyle Shanahan.
Will Kyle Shanahan be able, yes,
revive Mac Jones' career, yes.
Because for all intents and purposes, Ocho,
we thought that's where he was going,
and before they traded up to take Trey Lance.
I thought that would have been perfect.
Because you better tell me,
I believe he's just as athletic,
or I'm just as strong as Ron Pardee.
Hold on.
Because think about if you took Mac Jones
and where you were,
you'd have kept all those first-round picks.
You wouldn't have had to give up all of that.
But hey, I do think, I do think,
because I think Mac Jones was really good in his rookie
season. When he had an offensive head, when he had an offensive coordinator, Josh McDaniel in his ear,
some reason, some, for some unknown reason to me, like, oh, you know what? I think we're gonna put
two guys in his ear that's never called an offensive player in their life. I think that'll
work out okay, Ocho. And it was terrible.
It didn't.
They didn't.
But hold on.
I got a question.
Huh?
Something you just said when you said about him going to the 49 is about
reviving something about him playing the position of quarterback.
Now, if I'm not mistaken, they do have Brock Purdy, Brock Purdy, who commands
a 35, $40 million salary coming up soon.
Huh?
Yeah.
So exactly, exactly what part of
Revive in his quarterback career is Shanahan gonna do
He gonna get an opportunity to see how you do things and guess what? Maybe Brock Purdy say he don't want a play up Well, he don't want that
Cuz sometimes I gotta have I gotta get leverage on yocha. I gotta get leverage
Nah, you know ain't no leverage. Yeah, not with that
I mean not not when you command not when commit, when you getting ready to make that
kind of money.
Ain't no leverage.
Guess what?
Brett Barb didn't think they had no leverage either, did he?
Aaron Rodgers didn't think they had no leverage either, did they?
Now hold on.
Now you know how these teams work.
You know how these teams work.
You know how these teams work.
Oh yeah, yeah, I know, I know, I know.
I know. I know. I scenarios. Oh Joe, you know how these teams work.
Oh yeah, yeah, I know, I know, I know.
They always, oh Joe, they'll eat that money like, oh Joe, they'll eat dead money.
Think about the money that the Broncos, they paid Russell Wilson that $40 million.
Right.
Can I ask you a question?
Yes.
We saw a small sample size of Mac Jones, right?
Yes.
Patrice.
Yes.
We saw a small sample size of Mac Jones,
where was he last year?
Jacksonville.
At Jacksonville.
Mm-hmm.
So all of a sudden, just God, for some reason,
that he might be the answer
if things don't work out with Brock Purdy.
Yes.
Okay. I'm just, okay. I'm with you. I like, I like, I like, I like how you got that.
But what I like, if you think about it, Ocho, if you look at these guys that had resurgents,
look at a Sam Darnold, look at Geno Smith, it was a talent around them.
Round them. That'd be, yeah.
You know, all of a sudden he got DK.
He had Lockett.
He had Smith and Jigba.
Look at Sam Darnall.
He had Addison.
He had Hawkinson.
He had Jedha.
He had Jones in the backfield.
So now if I put complimentary pieces around him,
I'm not saying sometimes I gotta have an airboat.
Right.
I don't need that much water in order to get to where I need to get to, Ochoa.
Come on, there.
Now, if I'm on a pontoon, I need a lot of water, because that thing hit me.
I need some buoyancy.
So, I'm not saying that he's a guy that could elevate.
I'm saying maybe he needs a situation where guys need to elevate him.
Right.
Because if you look at him when he was in Alabama,
when he had waddle,
when he had Devontae,
when he had Metchi,
when he had Nigee in the backfield,
how did he look, old Joe?
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
Let's think about what they got over there with the 49ers.
Now, they don't have nothing like what you just named.
Now, they have some very, very, very good players.
Good players, yeah.
Branding Jennings, the real deal.
No, you mean IU?
No, I said, no, Branding Jennings.
Branding Jennings for where?
In a family?
40 liners.
Branding Jennings?
Yeah.
Branding Jennings, what position he play, Ocho? Receiving. Juwan Jennings, what position do you play, Ocho?
Receiving.
Juwan Jennings.
Oh, Juwan Jennings.
I'm Trevor.
You got me.
I'm the basketball player?
Yeah, I'm talking about Juwan Jennings.
Juwan Jennings.
You got, listen, who was talking about Brandon Jennings earlier?
P, Master P.
Okay, he's still got, yeah, Juwan Jennings nice.
Purcell came on, you know, last, now are you coming off of injury?
Yeah.
They still got a kiddo.
Oh, you still got a kiddo?
Coming back, we'll see how C-back can hold up.
I mean, listen, I think they're gonna be all right.
They still need that boy.
Yeah.
You know, I understand what I mean.
They still need that man, listen, that I, I love Juwan Jennings.
I love, you know, what they have.
They still need that, that, that doll.
Like, like Master P said, they still need that doll.
And I'm talking about from a receiver standpoint
can do, can do it all.
Ocho, check this out.
Daniel Jones signed with the Colts.
Reports sound like there may be a quarterback competition
between him and Anthony Richards.
Man, please.
Ocho, tell me the time you ever seen somebody sign a backup
for $14 million.
If they've tried a receiver, you making $5 million.
They paid the wide receiver that they brought in, $17 million.
What you, tell me what you thinking.
Yeah, I know what it is.
It's funny how they play that game. It's funny. It's funny how they play the game. What you mean
what game they playing? What you paying them? You saw what it was when he was in New York, right?
Yes. Okay, so you bring them in for a quarterback competition for what? But maybe it's a good thing.
Maybe this is a good thing, huh?
Maybe this is a good thing for Anthony Richardson.
You mean you tell me, you mean to tell me
you're gonna bring somebody in to beat me out in my spot
after you already saw what he was able to do?
Don't get me started.
I think it's a good thing for Anthony Richardson.
Maybe this will propel him,
not that he needs motivation anyway.
He doesn't need no motivation.
Not in the quarterback position you don't.
But this will get you in line real quick.
Because it sends a message.
We don't believe in you.
We don't think you're the long-term answer for our team.
They benched his ass last year.
That should have been a clear message right there.
I mean, but you know, they benched him for a specific reason.
We know a lot.
Let me ask you a question. Let me ask you a question.
Let me ask you a question.
If Tom Brady came out,
if Patrick Mahomes came out of the game,
they getting benched next game?
Absolutely not.
Thank you.
Tell me the backup player,
tell me the backup player in the NFL
that's making 14 million.
Any position, tell me the backup player
that's making $14 million.
It probably ain't none, huh
Exactly. So what that cake? Yeah, and that's that's crazy. How they play that's that's great. Oh, they they Jones got got some uh,
Got you got some dirt or somebody on somebody else. I he by he by have a he by have a table
Somebody would go ain't no telling hey
Well 14 Well one year two year somebody else? He might have a tape or somebody would have go ain't no telling. Hey What 14?
Well one year two year
One year. God
Yes, yeah, he knows something. He probably know what he probably know where they got Jimmy Hoff at, boy
Yeah
Damn, so it's uh, you're right, Ochoa Mea.
This is a clear indication.
I don't know when the coaches talk or when the organization talk, if Anthony Richardson
was listening.
They got his undivided attention now.
They got his undivided attention, Ochoa.
Undivided.
Ochoa!
Ochoa! Rogers was released by the Jets today.
Negotiations are ongoing between the Steelers and Rogers.
Here's what Mike Floreo is reporting.
The ball is reportedly in Aaron Rogers' court.
The Steelers are simply waiting for a decision from Rogers.
Regardless, it's tempting to think that Rogers, who not long ago was potentially out of options,
has found a way to make it all about himself again.
In just two, in two weeks, Rogers has gone from the guy
who has the reach out to the giants,
to a guy who has options.
Whether he's doing it on purpose or just doing what he does,
he's become the center of the NFL's attention
for maybe one last time.
We're focused on him.
We're talking about him. We're talking about him.
We're not.
As long as the Steelers don't move on
to another veteran quarterback, he can take his time.
At some point, however, they'll need an answer.
And when he gives them one, he'll likely complain
about all the attention that he's handling
of the situation naturally generated.
Look, Ocho, you and I weren't talking about it.
No. We were talking about the people that had gotten signed.
Right. We talked about like, it was a possibility that he was
going to get released. They made a statement like, look, this is
what we want you to do. The judge said they released a statement,
said, no, we're moving on. They thanked him for the two years
that he was there, blah, blah, blah. But after the day, if he
ain't signed,
ain't no more Rogers talk.
Yeah.
Not for me.
Now maybe you wanna bring up,
hey, let's talk about this right here.
Okay, fine.
But until he signs,
Right.
I don't really know about.
There really is no joke.
Right.
And I have a question.
Yes sir.
What other veteran quarterbacks are out there right now
outside of Aaron Rodgers? Russell Wilson.
Okay, Russell Wilson to go back.
I think Russell Wilson is visiting the New York Giants
and the Cleveland Browns, if I'm not mistaken.
Outside of Russell Wilson, who else is out there?
So is that it?
I think that's pretty much it, Ocho.
Yeah, so I mean, Aaron Rodgers is-
Cousins, it seems like cousins could be available
via trade, but nobody's trading
because he got that money guaranteed.
Now y'all release him, y'all pay that money,
and then we'll pick him up at minimum.
Ah, I see, I got you.
But I ain't trying to take on somebody
that got guaranteed money, I ain't trying to pay that.
Yeah.
Y'all, hey, I'm not finna bail you guys out
for your bad decision.
You made that decision.
I told you, Ocho, last year, I said,
Ocho, it doesn't make sense.
I said, at his absolute best, he's got two years.
I said, Ocho, if you sign him and he got one,
you stuck.
You stuck like with a bad song on an elevator.
And damn, you gotta go to the top and it's stopping at every floor in between
Chat y'all know what I say. Oh Joe. I said I get I get what you said
Oh Joe is to the other young guy comes along. I said, but oh Joe
Yeah, hey this kind of money and could potentially only be a one-year deal
You got a hundred million fully guaranteed
on a hundred and eighty million dollar contract and only be a one-year deal. You got $100 million fully guaranteed
on a $180 million contract.
And lo and behold, he really didn't make it
through the whole year.
Right.
I just, you know, I'm like, man.
That's crazy.
Well, listen, Aaron Rodgers is in a good place.
He's in a good place.
Oh, James Whiskers is available also.
Okay, I can see that. I can see the move.
I can see that move.
I can see that.
What about Flacco?
Isn't Flacco available too?
Flacco is available too.
Because Flacco was in Indy last year.
And if he was still there,
there would be no need to sign Daniel Jones.
In fact, if today signed Daniel Jones
Probably let's be gives me the indication that black who is also a free agent could flacco circle back and be in Cleveland. Sure
I like that. Could he be a play? Could he be a play in?
the Giants
So that's crazy man that I think about it I'm trying to figure out who fits what and who fits where.
But listen, with guy-
Well, Gardner, Gardner Mitchell just got released also.
Yep.
Man, listen, with DK and Pickens, well, you get a gunslinger now.
Boy, you can make some magic, boy.
They let Najee Harris go.
Yeah, I think he signed with the Chargers.
Okay, yeah, he did go with the Chargers.
Hey, Mike Williams just signed back with the Chargers, too,
on a one-year.
Did he?
Yeah, he went back.
Yeah, he went back.
Okay, but if you think about it,
if you go back and look at Pittsburgh,
their last first rounders,
they haven't gotten a second contract
All the first round they declined a fifth-year option I
Think it's like the last four I saw I saw this in the paper today
They ain't paying paying out on uh
I think Bush you remember Bush the linebacker, that guy I think he from Michigan?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Your dad played at Florida State?
Devin, not Devin, Devin Bush, yeah.
Yeah.
No?
I think that might have been his dad.
That might have been him, though.
Uh, but you know, they declined his fifth year option.
So, yes, Ash, I read the newspaper today.
I got the USA Today at the hotel.
I got the USA Today at the hotel today.
So that's what George said, the same thing.
Oh, you read newspapers?
I like, damn, you think it seems like I can't read or something?
I can look at the pictures and fool them.
But yeah, it was, it's going to be interesting to see.
I'm ready to see what he's saying.
I'm ready to see at this,
with this legal hampering period,
we kinda got an indication before,
cause you know what I'm saying, such and such going on.
But now we kinda know.
So now, now we just shift your focus like, okay,
draft who's going where, what's gonna be done,
are there gonna be any more moves,
are there any more moves to be made?
Yeah, I'm excited.
I'm excited for that draft.
What you got, what you got one, two, and three?
What you think?
Honestly, Ocho, this is might be the,
I have no idea. I mean mean people say Abdul Carter people say cam
hmm, the only I mean I
Mean people are kind of like cool. I mean now I mean I see I see reports
Should do it might slide out of the top 10. He might slide
Down way down. He might even slide out of the first mile like with Daniel
I just don't what I don't understand, Ocho, how can a guy move up or down and a guy ain't played football
in three months?
It's all on, it's all on team needs and then the needs of the team that are picking in
the first five, they need a quarterback.
There's more than one, there are more than three teams in the first five
to six picks that need quarterbacks. They're not going to play that game. Just out of
spite. Just out of spite. No, they're not going to play that game.
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