Club Shay Shay - Nightcap Hour 2: Dillon Brooks KEEPS POKING LeBron + Kevin Durant REFLECTS on his INJURIES + Bud Crawford RETIRES from BOXING

Episode Date: December 18, 2025

Shannon Sharpe, Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson and Iso Joe Johnson react Puka Nacua criticizing the referees saying they are just humans too, Dillon Brooks takes more shots at Lebron after he wa...s ejected in the Suns Lakers game, and Kevin Durant talks about if he would of played if he knew he had a chance to tear his achilles and much more! Subscribe to Nightcap presented by PrizePicks so you don’t miss out on any new drops! Download the PrizePicks app today and use code SHANNON to get $50 in lineups after you play your first $5 lineup! Visit https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/NI... 0:00 - Puka Nacua comments on NFL officiating2:53 - Dillon Brooks calls out LeBron James16:23 - Kevin Durant on his 2019 Achilles injury35:17 - Bud Crawford retires45:23 - Average Penis Size Study56:37 - Play or Fade with PrizePicks1:01:03 - Q & Aaayyyyyy (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:34 podcast. Wasabi Hot Cloud Storage, store more and do more with your data. Try them for free at wasabi.com. Pooka Naku up, maybe soon hearing from the league office, Puka recently made critical comments about the NFL game officials during a live stream saying, the reps are the worst. These guys are lawyers. They want to be on TV too. So you don't think he's texting his friend in the group chat like, yo, guys, you just saw
Starting point is 00:02:58 me on Sunday night football like, That wasn't PI, but I called it. I mean, these guys are normal human beings, too. So basically he said guys sometimes throw flags because they want to be on TV. They want their friends to see them just like, hey, hey, we ain't ever been on TV. Hey, I'm from Nevada State. Hell, I know everybody in Glenville watching. I know everybody in the surrounding counties watching.
Starting point is 00:03:20 I know Savannah State watching. Okay, I want to do something good. Well, an official, if you don't throw no flag on, Joe, how are you going to get on TV? Yeah, that is true. And I have a question, too. This is a, when you do anything, something outside of NFL media, are you, can you still be fine for it? No, no, no, you can't, you can't, if you're a, a, a, a player in a league, you can't criticize the officiating. If you're an active player, right, see, I, you know what, I don't know that.
Starting point is 00:03:51 I didn't know that in, yeah, now, I didn't know that. Now, now going on a separate, a separate site that had nothing to it, media, but the NFL media. But he said it publicly. Yeah. Okay. He said that to you, Ocho, and you and him, man, man, you don't need to fish, man. They, they, they're some cheeks.
Starting point is 00:04:09 Man, they'd be throwing a bull, okay. But you can't say it on a street, a stream is a public platform, Ocho. Yeah, I, I, I know that. That'll be, that'll be just like you're going on a podcast. You're an active player and you go on a podcast and criticize the officiating. You'll get that letter from, you'll get that letter from Park Avenue. new. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:27 That's crazy. So, yeah, Pooker, it's going to probably cost you a month with 25, 25K, 30, 40, 50. Yeah, well, you know, first, first offense, first offense, 12, five. What's, what's a, what's a criticized, a critic to criticize official? It's probably 25, Ocho.
Starting point is 00:04:47 That's a whole lot for a first offense, don't, you got, then you don't get no warning. They got to hit you one. You're warning 25,000. The next is going to probably be 50 or 100. That's the warning. The warning is not shooting over your head. The warning is shooting your n' ass.
Starting point is 00:05:05 You're lucky at it shoot you in your head. Yeah, you're right. 25, Ocho. Okay, you was right. Okay. First offense, 25. Ocho, Joe, this is right up your alley. Dylan Brooks was simultaneously regretful
Starting point is 00:05:17 that he could not finish Sunday's game against the Lakers after an objection and also critical of both certain calls and LeBron James. Here's what Dylan had to say about LeBron today, Ocho and Joe. I guess he's a social media junkie, all over the social. So he'd be saying, I guess what I'm saying, and when I go out there and he thinks, like I told you,
Starting point is 00:05:38 he thinks that people should think away about him, not say nothing about him or is, you know, play a certain way. And I'm not going to play that way. So he gets in his moods or in his modes or whatever it is, and I'm all for that. I wish we let him shoot that shot and now she would have been an air ball. Hey, well, hey, Joe,
Starting point is 00:06:01 hey, Joe, you know better than me. Uncle, you probably know better than me, too. I mean, what's what, they have animosity and they've been having animosity for a very long time. Hey, them two always going at it. You're kind of one-sided with the animosity, though. Go ahead, Joe.
Starting point is 00:06:15 Yeah, yeah. That's what I'm going to say. It's more like Dylan, Dylan's more to agitator, Ocho. Yeah. But the agitator. has added something to his game. It ain't just defense and agitate you
Starting point is 00:06:27 and try to get you out your game. He's putting the numbers up this year offensively. He's getting to it. He's getting to the chicken Ocho. He ain't playing. He's putting that ball in the hole, man. And on top of that, you know, the way he plays, you know, he's such an emotional defensive player. And he knows
Starting point is 00:06:43 when he played LeBron, he know how great LeBron is, but he's going to bring it to him, meaning like, he's going to be, he's going to dictate how physical this game is going to be. Right, right, right. Brian is going to be, I respect, I respect how he play and obviously how he get down.
Starting point is 00:06:58 He's added, like I said, an offensive package to his game. He's a threat now. Yeah, he's the defense guy though, right, Joe? Yeah, but he had an offense. Yeah. You know, look, he, see, he keeps talking about social media, but he reads because the knock on LeBron that he was fragile mentally. And so what did guys try to do?
Starting point is 00:07:15 What did Lance Stevenson try to do? He was blowing in his ear. He was grabbing his jersey. He was doing all those things to agitate him, kind of like Allah, or Dennis Rodman. So that's what he's trying to do because he knows if he just goes in there
Starting point is 00:07:28 and just says, okay, I'm going to D you up. That's not going to happen. I've got to do something to get you off your game. Like you and I, Ocho, hey, we're talking. That talking ain't just for us, it's to agitate you. The whole game. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:40 I got something for it. Yeah. Okay. But you don't got Ocho. You're supposed to be in the flat, but don't worry about it. Come on run down the field with me. We dumped it to the back.
Starting point is 00:07:48 You're chasing behind you. And you think you got me covered. Bro, you don't see that back. We just picked up 20, thanks to you, dumb, dumb. So that's what, you know, Dylan is saying. He says he liked to poke the bear. You remember he was in Memphis show? And Bronn dropped 40 on the show.
Starting point is 00:08:02 I ain't got no respect for him until he dropped 40. And what did LeBron do to his ass in the next game? Drop 40 on his head and send him packing. See, he's catching LeBron. See, he's catching LeBron in your 19, 20, 21, 22. LeBron would have dropped 35 in the series on it if he'd have caught him in year 1 through 15. But he catches LeBron on the tail end.
Starting point is 00:08:28 And LeBron still gave him 26. What are you talking about? LeBron gave you 26 at 40. Hey, hey. The one thing I respect, though, Uncle Ocho, about Brooks, is that he don't do this just against LeBron. he does this against everybody everybody everybody he played you got somebody on your team
Starting point is 00:08:52 who's supposed to be like that he's going to agitate he going to be in their face he's going to do them extra little bumps uncle ocho you know you might just be running down the court he might just give you a little shoulder yeah right and that's how he plays man that's that's that's part of his game he's an agitated um you know yeah you know when they wait he he's trying to guard the best The opposing team's best player. If they play an OKC, he won't shake. If they're playing when Luca was in Dallas, he's going to try to deal up with Luca.
Starting point is 00:09:25 You know, he's going to try to try to guard Jason Tatum. He's going to try, he prized himself on being a defensive guy, and so he's going to try to take their best player. Hold on. He undersized, though. So he basically like Draymond Green. He's shorter than Draymond. Draymond, 6.6.
Starting point is 00:09:40 I mean, Dylan Brooks, how tall Dylan Brooks? Like 6'4, Joe? Yeah, he's about six, five. Yeah, he's strong, he's strong, Ocho. Yeah, yeah, he, he, he playing, he, he ain't, oh, Joe, he playing with a lot of confidence. And like I said, man, his job is to take that challenge. He's six, seven, Joe, for the opposing team. Yeah, I thought, I didn't think he was, I didn't know he was that tall.
Starting point is 00:10:05 Yeah, he, he takes, he taking a challenge every game. It don't matter who they play. Yeah, he takes so respect to him. I know, I know, I know, I don't like him getting off in LaBron. They don't bother me because LeBron, LeBron be cooking him. Because you know what? You know what it does, do it makes LeBron go to another level,
Starting point is 00:10:22 whether he admits it or not. He know he has to lock in a lot harder when he played against him. Like, this joke out here on this BS, I got to go on and get to it. But locking in, but also, Ochoa, I'm going to let you finish a point, but locking in without getting outside of himself. Because it's either one time you saw what he did.
Starting point is 00:10:37 Hey, man, he ran slapover, Dylan Brooks. Hey, look, because he can only take so much after Dylan Brooks to break the ball, hit him in his head. Yeah. And he'll walk by him and the shoulder checked him. He's like, all right. Enough is enough. Enough is enough.
Starting point is 00:10:54 Yeah. And see, the thing is that LeBron let a lot of that stuff go, go for too long. And so now people, now they're trying. I mean, he don't tell in now. He don't even care. And he's like, LeBron would always say, Look, if I get thrown out and he gets thrown out, who loses? Right.
Starting point is 00:11:15 My team. If I get the toss from a game, unless it's me and Katie or me and Steff Curry or me and Luca, it doesn't make sense. Right. The tradeoff ain't equal. And so he always has to be mindful of that. They ain't tossing, I mean, football, we ain't talking. We're talking.
Starting point is 00:11:36 They ain't going to toss nobody unless, you know, a, you know, cheap shot. He had or something like that other than that. But for the most part, we're talking on today. And nobody goes, all right, guys, cut it out. No, tell his to cut it out. But look, he's added, I think the thing is, when he was at Memphis, they say, look, we want you to defend.
Starting point is 00:11:57 We got guys that can score. John and Jaron Jackson, you score. When he's in Houston, still they had Schengoon, they had Van Fleet, they had Tom, he was still like the fourth option now Dillon Brooke and so basically it's him and in book yeah yeah so he's getting opportunity to shoot the ball he's not being told now I don't shoot that shot now we that's not what we want you to do we don't want you to stand in the corner oh at plus and they had Desmond Bain so now he's the fourth
Starting point is 00:12:32 option you got job Bain and Jared Jackson he's the fourth option on every night He's the fourth option. He goes to Houston. Very similar situation. They got KD. Well, he didn't play with KD. They got Shingoon. They got Thompson.
Starting point is 00:12:51 I'm in Thompson. They got Van Fleet. Yeah. So guess what, Joe? And the kid, the kid they traded to Phoenix. Oh, Jalen Green. Yeah, Jalen Green. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:01 He's been hurt. He's been hurt out of year. And D. Book has been hurt a little bit this year. And he just kind of, he stepped into their the role just, all right, I'm going to come out and get to it. And so, and they got this, I forget this kid's name, but he's been bawling, uh, the white kid from, uh, from Phoenix. Yeah, uh, I know you're talking about.
Starting point is 00:13:22 I watched him play against Minnesota. Yeah, man, he's been, he's been, he's been bawling. But, you know, a lot of these guys sometimes you have to have guys that play a role. And there are a lot of, like, and I told people this, I say, man, look, Austin Reeves on a bad team, Austin Reeves could average 25 points. man, he can't, I say, look what he's doing. He's playing as the third option with Anthony Davis and LeBron James, and he's giving you 20.
Starting point is 00:13:45 You mean to tell me if he's not the first or second option, like what he is right now, look at what he's doing. When LeBron and Lucas out, 44, 34, 38, 45, 40. Hey, he nice. Yes. So he has to, so like when you play on a quality team, and if you are a score, you have to suppress your natural instincts,
Starting point is 00:14:07 to go score because that's not what they need you for the particular time. Colin Gillespie, yes, yes, yes. Gillespie, yes. Man, he'd been letting it fly. Sometimes you need the opportunity. That's it. That's it.
Starting point is 00:14:26 And so, yeah, Dylan Brooks, hey, he plays hard. He plays, he plays hard. Now he has the game offensively, and maybe he always had it was just never allowed to show it. You know, sometimes, you know, people have things and they're not allowed to show it. Now he gets an opportunity to show like,
Starting point is 00:14:49 okay, you can shoot that shot. Yeah, and getting a little more comfortable out there. You know, knowing his way around the court and his confidence just, it's oozing on the offensive. Yeah. Like, he's looking, he's looking to be aggressive. He's looking to get. Yeah, he's looking to score, so it's been amazing watch.
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Starting point is 00:15:30 Come on, Hoteau. Well, I fell out on the floor. That boy would have to fill out on the floor. That boy would have to do that thing. But, uh, nah, but look, this is, uh, everything, everything with LeBron is always, you try to get physical. Um, you see, that's what guys try to do. They try to play in physical, try to beat him to the point. not let him get comfortable.
Starting point is 00:16:03 Definitely don't let him elevate. Make him settle. He wants to shoot threes. He wants to shoot turnaround jumpers. You got to live with that. Because if he's hitting three, then turn around jumpers, you got no chance.
Starting point is 00:16:14 Because if you hug up, he's going by you. He still has the ability to get by you. Now, he can't get by you with the ease that he once could, and he can't drive continuously like he once could
Starting point is 00:16:25 because it takes a lot out of it. But if he's hitting that three, if he got that three ball, Ocho, and we saw in Philly, When he hit 10 straight points to close that game, you're just like, oh, Lord, it's just one of those not happening. I don't know what y'all want me to do. Yeah, nah, if he's making that jump shot, Uncle Ocho.
Starting point is 00:16:43 Yeah. Mid-range? Three mid-rate don't matter. Like, it's going to be hard to guard him. You're just going to have to live with the results. Yeah, because if you hug up on him, he's going by you. Oh, yeah. He's still, he's still capable of doing that.
Starting point is 00:16:58 But, you know, I ain't got a, I like, I like Dylan Brooks game. I like his game. Yeah. And now that he has offense to go at that defense, because I'm like, bro, you're doing a lot of talking just to be a defensive guy. And people don't come to see defensive guys, so you have to, you have to do something. You have to pull a Dennis Robben. You got to paint your hair. You have to wear a wedding dress.
Starting point is 00:17:17 You have to do something. If you want to get attention like Dennis Roblin, you got to have a niche. Yeah, Dan, Dan was that boy, boy. Yeah. I mean, Dennis, Dennis Robben, six, seven, and led the league and rebounded like eight, nine times. nine times. Didn't Robert ever 18 rebounds a game. That's yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:36 Crazy. That's all you're thinking about. If you, if you ever had an 18 rebounds again, that's the only thing you think about. When the ball go up, you're trying to figure out. How can I get? Yeah. Didn't Robben would have 20 plus rebounds and no points. Hey, and knowing exactly where the ball goes bounce,
Starting point is 00:17:51 understanding where that ball hit and knowing where it's- Yeah, he told the story that he would just watch, he would just watch people shoot. He's just like, stand up on the rim and just watch and see what the ball would hit, okay, it's going there, okay, hit that, go in there, okay, hit that, go in there. It's like, okay, shoot a three, okay, boom. So he can tell, like, where the ball's going to go.
Starting point is 00:18:11 And he, hey, he's going to get it. That's what he's going to do. He's going to get it. But Dylan Brooks, man, you definitely have to improve your game. And you were right. He said, hey, people that believe in me and telling me not to shoot, I got somebody tell me to shoot the ball. And I don't have to worry about if I shoot, you know,
Starting point is 00:18:27 they shoot the ball two times in a row. They're going to take me out of the game. and you can tell you can tell it guys that he's playing with confidence the team believes in him um and because when book was out he and gillespie they were still you know uh and uh gracian allan so bra so he got something for you when you come to uh l ato he's gonna be ready kevin ran says if he would have been told he could tear the achilles in the 2019 finals he probably wouldn't have went out there let's take a listen to what KD on Fairbant Fleets' new podcast, what he actually said.
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Starting point is 00:22:52 running it right and running into the end zone. Touchdown! It's never too late to turn your fantasy season or Subscribe to the NFL fantasy football podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Did you know that there was a possibility that that could happen going into the game? Like Tyrese said, Tyrese Halliburton said he kind of knew like it was a chance. It was game seven. He got to try.
Starting point is 00:23:18 Did you have that feeling before or you felt good? No, no, I mean, Achilles were a thing, you know, like Kobe had one, but it wasn't a lot of Achilles injuries around that. time when you're thinking about it so it wasn't really like I wasn't really thinking about you know I'm saying that you know cat muscle can lead into that so I was just like I felt good I can run up and down the core I can go I can slide laterally yeah but looking back on it obviously I wasn't my my Achilles wasn't ready for that type of load right you know what I'm saying but I wouldn't I mean I was I was I was I was I was
Starting point is 00:23:58 I don't regret going out there and playing. If I were to knew that information, I probably made a better, different decision. Yeah, it's game five. You kind of got to do that. You know, not if they would have told you. If they had told me, like, you can tell your Achilles,
Starting point is 00:24:12 I probably wouldn't have went out there. That wasn't even in the thought process. Like, I didn't even, nobody really even made me aware of that. Joe, he right. You don't think, you don't think the worst. before you go out there. But with them soft tissue injuries,
Starting point is 00:24:32 man, it's like, you know, they kind of shut you down to a degree. You don't really practice. You don't really do much, and they kind of save you for the game, Uncle Ocho. But the game going at 200 miles power, I ain't even, you know what I'm saying? So when you have to play at that pace
Starting point is 00:24:47 and you ain't accustomed to playing at that pace, due to injury, like, at some point, some is bound to kind of give. So I kind of see how it all kind of, you know, goes hand to hand. Yeah, and a lot of times you can see it. J.T., you see that Caval, you see that thing, Ripple. When they show it down, you saw KD.,
Starting point is 00:25:08 you see that thing like a guitar string, just snap. Jason Tatum, you see it just snap. Somebody in football did theirs this year, and you can see it ripple. Look. Had they told me like, Shannon, Like concussions now, Ocho, they know way more now than what we did. CTE wasn't no thing.
Starting point is 00:25:38 Well, they didn't even call a concussion. Oh, you got your bell rung. You got dinged. Yeah. They didn't even call a concussion. And so had they told me that, Shanna, you know, there's a long-term effect, Mayor Porter got to live today. I worry about me tomorrow.
Starting point is 00:25:58 she got to eat she got to have a roof over her head i'm going out there just the way it is you guys ask players now all the players even though a lot of them got artificial hips and artificial knees and artificial shoulders and artificial ankles they'll do it again all of them say they do it again do it again yeah they do it again yep much time into it from since you was a little kid man and to get to this point it's hard to have a major injury and then just turn your back and be allowed you're going you're going to lease because there's no guarantee yo Ocho that I wouldn't have to have my there are people that never play football that got artificial hips got artificial needs so what's the so can you guarantee
Starting point is 00:26:49 me that if I don't play football that I'm never that I'm not going to have CTE can you guarantee me that I'm not going to have my knees and my hips replaced my shirt? shoulder, my ankle. Can you guarantee that? Because if you can't help you, I'm going to go get this bread. I'm just keeping the real with you. Right. No, for real. Right, right, right. And, yeah, yeah, I know
Starting point is 00:27:14 some of this stuff probably had to do with me playing football, my hips and stuff, but I can't say that. Because guess what? My sister got both of her hips replaced. She ain't played no damn football. My brother got his replaced. My brother had his hips replacing with these in his 30s. He only played seven years I got both
Starting point is 00:27:32 of my own place I was in my late 40s early 50s so it is what it is it got me it got it was able
Starting point is 00:27:43 what it was able to do for my family is probably something that my brother and I don't know maybe hey I think I'd have been a very successful lawyer
Starting point is 00:27:51 had I chosen that path but my heart wasn't my passion and my heart Joe and Ocho, my heart and passion was a professional football player. Same.
Starting point is 00:28:03 That's what I wanted to do. I feel that's what God, that was God what chose me when he touched me, said, Pete and Alice, that boy, they're going to be a football player. I got a question for a real. When did y'all know that y'all had a real, real shot?
Starting point is 00:28:28 at making it to the NFL. Ooh. Santa Monica Junior College. It took me to get to Santa Monica Junior College, and I met a coach by the name of Charles Collins. And Charles Collins told me, if you keep working the way you're working, and you pay attention to what I'm teaching you and practice,
Starting point is 00:28:53 you got a real shot. He got me to understand I had a real shot. And so working with him and then I'm seeing the results of the work we're putting in show up, you know, in games. Yeah. Like, oh, I got a shot. And this is when I was, you know, I was in junior college, Uncle Joe, with Steve Smith, senior. Yeah. We on the same team, you know, and I'm seeing the results show up.
Starting point is 00:29:17 And then I got excited and I had become fascinated and enthusiastic about working out. Yeah. And all the stuff he was showing me. And once I got the Oregon State and realized, I got. I can play, you know, at what I'd like to consider the highest level, you know, the Pack 10 back then, Pac-12 back then. I was like, oh, this is it. And, you know, Joe, I was one-for-one, Joe.
Starting point is 00:29:38 I was one-for-one. So I had no choice but to show up, you know, while I was there. Joe, I got to that Pack-12, Joe, and cut up every week against the best, you know, the Oregon Ducks and USC and Washington State. And at that moment, once I got the Oregon State and said, okay, you know what, I can do this. Then that confidence started kicking in. It's just like anything, Joe, you was always better than everybody else.
Starting point is 00:30:09 You was always better. You know, high school and the surrounding area, you was always the best. When Coach Davis came to recruit me, he said, son, you can play in the NFL. But I'm saying to myself, you're just telling me that because you want me to come to Savannah State. And he saw the look that I gave him. He said, no, son.
Starting point is 00:30:27 I've coached guys that go to the NFL, and you got more talent than they got. And sitting in my house, you know, I was embarrassed, the screen door hanging, you know, the chair, you know, we got bricks to hold a chair so it doesn't, you know, doesn't lean. And, you know, he just said, son, you can play in the NFL. And my softball.
Starting point is 00:30:56 year, because I started like five, six games, you know, my freshman year, me and a dude named Squirrel who ended up being the ex-receiver. I was the Z. My sophomore year, we alternated. But my sophomore year, I made All-American. I was Black College All-American. I was offensive player, the conference player of the year, offensive player of the year, Georgia player the year.
Starting point is 00:31:16 And I just, and we go to the Black College All-American Banquet, but back then they had a freedom mode. So the black colleges had a game where Scouts would come to it. just like it was just like the blue gray game or just like the schlinger bow but it was black college yeah and coach davis it was coach davis who was my coach willie jeffreth who was the head coach at uh i think south carolina state uh w c gordon coach w c gordon who was jackson state uh coach rob from grambling uh the guy from uh archie coolly from mississippi valley state and he's like and all them guys so i was the only sophomore
Starting point is 00:31:56 Everybody else was the most of the game. I think I was the only sophomore. I think they had like two, maybe one, two juniors and the rest were senior. But I was the only sophomore. And Coach Davis said, and everybody was talking about their guys that was in the game,
Starting point is 00:32:09 going to be playing. Coach Davis said, I got the baddest in here. And he's a sophomore. I promise you, you'll see this boy playing on, you know, back there, them over there,
Starting point is 00:32:19 they called, you'll see this boy playing on Sundays. Yeah, yeah. And that's when I read, that's when I, like, okay. it really does like, okay, I can do this. But by that time, my brother, getting all this attention,
Starting point is 00:32:33 I always wanted to be like my brother. And so when that, you're like, man, your brother could be a first round pick. I like, he's going to the NFL, I can go to the NFL. I can go to the NFL. He drank that, he drunk out the well just like I did. He went to go to the bathroom in the woods just like I did. He ate squirrel and turtle and all that stuff just like I did.
Starting point is 00:32:54 So for me, Man, please. And I had an opportunity to transfer after my, after my sophomore year. Coach Davis says, son, we're not in the business to put, to have, you know, develop kids to go to another college. He said, but I'm not going to stand in your way. He said, but son, you good enough, they'll find you. That's all I need to hear.
Starting point is 00:33:17 I walked out, never crossed my mind again. I told my brother, my brother said, well, they didn't want you. When you're coming out of high school, why do you want to go there now? See, they want you, you already, you're, you're a finished product. Yeah, right. They want you now, but they didn't want you then. So, and then I got there, but I was like, man, but hold on. And then I saw like, Walter Payton had went to black college, Jerry Rice had gone to a black college.
Starting point is 00:33:41 I was like, the hell, you say, I can't go from here. Yeah. Now, nobody had, I mean, we had a guy named Bobby Curtis, he was a senior, my freshman year. He ended up making the, he was up with, when they had the strike in 87, they, they, called him up he ended up getting a Super Bowl ring and everything and I was like yeah I can play I can play the NFL that's what I and then you know playing guys that we played uh Central Florida and they had a wide receiver see I'm like most people tell me what tell me my competition and I'll rise to the occasion right
Starting point is 00:34:16 right they had a ride receiver they told me he was rated very high I said I'm better to him. I'm better than him. Okay, I'm a show it. He was a senior. I was a junior. I was a sophomore. Cooked them.
Starting point is 00:34:31 They beat us, but I beat them. Sometimes you got to win you. Sometimes you got to win your individual battle, Ocho. I'm sorry, I'm one person. I ain't 21 other people.
Starting point is 00:34:41 Right. But it's hard to say that, hey, did I lose a couple? Yeah, they got me a couple of times. But more times than not, out of 40, how many games I play? Out of 40 total games, I'm probably about 37 and 3.
Starting point is 00:34:55 Mm. Oh, yeah. And that's because I ain't getting no touchdown. You know what I'm saying? Because I caught a pass in like 39 straight games, had a touchdown in 21 straight games. Oh, yeah, I'm cooking. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:08 I don't see the look behind your guy. You're like, damn, oh, you're dead. Yeah. I see, are you, listen, you was out there doing what you need to do now. I ain't going to lie. I ain't going to lie to. Oh, yeah. And so, but I had to, Joe.
Starting point is 00:35:20 man them circumstances man that's all like me and my brothers you talk about all the time man that house growing up I mean you see that man I was just like like I said I never had anybody I've never had I've never spent the night at someone's house growing up
Starting point is 00:35:38 never I've never had someone outside and my cousin would spend the night over to the house but they were in the same situation we were in they had no running water either yeah they have no plummet either so what they go what they're going to make fun about. So I was like, I had to. I had to, man. Like I said,
Starting point is 00:35:56 I was in Glenville. My body was in Glenville. My mind was a thousand miles away, guys. I said, it's calling me. I said, I noticed something out here better than Shannon Sharp. And then Ocho, I saw Miami Vice. I saw Masachi, I saw linen pants, I saw silk shirts,
Starting point is 00:36:14 I saw Rolexes, I saw Ferrari. I said, that's it. Yeah. That's it. That's it. That's it. I got the habit. And then you know what used to come on every Saturday, uh,
Starting point is 00:36:27 Ocho and Joe? Lifestyle of the rich and famous. And I'm your host, Robin Luke. Yes, sir. What do you know about that? Champagne, which is and caviar dreams. A life of luxury.
Starting point is 00:36:39 Boy. That's classic. Man, they're talking about Radeo drive. I never heard of no Rodeo drive. Hey, I call it rodeo. Rodeo drive. That's where I'm going. I say, I got that.
Starting point is 00:36:50 I had had it. Yeah. I remember them days. My brother, brother went to the league and I saw what, you know, he got a, my brother got his first car,
Starting point is 00:37:00 he got an M3. I was like, man. I said, man, I show wish I could drive it. He left. Left it with me. Two weeks. I got license the first.
Starting point is 00:37:16 I had license. Then I was 88. Yeah, because he got it. I had just got license. I had, I got license because Coach all wouldn't let me graduate. He was my driver's head coach.
Starting point is 00:37:23 My high school coach was my driver's head coach. He was also my mom's coach. So my high school coach was my mom coach. My mom graduated in 60. I graduated 86, so he still was coaching. So, and then I got to Savannah State, Ocho. So I had the Z, remember I told you I had the Z that I let my girl drive. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:44 And then he would come back. I would drive to South Carolina. I would drive back a Strosic Porsche. I drive a slant nose back. I drive a big body bends back. He had a tight. Man, you couldn't hit me in the ass with a red out for him, Joe. Joe, how are you, boy, you couldn't tell me nothing.
Starting point is 00:38:03 You gave, tell me I ain't, tell me I ain't it. You better not tell me a Shanna Sharp ain't it because I'm it. And you were cutting up back then, I? What? I said, I got to have, but see, let me tell you how my brother knows me. He knows what motivates me. me. Hey, hey, man, won't you come up? I called him, because I stayed in the dorm. Now, I could have stayed off campus,
Starting point is 00:38:27 but I, well, I'm going to stay off campus. And that money that he's sending me, I'm going to pay for rent and got to buy groceries. Right. No, I'm going to stay by asking this little ass dorm, eat free and keep that money in my pocket. So he would call me, he would call me guy, I would call him on the phone. Hey, man, what you do? I said, man, I ain't doing nothing. Man, you ought to come on up here and get one of the cars. Oh, I ain't even got no stick, but it sounds like a stick. Ooh.
Starting point is 00:38:56 Hey, you were gone, huh? Man, I'm gone. Man, you mean to tell me, I got an opportunity to drive a $150,000 on a Porsche at an HBCU? Oh, yeah. I got a, he got a white slant nose, a porch with Navy interior. Huh? That was a boy showing out down now. man please how it boy man be a be it oh buck oh bucket but of the time so that's it that's what
Starting point is 00:39:30 i knew joe but i knew i really really knew joe my sophomore year 1987 that's what i knew i said okay yeah i was like damn because no receiver in savannah state history had ever had a thousand yards nobody had ever been playing conference player the year i was conference player the year i was offensive player of the year. I was first team black college All-American. I made Kodak All-American. And Kodak, they used to send you a camera that had Kodak All-American on it. My sister still got it.
Starting point is 00:39:59 Still got the camera. I don't know, did it? I don't even know if they still made. I ain't seen nobody take a picture with a regular camera in so long. But it was a little, little camera like this and they got Kodak All-American on the back. But 1987, I knew, Joe. I knew. But I knew I had
Starting point is 00:40:15 to go before then, because I saw Mary Porter the surroundings. I see how I grow up. And I was like, nah, this ain't it. Yeah. This ain't it. It motivates. And I had a bumper, hey, 1987, oh, Joe, I had a bumper sticker. How many HBC you guys know? SSC flies air sharp in 87. Oh, look at them.
Starting point is 00:40:34 So they put the bumper stickers that you give you the press guy, you know, you come and sit down, you see the thing, had the bumper stickers in there. How many, how many HBC you guys, you know, had a bumper sticker? okay i see you i see you polo i bet you he still got it izard lee jeans levi's calvin cline yeah
Starting point is 00:40:57 for show come on that okay you ain't had no truth though the hell no man they ain't want no troupe by that time if you'd have polo or alligator I wouldn't even do with the fox
Starting point is 00:41:08 you remember fox used to be a thing too I ain't want no fox I ain't want no le tigua they had a little thing I think they're called the tiger Now, I ain't want that. If it ain't had that gator or it didn't have that man on the horse, yeah, man. Okay.
Starting point is 00:41:23 Yeah, man. I had Azzar socks. I had the match and belt the match. What? Oh, yeah. Oh, so I'm walking like Frankenstein. I got so much starch in my jeans. I can barely be my leg.
Starting point is 00:41:36 I can barely be my leg, Joe. You had that shirt took in? Did I? Stuffed A. Stuffed? Down there, hey, as a matter of fact, hammered a shirt pulled down to my drone. You know what I'm saying? Make sure it don't come out.
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Starting point is 00:46:05 Terence Crawford, Boxing Pound for Pound King, announced his retirement from the sport. last night with a perfect 42 and 0 record. 31 wins coming by way of knockout. A five division champion, a three division undisputed champion. He won the undisputed championship in the junior well to wait,
Starting point is 00:46:20 well to wait and super middle weight. The only man in the full bed era to accomplish such a feat. He's the only man to unify the belts at 168. Only mani Pachia on Oscar de la Horier can claim more world titles and weight classes than Crawford, who was a perfect 20 and 0 and 15 KOs in title fight.
Starting point is 00:46:41 If this is the end, where do you rank Blood Crop and Ocho as far as all-time grapes? I mean, listen, we talk about all-time graces up there. As far as a numerical order to put him in, I really can't do that because, I mean, there's so many others that are worthy of that,
Starting point is 00:46:58 but he's up there with the best. But this is not the end, we know better than that. Most players do this, I mean, most fighting. Most fighters do this, they retire, and say they're not coming back and they come back depending on the fight.
Starting point is 00:47:12 When he does come back and comes out of retirement, it's going to be a mega fight. Many fighters. Always retire, hang up the gloves and say that they're done. Terrence Bud Crawford is not done fighting.
Starting point is 00:47:24 Make the price go up on you. He's not done fighting. Make the price go up. Give me a number to make me come out of retirement. Yep. Monat. Now you're talking. He didn't turn to his value up.
Starting point is 00:47:34 Hey, it's all the way up. He's the A side too at that. not only is he they side he can command a hundred million and up based on his last fight but i don't know but and that that's what that's what he's done so he's not going to be retired he's going to be he'll fight sometime in 2026 and when he fights in 2026 it'll probably be somewhere towards the end of the year canello said that he wanted to fight in september the question is i don't know who else he can fight to command that kind of payday because look nobody draws eyes like canello the question is can because he's not going to take look
Starting point is 00:48:11 Canello got what he got deservedly so based on everything he's done but based on everything that I've done and I beat Canello's ass now I need to be in Canelo shoes where he I need to be where Canello was when I took the fight yeah yeah
Starting point is 00:48:29 well that's what that's what's going to be regardless that's what it's going to be and the person that's going to be make that fight it's going to be have turkey it's got to be Turkey Turkey Ali he's going to be one to make it and turkey understands that as well as the way business goes and the way boxing goes once you beat the ace side you become the ace side right but when that fight does happen if it is if it is um canello or maybe he gives us the fight we all been waiting to see is is
Starting point is 00:48:55 him and geron in us and he gets he takes i mean listen is high risk is high risk low reward in a sense i don't believe that's a hundred million dollar fight for a bud you shouldn't me it is yeah it is yeah Yes, it is. Yes, it is. Because the risk that he's willing to take. But there's someone that's clamoring to see boots in his. Everybody is clamoring to see boots and bud fight on. Trust me, I'm telling you.
Starting point is 00:49:19 I believe the only person that can get that kind of money, get that payday for him is Canelo. Why? Let me ask you a question. If he could have got a hundred million, why the hell did he fight Canello then? Why would he go up freeway classes instead of staying right there and fighting the guy at 154? And I'm just asking. Listen to me. I'm going to say, let's just say.
Starting point is 00:49:37 If that was the case, why would he go three weight classes to fight a guy that at that weight had been touched? Why not fight boots at 154 if you could get $100 million? Because you got to get you got to beat the A side to get to get that kind of money, huh? You got to fight Canello and beat Canello to be able to command what you're going to do. Is boost for A side? No, no. Is boosts or B side? Think about it.
Starting point is 00:50:05 What you think, let me ask you question. What do you think? Boose is up and coming, huh? Boose is up and coming. You ain't getting $100 million for no up and comer. It ain't never happen and it's never gonna happen. See, you know, you're not understanding. He's now the A side.
Starting point is 00:50:19 Regardless of who he chooses to fight, the next best in the game is Booth. Don't draw. Mayweather did not start getting pay days until wean. Who did he have to fight to get the payday? De La Jolla. Okay. Now once he fought Day La Jolla,
Starting point is 00:50:39 2,000 figures 2005, now everybody, they wanted to see him fight who? The names that he fought, Pachial, Ricky Hatton. But Ricky Hatton was a draw. Ricky Hatton was dropping people. Paci out was dropping people. Shane Mosley was dropping people. Look at the people that he was fighting.
Starting point is 00:50:59 Bruce ain't got no name like any of them. Hold on. Are we watching the same fucking fights? I'm watching the ratings. I'm watching the ratings. I'm watching the ratings. I'm watching the ratings, draws. I'm watching the fightter.
Starting point is 00:51:16 Oh, Joe, it's about eyeball. I'm watching the fighter and understanding the fighter. Let me mention this. The Cowboys are the Cowboys. Okay, I'll tell you what. Hold on, hold on. I'll tell you what. I'll tell you what.
Starting point is 00:51:25 I'll tell you what. Let's have this conversation at the Boots walk through Virgil Ortiz. Let me ask you this. Are the Cowboys as good at the Patriots? Are the Cowboys as good at the Broncos? Yeah. Now, which one of those teams drew 57 million? Oh, I like, I like where you're going.
Starting point is 00:51:48 See, I like how you did that. See, that's why you're going to call me. I see, I like how you did that. I like how you did that. I want this. I want that. Bro, you got to draw people. See, Mayweather was going to get,
Starting point is 00:52:03 because Mayweather was the draw. So people are going to watch. because it's Mayweather but when he fought hat look at what he did the hat he ran through Pat hat look at what he did to a what look at what he did to a Barrera Moly yeah hey but but um let me tell you something on this is the way the business is it's always been like this remember how you talk about 80s the best for the best but now it's a little different you we talk about draw the people in the boxer world want to see the best fight the best now when we
Starting point is 00:52:34 talk about best stylistically boots is one of the best stylistically. You can't take that away from him. Boots is one of the best. I mean, excuse me, Bud is one of the best stylistically. It makes it a great fight. Now,
Starting point is 00:52:48 one of the monkey ridges that we throw in there is Boots is up and coming. Why would Bud want to take that fight? It does nothing for him. He would, if you could guarantee him 100 million, he'd take it. I guarantee you Turkey will give him that hundred goddamn million.
Starting point is 00:53:05 Because he's not, he's not big enough. only one that's why that's why bub was smart what did buzz say from the very start hey but one man out there i want to fight who was that ocho nello because he know canelo if canello's making 65 70 million dollars how would you think boots make a fight hold on hold on wait wait wait before you say that why you think everybody called canello out was he a draw why you think benivitas called him out everybody calls him out because they understand he's a cash cow yeah how can i make my biggest payday
Starting point is 00:53:39 i have to fight the cash cow right so call doing so that's what i'm trying to tell you boots does nothing for bud i get why boots would want it because it's going to be his biggest payday ever right so i get why boots i get why boots won't this fight but bud like bro why would i want to fight a guy to make 20 million when i just made 50 million Hey, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's the way it is now just in general. I would just, I'm just stating what would be a good fight stylistically in general. That's all. You know, I, I, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, it's, it's hard. It's hard. It's hard. It's, it's hard. He's, he's already at the top. Why in the hell am I dipping down and it does nothing for me. That's just the way the business works. Yeah, even Floyd had to go through that shit. Oh, sorry. He thought, he fought, uh, he fought, uh, Who did he fight? He fought Cotto. He fought, what's the lefty name?
Starting point is 00:54:38 What's the lefty? The ball head. Zah, Super Judah. Think about who he fought. Guys fought. Guys don't want to fight. Because, as Andre Ward said, guys are not about legacies.
Starting point is 00:54:58 See, Bud is about his legacy. Guys are about money now. Now that Buzz, legacy is complete, I ain't fight for nothing of money. And if you can't, if you can't generate, if you can't guarantee me a hundred, I ain't, it ain't worth my time.
Starting point is 00:55:15 Because they definitely don't want their L on their record. No. No. So if I got a, if I got a risk it, don't you? You are risking for five million. You're going to risk shark-infested water for five million or a hundred million.
Starting point is 00:55:31 Well, I already already said it though. I said it would be a great fight. but I said he's not going to take it. No. I'm speaking. Oh, you want to just see. You're talking about stylistically,
Starting point is 00:55:41 an approach of it. Okay, I see what? Oh, my goodness. What? Yeah. Both of them switch hitters? Oh, my,
Starting point is 00:55:46 man. Hey, unk, man, listen, that thing, that thing will be nice. You mean side paul stance. You don't say switch hitters.
Starting point is 00:55:53 I like saying switch hits it because they get fight from both things. Yeah, but you know, switch hitters mean a different thing in different places, but okay, I get what you say.
Starting point is 00:55:59 Oh, my bad. My bad. Oh, Joe. Oh, Joe. okay okay here we go step right up what happened study reveals that the average size penis in the u.s state hey hey hey paul hold on pause men from alabama you know your boy part of alabama alabama black state i'm just saying don't you i just say it i'm just saying i just say it i just say it lit 7.44 inches while west virginia comes in second at seven inches the other end of the scale
Starting point is 00:56:33 Delaware. Woo. So the average inches is about 5.22. This is closely followed by New Mexico with
Starting point is 00:56:43 the bottom five Arkansas. Damn. Oh, Joe. Joe, I was saying I hope you from Alabama. I told you this early, Joe.
Starting point is 00:56:55 Oh, Joe. Remember I told him. Yeah. What did they try to say? I shall hope you. I shall hope you from Well, you know, you just, you moved, you was born in Alabama, but you moved to Arkansas at a young age. Man, what, and they?
Starting point is 00:57:10 Who doing these studies, man? Hey, hey, a, eh, uh, and Joe, you know, I don't, I don't know anything about any studies. You know, my, my, my, my, my reputation in general, uh, it precedes itself. Um, so I, I just, this thing. Yeah, that, that, that, that, that, I don't know about that one. You know. Florida is in the top six at 6.85. Yeah, we, I mean, I'm, you know, but old Alabama, oh,
Starting point is 00:57:42 you know, you know, that Alabama black snake. Yeah, you know, you know, hey, sometimes, someone thing they say about study, sometimes they'd be awful a little bit. Well, hey, hey, you know, that old Alabama black's neck come out, you know what I'm saying, Joe? Oh, John, I just,
Starting point is 00:58:02 Not your pay, that's it, that's it hope, you know what I'm saying? Hey, hey, uh, would the baby all, the baby all come out? Hey, hold on, uh, hey, how he came, how he came out again in high school? Hey, how you, how you wrap around, how you wrap the chord around again? Right. Hey, right that shit, that shit was so funny, boy. Hey. Oh, but, and I had me dying.
Starting point is 00:58:30 Oh, they had me dying. Hey, Joe, man, and say, well, with an old Ocho came on to the Cowboy and saw it, boy said, tired to wrap it up. That's all the God! Oh, boy, hey. Hey, that's a wild story, that, Ojo. Hey, hey, hey, that's a wild.
Starting point is 00:58:53 Hey, hey, listen, it's funny, is I can reflect back and I can laugh about it today. You know, I wasn't mad, Joe, I was just, just disappointed because they told you know when people tell you something they tell you for a reason especially when you're that young you know you think you know i'm thinking that i'm that boy i'm on the football team i'm one of the star players ain't nobody gonna do nothing to me boy i'm him i'm feeling like hold on hold on but you said you say you say her head was mashed up against the thing yeah yeah he had in the back seat he out of the back seat joe yeah uh the ponytail
Starting point is 00:59:26 it kept hitting the review mirror you know dude dude had a little small little car little small look like a little Dotson, like a little Dotson, like a little Dotson, a cheat, cheat little Dotson. Yeah, yeah, Joe, it ain't, it ain't, at that day, I wasn't scarred, I was disappointed, but I became a different individual. You were scarred, bro. It's okay, it's okay, it's okay, because, see, I know it turns you into a service. You, you walk into something like that. Yeah!
Starting point is 00:59:49 You have no choice. Hey, Joe, after he had to unwind all that? Come on, come on, come on, come on, now. That's a chat. Hey, chat, I ain't got nothing to do. Oh, Lord, that birthday. And y'all shout out. Better got hot here all the floggy.
Starting point is 01:00:08 Ocho, let me take this last little quick for you, Ocho. Every time, Ocho, tell this story. He's all talking about it. Oh, look. It's all good. You know, J, uh, unk throwing a little exaggeration on now. You know, it's all good. I don't know, it's all good.
Starting point is 01:00:27 Hey, that's, that was a good one. Oh, Lord, have a good one. I wonder what we got to find what's your name what you're going to find him and have more we're going to have come on nightcap hey it name with uh pierre pierre pierre st joan yeah yeah pierre i wonder i wonder what pierre at man pierre sing joan and it's a good day if anybody can find him is internet care oh yeah yeah they could they could oh god damn Pierre man but Joe Joe is originally from Alabama he just you know he uh he's he's not he's been his formative years I'm now I'm gonna claim why I'm that they
Starting point is 01:01:16 ain't right though you know who's doing all this come on now oh man Wyoming We got the, what you call them, they got the, what you call them, the stats. Hey, you know, y'all know where I'm originally from. Where you're really, really from? You know, I feel a little time in Alabama. Yeah. I was born, I was born in Illinois. Oh, you're born in Illinois.
Starting point is 01:02:00 Boy, that ain't. Wow. What a time. Hey, brother from Delaware. I can help you out, get on those sparks. I mean, whatever you got, you'll reach your full potential. Isn't that what it's about? Yeah.
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Starting point is 01:03:12 Hey, Joe, I, listen, Joe, I pop one on the show. I pop one on the show. I pop one on the show. I think for two weeks ago, you know, before we started. Now, you know, we go about two hours. I want to make sure that thing married there. I want to make sure. Hey, boy, hey. Hey, make sure. Hey, make sure get through the blood. You hear me? I'm going to pop one for the show. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. But I'm telling you, boy, look here, I get on that spot.
Starting point is 01:03:37 In there, like, swimwear. Hey, Joe, I let that thing marinate the whole show, Joe. You hear me? Sis was up there. She, you know, she's waiting. She ain't had no idea. She was sleep. Joe, I tell you no lie.
Starting point is 01:03:52 I lie for you before I lie to you, Joe. Right. What? It's a good thing she had insurance. You hear me? Could up. You could have, yeah, I'm back, go, Ocho, man. A, uh, boy, she hit, she touched every corner.
Starting point is 01:04:06 Ohio. And every corner, every corner in high. Man, you ain't supposed to do mama like that. Oh, no. Oh, no. Sometimes, sometimes you got to. Yeah, give a good understanding because I'm kind of, I'm kind of on the old side now. I'm kind of on the old side.
Starting point is 01:04:23 So I can't get up. I can't, I can't get them kind of performances all the time. once every six months I had you thinking what a low at Joe once every six Joe they work
Starting point is 01:04:37 I took one back in back in this is a different type of enhancement enhancer but it was like it had to be 2000
Starting point is 01:04:51 and three 2004 I'm still I'm still good Joe I'm still good You know, you know, I want to, you know, I'll be, you know, I'm gonna, you know, I'm gonna, you know, I'm gonna, you know, I'm gonna show up in that thing on show, you know what I'm saying. Yeah. I put it on her. I put it on a good job. I tell, what I say? I put it on her. Yeah. I put it on her. Now, see, what I'm gonna see? I'm gonna see. But you know, I went back the second time, Joe. I ain't had that in my system. It wasn't the same kind of theatrical performance that. I had before.
Starting point is 01:05:28 You know what I'm saying? I understand. You know what I understand? And the first one, it was probably like a Denzel or a Tom Hanks or Daniel Day Lewis performance. It was one of those performances. This last one probably was like a Tom Green or David Spade type of performance. You want to those.
Starting point is 01:05:43 You know what I said? Hey. So I called him. I called, you know, I said, hey, you know, I said, you know, what's up, you know? Say, you know, can I come back? You know, when can I see you again? She said, uh, when you're free, I say, well, you know, I'm, I was. you know, I work around your schedule.
Starting point is 01:06:00 She said, what about Friday? I said, okay, I'll see you Friday. Joe, I swear right head of God. She said, bring that dick you had the first time. What a God, Joe, I swear to God, Joe. I swear to God. But I ain't, hey. Hey, hey, see, let me tell you something.
Starting point is 01:06:29 See, that's what you get when you lay your best pipe down in the rent house. You know, you're playing on buying it. You're just playing on renting it for a little while. Hey, but you got to make that first depression because you never know if that's going to be the first or the last. It might be it. You want to show out that first one around. Yes, sir. Yes, sir.
Starting point is 01:06:48 Yes, sir. Oh, hey, boy. Boy. So. Hey, Joe, I got you. I got you, Joe. So you just make sure you open the trophy. Right.
Starting point is 01:07:08 I promise you. In two weeks, you'll see another trophy sitting on the manor. See that. See that. Okay. Sitting on the matter, another one. Oh, Joe, it's time to play. Play of Fame presented by prize picks.
Starting point is 01:07:24 Here's the staff three-pick power play ahead of tomorrow's Thursday night game. Ocho, Joe, Kyrin Williams, will have 56 yards rushing tomorrow. 56. Who they playing on? Seattle play the Rams. Rams in Seattle. That's going to be a big game. be a good game.
Starting point is 01:07:58 Well, I'm in Seattle. Yeah, I'm going to say, yeah. I'm going to say them boy playing for something, man. This, actually, this is for, uh, to take over the lead for the conference. Yeah, I got him, yeah. I got him getting down. Ocho, what you're thinking, Ocho? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:17 Seattle good. Yeah, I'm at that. I'm at a good. Where Seattle right, Rush, New Fiss? you put an eight up there in that box you want to that boy gonna be picking you out oh yeah uh i'm gonna go under what they're third in rush defense You taking the under? Yeah, but
Starting point is 01:08:57 But they kind of split him and Sharper though All right, Ash, if you don't hear it, y'all All right, Ash, if you don't hear it, y'all blame Ash. Is he taking the under? I'm taking over. All right, we're going over. He's going to have 56 yards. All right, Pooka and the Cua will have at least one touchdown, Ocho.
Starting point is 01:09:26 Hell yeah. I wouldn't care who they were playing. He finished school. I know Uncle Green with that. God damn Puga cutting up, boy. You get you nervous on you? What? Hold on.
Starting point is 01:09:45 Blake Corwin. Blake Corwin, that's who they're. He shares carrots with him, though. Ooh, we. Hold on, you talking about Pooka still, aren't you? I'm going back to. I'm going back to him. I'm going to say he going under.
Starting point is 01:10:02 Chat, what's your thing? What y'all think, what y'all think, chat? Y'all think he gets 56 yards rushing? I'm going to let the chat pick. Y'all say you're going to get 56 yards. Pooka, puka. Man, they got spoon. They got wolding.
Starting point is 01:10:17 Ocho, they got secondary, man. And listen, I, listen, I don't care who they got. They put, they put Pooka, they put Pooke in a position to make play the same way they do JSN, the same way they did Cooper Cup. He's, he's scoring. All right, Ocho Cade, let's take him. Rashid, 36 yards receiving.
Starting point is 01:10:44 36? Yeah. He gonna get, he gonna get, he gonna get. They don't really be throwing him the ball like that, though, Ocho. Yeah, but he's so fast and the plays he has is going to be something explosive, I'm telling you. What you call him? JSA ain't going to get them targets now. Yeah, but Rishishahee, he's going to get something deep.
Starting point is 01:11:02 He's got seven, 30s, 37, 74 years. Yeah. All right, I say he's going over, so let's take the over. I told you. He's going more. So he's going to have more than 36. yards, Pookin the Cool will have at least one touchdown, and Kairn Williams.
Starting point is 01:11:24 Damn. I'm going over. I'm going to take the over. More. He'll have more than 56 yards. $25 to win $131.25. Download the app today. Use coach Shannon to get $50 in lineups after you play your first $5 lineup.
Starting point is 01:11:44 Prize picks. It's good to be right. All right, we're gonna get you out on this, and it's time to play our final segment of the evening. It's time for Q and A. Leon Hill said, Let's go nightcap. Dave the D says, love the big three.
Starting point is 01:12:11 What's up, I, so good or bad? What was your welcome to the league moment where you said, dang, it's dead. different on this level. My welcome to the league moment, it happened, I think it's like my third or fourth game, my rookie year. We played against the Washington Wizards. That's the year Michael Jordan came back.
Starting point is 01:12:30 Uh-oh. And, okay, Ocho, I idolized his man since I was a kid. So to get a chance to play against him when he came back was like, it was surreal to me. I didn't even get no sleep the night before because I knew he was my matchup. I had the guard him for the first three quarters. Okay. And then Paul Pierce gardening for the fourth quarter. Right.
Starting point is 01:12:51 So the whole time I'm thinking about the game plan and what I got to do is stay down on pump fakes. Just that and the third man, I'm going for pump fakes. He and won. Hey, look, you know how you can just be overzealous and just going for every little move? That's kind of how it was, bro.
Starting point is 01:13:09 You were going for everything, Joe? Yeah, I was because I was so geeked up, oh, Joe. Right. In my head, I felt like his moves was going to be a lot faster than what I was going to anticipate. Right. And I think he was 40 years old at the time. I was 20.
Starting point is 01:13:24 Yeah, man, it was a surreal moment, though. How many scow it on you, Joe? He had 31, oh, Joe. God damn, Joe! He shot it like 27 times, Joe, 28 times with 31. That's all you can ask for. He's going to get his points. Okay.
Starting point is 01:13:43 Mid-rain assassins. Oh, yeah. Boy. I'd never forget that game. Damn. Hoodie Jimrat said, Bud is not fighting boots because Bud isn't dropping weight to fight it.
Starting point is 01:13:57 He's been there, done that. Bud versus Devin Haney, what I won't. Man, bud. What? What? Devin Haney don't want to see Bud. Yeah, he ain't going to fight,
Starting point is 01:14:08 I mean, you're going to have to go, I mean, you're going to have to probably go, I mean, to fight Bud, Ocho. You're going to have to be at least 160. Bud ain't going back down. Not to know, not to know 150, not no 154, 147. Hold on.
Starting point is 01:14:24 He got a better chance of fighting boots than Bud, don't it? Yeah. Then Devin Haney, no, man. Devin, Hayden, too small. For Boots. For Bud. Boots could make 168. Yeah, moving up is easier than coming down.
Starting point is 01:14:43 Yeah. Yeah. And that's what, that's what killed Roy. When Roy went up, remember when Roy went up to heavyweight, weighed 193, and then he had to come all the way back down? Way back down, yeah. Oh, man, boy. Skipney, Danny J.R., NFL doing a draft lottery is needed.
Starting point is 01:15:04 No tanking. Yeah. Well, who you think, the Giants, the Jets, who you think tanking? Cleveland? Hey. Hey, all three need to be under investigation. True and influence. Two is getting traded, which is probably not going to happen.
Starting point is 01:15:29 Where would he end up? I mean, he got 54 million guaranteed next year, Ojo. He ain't going over. Oh, he's getting them out of there. You think they're going to eat that, you think they're going to eat that dead cap, that dead money? Yep. Damn.
Starting point is 01:15:46 Ocho, you don't bitch. Ocho, a guy that's been your starter for the better part of four, five years, and you bench him the last three games of the season, he ain't coming back. You're right, you're right, you're right, you're right. Hey, see? There I go again, using my heart instead of my mind, see. Ocho, we just saw this three years ago. What did Denver do with Russ?
Starting point is 01:16:05 Yeah. Yeah. Same money. You're right. You're right. Slick underscore ass butter. Hey, Ocho. You can have Dillon Gabriel.
Starting point is 01:16:19 Lefty, lefty? Nah. We good. Well, hell, hey, we can have Shador since they want to play games. You take Shadour, huh? Yeah, come. I got a place.
Starting point is 01:16:32 I got a place for Shadour. Oh, you want to go to the Cowboys? Nah, ATL. Man, they got a first round pick. Joe, you got, uh, Pyrricks, Jr. The man just got, he got to have ACL, uh, Sergio, huh?
Starting point is 01:16:45 What you want to? These folks ain't trying to sit around here. Man, you know, it's a football town. These folks ain't playing. You know what happened if you do it come in. You know what happened. They'll turn this city upside down. Boy, what?
Starting point is 01:16:58 He better get well soon. Habibedek. Ocho, my wife and I are visiting Miami for three days next week. Any must-do recommendations? I love to check out your favorite Cuban spot. Yeah, must-do recommendations. I'm not sure where you stand, but Havana, Cuban cuisine.
Starting point is 01:17:20 It's right here in Davy, right off Flamingo and Griffin. I mean, Pine Island and Griffin. Havana, Cuban cuisine. What else? What else? Restaurants. Mmm. Another place I want you to try for breakfast.
Starting point is 01:17:43 It's called Little Hinn. So Cuban spot Little Hinn for breakfast That's easy to remember And probably dinner Go to the Mai Chi For dinner Go to the Mai Chi restaurant
Starting point is 01:17:56 Enjoy the show Make sure you make reservations So both of you can enjoy the Polynesian show You will really Yeah you will really enjoy it You won't have to take that trip All the way in Hawaii to experience it You can experience it right here in Miami
Starting point is 01:18:09 Havana Cuban cuisine Little Hinn For breakfast the Mai Chi for dinner. Tell him Ocho sent you. Sheldon Pope said, Ocho, do you think Miami has a shot at getting John Moran before the trade deadline
Starting point is 01:18:24 with the heat infrastructure and the influencers like yourself and the hip-hop artist who love the heat? Will that help bring the joy back to him? Ocho, Joe, that's for you guys. I mean, well, listen, for one, I talk to John, I talked to Jor on multiple occasions. I talked to Pat Riley.
Starting point is 01:18:42 I talked to Mickey Erison. I think it would be, and it behoove, John Moran, to make that move here if he sees fit due to the structural environment and the discipline that Pat Riley commands, I think it would be good for him. It would be a great environment, it would be great for him because he can't be too loose. You can do your thing, but you can't be too loose, you know. And I think the structure that we add and can give him organizationally will, we'll, pay dividends for his career long term.
Starting point is 01:19:16 What do you think, Joe? You think that's a good place for it? I think it could be a good place for him, Uncle. I think it will rejuvenate his love for the game. You know, his love for the game, his passion for the game. Miami is a, it's a tough place to play if you ain't got no discipline,
Starting point is 01:19:33 and that's all I'm going to say. Like, you know, I've played there, and, you know, they expect a lot out of their players, man. So, you know, that's a hell of a city to be in, boy. Yeah. Yeah. If he out there wilder like that in Memphis, I can imagine what Miami going to be like. Woo.
Starting point is 01:19:48 That's the only thing I can think. That's the only thing I can think. No, no, no, no, no. Hey, Joe, he's going to be good. He's going to be good. No. Listen, we got you. Hey, Joe, listen to me.
Starting point is 01:19:56 We're going to get him 24-hour security. You know, we're going to monitor where he goes. So you can't go nowhere in Miami and Pat ain't going to know. You can't go nowhere in Miami and Patty. It doesn't matter what a stop you go into. That phone, hey, yeah, your boy in here. Yeah, he got an eye. He good.
Starting point is 01:20:12 We got him. You say, it's good. You good. See, in Memphis, you can't control that. In Memphis, you can't control that. In Miami, you can control that because everybody know everybody. And all the people with that kind of status go to the same places. So it's easy to keep that under control.
Starting point is 01:20:33 They work in Miami. Okay, old joke. Yeah, I know he's going to work now. Well, he ain't get that goddamn good by just, he ain't just walking. He ain't just walking and just walk into that. That ain't them to work. Yeah, they, I seen some different stuff that one. I got no chill.
Starting point is 01:20:52 Oh, and your rookie year, Steve Atwater knocked out six foot one, 253 pounds, Christian O'Coyer with that monster hit. What was the sideline and locker room reaction? We're going crazy. Because, you know, I had seen Christian O'Coyer run me. Like I said, he's huge. I mean, yeah, he did have some big ass pass, but he's a muscular guy.
Starting point is 01:21:10 He was legit. I mean, you know, Nigerian, they called it a Nigerian nightmare. For a reason. He had no lateral movement, but if he got a head of steam, he'd run your ass over. And he ran, I mean, that size he ran four, four. Mm-hmm. Man, they just so happened. We rock and roll the safeties and I, and water was coming down.
Starting point is 01:21:36 Perfect, perfect timing. What? Are we going crazy? Get it, water! He wasn't ever the same. You wasn't never the same. Go back and look at it. He wasn't never the same.
Starting point is 01:21:55 That's like a boxer. When a boxer get knocked out for the first time, you're a little timid next time to get out there in that ring. The same thing as a running back. It's easier for you to get knocked out. Again, yes. That's why with concussions, Ocho, once you get one,
Starting point is 01:22:11 you're more susceptible to getting another, especially right afterwards. El Prade 98, digging the style tonight, Ocho, out here built like Frozone. Jason Zeldor said, I turn 38 today. I feel like I'm ancient. All of what I want for my birthday is my quarterback dart to stay healthy.
Starting point is 01:22:33 The gym, the gym, the gym gone, a guy like Mike Tomlin to need my Giants and Ocho and Unc to wish me a happy birthday. Jason, you've been a supporter of ours for a very long time. So each one of us, Joe, Ocho, and myself would like to wish you a happy birthday. Dart is going to have to stay healthy. Think about Ocho, he's been evaluated for a concussion about five times. That's not good.
Starting point is 01:23:00 In one year? Yeah, he got a chill. You really ain't trying to get evaluated for five concussions in a career, let alone in a season. he's seeking contact oh no you can't do that yeah he is he's seeking contact he got to cut that out
Starting point is 01:23:17 boy Joe I played all them years boy I only had two you getting you getting down getting out of bound what? What? I got one from Brian Russell and I got one from Ray
Starting point is 01:23:28 that was it that was it and Joe I play you know I play I play a recordless Joe I play it I play talking trash you know yipping and yapping Boy, I made a business decision every time. I ain't got no time to play.
Starting point is 01:23:43 I ain't trying to get no extra yards. I ain't, no, I'm good. Fins, New Jersey said, good evening and good riddance to tour. 23 was the fans season. That was it. Tank for tour should have burned it all down for Burrell. Well, you know what? When it comes down to it, guess what, Ocho?
Starting point is 01:24:03 Yeah. You got Brian Flores, who's right. Oh, yeah. Brian Flores was right. The owner got to eat this one. He wanted to her. Flores wanted Justin Herbert. Justin Herbert.
Starting point is 01:24:19 Think about how different this team would look. With Justin Herbert. We'll never know. But. Yeah. I mean, unless you play Madden, you could put Herbert on Madden. Lab 20. Casey.
Starting point is 01:24:34 ISO, do you think Kobe's 2007 to 2007 to 20, 10 run is overlooked. Usually Pete tried to diminish because he has shot, but failed to mention he won two without the top 75 player, which was back to back. Also, we need ISO gear saying, oh, Ocho, you got to chill. You think 2007 or 2010 Joe was overlooked?
Starting point is 01:24:59 I think it is kind of overlooked in his career. I mean, but, you know, the ones who know, obviously, you know, it stamps his legacy. But, man, when he did have Shaq, I can just go back to 01, Uncle Ocho. Throughout that playoff run, that was, you know, obviously going into my rookie year. So I spent a lot of time in L.A. I have the probably one of the most famous agents, Arn Tell him. Kobe had the same agent.
Starting point is 01:25:29 Tracy McGrady had the same agent. So I spent a lot of time in L.A. watching, man, just watching this dude. And, man, he was averaging like 30. 33, 10, and 8. Like, his numbers was almost equivalent to Shaq numbers back then. Right. So, yeah, when he wasn't playing
Starting point is 01:25:48 with Shaq and he finally got a chance to lead a team, yeah, I think that does go a little underlook because he was, I mean, he performed at a high level, man. He was, he was a beauty to watch then. Yeah, I mean, look, Jack
Starting point is 01:26:04 make it easy for a lot of people. But he still had to score those points. Yeah. And then when he would out Shaq, he did average 35 a game. He had an 81 game and he had a month stretch where he was just like crazy.
Starting point is 01:26:20 He was getting 60 plus points in three quarters. There hadn't been very many people in the history of the NBA could put the ball in the basket like Kobe. Yeah. Nobody worked like. So he's going outworked. Give him his credit. Yeah, he's a ball. Yeah, he's going to take shots. He's going to take bad shots. But he's going to make bad shots too. There was not a shot that he didn't think he could make. And he was willing to take that shot at any time of the game. So if you, if, if, if you're willing to be the hero, you got to be okay being the villain too. Yeah. Yeah. And he didn't care of it. One way he didn't care.
Starting point is 01:27:08 Bad do. Uh, Jay Ski, 97, we back, we back. We back. This is the unc we love to see. Welcome back, unc. Nah, man, I'm on probation still. I gotta wait till 26, man. Now, hey, boy, you ain't,
Starting point is 01:27:23 a probation my ass, boy, your shit revoked after the giant. Oh, no. There ain't no probation tonight, boy. By-O-G was told me eating hoo-ha would grow hair on your face we're uggfying his beard at has umpfire's love advice I ain't saying but I'm just saying yeah I heard that too I ain't I heard you do a little bit of that Joe Joe Joe I see some on the side of your Joe but hey you know my
Starting point is 01:27:55 spotty you got me a little spot yeah yeah okay okay you and you I just see that joy this that joy come all the way down to you it will it does it does I got to get I'm gonna get it cleaned up, I'm gonna clean up the bar. Oh, nah, nah, nah, you good. Let it don't grow wild. Nah, man. Show you whizze, man. That's, let us all people ride, baby.
Starting point is 01:28:17 Duh, I gotta, you know what I'm saying? I don't know, I might cut it. I might just have me a goatee. I might just do a goatee. What'd you think about the goatee, oh, Joe? No, nah, nah, no, get the full beer, because I remember I told you, I'm gonna get the beer too. I'm gonna get a unit, he wanna get a beer,
Starting point is 01:28:32 he wanna get a beer, he wanna get a beer so bad, Joe. I'm gonna get, I'm gonna get a unit because I want mine to be full. For me to get full, it takes too long. I got somebody who do that down here in Atlanta, may I say he gets you right. I'm talking about the beard, though. The beard unit, how are you right?
Starting point is 01:28:48 Yeah. Yeah. Rose, you want yours like a big fool joint? Yeah, yeah. Matter of fact, you know what, I'm going to do it? When we do, when we do the, you know, the adventure stuff, yeah. I'm going to have a beard or I'm going to have the beer then.
Starting point is 01:29:03 No. I mean, people like, man, I ain't even though you, bro, I shave every day. So that's why I didn't, you know, had it and didn't have facial hair. I just shaved every day. This is Saturday would be two weeks, Joe. This is basically two weeks.
Starting point is 01:29:18 So I got to go to the seventh. I got to go to the seventh of January. It's that'll be a month. Oh, man. You'll be good. That thing ain't going to be full, filled everything. Filled all the way out.
Starting point is 01:29:32 I mean, it's taking, I'm like, I wake up and like, damn. My sister don't know yet. My mom don't know. My daughter, my Kayla saw her. She's like, Daddy, that looked good. I like that.
Starting point is 01:29:48 Man, my grandmother rolling them a grave. My grandmother did not like no beard. Uh-uh. No, man. Beards and tattoos? I can't stand old beards. Man, you know of my old school. Man, you know of my old school.
Starting point is 01:30:05 yeah my grader just had my grandmother just had a mustache but i'm gonna see i'm gonna see i'm gonna give it you know i'm like i said i'm gonna go to a little january to seven to see how it is and then if i if i if i like it i'm i'm gonna keep i'll keep it a little while i don't think i don't think this is something that i'm gonna take to the you know years you know what i'm saying yeah yeah i just want to see i just want to see what it looked like all right i just didn't know i I ain't know I had this much grade, though. That's for damn sure.
Starting point is 01:30:40 I woke up one more than my chin. I'm like, damn. I'm looking. I'm like. So, well, that's where it is. I'm going to keep, I got till a day. So that's about, that's almost, that's almost three,
Starting point is 01:30:54 a little less than three weeks. Tony L.G. 95, 99. Only two quarterbacks have 20 wins, 7,000 pass a yard, than 50 touchdowns in their first two. season. Dan Marino and Bo Nix. Bo Nix.
Starting point is 01:31:13 Play for my team. Caspin, what's up? Oh, Joe, blessings from Atlanta, Georgia. Where does Julio Jones rank among the guy, you guys, all-time receivers? What made him so special? Size, speed, speed, route running. for a guy that size, for him to be able to sit down
Starting point is 01:31:37 and get in and out of those breaks was something special. Oh, yeah. Run every, run the whole route tree. Short routes, take him to the house. Intermediate route, take him to the house. Deep balls, take him to the house. And he, oh, Joe, remember now,
Starting point is 01:31:54 he has some, he dealt with injuries early in his career a lot. Yeah. And then he started to deal with hamstrings injury. Remember he had that foot injury? because he had like a 250-something-something-yard game. He had a 300-yard game. Man, he was at the top. He was at the apex.
Starting point is 01:32:14 He was at the top of his game. He was at the top of his game. He was something special to watch. And I think the thing is, I wish he had finished his career in Atlanta. Because once he started bouncing around, Ocho, he wasn't the same. Right.
Starting point is 01:32:29 Because, you know, once you bounce around, they're not going to use you the same. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. You're right. Like Ocho always said, the grass ain't always greener.
Starting point is 01:32:40 Uh, Caleb Dennis, Ocho, finish the lyric. You want me to take you shopping. I need your song on Spotify. Love y'all nightcap. You want me to take you shopping? Girl, you tripping. Night, nice, look, that one of my first song that went, went platinum back in, uh,
Starting point is 01:33:01 back in the 2000. Yeah, early, early 2000. Okay. Yeah. Okay. You got some hits. Oh, yeah. I only had, well, I was the one hit wonder, Joe. Okay. Oh, good. Yeah, that was my only song. Dr. LeBron, MD, is my birthday. Happy birthday, Dr. LeBron, LeBron. Happy birthday. Okay. Happy birthday. Hopefully you're doing something fun. Um, you know, you got a nice little date going out. get a little bite to eat, you know. Kevin Kyle said salute, fellas. Uh, Ocho, Iso, when y'all bring them the show to Indianapolis, uh, y'all got love out here.
Starting point is 01:33:43 Also, Ocho, when was your welcome to the league moment? Why, welcome to the league moment? See, my welcome to the league moment ain't happened to, man, years in. Yeah, that Brian, that Brian Russell hit. Yeah, I was out cold, boy. Marlin's five and said, Oh, did you get a chance to go to the rodeo last week in Vegas? I did not.
Starting point is 01:34:12 I did not. But you know what? I should have went. I just want to go see the bulls up close and personal. I want to see those bulls because, you know, I grew up in the country, Ocho, and Mr. Sammy Kirkland, he had cattle. He had, uh, uh,
Starting point is 01:34:27 Yon Al-Ran. Yon said, he had, he had Sunday Gertruth, which was red, with a white face, Kyle. Um, Mr. Sammy had, I think he had like Charlades, you got a Charlie, I'm trying to think what do he have. He had some black Angleses. Hey, y'all has the cowtip, uh, no.
Starting point is 01:34:51 You ain't on a cow tibble? We, um, like, my grandfather had, we had, we had, we had pigs. Like neighbors, we, in between Mr. Sammy and Mr. Ronny Ron and Ron. They had cattle. So my grandfather had pigs. Cattle was a lot easier. I believe cattle is a lot easier. They just eat more.
Starting point is 01:35:08 But pigs, they constantly, they constantly looking for ways to get the elf out of the fence. And them joke is just, we lay, you know, we have hot wire,
Starting point is 01:35:17 which is an electrical fence. Yeah. I got on the bus of many a morning to see my aunts and my sister them running, running hogs. I felt bad for them.
Starting point is 01:35:30 Cause them hogs got out. Barton Porter ain't care ain't no school ain't no nothing get them hogs back in I felt bad they grind and feed they a man Barney didn't play man I show wish Osho could have got some of that he showed you all that all that that that that that that that unserious that freedom this bar they have hey I would have any I would have been I would have been joking back oh no oh no Hey, hey, listen, hey, mama, I mean, mom and grandma tried to whip that out of me.
Starting point is 01:36:09 I'm still saying. No, Ocho. Hey, hey, once it's in you, it's in you. It might have got back in you once you got grown and got on your own, but it's what going to be in you right there. J. Dub, Akron. What's up, what's up, oh. I left Ohio to get some sun in Vegas.
Starting point is 01:36:28 It's just as cold as Vegas as it is in Ohio. experience was live yeah it's it's cold now at night now you got to realize it's the desert it burn your ass up in the day it freeze your ass at night i mean so you might get a 50 60 degree you know tip drop because it could easily be 80 and all of a sudden it'd be damn in you know 20 30 it get cold at night here especially this time of year but even the desert it's always been like that that's why you have to be really careful um because it can be scorching hot it can be 110, 120, and all of a sudden they drop all the way down to the 40. I'm sorry, bro.
Starting point is 01:37:05 I'm sorry. Joseph Shammu, you guys talk about podcast, Bo, or the conversation just over. It ain't over. Man, and boy don't want no smoke, man. I mean, we got, I mean. Boy don't want no smoke. We got like five, you know, I got to get with P. Mac. We got to get with a couple of the guys and said, okay, what are we going to do?
Starting point is 01:37:26 Hey, get their ass what? That's what they're going to do. Yeah, what game we're going to play? Hey, hey, listen, anything, it don't matter. Anything. Yeah, we planned. I mean, listen, you know, if y'all know anything, y'all know I'm a planner.
Starting point is 01:37:44 We just said, just arbitrarily just go out there. Okay, guys, just show up. Nah, listen, but you do it, you do what you need to do. Just know I'm just know I'm going to be ready. And my mouth, and my mouth are going to be running. Oh, for show. So, yeah, if we bowling, guess what? We walk into the line together.
Starting point is 01:38:02 You ain't all just sit down and be quiet. So that bowling that y'all see on TV, that is no work like that in the ninja bowl. Everything we do is in reed. So y'all know how, y'all already know how it gets. Car, whatever, talking is a must. Bades, dominoes, everything. Absolutely.
Starting point is 01:38:29 So that concludes this episode of Nightcap. We want to thank each and every one of you for joining us. Y'all know who I am. I'm your favorite aunt. That's my partner and co-host, Liberty City's Home, Bengals Ring of Fame, Honorary, a former pro bowler and an all pro. That's Chad Ochosinko Johnson. And the third member of the Big Three that joins us every Wednesday night,
Starting point is 01:38:49 University of Arkansas alum, University of Loon Rock, Arkansas native, a seven-time NBA All-Star from the Atlanta Hawks, I saw Joe Johnson. Joe for joining us tonight, man. Appreciate it. Thank you y'all. Please make sure you hit that subscribe button. Please make sure you hit the like button and do us a favor. Go subscribe to the Nightcap podcast feed wherever you get your podcast
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