Club Shay Shay - Nightcap Hour 2: Eagles LOOKING to TRADE AJ Brown?! + Time for JUSTIN JEFFERSON to JET? + Jaxson Dart has CHIP on SHOULDER + Yankees BEAT RIVAL Red Sox

Episode Date: October 3, 2025

Shannon Sharpe & Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to the Philadelphia Eagles possibly trading AJ Brown this offseason, Justin Jefferson talks about how he’s been successful even with all of the quarterbacks he’s had in his career, and Jaxson Dart is asked if he has a chip on his shoulder with the Giants playing the Saints this weekend and much more! 0:00- Eagles/AJ Brown trade speculations21:40 - Justin Jefferson26:09 - Jaxson Dart vs Saints with chip on his shoulder30:07 - Garrett Wilson on staying with Jets32:40 - Shaquille Leonard to retire as a Colt36:50 - MLB Wild Card Series42:06 - Q & Ayyyyy (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #Club See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Oh, Joe, multiple executives think the Eagles could entertain A.J. Brown trade this off-season per Jeremy Fowler. A.J. Brown's love-hate relationship with the Eagles is a league's Worst kept secret. AJ's frustration with the state of things is boiling over, according to Mike Florio. Much of the speculation center on the relationship or lack thereof between quarterback Jalen Hertz

and wide receiver, A.J. Brown. Last year, then Eagles defensive alignment, Brandon Graham, spilled the beings before doing damage control. Hertz was asked about the relationship this week and said we share great passion for this game and we're focused on this week. As Floreo wrote, it doesn't take an advanced degree in psychology

or anything more than basic common sense to realize something is off. Well, hell, we all can see something is off. We see it when we watch the goddamn game. We see it. I've seen some of the breakdowns and some of the analysts break down some of the concepts

and some of the things that other teams watch defensively and know exactly what AJ Brown is running based on his alignment and where he is. That's why he's always goddamn covered. People are about he need to get open. Well, it's hard to get open when you run the same goddamn same concept. That's what you said. Nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope.

You said you said you was telling guys, you was telling guys what you was running and you would still get open. You told me. Whoa, whoa, whoa, hold on. Hold on, chat. Stick with me. Hold on. You said you tell why I received was what you were running and he was, and you could still get

open. You said it doesn't matter if the defense know what you're going to do. Kate, nobody stop you. So even if the defense knows what A.J. Brown is going to do, he still should get open based on what you've told us for the last two years. Chat, do you agree or disagree?

I'm just going about what you said, Ocho. Can I say something? Yes. I said Ocho can go out there for 17 weeks straight and tell every DB that lines up in man, the man is route. Every double team, 55, quarter, it didn't matter what you played. Ocho can get out there line up.

So you said that you're probably in Ocho. Let me finish. My bad, my bad. Before the ball snap, I can let Carson know, yeah, out loud and let them know, I'm going to get the ball. And there was nothing you could do. I'm telling you what I could do. but you said no matter what

I'm talking about me I don't know about nobody else even if the defense even if the defense no you should still be able to get open because it's all about execution that what you're saying hey I'm speaking solely on me

because I have the ability to do it that's it you know but anyway this is where for Petulow where creativity comes into play the creativity that Mike Shannon has, the creativity that Andy Reed has, the creativity that Sean McVeigh shoes in his offense. But because they are so relying and so successful on the way they do things, they win doing

things the way they do it. That's all. That's all. That's all I'm saying. But when it comes time to throw and they have to throw, Jalen Hertz is capable of doing that. And that's where A.J. Brown will get its targets. That's where AJ Brown will get his yards.

All he has to do is be patient. His catchers are going to come. His jars are going to come. It's early in the season. I'm only in week four. It's going to come. Oh, Joe. It's got to be patient.

Shouldn't this thing been ironed out by now? We went through this for like nine weeks last year. Listen, it should be ironed out, but they ain't using no starch. You heard me they ain't using no starch. We know about the starch. They're going to use the starch when necessary. That's all. When necessary.

So it ain't necessary right now, huh? Absolutely not. Absolutely not. Now, they've had a scare. They had a scare against Tampa Bay. You know, Tampa Bay was moving the ball real well, making it somewhat of a game. But?

What a turnover has killed him. Bingo. I mean, they blocked the point for a touchdown. Baker Mayfield through two picks. That was the difference in the ball game. It is. If we don't. At the end, I agree.

I think AJ Brown is a phenomenal talent, but it comes a time. Ocho, production and tolerance. And we talk about... Wait, whoa. Hey, what's the first word you just said? Production and tolerance. And how is he not producing?

Because what? They don't care how you're not producing. What they'll tolerate you not producing, but what are they not going to allow you to do? Because I remember, I know a guy was Antonio Brown producing. Absolutely. And what did they get tired of?

What did I tell you? Hey, go back, look at, go back and look at, uh, uh, A, B's number for like a five or a six year straight. Six years stretch, the greatest ever. A six year stretch, we'll never see a stretch like Antonio Brown, them six years. 1500, 1600, 17, oh my God, I'm talking about nasty work. Now tell the people, now tell the people what they did. They let them go.

They trade them. Tell the people why they did, but you got to tell them why. Even with that kind of production, tolerance and production. As long as production is here, so with tolerance. Tolerance will never outweigh production. Yeah. Now. A. We went from there, Oakland, right?

You went to Oakland. Yeah. And didn't he make it a year. No, he didn't make it out of training camp because they ended up releasing him, And then he goes to go to New England and then does something and then they release him.

And he went to Tampa with Tom. He went to Tampa. But I think that I think did he go to Tampa that same year? It might have been. It might have been the COVID. It might have been 2020. I don't.

Yeah, he was on the team that won the Subbo. So that was the COVID year 2020. Mm-hmm. Yeah. That's what I'm afraid of, Ocho. That's what I'm afraid of.

Is that, is that because they're looking looking at like, man, you called it a scene. I mean, we allowed you to read the book and we said it wasn't much of it. Hey, that's AJ. Hey, we welcome that, blah. But I'm telling you, you play,

Ocho, you know how they think. Oh, yeah. You know. And I also know how they think when you ain't producing either. I know, I know what they're going to do. I know the game. I understand.

I know exactly what they doing. Shit. Hey, I ain't caught hook here. Hey, listen, he's wearing that sea on his chest. He's going to convict himself. in the right manner, the answers he had when he talked to the media yesterday, it was beautiful. It was beautiful. And I want my players to care.

I want my players to care where they want to be part of the system. They want to be part of the success that we are having. I want to be part of the offense. I want to be able to contribute. That's all he's saying. No ill will, no nothing. You know, but his time is going to come. It's very early.

They're going to be games. They're going to play teams. 26 is not beating us. they're going to be games we're going to say 26 is not beating us and we're going to see Jalen Hertz do what Jalen Hurts can do throw the ball

and they're going to get their plays he's going to get his yards he's going to get his touchdowns just right now everybody behind the eight ball Justin Jefferson Jamar Chase T. Higgins right now all the young bulls are having success

no but they got an excuse they're like we lost our quarterback Jack, J.J. and McCarthy is down. We're up to Carson Wins. We got Joe Burrow. Billy ain't got no skin. Yeah, understandable. But one thing about it is the cream always razzed at the top.

AJ Brown is in the top five conversations for a reason. The cream will always razz at the top regardless of what's going on right now. He's going to rise at the top. I'm telling you. Are we, are we, are we, are we sure? He's still in the top. Absolutely. Okay, let's go.

Jetta. Absolutely. Chase. Jetta, Chase, Amin Ra, Pooka, four. Hey, that five wide open, boy. That fast spot, wide open,

because once you get to that, that five spot, that's all. RICO, now, it's definitely what, RIC. It's wide open. It's all based on preference.

Who do you want to put in that slot? Now, I know what the numbers look like right now. Roman Dunez, J.S.N. I mean, you could, you can, you get, it's interchangeable because it's so early in the season, but the cream. CD, where, where are you putting CD? He coming. He coming. They all coming. I can't. It's, it's, it's, hey, eh. Hey, uh, is that show, is that your, is that your Wi-Fi messing up with mine? I don't know, mine. Mine. What's going on? Hey, what were you on, dial up over there?

No, man, we got the, we got the most expensive. Hey, you need to fix that. I know, mine would just, mine would just, let me, you know what? I'll cut my phone on. And you got, you got, you got that wife to open like Joe, like Joe Johnson. Okay, it's already open. Yeah, go ahead and check that. Hey, I'm going to do some pushups for.

real quick. I mean, we, we don't play, we don't pay $25 for extra. Where you at? We're using the complimentary that while. You did the upgrade? I wonder what it was because it said my, huh?

You did it. Yeah, we used to upgrade the Wi-Fi. Yes. Okay. You might have to go to the, uh, you know, because they got, like we did. I think we end up

Hey, uh, Hey, uh, Hey, hey, hey, you see how big got I got? Body. Ooh, who, ooh, hey, um, you go on me to the NBA Young Boy show? No. Hey, I don't think, I don't think that's a wise decision by you. huh you heard me what it's not a wise decision for you not to go with me to the NBA young

boy show why not because I'm gonna beat you up god man and you know whatever you go have whatever gonna be it gonna be gonna be Yeah, well, I'm just letting you know ahead of time. You're going to be on the show with a black eye. Hey, I bought your outfit, too. Look, hold on. Let me show your outfit. Okay.

You can see it? You're going to wear some Mike Myers out there? Yeah. Now, I bought you some black Carhart overalls. And because you got muscles. Oh, man. Hey, you hear me? Because you got muscles, you don't need no shirt underneath.

And we're going to put the lime green bandana around your neck. And I'm going to give you a scully. I don't know, Ojo. Hey, it's okay. I think I'm going to have to pass, Ocho. Yeah, you know, you're going to pass out. Your ass don't come to the goddamn show with me. I know that.

Go ahead, though, Joe. I just think, I think that at this time right now, for the main of 2025, you know, my probation, I've been, you know, I check it with my parole laws all the time. I'm on. Hey, boy, that, hey, that Wi-Fi over there, choppy, boy. Oh, you couldn't hear me? Nah, it's going in and out.

Oh. I'm not on... Hey, hey, chat. So anyway, I got tickets for me and Unp. We're going to the NBA Young Boy Show. I got him some Carhart overalls. He real buff, so I got him like a 2X. And he don't have to wear no shirt.

He don't have to wear no shirt. I got the lime green bandana, right? He's going to put the lime green bandana underneath. And so on the way to the concert, I'm going to put on some NBA young boy music so he can get acclimated to what it's going to be like in the arena. Now, we're going to be in the front row with all the Y-Ns, right? But I got onto security because he got bad hips. he got bad hips right so i'm going to make sure you all right the security going to stand in between him so he don't fall over because you know everybody be going crazy you know in the front boom we're going to be

all right i just want him to experience this because um don't live the way he should be living like he's alive but he ain't living so i'm going to get him out there to bring him back to his roots they're bringing back home you know to make sure he stay grounded and and he need this he needs something different He needs something different in his life I understand you want to go to church He can bring his Bible He can bring his Bible to the show Matter of fact

We can have a prayer And be a young boy And the whole group He can lead the prayer Before the show So you get you knocking out Two birds Oh yeah

You want to be You want to be Godlike And you can have some fun And get turned up With the young With the white hands And that's what we're going to do And I just need

I just need to get him out the house Get him out the house, man. Lift his spirits up a little bit. That's it. But what's that? It's a baby bread. Huh? It's scripture.

It's scripture for the day. Well, get me, read me a scripture real quick. Read me a scripture real quick. Second. The remaining teachable in God. After Cat learned she was pregnant, she dropped out of high school there for her daughter.

15 years later, cat was a working mother up three who dreamed of becoming a licensed beautician with humility and tenacity she became a student again a free gd support program it was humbling to go back to school after so long this teacher was amazing and offering me so much encouragement remaining teachable may be one of the most difficult things we can do the bible speaks of having that opens God's wisdom of two women calling out pastur-byes, wisdom and folly.

Those who listened wisdom received correction with grace. They added their learning and became even wiser. They blatantly walked the right insight that seat themselves at wisdom's table for instructions. Their obedience lead to full life. In contrast to those who listened to folly, hate became corrected or criticized. size.

Man, what the hell you're talking about, man? What was that? What was that? It's a daily bread. It's scripted. Every more, I take this. Where about I go on, Cho?

Let me show you. I'm going to show you the Daily Bread. It's a daily bread. Hey, I want you to work on this. I want you to work on this after the show. You heard me? Hey, chat. Hey, uncle, oh, uncle, he's gone.

I just got to make. We got to get ready for that. a young boy concert put on that all black hey what happened if i play his music chat if i play his music on here will we get in trouble oh we can't okay okay hold on hold on hold on hold on Come on, why is this taking so long? This thing is ancient. Still using yesterday's tech, upgrade to the ThinkPad X1 Carbon, ultra-light, ultra-powerful, and built for serious productivity,

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And twice a week, that is exactly what you're going to get. We're just here to try to give you an NFL perspective a little bit different. Did you see the Colts Pretzel? That was my other big takeaway from me. What was that? Looks like something that should not be sold. Oh, my. So that was my other big cult's takeaway.

They sold that? Yes. Might want to go back to the... At the Colts Stadium. Yeah, I might want to go back to the drawing board on that. Yeah. I thought the shape we had with pretzels was working pretty well. It's worked for generations.

We're just here trying to enjoy it. We hope you all will join us throughout the year. And let's go. I hope I'm as youthful as Pete Carroll is at his age. He's a young 73. He is a young 73. He is Sprott. I wouldn't fight him.

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It's the people. It's the failures. It's the heartache. Listen to The Bright Side on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Cat, if I go to the NBA Young Boy concert, I will have this in hand. I do not leave home without this. So.

sank 20 miles off the coast of Nigeria turning upside down as it fell to the sea floor. Eleven crew members drowned, but the ships cook Harrison O'Kee found an air pocket and waited. He had only one bottle of coat and provisions. Both of a

flashlight died within 24 hours. Through three terrifying days O'Kee was trapped alone in the darkness at the bottom of the ocean. He began to give up hope when divers on a mission to recover dead bodies found him hunkered and shivering in the deep whole. The image of O'Keene alone in the dark for 60 hours is unnerving, he told reporters he still

suffers nightmares from the horrifying ordeal. But can you imagine what it felt like when he saw those divers powerful lamp piercing the darkness? What joy and elation, what hope the prophet Isaiah foretold how when the Messiah came, all the people walking in darkness would see the great light left to our own devices. We live in a land of deep darkness. But in Jesus, a light has drawn. Ocho, you see that, Ocho? That's where your boy is right now. Huh?

Hey, I want you to practice this move right here. It's all you got to do. Yeah. I only do that for the Lord. And it's all the move. Like, if you're here, depending on how your hips feel.

I only do that for the. be in there. Oh, Joe. That's how I am when I'm up in church. Hey, I'm gonna help you with your moves before we go. You heard me? Yeah. We're gonna be in all black.

We're gonna be an all black like this. Nah. Mm-mm. And you got to lay on the flow. You got to lay on the flow like this. Nah, man, I ain't laying on no flow. You just feet up. I'm telling you, hey, you're going to love this, though.

No. You're going to love this. Hey, front row. But you know how much the front row tickets cost me? You're talking about, no. You know how much the front row tickets cost me? And I got you a private charter, too, with security and a driver from the airport. Oh, Cho, oh, Joe.

Come on, nah. It's too late. I didn't pay for it. I didn't pay for it. Hey. you can bring that with you Oh, I'm trying to get my wings on Joe All I think about

See the little baby Lying in a manger On Christmas morning Yeah Hey, that's what Hey, that's what this music is like Listen to NBA young boy We'll give you some wings

No Did you listen to the song Rebels kick it? Is it better now? Ocho, Justin Jefferson would ask how he feels about the consistency and uncertainty at quarterback position during his career. This is what he had to say. All right. You know, to be honest, that's kind of been my whole entire career since I've been here.

So, you know, it's just not really flinching on that type of deal. And that's something that I can't really control. So the only thing that I can't control is going out there. catching the ball and, you know, winning on my routes and making sure that I'm open for the quarterback to see. So it really doesn't matter who's out there throwing the ball. And I'm always I always have confidence in myself and the person throwing the ball that, you know, we're going to make something shake. So it's been difficult, you know, just trying to connect with the one quarterback and, you know, getting that relationship. But at the end of the day, my job is to go out there

and catch the ball and be a open target for my quarterback. I don't like that answer. What you want him to say? I don't like that answer. I don't like that pollinator incorrect bullshit. He just said. I want you to say, I want you to say, look at my numbers. Look at my numbers.

Even with the quarterback carousel, look at what I've been able to do. do. I don't care if was mother Teresa at quarterback. When I'm out there, I'm going to be open. And I'm going to catch whatever you throw as long as you put it in the vicinity. I've been doing this since LSU. I'm from the boo. Can't nothing about who had a quarterback for me? What you're talking about, man? Well, that's what he's, that's

basically what he said. I don't know. I'm Justin Jefferson. I don't like the way he said it. I need you to talk that talk. I need you to walk that walk. I mean, when you add, he should have gritty during the interview. Come on, man. Come on, man. Come on, man.

See, I hate, man. Hey, JJ, don't you ever answer that like that no more. Man, talk your talk, man. Man, one of the best, one of the best four five-year spans we've ever seen. You want a historic pace. You want a historic pace. Talk that talk, what you're talking about? You're from the boot.

LSU's finest, New Orleans's finest. You're talking about it. You better second line your ass in the end zone next time you scope. Second line. It's talking about, man. I mean, it's a good, politic, correct ass. I ain't trying to hear that shit. Do you talk about, man?

Hey, ever since I put this all black on, I'm feeling real like, I'm feeling real dangerous right now, boy. I'm feeling real dangerous. I'm feeling like when the Y ends right now. Right now I'm feeling like an OM, an old man. Don't worry about it. Christ is the light of the world. In him, we need never again fear darkness,

for he have light of life we may feel trapped or hopeless alone and in despair but God illuminates good news Jesus carries out of some darkness and into his marvelous light Ocho Yo

What's that? That's all I'm saying Ocho I'm I'm I'm doing the right thing Ocho Yeah and the right thing the right thing, the right thing to do? Like, I know you, listen, I know you're trying to walk. I know you're trying to walk by faith.

I know you're trying to do the right thing. I know you're trying to go in the right direction. But listen, you got to have a healthy balance. You got to have no healthy balance with that. You get to have a healthy balance. Oh, Lord. Listen, you could go on that path you want to go on after the concert. No, no, no.

After the concert. I haven't started the journey, Ocho. Hey, with that journey going to end real fast, you don't go to this concert. And I'm telling you, I'm going to jump on you like a chicken on the June bug, right? Ocho, let me live, man. Let me walk in the straight and narrow.

After the concert. Jackson Dart was asked if he had a chip on his shoulder playing against the saint, a team that could have taken in with the night, picking the draft. DART said, I think there's always a chip on your shoulder anytime something like that happens. I thought my visit with them went good. So you kind of have thoughts in your head in the draft.

What options are really realistic? And I definitely felt that that was a place that I could have panned out. But things didn't work out that way. He should be thankful. Right. He didn't go there. I look the money

okay on your top you know top 10 pick you know money I get it but come on bro if you make it if you make it in New York do you understand

what you can become what you'll be listen you you'll be hey you went in New York look at the people that went in New York look at Jeter

look at Strayhand look at it Eli. Can you imagine if Aaron Judge would have win a World Series? I give you an example. L.T. Legend. Reggie Jackson.

You'll never have to pay for anything ever again. Oh. You'll never have to pay for anything ever again in that city, boy. I think, Ocho, I think, like, when you go around on these visits and, you know, you, you know, you're highly rated and you're like, yeah, man. And, you know, and look, what they're supposed to tell you?

They're going to tell you, yeah, ain't nobody tell you, no, if you're available, we're not going to take you. And they're probably, you know, hey, if you're there, we're going to take you. So, you know, obviously, you know, that didn't happen. I think he ended up in a great spot. He gets an opportunity to play. He played well Sunday.

Each week, hopefully he gets better. He grows. better at playing the position. He learns the offense even better. The guy steps up for him and play really well. But it's just, it's natural. It's natural. Ocho, we was talking about it when we first started this chat about all the

that didn't want to deal with us when we weren't who we were now. Right. So yeah, you got a chip on your shoulder. Oh, you ain't think, you don't think I'm good enough. So say, y'all don't think I'm good enough to beat your quarterback. Right. Lamar said, look, Lamar said, look, you know,

when Time asked him with the network, he's like, hey, you can see the hurt on his face. Like, hey, they're going to get my bed. They're going to get a Super Bowl out of me. Now, he's got them two MVP's. But, you know, he plays, like, all y'all that passed over me. Right. I got something for y'all.

Every time. And it should. That's just the way it is. It's natural. it is it's a natural feeling when you get passed over by the job ocho oh y'all don't think i'm good enough okay yeah sometimes it's a good thing sometimes it's a good thing to get passed over and have that chip on your shoulder to prove those who pass over you wrong also proving yourself right that's what you want to do go back and read the store how sam walton how it's Walmart oh yeah he bought the company

he built, this company, he ran the company, built it back up, asked him to sell it to him, they wouldn't. So he said, you know what I do? I'm going to start my own. Put him out of business. Yeah. Now look at it. Yeah.

I mean, you're going to look at it. I mean, the one that owns the Broncos worth like $120 billion, got a sister worth $115 billion. Another one worth $111 billion. Yeah. Ah, come on, why is this taking so long? This thing is ancient. Still using yesterday's tech, upgrade to the ThinkPad X1 Carbon,

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Presented by Capital One, founding partner of IHeart Women's Sports. I'm Simone Boyce, host of the Brightside podcast, and on this week's episode, I'm talking to Olympian, World Cup Champion, and podcast host, Ashlyn Harris. My worth is not wrapped up in and how many things I've won. Because what I came to realize is I valued winning so much that once it was over, I got the blues, and I was like, this is it. For me, it's the pursuit of greatness. It's the journey.

It's the people. It's the failures. It's the heartache. Listen to the bright side on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Yeah. My goodness. Garrett Wilson was asked what he'd say to the people out there wondering why he decided to extend with the Jets and not go somewhere else.

I got to go home at night. Feel good about the decision I make and love. And I love it here, man. These people have brought me into me since I was a college kid. And this fan base that drove me, have dove into me. This is where I want to be. This is where I want to win at. for me it's about where you do it at what role did you play in that and i truly believe because

that's the thing that guys have been around here have gone through these last few years and what we're battling to get out of it it makes it that much more beautiful i don't ever want to lose sight lose that or lose faith i like it and in his decision also to stay is i'm that guy i can be that they need in New York. I can be the difference maker. I can be the one they can count on at the wide receiver position as wide receiver number one. I'm that guy.

I show you that I can do my rookie year. Now we have a quarterback in Justin Field where I can continue building on my rookie year. Right. I'm that guy. I'm him. Him. I like it.

I like it too. I like it. Put somewhere else and do what? Start all over again? So you turn down $100 plus million to go somewhere else in two years. Man, I ain't promised no two years. I'm going to get this money right now. I'm here.

I'm comfortable. The fans love me. Yeah, would I love to have a quarterback that's stable and not have 15 different guys throwing to me all the, yes, sure. But I built a foundation here. And what's to say where I go somewhere else? I mean, it's not like teams that that's winning. got money to play another receiver, Ocho.

The Rams got to pay Pooka Nakuwa. So where is he going to go? Go to Cleveland? Like they winning more than the Jets. He's in a right... Seattle, they got receivers. Tampa Bay got receivers. So where is he going to go

that they're winning that's going to give him the kind of money that he's making? I love what he said. Like, hey, I want to be here. When we win, I want to be a part of the process. Hey, I'm excited. I'm excited.

Shaquille Leonard, formerly known as Darius Leonard. Shaquille Leonard is returning to Indianapolis to the tires of coat. The three-time first team, all-pro linebacker, and 2018 defensive rookie of the year will attend the Sunday's game against the Raiders at Lucas Oil Stadium to make the retirement official. Sadly, Shaq suffered from two back surgeries in the span of five months in 2022. The surgeries

were meant to correct nerve issue in Leonard's back, but he was never able to return to all pro form, Mocho. And surprising draft pick coming out of South Carolina State, Leonard took the league by storm. South Carolina State long oh,

oh man, produced four Hall of Famers, Marion Motley, Deacon Jones, Harry Carson, Donnie Shale, despite a short career, where do you think Dary's Leonard ranked as the greatest defensive players they ever come out on in the HBCU? Wow, oh, we got some.

We got to, because you got to think about a lot of the guys Ocho in the beginning, that's what they came out of with black colleges. Yeah, yeah. So you got a, obviously the ones they mentioned, what's the guy, the linebacker from,

Sugar Bear from Kansas City Chief, he went to Maryland Eastern Shore. I mean, you got Ed Too Tall Jones went to Tennessee State. I think Tombstone

Jackson. Man. He was a piece phenomenal. I really, the only time I ever saw him play in college, he played against Clemson. And he was all over the field. Yeah, I think he had like 20 tackles against Clemson. And you're like, okay, this kid can play.

Because if you can do that, look, you're vastly, you know, they got, Clemson has superior athletes. And here he is all over the field. Because if you, if you go to a, let's just say you go to an HBCU or FBS team like that, don't you know, when they cut the film on, you got to stand out. Oh, yeah, absolutely. So they cut the film on and they're looking at somebody else.

They're like, well, damn, who is that kid? Who is? Yeah. Damn. He made another tackles. I mean, in the third quarter, he got 17 tackles. Do you understand, Ocho, how good you have to be to leave it, to go from an, in today's game, go for an HBCU. When they got, think about how much money they put.

into these programs now, the NIL money that they got and all the money that they throwed at these kids and all these coaches that they got for an HBCU kid to get drafted, to make a team. Do you know how special you've got to be? Yeah. Deris Lennel was phenomenal. And it's very unfortunate that his career got cut short

because of that back injury. You know, a lot of times, you know, sometimes guys have back surgery. and they get to return to normal, but sometimes they go in that back, Ocho, and the guy's never the same. Never the same. You don't know.

You don't know. But for a five or six-year stretch, he was as good as their words in the NFL. I mean, you're talking about a guy, a three-time first team, all-pro, defensive rookie of the year, multiple-time pro-bow player. He was phenomenal.

It was nice. That back injury robbed him. Huh? How long did that? Luke Keekley play? I think Keekley played like seven, eight years. Okay. So similar. Similar.

Keekley was defensive player of the year, defensive rookie of the year. Probably like a five time first, four or five time first team all pro, seven time pro bowl. Yeah, he's phenomenal. And that's dope. But call him the career. Rookie right hand to

Cam Schittler? She's learned. How do you say that last name, Ash? Schlittler struck out 12 in eight dominant innings and the New York Yankees beat their Boston Red Sox. Yes. Four nothing tonight to win the ALCS Wild Car Series into the deciding third game.

Taking his place in the Yankees Red Sox rivalry lure, the 24-year-old pitched the Yankees to the Best Defied Division against Toronto beginning Saturday. Yankees manager Aaron Boone said a star is born tonight he's a special kid bro

sometimes in a rivalry like Red Sox think about it Red Sox Yankees Duke North Carolina Alabama Auburn

you know there are certain rivalries where the guy rise to the occasion and you'll never forget it you'll never you'll never you'll never

you'll never never ever forget right this kid right here did what he did tonight 12 innings and a winner take all against your most hated one of the most bitter rivals in all the sports now you can say Yankees you can say Yankees are Red Sox Duke Carolina Alabama Auburn Raven Steelers yeah but if you look the Packers Bears but if you're talking about history and how far this thing goes back because you got the babe

leaving the Red Sox going to the Yankees. They're in the same division. The L. East. They hate each other. They despise each other. You know the one thing I don't like about when the Red Sox play the Yankees out? Each game take 12 hours.

Baseball take 12 hours. Hey, for some reason, the game is so long when those two play each other specifically. Oh, my goodness. yeah but that kid was that kid was dealing the night he was hey man boy can you boy if erin judge would win a world series hey what's my young bull my young bull that played for the marlins that's there to um give him no he hit home run oh jean carlos then yeah Yeah, them boy is nice, man.

Every time I think about me not sticking with baseball, man. You made the right decision. You remember, I told you, I told you the story, huh? No, but tell us again. You know, in high school, you know, I played football. I couldn't play soccer because soccer and football was during the same time. So my grandma told me, listen, baby, if you think about doing something long term and taking it serious at a professional level, you got to pick and choose.

It is going to be soccer, which I didn't have the resource at the time to take it to the next level. So he's like, well, football got to be your thing. So I took up another sport, and that was baseball. So as a baseball player, we had scouts coming out to watch me pitch. They watched me hit. I was a good slugger. I played in the outfield. I played third base.

Played first. I played shortstop. So they considered me, you know, an elite talent at that time because I could do everything. I could do it all. Yeah, I was a fire tool. I was a five-term. So the Marlins came out there, and they tried to draft me. I was only a sophomore in high school, and I never forget, 1992.

So the Marlins was watching me. So by the time I graduated, right when I graduated, like I was supposed to be part of the Marlins in the minor league, and I would have been part of that 1997 World Series team that won. And my uncle, my uncle was on that team, Charles Johnson. He was the catch at the time, but I chose to play football. Interesting. And that's when I went to Lankson.

So I went to Lansing when I really could have been on the Marlins roster. Yeah, they say you were the 5-2. Mop, broom, lawnmower, edger, rake. Nah, no, no, no. I would really that boy in high school, I'm telling you. Baseball? Hey, baseball, I had four pitches. I had four pitches.

That was money. Curve ball, two-finger fastball. I had a slide out of this world. You hear me? I had a knuckle ball. Hey, when I throw my knuckle ball, it goes like this. And it dropped. Boom, I had an unbelievable knuckleball, boy.

That's kind of what most knuckle balls do. But, okay, I like that. So you had a two-scene fastball, not a four-scene. Yeah, no, two-scene. Yeah, two-sene, just like this. That's how I throw it. Just like that. I hold it just like that.

And then I had another pitch. I had another pitch. Cut fastball? My grandma. Now, I wouldn't go cut fastball. Lurve? No, I nicknamed it. I call it the, oh, hell, no.

Yeah, because when I throw it, when I throw it, and it hit the catch of mid. The catch, you're like, damn, oh, hell, no. Yeah. Hey, I threw about a hundred and two, huh? Hundred and two. Hey, that, hey, that old hell gnaw pitch. Any, anytime I get in the jam, anytime I get in the jam,

you know, the count three, three and two, bass is loaded, I go to that old hell now. Well, well, you, you should have stayed with that. The San Diego Padres lost 3-1 to the Chicago Cubs in game three in the wild cards and was eliminated from the playoffs. In the top of the night, home play umpire, DJ Rayburn called Alexander Bogart. out on strikes and what should have been called ball for.

The Padres weren't happy with the unbying crew and made sure they knew about it as they left the field. Ocho, take a look at this video. Yeah, let me see that thing. Let me see that thing. Damn. Oh, whoa, whoa. Oh, those players, those are players?

yeah going after the umpire yeah oh man what's it called rob manfred going to go going to put some going to put something till y'all yeah listen he'll he's going to drop that gavel he's going to drop that hammer yeah dropped that hammer but listen whatever whatever he does come up with as um as consequences it's not going to go into effect until next year good y'all okay hey okay that's a suspended sentence you'll go got a serve you don't got a surre till the next year you still got to go you still got to pay that fine yeah something because you can't have yeah yeah and i get it ocho there i mean i don't know i don't know if i've ever been a part of something so egregious that would right you know

i hated to lose yeah but to lose just something so egregious uh you know you're like give a prime example you remember the rams and the saints the guy from the Saints interfered with the guy, Ray. Oh, 43, 43, what was his last name? Williams. I mean, that was, that was so egregious. That was so egregious.

Yeah. No call. Now, you know, had I been, if I'd have been, yes, I'd have been, I would have been livid as Sean Peyton was. And if I can just imagine being a player, because you robbed the team of an opportunity to get to the Super Bowl. Yeah.

So you're absolutely right. I mean, I don't even know that wasn't even close. He didn't even look and hit the guy way before the ball got there. I don't know what the ball. I don't know what the real. But.

You know, it's situations like that. It's plays like that, that also make people believe the game is rigged. Yes. Yes, you're absolutely right. And that's the thing. You and I know we play the game. We know it's not read,

but people see egregious plays like that. Played like that with no call. You're absolutely right, Ochoo. You're absolutely right. You're going to make it no better. All right, Ocho, Cho. It's time for our final signal on the evening.

It's time for Q and 8. Hey, tell me what pitch you want. Throw me a cut fastball. Cut fastball? All right. Man, how much lifetime you think you got? I got eight seconds. What, that's 25 seconds, man.

How you know I got to take my time, man? You stole second, third and home on you. Not really because I checked second base. I checked second base. I ain't seen you look. I look back. I saw you step off the bag and balk. That's what I did see you do.

Jason Zeldorf said what Rex Ryan said about Sanders is 100% right. It's easy for him to run his mouth on the bench when there is an NFL defense coming for your head. He hasn't proven a deep thing yet. Pro football has a way of humbling you up. Well, he didn't went through the humbling stage already. of them. He didn't went to that part already. So listen, I'm going to talk my

trash until I get in there and all I got to do is back it up. And when it comes to backing it up, it's something I've been doing all my life, playing football. That's it. You know what? Let me ask you a question, Ocho. Did it seem like because Rex, look, I'm surprised

because Rex was the D.C. When Time was on the team at the Raiders, I mean, at the Raven. Yeah. For him to say, sit in the front row, it almost seems like he's speaking from like somebody told him that he doesn't sit in the front row. Doesn't it seem like that?

Because I mean, I wouldn't, how would you know where somebody sits? How would you know? How does he know he's not sitting in the front row? He probably does. Every quarterback sits in the front row on. I don't even know why he said that. He was just talking.

He was just yapping. But that's what I'm saying. It seems like, man, I mean, he's talking like somebody. Because you know how people talk. Mocho, coaches, but you know how people talk, Coacho. Yeah. Mm-hmm.

So. I just wanted to get a chance. That's all. That's all. But, you know, I think the thing is that when you say you can do something and you haven't done it yet, you put a lot of pressure.

You put a lot of pressure on yourself. I like it. That's why you've got to believe in yourself. Yes. You got to believe yourself. When you believe in yourself, you talk like that. Now, all you got to do, when you talk like that, you've got to walk it.

Bingo. Wolf had Fax said Ocho, I'll be in your jersey at game Sunday, even though my team don't play in Cincinnati until December. Hope you can sign it. Hey, hold on. Let me show you something.

Let me show you my jersey. Hold on. What jersey this man got? Hey, oh, remember the leaping tiger? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I got me a T. Higgins was made. Oh, so, oh, I thought that's the jersey they're going to play.

Man, I thought you. Nah, this is a jersey from the 80s, but I put T. Higgins on you. Yeah. Yeah. And we, and we're going to beat the last. That ain't happening. Jay J.J. said, I like that he went for it, but I don't like the play that he called. I do too.

I mean, look. If he throws a pay, look, unless he got it on fourth down, everybody was going to be excited. If he throws it and doesn't get it, they say, why don't you run Kyra Williams? You run it with Kyra Williams, and he doesn't get you, say, man, but your guy got damn there 400 yards.

You got Pooka and the Tukua, you got Devonte Adams, and you got Atwell. And you can't get one. You know what I would have did? I'm not Sean McVeigh. I'm not an officer coordinator. But what I would have done is whoever the titan was at that time, I'm going with the quick play action fake and make them think

I'm giving it to the Kyron Williams. And I'm going to dump it right over. Remember that play Tim Tebow, Ram when it was that fraud? Jump past. Yeah, I would have did something like that. threw everybody off. Timothy Humphrey, if the Rams kicker had made the extra point, we're not even talking about the last play call.

Hell, if that was the case, what about all those kicks that he missed the previous week? Do you remember how many did the Eagles block? Paul Third said, be real. The Rams, one and two bad teams, one and two bad teams lost in Philly, almost lost to the Colts, are the Rams getting over high.

No, I think the Rams are a really good team. I really do. Very good team. They're not overhyped at all. Absolutely not. But you've got to realize, I mean, the margin of error is really small in the NFL. They say college football

where teams be beating teams by 14 and 21. Nah, the margin of error is really small. And it's the little fine thing, you know, a block putt, a block field goal, or miss this or miss that, is the difference in the ball game. And you know what's so funny, when you talk about the difference in the ball game,

a lot of people probably won't realize, but they break it down for us, coaches say it all the time. Let's say you have a game where you run 80 plays. Out of those 80 plays, you know, it's only two or three plays that make a difference in the ball game. Two or three plays. And it's so funny how Marvin would bring us in and break it down

and show us how many plays we run and then break down the three plays that actually made a difference in the ball game completely. And it is crazy. And your car said, facts are, ain't no one want to see Bengals on Thursday night football. And don't. Whoa, whoa, whoa.

Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, simmer down, because y'all wouldn't have this energy right now if Joe Burrow was healthy and have the same energy. Josiah thrown up, your own coach, Mike Shanahan said, don't let Purdy out of the building, and Matt Jones is a statue in the pocket. Okay, he's athletic enough.

You act like Brockford. Yeah, you make it seem like he, Jalen Hertz, or Josh Allen or Lamar. Come on, bro. The hell are you talking about. Tighten up, tighten up, shit. Well, you don't see me with this all black on? Little Pete 29 said, what's up other note you'll love to show?

Rank these groups, Temptations, Isley brothers, OJs, and the Dales. Woo-hoo-hoo. What you know about the Dells, boy? Isley Brothers for me. First? Over the temptations? Over the OJs and the Dells. I would go, Isleys.

It's a toss-up between the temptations than the OJ's. Listen, I'm going with the temptations first. Absolutely. Tim Temptation first. Listen, stay with me real quick. Now, this is my era. This is my error. Now, he got me hyped up.

He got me hyped up with this question. I'm going with the temptations first. I got the Isley second. I got the OJ's third. I got the Dells four. OJ. Isles. Isley's a one.

No, sir. No, sir. That's not even your music. You don't even listen to that. I listen to that. That's my music. First of all, I know the eyes was one. Now, Trill Brown said,

in your prime, what team in today's game would have given you the best advantage? When they thought you the tight end, all of them would have gave me an advantage, Jocho. Everybody used the tight end now. Absolutely. Because all these guys are athletic.

And what, look, the only difference between when I played and now, there are more guys to do it. They're only a handful of guys that were in the 90s. They're only a handful of guys can do it. You had maybe three, four guys, tops. That was a legit receiving thread at the tight end position. Now, now? You got 10, 15 of these guys.

Game is changed. They throw the ball. I'm not saying tight ends couldn't catch back then, but wasn't nobody designing no play, really designed no plays. You really had to stand out to get plays called for you at the tight end position.

Right. Man, I see these guys like, they throw the ball to him. Ooh. 97, say, here we go again. Cut one, trade one, Antonio Brown, Calvin Johnson,

Tio. What did you got? Oh, you got two guys. You got, oh, you got, A, B from Miami, you got Megatron and you got T-O. I thought they asked you to do that, not me. No, he didn't ask me, he said, you.

I already know where you going. I bet you I bet you I'd know where you going. Wait, cut, cut trade. Wave. Got Megatron, A, B, T-O. What was the first one? Calvin Johnson. Not the name.

I'm saying the scenario. Cut one. Trade one. Well, damn, you get rid of all of them. I thought you got to keep one. Oh, all right. I'm going to keep, I'm a key T.O. Trade A.B.

I'm cutting Megatron. I know you're going to do that. I do it. Yeah. Hey, y'all better stop asking me. Hey, I don't care. who it is. If it's A.B. It could have been A.B.

Randy Moss and Jerry Rice. He ain't cutting A.B. He ain't cut nobody. So. You know, you know, you know, T.O. That's, that, that's my dog. I know. I know, I, that's what I said. I already know what you was going to do. Yeah.

Cooper de Jong. Oh, Eagles putting BTA on your team Sunday. Ain't happening. We're going to win that game, Moucho. What game? Broncos against the Eagles. Hey, boy, hey, yo, well, made me laugh. Matter of fact, matter of fact, A.J. Brown probably going to get past 13.15, man.

Oh, no, yeah, you know that ain't happening. Might go get 13150, man. Detons said, Angonocho, does the NFL have a poor, lazy coaching, or does it come down to politics? We see so many players go to other situations and prosper. Why do these coaches, franchise, give up on players so quickly? God. Well, it's really not the franchises. It's the system in which they go to.

That's all it is. That's all it is. Look at goddamn Baker-Mayfield, Cleveland. Hello. Look at Sam Donald in New York. Look at San Donald in Minnesota. Hello. Hell.

Look at Daniel Jones. Prime example. New York, the Indianapolis. Man, play out his goddamn mind, man. Cause, bro. It's too much money. they're not letting you develop. Not when I got to pay you

$300 million at the end of three years. I'm not. And Brady just talked about that. Yes. He just talked about that. Not giving players time to develop because of the investment that you have to put into them

after year three. Reggie Brown said, oh, can you imagine Kyle with an elite quarterback, Matt Ryan MVP? Yes. Yes. Yes, Matt Ryan was a statue.

Matt Ryan got to a Super Bowl. Had a 283 lead. Yeah. Running the ball. Buzz, like your 12 says, if you could go back and play baseball instead, what position and what team would you want to play for? Yankees.

Also, let me get your World Series predictions for this million dollar parlay I'm about to hit. Oh, I'm playing for the Yankees. and play right field I'm playing right field I can throw the ball from right field. I can throw the ball from

right field the home plate ball. going to hit the ground on the can be gone to hit the ground you know that pitch you say you got oh hell no yeah no you ain't got no you ain't got no you ain't got no you ain't got no you ain't got no man man all the rocks that threw over top of them big ass pine trees hell no man look at don't take my parley because i bet i bet i bet i go with my heart I'm taking the Yankees.

Ooh, that's a good one. That's a good one. He said, oh, I had a similar injury to your brother, big bro, sturted, fur-herniated disc in the cervical C-2 through C-6 at the same age he was. My question to you is, how's he doing, and how does it affect him day-to-day at the age he is now? He's fine.

I mean, he played golf. I mean, so he don't do anything other than that. Now, right now he's down nine because he had another surgery for his retina, had another eye surgery, but he's fine. He hadn't had any problems. I mean, he had a hip replaced.

Oh, he's about to get his knee replaced. So he's about to get his knee replaced in the next six months. But no, he got around fine. No, he didn't, he didn't have any ill effects. No problem. He never complained about anything. I don't know. they took a bone out of his hip and infused it.

And so obviously, you know, he doesn't have, he can't, you know, whip his neck around like that. But, but no, he finds. P.M. 4 said, do you think Rod Smeasy Smith took away from your jawist's chemistry? Nah, hell, nah. Now, look, it's only a certain amount of, look, you only get so many years as being number one. Look at Jerry.

young guys come they're going to eat you know ideas man I'm the Saragetty them young lions come you gotta move out of the way I was I was happy because I knew how hard he worked to get in that position and I knew you know look I'm gonna do what I do but nah hell nah Rob was it was ready and hell

and hell when I got up the way and went to a Baltimore not look at it 100 catch back to back season 1,600 yards. All first team, all, no, no, nah, hell not. Rob was ready to do his thing. Aaron Jones said, oh, we have a different OC every year.

How can it get solved when the system changes every year? Petula has been bad, but it's only four games. Yes. I mean, it's pretty much the same system because he was up under, you know, the guy. Now, I don't know because, and more system was different than stiking. You know what I'm saying?

So that's what happens. When you're good, teams come steal your coaches. Team comes steal your players. That's what happens. You want that. I mean, yeah, that means you have a really good coaching staff, and that means you have really good players. He's lost in the last,

What, what, three years, four years, he's lost two OCs and a D.C. Yeah, that's what happens. When you're good, people come steal your players. Dagnati Cobbins, some families function better with a little dysfunction. Fly Eagles fly. Maybe you're right. You like that. Beard game 268 said, oh, you always say never accept anything in a win.

You wouldn't have lost. Why should A.J. Brown accept Lack. luster passing game. But that's how their offense is set up. They're not equipped. See, you're asking them to be something that they're not. Oh, Cho, can you

tell them they're not going to let Jalen Hurst throw that ball 35, 40 times a game? Unless they have to. And both of the times, the only way they have to is if they're behind in the game. And how often are they behind? Not very often. They were behind it. They were behind.

What was that? The Rams. Yeah, we three. And that was the game, AJ went off. We're crazy. So, bag on hands on. Oh, Joe, if you flew to Cincinnati

to give that SIR team a pep talk, you have too much disposable income. Don't waste your money when you owe $5,900. I agree. Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. I use that $5900 for the NBA young boys. I ain't asked for that.

Oh, hey, I know you didn't. But God told me to get them. God told me to get them. God said, take that money, take that money and pay up. It's too late. I'm going to see you October 13th in Miami. Hey, matter of fact, guess who just text me? Top.

Who? Top. Can be a young boy. He's watching the show. He said he appreciate the support. He can't wait to see you. The only top I know is a curly top, former bodybuilder. Nah, his name's top.

His name's talk. Oh, you got to get hip, man. You got to get hip. That's going to pass me by. What he is now. Samuel LeGrand said, Unk, uh, uh, Wi-Fi is cooked like Ocho had Ocho satellite, Tio crying about his quarterback.

Uh, Rishad Vaughn said, all YB fans put it 38 in the chat. What'd that mean? Yeah, YB fan put a 30 in the chat. No, don't put a 30 in the chat. Y'all try to get YouTube to take out money. Don't put no 30 in the chat. Oh, no, no, no.

30, it ain't nothing bad. We ain't talking about that kind of 38. Don't nobody use that no more. Fames, Fames, Thames, Tim's. Oh, Tim's, that damn, Fames. Tim, I might have to send y'all some night quill between Ocho's voice, unc sniff it every time he makes a point.

Something must be going around. That's my signature. You know what I get? Mm-hmm. That's my tail. When I know how to hit that out of dread that point home. Yeah. That might be.

Shotty T. said, uh, got that southern, southern home Wi-Fi. Y'all, I don't know what happened. That's the first time it's really happened like this here. I don't know what's going on.

Maybe everybody else on their Wi-Fi tonight. DC Alex 24. Come on, Unc, and Ocho. Y'all know Lamb is top three. Three-time All-Pro. back, and that's what Dak being hurt in 24.

I mean, look, I think Chase and Jetta are to talk to. Now we start, I mean, you know, Amit Ross St. Brown, before Tyree got hurt, AJ, CD, uh, I'm trying to think, who, who we're missing?

Pochow. Pooka, Nakua. Pooka. Pooka about to get paid, don't you? We absolutely. The Pook about to get paid. Absolutely. Hey, fam.

Dr. Frankie L. Bellamy say, hey, fam. Have you ever heard of Josh Gibson? I absolutely have. Most home runs, over 800 home runs in the Negro League. Satchel Page, two of the most absolute best baseball players in history. You're absolutely right. I think Satchel Paige pitched the game at 59. Because, you know, before it, you know, they were old, Ocho, before they, you know, the, uh, the, uh, the, uh, the first black player. That was 47 when Jackie Robinson broke the color barrier. And then I think Larry Dobie was the next one. And then you started getting, you know, infiltration a little bit after that. But by that time, Ocho, them guys were old. Yeah. So their best years was spent in a Negro league. We didn't get their absolute, you know, the absolute best. I'm not so.

sure Jackie Robinson was the best player, but he was the best player for that time because you had to swallow a lot. You had to take a lot. You had to deal with the pause. I know y'all said some bulljive, but, Ocho, you had to listen to the ends. You had to listen, you know,

not being able to eat in a restaurant with your team. There's a lot of stuff that you had to go through and everybody wasn't built like that back then. Yeah. So you have to pick and chew like, okay, because it's like, Like when Coach Robinson said the guy, he said, look here, I think tank younger. He said, look, you're the best we got.

If you don't make it, they ain't going to come get nobody else. So in order for others to get an opportunity, Jackie had to take a lot. He had to take a lot. That concludes this episode of night. We want to thank each and every one of you for joining us again. Y'all know who I am. I'm your favorite uncle, Shannon Sharp, and that is my partner and co-host, Liberty City's own, Bengals, Ring of Fame, Honorary Pro Bowl, or All-Pro, Chad Ocho

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