Club Shay Shay - Nightcap - Hour 2: Elway's biggest regret, Aaron Rodgers future

Episode Date: July 30, 2024

Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson discuss John Elway's biggest regret, Aaron Rodgers' hopes for his future with the New York Jets, and debate which one can lift more weight in the gym!02:49 - The Athletic: John Elway, not taking Josh Allen was a mistake11:40 - Wild Boy: Mack Hollins13:56 - Aaron Rodgers, I’d still like to have 2 great years19:12 - Top 10 Sports Anthems23:45 - Spell-O Cinco28:12 - Dunk on Unc38:43 - Q and Ayyyy(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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and deposit restrictions, terms, and responsible gaming resources. It goes that way sometimes. Oh, Joe. John Elway helped the Bronco team that won five straight AFC West titles, made two Super Bowl appearances, and captured the Super Bowl

in his 10th season as general manager. He peered on Pardon My Take Today and said not selecting Josh Allen in 2018 in the NFL draft was his biggest mistake of the GM. The Broncos had number five pick in the draft and used it to select North

Carolina state pass, Russia, Bradley chub Allen, who played two hours away from Denver in Wyoming was selected by the bills. Seven. Got to take a quarterback. Got to take quarterback.. Got to take a quarterback. You got to.

Wait a minute. Do me a favor. Run that back again. The selections. He had the number five pick. He took Bradley Chubb. Chubb. Seven, two picks later,

Josh Allen goes to Buffalo. At that time, what did the Broncos need? A quarterback. Who was the quarterback when Bradley Chugback drafted? Was it Trevor Simeon? Who was there? Because they had gotten rid of Brock Osweiler. I remember Brock.

had gotten rid of Brock Osweiler. I remember Brock. I remember Brock. Yeah. You know, normally, especially with a pick that high, the team's always the need. What is our need? They had Case Keenum.

Yeah, you see how you put your head to the side? So Case Keenum, that previous season before that draft, he must have had a good year. I'm just saying, he had to have had a good year where they felt, okay, that position right

now is good enough. He's played well enough. Not the greatest. No, Ocho. I'm just telling you. Think about this, Ocho. Look at Alex Smith. He was getting the Kansas City Chiefs to the playoffs every year. Andy Reid, the pick, zoomed up the draft board, traded two first rounders and a third to select Patrick Mahomes.

Mahomes, yeah. You don't pass on those guys if you get an opportunity to get one. Don't pass on those guys. If you get an opportunity to get one. That was that was them. So so maybe a listen. Do you think who was in that draft? It was a no brainer that you just can't pass up.

Did they not feel Josh Allen was worthy of that pick? Because if he was, they would have taught my take. Maybe like I said. I thought it was a mistake at the time. Right. Probably cost him his GM ship in Denver. You had Vaughn. Your problem was

you couldn't score. Yeah. It don't matter how great your defense is. At some point in time, they're going to have an off game. Team's going to get 14. A team's going to get 17. But if you only can score 10, you're going to lose.

Damn. Baker Mayfield was first. Saquon Barkley was third. Sam Darnold was – no. Saquon was second. Sam Darnold was third. Denzel Ward was fourth. Bradley Chubb was fifth.

Quentin Nelson was sixth. Josh Allen was third. Denzel Ward was fourth. Bradley Chubb was fifth. Quentin Nelson was sixth. Josh Allen was seventh. Roquan Smith was eighth. Mike McGlitchy was ninth. Josh Rosen was tenth. Lamar Jackson was 32nd. I bet you if he could redo that draft

all over and teams knew what Lamar Jackson was, what pick you think he would have went? You want me to lie or you want me to tell you the truth? I want you to tell me the truth. I don't like when you lie to me. I think if they redo this draft, I think they would take Josh Allen in front of Lamar.

People, for whatever reason. Even what you, because you know, so far today, because they look at Lamar and say, well, he, I don't know what else Lamar can do. He's gone just as far as Josh Allen.

He's more, he's F I mean, with it, take this, take Patrick Mahomes of the young quarterbacks, guys that are 28, 29, between 28, 29, and 23. Take Patrick Mahomes out of the equation.

Lamar is the only one in that group that got MVPs. I'm missing something. Think about it. When it comes down to when they say, okay, top five quarterback. Lamar's never one. He's never two because Joe Burrow always goes to. Right. And people take

Justin Herbert over him. The guy that had a 27 point lead and got the cost it up. Justin Herbert? Yes! Or Lamar Jackson? People do.

I don't... They never ask. They never ask me. Who... Chat, where is that? Didn't somebody just put a list out of the top five quarterbacks?

I think somebody put a list out of the top 10 quarterbacks. Ask me to try to find it that's crazy you think about it Sam Darnold is on his what third 14 four he was at the Jets he was at

Carolina the 49ers now he's on wherever he's at Mahomes one Burrow two Josh Allen three Lamar four knowing what you just said

knowing what we know now they still put Josh Allen in front of Lamar that's crazy I'm just saying and listen Josh is great though lamar is great two different two different type of quarterbacks they both they both get the job done the same you know they both get the job but they make it seem like josh has been to like superbowl he's a lost he's

won or been to and lost a couple of superbowl he hasn't hell he hadn't even been to he hadn't even been to a championship at least the market say can say, well, hell, I've been to an AFC championship game. I've won two MVPs. I've been first team all pro twice. Josh Allen is good, though. If he could just start. If he knock off them

turnovers, if he can stop turning the ball over, but then he's also a gunslinger because of his arm strength, because he knows he's so good at throwing the ball, he takes chances. Yeah, unnecessary though. Exactly.

ESPN.com, we put the ranking from ESPN.com. I mean, go to any site. I mean, whatever you want to, pro football focus, I mean, what's the site. I mean, whatever you want to, pro football focus. I mean, what's the other site? Sports Illustrated, Bleacher Report, and see. The only thing I don't think we have any questions about is, number one,

who's going to debate that? Who would even take their pencil to put someone above Mahomes, given what he's done in six years as a starter the man has been to four Super Bowls he's won three two five thousand yard seasons and he's a three time Super Bowl MVP so who you nobody your pen would just start your pen

would just start scratching you try to write somebody name a quarterback one over Mahomes your friend is just like nah I ain't writing that yeah dang so the thing is the name of quarterback one over my home, your friend is just like, nah, I ain't writing that. Yeah. Dang. So, the thing is, Josh Allen, if you look at it, Ocho, and you played

against this guy, he's a more athletic Big Ben. Oh, shoot. When you put it like that, he is. But early in his career, what did they do for Big Demian they played

outstanding defense and they let Jerome Bettis and Willie Parker do what they do right being developed being developed

into the passer that he became they didn't just turn the keys over to him right away right damn that's a good comparison like that a more athletic that's who he is yeah Turn the keys over to him right away. Right. Man, that's a good comparison like that.

A more athletic man. Yeah. Much, much, much more athletic. Yeah. Oh, he can hit his head on the goalpost from 50. Oh, yeah. Absolutely. Absolutely.

You let him get a jump on you, you ain't gonna catch him. Oh, nah, nah, nah, nah, no no and he'll run your butt over you see how many hot guys he run people over man that dude's six five six six probably like 250 255 yep easy so bill's wide receiver mac hollins doesn't wear shoes or use utensil thinks small cats steal your soul and hasn't eaten a vegetable in three years is Mac Hollins the most interesting man in the NFL

no he's not he just doesn't wear shoes we see that all the time when people leave the club women and their heels hurt they don't wear their shoes I ain't see no guy doing no shit I ain't seen no guy doing no shit. Excuse me.

I ain't seen no guy doing no ish like that. Yeah, but he's just wearing it. I mean, he's just wearing no shoes. You ever see a guy leave the club with his shoes in his hand? No, but I've seen a lot of people walk barefoot, though. A lot of people. Not leaving the club. I see women.

No, but I just use the club as an example on just seeing people walk barefoot, not leaving the club i see women no but i just use i just use the club as an example on just seeing people walk barefoot not having shoes on but mac man it's i don't he's not the most interesting in the league absolutely not not because he's doing that hell nah man i don't walk so many i don't even walk in my own house barefooted oh i always have on socks i got on i wear crocs in my house. I have to wear, you know, I got slides, protective stuff that you put over your feet that you can walk in. If you want to wear your shoes,

you can wear those or you can just wear your socks. Yeah. My house too cold. You know, I AC, I AC stay on 60. Man, I was like, ooh. Yeah, man. He's different. He's different. Yeah. He he's different by you know but

based on what he does and what he's doing but not most interesting nice it's too many it's too many interesting individuals in the nfl to say that he's interesting because he's doing that no not even not even close yeah but like i said i've like you said i I've seen women go to club and they've been in them red bottoms or they've been in shoes, them heels, standing in those heels for hours and hours. As soon as they get outside, they off.

Yeah. They off. I've never seen a guy come out of the club and he got to take his sneakers off or he take his hard bottoms off. I ain't never seen, I I've never seen a guy come out of the club and he got to take his sneakers off or he take his hard bottles off. I ain't seen that. Now maybe chat, maybe you guys have seen that,

but I still haven't seen it. Uh, the New York jets window is very small. Rogers had initially hope for two great years with the jets with the chance to win the super bowl. But after his injury last season, the clock is ticking louder than ever Roger said today I would say there was a lot of sentiment that last year wasn't a great year for me I'd still I'd like to still have two great years what you mean it wasn't a great year Ocho you went down four snaps until

your first game what you mean it wasn't great it was incomplete it was nothing yeah I mean that would attest to him saying it wasn't a great year because he wasn't able to play no he said

there's a lot of sentiment that last year wasn't a great year for me. It wasn't! Yeah. Chad, am I confused? I mean, if you go,

if I'm supposed to do X, Y, and Z, and let's just say for the sake of argument, Ocho, you and I, we're going to start, we're going to do nightcap. Ten minutes into nightcap, man, Ocho like, man, I can't, I ain't

going to be able to do it all. People are going to say, but Ocho last situation wasn't that good. It wasn't! Bro, you were on the show for ten minutes. Maybe he means well, and he's not It wasn't. Bro, you were on the show for 10 minutes. I mean, maybe he means well. He's not wording what he wants

to get. He's not wording it the right way. Oh, you mean to tell me the guy that has the right words for every situation that's thought about it through and through, use correct words to try to steer? You can add words to certain things to make him say what you want him to say? You want to say yeah

he's not saying it the right way but I know what he can do based on what he said about wanting to play two more years if that Achilles holds up if that offensive line holds up if Aaron Rodgers is

anything like what we've seen in the past, oh, he could play two more. Because the Jets don't have no answer right now. They don't have an answer. So he can play two more years. Well, they might not have a choice,

but it better go well, because everybody going to be gone. Aaron Rodgers, the head coach, the general manager, everybody. Woody Johnson is going to get everybody up out of there. I think they're going to be alright though, depending on what Aaron Rodgers you get. I'm talking about the Aaron Rodgers that's locked in and focused

on the goddamn game of football, not any of the goddamn shenanigans. He's going to be alright. They're going to be alright. I know one thing, he better throw goddamn Garrett Wilson that goddamn ball, Alan Lazard, and hand it off to Brees it off to breeze hall breeze hall gonna take all the pressure off him i want i want him i want to i want to see i like when great players play great even when they change location i mean a lot of people well you ain't playing for my team i don't wish you the

best no i want to see great players play great. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Most definitely. I mean, I don't want to see you on your last legs. I don't want to see you like Joe Namath when he was with the Rams or Johnny Unitas and the Chargers. Who wants to see that? Because a lot of times that's the last memory that you have. A lot of times, everybody that's watching you at your last stop, that's the only impression that they have

when your people say, man, you don't realize how great the ex-white was. It used to be, yeah. Yeah. Right. I doubt he's not going to go out like that. Well, I hope not. Watching him practice,

watching him throw, watching him move around, he looks good. The arm strength is still there. The plays he's making with Garrett Wilson, the clips are always on social media now since they've been in camp. They're going to be all right. I'm telling you, Brees Hall is going to take that pressure off of him.

And all you got to do is facilitate that ball and don't make any mistakes with turnovers. Simple. The defense is so good. Yeah. Oh, yeah. But you know, Ocho, defense, you only stay at that level, that upper ledge

for a period of time. Then you have a break and then you bounce back. But to stay here? It's difficult. Very hard. It's just like everything. Teams go back and they break you down 16 weeks yeah and they see what you did in certain situations your personnel who does what the

that is that's why i'm saying it's hard to win in the nfl man yeah as soon as you have a little success team break you down to the umpteenth degree to see why you have that success, and they force you to play to your bad and keep you away from your good. Mm-hmm. But they better go to a roaring start. You know how they get restless in New York. Oh, listen.

The fans in New York, just like the fans in Philly. Boy, they don't play that. Yeah, for sure. They don't play that. All right, Ocho. So, Awful Announcing revealed their list of top 10 sports anthems. Number 10, One Shining Moment. Luther did that one, didn't he?

Is that Luther? Luther Vandross? One Shining Moment. Luther did that one, didn't he? Is that Luther? Luther Vandross? One Shining Moment? I know the people who... Okay. Wild World of Sports, the classic. The Masters. Tournament, unlike any other. The NFL Lone Spots.

SportsCenter, 1990. CBS, college football. David Faire. Barrett. Olympic theme. Ooh, that should be, that should be, that's a good one. The Olympic theme. Yep.

Number three, Monday Night Football, the classic. Number two, March Madness on CBS. I don't even know that the nba on nbc man don't nobody remember the nba on nbc they don't remember when the nba was on nbc oh wait wait i forgot how it goes it was on the video game too i think if i'm not mistaken what was the like when the nba have hold on that be like, hold on. I'm trying to think. Jordan. That was a while ago, huh?

Was it Costas? What? 2002. The NBA hadn't been on NBC since 2002. So two decades. Yeah. I think it might have been NBA Jam.

Yeah, I know. I know. One of the video games used the theme from NBA on NBC. At least, like, we hear the Olympic theme every four years. Hey, that's dope. March Madness comes around every year.

Monday. I mean, I can't even. it's been so long since the the NBA was bent on NBC I know it's going back to NBC

I can't even remember you don't remember the song? I don't I only I got it in my head I only know I promise you one

I don't know if it was NBA Jam one of the games used the NBA used the song from NBAba on nbc on the video game i'm telling you i know i'm not tripping chat somebody got it somebody got to be old enough to remember that's a gamer what it was what video game it was oh i think they're not gonna let let me talk. I'm too loud again.

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We're on tomorrow. Wednesday. Tomorrow is Wednesday. Oh, we got time? Are we going to spell it now? Okay, okay, Ocho. We're going to do it. Are we going to do it?

Yeah, yeah. It's time for... Yeah. Yeah. Chat, this is for y'all, chat. Okay, Ocho.jo we're gonna start you out with an easy one a very very easy one okay okay okay okay okay nige houston wait you want me to we're doing first name or last name we're doing last name

houston that's easy. Go ahead. H-O-U-S-T-O-N. You said Houston. H-U-S-T-O-N. Nijay Houston. Who parents playing around like that?

That's what you get for being fancy. Who parents playing around like that? You don't want a quick free, but I know, I know, I know. And get it wrong. Okay. Parents playing around like that. How about this one? She's the youngest American to win a tennis match in the Olympics since Venus

Williams. Yeah. Coco golf. G a U double F. Correct. Stop playing. Stop playing with my top. What you talking about? Okay. She's water polo Emily

Osmus. Last name Osmus. What? Osmus? Osmus? Os, os. Os. Os.

Pass me the ox cord. Os. A-U-S. Mm-hmm. M-E-S. A-U-S. M-U-S M-E-S A-U-S M-U-S Osmus What can I

Give me a little credit No you spelled it wrong I don't know these people You don't know the word But you be spelling them How about this here Yeah Okay

But we spelling people's name That's different than me having Yeah, now you know. But you ain't say nothing when you went back to 75 B.C. for the Olympics. You ain't say nothing about that. But you was there. You wasn't there? No. You said when you plugged

that computer up, it's on. I hadn't plugged it in yet. I didn't think you was going to go that deep. Fancy, you be wanting to stump me so bad, you be going back. How about this here? Taylor Averill. Taylor Averill.

Okay. Now, that was easy based on the pronunciation of what you just, you said Averill. Yes. We had a football player, Cliff Averill. Yes. Huh? Because we had a football player, Cliff Avril. Yes. Right? A-V-R-I-L.

Now, if that's wrong, I quit. Well, you quit because it's wrong. A-V-E-R-I-L-L. Avril. Ave. Why would they add the E? The E is silent. That makes no sense. Well, well i don't know to tell you

okay the last one he is the biggest threat i believe to noah lyle's in the 200 meters he also made it in the 100 meters okay kung fu kenny kenny beneric beneric kenny beneric. Beneric. Kenny Beneric. Not, not. You spelled Derek. So Beneric, I'm just going to take the B-E. N-E-R-R-I-C-K. Now, it can't be wrong. Because Derek and Beneric is the same, so the spelling should be identical.

B-E-D-N-A-R-E-K. Kenny Bennarik. Bednarik or Beddarik? Bednarik. So where did the D come from? Bed. But you said his name is Bednarik.

Yeah. Kenny Bednarik. Okay, you're confusing me. Do you remember the last guy to play both ways? Chuck Bagnaric. Spelled different, but Concrete Charlie is what they called him. Number 60, Philadelphia Eagles.

That's not fair. That's not fair. All right, Ochoa, here's your little revenge. Get your little revenge back. Look at it. Hold on. Let's wait for the graphic. It's your little revenge. Get your little revenge back. Look at it. Look at it. Look at it. Hey, hold on. Let's wait for the graphic. It's now it's time for Dunk on Unk. Yeah.

I got this because you. Now you tripping. Hold on. Let me get you together real quick because I'm starting with the hard ones. Why you do all that, Ocho? Nah, because, man, you give me. You know I know how to spell in people's name, man. Uh-oh. Question number one, Chad, here we go.

What Olympic Games, what Olympic Games, the year, and where they were, was the first to be televised? Oh, my gosh. Yeah. Mm-vised. Oh my gosh. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yep. So there were no Olympics in 16. Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. When TV didn't come out, well, color television, they had black and white. I would say, I'm taking a wild guess here, Ocho. I'm going to say 19... 1952?

1952 where um see 60 was in Rome 56 was in Melbourne 52 yeah yeah 56 was in Melbourne. 52 at sea. Yeah. Yeah.

I don't know what to tell you. Yeah. Stockholm, I don't know. No, not Stockholm. Berlin. 36? It was in Berlin. The first Olympic Games were televised in Berlin in 1936.

Oh. 1936. Ha ha. Question number two. You're 0-1. Okay. You're going to go 0-5. Initially started as a recreational sport for American soldiers during World War II. What sport will make its debut in Los Angeles 2028 games?

It started as recreation? As a recreational sport for the soldiers in World War II. This sport will make its debut in Los Angeles at the 2028 Games. What would soldiers do? Oh, yeah. I mean, I can't even. oh yeah um I mean I can't even you saw full metal jacket

yeah I saw full metal jacket okay you remember what them soldiers did when they was uh what packing a footlocker uh love you long time optical course marching I don't know love you long time obstacle course marching

I don't know I can't even get into the possibility okay well the answer you're looking for is not obstacle course the answer is not marching the answer is flag football the answer is flag football and flag football is coming to the Olympic Games in

2028. Okay. I'm going to be playing too. Question number three. You are now over to just like I was an Olympic sport through 1920. What a game, which involves two teams pulling a rope and a test of strength. Oh, that's what in 1920.

Okay, and I gave you that easy one because I knew you wouldn't get the first two. Okay, Ocho. I gave you that one. I just plugged the computer in, Ocho. I just plugged it in. Oh, you plugged it in? I plugged it in, Ocho. Okay.

Okay. What are the five rings an Olympic symbol intended to represent since you just plugged it in? Yeah. I can hear Ash laughing. What are the five rings and Olympic symbol intended

to represent? Liberty. City. Sportsmanship. Okay. Okay. liberty city sportsmanship okay okay man I don't know I don't know I ain't no way yeah I thought you plugged it in the five parts of the

Olympic rings excuse me the five rings in Olympics oh my God Ocho the five rings in Olympics. Oh, my God. Ocho. The five rings, which are symbolic of the Olympic sign, represent the five parts of the world. Africa, Asia, Australia, the Americas, and Europe. So the five continents.

You didn't know that, huh? No, I did not. But you know now. Yeah. Here we go. Question number five. Or just number four. Which country has the most Olympic gold medals?

And how many? Well, America. We got the most gold medals. Okay, okay. You got the complete answer. And we got 3,000 when you combine summer and winter Olympics. I didn't ask you to combine. I said Olympic. That's the Olympic.

Winter Olympics and summer Olympics. Woo-hoo! I plugged the computer in on it. I plugged the computer in on it. Nope, nope, nope. You said Olympics. We're not computer in on it. You said Olympics. We're not in the Winter Olympics. You didn't say summer. You didn't specify.

Can't y'all see what he tried to do to me? Y'all see what he tried to do to me? Can't y'all see that, right? We're in the Summer Olympics. That ain't what you saying. Can't y'all see what he tried to do to me? Stay with me now real quick. We're talking about and recapping the Summer Olympics.

Why are you even mentioning winter? Why would I be asking about winter and the summer? You said who has the most medals. I said America. You said how many? You didn't say Summer Olympics. Right. You didn't say Norbert. So how many for the Summer?

I don't know what you mean. In its totality, for the Summer Olympics, you said the U.S. has the most gold medals, and I said how many? No, you didn't say Summer. You said who has the most gold medals in Olympics history? Which country has

the most gold medals? I said America. Then you added a two-part question because you didn't think I was going to get it. You said, how many? I said 3,000. How would you not get it? Of course the United States has the most. Everybody knows that.

But I'm talking about how many and why you mentioned the Winter Olympics and we in summer. We even captured the Summer Olympics. Because they are the Olympics. You said gold medals. They pass that gold medal in the Winter Olympics, too. But it ain't the Winter Olympics that we're talking about.

Y'all see? Hey, y'all see? Hey, they're killing you, Ocho. They're killing you, Ocho. I got it. I got it. Nah, you're cheating. I told you I plugged the computer in.

Once I plugged that computer in, it's over. You got that wrong. I got it right. All right. question number five what team did the women's national basketball team lose to in 1992 oh yeah oh man

wait that dial up ain't working huh it's only one or two yeah okay you can only give me one answer. You can't give me two. You got the same amount right I did because you're going to get this wrong. I got two of them right. I'm about to get one right. I'm gonna go

who could have beat us 92 it was in Barcelona that was the last time we lost to it ain't who I know it's gonna be somebody Barcelona, that was the last time we lost too. It ain't who. I know it's going to be somebody that I don't, but it's Lisa. I was there, so I remember. Bro, you were

13. I know, I was there. Uh, bro you were 13 I know I was there uh I don't know Spain wrong Australia or Soviet the Commonwealth of Independence the Russians

wait did I say that right the Commonwealth of Independent States of Independence? The Russians. Wait, did I say that right? The Commonwealth of Independent States. Yeah. Let me say that the right way. They done changed their name so many times. They done went to the Unified Team. So you went one for four. I went two. I got two of them right on, Cho. You didn't give

me the amount of medals that the United States won. That was part of the question. 3,000. You said 3,000. Why you adding... No, we're talking about the Summer Olympics. You didn't say that.

All right. Now it's time for our last segment of the day. It's called Q&A. J. West said Uncle Nocho could blast football working the Olympics well we're about to find out in 28 right we're gonna find out 2028

it's gonna be here hey guys we've seen some fun Olympic Games commentary by Snoop Dogg Colin Joss from Saturday Night Live which event do you two think you could commentate on together the best and would keep us

all laughing? Oh, track. Yeah. Track. But don't put me on that mic. At a track meet? And somebody getting ready to get lapped? Man,

don't do that. Don't do that. I would like, you know, obviously track and field, you know that. But I would like, you know what I'd like to commentate on? I don't know. They got like trampoline in the Olympics. They got rhythmic gymnastics. You know what?

Break dancing. Yeah. Break dancing yeah break dancing yeah yeah yeah that'd be a good one the rhythmic gymnastics where they got the little they be spinning that thing and they throw the ball up in there and they throw the baton you know what yeah synchronized swimming don't you oh boy they don't be playing oh boy they don't be playing

yeah man they don't be playing man I don't know how the women be holding their breath like that that's difficult yeah and to be in unison

yes all together that takes a lot of practice now that takes a lot of practice Kemper Norwood that's a good question I like that one Kemper Norwood Jr. said O question I like that one Kemper Norwood Jr.

said Ocho do you have a split NFL jersey with the Bengals and the Dolphins no I know what you talk about I don't have a split

but no no I don't I don't Dr. Frankie L. Beverly said your chest is so big it looks like you swallowed Ocho

just playing Ocho love y'all. I'm losing weight. I don't think people understand how big I've gotten. You ain't. I am. O'Jord, O'Jord saw me today. O'Jord, he know it's just about time it's over. He had a little

run. He had a little six-month stretch where you know he was the most in shape. But it's over now. Like Luther said, it's over now. Wait, I'm the most in shape, but it's over now. Like Luther said, it's over now. Wait, I'm the most in shape right now. Oh, Lord have mercy. Ojo, you weigh 53 pounds. I just told you. I started at 178. I've been

in, I'm on week, what's this, week three? I'm at 190 now. You ain't no 190. You ain't no 190. You ain't no 190. No. Hold on, man. You ain't got no scale in there. I don't need no scale. Put your shirt in

so you can see. You can't see in front of the camera? You don't see how big that guy is, man? I'm telling you. When you see me... Hey, somebody go call the exterminator to get that praying mantis

out the hotel room. You making jokes, man. You can see through... Oh, Joe, you not know 190, bro? Listen, Unc, just pay attention, man. You can see how the field in. My traps,

everything coming in. My titty sitting right. When you see me, when you see me August 22nd, we'll be in Atlanta and I'm around 200, 205.

Remember I told you so. All right? Remember I told you so I'm telling you what who's calling here Ocho yeah alright

you might need to be I don't know Ocho I ain't gonna lie I seen cheerleaders on top of the pyramid holding the sign saying yay with big arms to you alright you'll see. Oh, remember that. I came down. I did.

Oh, I did the work this morning. Man, Jordan, that ball bad. You know, I said, Jordan, hey, you had your run. It was short, but you had a little run. Yeah. How long his run was? How long your run? About eight months.

Yeah, he's still running. No, you're not. I done caught you. I done tatted him on the shoulder. You know how the police pay. The police pull up on you. They don't flash the blue light. They just pull up beside you.

Pull over, son. That's how they do you in the South. They don't turn the blue light and pull. Hey, pull over son I got you you look like 175 180 alright you'll see

get the jokes off now I told you when we do the show in August when we go to Atlanta I'm not wearing I'm only wearing a tank top and I'm putting on my diggies and my chucks and that's how I'm doing the show well you know you boy I'm only wearing a tank top and I'm putting on my diggies and my chucks. And that's how I'm doing the show. Well, you know,

you boy, I will be. Ooh, well, you already see. Yeah. You see the whole. Yeah.

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First of all, you're never going to be my weight, and I'm never going to be your weight. The only way I'm going to be your weight, I'm going to be three months past dead. That's the only way I'm going to be 175, 180. All I got to say is I'm going to be 200 pounds come August 22nd. That's all that matters. Ocho, I ain't won 200 pounds since my freshman year that was 86 that damn near 40 years ago

yeah but I ain't I'm trying to prove a point that's my point I'm trying to prove a point I'm telling you how big I can get fast look at Ocho's clavicle look at point to point look at his shoulders

and look at my shoulders. You see the difference? You see this to this? Yeah, you wide. You wide. I'm aerodynamic. That's the difference. What I'm trying to tell you... Yeah, you wide and I'm aerodynamic. That's what I'm trying to tell you. You only

going to get so big, Ocho, because you ain't got nowhere to put it. I'm still going to get to 220. I'm telling you, you only going to get so big, Ocho, because you ain't got nowhere to put it. I'm still going to get to 220. I'm telling you, I can do it. This man here. You'll see. It's just my camera's so small, you really

can't see the definition and how much work I've put in. I'm just trying to, if you look at somebody, look at their clavicles, you look at from point to point. Ocho, you only can get so big. Where are you going to put the weight? The chest area, the legs, the arms.

I'm telling you. You'll see. You'll see. Man, it's cold in here. Let me put my shirt back on. Oh, my Ocho. Put it back on. You see?'s cold in here. Let me put my shirt back on. Oh, boy. Ocho. See?

You doubt me like my teachers doubted me in high school. They told me I couldn't do it. Oh, my goodness. You want to know where the weight going to go? You're going to see come September 1st. Ocho. I'm just... Ocho. All I'm saying is... Tell you what?

Ocho. I'm just Ocho, all I'm saying is Oh yeah, you Ocho What? Ocho I mean, you 175 No, I'm 190 right now. You ain't no 190. That's not a 190 frame. And it's okay. How you

gonna tell me about my frame? I just I've studied Hey how you gonna tell me about my friend cause I can cause I know bodies I've studied hey you don't know you feel that that's a C cup right there C cup talk about man

I'm out here let's go I probably like where you I probably like 50 right now who me I probably 250. God damn. Well, you fat. No, I ain't fat. I'm solid.

Hey, I tell you what. I tell you what. When you see me in Atlanta, we'll see. Okay. No, no. Okay. You'll see. All right. Ain't no fat, bro. Ain't no fat,

bro. Ain't no fat. I mean, I just did the same thing. Oh, you see the difference? Look at that. You see the difference? You ain't no bigger than me, man. Just wait. Hey, I'm sorry. Before anything, I said,

there's a lot of man. There's a heavyweight. Now,weight now you're in the heavyweight division now you've been dealing with the middleweight in the welterweight 147 you might have went up to a couple of times maybe even a light heavy 75 I say but this is a super heavyweight this is the

clinch goals in the Lenny Lewis's yeah the kind of theories the Anthony Joshua's this is a big class here now the the clinch goals and the lennox lewis's yeah right right here is the anthony joshua there's a there's a big class here now you know your boy i'll leave heavy you don't know but i'm just saying don't show you i can look at your uh you can look at point to point to your shoulders yeah only to get so big. Nah, that ain't got nothing to do with it. Yes, it is.

The weight got to go somewhere. I just told you where it's going to go. You know, I don't want to talk about it no more. I'm going to just show you. I'm going to show you like I showed my teachers in high school. I came back to them when I made it. I came back to them. Remember when you said I wasn't going to be able to do this?

Here you go. Chad, can y'all see the difference between Ocho's shoulder from point to point and mine? Yeah, I just told you. You wide. Like, you wide. That's what I'm trying to say. Ocho. Just because my shoulders are aerodynamic does not mean I can't gain and put on muscle and weight.

Where you going to put it at? The weight has to go somewhere. It's going to go there. I'm going to show you. I'm going to show you. Oh, Lord have mercy. Ocho, you just... You'll see.

I ain't going to say nothing else because I can show you better than I can tell you. Okay. Oh, Lord have mercy on you though I'm just saying yeah I mean hey I ain't even worried about you

if you just running from the police just hide behind a street sign they gonna run right past you I can't I'm too big for that oh Joe you skinny. I can't. I'm too big for that. Ocho, you skinny. Nah, I ain't skinny. I ain't been, no. Snoop Dogg ain't skinny. Hey, chat. Ocho, go outside.

Ocho, look through a peephole with both eyes. He ain't got clothes. Everybody else got clothes with one eye. Ochocho look through we'll see Ocho you Ocho Ocho you I'm just saying you should be proud think about Ocho you haven't played football in over a decade and you've been able to keep your weight down that's a positive a lot of wide receivers a lot of wide receivers look like offensive and defensive linemen.

No, listen, I was always small. I'm just trying to prove a point. Thank you. Yeah, and I'm trying to prove a point to show you I can get big as hell in a short amount of time.

It's like a switch. When I want to hit that switch, I can hit that switch. Oh, Joe, you only going to get so big. You will see August 22nd. Okay. You'll see.

All right. I could get... Man, look here. All I got to do is eat. If I eat and live, oh, I'll be 280. What you think I'm doing? I'm eating three meals a day.

Got my protein shakes. That's it. Yeah, don't worry about it. Ocho, I'm doing? I'm eating three meals a day. Got my protein shakes. Yeah, don't worry about it. I mean, four times. Four times. I don't need four. I try to get five, but I just can't eat. See, the thing is, it's hard for me to really hold weight once I start working out because once I get done working out, all

I want to do is just lay down. I don't want to eat. So I lose. I can lose. I lose weight. Let me show you. Let me show you. I'm going to get you on my regimen. Oh, Joe. I used to drop in practice during two a days.

I dropped 10 pounds at practice. Listen. If I don't touch no weights, I just shrink. I can touch the weights. I just can't be lifting no heavy-ish. Because I started lifting that heavy-ish, my body like, yeah, where you been all my life? The next day you know I'm 260, 265. I ain't trying to be that no more.

Yeah, I got you. I did what I do. What was that, 132? I just did the 132-pound dumbbells the other day. 132? Yeah. Dude, I did the hunters. Dumbbell bench,

dumbbell bench, the hunters. I tell you what, we're going to go work out. We're going to let Joy, we're going to record. We're going to go to work out here. Yeah, now we're talking. You want to do chest, back, or shoulders? Chest, arm, shoulder.

We can hit every goddamn part. I don't care. It don't matter. Yeah, I can see already. And I bet I'm just as strong as you, too. Yeah. Yeah, okay. Okay, I don't do curls.

I ain't say nothing about no curls. Because I know you want to go into curls. You want to do all of them. You want to do them. No, I don't do curls. I ain't say nothing about no curls. Because I know you want to go into curls. You want to do all the... You want to do them... No, I don't want to do that. I don't want to do that. Oh, Lord have mercy. I don't want to do that.

I'm just as strong as you. You think so, Ocho? I know so. Especially in certain movements. Certain movements where I'm comfortable. Ocho, what movement? For one, I'm stronger than you

benching, squatting. Let me think what else. Anything where I have to push and pull, I guarantee I got you. All that size don't mean nothing. That don't mean nothing. Ocho.

That's as strong as you. Ocho. Hold on, I'm trying to think what year was it. It might have been 96 or 97. They surveyed,

I was the second, pound for pound, I was the second strongest player in the NFL. That's back then. That's back then. Ocho,

I've been strong, Ocho. I've been strong too, I. I've been strong, too. I just didn't have the muscle. Wait a minute. You don't understand. When I was with the Bengals, right? I worked out with the offensive lineman.

I worked out with the offensive lineman. Wasn't Chip your strength guy? Wasn't Chip your strength guy? Chip and Friday? Chip and Ray. Yes. Chip Moore and add Chip. Add Chip. I squatted 650.

Add Chip. Listen, they be getting hyped about Nick Chubb doing all, you know, squatting all this heavyweight. I was doing that when I was with the Bengals. You can't even squat 350, let alone 650. Hey, Unc, I just look like this, man. I know.

Ocho. I know Ocho you do Ocho ask Chip when I got to Baltimore I worked out by myself because I didn't really know I didn't really know them like that

and I didn't really trust them like that I took 405 down by myself did it six times and put it back on the bed on the rack ask Chip but

we play with 405 where I'm from, man. What you talking about? Ocho, I don't know if you can do 225. We play with 405 where I'm from, man. Okay, you know what? I'll tell you what I'm going to do. You know what? I'm going to start lifting serious just so I can show you

when I see your ass. This is what he's going to make me do. Because I ain't want to lift no heavy weight because I already know I got to fit my clothes I just got a new selection of suits because you can't fit in anything ridiculous but you brought this on yourself

this man gonna talk about he could outlift me you'll see and make sure we got somebody that'll record it too you gonna learn it's one thing I'm good at that's competing whoever's And make sure we got somebody that'll record it too. You're going to learn. There's one thing I'm good at. That's competing. Oh, have mercy.

Bad Ocho, bad looking Ocho. I understand Ocho. I know you. Everybody that, think about it. Everybody that's small wants to be big. For one, I'm not small. You thin. I'm not small. You thin.

I'm not thin. I'm of size. I mean, I mean, look, you perfect for rail. Hey, I'm air-bodied with a cup of tea. She just happened to be

the one drinking. How tall rail? Five. Five. Five. Five, five, five, six. See, that's perfect for you. I'm six-foot. I mean, Ocho, like I said,

you, I mean, really, you're like a middleweight. You're a super middleweight. Nah. I'm super heavy. Yeah, but youweight. Nah. I'm super heavy. Yeah, but you don't understand. I'm like Roy Jones. I go heavyweights, knock the mat. I go

lightweights, knock the mat. It don't matter. My weight fluctuates depending on what I feel like doing. You're doing the chest tomorrow? You're uploading chest tomorrow? Coach, I you doing the chest tomorrow you uploading chest tomorrow oh i i mean i don't really i don't really do chest no more because i don't want to get big i don't want to get big like that when i handle iron i get big if you notice i'll be trying to do the machines free weight make huh i sound like i hear excuses no freeway put weight on me man i'm oh joe i don't need to be busy it's one day it's one time it's one day it's one time

proving me that you stronger than me and we're doing in the gym this is what i do oh lord it sounds like you're making excuses that's all i hear when somebody called me out i show up i, I show up. I'm going to show up, Ocho. I ain't going to do it with 315 because I know you can't do 315. That's fine. And I'm going to do 315. You ain't saying that.

That's water weight, man. We play with that where I'm from, man. 315? Stop playing, man. What you talking about? 315. 315, man. 315.

Yeah, man. 315, man15 315 man that's finger food what you talking about 315 Ocho man look that's what I do man I don't look like that Ocho I ain't trying I ain't trying to get big I'm trying to fit in my clothes

that's all I'm trying to fit in my clothes I'm trying to look good in my suits y'all know how I put them suits on. They be laying down. That's how they supposed to be. Ocho trying to get me busting out my suits. Hey, listen. It ain't nothing to add a little bit

more fabric. Ain't nothing to add a little bit more fabric to your suit if you got a good tailor. If you don't have a good tailor, I got a tailor for you. No, no, no. Ocho. You do realize that once you get a suit ain't nothing what you adding i mean you said it's not gonna fit no it's not gonna fit i got somebody and i can have somebody that is very good that could add more fabric so it can fit if you get a little bigger, no problem. That's not the way tailoring works.

Uh, what my tailors, it does. Now your tailors might not be as advanced as mine, but if you get a little too big for your suit, we could add, we could patch you up real quick. Yeah.

I'll be out there looking like grandma's comfortable with you to add all the patches. Oh, yeah. Thank you. Hey, yeah I'll be out there looking like grandma's comforter with you to add all the patches and swatches alright guys thank you thank you for joining us for another episode of Nightcap I am your favorite Wednesday please make sure you hit that like button please make sure you hit that subscribe button

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