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make it a preset, and stay connected all day. Iowa took a 12-4 lead and never gave it up, marking the first time of this season that Clemson hadn't led at any point. The Hawkeyes' Edge came on the boards without rebounding the Tigers, 40 to 27. Manwa, Mani, became the third player in the last 60 years

to have 10 rebounds without attempting a shot from the field in the NCAA tournament. So he had a specific job, Ocho, you know, you said you have a specific skill? He had a specific job. Get the rebound. There you go. That's it. Hey, hey, we all got a role to play.

I'm going to play mine to the tee. I ain't going to take a jump shot. I'm going to grab me 10 boys. I'm going to play hard all my minutes. The man ain't played between three minutes. Yeah. So he basically getting to rebound every other minute. Man, listen, I ain't really see the game.

I was, man, I thought I had picked Iowa. I picked Clemson. I'm cheering for hour. Yeah, hour, that's what I'm talking about. Man, let me look at my bracket right quick. I was like, I'd be a damn. All right. I think I picked Clemson.

Yeah. Who there? Brother Johnson. Did I pick Bill and? Had a plate had 11 points. He had one point. That's impressive, man. 10 rebounds, one assists, one turnover.

To not take not one shot. That's Dennis Robbins. Dennis Robbins would have 20 rebounds with no points. Yeah. Zero. I'm talking about not one attempt, though. Not one. Mm-mm.

I was hung in there as long as they could. Sturts. But, hey, I mean, I won, but Clemson, but I thought Clemson made a run. They was down like 14 Joe and then they cut it. But they just, they didn't get it. They just couldn't get it with the hump. And then they forced I went to run the shot clock down.

And then, cause that's what I will play. Our plays running the shot clock down. We know we don't have the level of talent to get up and down with you horses. So we're gonna run the shot clock down. They get deep. Cause if you think about it, most of their damn shots came at five seconds, four,

Three, two. Yeah. They shot Iowa, ran the clock down, shot it, and then Clemson couldn't get the rebound. Yeah, because this is a low-scoring game. Yeah. But you got to know what you're dealing with. It's the same thing.

Oh, you remember that first Super Bowl with Philly and playing Kansas City? They snap in the ball with four seconds on there because we try to take as much time as we can off this clock because we know Patrick Mohn doesn't need much time. We damn sure ain't trying to give them a whole lot of it. And every time it, and it ain't, It almost, they almost nipped them. But, uh, this was, this was a good game.

Clemson, you know, but I was just, that methodical office, that, like, like Princeton, you know, Princeton used to run the shocklock down, they backdoor cut you and do all that other stuff. And then you invite yourself like, damn, how are we down to these guys? And that's the one, that's the one thing. You got to be patient when you're playing against teams like this, because they're going to eat the shot clock up. They're going to make you work defensively. Yeah. If you come down there, take it.

them quick shots, but you're going to be in trouble. As you know, you'd be down double figures. This is the first time, this is for the first time since 2019. All four number eight seeds have gone winless. Iowa 67, 61 victory over Clemson, Clitch, four and no first round ever for the nine seeds on Friday. Earlier in the day, Utah State defeated Villanova. God dang it, Villanova on Thursday.

TCU kicked the first round off 666644, win over Ohio State. and the Billikins, St. Louis, crushed Georgia 102 to 77. What Georgia doing, man? I mean, I don't really know nobody but Dominique, son, but I like, you know, St. Louis is going to get them. Man. You know, the Billikins used to have a pretty good program. I don't know, you know, I don't really follow them that much now,

but they used to be really good. Yeah, yeah. But now, Georgia, SEC Powerhouse, man. And I used to be. And you think, you know, powerhouse on that football field. That's about it.

They didn't have some decent teams. They ain't had, I'm talking about basketball. They, they be decent. Yeah, they don't have enough talent. You know, for every ant man that you get and neat that you had.

I think they went to the, I think they might have went to the, nah, they went to the final four the year after Dominique left with Vern Fleming. Hugh Duh was with the head coach. They didn't go with,

Dominique was there they went the year after I think that might have been 83 look at see when that because I think Dominique came out in 82 hey because I'd be wondering with Georgia NC State Houston I'm almost certain I'm saying with uh with all the talent that's here in Georgia I don't never feel like any of the Georgia school is supposed to be suffering from talent there's too much talent here man 83 I'm almost certain All the top. Georgetown, Georgia, Houston, NC State. What was the finals that year?

Hey, hey, hey, hey, uh, why I'd be hating on me, Ocho? Where have me? I just ask her, what was the final for that year? I didn't know. You realized that was 40 years ago. Damn. That was 40 years ago. But no, but I remember that Dominique,

and I was like, damn, how did they go to the next, how they go to the final four the year after Dominique leave? But 83 was the year the miracle, Levinzo Charles, dunked the ball home on Houston with Five Slamma Jamba. Oh, you remember Five Slamma Jamma, Joe? Were you big enough to remember Five Slamma Jammer Joe? I heard them, yeah. They had a Keem, Elijah won.

They had a Clyde Drexler. Yeah, Tom like that Houston. Yeah. Yeah. I think Larry Mishaw was on that. team. They had a squad, but Jimmy V.

I think that was an Albuquerque. Hey, how you say their name again? Five slamma jammer. Fly simba. Yeah. Hey, as soon as you said that the first thing that that went in my head was school days for some reason. What do you know about school days,

Ojo? I mean, I mean, that's what I mean, you know, school days is a good movie. That's a classic, Joe. What? Yeah. Fast slamma jama. That's the first thing I thought about was school days. Wasn't that in New Mexico?

Wasn't that championship in New Mexico? Because I think it was a... I didn't realize Louisville went to an 83. I'm trying to think who was on Louisville squad. Wow, I didn't know Louisville went, man. Ash, I just... George, I can't even ask a question, I can't ask you a question. Where was it?

Where with the hell, Ash? Oh, okay. Well, dang, I just ask. Getting ready for a game means being ready for anything. Like packing a spare stick. I like to be prepared. That's why I remember, 988, Canada's suicide crisis helpline. It's good to know, just in case.

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Now, Kansas will go face off against Big East Tournament Champion, St. John's on Sunday. That's right. Good dream. Bill Self, Rick Patino matchup is happening. Uh-oh. That's going to be a good one, fella. I got St. John's. Hey.

I got St. What? You got St. John's. On your bracket? Did I put that? I don't know. What I put it? But I think you got St. John to be Kansas?

Yeah, your bracket definitely, you might be throw that in the trash now. I don't think St. John should have been, should have been a fortune. I think they should have been hired in that. But they get a chance to prove me wrong on Sunday. Hey, listen, when I was watching Kansas tonight, I know that Peterson got out to a slow start. Yeah. Because, you know, they've been saying he's going to be the number one pig, him and AJ. It's been flip-flopping pretty much all year.

Yeah. I like to see guys when they get off the rough start, how they can contain their composure and stay in it. And look, and don't be gunshot. Still be aggressive, still getting to the bucket, still taking your normal shots. Because if I'm a scout, if I'm an NBA scout or, you know, you plan on playing on the next level, that's what I want to see.

Like, your last shot, it can't affect the next shot. You feel what I'm saying? Like, you may have got off to a one or six. shooting start one to seven shooting start. Hey man, I want you to continue to be aggressive, continue to be the player who you are because confidence goes a long way. I thought he played, I thought he played great, honestly.

He didn't shoot great from the field, but I'm speaking from a mentality standpoint. Like knowing that, you know, I'm him, I'm better than y'all out here. Right. You know what I mean? And my off night is a pretty good night. He was the only one that made threes.

I mean, they were four for 19, and he made all four of his. He was 411, though. Like you said, Joe, he didn't shoot the ball particularly well he was 11 or 24 from the floor uh but hey look he's gonna get the majority of the shots uh he's their best player and uh like you said and that's what you have to do because if you think you're gonna every night you're gonna get off to a hot start it ain't happening it ain't happening no no i thought those guys rallied around them though because i you know i've seen

Kansas play a couple times this year, and they've had guys had big numbers outside of Dan Peterson. But tonight, nobody really showed up, bro. It was terrible. They were terrible. The only thing that hurt California Baptist is that they was worse shooting the ball than Kansas. Because Kansas was 26 of 65 from the floor, and Cal Baptist was 23 or 64.

They were 417 from the three-point line, 10 of 19 from the three. Yeah. Man, when I watch them, they be so healthy, skilter out there to start the game, and everybody be going so fast. Okay, Ocho. Like, sometimes you just got to take a deep breath, relax. Like, yeah. Calm down.

Everybody playing at such just hyper level, you know, trying to play as hard as they can. But sometimes, man, you just got to relax a little bit and let the game come to you. And that's kind of what I've seen. Tonight, especially from Kansas, I know Kyle got back in it, but for the most part. But it's those arenas, man. that depth perception. Those guys ain't used to play in the arenas like that, Joe. It's tough, bro.

It's tough. Them neutral sites, I'm telling you. Yeah. I'm telling you, it's tough. You can be close to home, but it's a whole different atmosphere. You know, they're playing, you know, because they try to get as many fans as they can in these buildings. So these are ginormous buildings.

Big, big buildings. Yeah. But Kansas moves on number four Kansas, takes down Cal Baptist. 6860, led by Darren Peterson, with 28 points. All right. Joe, ISO is ranked 40th out of

379 entries with 260 points. Ocho is 219 with 240 points and currently I'm pulling up the rear 33rd with 210 points. Hold on. You said I'm ranked what?

40th. Out of 379 entries. Damn, I'm high. We ain't going to celebrate, y'all? What, we celebrate, Joe? I'm right. I'm in front of you.

I'm in front of you, Joe. No, you're not. No, you're not. No, I'm not. Man, wait. I'm waiting. I'm waiting. Man, you're so far back there in the review mirror. I can't see you.

I have to adjust my mirror up here. Hey, you know, you know, you know, you know what to say on the, on the mirror, right? Well, objects. Well, I've been closer than there. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

You write that, right now, Ocho, you're not that close. And I'll be. And I'm even further back than you. Don't worry about it. I'm a catch up. Oh, I definitely go catch you. Hey, hey, put. No, y'all might catch me because I got BYU going a little far, but.

I mean, I, I mean, Joe, you're right. I mean, you did good today. What you did today today? I mean, you, you did it good today, Joe. You did real good today, huh? Hey, it ain't gonna look like that tomorrow. Damn, Joe, won't. You creep.

Hey, hey, hey, hey, chill, chill, chill, yeah. Don't look like that tomorrow. Hey, boy, I'm cutting up down there, uh, what we had that in the me. Hey, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight 30 on, yo. Hey, what's up, Joe? I'm just, I'm, I'm, I'm just asking how you.

Don't know, no, don't be, don't be no janky brother, you know what I mean? I ain't be no, I'm asking, how you feel about your team, Joe? Yeah, I feel great. What do you mean? We locked in, why not, hey, hey, my boy locked in, man. Okay, I'm not being negative. I'm just asking how you feeling. You might be a little nervous.

You might have butterflies in your stomach. That's all. That's a good thing, though. I don't mind the butter. It let me know, you know. Right. I'm ready for the moment. Okay.

Okay. Yeah. Yeah, you know pressure bus pipes, huh? It also make diamonds, homie. Yeah, it do. It do. Yeah. So which one are you?

Who me? Yeah. Joe, I'm the one that talk all the shit, so you know, pressure don't mean. Yeah, Joe, you didn't do. I mean, your bracket looking real good, Joe. I ain't going to hold you. Yeah, I appreciate it.

I appreciate you. I appreciate you. Look, why it be so hard for guys to compliment other guys? Like, thank you. Just say, man, you did a great job. It's so hard. Why is that so hard for you or Ocho? Uh, uh.

Joe, the tournament just started. Why am I compliment you in the tournament just started? These rounds count, Ocho. Yeah, they count, but it's about, hey, Joe, this ain't no sprint, it's a marathon. Okay, you're right. We clap, we clap in clapping too early. The fat lady didn't even sing yet.

Right. Hey, look, I like to keep my hopes up hotter. I ain't gonna lie to you. I like to feel good. I like to feel good when I'm playing the game. I like, you know what I mean? I like to be out in front. I don't mind leading to charge. You know what I'm saying? Right. Yeah. Yeah. I like to be out in front. And you know what happened when you run that goddamn 400 or that 800, huh? And you get out there too goddamn fast.

You know what happened? On the lad 250? What happened? That monkey jump on your back. That's what happened. Yeah. Yeah. Hey, that monkey jump on your back, boy. And that lactic gas is built up. Boy, hey. And all you hear, Joe, you hear the crowd, say, who, who, who, who I'm coming.

Joe, you red track, Joe. Nah, all I did. Oh, that's all you did, Joe.

That's all I did. I was around my homies when they played on the neighborhood baseball team. I used to go to the games, but I never played. When they played football,

I ain't really go to the games, but I should always hear about them. I never, I just, I only hoop, bro. When basketball, came around, okay, Ojo.

Yeah. Even when it wasn't around, I was so locked in, man. That's all I wanted to do. Because if you just played sports, Ocho, Joe, that means you had to work. That would work, so I'm trying to play every sport I can. One fall into the other. So by the time, by the time, track was over, we're in half of the month, about a buffer school left,

because I'm going straight to the field. As soon as, as soon as, like June, third, fourth hit, in the field, we're going. So if you're, If you didn't play in no sports, oh, you got to do something. Yeah. Yeah.

I'd let you sit around no, no, no, no, no grown, no boy. Maybe the girls ain't have to do nothing, but a boy. Yeah. You wouldn't fit to sit right in a moment and not do nothing. Just come, just come home every day. Oh, hell no. No song.

Oh, yeah. Woopie. Woopee. Yeah, see, Joe, I got, I got it. See, Joe. I got it. I got it. I got it. Oh, the Indiana Pacers would reportedly,

reportedly consider drafting Cam Boozer number one overall, knowing the NBA that I've consulted project, any sort of dramatic fall, either Peterson or Boozer. When it comes to Boozer, in fact, they're a sentiment. Getting ready for a game means being ready for anything, like packing a spare stick. I like to be prepared. That's why I remember 988, Canada's suicide crisis helpline.

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Hey, I think he would fit. I actually think Booza would fit great with Indiana. I ain't going to lie to y'all. I just don't know if they're going to get the number one pick. But I can see him playing alongside Zubok, though. A good stretch, a good stretch four. Yeah. You know what I mean?

He can shoot the three. I just don't post up a little bit. I just, look, I think he's phenomenal. And there's a great chance he's going to be player of the year. But I don't know if I can take him over AJ DeBonza. I just see too much upside, Joe. No, I agree. You don't see the upside with Booza, though?

You don't see the upside of Booza? But this kid here. Yeah, man. Because he's going to have the ball. Six-nine with the ball. Yeah. Sheet with the ball. Luca with the ball.

Cade with the ball. Ant-Man with the ball. Yeah. See, it's different when you've got the ball. He's going to have the ball. I want to see these guys. Yeah. I want to see these guys get into a situation where they can really flourish, though.

Yeah. You know, I want, I want them, I want, because I think these guys, could be special. Some of these talent coming into the NBA this year that's going to be in this year's draft. It's a special talent, man. But I don't want to, I don't want to see them, honestly, coming off the bench,

being this spark plug, man. Let them do it play, man. Yeah, I just think, I think, Utah, Utah praying. There are a lot of people praying in Utah right now that they get that number one pick and get the Bonza. Because if Utah get that pick, they're taking AJ DeBonza.

They're not taking P. Oh, no doubt about it. They're not taking anybody. They're taking AJ DeBonza. No doubt about it. No doubt about it. I just feel like they're going to get it too. What's up?

Hey, Joe, y'all don't, y'all don't think, is DeBonza that much better than Peterson? I think he better than... I think he's... I think he's six, nine. He'll bucket. Everybody keep talking about Peterson in the bucket. DeBonza bucket.

Yeah. Yeah, and not only that. DeBosca, AJ, he just seems like he loved playing the game. Like he really, he thoroughly enjoys it. And that goes a long way with me, Ocho. You know what I mean? I like gym rats. I'm a gym rat.

I like to be in the gym. Whether it's by myself working on my game, where I like guys who like to stay in the gym. Right. Yeah. When dealing with that number one pick, Ocho, you know what it is, the least amount of red flags. I can't be worried.

I can't, Ocho, because as a general manager of an owner, I'm going to want to turn my phone off at night. I don't want the coaches to have to tell me that he's not going to play, he'll little nick. I just can't worry about stuff like that because in basketball, I mean, even in football now at the quarterback spot, Ocho, you know in three years, you're going to have to make a big old contribution. You're going to have to make a big old financial commitment.

In basketball, you're going to have to make a big old financial commitment. I want to be able to make that commitment with the least amount of worries as I possibly can have. Yeah. That's just me. I think DeBonza, I think DeBonzo will be the better player. I think he's the safer. And I hate it because safe, like, oh, no, no, no. I'm saying he's safe and he's really good.

Yeah. Hey, I'm going to tell you who probably going to go high. There ain't nobody really thinking. I think, obviously, I think there's A-Cup can always improve his draft stock. I think he can creep into like maybe a top three pick on the Ocho. I agree with it. But Caleb Wilson, who was at the University of North Carolina. He's 16 now.

16 and 16, 611, Uncle Ocho, he can do everything. Put it on the flow, shoot the three. He's going to defend. You know he keep receipts because he told y'all throughout the season, he got receipts. And he was going at everybody who, you know, played with him. You feel what I'm saying? Yeah. So I like that about him.

He's going to compete. He got a lot of talent, bro. He got a lot of upside. That's why I say, if you got a top seven pick in this draft, You can get a good player. Boy, it's the top eight. It's some talent in this drive, bro. But, you know, it's where you go, who you coach, yes.

The veteran players in your locker room that help you. Yeah. Make a huge difference. And not be on some bulljohn because they're envious. Yeah. So it goes a long way. Dremont Green said Kay Cunning. happen, it's not going to make the all-N-B-A team because the dumb-ass 65-game rule.

Dre said it doesn't fix the issue. Like it does not fix the issue at all. And here's a guy that's done everything right. He has a collapsed lung and he's going to miss the all-NBA team because this dumb-ass rule. The rule does not fix the issue. It's just ridiculous. So here we go again with these unintended consequences. Because if you think about it, Joe, making the all-MBA selection, that

adds another $50, $75 million. Now, Cade Cunningham is going to miss out. Hey, look, now somebody else will step in. Somebody else going to get a big old contract, that's how it worked. Yeah. Yeah. It's, hey, it's unfortunate because you had these

unforeseen injuries, bro. Yeah. Like, I've seen the injury and it's like, dang, a collapse long? Like, bro, this basketball, that don't happen. You know what I mean? And it's like now he's going to have to miss out on all these other accolades because it is, it's unfortunate, bro.

I ain't going to lie to you. Now, they put the rule in because they wanted guys to stop all of the rest. Oh, that load management. You know, they want to cut it down. But it's going to hurt some guys who don't load manage. You know what I mean? Like Cade, unfortunately. Yeah, for sure.

And you see those guys, you see what it does. It gives shade, was able to get that extra. money because he's an all-N-B-A selection. Jay-dub was an all-N-A selection. So you see these guys getting this because they wanted to reward. It's a blessing and a curse. Prior to 19,

prior to 1980, the player selected the MVP and the all-N-B-A team. Yeah. But they're like, man, y'all be tripping. I don't like you, so I ain't voting for you. So they put it, they gave it to the writers. But now the writers have so much control, they get to determine who's going to get these two, three,

four hundred million dollar contracts, but whether you like it or not. Yeah, that's crazy. Oh, Cho, it's been like that in football. They select the all pro teams. They select the all pro teams. Damn. At least the pro bowl is kind of divided up. You got the fan vote.

You got the players vote. And then you got, you know, you got the coaches, general manager, whatever the case may be. So it's the three-tier system. But all pro. It's all writers. The NBA, all NBA selection, all defensive selection, it is what it is.

So there is no perfect answer. Because if you don't think players are biased, you're fooling yourself because they're human. Right. Guys vote for the Pro Bowl. Guys vote for your bro. I'm like, bro, how you, bro. Really?

Really? That's why they took it out. I mean, look, I know, but I took it serious because I know, look, because I want guys to be rewarded for their work, Coacho. It might have been, it might just be this one year that he had an out-of-body experience and he deserved to go to the Pro Bowl. But you want to put somebody in there that's going, he had already gone five, six times.

But he didn't deserve it. Yeah, and nothing they can do about that rule, huh? It's too late. They voted on it. Yeah. They voted on it. They said 65 games. That's messed up.

I mean, listen, they're 65 games for those so they don't pull load management. There should be some type of grace period for those that are actually, that are actually getting injured. Like injured for real, where it doesn't affect them the same. I mean, how did, I mean, collapsed lungs. So what did he do? Was he in a car crash? No.

Didn't he get knee, Joe? Didn't he get knee? Yeah, he got knee, unc in his side, like during the game, going for the ball. But he stayed in the game. It wasn't like, it didn't look like nothing major. But you could see him. He kept reaching like this.

Like, you could tell you're saying something was wrong and he went to the side. And they took him to the back. And he, you know, just a regular routine play, bro. It takes a tremendous force to collapse alone. Because that's why you got ribs there. Yeah, he need him. He need him right down there.

Yeah. Raising banks back at work later today, baby. Woo-Pid. Yeah. Yeah, I got you. I got you. Joe, I got you. I got you.

Yeah. Hopefully they don't have to put no run, no tube down and inflate it. Maybe with some just rest, it'll inflate back on its own. Mm. Damn. But we've all had the aeronaut out of so. That's why you got to be so lucky, bro, to win, man. Because it's like, everything could be going,

great you could be having a hell of a season. And something like this happened, Arcan Ocho, it seemed like it may be nagging too. I can't see how it wouldn't be a nagging, how it wouldn't linger. It says chest injuries, blunt force trauma like a car accident or

sports collisions. Penetrating trauma, gunshot, stab wounds can break ribs or puncture the lung directly. Small air blisters called bleaves can form on the top of the lungs and burst allowing air to escape the chest cavity. This often happens without warning,

particularly in a tall, thin people. So you guys are more susceptible because you're tall and thin. You got to say? Hey, you see that, Joe? That comes in, see Joe? All this coming in handy. Oh, Joe, what did you over the door?

Hey, he said thin. He's talking to you, Joe. He ain't talking to me. You ain't thin? Man, Joe, I'm every bit of, 22 right now, Joe. Hey, you see how I'm feeling at this jacket, huh? Hey, you got a cheer.

Oh, Joe, Joe, Cade missing time could potentially open the door for Jane Duren to make an all-NBA team making him eligible for the five-year $288.8 million. Ooh. So look, look, look, look. See, help somebody, help your teammate. Hey, Cade already got by what? He got by 260 already.

He's the signed for by $2.60. But see, here's the thing. No, Joe. I'm trying to get me two more all-NBA selection. So guess what? When that contract come up again, boo-boo-boo, supermax again. 300.

Well, that's out. I ain't going to say it's out of the picture, but you didn't have your home. Yeah, five years, 269. Yeah, yeah. Five years, 269. It's just, ugh. That's filthy.

That's good work, yeah, boy. That's good work. That's filthy. It's filthy. Kevin Iran is 26 months away from passing Michael Jordan on the all-time scoring list. Obviously, LeBron James is number one at 43,229. Kareem is next at 38,387, followed by Carl Malone at 36,9288.

Kobe Bryant is number four at 33,6,6. 43. Michael Jordan is currently in the number five spot at 32,2,992, followed by Kevin Durant, Dirk Novicki, Wilk Chamberlain, James Harden should be the next player that break into the 30,000 club. Shaq rounds out the top 10 with 28,0596. Hey, congrats to Katie, man. Oh, yeah. That's impressive.

I mean, y'all know MJ, my idol to be the past. adds him, I'm sure that'll be a hell of a defeat for Katie. I'm happy for him. He's one of the best scores ever played this game. Super elite, super efficient. I enjoy watching them play. They beat my Hawks tonight. No, no, no, no, no, they blew the Hawks out of Joe. They broke our street. They got, they got at us. They got out of them. They got it. They were Reed Sheper Block, old boy, a boy, dunk, Joe. It went down here to herd from there. Hey, Reed Shepard, he can play. Yeah, yeah, oh, sure.

Yeah. Yeah, I like, he can go out there. He competes, boy, he compete. He'll be. A con can'tepal, uh, uh, Gillespie from a Phoenix? Yes, uh, hey. Ballers. They're getting at it.

Yeah. Them boys hooper. Yeah. Uh, I mean, that's a lot of points. Right, you know, in order to hit, in order they reach those milestones, you got to be available. too, aren't. Yeah.

I agree, Ocho. He couldn't fly. He probably, he was so peed off about the two games against the Lakers, he had to take it out on none. Yeah. Because you can't fly. Normally they leave you, they normally leave you overnight at the, in the hospital. The Kay took a car service back to Detroit because when you fly, you can't fly with a collapsed lung.

Yeah, you can't, you can't fly. No, no, no, no. But they normally leave you overnight and then, you know. But man, but KD doing this, man, look, the efficiency in which he does it, it's crazy. It is, bro. It's a beauty to watch, though. But you got guys, I mean, you guys talking about what he did in this amount of time. You got to realize, look at the amount of shots that he took.

It's shots. You're talking about years. I'm talking about shots. Oh, Cho, if somebody If a quarterback throws the ball, let's just say for the sake of argument, quarterback throws the ball 50 times a game. He should have the most passing yards

at the end of the year, right? Absolutely. Throwing it. Yeah. Jordan was taking 25, 26 shots a game. So what are you talking about? That's not the diminishing. But I'm saying, y'all try to diminish somebody

because y'all said, well, he did it in this amount of time. But even though the amount of times, look how many shots he's under the total. That's what y'all, when y'all say, like LeBron is playing this length of time, when he broke the record, look how few of shots that he had. KD's shooting 52, 53% from the floor.

Amazing. It doesn't take away any. Somebody passing an all-time grade. It doesn't take away from the great that they're passing. Because he did that. Jordan got, you cannot take six titles. You can't take five MVP's. You can't take 10 scoring titles.

you can't take the all NBA selections and you can't take the six final MVP's. But if you are an athlete and you pass somebody that's this story, right. Bro, that's why you hear him say, bro, my name's going to be in this list. Yeah, yeah.

They got a celebrate it. Yes. We got to celebrate them, especially when you hit a milestone like that, no matter how you, feel about Katie, whether you don't like him personally, whether you don't like his game, top five, whatever it may be. You got to celebrate, you know,

someone doing something like that. And it's okay. I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, cloth guys is that whatever I do, it does not take away from what Ozzy did, with John Mackie, what Dicka, what Big Kellan did. What gronke is done, what Gates, What Nell Kelsey has done,

uh, Witten, that don't take away from me. I did what I did. Congratulations to those guys. I don't feel like, man, do you feel, no, I got everything out of my career I could get.

That's what, that's what my numbers were intended to be. That. So them breaking past me and when I left, I was number one. Hell, I don't know where I'm now. Kelsey's passed me. Uh,

witness passed me. Gates has passed me. Gonzo is past me. Hell, somebody else's about to pass me pretty soon. That's okay. I don't feel any less because these guys are passing me about my career. And I don't think anybody should feel, man, man, them joke, don't pass me, man, what people are going to say, huh?

Yeah. Kareem, like, people didn't think nobody could get this record because only bigs played that long. Because they were the ones that didn't have, you know, hey, go back and look at Kareem. Hey, Kareem get the rebound, kick that thing. Amble down the coat. Yeah.

Give it to me magic. Yeah. That's got a guard. A guy that like LeBron to have the ball that length of time and to play that long, that's why nobody thought because what, thank you about what you have to do. LeBron had the average 25 points a game for 20 years.

For 20. People don't understand how insane that is. Yes. So when you look at Brady and look at the records, I mean, think about how long you're going to have to play just to break his passing record, his touchdowns record. Yeah, you're going to be able to, hey, they're going to go into 17 games,

and they're going to go, eventually going to get an 18 game. So, Ocho, so when you think about it, a guy played 15 years, that's basically two seasons right there of games. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. So when you look at a guy play, guy play 15, you know, 17 seasons,

he's going to end up playing basically three more seasons. So now the number's going to be skewed, but it don't take away anything, guys. It doesn't. No, no. Hey, but I think I think LeBron going to continue to play guys because he's going to put this out of reach. He does.

Yeah. He may not never come out and see it, but I promise you he won't put this out of reach. I told somebody I think he's going to play 25 seasons. You heard Kevin the Rand. If he really wants to, that's up to him. But he can play another four or five years. He can play until he's 45.

Yeah, I think it's just more of the demanding on the body if you want to continue to have to go through them, you know, them tough workouts or continue to stay discipline. And Joe, do you still want to put that time? It's easy to put that in when you're making $55 million. Do you want to put that same kind of time in when you're making a million, $1,000, $2 million, $3 million, or the minimum?

A mid-level exception? Do you still want to do that day, though, Joe? And if them endorsement's right, I'm sure you will. He got that on lock. That ain't going to way. That ain't going to way. You know, he got the Nike deal. He has other stuff going on.

So he's going to have money coming in. He got a lifetime contract with Nike. That's probably playing them $25, $30 million a year. For long as he's low. he's breathing. Hey, and I've been seeing him in his golf bag, too. You picked that up.

Yeah. He picked that up. I guess he's like, you know what? Hey, and when you hit the road, he picked up a little late. He probably should get on that thing like Steph did way, way early. But the thing is with golf is that you got to play it so much to really get good at it.

It ain't something that you can go down and like, okay, I pick it back up in two weeks, three weeks. You got to be obsessed with it. And it takes years. Joe, you know. It takes years of good at it, especially if it's not your respective craft. But, hey, hey, Joe.

These dudes be, hey, my homies be at the golf course, bro. Eight hours. Okay, old joke. Out of the day. You got to. Eight hours, bro. You got to.

And it takes guys, if you look at the guys that are good, it got guys that don't have this. You look at the guy, the quarterbacks, quarterbacks don't develop their shoulders. Yeah. You look at the basketball players.

You look at the baseball. player. You look at the guys that don't develop their shoulders because you got to be fluid. I'm too tight. I only go to go back so far. You got to be able to be loose through here, man. You need, you don't need no abs, you need a little gut. Yeah, yeah, it's all in the here. Yeah, you need, that's what you need. But man, this is amazing accountability, man, to see Kevin and Red.

I bet you if you'd ask KD. You know, he's like his goal. I want to play in the NBA, blah, blah, blah. It's like, but when you retire, you're going to be in the top, you're going to be top five score. Man, what? And the history of the game?

And you see those great names that's up there? And you start from zero. Man, because when you first started playing the game, Uncle Ocho, you just want to show you blown, bro. You ain't thinking about, oh, man, I'm going to try to be a top 10 score in the NBA. He just want to show you

belong and then as the journey continues, you know, you start to receive all these different accolades and he's like, hold on. Now he ain't reached. He's going to pass MJ. Oh, man, come on. It's like some things like when you just say MJ or you in a conversation

with, man, you tie Wilk, Wilk, MJ. What? That's greatness. It's like, if you're a quarterback and you did something, you up there with Brady, you up there with Manning. Like, damn.

Okay. Yeah. When somebody said Mike Cabin's got 11 consecutive thousand-yard season, he tied Jerry Rice. Who? Jerry. Lord, have mercy. But, KD., congratulations, bro.

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