Club Shay Shay - Nightcap - Hour 2: Giannis disgruntled, Burton spotted at casino, Quincy Jones tribute

Episode Date: November 5, 2024

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to Giannis Antetokounmpo being disgruntled in Milwaukee and a possible move to the New York Knicks. Later, Unc and Ocho discuss Cincinnati Bengals WR Jermaine Burton being spotted at a casino, Rough Draft returns as Unc and Ocho pay tribute to the late, great Quincy Jones and much more!03:13 - Jermaine Burton11:47 - Soccercap14:48 - Giannis wants out27:27 - Rough Draft31:38 - Spello Cinco37:27 - Dunk on Unc44:45 - Q and Ayyy(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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gaming resources. Oh Joe, I want your thoughts on this. Bingo's wide receiver rookie, Jereme Burton was spotted in the casino alone in the hard rock and sensei were in the same city he had on yesterday. Burton was a healthy stretch again yesterday and sat in Saturday didn't show up for walkthrough. Damn man. I mean, we talked about that a little bit. I think he trains with TJ Houchemazada. I think Houch is a good mentor for him.

At some point, I'm sure Houch is gonna talk to him and try to get it through his head. These opportunities aren't gonna come often. You have a little leash. Again, they will tolerate you, as you always say, they will tolerate you until they can replace you. And when it comes to NFL, everybody is expendable and replaceable, except maybe one or two guys. And that's literally everybody, no matter what you may think. So, listen, you can't ruin this opportunity.

You work too hard. You work too hard. everybody, no matter what you may think. So listen, you can't ruin this opportunity. You work too hard. You work too hard, really all your life. You know, you started this as a teenager. You worked all your life to get to this point where you're able to live out a childhood dream. You're able to be a blessing. You're able to provide for not just yourself,

but for your family and bless all those who helped you and guided you along the way to get to this point in life and in your career. You can't mess it up. You can't mess it up. who helped you and guided you along the way to get to this point in life and in your career. You can't you can't mess it up. You can't mess it up. I'm sure you know, he has enough people bother him. I would reach out to him, but he already has who's in this corner as someone he talks to and mentors and trains with. And I'm sure who she's going to talk to him and get him together because a NFL where that NFL stands not for long, you know, even when you're doing right.

So if you ain't doing right, I mean, that leash becomes even shorter. You're right. And he's a talent, too, boy. He is a fucking talent. Mike Hilton sent a strong message to the rookie wide receiver. When you get to this point in your career You got to grow up your grown man. Nobody's gonna babysit you anymore At all at all Joe Burrow had a good quote to

Know them boys don't them boys don't play man. They had to win. Yeah, they have a singular focus Not only they trying to win they behind the goddamn eight ball They ain't with the bullshit I don't care if I make no and now y'all see I wanted to check Would you see y'all get on me when I try to say it's about winning and we don't want to scratch it Oh, you too hard. Oh, you need to lighten up. Right, right, right, right, right. Well y'all that check. Come on now I want y'all to give it I want y'all to get on Mike Hilton get on a Joe burrow when I told y'all how I was oh Angle you say that and you know a certain partner was showing up routinely late, you know, I chastise him I should

One time I should I should I should I should have I should have. I should have called him. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, I was late one time. One time. I should have, I should have, I should have, I should have, see? And that's why, you know what? I'm team real. I'm gonna get me a T-shirt that says team real. Listen, why you gonna bring that up, man? Oh, my bad, Ocho, you know what, Ocho, I'm sorry.

Listen, I've been doing really good. Like, listen, you know- You in the house! No, I know, I'm in the really good. Like, listen, you know, you were in the house. Now, I know I'm in that. Listen, I'm in the house. The fact that I'm here, she left. Oh, so I'm in the house. I'm by myself. So she knew she cooked. She cooked for you.

How she was trying to be funny. I just ask you, I mean, sometimes they'll fix you a plate. They like here. I could I know be here, but I cook some for you, baby. Hey, I know I like to laugh about a lot of things and you have to laugh and make jokes to keep from crying. Right. But that woman left me man. That woman left me now.

She understood I had to be here at the house. So knowing that I have to be here until I leave Tuesday, I have a have a five-day gauntlet of trips that have to do back to back to back. Then she will probably come back because I'm not here. Yeah. So until I'm able to break the ice and you don't want to be my moderator to help me out and find a solution. Nobody in the goddamn chat. Everybody in the chat.

None of you motherfuckers in the chat are helping me. Y'all ask me questions. What I did. Fuck what I did. How about you help me? How about you send a goddamn tweet and say, come get this, Nick. I mean, do something if not. I mean, I ain't been left. I ain't been left in like.

Well, when I think about it and I think about all my relationship, but everybody really left me. I should have hit it with one of them. You go to the hospital and put the band on. Yeah. Put the band over, take a picture like, like, like messed up like. You had to be you had to be in the emergency room. Yes. Yeah. You know, I mean, listen, I would try to think of all kind of things I could do.

But I'm kind of past that stage in the age of playing games because actually it's serious. Some people think we playing. I'm like, boy, this ain't no joke, boy. You know, and I'm trying to make jokes and make it in light of the situation. Yeah. It's tough, bro.

Hey, that's your tough, boy. You hear me? Yeah. Hell yeah, yeah, hell I know I've been there. Oh, you, whoa, whoa, you've been through this? Yeah. Yeah, that's? Yeah. Hell yeah. Hell I know I've been there. Oh you. Whoa, whoa. You been through this? Yeah. Yeah that ass? Yeah.

Oh so you know how I feel. So you can tell like I'm laughing and I'm kicking and trying to you know shit what on the inside. Yeah. But I ain't never had nobody leave and come back so hopefully you a better situation that I am. Wait they ain't never come back huh? Hell nah. You did it, well you did something that bad? Nah, nope, no. You know, we have a difference. I mean, I think the biggest thing,

no, I think the thing is, you know, sometimes when you get angry when you're young, I'm not, I wasn't as mature then as I am now. Right, right. And you say things. Oh, shoot. You gotta be I am now. Right, right. And you say things. Oh shoot. You gotta be careful, boy. Hey. Yeah, man.

Hey, the tongue is powerful, huh? Yeah. The tongue is powerful. Look, so I'm trying to, like chat, if y'all in the chat, y'all send a little message. You know, flutter, flutter, flutter, flutter Twitter feed or flutter Instagrams or whatnot. I mean, it's the least y'all could do. I don't really ask y'all for much, Flutter, Flutter, Flutter, Twitter feed or Flutter, Instagrams or whatnot. I mean, I mean, it's the least y'all could do.

I don't really ask y'all for much, you know, but it would help because- It just takes, I mean, a lot of time. You know what I mean? Oh, it just takes time, but look. Hold on, whoa, okay. We ain't got time. We in the back end of the year.

Thanksgiving is coming up, huh? Yeah. I want my family. Boy, Christmas is coming up. Yeah, I want my family. What Christmas is coming up on and what? Now, what if Christmas time come with a Thanksgiving come and I got nobody? What am I do? What am I do now?

I know I play around a lot. Now I'm getting motherfucking serious. I'm getting I'm getting mad. I'm getting irritated because what the fuck I mean eat on Thanksgiving. I ate a lot of times I mean in Denver a lot of times I ate 7-eleven Well, yeah Well, yeah, that's in season is different and see so have you have you not have you never spent a holiday alone? Um, it's expected mentally.

You're already prepared not to be with family, not to be with your kids because you're in season and they know you got the focus. That's different. You've done something before you can do it again. I'm not advising it. Yeah. At the end of the day, it takes two people to core. It takes two people to tango.

It takes two people that cooperating and move it in the same direction. Right. And I think the thing is, she probably needs a little time. You know, a lot of times people like take a day or take a week or something, give her time. Well, it's been four days. It's been four days.

I don't know what kind of watch she wearing, but it's been four days. Four days ain't no time, Ocho. Okay, don't say no more, say no less, say no less. Say no less. And plus, stay your ass off the internet. What? I ain't do nothing. I'm just tweeting.

That's the problem. Oh no, I'm finna tweet now. Now, now, hold on. Okay. Now, this is one thing I've been doing the past 30-some years, naive and attempt. Well, do what you've always done, you'll get what you always got. What's that engagement? Okay. Uh now it's time for a soccer camp and

debut it. Soccer. Check this out. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey, that was me. Yeah. That was really me. What's up, my beautiful people? Those of you that love the game of soccer, we got two beautiful games coming up.

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I hate to say it, but I just do. Arsenal and Inter Milan, if you're a gambling man, take about a thousand dollars, maybe five hundred dollars, better no arsenal. The beat enter when you win. I will take 3% of whatever you win. People that's your soccer cap for the night. Whatever Michael,o, please please I didn't all money

Ocho as the basketball world anticipate Yanis at the Tecumpo Becoming disgruntled with the disaster in Milwaukee insider Mark Stein reports that Knicks are among the four teams Most likely to credibly push for the Greek Freak and joining more well-known contenders, the Nets eat warriors. Do me a favor. Yep. Pronounce his first name one more time. Yannis. Yannis.

You spell that Y-A-N-N-I-S? G-I-A-N-N. Okay, okay. double NIS GIA and in okay okay and yeah young bull young bull is nice man young bull is nice can they really let someone that is young as him has already they don't got a choice you don't want to be there what you're gonna do oh so that that work at their work in NBA so they can absolutely if they're disgruntled and don't want to be there that that's the way to get out. Kareem left all of them all the grace have left. So what you gonna do? So now so Dane one of the reasons Dane chose to go to

Milwaukee was to actually play with Giannis so now Giannis is you know he just wanted he wanted to go he wanted to go to Miami but Miami wasn't willing to give the pieces that Milwaukee. They weren't overly enthused because the last thing you want to do is trade a player where he wants to go after you've forced your way out of here. So they weren't overly enthused to trade Dame to Miami anyway. But considering Dame wanted to go to a contender, obviously, Giannis, contender, he ended up going there

because they had the best package. Right. Hold on, so, wait a minute now. So what happens now? Let's say Giannis does go to the Knicks. Now that makes the Knicks a contender. Having Giannis on that Knicks squad would make those Kn Nick Celtic matchups

that much better and that much more. It all depends on what you're going to have to give up. Are you going to have to give up Carl Anthony Towns or you're going to have to give up? What do you have to give up? Okay. Hey, excuse my ignorance when it comes to this. Is it, is there any scenario or any possibility you can have Yonis and Carl Anthony Towns or that just wouldn't work or that makes no sense at all.

I don't know if the salary's got to match up when you trade somebody the salary's got to match. Yannis makes what 50 plus 50 million a year. So you're gonna have to have some guys that give up 50. Now it's gonna kill your debt. So you won't have no bench. Probably lose Josh Hart, McHale Bridges, because the salaries got a match. Hmm. But that's what look, I don't feel bad because they had Adrian Griffin. They were 29 and 13 and Yon is one of the change. So he get exactly what he wanted this.

He wanted Doc. He wanted a new coach. He wanted booting holes are gone. Booting holes was gone. He wanted J kid go. J kid was gone. Yeah. And now guess what?

Oh, I don't want to go team up with nobody. Guess what? Yonis is going to take his ass and do go team up with somebody. You see, sometimes a man can make his destiny on the very road he took to avoid it. Talk about what you didn't want to do. Now, guess what? He's going to have to do. You ain't got no choice now.

Why not stick it out? They might turn around. We, we, we, we, we, we are not even in week two. We're in week two or three at NBA. They won one game. So they won in what? Six, one in seven. So is it really time to fold already?

After this many games? You still got 70 something games to go. Okay. And all I know, Jason Kidd is gone, but Boothoes is gone, Adrian Griffin is gone, and they're all gone because Giannis Antetokounmpo gave management his blessing to get rid of those guys. So I don't feel bad, I don't. You think he got that kind of pull and power like that? I listen, you know, that game better than I do, especially at that level.

Damn. So now they got rid of Adrian Griffin. You got 29 to 13 to 30. I think 29 to whatever the case may be. They were they were 15, 16 games over 500. Yeah. So that was a I don't feel bad. I don't feel bad. Man. So now what?

Sometimes the sometimes the devil, you know, is better than the one you don't. Oh, niggas, well, you better run that shit back. Well, you better run that shit back. Boy, you better boy. Well, you sometimes the devil, you know, wait a minute. Wait a minute. Better than the one you don't. Sometimes the devil, you know is better than the one you don't. Jesus. Oh, that was that was nice. That was. Hey, hey. Oh, that was nice. Sometimes the devil you know is better than the one you don't. So I don't feel bad.

Do all that talking. I don't talk to nobody in the off season. I don't want to train with nobody. And guess what? He's gonna go join the super team. It becomes a bit. Oh Joe, my grandfather told us something with a very young age. He said, boy, if you're not careful

You will become the very thing you despise the most in a person. Yes, sir What is John is despised the most super team? What is he about to do? Go join one? And be careful be careful you will become the very thing you despise the most in a person. Mm-hmm Damn y'all better sit back and listen old shake See people say Shannon sharp talk a lot never said he didn't know what he was talking about We're going to find out. We go find out how true right is to this. It's going to be very interesting. Is he going to stick it out?

I mean, listen, this heart management, he owes management to ride the season out based on some of the things that he asked him to do. How you just going to jump ship? Oh, now they've done. Oh, now you want to go. They've done everything to get Dane. He was willing to give up holiday.

The guy that won him a title. he was willing to part ways with it. Mike Bounoser, who's now in Phoenix. Damn. All I'm saying is I ain't got no problem with it. But when other guys did it and you have so much to say, just keep your mouth shut and then nobody will look at you sideways when you do the very thing. But you think the situation is different though. It ain't different. It feels a little better about doing it

because now I have no choice but to go join a better team because mine is like the Titanic. Whose fault is that? Every move that they've made he had to sign off on. Right. Every coach that he's had that he had to sign off on. Damn. I feel bad. Now, what are they going to do with my dog, Dan?

I don't know. No, Shannon, I like that winning no chip. So we think so long as he went to be happy. So we get, oh, whoa, whoa, wait a minute. He's supposed to win the chip every year. He wanted day. He got day. Right. But now all of a sudden, you're not the defensive team that you once were

because you don't have the own ball pressure that Holliday provided. You gifted him to the Celtics. Now look at them. They blow in teams out. And you got a 28 year them, they blowing teams out. And you got a 28 year old, a 26 year old. You got a Derek White. Damn. You made the Celtics. Damn, they're unbeatable.

That's crazy. Sometimes you just gotta, sometimes you gotta, you gotta wait where you are with your gotta wait where you are. So when, when will this happen? If it's, if it's, if it's going to happen, is there, is the, the, the, the rumblings are going to get louder because Celtics are moving on alone. Uh, now the thing is, is that fairly, I don't know what happened. They played tonight. I don't know if they want to loss.

Joelle and the bead, uh, he's injured. I'm sure he's not happy about, you know, obviously he got into it with the reporter that's questioning whether or not he wants to play the seriousness of his health, all that other stuff. I think that's what it, I think ultimately. People looking at what he mentioned his brother, he mentioned his son, but that's not the cup of water that caused the Atlantic to overflow. See, Joel and B got tired of this guy writing about his injury, about his health, about his status.

Right. Well, how are you going to leave a legacy if you hurt? Your legacy is that you're always injured. People started to read that. You see, Joe L. and B came out and said, hey, I've done too much for this city, but they'll be talking crazy and reckless to me. Right. Joe L. and B attribute some of that to this writer that's constantly writing about his injury, right?

And painting him in a narrative in a negative light. I guess so. So. And this and this plus this doesn't. Bowel for dark. This might be this last stop to cook among. Think so? I don't see.

I don't see how Orlando self. I mean, he wanted to move. He didn't want to rebuild with the Celtics. It goes to the Clippers. He goes to the Sixers. And now this situation, Oh Joe, he inherited a 29 and 13 team. Just saying, man. Hey there, it's Michael Lewis,

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You ain't winning this one. Oh, Joe. Quincy Jones, musician, composer, producer, who shaped some of the biggest stars, most memorable songs in the second half of the 20th century has passed away at the age of 91. To honor his greatness, today's list of rough draft best songs produced by Quincy Jones. Who's going first? You. First song for me is. Dirty Diana Michael Jackson.

I'm gonna go Frank Sinatra fly me to the moon. Damn it. I got it. I got a butter roll. Down goes Ocho. Down goes Ocho. Down goes Ocho. All right, give me Frank Sinatra, come fly with me.

Come fly with me. Nevermind, I forgot we can't sing. Yeah, I'ma go, We Are the World. Oh, that's a good one. Oh, Michael Jackson. Don't stop till you get enough. I like that. Don't stop till you get enough.

I like that. I like that. Uh. I'm gonna go off the wall. I mean, look, I mean, if we just took Michael Jackson's song. Songs, yeah, yeah. So that's my last, I ain't picking no more Michael Jackson songs. Cause we can pick any Michael Jackson song.

We can pick Smooth Operator, we can put Thriller, we can put Billie Jean. Hey, I'm going to beat it. I'm going one last Michael Jackson song. Beat it. OK. I'm going to go George Benson. Give me the night. Hmm.

I'm going. Oh, Misty Sarah Vaughn. I like that. Chat don't know about Misty. I'm going brothers. I'm going to a Brothers Johnson, strawberry letter number 23. Hello, my okay. I can't do it. It's my party. Leslie Gore. I miss you. Cry if you want to.

It's my body and the cry if I want to. If I want to, if I want to. You would cry too if it happened to you. That was five, huh? It's my body and I cry if I want to. OK. If I want to, want to, you would cry too. If it had you. I'm gonna do baby come to me,

Patty Austin and James Ingram. Well, I think I won that rough draft again. I don't think so, Ocho. I did. Chat! The chat gonna tell you? Yeah, the chat gonna tell you. And I would hope they would be on my side in this difficult time.

Yeah, we could have put Brother Johnson's stomp. I like stomp. Ocho don't know anything about stomp. So I went with fly me to the moon, we are the world, off the wall, give me the night strawberry letter number 23 and honorable mention baby come to me. Oh, Joe went dirty Diana Michael Jackson. Come fly with me. Frank Sinatra. Don't stop till you get enough. Michael Jackson my party. It's my party. It's my party.

It's my party. Ooh! Ocho, now it's time for Spell-O-Sync-O. Yeah, yeah. Hold on, I gotta stretch. Once I stretch, boy, it's a wrap, boy. I went four for five last time. I'm feeling good today.

Feeling good today, boy. Man, these words here, hell, I can't even pronounce them. Oh no, oh no, hold on, hold on, hold on. Let me say a prayer. Let me say a prayer real quick. Okay. I'm ready. I'm ready. Hold on, I gotta see. Make sure I pronounce this right

because you say I don't be pronouncing the words right. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, because the better you pronounce the word, the easier it is for me to sound it out based on how you pronounce it and give me a better idea on how to spell it. idea on how to spell it. It's my party and I cry if I want to cry if I want to. And the penultimate. The first word is anti-penultimate, anti-penultimate.

Anti-penultimate, anti-penultimate. ultimate anti pin ultimate anti pin ultimate anti I know anti anti now I need a I need a I need a little better pronunciation on the word stop you A n t e p e n u l t i m a t e t anti. See, y'all not playing Phil. Why not playing Phil? Yeah, all right, all right. I ain't missing no mo. Come on, come to me again. Come at me again, come at me again. Cod swallow.

What? Cod swallow. Cod. Cod swallow. Okay, cod swallow. What? Cod swallow. Cod. Cod swallow. OK, cod swallow. C.O.D. S.W.A.L.L.O.P. Correct. Swallow.

This is what I do. I never heard I never heard that word before. But when you pronounce it the right way, it allows me to man. She what is that man? Stop playing with me, boy. Let's go. What's next? Dilettante dilettante dilettante a person who cultivates an area of interest such as art without real

commitment or knowledge. Dilettante. All right, dilettante. Don't listen. Dilla, dilettante. D-I-L-A-T-O-N-T. There's no way that's wrong. Dilettante.

D-I-L-E-T-T-A-N-T-E. Dilettante. What? No way that's wrong. Dillatant. D I L E T T A N T E. Dillatant. Serious. I was wrong. Can you see it? Can I see who that that that topic bar that we got for you? Wait, hold on. Hold on. I got to look at.

Hold on. Let me get. I got to look at the chat. I got. Hello. I'm judging. Yeah. along. I'm judging. Yeah, I'm judging.

Your next word is humdudgeon. It's an imaginary illness or pains. And who humdudgeon humdudgeon. Humdudgeon is an imaginary illness or pain hum hum hum G. I. G. N. H. U. M. D. U. D. G. E. O. N. I'm judging. Damn, man. Hold on, hold on. Before you give me the next word, hold on. Let me let me get a mental reset real quick, because that's too wrong in a row. Hold on. Damn. Lock we most.

OK, here we go. Last word is locked, remote lock, remote. OK, lock. They don't make no sense. Lock, we most. that don't make no sense lock remotes hello hello hello see lock remotes lock remotes la ch ry mo finish if he you just started spelling out the blue yeah Because when you said hello, it's L.A. I'll say hello, L.A. I would I'm going to.

Yeah, you will get that one. Yeah. Hey, we all get these damn words from. They because I call Harvard and they say any Harvard freshman should be able to spell the words. I was I was a junior when I was at Harvard. You know, you definitely should have spelled them. I'm trying to figure out who uses these words in their day to day life.

Nobody. Damn. Alright Ocho, now it's time for Dunk on Unc. Oh yeah. Okay we got this, we got this. Now it's time for Dunk on Unc. Oh yeah. Okay. We got this. We got this. Hold on.

Here we go. Here we go. Here we go. Here we go. Here we go. Here we go. You going what? I went one for four.

Yes. All right. Make sure you get the same treatment. All right. Dunk on Unc. Tampa Bay Buccaneers edition chat. Dunk on dunk, Tampa Bay Buccaneers edition. You ready?

Yes. When did the Tampa Bay Buccaneers join the NFL? What year? 1976. Motherfucker. Give me, give me nothing. Give it to me. Give me give me Give it to me. Give it to me. George. I'm long go. I'm long go Go man, did somebody brief you?

Cuz you answer a little too fast. You ain't even Fast chat y'all see if I answer answer fast, somebody helpin' me. If I answer slow, somebody helpin' me. I mean, how am I supposed to answer? Okay, next question. Now I'm gonna know, listen, based on your answer and how fast you answered, I'm gonna know something's up. Okay.

It's too coincidental. Who holds the franchise record for the most passing yards in a single season with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers? Jameis Winston, over 5,000. What year was that? Didn't you see you didn't ask me that? You got to ask that in the question.

Jameis Winston, final answer. Okay, you got that right. I'm long gone. You got that right. I'm long gone. Okay, you got two. You got two right. You got two right. You got that right. I'm long known. You got that right. I'm long known. Okay, you got two, you got two right. You got two right. You got two right.

Which team did the Buccaneer defeat to end their record-setting game, 26 game losing streak? God, what team did the Bucs beat to defeat to end their second, their record-setting 26 game losing streak? Ooh. This was in 1977 as well.

Just for better context, they helped you with your answer. I'm just gonna take a, ah. The Saints. Nah, he cheating, nah, hell nah. I'm long gone. Y'all better start playing with shape now what chat Man ain't no way ain't no way in hell you knew that what y'all say it now check now I need y'all Nah here

Ww.com Say no dial-up.com. I'm logged on. And this ain't no dial-up. www.cheatin.com. This is 15. This is 15 G. This ain't even out nowhere but in this house. Pfft. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, man. Hold on. Hell nah, man. Okay, okay. Who's the all time leading rusher for the Buccaneers?

I bet you don't know this. They had a whole lot of them. I'm gonna go James Wilder. Hey, chat! What y'all talking about? We went one thing about it, boy, you got Lord on your side today, but I'll tell you that W. I'll tell you that if you know W. I'll tell you that. If it.

You know what? I'm finna log off. I finna log off, cause I get them all right again. You gon' be upset. I'm logging off there. I'm logging off there 15 G. Which team did the Buccaneers face in their first playoff appearance in 1979?

in their first playoff appearance in 1979. Dallas Cowboys. Oh, we got him. Got it wrong. The answer is the Philadelphia Eagles. Yeah. Yeah. Lost to the Cowboys in the championship game, didn't it? Oh, I don't know about all that. I just think they lost to the Cowboys in the championship game. Yeah

Yeah, which quarterback through 35 interceptions and his second season with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers 35 shit. Oh that was an arm 1988 so that had to be Vinny Testa Verde I left the birdie. Done. Done, I'm done, I don't wanna talk no more. I don't even wanna play no more. I don't even wanna play no more. Let me take my computer and go home.

Let me take, give me my computer. I'm thinking about computer and going home. I don't wanna play no more. Hey, hey, nah. Hey, you, nah. Y'all cheating over there, man. Somebody, nah, they didn't give you the questions ahead of time.

Like, nobody helped me. Y'all don't give me no study book. Bruh, do you know how happy Ash B. when I get it wrong, she be up here talking about, I'm like, who signed you on? Oh yeah, you hear her? Tell my Ocho. Oh, man. OK, Ocho, you know what I'm saying?

I did a computer. And y'all cheap, man, you cheap. I'm taking my computer go home. Hey there, it's Michael Lewis, author of Going Infinite, Moneyball, The Blind Side and Liar's Poker. On every season of my podcast Against the Rules, I take a broad look at various characters in American life. The referee, the coach, the expert.

My next season is all about fans and what the rise of sports betting is doing to them, to the teams, and even to my family. I'm heading to Las Vegas and New Jersey and beyond to understand America's newest form of legalized gambling. Listen to Against the Rules on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts. All right, Ocho, now it's time for our last segment of the day. Q&A. Hey, chat, something ain't right, chat.

Illinois J said, y'all ain't ready for this conversation, but Greek has reached his ceiling. I guess he's saying y'all this Greek freak. You do realize that his ceiling is 30 and 12. 30, 12 and five. Does he understand how high that ceiling is, Ocho? Yeah. 4KT said, think the jazz or tanking for Cooper flag. Yep, I would. He fit in perfect out there.

Where? In Utah. Man, you think he want to go from Milwaukee to Utah? Cooper flag, the Duke freshman. Oh, okay. Oh, Cooper flag. He's a young boy. Nice. Yeah. He nice. Brian is the give me your best Detroit basketball. Shout out to the Pistons for two game win streak.

Also go Lions. Best in the NFC. Ocho, you got the plate with me. Ocho, you got a plate with me. Oh Joe, you got the plate with me. Oh Joe, you got a plate with me? You notice? Yes, the Pistons beat the Lakers tonight. I think they won the other night also. AD had another monster night. The Lakers bench is terrible. They that bad?

They are awful. They might have the worst bench in all the basketball. Okay. Or at least, at least somewhere between 28, 29th and 30th. They're terrible. I think they scored 10 points tonight. They got outscored 27, 10. They make a start of a pretty good D. Yeah.

You could win with the starters, but their bench is terrible. They get nothing. I mean, they had a couple of guys just got 18, 19 minutes of cardio. They scared to shoot the ball. This guy's just got 18, 19 minutes of cardio. They scared to shoot the ball, huh? Adam Blaze says, what up, Unkenoto? Looking forward to week 10 Ravens versus the Bengals rematch, Steelers versus the Commanders, Texans versus the Lions.

Which game are you most excited for? Steelers playing their first team this season. That's hot right now. I think it'll show if the Steelers are legit. Oh, that Steelers legit, especially on offense. I mean, especially on defense. But who still is playing? What are they playing commanders?

Oh, that's going to be a Jackson's got the Lions. Bingo's obviously the 31st tonight game, Ocho. Yeah. Oh, yeah, we winning that. Hey, we winning that we play. We play. We play in the Raven. So we have some Ravens soup and any Ravens fans that are in the chat, you know, I love y'all. You know how I feel about you. It's ain't no disrespect. This is a friendly banter, a friendly competition. And Thursday, you know what it is. You know what it is. Who is Atlas, Fonk and Ocho? What do the Ravens have to do in order to win?

Run the football and limit the big plays. Except when they play the Bengals, but go ahead. He he he he he he he he. UW 1906, my wife says half my centers now start with Shannon saying, Ocho, my wife is sad about you and Rael. If she won't call to let me help. Been mad for years, I gotcha. Like Papa said, you fat Joe, my wife is sad about you and rail. If she won't call to let me help been mad, been mad for years.

I gotcha. Like Papa said, you fattened up a frog for another snake. Let's get right. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. We gonna get right. We gonna get right. We gonna get right. Dr. Frankie L Bellamy said, oh Joe, if you could write rail a love letter,

a letter sharing one thing or more, you admire about her, what don't you say enough? What would you write since she's not ready to talk? Try mailing her a letter with your feelings. Bingo. Matter of fact, I like that I like that idea. I think I'm gonna do that. I'm gonna work on that tonight. Matter of fact, I can't even sleep. You know how hard it is to sleep when you lose the piece of your puzzle? You know how hard it is to sleep when you have legos? I know how hard it is. Hold on. You know how hard it is to sleep when you got legos and one of the pieces to your legos is missing so you really can't complete it?

You know how hard that is? You know how hard it is to have a number two pencil and the eraser is gone so you really can't erase after you write something down huh you get where i'm going you know how hard it is walking a pair of shoes and you ain't got no shoelaces to keep you together i won't stay with me now all right yeah i love i love lamp i'm i'm gonna do that i'm i'm gonna mail it I'm gonna do that. I'm a man. I'm a man. I'm a man. Hey, somebody to my lip about somebody say, let's write it though. I guess it's my birthday. Appreciate a shout out last night. Oh, Joe keeps smiling. Boy life too short. Love y'all.

Yeah, I'm smiling at you, Mike. I appreciate, we appreciate the support. What we got? What we got? Who we got next? Leo Flanoy say, what's up guys? This is your college teammate, I would like to wish my sister Mimi for Lenoir Baron a happy 57th birthday. Happy birthday, Mimi.

Leo, this ain't really you. I know you know less about computers than me, so I know I couldn't get on, so I know you can't. But happy birthday Mimi. Happy 57th. Hopefully you had a very enjoyable 57th birthday and many, many more to come. Thank you for watching. Thank you for listening. And thank you for all your support. Jerry Lee said Uncle Nocho, my best friend, been rejected about six times in his life and now he's currently in his mid-30s. No females where he works, money don't fall out of

his pocket, and he's a two on a scale of ten. Damn! Help me help him. She help him help who? You gotta at least be a fighter to get some goddamn help. But you know how hard it is? You already behind the eight ball if you're a two. If you're a two, you gotta find a one. Ha ha ha.

You know what, you know what, you know what, let me stop. I ain't in no position to be laughing at nobody. I ain't, I ain't. Damn, man, Ocho, Ocho, hold on. Let me stop. I ain't in no position to be laughing at nobody. I am a man. Oh, Joe. Oh, Joe. Hold on. You could be ugly with money. Yeah. You can look good with no money. Yeah. You can't be both.

Yeah. You got to pick a. You can't be both. That is all. Yeah. Yeah. You got to pick a. You got to pick a struggle. Hey. Hey, you. I'm with you when pick a struggle. You gotta pick a struggle. Hey. Hey, I'm with you when you write, huh? I'm with you when you write. Woo!

Ah! Hey, that's- I mean, how you gonna be broke and ugly? Yeah. Yeah, you gotta pick a struggle, one or the other. Most of the time, you wanna lead towards being ugly and having some money. And if you got your money.

Look here, if you got money. You can get whatever you want, you can do whatever you want. Yeah, man, yeah, yeah, you right, Ocho. Yeah, yeah, you can get whatever you want because there's a whole lot of funny looking folk walking around with beautiful women. Mm-hmm. Yeah, shit, look at me.

Well, damn, damn, man. I ain't gonna say I ain't no two, though. I ain't gonna say do I say nothing about no eight or nine. I know, but I damn sure you know, too. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I told you yesterday, but I'm a strong seven, seven and a half with a haircut. Uh. I'm seven possible, you know. She's a seven possible. Yeah, yeah, I'm a seven. Seven, you know. You say seven of the possible? Yeah, yeah, I'm a seven.

You know. I get my hair colored. Right. Go to the gym, get a nice little pump on. Right, right, right, right. I got some, I got me got these green leather pants, socho, that's kind of white, that's flared at the bottom. Right, right. Got me a nice little green sweater. I put that

on. You can't hit me in the ass with a red apple. I know I'm an eight in the possible. I, right. Got me a nice little green sweater. I put that on, you can't hit me in the ass with a red apple, I know I'm a eight in the possum. I know I'm eight and a half with that on. Somebody, you can't tell me. I fight somebody, they tell me, Shannon, I ain't a eight. Lying to me. Hey, yeah, no.

Once I ate, I put some clothes on, boys, to rap. I put them green wide leg leather pants on with that sweater on, Joe. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Face all moisturized. Right right. I'm gonna go to the gym I'm probably gonna hit chest so everything you know you know I'm saying like that right. Yeah.'re right now. Yeah. Eight and a half, show enough. Damn.

Frank said, Uncle Nocho, if Mahal pulls off the unthinkable goal of the goals of perfect 20 no three piece Does that make him the greatest in your eyes? Damn The greatest When you know something's never been done. Yeah 17 knows the best so 20 know actually would be the best a three p nobody's ever done that. Yeah best. So 20 and old, obviously it'd be the best. A three P nobody's ever done that. Yeah. Can imagine if it is hard. I mean, nobody was ever even thought of being the goal at year seven, year eight of their career. Oh Joe,

Jordan wasn't even the goal to your eight of his career. Yeah. Maybe Jim Brown was Jim Brown was Jim Brown was starting to grow to the, because he wasn't the MVP and rookie of the year as a rookie. He won three MVPs, he only played nine years. No, if he does the unthinkable, obviously winning three in a row, I think it puts him in the conversation.

But I think Tommy will always be the goat based on what he's done over the entirety of his career. But that's what I'm saying. But here's the thing, he was three in a row. That's only eight. That means he had he still probably got another eight years to play. Yeah, see, I see.

But here's the problem. Now. The question is, is it rings? Because Jordan don't have the most rings and people say he's the goat because there are a lot of players that have more rings than Jordan so I'm just trying to figure out I'm a totality I'm looking at all proteins I'm looking at Pro Bowl selections I'm looking at you know passing seat I'm looking at all that you have to look at a body of work we just can't base it on rings because if it's just rings Bill Bill Russell is to go.

Is that what we're doing? Right. No, we're not. There are a lot of guys. John Havlicek, Casey Jones, Sam Jones. There are a lot of guys that have more rings. So look, I still think he would need if he gets to five and then let's see where he ends up on the all time touchdown list. Passing yard is list How many Pro Bowls does he make how many first team all pros? How many MVP's does he have now? We could really have a serious discussion

But I think you're eight that's just asking up that's just what you're eight because he came in in 2016 So it's your nine for him, right? So it's your nine for him. That's man, that's asking an awful lot, Ocho. Year nine, the crown somebody, the greatest flair. He came in 2017, so this is year eight. Year eight. Damn. Blame Pilar Diaz. My bus was supposed to be the chosen one this year.

Why are we so hurt playing this ugly soft coverage? Because y'all don't have them guys under the edge. Because when you bring extra people, your guys got to be dogs to hold up. Yeah. Yeah. They ain't got nothing on the back end. They used to, you know, early on,

they were a pressure team. Yeah. They don't really got the personnel to be able to do what they wanna do, if that makes sense. No. So I understand the grip. Thank you for signing my glove in 96.

I still have it, Mariner for life. Patterson Yadda said, Nightcap just got back from the New York Marathon. I fell off the last few miles. I still got three hamstring cramps, still ran 246. Not my best time, but will rebound. Went to my first club that same day to celebrate. Congrats, Nightcap.

Man, I just couldn't imagine. Hell, I don't drive 26 miles a day, let alone run. Right? Hell no. But you gotta think. I might drive 26 miles a day, let alone run. Right. Hell no. But you gotta think. I might drive 26 miles every three days. Every three days I drive 26 miles from the gym and back. Right.

I mean, you got to think, what's him call it though? What? Is that your own pace? You running for time, but you running for your time. I'm still running. That's me. One foot in front of the other. That's still me doing that.

I don't care if I'm walking. Yeah, no. M.D. Your M.J., M.D. Jorrit MJ, M.D.J. Original said, I got an exclusive SSU jacket. Would love to give it to you Friday when you are on my campus at Clark Atlanta. I'll see you there, bro. Oh Joe, that concludes this edition of nightcap.

Thank you guys for joining us. The Kansas City Chiefs remain undefeated with an overtime victory over the Tampa Bay Buccaneers by the score of 30 to 24. Kareem Hunt plows in from two yards out and they win it to remain undefeated. Thank you for joining us for another episode of Nightcap. We want to thank our very special guest, Ken Griffey Jr., one of the historically great ball players of all times.

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