Club Shay Shay - Nightcap Hour 2: Giannis REQUESTS TRADE from Bucks + Jae Crowder RIPS Doc Rivers + LeBron EMOTIONAL over TRIBUTE Video + Browns HIRE Ravens OC Todd Munken + Bills PROMOTE Joe Brady to Head Coach

Episode Date: January 29, 2026

Shannon Sharpe, Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson and Iso Joe Johnson react to Giannis Antetokounmpo possibly being traded from the Milwaukee Bucks before the trade deadline, Jae Crowder rips Doc Rivers saying that the Giannis trade rumors happened after Doc arrived, and LeBron James tears up during Cleveland Cavaliers tribute and much more! Subscribe to Nightcap presented by PrizePicks so you don’t miss out on any new drops! Download the PrizePicks app today and use code SHANNON to get $50 in lineups after you play your first $5 lineup! Visit https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/NI... 0:00 - Potential trade for Giannis could be happening ahead of deadline22:22 - Jae Crowder rips Doc Rivers24:54 - LeBron tears up over tribute video34:22 - Browns hire Raven’s OC Todd Munken as 11th head coach43:00 - Bills promoted OC Joe Brady as HC50:05 - Broncos part ways with OC, WR and CB coaches54:18 - Q & Aaayyy (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Sign up for a free trial at audible.com. A potential trade for Yannis Othacompo could be picking up momentum ahead of February 5th trade deadline. Sean's report, Yonis is ready for a new home and the trade deadline or in the offseason as several rival teams make aggressive offers for the Milwaukee Bucks and for him. The franchise is starting to listen. Sean gave an additional background during the report inside the NBA, listening the Nix Warrior Heat Timberwolves as potential landing spot for Yannis. In September 2020, Yonis says his future lies in Milwaukee

and that he wouldn't try to push his way to a new destination. It's not happening. That's not happening. Some will some see a wall and go another direction. I'll ply through it. We just have to get better as a team. individually and get back, get back at it next season. He also said, this is what he said after winning a championship.

It is easy to go somewhere else and go win a championship with somebody else. It's easy. I could go to a super team, but I just do my part and win a championship. But this is hard the way I do it and the way to do it and the way we did it. F did it, man. We're talking real spicy. I hear him I hear him talking

didn't he just sign with Rich? I think he did I think didn't he just trying with Rick Paul? Yeah

yeah yeah so he ain't going he may not come out per se Uncle and Ocho and say

you know he wanted to be traded Rich going to be the bad guy and this he already been the bad guy so there ain't no problem for him

that one I'm trying to tell you Joe Joe and didn't I tell y'all he was getting traded a long time ago

Well, we knew that because we heard the whistle. We just don't know where he's going yet. Yeah, I mean, well, I'm not going to just, I don't want to mess up my source, but go ahead. I'm going to let you all finish. You still, you think he's going to the heat? I'm saying the heat, the heat is in the running. The talks are happening behind closed doors.

I'm not sure if they're going to be able to put a package together to get him because of the package that they're going to put together. We ain't going to have no goddamn bench. Y'all, y'all may get Jai, Marend, Ocho, but y'all ain't going to get Yons. I'm with Unk. I think, I think Yon is going to go to New York. York. Yonis over there.

They, they, they's cat, cat and Yonis swap. That's going to be one of, that's one of them. And about three, about three first riders and about three picks swap, first rider than three pick swaps. Yeah, but I definitely think he, I definitely think he's going to get out of Milwaukee. Considering that he didn't change Asians, Anki-Ocho, that means something.

The writing on the wall, Joe. But you see, you have to be careful. You see. The thing that I like most about, LeBron and Kevin Durant. Don't give a damn what people say. See, Yonis cares about what people say. That's why he's trying to do it this way,

because he don't want to be the bad guy. He don't want to be the bad guy. Now, everybody crushed LeBron for leaving Cleveland and going to Miami. Everybody killed Kevin Durant for leaving O'KC and going to the Warriors. Each guy believed that they couldn't win a championship there as the roster was currently constructed.

So they left. and everybody ripped them. I'm trying to figure out how everybody got on board for Yannis. Because he said he didn't want to be no super team. He said he didn't want to go nowhere. That's what he's saying. I'm just saying what he said. Now, if it's a lie, he told it.

Now, what's the difference? I think if I like it, Joe, whatever you do, I can see no wrong in it. Go ahead, Joe. I think, you know, he was a little excited, unc caught in the moment. They had won a championship. And I think he, you know, his emotions just kind of got the best of them. You know, you just go to talking and rambling. But you can't, you don't know, you don't know, you know, what your future holds two, three years down the line after you win a title or you playing on these great teams, so to speak. It's a lot can happen

in a year, man. You know what I mean? So I'm looking forward to a shakeup in the NBA. I think the NBA needs it, man. We need a, we need a good shakeup. hopefully he goes wherever he goes okay oh joe they probably gonna be picked to win it I'm just gonna keep it real the boy talented oh yeah for sure he talented he's gonna he gonna bring he gonna bring some positives to whatever team he go to

man if he go to New York they gonna but look at Miles Turner's like bro I came to play with you in less than a year you out real walking said we did everything we came in Dane for you we messed up about stuff.

We gave up, what we gave up to try to get you. They're screwed. You need a guy like this, it takes years to recover. You got to get a little lucky. Because ain't nothing like that

coming through that though, no time soon. Well, no time soon. Collectively, collectively, it just depends on what you get back. You get a couple players who can keep you afloat, keep you at least top six in the east,

seven in the east, have you to where you still competing. You don't want to plummet, and now you ain't even in the playing. You know what I mean? You still want to compete. I think the thing is like with Cleveland, when Braun left, you look at all the first round picks that they, and it's because the thing is that you don't want him to leave for nothing.

See, KD, what KD kind of crippled OKC is because when he left, they didn't get nothing. Probably had they known maybe you trade it, but you're hoping that you can resign him. Well, LeBron leaves and these guys like this leaves and you don't get draft compensation. You don't get, you know, a couple of quality players and some first round draft picks.

You do doomed. You do. Yeah. Because the NBA is unlike NFL is a superstar driven league. One player can really change everything. Everything. Yep. Absolutely.

So you really, you really like if you get them, that's why they have, they carry so much weight. That's why they have so much clout. That's why teams give in to these guys. They're talking about, oh, you know, cludge got too much control. Y'all gave into that because y'all knew y'all wanted LeBron.

You know what comes along with that. You know what comes along with having a Kobe. Rest is soul. You know what comes along with having a LeBron or Yonis or KD. You know what comes along with it. Don't pretend now. Yeah.

They want to leave or something at this time, you know. Now all of a sudden, like, we didn't know you knew. you knew what comes along with players like that. I can only imagine because I know how it is for a quarterback. The braid is in the top tier quarterbacks. I can only imagine what is a superstar

because you got only 15 players. You got 53 guys. You got the mold and Joel and make sure everybody's on and NBA that ain't in. Got 13 guys. Oh Joe, you know good well. Our best friends and all that stuff

ain't getting to come anytime they want to. They ain't getting no. key to no they can't do whatever they want to no no no no no no no no no hey we we ain't signing your brother neither man exactly we ain't sign that so

if they trade yon it they got to trade his brother with it oh that's a that's a package deal oh yeah yeah yeah yeah that's a that's a combo burger and fries yeah we charge you $8 whether you get the fries or not so you might as well get it so you get this combo

you get the burger fries and coke for $8 or you don't have to take the Coke and you don't have to take the fries, but you still get charged $8. Ain't no price, ain't nothing off. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. But I just look, I don't begrudge, Janice.

I just think the thing is that, you know, it's easy to say those things, Joe and Ocho, when things are going good. See, now he's come to the realization, man, that can't get nobody. Ain't nobody wanting to say, you know what, let me go to Milwaukee in free agency. not anybody good you got miles turn up because i don't know i guess miles felt he felt some type of

way about indy you know reports are they gave him give india chance to match or anything i don't think indy was going to match that they gave him a nice little bag to come over that milwaukee but you let me ask your question if he thought yonis was going to leave you think he took that no absolutely not i don't know i think he probably i think obviously he wanted to play with yonis But to get his money, Uncle Ocho, yeah, he probably, yeah. You were to win anyway? Yeah, yeah, to get his money. But he got to got his money somewhere else.

I don't know. He got like 100 and something. 108, got like 108. I mean, he could have got that 108 elsewhere. If he knew Yonis was leaving. I believe Indiana would have gave him something close to that. Maybe not 108, maybe 100. Maybe 100.

Maybe 98. I think with Halliburg getting hurt, they kind of drilled everything they kind of had going. But guess what? Hallibur is going to come back. When Yonis leave? Yonis ain't coming back. And if he does, he won't be there. They can, Indiana can trade for him and bring it back.

They can bring buddy back to Indiana. But it's, the thing is, when you're in these markets, I can see if he's in New York, he was in Chicago, he was in L.A. It's easier to get free agents to come to those cities than it is. You ain't get nobody to come to Milwaukee. You're not getting, LeBron could get, LeBron was at the apex of his power. in Cleveland and he couldn't get anybody.

Yeah. And for whatever reason, guys, I don't know why people don't want to go to Miami. Katie, Katie, how many chances to have Katie had to go to Miami, Joe? And they went yet. Yeah, he had a couple times.

Man, look, you know, Pat running a tight ship over there, huh? You know, you got, you know, them dudes you're talking about megastars. They want to bring their, Security. They bring, yep.

And Pat ain't having it. He ain't having all that. Yeah, he ain't having it. You want your trainer to travel with him? No, we ain't doing all that. He can meet us in the next city.

Yeah. We ain't doing all that. Randy, Randy Travel. Yeah. A bronze chief of staff. You ain't, I've never seen Brian without Randy.

Right. Me neither. They're cool people to me. Oh, yeah, they're good people. It's just he got to. And the hardest thing I think, Joe, you can tell. Let me know what you think about this. Coming to the realization that I can no longer win here,

no matter how great I am, I can't win a championship in Milwaukee again. Yeah, I mean, he's won a championship. He won him a title. So him moving around or getting traded to another team, I don't think it's that bad, honestly. I know if you're a Milwaukee fan or if you live in Milwaukee,

you don't want you don't want him to go but i i think i think it's time for him to move on and yes i think honest has i mean yonis has come to the realization that we just not that team that we used to be we just not a downed team anymore no matter if he's scoring 35 a night 16 rebound none of that matters we're not getting done no so i i think it is i think he has realized that which is why he has switched agents and you can kind of see the writing on the wall Joe, and I think the thing is like when they let Holiday go, he's like, hold on, wait a minute. Wait a minute.

Well, they let Holiday go and they got Dame, but Holiday went to Boston and won another title. So I think, you know, maybe Yonis felt the way about that. But I thought Dame and Janus was going to be perfect. They won't for Dame getting hurt. We don't know what they could have been on. We never got a chance to really see it. It was just like, it's just, I just, I just didn't see them being Shaq and Kobe,

D-Waid and Kobe. No. I didn't see that. And I think people thought that because they could be great to pick and roll. Dane's a point can handle the ball, can get the three out because when they packed the lane, Dane's going to get wide open shots. But for whatever reason, it was, I mean, it seemed like they played better when the other was off the court.

Yeah. Yeah. A little more free. I think if, if, wherever Yon is. goals, though, Arkin Ocho, he's going to kind of have to change his game a little bit because he's so ball dominant. Like, if you go, if you go on to play with another great point guard, let's say if you do go to New York, yeah, you're playing with Brunson, man, you're going to have to get in where

you fit in because they're not just going to give you the ball and let you bring it up every day and make it play. It's just not going to go like that. It's going to be, it's, it's, it's tough, man. It's tough because these small market teams, when you get a superstar, you do everything you possibly can you cater to him. You know, San Antonio, you know, they say the wives and girlfriends got to travel,

and that was one of the reason Tim Duncan didn't go to Orlando because he asked. Yeah. Will wives be able to travel? They're like, nah, we don't do that here. Okay, well, I don't come here. Right. Hey, you be doing your homework.

Oh, yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah. I know something, don't know. Like I said, I don't really, look, I know a lot of people in the league and I talk to him and I, you know, hey, This don't go no... Because think about it.

This don't go any further than this. I'm cool. Think about this, Uncle Ocho. If Tim Duncan goes to Orlando, he's playing with T-Mack and Grand Hill. Changes the landscape. Changes. And because they wouldn't allow that man-wife

to travel on some road trips. Yeah. Yeah. That's all you had to do, Ocho. Dang. To get Tim Duncan. That's it. She had bring them crying kids, too.

Bad please. To get a Tim Duncan? Yeah. But you're talking about a top 10 player all time. All time. And he was a top player at that point in time. He was a top five player in the NBA at that point in time. Yeah.

Yeah. Man, please. Damn. That's crazy. But there's something for certain things like certain guys, you know, free agency, I'm sure. Tom Brady had.

I get a suite. Peyton, I get a sweet. You know, I want that, Ocho. Yeah. On the road, I don't know, maybe I get a suite on the road. Yeah. Come Super Bowl time, I'm going to need X amount of tickets. I'm going to need a suite.

I'm going to need access to a suite because my family can't sit outside. Okay. I mean, to get a superstar, you, hey. Yeah, got the bargain. got to accommodate them yes but I guess that was that was a spurs thing I guess the spurs still you do the spurs

you play for the spurs did you don't joke did you play for the spurs no I ain't played for the spurs do they still do they still live wives and girlfriends on the plane you I don't know if the spurs probably do but I'm thinking like man we we the teams I played on I play here in

Atlanta for seven years we never you could never bring girlfriends wives You can never, you can never, you can never, you couldn't, you couldn't do none of that. You couldn't do nothing. Even when I played in Phoenix and I played on, I played on that great team. I don't never remember none of that. I don't never remember no team I played on the way. They was allowing you to bring your wife, your kids.

I don't remember none of that. Yeah, they ain't. Go after Raptors what they did when they got Kawhi. They let them do whatever then. For real? He brought him He brought him a championship And got on up out of there

Damn That's, hey, that's baller right there Ocho A team trade for you You go there, you win a title Nah, I'm good I'm gonna go home I'm gonna go to L.A.

I'm gone. You're out of there. Yeah, I don't, look, get it. They got it, get it, get it. Get it. I mean, me, that's me, I don't, you know, I wouldn't want my wife

a girlfriend in that situation, but some people, hey, some people want their wife a girlfriend. Now, the only wives on that plane,

the owner's wife, and Mike's wife. There was the only two women on that plane other than the flight attendants. Right. Period. Yeah. We didn't even think of,

we didn't even think about that. What? Now, when we went overseas, where did we go? We went to Berlin and we went to Barcelona, we was allowed to bring our wives and girlfriend on the plane,

so we all travel together. What a time. That's dope. Yeah, yeah, that was good. But y'all is going to be on the move. And guess what? He definitely. As soon as the trade deadline hit February to field,

that's next Thursday, right? That's trade deadline next Thursday. All of a sudden, y'all are going to be a bunch of me. He's a six-day week. I think, oh, you know what? I feel good to go. I'm good. I feel good to go.

I feel good at you. I feel good to go. But damn. Because you got to think about, Joe, when they got Kareen, he left. They had some good teams, but not like when they had Kareem.

And so when you get a guy, you know, you draft a guy, you get a LeBron, or you get a Yonis, or you get a Kareem in these small markets, boy, you pray to God. They have to. They have to cater to these stars because they know at some point these stars want to go out west, playing L.A., playing New York.

They already know this. So they got to do whatever they can to keep them, especially these small market teams. So I think it's pretty understood. You know what I mean? I mean, I guess people say that Popovich allowed that. You know, some people, hey, they want their wives. I remember when I first got to Denver, Ocho, we used to stay at home night before the game. Yeah, we weren't allowed to

Yeah, we definitely We got Wade Phillips We said, okay, we're going to stay at the hotel night before a game I said why? Why we just can't stay at home? But you know guys be out? Yeah, you're talking about a home game.

Yeah, that's before a home game. We were allowed to stay for three years that our own house. Man, that's baller, bro. I can't believe, like, in a home game, y'all had to go to hotel. In the Super Bowl, Dan, he allowed wives and girlfriends

to stay in the same room as the guys. Damn. Now, when we went, the family had their own hotel. We had our own hotel. We could go down there, but they couldn't come to our hotel. Because Mike's like, no,

we're not going to have kids running on the hall. We're not going to have all this and that. If you want to see the kids, go down there. You make that a little sacrifice for a day or two. too. Yeah. That was good. That was, that was, that was, that was, that was, that's how we should be. And I think families understand that.

You'll understand. Look, we're there to win a game. It's much more fun. I, look, I didn't lose. But I can just imagine, it's probably more fun to win than it is to lose that game. Lose. Yeah, yeah. Especially that one.

Man, Ocho, because it happens so quick, the gun in, man, you look up, Ocho, they don't got the field taped off. I'm like, well, damn. And they ushering you out, hey, hey, hey. They're like dabping them up. And you're dapping somebody else. They're pushing them off the field.

Because, you know, family coming on, media coming on cameras, everybody coming on. Confetti is falling down. I'm like, well, damn. And then I remember in Baltimore guys, that was Sunday. So that Monday, man, we pulled it up. We leaving at the same time the Giants leaving. Oh, Cho.

You'd have thought they was going to a funeral. Man, they looked, they looked so deject. They were sad. They were sad. I was like, oh my God. I said, I show, show hope I'd never have to feel like that. Because I can just imagine, I imagine how I felt when we lost the 96, Ocho. That was a divisional game.

Can you imagine what? Man, I don't know what I'd have done, Ocho. The Super Bowl. I don't know what I'd have done, Ocho. And you got to go into the summer with that feeling? Oh, man. at least they don't really show they don't really show a divisional rounds like they show the Super Bowl NFL Network going to show the Super Bowl about 25 times between now and next football

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They can still stay in the hunt. But, boy, they're going to be a fool wherever he goes. Jay Crowder, Rips Doc Rivers said Buck's hiring head coach started Yonis Trade Rumors, Avalanche. We started 30 and 13 to bring in Doc. This is what started the avalanche.

Adrian Wardenowski, the Milwaukee Bugs dismissed Adrian Griffin sources tell ESPN. Joe, what you think? Yeah. You think that's what started? I thought Adrian was doing a great job. I thought Adrian Griffin was doing a great job, Arkansas. 30 and 13?

And you? 30 and 13. They had to be top two, three team in the east. And you fire him to bring in Doc and everything just kind of dewindle from there. You know what I mean? Like you had a good team in place. Obviously with Dame getting hurt, I just think it kind of lost our hope. But yeah, they got to get rid of, they got to get rid of Yonnas now.

They got to. Dang. Doc got to stay there. Yeah. You can't, hey, that don't happen in football. Hell not. You got a hell's an record like that. The charges fired Marty Shottonheimer after going 14 and 2.

Because him and AJ Smith. Yeah, they fired. They fired. You remember that, Ocho? They, yeah, they fired Lovie Smith after going 10 and 6. And they just, and they were in cell, and they were in hell until they got Ben Johnson. Ben J.

They should have never fired Lovby. But A.J. Smith and Marty Schottenheimer, arrest Marty's soul. They couldn't agree. He went 14 and two and they fired him. But the killer part is, I don't even think Asian Griffin going to get another, another crack at it. It's a cold world, boy.

Probably won't. And that's the sad part about it, Joe, because, you know, he's not one of them names. Adrian Griffin. What was the guy that was at the Pelicans? I don't know if he'll get another job either. Willie Green. I don't know if you get another job either. I play with Willie.

I play with Willie here in Atlanta. I played with him for like a year or two here in Atlanta. Yeah, he might not get another chance neither. Joe. Thank. That's crazy. LeBron tears up over the tribute, the video at the Cavs route the Lakers. Bron tiered up during a timeout with 746 remaining in the first quarter when the cab showed video highlights of him scoring 25 straight points during game five of the 2007 Eastern Conference Finals against the Pistons.

He wiped his eyes with a tower after the video played. It was the first time that the Cavaliers have honored LeBron by playing a highlight from that game. Usually they showed clips of game seven of the tournament. 2016 NBA finals when Cleveland won its first championship. Joe, did they, did the Hawks give you a video tribute? Yeah, they gave me a video trip. You become emotional? They gave me a video trip.

Did you become emotional? No, I ain't become emotional. You know, I'll be so locked in. I mean, I'm appreciative of it. And I obviously got great memories. You know, they still got a lot of people who work at the arena. when I was playing, they still there. So when I go to the arena, I go to the House games

because I go to quite a few, man, it brings back so many memories. I ain't going to lie. I get chills. I get goosebumps when I walk in there because I get to see a lot of old familiar faces and a lot of people who've seen me go to war night in and night out.

So it's always a great feeling to be back in there. But for LeBron the night, for what he's done for Cleveland, you know, coming back, Uncle Ocho, from that deficit down 3-1 in the finals and coming back and winning it, man, please. And then he led everybody at every stat, points,

rebound, assists, blocks, and steals. Hey, man, what he's done for the NBA alone since he was 17, 18 years old, man. Uncle Ocho is remarkable, bro. Like, I tip my hat to him because he exceeded expectations. Yeah. You know what I mean?

I heard about it in my rookie year when he was just a junior high school when Antoine Walker was saying, man, this is a dude. LeBron James came to Chicago, who would us? You know, he already looked like a pro. I'm like, man, please. There ain't no dude coming in his leave for going to be cutting up like that. Right.

That boy came in here stepping on some stuff. You hear me? You're right. I mean, there are not very many six, seven, 18-year-olds. Get drafted and automatically get handed the keys to the car. Now, because they not, they not, they wasn't physically opposing like he was at 18, Uncle Ocho. The man was built.

He was already, he already had a grown man body. Yeah. He had no little 18 year old body. That boy was grown. According to the ESPN report, the calves would welcome LeBron back this summer too if he wanted to join the team for his 24th season. Joe, would you like to see LeBron go back to the calves? I wouldn't, I wouldn't, I wouldn't mind.

And, but, hey, look, but just how we talk about Yonis and his brother got to get up out of that, they're going to have to take bring Brunny with him. Brunny got to go with him, but Brunny got to go home with him. Bronte got out, brought him two, three tonight, got a dunk? Yeah, yeah, but they, hey, the game was so out of control. It was bad. Boy. But I do, I do think him going back to Cleveland would definitely help them because they got everything you can need, man.

and they just need somebody to orchestrate that day. That'd be dope, huh? Yeah. Joe, I think that will be dope. Obviously, Ronnie going back to it with him. But I know LeBron going to keep it going, though. He's going to keep it going until he gets the opportunity to play with his second son. I'm telling you that's going to happen.

Yes. But ain't that man building like some $30 million house out there? $35, $40 million. He might be more than that because he bought the house for $30 million and tore it down. I didn't like that, Ocho. I'm moving in. That's a different. $30 million.

I'm moving in. They better have left the furniture, TV, linens, everything. Hey, that's a different kind of. Yeah, and tow that thing down. $35 million, man, please. I mean, you start seeing houses like $35 million and $50 million, $70 million.

I went into a $70 million house. Wasn't that night. Shoot, that goddamn, who is that? As Ross. Ross bought something over here on Star Island, down here in Miami, Young. Man, house about $28 million. Ask me with a house at her.

Knottled all the way down to rebuild. Wow. I was going to start, we had a party on Star Island one time with the Super Bowl. We came to Super Bowl in 99, Ocho. You're jumping over there. Cut an old helicopter over there. Hey.

Go to helicopter over there. Oh, Joe. Oh, okay. Yeah. I wasn't but a live, I ain't like that no more. I was hell, when I was hell, but I was well. I ain't like that no more. I was slashed to slow down.

Heelps got me. Hey, hey, Joe, it's different over there on Star Island, boy. You got to have a different type of... Yeah. It got to be coming out to Wazoo, ain't it, man. Hey, and the funny thing about it, most of the people that own them house on Star Island,

then them damn vacation home. Like, come on, man. a vacation home for 30 up. Joe, ain't nothing over there, 20 million or less. Nothing. Everything's starting at 20 and up. Damn. It's, uh, in the house, I went to the, uh, I was like, you know what?

He got this house 70 million, all this, the whole wall go down. You could overlook all the LA and see all the about everything. I was like, let me go see who you got the garage. What do you had in their house? Two Teslers. A collector. What? Two Teslas.

I swear. That's it. Two Tesla's. Hey, hold on. His house was $70 million like $70? Total real estate agent, he's looking for something in the neighborhood between $60 and $100 million. He gave him seven days to find something.

I mean, the deal of the table we said that on your probably, it probably seat. about 30, 40, 40 people. Oh, one of them. Yeah. Okay. I know you're talking about it. Like in the castle, like in the castle.

Man, they try to talk to me. I said, y'all have to come down here, man. Tell me what he's saying. Wait that back. Man, I can't hear what he's talking about. You're talking about football and what I think about this? What I think about that? Right.

Right. That's, that's a different. Oh, yeah. Ocho, you got to see it. You got to see it. You got to see this high for, Ocho. Yeah, maybe one day we might be able to get it. I don't know how to $70 million, man.

Hell no. Hey, I don't know. $70 million for a house on you? Do you know the upkeep is on that? I mean, you never know what God might bless you. He can bless me with 70 and I give me up the house I mean. Okay, okay. Yeah, you say that now.

Man, listen. What's a 70 million dollar house? What's a square footage on that? Probably. I'll say somewhere between 30 and 40,000 square feet. God damn. I'm telling my, you, hey, you won't even see. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, you could literally, yeah. I mean, they got an area, I mean, the couch, the couch probably like, I say 20 feet. Fireplace, they got a fire. I swear, I'll swear, it got a fireplace by, the fireplace is probably 10, maybe 15 feet wide. Jesus Christ. And so that's just the outside.

That's the one that you sit on to just end an infinity pool. That's not the pool that got down, but that's just the infinity pool that you. Lord, have mercy. Yeah, yeah. I tell you what, I'm gonna call him and say, man, I told somebody about your place. I wanna take him up there to see it.

See, I'm trying to stay out a few days. No, no, I told him about it. He's like, you know, if you ever want to stay, I say I couldn't. I couldn't even be good conscience. I can't sleep. I could. Well, you don't gotta stay. I can't sleep.

I can't, but I watch. Hey, how I'm gonna sleep watching? Make sure don't nothing leave this man house. Man, I can't sleep a week. Hell no. Hey, don't worry about it. I stay for you. Hell, absolutely not.

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But if I had somebody say, hey, pull up on these dots and catch them right here and you're going to win, and then when I go win, it's like, yeah, that's cool. I won the tournament. The ultimate goal is done. But it's like, dude, when you find them and you make them bite, that's the puzzle. I love it.

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Yeah. The Browns. Coach have hired former Ravens offensive coordinator Todd Monkin to be the next head coach. Monkin, who has spent the last three seasons in Baltimore, will become the Cleveland's 11th full-time coach since returning to the NFL in 1999. In Monkins' first season with the Ravens,

help Lamar Jackson win his second MVP in 2023. Despite the great success in 23 and 24 with Monkin as Ravens OC. As Lamar O.C. Monkin had chemistry issues during the previous season as reported by team sources. Munkin demanding coaching style clash with Lamar's preference. Ocho? Yeah. How do you see Todd Munkin handling the battle between Shudor and Deshaun?

if he couldn't deal with Lamar. Well, listen, he's had some successful Lamar. It doesn't matter who coach Lamar. Lamar is going to be who Lamar is. Joe, you can go out there and coach Lamar. He's going to be the exact player he's always, he's always been. He's going to be that two-time MVP type player

that can change the dynamic of a game at any point. Todd Munkin's going to have to get in his bag over there in Cleveland. You'll do more to that. He's going to have, he's going to have to get in his bag as an officer coordinator and have a plan. I'm not sure what that plan is going to be. I'm not sure who you're going to go with, whether it's Deshaun Watson, whether it's Taylor, Dylan Gabriel, whether it's Ador Sanders. But he's going to have to find and find out very quick who's going to be the quarterback number one in the team.

And after that, then you forgot what you're going to do in the other surrounding areas offensively where you need help. And they're going to need a lot of help. I have no problem with the hired self. He's had success, obviously, with Lamar, but there is no Lamar. Jackson and Cleveland, huh? No. There is no Lamar Jackson in Cleveland. Therefore, everything Todd Munkin has to provide to help those quarterbacks,

he going to have to be in his bag, huh? He got to be in it. Remember, he won two national championships with Stetson Bennett as a quarterback at the University of Georgia. Hold on, Matt. Wait a minute. Stetson Bennett as his quarterback on a Georgia team that was loaded on God damn defense. Now he has, he's going back to a team where they're loaded on

defense. Now the Achilles here for the Cleveland Browns has always been on offense. If you can get that offense on point, just meet him halfway, Unk. Just maybe somewhere Joe in the middle of the pack. You ain't got to be top five. You got to be top five. Just meet us half goddamn way, please. They got some

promising young talent though, Uncle Ocho. Hey, wait. Hey, what's the titan name? Fanny. Oh, Fanny. Boy, that Hal Fanny Jr. Damn it. Hey, that young boy there?

Boy, hey, Joe, um, he is the real deal. Yes, sir. He's the real. And speaking to Cleveland Brown, a, eh, um, if I see Miles Garrett, anywhere in Santa Clara, yeah, he got to see me. He gave you a jersey away. Joe, he sent the jersey to the Hall of Fame instead of getting it to me,

knowing I asked for it first. Man, we told you he were going to do that. Hey, Joe, hey, Joe, I'm for the Mollywhopping, Joe. I'm for the M. Hey, Ocho, Ocho, leave that long, let they go. No, no, no, no. You don't, you don't disrespect me like that. You told me you was going to give me the jersey.

So that means you're supposed to be a man of your word and give me the jersey. I don't care who asked for it. If I ask first and you say yes, now I got to whip your ass. Well, I don't think he's going to be ducking on smoke. Yeah, but he ain't got a duck. He ain't got a duck. He ain't got a duck. He going to get what he looking for.

Okay. He think he had 23 sacks. It's going to be 24 when I get done with you. Oh, okay. I think the thing is for me, Ocho, let me know what you think, Joe. I think it'll be easy. It's hard to coach superstar quarterbacks. It's hard.

It ain't easy. Ask anybody that's ever had to coach him. You think it's easy coaching Don Brady? Now, it makes your job easy, but they're going to need to know. They need to know what you're telling me is legit. They got questions. They're going to need you to give them answers. Not while I get back to you.

No, you better find you better know the answer. It's not easy coaching these guys now because these guys are brainy. I mean, you talk about Lamar and Lamar like, Lamar, like, hold on, who you, who you're yelling? Who do you think you're talking to? And I'm so glad you just mentioned that too,

where how hard it is the coach, quarterbacks. And I'm not sure if you seen the clip Joe or Unk, I'm sure you saw the clip, Unk, I know you've seen it before, but goddamn Bill O'Brien and Tom going at it on the sideline. And Brady going down the sideline, chat. I don't know if you guys have seen that clip, you know? So if they went at it like that on the sideline,

what do you think happened in practice? Oh, yeah. Hey, Joe, one of the greatest times of my life being a New England Patriot is goddamn Bill O'Brien and Tom Brady going at it in practice for about five minutes straight. I'm talking about you think I'd be messing up cursing on here sometime. Oh, Tom will curse now. Hey, hey, Joe, I was sitting there. smile and ear to ear, I'm like, oh, what ain't really going at?

Like, because of their ass out, Tom. Hey, they, I'm talking, I'm like, oh, this is how it is. No one of these dudes win all the goddamn time. Everything got to be right, Joe. Yeah. Everything has to be perfect. If it's not perfect, you're doing it over. And you're not doing the playover.

You're starting the whole period over and doing it again. Mm. That's what was expected of everybody, especially offensively. So when things didn't go right, Tom got on Bill. When things didn't go right, Bill got on Tom. And they kept that standard no matter what. And it helped me understand, well, God damn, no wonder they went all the goddamn time. And, oh, Unk, I wish you could have been there to see that, Unk.

I ain't never in the history of all the time that I played the game of football, ever seen a quarterback and the coach go at it like that. But it was awesome. Yeah. And from that point on, the rest of practice, he maxed. Oh, you gotta have a standard. Not one mistake, not one drop ball, no nothing. It's just everything was smooth.

We went out there, I forgot who we played that week. Man, we put up by damn there 40 points, Joe. Put a band up 40 points. Oh, that's, yeah, we went to the Super Bowl, Joe. Yeah, we went to the Super Bowl that year. There has to be a level of expectation. That's, we all lost two there, oh Joe. The Giants, man.

Myers, man. Oh, Eli? Yeah, Eli caught with that Mario Manningham on the sideline and gets covered to

Yeah on the side he dropped it in the bucket, Ocho. He dropped it in the bucket. That was a beautiful throw. Damn. Yeah, that's what I'm, look, you know, being around John

and being around Mike because Mike was like that. For real? You might get away if you drop one in a team period. Drop two, start it over. I let me lower.

Please do. All I'm saying, I don't want to be the one. Right. Right. Right. Man, boy, look here. Mike was hell, man. There's a,

when I say he said, don't accept anything in a win, you wouldn't have a loss. Yeah, he meant that. Yeah, he had to have, we had to get it. I mean, run, catch any pass. I don't give a damn if it was a down flat.

You finishing 40 yards. 40. Yeah. And come back. And they got to run back. Yeah. But then you're like, okay, now understand why we do it. You get a greater appreciation for why you do things and you see, okay.

So this is why the 49ers had success. Because they were like the Patriots in the 80s. Yeah. You're like, okay, now I see. Now I see. who Brown's defense according to

to Jim Swartz might be out of the door after the team hired Monkin as his head coach according to Tom Pelliserro Pelasero reported that Swartz

who's one of the three finalists was visibly upset and said goodbyes in the building and told other coaches he's not coming back opposing teams

are reportedly to bounce if he leaves also Miles Garrett just posted on IG That's bro sitting down like, damn. Hey, Joe, you see that lady that working Popeye, see how she look? Yes.

That's just how I'm going to have miles looking when I catch up to him out there in Santa Clara, just like that. Miles like, man, this man just got me a unanimous defensive player of the year. I was playing good with this man and this is what y'all will do. Hey, hey, um, come on now. you know man listen anybody you could have been coaching that brown defense Miles garrett still would have got them 23 sacks he still would have been an all pro

in matter of fact even if Mrs. Swartz is leaving whoever comes in to take over that goddamn defense you got the pieces in the personnel where you're going to be all right you got the pieces in the personnel where you going to be all right that was the top five defense all season long now right

they they ain't hey Joe they ain't shabby at all. Yeah, no, I check them out a few times. They did they think. They did their thing. They're good defensive. They're good defense. Very good. They just need some pieces of offensive. They need a wide receiver. They need offensive line help. I thinking Joku's going to leave so get another tight end. Do you really? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

That's why they got Fannett in. It don't hurt to have two of them, Joe. Yeah. You can find you won in the fourth or fifth round. Hey, a fanning. Oh, I like it. I like him a lot. He nice. You think Joku going to require too much money?

They're going to move. Like you said, they got Fannie. So, you know, we go draft the tight end. We get him on a low number, run a lot of double tight end sets. Yeah. Look at the Patriots. They got Hooper and they got Hunter Henry.

You look at the bills. Team, you know, it definitely helps. Definitely helps. The bill's promoted offensive coordinator Joe Brady as the next head coach earlier this week. The decision to fire Sean McDermen and elevate Brady rather than clean house is now under heavy scrutiny. Ocho, are you confident that Joe Brady is the guy?

I mean, what's the goddamn difference? He was already there. Hey, you might as well have kept Mr. McDermott. Joe, that don't make no sense to me. Yeah. If you're a head coach and someone that's under you, you know I mean if you find McDermott

why the hell everybody else ain't fired they want a different voice in there Ocho man come on that come on that I don't understand how Brandon Bean kept his job who was at the gym I don't know how he kept his job that's what I need somebody help me

explain that to me because it seemed like Sean McDermott caught all the criticism and I get it you know Mr. Maggoula you know he's supporting his GM because he gave him a more of title. But those for layers, I think, you know, he wanted to put, um, what's the, uh, Keon Coleman. He put that in the lap of, uh, Sean McDermott.

Yeah. I just, it's crazy. A new voice. That's the same voice he's heard. I look, I, I, I, look, I, I think Joe Brady did a phenomenal job. Yes. I think the thing is, Ocho is that, uh, Sean McDermott. You know, his defense, they've been one of the top offenses,

but defensively is kind of where they falter. Yeah. And that's his level of expertise. Remember, they fired Leslie Frazier. Yes. Yeah. Leslie Frazier was our decontinated in Cincinnati too, huh? Yeah, Leslie Frey.

Yeah. Chris Frazier. So what's the, what do you think? Super Bowl the bus this year, Ocho? For the bills? I mean, well, hell. That was supposed. to be this year, huh?

This year, this was the easiest route for him. You ain't had to deal with three of three of the better players out of the AFC. You know, so maybe next year, maybe next year's a little different. Maybe he can, he can run the gauntlet. He can beat my homes. He can beat Burrow.

He can beat. I ain't bet nobody in the playoffs. We don't know. We don't know what next year is going to look like, but hell. And what the bills need? Receiver, a one. They got a one. I think the thing is, look, there's too many

turnovers. This was on Josh. This one's on Josh. Because Josh is really good in the postseason, Joe. He hadn't had a turnover in six playoff games. He picked the worst time to have the most turnovers he's had in the very long time. It's hard to win on the road with five turnovers and four of them is at the hand of your quarterback.

Now, guys fumbling and stuff like that, ain't really a whole lot you could do about that. But this was on Josh's watch. So it's tough. And, you know, Sean McDermen, I know Sean McDermy and Ocho and I was talking about, look, this grandstanding, he knew he couldn't challenge that. He knew that call, the call what it was. And he knew the, you know, you got to survive the ground.

But he knew, they probably had, if they didn't flat out tell him they had probably alluded to, you're going to need to get to the Super Bowl in order to stay in the job. You probably He probably knew that. Oh, I knew. I talked about this in Ocho. You laughed at me because I told you in October. He's like, you think brother McDermen?

I said, oh, yeah, absolutely. Yeah, you did see he was out of there if they didn't win. What I tell you about, what I tell you about the Steelers and the Ravens? The coach's your situation. Harbaugh. Yeah.

Oh, yeah. Yeah. New voice. You said, loud and clear. Loud until. Yeah, Harbaugh, been there for a minute. 18 and uh he's been to 18 years and tomlin had been there 19 damn oh cho yo

Sean Payton announced that the team has parted ways with offensive coordinator Joe Lombardi wide receivers Carrie Colbert and cornerbacks coach Addison Lynch. Lombardi spent 12 years over two different stents on Peyton staff with the Saints and has been the Broncos offensive coordinator since Peyton was hired in 2023 however Peyton is the offensive play call

Sean, don't do this. I love Sean Payton is great. Why you fired that man, you made the call. You went forward on fourth down. Joe Lombardi, so what? Joe Sparland saying, coach, you an effing idiot if you do this? Right. I don't get, I don't, I can see if Joe Lombardi called a place,

but first of all, every, every play caller that's not the head coach, the head coach is listening in here. Nah, let's run it in this situation. He could have easily said that. I got a question. Who fired him? Sean Payton fired him. Was that Sean Payton's call or did it cover him?

Sean Payton fired him. Sean Payton has a lot of control. A lot. Right. Damn, I wonder what. Cause he getting a lot of heat for that boat. He's getting a lot of heat for that call. Paul is that a premium.

The weather, huh? The same Kerry Coburn that played receiver? I guess. I don't know. No, I carry Cobb. I carry. I remember Carrie.

Yeah. Yeah. He played during, he played during my era, huh? Yeah, remember Carrie Colbert? I think he went to USC. I could be wrong. I think, I think he went to USC. Chat, Carrie Colbert, went to USC, didn't he?

I just don't understand how Sean could fire this man and ain't nobody going to be sitting back there thinking like, Sean, what you doing? Bro, you call that play. That's on you. You knew the weather. There's no way, nobody can convince me that Sean Payton didn't know that weather was going to get vastly different in the second half that it wasn't the first. And 10 points.

Now, obviously, you don't expect your quarterback to turn it over the negative field position, but still. Sean Payton has consistently said he would not surrender to play calling duties as Broncos O.C. Lamberti was in the coach's booth and among those on the headset during the game. But Peyton was the voice in the quarterback. helmet. So how did the coordinator lose his job when you call him the plays? It might be something else we don't know about, huh? They might have had some disagreements. They might have had some quarrel.

I told you you were effing idiot for calling for it on fourth down. That's why he fired me. Because I was the voice of reason. Yeah. But you. That might be some stuff internally that we don't know about on, you know, maybe a disagreement probably on exactly what you, exactly what you just said.

I mean, if you know the right people, you'll probably find out, though. You'll probably find out the real reason why he was fired. I don't think Sean Payton must have not thought that he was going to get this kind of criticism. Bro, that is a backup on his third team. And you have an opportunity to go up 10-0. Kick that ball.

See, Sean had started to get high on his own supply. He had started to drink the Kool-A that he really thought that Jerry Skidham was like that. He did. I'm not so sure we want to pay Manning. I don't think a Bill Belichick in that situation, I think Bill Belichick could get it. Because Bill understands situational football.

He understands. He doesn't got the weather report. This thing will get bad in the second half. I need. I got to do as much as I can. 10 points might be enough to win this game. And I'll be damn. 10 points was enough to win the game.

I know it hurt. I know. I hear it in your voice. You know what, Joe? And I told Ocho this. I said if we had lost with Bo, yeah. It would have been bad. You don't think y'all had a chance.

Yeah, we had a chance. Yeah, we had a chance. We kicked him. But he had, but he couldn't turn the ball over. Were you playing with your backup? Your backup can't turn the ball over. Yeah. Because he doesn't have the capabilities in the world with all

to go get those points back. That's not Tom Brady. That's not Peyton. That's not my home. That's not one of those guys that can have. have a turnover and still have that kind of, it have the ability to make plays. That's not, he's not a playmaker.

Not. All right. We'll get you out here on this one. It's time for our final segment of the evening. It's time for Q and A. Dr. Frank M. Bellamy said, oh, when you hit the ground, I thought you were going to shadow like glass.

Just joking. Love nightcap outside. Me too. That's why I don't do no falling, Doc. That's why, hey, I stay with stuff where I don't have to fall. I don't have to run. So. Yeah, you cut up, though, that first game, that golf game.

I ain't mean to do that, Joe. You cut up. I ain't even like me. You didn't? That ain't like me. Nah, like I said, I see what I'm dealing with. It's okay. Oh, Joe and I see what we dealing with.

Man, you know, man, Joe real quiet, man, Joe to himself, Joe full of caca. Joe ain't full of himself. You know, listen, listen, that cuss, I'm hanging out with you too loud mouth. And y'all talking, y'all talking to all that. y'all talking all that ish. Don't worry about it. Don't worry about it. You're going to get just what you're looking for.

One thing, Unk threw me the balls talking about some losers go first. I said, oh, okay. That's what set me off, Ocho. That's set me out right there. That's what it was. Okay.

You're saying. Okay. Hey, man, you know what I just thought about? Go ahead, Ojo, what? Hey, eh, uh, Joe. What are you call? A Chinese person with a camera.

A Chinese person with a camera. Yeah. What's their name? I hope y'all enjoy this because we're about to get canceled when Ocho come up with this. So I hope y'all enjoy Nightcap Wide Lasty. A Asian person with a camera. I don't know.

You got to answer, Joe? I ain't got nothing. What you got, Ocho? You call him? Filming. You get it, Joe? Yeah. Agent, camera.

Film me. Yeah. Lord, have birthday. See what y'all started, chat? Kippinornawood Jr. I was team unc all the way last night. Yeah, Kim, you know, I had to do what I did. I did, did what I do.

Do what I do. Oh, man. Who on my side? Ocho, they picked you to come in last from the jump. Oh, they did? They say they weren't surprised you came in last. So. Okay.

I see how it is. Yeah. I see how it is. Yeah, I question how you were so great in footballing. So, uh, uncoctioned underscore Joe, Jay. Yo, enjoy the video last night watching y'all compete. Great seeing y'all have fun. Need more videos like it.

Oh, easy now. You got the whiskey shot stiff this going on. Yeah, man. Bro, you gotta realize. You got to walk across country, trying to get that get up early in the body, man. in the body, man, I need, hey, they need to start this in the afternoon. They got to let me, hey, they got to let me get a hot shower, go to the steam room. I got to loosen up.

E. Ocho, uh, uh, uh, Joe, Joe, Joe, girl's saying, hey, man, I, I, I, I don't never see him like this outside of the house. It's great to see him. I'm like, oh, really? You ain't seen him like this. Uh, hold on, hold on, uh, uh, uh, Cho. y'all do know i had surgery six months ago that's the first time i done a uh uh uh extracurricul activity in six months okay oh so you're saying she said you behave like that outside of the house because i ain't i ain't be i hadn't been running with guys like y'all talking all that is

see i can't see i i told you i played to the level my competition then y'all started talking trash it just came out of the head i couldn't control that little rock came out of me i couldn't I couldn't control it. I could control it. All right. Uncle, uh, appreciate that, Jay.

Avenue 77. What's good? Uncle Ocho, wish my grandma, Barbara Johnson, a happy bidet from the Carolina, GA,

Maryland, Jersey, and New York and family. Miss Barbara Johnson, happy birthday. Happy birthday, Miss Barbara. We've got a lot of family members

all over to Georgia, Maryland, Jersey, New York. Hopefully you got an opportunity to do something fun. I hope you took her out, took grandma out, have a good time, let her go out, get some, she's probably like fried catfish,

maybe some oxtails, you know, something like collard greens, cornbread. I showed her to use me some good old cornbread, blueberry cornbread with that iron skillet. We got to find some places like that, Ocho. Good old cornbread, iron skillet, some raccoon, some squirrel joe. Boy, that's some good soul food.

Man, raccoon is squirrel. That's soul food. That's soul food. I mean, I've never known raccoon or squirrel to be under the soul food. I'm right. Yeah, it's under there. Okay. It's under there.

I get depending on where you're from, okay. Well, if you're from the south, if you're from any part of the south, from the Georgia to the Mississippi's to the Carolinas, the Arkansas, Alabama, absolutely. Right. Absolutely. All right. I.

The show underscore show. So, Uncun Ocho, the NFL Hall of Fame has lost all credibility. Bill and T.O. not being first balanced is ridiculous. Also 85, top rob receiver for the decade, put him in. Bro, I just, you know what, Ocho, I, I really, for the longest time, stop speaking on it. Because whatever I say, people are going to say, pro football Hall of Fame, a Hall of Fame, Shannon Sharp said. So it's not like I don't care.

I don't get a vote. So but they were taking it like where Shannon Sharp said this and Shannon Sharp Hall of Fame. So I was like, you know what? Y'all go with what y'all think. Right. It's tough. It's getting tough.

Like I said, when Derek Thomas had to wait five years to get in, T.O. had to wait three years to get in. Now with Coach Belichick, it does take some of the luster off of it. It's still an unbelievable honor. And, you know, people like, well, what do you think when you went in on the third ballot. I said, I don't care about no secret ballot, no absentee ballot. I'm in. I don't give a damn what I went in. Right. My family got a chance to see my home boys, my friend, so I'm great. Don Juan 47. Can I get a shout out to the Scottish veterans who

served in Iraq and Afghanistan? Bill B belongs in the hall. Love you. Absolutely. First of all, thank you for your support. Thank you for your protection and your services that you gave to. this country. You make what we do seem so inconsequential because of what you do and what you did. So I want to thank you personally and I want to thank all the men and women that's serving this

country around the world. Thank you for your service and I don't think we thank you guys enough for the work that you guys do so from Nightcap, Ocho and Joe, thank you for all the service men and women around the country. Thank you for your service. Yes, absolutely

belongs in the Hall of Fame. And don't give me this, oh, he going to get in. That's beside the point. That's beside the point. He should have been the first ballot. Aaron Owens, I'm shocked. Seattle never really put together a Wildcat package with Jaila Miro all this season.

Bro, they went 14 and 3, and you trying to find out a way to get Jailan Miro on the thing? Man, let me go on through this, man. You see what I'm talking about, don't you? You see it ain't never enough. They're in the Super Bowl. Sam Donald is a pro bowl player.

And this man talking about, well, I'm surprised they didn't find a wild kid. I can see if they didn't miss, if they missed the playoffs. Ocho barely survive. I saw Joe's trash talk at the lawn club. There is zero chance. He's hanging with uncle to the football field. Now, Joe, Joe sneaky. Joe pretend like, you know, hey, man, you know,

I've just had a good time and all the time just trying to gut you silently. But this day coming. Oh, yeah. I don't even know what John taught him. You'll find out. Don't worry about. You go find out what we're talking about. Arizona Ron Ford.

What's up? My boys. Can y'all wish my grandma, Jesse, May a happy birthday. She turned 72 today. Much love. Wow.

Absolutely. Miss Jessie Mae. Happy. Happy birthday. Happy birthday. Happy birthday. 72 trips around the sun. Thank you.

Hopefully you enjoyed your day. Oh, yeah. El Prey 98. A. Ocho. I'm glad I'm bringing Mississippi Massquire. That's him paying you.

back after cutting them over Maxwell and Michelle and DeGio Chello. Man, Maxwell, both of them going to sing, I'm I wedding. Are we still getting married next year? Yep. Yeah, okay, Ben. I thought it was 26. I might move it. It might be.

Oh, it's getting, it's. I mean, it was supposed to be 26. He moved it back. So I say, okay, bet, I waited another year. If, uh, hey, I met right get some Laportee, I mean, she can't be just right. I'd be at the courthouse. y'all eat nobody. We're supposed to have a double wedding.

It'd be at the coat house. You know, right now, Ocho, you know, I can't afford no, you know, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, I can't afford no rehearsal dinner, no big-ass dress. You're good, you good, you good. That's why if we do it a dual wedding, we get everything half off.

And I got a promise ring. I promise you I'm going to get you a ring, baby. That's all I got for, Ocho. I'm probably that's it that Joe, that's it. Rebel night wing. Bill should be running the NFL. You know,

I think everybody, a lot of people feel the same way. Obviously, everybody doesn't feel the same way, because if everybody felt the same way, we felt, guess what, Ojo, Joe, he'd be in. So clearly, there are the people that don't feel as strongly about it

as we do. Right. And at this point in time, I don't really know what we can do. And even if you got, okay, we find out somebody violated X, Y, and Z, what? He's still not getting in. Right.

So, and it kind of defeats the purpose. So I hate it for Coach Belichick. You might not like the way he conducted some of his things, but there ain't no denying the man as a first battle of hall of fame. He's the greatest coaching in history. And for them to pull this kind of funny stuff, it's just disappointing.

Robbie Lowe, thank you. What is the voting for? You're not, you may, you might not ever see that run again. Oh, I got to listen to it. You might not ever see that type of run again. He's talking about with Coach Belichick, and you won't.

Right. You might, you might not. You won't see that type of run again. 20 years with that kind of dominance, they went to, think about it, in 20 years, they went to nine Super Bowls. Mm. That's damn their Super Bowl every other year.

You're never going to see that again. No. And to not reward that man for his hard work. And you know he put time in. Like I said, two things can be true. But that man deserved to be in. Titans Forever 2. So I have a question.

If you could go back in time to do a duet with a famous music artist, who would it be? man me and sinatra what we talk about me and sinatra at the sands in Vegas I want to see 64 I want to see mj me and jay Michael Jackson oh plan okay okay okay okay yeah who you got huh

I'm a huge MJ fan and I love prints but if I could do it if I if I could like really had like vocals like that y'all know who I'm doing it yeah Michelle and Dege Ocello. All the people from the past, man. How are you going to pick Mr. Michelle. I don't know you.

Michelle and Dege. Okay. I got you. Oh, Joe, that song. That song asked in me, man. I can't get that out of my head. I know, but there's so many other grace before she came along that paved the way for her to be able to do what she's doing now.

But I think the thing is, Ocho, you know what is about her? If you really listen to her, It's the passion in which she sings with. Elephant Gerald sang with passion. Huh? Billy Holiday sing with passion. Lena Horn sang with passion. Huh?

Ethel Waters sang with passion. Okay, I take Prince then. Okay, there we go. There we go. There we go. That's a good one. I take Prince. Pris was a bad boy.

Yeah, he was. Sheldon Pope, your interview with Kevin Gates, hashtag fire. Appreciate it, man. Thank you guys for watching it. Boy, oh, Lord. Man, I've seen, hey.

Oh, my God. Oh, my God. What happened? What happened, Joe? Man, just Kevin Gates talking about his childhood. Talk about everything. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

I see it. Ooh, Lord. Handbags and heels. I so, congrats on your Hall of Fame nomination. Well deserved. Appreciate it. Yes. Thank you, thank you.

We're going to have a party, Joe, with your money. Hey, Eric George Scott. Hey, listen, listen. Let's see, look, now you're on Ocho get to party with me. It ain't about winning and losing no more. You know what I mean? You see what I'm talking about Jocho?

You see him now? You see him now. He's going to keep taking little jabs, huh? Okay. You can't take it like that. I'm just saying if I get in, boy, we're going, hey, we're going to cut up. You hear me?

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You see what I'm saying? Huh? Ocho, you see right? You see how he behaving? He misbehaving like to grab them over there. Boy, you misbehaving now. I heim loud and clear.

Eric George Scott, hey, y'all boys don't shoot no dicey with money. I'd hate to see a little Ocho get jacked up. Ah, no, no, no, no, no, no. No. Money out of sight calls a fight. You gotta have the money in the hand. Money got to be on the wood. Oh, hey, money, hold on.

In the hand, money gonna be on the floor. Don't worry about it. The money gonna be on the floor. We shoot on the pool table. We can't keep on the pool table. How are you want to do it? Yeah, let's get on a pool table so we ain't gotta get that on there flow. Yeah, I can't get that.

I can't keep getting the bed and over. You're gonna have to. You better get on one knee. Bring a knee pad with you. Oh, Joe, just give them a pool table. Bring, no, no, no, no, no. I need to be, I need to be on the flow. We're gonna put, we're gonna put the,

we're gonna put the little thing over the pool table, look cover over the pool table so the dice can roll good. Ah, see that y'all don't know how to shoot. I don't know how to shoot no dice. Hey, I got a question. Y'all like, y'all like the dice. Y'all like the dice with the sharp. Yeah, you got a sharp way.

You have a little roll-ass dice and shaved edges. You gotta, as a matter of fact, I'm gonna go to the casino and get some casino dice. Yeah. And don't try to get no one-way dice either. One way? Yeah. You, uncle, I'm gonna pull nothing like that on.

Yeah, yes, he would. Yes, he would. Yes, he would. Yes, yes, he would. I don't need to do no crooks. Yeah, all right. Well, he's all now. on rolling too.

It sound good. You got the sound effects down pat. Oh, big brother almighty. Hey guys, please wish my wife Sarah A a happy birthday. Sarah, happy birthday. Big brother,

what you do today, man? You take wifie out to eat, get a nice bite to eat. Y'all go to a movie. I mean, what did you guys do? I know you did something because you took time out to get on here

with nightcap and say, wish, wish Sarah A happy birthday. So I know you did something special. You wouldn't do it like that. T.S. Carbwhite detailed service. I saw Uncle Ocho. What player talked the craziest in the league?

John Rander? A damn Gary Pade, man. Yeah, GP. Hey, okay, Ocho, I seen GP. I heard G.P. I'm playing in the same game. Cuss out the referees. I'm talking about they don't get a man no tech or nothing.

I'm talking about just call them. I'm like, dang. Yeah. Your Majesty on God, Yon has got them a chip. That's the difference. No, the difference is he's leaving. He got a chip so he should stay. You see how y'all try to, you see when you make, see,

with somebody you like, Joe, you see, Joe, you see the concession that people are made? You see that? They move the goal. Oh, he got the chip. That's the difference. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. And look at what he said. LeBron never said that he was going to be in Cleveland forever.

KD never said he's going to be in Cleveland forever. KD never said he's going to be. at OKC forever, that he didn't want to go join up with other great players. Yon just said that. Hold him to his word. I ain't got no problem with it. But I just don't like the way y'all try to move because y'all try to dump on LeBron and KD every chance you get.

Yeah. Jonathan Black, it wasn't liquor that killed O'Bill. I detest it was a green hornet that flew up his nose and tickled O'bill to death. Is that right? It wasn't no liquor that killed O'Bill. It didn't even take his breath. Little Green Hornets with a bill nose, and tickled old bill to death.

Got there from Fred G. Saffron. Trey Brookschow, love y'all, man. Send it love for Mississippi. Appreciate that, Trey. We're going to have to get down to Mississippi. I'm trying to figure out what we can do. We can go mudding. Maybe we can go noodling.

You have been noodling, Joe? Newlid. In Mississippi? No, I think you got in Oklahoma, Texas like that. I think that's where they'd be noodling at. What is that? That would go catch your catfish. With your bare hands, you stick your cats.

hand in the hole and get pulled the catfish out. Man, you and Ocho ain't doing that. No, no, Ocho, um, and I so doing that. Yeah, I, I, I, I, I can, I think I could do it. I don't know, I don't think y'all got that in. Yeah. Move. My joke, but Joe, I live in the water, boy.

You, you swim, you can swim like a fish. You, I, y'all swim? Yes, I can swim. Okay. Hey, Joe, I used to catch catfish in the river right there on, on the banks in Cincinnati. A big catfish boy. What type of catfish you catch?

What catfish? Channel, Speckle, bottle. Oh, I don't, I don't, I don't know the scientific name exactly what kind of catfish. I just know that were catfish. They have some big-a-whiskles. What you were fishing with? Huh, my hand, Joe. Man.

And you know the water, hey, Joe, the water murky too, Joe. Yeah. You catch black cats. Specker, butter. I don't know, no, no, Joe. In Ohio. General serious. Seriously.

Bella cheat and the shade and shady are finally getting what they deserve for cheating. To think he doesn't deserve this is hilarious. Ask the players who lost Super Bowls if he deserves this. What a question is, who benefited from him cheating? If you feel that strongly about him, do you feel that strongly about anybody else that has a potential of getting in on that team? Okay, be careful. Six foot eight Aquarius since joining, since doing, since doing,

doing these commercials together, Justin Jefferson and Josh Allen need to play together. I don't think JJ will be opposed to that. He might, Ocho, he might miss play in that dome 10 games a year because, you know, they got,

when they play him, their dome, and then Detroit's dome. So I'm sure he's going to miss play at eight, nine to 10 games a year in the dome, but to play with Josh Allen. Minnesota ain't give, shit, Minnesota ain't given that young boy.

No. Nah. Joe X Black 92, AJ Brown to Buffalo next year. What y'all think? I can see that. I say that a minute ago. Yeah. Mike, Mike, what's up, Uncle Joe Iso?

When Yonis gets traders, what will he say? I did not expect to be traded. Wanted to be a buck forever. This caught me completely by surprise, but happy to be a Nick. Yeah. Yes, exactly what you're going to say. Because remember, I saw you and I talked about,

he said, whatever his agent works out, that's on them. That ain't got nothing to do with me. Like the agent doesn't work at the behest of the player. Right. Always. You see, he was already trying to distance himself from that. That ain't got nothing to do with me.

Caught me by surprise. Nah, your agent is an extension of you. Join behind F. Uncle Joe, I've dealt with seizures for a while, had another last night. Just wanted to say, appreciate the wisdom. energy you gave us. It helps more than you know. Jordan, I'm sorry that you're going through that man. I am so sorry, but I'm glad you're

doing well. Yeah. Anytime that Ocho and Joe and I can bring some fun into your life and and you don't have to deal with, I guess it takes your mind off the seriousness of these issues, the seizures that you're going through. That brings us joy as well. That brings us joy as well. Oh, yeah. So Jordan, thanks for watching us. I really, really appreciate that. and wish you all the best. That concludes this episode of Nightcap. Coach Belichick does not get in on the first ballot. Eli Manning doesn't get in on the second ballot.

And Janus wants to be traded. And many believe it's going to happen before the February 5th trade deadline. If it doesn't, it's definitely going to happen this summer. Thank you guys for watching another episode of Nightcap. I'm your favorite. That is my partner and co-host, Liberty City's own. Bengals, ring of fame, honorary, a former pro bowler, and an all pro.

That is Chad Ochosinko Johnson. And the third member of the Big Three joining us. He's a seven-time NBA All-Star for the Atlanta Hawks or Arkansas. Why you got that? Huh? Why you got the goddamn bill on? Come on, Joe. See, Joe, you do too much, man.

Now, I'm doing too much. Yeah, you do it too much, Joe. What's the belt for, Joe? What's the belt for? Ocho, y'all see how he act? You can tell somebody, you can tell somebody ain't one too much, man.

But that's okay, Joe. We got some, Ocho. And still. You see, I ain't chat. Now y'all see how he act. Oh, he'd be your own one. Y'all see, y'all be thinking, oh, man, Joe, so laid back.

Man, Joe full of cock-off. But this day coming. I was going out. That's all right. So, Joe Johnson. Thank you for joining us, Joe. please make sure you hit that subscribe button. Please make sure you hit the like button

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What was the total ended up being? What percent? Yes, what percent for no? 92 percent said he should have been a first ballot. 8 percent said no. But unfortunately, there's really nothing that can be done about it. Now, I know he's disappointed. I've been through this process before coach, but keep your head up.

They can't take those six Super Bowl victories away. They can't take those 300 victories away, nor all of those division championships that you want. So you're still the greatest coach in the NFL history. Sometimes things doesn't always go as we plan, but God doesn't make any mistakes. Your day is coming, and hopefully you still be as a football. appreciative when that knock comes as you would have been had you had gotten that call today yesterday or whatever the call went out. So again, thank you guys for joining us.

I'm Unc Heath. And Joe's back tomorrow. See y'all tomorrow, guys. Yeah. Peace. I'm thinking that now, ma'am. We're out. Peace. Love.

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