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Episode Date: January 1, 2026

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Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Joe, this is right up your alley. Anthony F. Edwards was clearly frustrated by the team's performance tonight. They lost 126-102 to the Atlanta Hawks. After head coach Chris Finch pulled Wolf starter, aunt left the bench,

went to the locker room with a little under eight minutes left in the game. The Hawks led at the time, 109 to 80. Fitch called time out after the call him out after the game said obviously frustrated with the performance and rightfully so but he needs to stay on the floor and root for his team. Today's game continued a frustrating stretch for the wolves who have lost three of their four games despite Ant Man averaging 31.3 during that stretch Minnesota sitting 21 and 13 this

year in sixth place in the west according to ESPN Antman and Atlanta native who played college ball at Georgia had a number of old friends and family at tonight's game, including his grandfather. Hey. I get all that. Bro, you down 30? Joe, you ain't coming back

with eight minutes to go down 30? You ain't coming back, but, you know, you got to control your emotions, bro. But I'm, I'm saying. That's why Finch took him out. Yeah, yeah, I get what you go ahead. But my thing is, here's what Amman thinking. He thinking, man, I'm back home at the crib.

I'm going to come out and show out because he was bawling. He was bawling. He was bawling. He was bawling. the rest of them dudes act like they didn't even know they had a game and i think you know he thinking to himself man i got all my people out here y'all come out we put on this lacklust of performance in front of my folks out here yeah he he he got a little beside himself he was pissed

off i could tell but i thought his play was pretty good uncle ocho he was bawling he don't me he had 30 i think like in the third quarter like they couldn't stop him but nobody else was giving him anything on his team plus the houts were uh Man, they was hitting on all cylinders. Oh, Joe, they weren't missing. They moving their basketball, everybody touching it. Didn't they have like 20-something-3, Joe? Here's the thing, because I've been hearing a lot of the rummlings about

Trey Young and when he came back, you know how the Hawks haven't been playing great. You can't game plan for the guys who's out there. Now, when Trey is not out there, it's hard to game playing for those guys. You know what I mean? Like, when Trey is out there, he's such a focus point of the offense that, you know, you put so much attention on him that, you know, I think it kind of creates a little havoc or whatnot throughout the team. But I think when Trey doesn't play, everybody just kind of plays freely.

Nobody's really getting double team, triple team. Jalen Johnson has been spectacular throughout this. Yeah, what the hell of he come from, Joe? He got hurt last year. He would have been an all-star last year, but he got hurt. This year, they got him in places on the court to where he's so effective, but he's the prototypical forward in today's game of basketball. I mean, he could do everything.

He can shoot the three. He rebound, block shots, play defense. He can playmate. He has no weakness. And you can tell, look, if you look at the month of, I think, December, you average a triple-double in this whole month of December. He's been bawling.

He's been balling. He had 34-19 on 15 or 22, three- or six from the three-point line, one-on-one from the free-throw line, 10 rebounds, six assists, two steals at a block. And he's falling, man. But Edman, you said, Joe, Edman had 30. He 10 of 18, 3 of 8 from 3, 7 of 8 from the free throw line.

He played 33 minutes. Man, listen. Can you imagine, Unk, if you was playing, if you was playing and y'all came out here and you're playing against the Falcons, you got, you know, you're out here doing your thing, but y'all getting blew out, and you got your whole family and friends out. Like, man, I totally. So I cut up on the falcon.

You cut up on the falcon? Yeah, we went out there 907. The devil went down to Joe. You're looking for a soda steel. I did the, I get them up on Joe for like five for a buckle, a buckle, a buckle three of a tub, 64 yards, second player of the game, third player of the game. You come home and show up and show out. Yeah, I had 20 tickets.

I had to spit that, but they got to see me show out. You imagine what Amman had to spin, bro? Like, it didn't hit, you know. Oh, yeah, for sure. It just, it just wasn't a game, man. The hawks was hitting on the all cylinders and, you know, I I know he probably was like, man, we got to come right here and get a win.

And it just didn't happen that way. They actually got embarrassed. I mean, the 24, but the game really wasn't that close. It wasn't. It wasn't that close, Joe, no. Hey, speaking of basketball, you know, I'm down here in the Bahamas, right? Yeah. I'm at the cigar bar at Bahamas, right?

I'm sitting there with the misses, sitting there smoking a cigar, and I'm looking down to my phone. And I see somebody sitting in front of me. I can see him out of my periphery. He'd say, what's up, Ocho? And, you know, I don't really look at her. I say, hey, how you doing? Happy New Year, sir.

He say, Ocho, this is John. Man, look up in goddamn John Starrs, man. Oh, is it? I stood up, man, so hype. What, what's up? Well, bring it in here, man. Boy, you're in Cambodia, y'all all over you're in Cambodia getting frequent fly, aren't you?

Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know. Five, yeah. That wasn't bringing in New Year right. Yeah, I'm going to bring it right. I'm going to bring it an upside down. But listen to me. Joe, the flight from Miami to the Bahamas is 18 minutes. That's it?

Yeah. I could, I, uh, I could have swam here. But, you know, and normally I normally fly spirit. But I jump on, I jump on the JetBlue flight, right? Yeah. I heard Jet Blue got some nice flights. Yeah. Hey, Uncle, it was $72.

Yeah, $72. So, you know, I jumped on it. And, you know, we're going to the parade tonight. You see what my shirt say? And you can see what that say, Un. Valley Boys? Valley Boy. You see what I say right there, Joe?

Yeah, yeah. The greatest. They're incomparable. The only one, the Valley Boy, the Junkaloo tonight. You don't start to two in the morning. So I'm excited. I'm happy. I'm sure I have some Junkaloo fans here in the chat.

You know, Valley, we bring it home today. They have Boxing Day parade. We came in second. And so we got the New Year's Day parade, which you can brag about for the next 11 months. Everybody got a hat on. I figured I put me a hat on too. What's your hat?

What's your hat say, uh? Nightcap. Yeah. Hey, hey, let me tell you something. When we get on, when we get off this, when we get off this show tonight? It's going down. Mm-hmm.

Well, that's what it's going to be nightcap. You hear me? That what happens? Hey, hey. Hey, matter of fact, put it back. I ain't going to, I'm a cap my night. Hey, I would, I, would, I, would, I, would, I, would, I, would, I, would,

I, would I, would I, but you know, old pull hustle of this. Now, hey, hey, hey, nobody. He knows the trouble I see. I thought you had something though. What happened? Hey, we supposed to have a double wedding in 2026. You're supposed to be on point.

Like a number two pistol. You know, I don't want to rehash you a thing, but your money, your boy, money jump funny. So, you know, you know it. The phone don't rain quite like it used to. The phone don't right. I did change my number, but it wasn't ringing like it's supposed. Hold on.

I'm going to tell you something. I'm going to tell you this is a good thing. This is the good thing. Now, if your phone not ringing because the money's not what it is, they're not the one for you. They're not the one. Okay. I'm glad you said that.

Glad you said that. This is what you need to understand. See, globally, not just here in the States, globally, I'm known for not spending no money. Okay, okay. I'm known for not being a T-R-I-C-K, you know? Okay. Like you, you know, I'm a 50-50 type of dude.

Okay, you're fitting, Fitty, Fitty, okay, I'm with you. Hey, Joe, I ain't got no problem pulling what really likes me for me. Right, right, right. You know, so there's somebody out there for you, on. They're from before me? Okay. Okay. Yeah, then you're going to find that, you're going to find that 20,

26 in January It ain't got nothing to do with no money Because you don't need no liability You're right, you're right on your And you need you a nice foundation Huh? Table. Okay.

Something you could bill on. Build on it. They go's you stack and you stack one on top of the other. Well, I was hoping to build I was hoping to build on something until the new year But you know, okay, I'll wait until I get into the new year I don't know what I'm saying? I was hoping.

I had a sturdy foundation upon me, you know what I'm saying? But you know, okay, I take your word for, no, Joe. Yeah, you could. Matter of fact, I got somebody for you. We, it ain't even about no money. Hey, no, hey, hey, hey, hey. Sometimes, Joe, even unc need direction. And we go.

Wait, sometimes a woman can be your GPS. Hey, don't, you ain't got to play Cuban with it, man. Just let it happen organically. Let it. Yeah, that doesn't have that. I'm gonna do that what I'm just saying you know I had me some seeds I got me some seeds I let them dry out I planted them in fertilizer I'm gonna see whatever grow I'm gonna see what's gonna grow I don't know what's gonna grow with you I planted a lot

of seeds though right mm-hmm well they out there busting them guns already yeah but uh I I get the frustration but I agree with Chris Finch look we understand that you frustrated, but your team, they cheer for you when things are going well. Yeah. They need you. They want to see you on the sideline, cheering for them. Yeah, I agree. I get your frustration.

I agree. You know what? And I'm sure it needed to be addressed, but I can also understand how man feels, too. Who do you do it? I can also understand. What happened, man? I don't know what you're doing. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah, yeah, man. We can see you, bro. Yeah, we can see you. Hey, you saw I cut out for a minute, huh? No, you didn't. I did. I seen it cut out for a few seconds. Hey, no, I'm saying,

Hey, my whole Zoom and everything went away. I guess in the hotel, and then it just came back. Oh. Okay, we're good. I'm back now. Hey, I'm feeling good tonight, but I don't even drink alcohol.

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that Trey would help, especially when you factor in what the team would be losing from players you would have to send back as matching salaries. He doesn't defend, he doesn't rebound, and guys hate playing with him. Damn, NBA inside of Marks down. reported there are the growing belief league-wide that the Hawks are more open to trading

trade away than they've ever been, but it doesn't seem like there's interest that's being met with a bidding war. Joe, you're in Atlanta, you know this team, you play with this team for a number of years. Can you see a scenario in which the Hawks do and do

indeed in fact trade trade young? I don't see, I don't see them trading them. I think that I can see them playing it out. I think me personally, yeah, we got guys on the squad when Trey's not playing,

we can win some games. But man, if you're talking about winning a playoff series or advancing, trying to get to a finals, just to even get close, you're going to need a game changer like Trey. I know we got Jalen Johnson,

but you're going to need two guys, man, y'all know in this game, bro, you need at least two or three guys to be able to get you over the hump. So I think with him spraying in his MCL, you know, early in this season, you know, obviously it's taking him a little while to kind of get back in red form.

I think offensively he's been playing pretty great. The win is just hasn't been there when he's been playing as of late. But if you ask me, I don't think they should trade him right now. I think they got to fine tune or what they have. The East isn't that tough. It is a few teams that's pretty good, but I think the Hawks still have a pretty good chance. You have to be clicking at the right time, man. You got to hope when March and April come around, you know, you're playing high-level basketball.

You know, the worst thing that can happen, Joe, and you know this firsthand, Ocho, is that getting hurt and the team get an opportunity to look at other guys. If Jalen Johnson, because Trey's going to demand the ball, going to command the ball. If Jalen Johnson this, are we going to see Nikiel Alexander Walker do what he does?

So now him being removed, Joe, other guys got an opportunity. Jalen Johnson is going to be an all-star. They're like, uh, uh, and he's six, seven, six eight. You, it's hard to win with a six foot to, unless you're Steph Curry, who's transcended, Isaiah, but more times than not, you've got to be a big guard. You got to be Kobe. You got to be Michael Jordan.

If great as Alan Albertson was, he couldn't get them over. You got to be a big guard. He's not. I don't know if he's six foot. so and the thing is like they said well he doesn't rebound he doesn't play defense and we're seeing that happen to Luca Luca six seven but it's like his feet nailed to the floor yeah so why he might light you up on what happens see the problem is is that when Luca has an off night his guy is never going to have an off night because he can always get to the ball get to the rim on Luca

same thing with tray tray is so small and he doesn't play defense he's not a pesky, you know, sometimes guys are small joke, they're pesky defenders. Like Caruso. You're right. And, yeah, Caruso like 6'5. He is?

Yeah. Why he looks so small on TV? Because everybody on 6, 8, 6.9, 6'5 foot. Hey, but it goes back, it goes back to what I was saying, Uncle Ocho. When Tray's on the floor, you know, he's game playing for.

He's in the scowron report. People are going to how to go at. him when he's not in the lineup it's it's hard of the game playing for the Atlanta Hawks because you really don't know who's going to beat you outside of jalen Johnson yeah he's going to do his thing but outside of him you really don't know who's going to beat him so they have a multitude of dudes who's stepping up man and just playing high-level basketball at this point right so yeah it's tough it's unfortunate man uh man hey joe i don't i don't like the part what they say and players don't want to play

with him. Where they come up with that? Where they get that from? I don't know, man. I don't know what they get it from. But they be trying to go, say. In matter of fact, excuse me for a minute, happy New Year, y'all. Let me go get me a kiss from my baby. But, uh, yeah, I don't know, I don't know. I don't know what they're going to do, man. Uh, what? Do they're talking about he's out of you, you see, they got no regard. They got no regard for my stuff. That happy new year, chat, happy new year. Happy New Year, man, every new year. We got all this stuff in my drink.

See what I'm saying, Joe? They don't cut down. Look at all this. Hey, y'all going to clean all this issue up to you. 2026, baby. Huh? A matter of fact, hey, we got a star 2026 off the right way. You know, you're going to start it out?

I got one for you. Let me know, let me know, I'm going to wait for, to be ready. Chad, y'all ready? Look at that. Y'all have got all stuff in my drink. Hey, hey, you can drink the confetti? That ain't bad? Let me know when you're ready, huh? I'm ready.

Hey, Joe. What do you call two Mexicans since we're talking basketball? What do you call two Mexicans playing basketball together? Two Mexicans playing basketball together. Yeah, them boy, I'm talking about them boys that they're hooping, too. I don't know what you got from? What'd you call them, Bojo? One-on-one.

Man, I'm going to give me a drink. Man, what's wrong with you, man? Oh, what? Hey, Joe, I got about, I got about three more in the chamber, Joe. I got about three more in the chamber. Oh, man. Hey, how long are you going to be out there in Bahamas, bro? Oh, I go back.

I go back. I'm on a one o'clock flight tomorrow. You know, I come out of year for junker new only. That's it. Good, beautiful out of all. Joe, you got to come out of here, Joe. What is it? Junk of New, it's like a festival.

So similar to, like, you know, carnival, like that, like that. but it's it's it's huge huge you know huge behemian culture that they have on boxing day during christmas they're at christmas and they have it for new years so that the parade started two o'clock at night hey you ever been uh you've been to that carabana in toronto nah it's nice though i heard i heard about it yeah i heard about it it's like that and listen i ain't been in the while with your like some years like almost a decade but Boy, listen. Man, Ocho.

But, hey, hey, you doing the right thing. You know, you're with the misses, you know, hanging out and having a good time. Oh, so, oh, so it's for Singapore. I ain't saying all that. I ain't saying all that. I'm just saying, I'm just saying.

Yeah, it ain't for me. Just the way, the way you're explaining it is letting me know it's like Houston. I don't belong. Yeah, I don't belong there. So you got to. Hold on, hold on. You don't mess with age time?

like that? Yeah, no, but I don't do no A-stown? Hell, no. Oh, no, sir. I would not, I would not go to Houston unless it's work-related. Oh, no, Joe.

Boy, you've been to Houston? You know? Yeah, well, what you mean? No, I want no part of that. No, sir. Everywhere you look, everywhere you go, the mall gas station,

you know, you go to a little lounge, the cigar bar. I mean, everywhere. There's too much pressure and temptation. Ain't, ain't, no. Night, man, child, please. Ain't got time for that. Hold on, I thought you,

you and, you were, I thought we all were going to Houston this summer, man. I got some stuff playing in Houston. Oh, I don't know. Ash, Ash, no, ask no the cities. I didn't, I didn't know Houston was on it.

Because when I mentioned it, the unc, he was like, he don't want no part of it, too. I say, well, he'd say, well, if you don't want no part of it? It's still early. It's still early. It's too soon right now.

You know what I mean? by when June hit I can see y'all right now boy y'all gonna be ready to roll I already know it hey you know you know how the horses at the Kentucky Derby they got the blanets on so they get on the street straight ahead but we gotta fly to Houston I'm gonna have I'm I'm gonna have a pair of them on shit I might drive I don't even want to be in there for hey boy they out there ain't uh man listen man who oh Lord he had uh he had uh We had a young Houston play on last week. That might have been, no, yeah, I think it was last year, maybe this week.

Did we, uh, Jay Leno? Yeah, we had Jay Leno. A, Joe, I mean, Joe, I had to ask him, what? Well, you play there. But how do you, I just, you know, how do you do it? How do you stay focused, you know? Because, I mean, I, I, I, you got, you got to have a little self-control, a little self-control. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, sound good.

Yeah, it sounds good, Joe. It sounds good when you say. way to be a Joe if you have you an addict you have a drinking problem you can't go to the bar I'm just going to hang out with some friends eventually you're going to take a drink if you got a gambling problem you can't go to the casino right right how you're going to go to the single hey hey man hey I'm just going to see I'm just cheering Joe on at the blackjack table sooner or later I'm going to go in my pocket and put some money now hey I want to get some of this action too well you got to think about it uh you know to get your better context and

get your better perspective if you're addict and you're a drinker right and and you got to stay out the bar where the whole goddamn play all of houston is the bar that's what i'm saying can you imagine oh jo the combination roll and this that babe well listen so joe boy you're gonna that start a pack joe yeah you know how you alleviate the problem joe you just don't go there but i'm saying but what they got business out there for yeah business oh i'm gonna have i'm gonna have my i'm a blinder zone I'm gonna have my blinders on my baby with me, my baby on my hip.

I'm good. Focus. Yeah. Yeah. Man, yeah, I ain't never seen nothing like it on you. I ain't never seen nothing like a joke. I grew up on a farm. So I don't seen a lot of different animals.

I was in 4-H, the county fair. I ain't never seen no issue like that. No, man. That ain't different down there. He said, what? Hey. God dang. Y'all still get confetti in my ish?

You can drink the confetti. Ain't nothing wrong with that. Man, y'all will clean this issue up because the cleaning people ain't coming till Friday. Y'all not leaving this ish on the floor. Got it all, oh, man, look at this, man. Man, this is a mess.

It's a celebration, man. Man, look at all this mess. Joe, look at all this mess they got in the flow. You got a vacuum, huh? They got a vacuum. Okay.

I ain't going to even tell the way it is. They got to, I'm going upstairs. You're good. That doesn't made the mess. Look at the table, man. That doesn't make the mess all on the table, man. Come on, man. Hey, we ain't seen it.

Where the dogs at, man? Sleep. Hey, go get Titus. Man, Titus up. Tiddle's up. Tiddle's go to bed at seven o'clock. Tide's be like, tired of get up, he, tired of get me up at like 7.30.

Yeah. Y'all go for that. I mean, he's sleep by 20 hours today. I mean, he might sleep probably about 22 hours today. He all went up by like two hours. That's like a life. That's all he does. He going to while, take him on his long walk in the morning.

Yeah. He come back, he chill. He don't eat, but once a day, he just chill, lay down, go to sleep. He'd be sleeping. Then, like, as he eat, around four o'clock. Yeah. Shortly after that, he ready to go to bed.

He's ready to go place, buddy? He started walking upstairs. Yeah. But yeah, man. Oh, Lord, have mercy. Houston, Houston. Hey, don't even think about it. I mean, we got such a law fan base in Atlanta.

We got a loyal fan base in Atlanta. We got a law fan base in Houston and Philly and Baltimore, NYC, Chicago. But Houston, Lord, have mercy. Charlotte? But you know, Ocho, you know, Ocho, you know, Fab be looking up, fam been looking good lately. They've been looking real good lately.

Right. You know, we, what were, 16? YouTube. Oh, we were 16 and 17 on YouTube. Nightcap was 16. Yeah. Shea was 17. Uh-huh.

Yeah, we got to do a meet and greet. You know, we got to get our meeting. Yeah. Oh, my God. Get our meeting greet up. Yeah. Okay. But everybody come.

They'd be coupled up. Yeah. Okay. We might have to go there a little early, Ocho. You know what I'm saying? Look at the check out the venue. Yeah. Yeah.

You know how to perform, they go do a sound check. Yeah. We might have to go see our voice is carrying the venue. So we might need to get a day early, help them set up. Or make it two days. Mm-hmm. All I'm saying is, then people like to see you all down that, man. That's all I'm saying.

said. Ain't, ain't no. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I want to see them too. Hey, listen, listen, you can look at the menu how you want to. You ain't got to order nothing. Yeah, ooh. Joe, but sometimes you be forgot.

You forgot they got, you know, they got chicken on here. You know what? I want that chicken, too. I got the steak. And you know what? Let me get that loaded baked potato. Like it. What's up? It's Cam Jordan. I'm back with season three of your favorite podcast,

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We're good, we good, though. Yeah. Draybaud wants Adam Silver to find a way to put LeBron in the All-Star game. I know a lot of people like, oh, man, he should be an all-star. Shut up. Yes, he should. He's been in the face of the NBA for 20 years. Figured out.

And the first fan vote, Lamarad is ninth in voting in the West. You know, he missed the first month of the season. Yeah. We'll see. What is the next vote? Hey, hold up, though. When they implement them rules to where you have to play, what, 65? game.

He can't, he, he, he, he, he, he can't play 65. He can't, uh, he close. He can't, he might not be eligible to win any awards, uh, all NBA, uh, MVP things like that. See, Yoke going to run into that problem and see it, now you look at the rule that see how I say it, but no, but y'all was, y'all was loafing. Y'all was low managing and missing all those games. Now somebody that's legitimately injured is going to miss out on the MVP because of the rule when y'all made you messed it up yeah yeah huh January 7th so they got a new uh uh

january 7th which is a wednesday a week from yeah a week from wednesday yeah week from today today is wednesday you and you on the west coast i don't know why you try to talk about you like you on the east coast you're right here on the west it is nine 12 West Coast time. Luca is the leading vote getter. Nicola Yolkich is second in the west. Steph Curry is third. Shea Gilgist is fourth.

Victor Wimbi Yami, Ant-Man. Wow. The Portland guys in front of LeBron and Katie. I do think LeBron. The second vote, I think LeBron will probably be in the top five. I'm thinking. And in the east is Yonis, Tyrese, Jalen Brumson, K. Cunningham, Donovan Mitchell, Jailon Brown,

Carl Anthony Tiles, Jalen Johnson, Pascal C. Alcomb, Michael Porter, Jr. They round out the top 10. I don't think Brian, I'm going to be honest with you. I don't think Brown really cared about playing an awesome game. If y'all just want me to be 100. I think he wants to do whatever he can for the Lakers to make a nice playoff run. Yeah.

Not with that defense. They ain't making nothing. Well, I mean, they probably got to make a few changes on, but I'm sure he'd much rather go deep into the playoffs. versus I don't think he really cares about playing an all-star game. But, you know, from a fan's perspective, I can understand to see why, you know, people would want to see him in the All-Star game.

He's done so much for the game, man. He's been, I mean, he's been unbelievable. Well, good luck to the guy. I mean, look, he's been 21 straight times, 21 times starting. So good luck to somebody breaking that record. Wemby got hurt tonight. We'll see the extent of that injury.

Nicola Yokic is injured. He's going to miss. They say they'll re-evaluate him in a month. We'll see how that plays out. So he could rise. He could easily rise up the rankings and we'll see how that goes. Probably if this was his last year, if he told Adam Silver this was his last year,

oh, he's going to be an all-star game. It'd be just like the DeWay situation. Oh, yeah, for sure. so that's where we are on that uh i i don't look he's averaging what's he averaging now what he's average about 19 i think he's about i think he's about 19 20 i think he's about like 22 uh i think he about like 20 point 3 okay man listen it for this to be his what 21st season 23rd he's going to turn 41 that's a Yep. He turned 41 yesterday.

That's impressive, bro. That's impressive. Very. And if he was somewhere where he had the ball in his hands, oh, he'd average 24, 25 again. But he's off the ball now. So he doesn't have the ball as much as Luca. He doesn't have the ball because he can play off the ball.

Now, he's not his best. It's not his strong suit. Yeah. But Luca can't play out the ball. Luca got to have the ball in his hand in order to be effective. And I think. But I think they. Instead of just sticking LeBron in the corner,

I think he and Lucas should play more picky role. Sticking LeBron in the corner, that ain't, that ain't what he could. I think what happened when he came back, because, you know, he missed the start of the season, and Luca and AR was so hot. It was hot as fish, Gris, and start to see it. He didn't want to mess that up. So that's why he came out.

Correct. You can see he had the one game where he didn't score 10 points, but for the most part, he came out as a facilitator. He was just trying to keep everything copostatic. I'm going to keep letting y'all be the superstar, that y'all been this whole season and i'm gonna just fit in with the guys i enjoy watching that part but i think what has happened is it got him out of rhythm you know he's a rhythm of timing guys so if i'm out here facilitated he is absolutely if i'm out of facilitating for three

straight quarters then when the four quarter get here it's kind of you know it's a little hard for me to kind of get into my bad you know what i mean and i think that's kind of what he's dealt with just kind of start the season anyway when he first came back because he was facilitating so much he wasn't in no rhythm offensively I agree. I agree. So it's going to be interesting. The only way he'll get in, he'll get a special invite through Adam Silver. I don't know if he'll be, because it's the top, they just take the top five guys now. So it might be five.

So right now, as it says, it'll be Luca, Nicola, Nicola, Steph Curry, Shee Gilgis, and Victor William, Yama. That would be your starter. And in the East, it'd be Yonels, Tyrese, Max, Jalen Brunson, K. Cunningham and Donald Mcnail. So one team would have three guards and two bigs and the other team would have one big

and four guards. Yeah, it'll be. So it would be Yonis, Tyrese, and Jalen, Bruns and Cunningham, and Donaldman Mitchell against Luca. But remember this year, Ocho, and Joe, they split it up. Yeah.

So it's going to be three divided up. And like the the European, the world, take on the American. So I don't know how this thing will go, but it's not going to be a typical East West All-Star game, which I think they should probably go back and

start doing a typical East West All-Star game. Yeah. Following the Lakers lost to the Pistons yesterday, LeBron was asked, what advice would he give an 18-year-old self? It's a lot. A lot of advice I would give him. I would just say keep the main thing, the main thing.

Work hard. There's no substitute for hard work. I think hard work and dedication if you want to be great going to pay off keep the blinders on as much as you as much as they praise you even uh it's even triple quadruple people trying to bring you down which is absolutely true and they want to tear you down every single day protect your family protect your mental space it's a lot more but that just goes to have fun and enjoy the ride because you never know when it comes to an end it goes fast very fast he's the most he's the most love player he's the most talked about

but he's also the most vilified and he understands that he understands that um no matter what he does LeBron could have won 10 championships and he's never going to be loved like Jordan he was never going to be loved like Kobe

it is what it is dead man ain't nothing you can do about that just play your best uh I don't know if you actually came into the game to be loved you came to be the best you could possibly be and then you were willing to let the chips fall where you may but jordan just got such a head start and he had the shoes he had all those commercials yeah colby the same thing he was 17 year old and he grew up they watched a kid become a man become a father become a husband right before their eyes yeah maybe

if he could have accomplished everything he accomplished in cleveland Maybe. Because all the Jordan accolades came from Chicago. All the Kobe accolades came from the Lakers. LeBron, some came from Cleveland, some came from Miami, some came from Cleveland again, some came from the Lakers. You're saying that's why some people give him a little knock because he traveled around.

Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yep. But he's the. But if he'd have a Jerry Krauss or if he had a Jerry West that could put a team together, other he wouldn't have left but and plus now they've made ring culture and it used to be like that oh Joe yeah Joe so guys were willing to stay but now you called me a bum if I

ain't got no ring I'm going to get that ring and then what y'all see and then y'all poop on me when I get a ring like Kevin the rent carry the rent says I do not want to be the best player without a ring because that was a title y'all bestowed uh Carl Malone that's the title y'all bestowed upon Charles Barclay. I don't want that moniker. And then they beat him up. They said he didn't have a ring.

He's going to get a ray, but you took the cheap way out. Can't win. He can't win for losing. Can't win. Kobe had Jerry West. Michael Jordan had Jerry Krauss. So,

LeBron says if I'd had somebody as competent to those guys, that are in the Hall of Fame. Jerry West is in the Hall of Fame as a player and a general manager. Well, I'll probably would stay. I would stay. Probably would stay.

I could have got somebody to come to Cleveland. It's hard to get somebody come to Cleveland. That's not New York. That's not Miami. That's not L.A. Yonis is finding out that the hard way. Remember Yonis say, oh, I don't want to go join nobody.

And then the thing that I don't like about Yonis, he's talking about that's between my agent. The agent works at the behest of the player. You see how he's trying to absorb himself Joe yeah but my agent whatever conversation my agent is having that's the conversation he's having really honest you really expect us to believe that that agent is not working at the behest of you everybody don't want that LeBron took LeBron did what he did so everybody else could run Kevin the rank could run

the Golden State everybody else could do what they did he took all those arrows he was the first big, big name to move. Now, it ain't nothing, no. Ring coach. Because you tell me I'm a bum if I ain't got no ring. I could average 30. I'm a first team all-emba selection for seven, eight, nine years, Joe. I've gone to the All-Star game 12, 13 times.

But I'm a bum because I ain't got no ring. Some guy that just happened to be on a team, he's the fourth guy on a team. He starts, but he's the fourth guy. He got a ring. and you said he better than me. Yeah. That's how I go, man. That's how it is, bro.

Good news, birds, fans. Victor Wiminyama lived up the court in the fourth quarter of tonight's 134-1-32 win over the next after his left knee buckled as he tried to secure a rebound under the basket. Wimby said afterward he suffered a hyper-extension and the initial test did not reveal any other issues. He said he would not have more testing done. He said he would have more testing

done on Thursday. I'm very confident. I was this close to coming back in the game. They had to hold me back. It was just one of a hyper extension, so it should be minimal. We've got to do everything tomorrow to check that everything's okay. When we added, I expect to be back next game. He did. Ocho, Joe, he's always, Ocho, Joe, because he's so tall, he's going to have issues. You're going to have issues. I mean, he's 7-4. His quads are only so big.

They're going to only be able to take those shock absorbers. It's only going to be able to take so much pressure off of his joints. You know, hyper-extension, it ain't that bad. I know when you do hyper-sting you need, I hate that spaghetti feeling.

It feels like it's not together and you're really cautious. You know, but give him a few days, maybe a week or so. Yeah, it'd be. Man, listen. Ocho, Ocho, the man, seven, five, man, all legs. Like, all legs.

I think this is something that you definitely got to wear about. I mean, this ain't no normal person like you at 6-1, 6-2. Hey, Joe, I'm 6-3, Joe. Don't do that. All right. You say, my bad. You're 6-3? Yeah, okay, more bad, my bad.

So, you know, your bounce back is a lot different for somebody who's 7-5. You feel them bad? so yeah i think the spurs need to take you know precautionary with this man uh don't rush big fella because see what what's been happening our stars in the NBA bro getting hurt and it's killing the game yeah it's killing our game bro we you know we we we want to see the best out there competing on a night night to night basis and you know when your best players get hurt look yoke's going to be out for a month i love watching yokes play out there killing them boy boy can't jump over a phone book you hear me man i'm talking about

He's the MVP right now, no. He's the MVP, but he's not going to be able to win it because he's not going to be able to make the game the quote of the game. That's what I'm saying. It's hurting. It's killing the game, bro. It's killing the game. I hate that for you because it didn't even look like nothing really happened to him.

He got somebody stepped on me like he hyper-extended as me. He dodged the bullet for sure. He dodged the bullet for sure. But I'm glad to see Wimby's okay. Everything checks a little like he's going to check out and he's going to be fine. He's going to be able to go the next game or at least a six-hicle.

Oh, Joe, Joe Burrow discussed the mindset when facing Miles Garrett and Wheat 18 as Garrett closed in on the NFL sack record. Burrow said, I'm certainly not going to go to overcompensate either way. I'm not going to go out of my way to not let him get the record. and I'm not going to go out of my way to let him get the record. Either way, I'm going to play football.

There's going to be a situation that a sack is the best of the bad outcome of that play. And maybe I take one. There's going to be other situations that I'm about to get sacked, and I need to throw it away in that situation. I love his mindset. I like it too, I like it too. But obviously the person that he needs to be asking that question to is the officer line. That's what should have been asked to.

Obviously, reporters don't want to go there. probably don't want to ask that to them, but listen, I was, I was very hesitant in saying I don't want Miles Garrett to get the sack record, you know, against the Bengals. But the fact that I'm going to be at the game and I asked him for the jersey that he gets a sack record with, I'm going to allow him to get one sack. I'm going to allow him to get one sack, but now I'll be in the building, Joe, to be able to collect that jersey I asked for so you know what

congratulations you do realize Hall of Fame are going to be on the hand too often right I tell you what I tell you what there's one thing is it listen Miles Garrett could do two things he can get the sack record on Sunday and he can give that jersey to the Hall of Fame at the already

promised me or he can get that sack record and hand the jersey over to me like I asked like he promised me first so two things can happen you get a hand it to me and go ahead and live your life after making history

or you can get your ass one. I think he's going to take the second one. I think he's going to be. Yeah, I would hate a Joe, a Joe, I would hate to have to beat the fuck up out of Miles Garrett but choosing to get that damn jersey

after I already asked for it. I would hate, I would hate to have to do that. That's my point. Ocho, that's going down in history, man. That may get that sacrament. You think you're going to get that jersey? Yeah, Joe, I asked for it, Joe. Man, I asked for it.

I'm telling you, Joe, he can. I think you get two sacks on Sunday. I said one. We'll give him one. We're giving one. We're going to give him two. Hold on one. I think he gets two.

One breaks the record or two breaks it. Yeah. Oh, two breaks it. Okay, okay, okay, okay. One breaks it. He has 22. One to give him 23. The record is 22 and a half.

Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Hey, Joe, and he can give him another jersey. Let them put that in there. But give me the original one. I want to frame it. I want to put it up in my game room.

No, they're going to take that one because that's the jersey. That's the jersey going to have the dirt on it. That's the jersey going to have the stains on it. Don't worry about it. They can put some most, they can put some stains on the other one. It ain't, it ain't nothing to go outside and rub that, rub that goddamn, well, that got to be trouble. They got some people, people got some time.

Hold on, so he can't keep his jersey for himself? He can't. if he won't to, but the Hall of Fame is going to request it. And it's an honor to have that jersey in the Hall of Fame. That's why a lot of the Tom Brick, Tom stuff is in the hall. And it's an honor that, it's an honor for Ocho to have a jersey, too. Nah, because it's going to probably end up in somebody auctioned high with Ocho game. That ain't going to happen because there's going to be no reason for me.

Ocho ain't going to be here forever. Okay. What's Ocho? What's Ocho like, like my kids? what what they do what I do with it how I cherish it that don't mean they're gonna cherish it the same way man oh my God hey I know listen I love Miles Gary man Miles he promised me and one thing one thing one thing about a man

all we have is our word it promised me that jersey and you choose not to give it to me two things gonna happen karma and I'm gonna beat your ass Well, I'm sure he's like, if I get that sack record, whatever karma comes with that, I mean, because he's so young and he's so far ahead of the pace, yeah, there's a chance he can get Bruce's record of 200, sack, 200 and a half sacks or 202, whatever that case may be.

They're the chance. Miles Garrett, I mean, he's got a, how many sacks he's got, Miles got 120? He's way ahead of the pace. I mean, he's blistering. Yeah. Now, the problem is the sack didn't become official stat until 1982. They were sack of the quarterback at the 30s, 40, and 50.

He got 124 and a half. He's not even 10 years in the league. What is the 8th year? He's nine years in the league. So he's averaging 12 and a half, 13 sacks a season. man that's crazy man get my what did brucey played 20 19 Bruce he came in 85

Bruce he came in in 85 and he left in 0, I think he left in 0,03 so Bruce prayed 19 man get my eyes geared up out of now man Reggie played I think Reggie played like 16 to 17 he got 1.98 and a half Joe where you wanted to go Joe man come oh Joe I want to

And don't say Dallas. Why not? See, yeah. Can he get out to the quarterback? Yeah, yeah, he can. Hell yeah. He's one of the best to do it. What are the best to ever do it?

You need to get in my body of that, man, let him go play some meaningful football now. I like the way it sound. I think he might be two or three years away from that, Joe. You think so? I don't think Cleveland just ready. I don't think Cleveland's ready to give him up just yet. How many years he in?

on that deal. I know he got a big deal. How many years he signed a four-year deal but he had two years left, so he got another five years on it. Yeah. I know one thing, Joe. He might not see them years. He won't give me that goddamn jersey, what? I tell you that.

I'll tell you can cancel that, brother. Hey, hey, there's going to be some things canceled. He's going to be me. But the problem is, Joe, is that they got a lot of, you know,

You're going to be a lot of suitors. Now, the Cowboys do have the capital because they got two first rounders next year and they got another two first rounds the year after. Yeah. So they got the arsenal to go get him. Yeah. If Cleveland's willing to let him go.

And this would be the good time to let him go on if the Cleveland Browns are serious about building something because they can get the most value for him right now. Not later. You can get the most value, the most pieces form if you're serious about building and changing the culture over there in Cleveland. Why?

Because you didn't win with him. You didn't win with him. So, you know what you need. You know what you need. He can really help him, team, why? Yeah, big time. Man, I'm looking at this. Michael Irby took his belt off. He was not crazy.

He were whooping the trash can. Yeah, man, that dude. Hey, Joe, why didn't you go to the U.M.? Why ain't you go to the University of Miami? What, Joe? Hey, with that joke of grades. Joe, he couldn't get in prison with them grades. I ain't had no grades to go there, Joe.

Joe, I couldn't even get in the goddamn fair to you, Joe. Joe, he couldn't get in prison with them grades. Hey, Joe, hey, Joe, one high school, boy, I was in knucklehead, Joe. And I'm not talking about a knucklehead, like, you know, in the street or just, Joe, I wasn't going to class. They're coming to school when you want to, leaving when you want to. I don't really know.

Hey, Joe, I went to school on Miami Beach, Joe. Miami Beach in High. I was on South Beach for high school. That's why my grandma ain't want me in the inner city where I grew up going to school with them boys. It would have been even worse. So if I ain't do right over there, you know, with them folk, imagine me in the city with all my home boys.

Joe, I was bad, Joe. If you get, Chad, if you get an opportunity to party with one guy, in your lifetime, let it be Mike. If you get an opportunity to party with any athlete, any superstar, any podcast, any person, let it be Mike. They go on like that, huh? Let it be Mike.

He'd be having fun. Let it be Mike. Mike is the greatest. Mike is the greatest. One day, I'm going to tell y'all the story how Mike and I stole Gary Sheffield with a bagel. I started to break that up during the interview, Ocho.

Right. But Mike and I stole Gary Sheffield, Winnebago at the Super Bowl in Atlanta back in 99. I believe it at that. Woo! What a time. What a time. What a time.

I think he breaks the record, though, Ocho. You think he gets the record? You said he does get the record. Joe, you think he gets the record. the record. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I know, I know I'm sitting talking, you know, trying to support my team, but Miles Garrett is probably, he wasn't able to get it last week.

I'm not sure the Bengals would go away from doing what the Steelers did, where they were so worried about him getting the record. They weren't able to play their game offensively. Exactly. It took away from them offensively. Yeah, you're doing, I mean, you're running booze and you run and rollout, you got the guy chipping that they can't get in routes real quick. People were like, why, Gary Sheffield had to win a bagel.

Super Bowl I'm like Hey what I'm Sheriff How are you doing Mike I'm like Mike Yeah what I'm You know how Mike is

You know Mike animated What you doing shop I'm on whatever you want Let's just say Sheffield with Yeah Hey We took the Winnebago

I called a cab to come get me the next morning. I couldn't drive to Winnebago. I couldn't try to win a bake-all home. Lord, have birthday. Boy, might go harder to pay, boy. Hey, that was a great time. But great time was had, chat.

Great time was had. Y'all know that. Dan Lannin continues his crusade this week against the current college football player schedule. There's clearly a better way. playoff games should be played every single weekend until you finish the season. The season needs to end January the 1st. We've given up some of our days to the NFL.

Saturday should be sacred for college football. Every Saturday through the month of December should belong to college football. In my opinion, Lanning also said earlier this week that he believes all games leading up to the night should be played at the higher seed stadium, effectively calling for the end of bowl games. Like we did, man, since the college football playoff, I would be honest, Joe, Ocho. Yeah. I don't even watch the ball games no more.

No. No, Ocho, we used to look forward to the bowl games meant something. The orange bowl, the sugar bowl, the peach bowl, the blue bonnet bowl, all these balls, they meant something. Ocho, man, don't nobody care because they ain't playing for nothing, but some headphones and a swag bag. Right. I'm being honest, Chad.

I ain't trying to be disrespectful. back with, congratulations to all the teams, excuse me, that made a bowl game. But now with the college football playoff, that's all people care about. Yeah, and if your team is not in the playoffs, the only people that are watching the bowl game are fans of that specific team.

I get you, I get you. I'm with you when you're right again. Yeah. I mean, you look at it in the game like, bro, I'm like, and this is what you happen. And so, and they're talking about what increase the 16. Ocho and Joe, if you're increasing 16, you might as well just do away with the ball game

because you ain't got a 42 people. The only people in the ball game watching now are family members. Right, right, right. Basically. I'm just, I don't know what college is going to do. Um, they got all this money. They got to do something. They got to do something, man.

because these bowl games and kids if you and the thing else Joe and Ocho if you're a college kid and you got a high grade on you are you really playing in the ball game that's not that's not going to lead to a national championship really? Absolutely not

especially you have an opportunity going into the draft nah you're not taking that chance or it depends on what the type of money you're making these professional athletes now these ain't just regular college students no more man these dudes make money

Absolutely. But I agree. They need to go ahead and get, because if you complete with the NFL, you're not going to win. Nobody that competes with the NFL, not NCAA, not NBA basketball. If you go look at the college game,

the NFL did three, four times the ratings that NBA did. Mm-hmm. Ain't no compete. And I get Charles Barkley and everybody saying, who won Christmas, though? With the NFL, it didn't even close. Okay.

Three to four to one. And I get, I get it. The NBA used to be, Christmas used to belong to the NBA. Yes. But not no more. Y'all know how the NFL, the NFL by that dollar. Was it? Because the thing is the same thing to NBA.

Everybody at home, Joe, ain't nobody working on Christmas. Uh-uh. For the most part, I mean, obviously you've got convenience stored in certain situations that people are open. But for the most part, people at home watching. Yeah. And if I say, hmm, I wonder if they'll watch us. Let me sprinkle a game here.

Oh, they really watched us to the 220 plus million. Let's add another one. Let's see if they watch. To the 220-something million. We'll add a third one. So if you think about, if you combine all the games that play basketball games that will play them, they might beat one NFL game. Yeah.

See, they started playing at 12 o'clock noon. Hey, and that all depends on the scheduling too And who's actually playing And think about it And look at the games that we had We had Dallas and the commanders And neither team going anywhere Mm-hmm

20-something million Then we got the Lions and the Vikes 27 million We got Kansas City with no Mahomes No starting corners 20-something million Yeah You got Luca

you got KD, you got LeBron. Five million. That's it? Damn. I mean, look at the game now. You got the Broncos in Kansas City. Kansas City ain't going nowhere. You got the Dallas Cowboys and Commandos,

not going anywhere. You got now, I mean, Detroit was struck with Minnesota, not going anywhere. Detroit was on life support. And the top, NBA game, Minnesota and Detroit

did four times the numbers. It ain't, NBA, y'all can complain all y'all want to. Charles, it ain't never going back. Then y'all here to stay. When the NFL see, they got Thursday game. Y'all might as well just a Saturday

games, if the Saturday, if the NFL pops up, say, let's see what the NFL playing. Now, we don't want no part of that. Y'all go ahead, y'all can have it. Y'all already know Sunday is a no-go. Yeah. Nothing should be, nothing should be. The only thing you should do on Sunday is go to church.

And everybody tried to get going to early service to get their ass home so they can catch the one o'clock game. At one o'clock game, yeah? That's the only thing you should do on Sunday is go to church. If you're talking about going to another sporting event, it's a wrap of the NFL zone. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

So I agree with Dan Land. This thing should be over because you don't really, you ain't really trying to go head to head with the NFL. Oh, Joe, it's time. The prize pick, Flea Faye, presented by prize picks. All right, we got Elijah Surratt more than point five or receiving touchdowns. I'm assuming he's from a,

Indiana, huh? He one of the better players. Ash wants me to go with it, so I'm going more. Hold on. He'll have at least a touchdown rushing over. This tomorrow's game? Yeah, Alabama, Indiana. Then we got Isaiah Horton, more than 38 yards receiving.

I'm going more. Nate Frazier. 66 yards rushing. He's from Indiana, too, isn't he? No, he's the Georgia's right now. Oh. Yeah, he'll get that. Yeah, Nate Fraser.

Yeah, yeah, he'll get that. He'll get that. I'm going more. And I'm going more. He's going, hey, because he gets to the goal line. They're handing the ball. So, yep, I'm going more. Hold on.

Who Georgia playing? Who Georgia played? Ole Miss. Ole Miss. Old Miss. The running revs? I mean, not the running, they're just the rebels.

Oh, Miss got something to prove. U and LB is the running revs. They're just the rebels against the Bulldogs. Oh, Miss, got something to prove. Shout out of New Jersey, he's on the show, too. Yeah. Oh, that's the guy, Ocho. You remember Nate Frazier, he joined the show.

He was level-headed from California. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I'm pulling for Nate. I like Nate. Come on, Bulldogs. I don't normally root for the Bulldogs,

but I'm rooting for the Bulldogs against Old Miss. $25 to win $150. Download the app today. Use Coach Shannon to get $50 in lineups after you play your first $5 lineup. That's $50 in lineups after you play your first $5 lineup. Prize picks. It's good to be right.

All right, chat, we're going to get you out on this. It's time for our final save of the evening. It's time for Q and A. Trill Brown, Happy New Year's to my favorite podcast, 2025 was hard, but watching this show made getting through it a little easier. Wish y'all nothing but the best. More money, more life, more blessing. You ain't telling me nothing, Trill. Everybody was real, real difficult. But you know what? As long as I woke up the next day, everything was going to be okay. That's how you got to do. Wake up the next morning. You got a chance to be successful.

Put one foot in front of the other. Come on there. Don't think about what is transpired, what you lost, what you missed, what could have been. Think about what can be. Ricky, happy New Year gang, ISO, how's your injury healing?

You're returning to the Big Three in 2026. You add an Ocho as a teammate. Now, he got to get ready for the podcast. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, boy. Hey, Joe, it's going down, Joe. Oh, it's going, hey, hey, uh, you heard, uh, Rashad McCants. He didn't, he wrote a little rap this in me, man. Did it?

Yeah, man. No, I, I, I, I, I, I, he wrote a rap this and me and sent it to my, it sent it to my Twitter today. Like, hold up. Hey, what's, what's up? I need to get in the studio. Hey. Hey. Hey, I got to answer to ask you a question.

I'm, I'm rehabbing on the daily. I'm getting back right. Yeah, yeah, by, by time. get here, I'll be back 100% by the time March get here. Oh, yeah, the Summer Olympics, we got the Summer Olympics. You know, the Summer Olympics this year, I think that, were they in London? Where are they? What was the Winter Olympics?

Summer Olympics is going to be in L.A. and 28. We got the Summer Olympics. Hey, the first. That's Summer Olympics. That's some Olympics. I'm going to, that's some Olympics that's in L.A. on the 20, the 20, you said the year 28? 28, yeah. I want to play in that three-on-three,

the three-on-three, that's an Olympic sport now. Yeah. Yeah, I'm trying to get on that team, Ocho, you feel me? Yeah, yeah, I'm trying to be there for that. I'll be, I'll be up there. Well, all I know is pivot and 520. Hey, a pivot in 520 don't stand, no chance. Zero, Zilch.

Oh, hey, in it, in it. And Cam, you in, Cam, unless you come up with somebody else, you can't even get it, Because you don't got three guys. You don't got three players. And we don't make a combination for no two on two, nothing. At all. At all.

But, but P. Mack, you already know what time it is. Exactly? Yes, sir. I mean, we're watching everybody over there. Darius Butler. Hey, hey, Nathaniel.

Absolutely. Nothing. J. Hawke. Whoever. Who else out there? Gill, Gil. Gil? Yeah, Gil's a really, y'all can get it, too.

Y'all gonna get it. Hey, matter of fact. Hey, Gilly, you and Wallo, y'all better find another partner. They ain't got nobody. They're getting washed and everything, too. Matter of fact, don't Kenya Martin owe me some cigars. He don't. You want to own you to them, uh, Daniel Mark.

Matter of fact, you know what, I'm going to beat his ass. That's two people. Miles Garrett, Debo. That's three people. We already know, Joe and Jada. Y'all fit this one out. Y'all got the rap. Y'all got the mics.

Y'all got that, stay there. Yeah, they don't want no smoke. Y'all don't stay where y'all are. But everybody else, if you got three men, you got a podcast, you got three. Going down. Yeah, going down. Florida man, is it true that nightcap is going back on tour and we're returning to Houston? Florida, man, that is our goal.

We are going back on tour. We absolutely are going back on tour. And there's a great chance. There's a better than 85, 90, 95% chance. We're going to go back to Houston. Aaron Oath, if Ruben Baines Jr. is somehow still on the board when the Bengals pick, they got to take him.

I don't know if he's going to be on the board when they pick. Hey, that boy's disruptive, man. They're going to be on the board. I don't see him, hey, these Scouts are about, oh, his arms ain't long enough. Man, it's the scouts say some of the dumbest stuff. Turn on the goddamn film.

Thank you. What does this look like when you turn on the film? That's the mistake that they made with Aaron Donald. But he ain't big enough. He only weigh 270 pounds. He's five, eleven, he's six foot, okay. And boy, defensive player of the year. I mean, excuse me,

defensive rookie of the year, three times defensive player of the year, eight time first team all pro, 10 provos for a guy that's not big enough, not tall enough, not fast enough. Now how dumb do y'all look? Did you watch him at Pitt? If you watch him at Pitt,

he did the exact same thing for the Rams that he did at Pitt. Yep. He didn't do anything different. He could ask at Pitt. He could ask at the Rams. And that's what it is. Phil about the more.

Happy New Year's brother. Your show helped bring so much happiness and joy. Your living proof that we're never out just down. Here's to 2026 and success moving forward. God bless. Philip, thank you for your support. You're absolutely right. You're absolutely right.

Everybody. You either. in the storm, you're in the storm, or you're leaving the storm. And no matter how bad you think you got it, somebody got it worse than you. Pick your head up. Keep your head up. You can't see if you're going with it down.

And keep walking straight ahead. Big Mike, happy New Year's everyone. Oh, probation should be over now. We close, Big Mike. We close. No, no, it's over. It's over. We ain't got time for that.

Matter of fact, because of good behavior, they let you cut your ankle monitor off sooner. Yeah, we're good. Now, we're good to go. Okay. We're good to go. Thank you. Cota.

Can we get Ash and Joy and Camio appearance to bring in 26? Thanks for producing the best podcast on the internet. Can you tell us what it's like behind the scenes, trying to keep organized. That's the easy problem. Look, all we have is a rundown. Everything else is Ocho and I, we're off the cuff.

All we have is a rundown. Ocho don't know what I'm going to say. I have no idea what Ocho is going to say. You know, Ocho comes back with one line of, I come back with one line of Joe do what he does. We don't, hey, we have a rundown. That's as organized as we are. We need to have some sequence in which things are going to happen.

Right. Sean Montgomery, what's up, fellas? Why can't a receiver win the Heisman in college as the best player, but a receiver can't win the MVP in the NFL? That's a very good question. Very good. Very good question. I don't know, because it's just hard.

Because college, they said he's the best college player. That's what the highism signifies. but in the NFL the MVP signifies the most valuable player value that's the question value if a receiver how was how was Randy balls going to win the MVP with 23 touchdowns when Tom Brady threw 50 touchdowns you know that that's the problem yeah um Calvin when Megatron he had he broke the record because it's going to take, I think you might get a running back, but he's going to need

to break E.D.'s record and LaD. Damien Thomason record in the same season in order for him to be the quarterback. Because these quarterbacks now with the league, the way the quarterback has protected, the way the receiver they call the past interference, these quarterbacks go throw for 40, 50 touchdowns every year.

So it's going to take somebody, a running back, to break E.D.'s record and break LeD. Thomas's record. And I think that would be, I think that's going to be, then you have a no like, hold on, he broke Edie's record, a record that's been in place for 40 years.

Mm-hmm. So a record that's been in place for 40 years and break LaDainan Thomas a record, that guy, that running back will win the MVP. Quino, I'm usually listening to Spotify, but I can tune in live tonight. Love y'all, man. Keep doing y'all.

Bear down, baby. Bears look good. They got a chance to clinch. They still got a chance. They still got a chance for, they can't get the number one seed, can they? Because it would be Seattle or San Fran. Because San Fran beat them head to head

and Seattle has a better record right now. So they can't get the number one seed. So it's Seattle or the Rams. I mean, yeah, Seattle or the Rams, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Mr. International, Bill Parcell told Bill of Chake,

why are you starting meeting? without Lawrence Taylor. They're the perfect example. Didn't Lawrence tell y'all? He was driving around and said, man, why the stadium lights on? Oh, we got a game. I need to go.

He's going there and get two sacks. When you're the greatest, when you're the greatest, that's something? The man was late. The man was late for the flight. He flipped his keys to the ballet and said, I'll be back Sunday. Meet me here.

And the guy met him there with his car. Oh, man. The rules are different. Rules it different. Yeah. But listen, everybody ain't Lawrence Taylor. And that was, that was, that was, and a lot of the stuff that LT did back then, you can't get away with that. Now, there's too many cameras.

No. Like Jordan, like Jordan gambling in the casino, you can't do that stuff that Jordan did and everybody. And plus, reporters turned, it used to me when I first got to league, if the reporter saw you someone, Well, Joe, they turned out, they, that ain't got no to do with me. Right. Now? Everybody's story. Everybody's story.

Kaye Flarks attorney, bringing the new year with my family, my beautiful girlfriend, Sidney, and our son. I'm a Jets fan, and we do, we need to do what are some things we need to do to become a contender in 27, 28. Happy New Year, guys. You got to get a quarterback. You got to get a quarterback. Yeah. Without a quarterback, bro, you just.

Yeah, it ain't nothing you can do. And if you don't get one, you fooling yourself. Yeah. To my bottle of that, Joe, look at it. There you go. You got that looking at your system, right. He finished out tonight. He ain't fooling nobody.

But, but, but. What happened? 2027? No, no, no. Come on, man. Come on now. Man, we. week.

I'm bringing 2027. I'm telling you now. 2027, what is the New Year's Eve next year? It's on a Thursday. We're a day in. I'm telling you right now. I'm sure it up late.

Y'all start without me. Okay. It's on a Thursday. So we know we got a show on Thursday. Joe, Ocho, start without me. Man, we ain't but a few minutes in the 26 now. You can't. Hey, Joe.

Hey, he got, he got some. I already know. I know he's fooling me, Ocho. I ain't doing nothing I'm laying low but I bet you're 27 my own you know

I gotta do I gotta do right you know what I'm saying I want to you know he'll call me and say well Shannon you've been misbehaving how you good but once they

27 mm-hmm that ain't that ain't the way it works once you are probation you're off they don't they don't nah I'm all pro

but here at the fan Ocho I still got some time on my side on sentence. So I don't I don't want to have to serve the rest of it out. I don't know if you know how the criminal justice system work, Ocho.

Yeah, I didn't have been in there. I didn't have been in there. Oh, what, listen. And plus, my mama told me I need to behave. She told me I need to shave. She sent me a picture of a raise. Nah, no, no. Hey, hey, hey, hey, the song pepper

look good on you on keep the solid pepper bro yeah yeah everybody say that with the naked face man where are you gonna come on this side what's yeah what's up with the naked face where you're staying shit hey hey Joe hey Joe you know when I was going to

hey Joe you know when I were growing up they called me baby face Joe they called me baby face you know I don't look made I seen you somebody today you know they I saw him and they were like well god damn um Ocho but you look

you look much young in person I say yeah I'm I'm you know I'm 57 but I look young so yeah in person you look more refined I ain't never heard nobody describe you like that that was you know and I think that's because I keep such a I guess I guess I guess

I guess I guess yeah but I can grow I can grow something out like like Rick Ross you know I can like Freewayne No, I got, you know, they gave me, they gave me a 10-year probation. I'm on parole right now, Joe. Huh? Damn, 10 years?

Nah, baby. I would have told them 10-year probation. I'm, I see y'all soon. Hey, look, I thought in 26, man, we were going to get out here and have a little fun now. Yeah, I don't know. We are. Oh, we're going to be having fun, though, Joe. All right, Joe, we're going to be having fun.

All right, okay. but there ain't going to be nothing like compared to 27th 27 I'm in heaven philosophical truth and wisdom unfortunately so many learn sports in the ESPN era era because the real greatest quarterback of all time of John Elway he was Rogers and Peyton Manning one the thing that those guys in the 80s and 70s had to go through you saw those hits and you in this documentary Man, can you imagine they hit a quarterback like that now, Joe, Ocho? He'd be suspended for two, three, one or two games.

Damn. I was fortunate enough to come up in the early 90s. Man, it wasn't no defensive receiver. They didn't call no helmet, the helmet. They attacked the quarterback. They dropped their weight on the quarterback. I mean, you go back and look at Goose and what he did in Rich Gannon. he dropped 345 pounds on his shoulder

and separated his shoulder man you can't do that now you can't attack the quarterback like that now dumb y'all be saved them streets or the crib for the night new year's Eve yeah we we said I'm in I'm getting ready to head out I mean the area where I'm going to be at is nice and safe going to go ahead Joe I'm going to enjoy this

go to enjoy this parade you know it's all family and friends and fun you know what don't you I might join you next year I might be at a junker new come on that's what I'm talking about he just talking hey hey um I might be a old junk or new hey aunt they've been asking about you

everywhere I go well where Shannon where Shannon I say man Shannon way on the other side of the world right now but I'm gonna tell him you say hello everybody they hey we have a huge following I hear we do we do huge. We could we might be able to, we might be able to, we could do

a show out here and fill an arena now. Hmm. Yeah. Interesting. Yeah. Listen, I can talk to the, I can talk to the P. I'm gonna be, you know, I'll talk, you know what? When I take my vacation in June,

just five, three weeks. Talk to me. I'm gonna cut my phone off. I ain't gonna even talk to to Ash. Where are you going to go? Huh? Where are you going to go? I can't tell you. Well, hey, you need to let somebody know where you're at,

so if anything happened, we know where to find you. I'm going to let a few people know. Okay, just let go. You're going to have a hostess with you. Yeah. Woo! Me? On somebody balcony.

I'm not saying, with kids, if y'all, see somebody with a ski back with a, uh, uh, shite still on the balcony. Yeah. It's me. Okay. Okay. Oh, it's midnight of Houston. Oh, yeah, yeah. No, I'm stared out of Houston. I ain't never going to be in Houston on New Year. Even if I, if I were to live in Houston, I got the lead.

That joke. Yeah. Hey. No, sir. Nick Valentin. Sleep on us again. remember what you said? Who I slept on? Architect Nice TV

question. Is Caleb Down's the best safety prospect since Sean Taylor? Respect Eric Barry. No, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. He's good. He's good. He's good. He's the best right now in this era. But not, not like, not like Sean Taylor.

No, he said since. Sean Taylor. Oh, since, oh, absolutely. Yeah. Absolutely. You know who I really, you know who I really like as a safety that he reminded me of Ed Reed when he's in Alabama? Who? Beaker. Xavier McKinney.

Oh. His range. His ball hawking skills. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He reminded you an Ed, eh. Now, Sean Taylor had range, but not like Ed, but Sean was a thumpel. Yeah, he, I'm got to hit. But you six, three, two, 25. You're supposed to be able to

Yeah. You're supposed to be able to bump. Yeah. But Ed Reed, I mean, when you start talking to Ed Reed, it's like playing out, it's like saying outside linebackers look like LT. Ah, I'm, uh, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I get real, I get real scary. They can't do that.

I get, eh, they can't do that. Nick Mars, uh, don't catch this live often, but thank you guys for getting me through a rough 2025 here's the 2026 the year ocho pays unc i shall hope so but you know nick it was it was rough for a lot of people a lot of people went through worse things than what i went through or maybe what you went through uh there's a lot of death there's a lot of destruction um but you know what i still believe in the high power and um everything's gonna work out for everybody so

just stay prayed up uh make sure you tell people that you love that you love them on a regular basis because you ain't promised tomorrow now nobody is promised tomorrow ain't it written down nowhere will you get to see tomorrow yes sir but Nick thanks for your support and thanks for watching DT Jeremiah Smith number one overall in 2027 who you would have been number one overall the only two receivers I can remember going no more and overall I think Irvin Frye with number one overall in 84 and Keishaw with number one overall in 96

Man, this boy got some talent, man. Oh, he's unbelievable. He good, man. But it's going to be hard to be number one overall, Ocho, especially with quarterback, because Archmane is coming out next year. And he's gotten better and better. I'm telling you, Ocho. All right.

Because, you know, because here's the thing, Ocho. A receiver plays what? A dependent position. If I give you the best receiver and I give you the fifth, best quarterback in the NFL, which one you take it? I give you the best receiver in all NFL, but I'm going to give you the fifth, I'll tell you what, I give you the seventh best quarterback.

Which one you take it? Forget, forget Stafford, forget Lamar, forget Joe Burrell, forget Patrick Mahomes, I'm going to give you the sixth, I'm going to take the sixth best, seventh best quarterback and give you the best receiver. Which one you take it? You can have, you can have Chase, you can have Jetta, you can have Pooker,

you can have Jackson and Jigba, you could have Pickens, you can have CD, which one you won't. Give me the sixth best quarterback and I give you the best receiver and I'll beat your ass. Oh, that's tough. It ain't tough. That's tough. That's why they make the big bucks. So who we think? Okay, so we say Joe Burrell, no order.

I'm going to say top five. So we say Joe Burrow, we say Lamar, we say Mahomes, we say Josh Allen. Yeah. We say Drake May. We say Matthew Stafford. Mm-hmm. Okay, now we start getting into. Dack Prescott's.

We started getting into who else? Jalen Hertz. Jaila Hertz, Sam Darnel, C.J. Strouds. Yeah. You're not taking, you're not taking any of them. You're not taking no DB. I mean, you're not taking no wide receiver over any of them.

Mm-hmm. And you damn sure ain't taking no wire receiver over the five guys that I mentioned, the six guys that I mentioned. No. Absolutely not. But also, everybody your name is now proven and showing what they can do.

do at the highest level. So if I give you, if I give you Chase, I give you Jetta, I give you Smith and Jigba, I give you Pooker, they're proven. You taking them over any of those quarterbacks I named? No. No. No.

Oh, Justin Herbert. Oh, you're taking, you're taking a wide receiver over Herbert? You might well throw Trevor Lawrence in the pitcher too then. Okay, there you go. Do you guys think Ruben Bain should go number one overall draft pick? He's playing like it. He's playing unbelievable. He definitely helped this start tonight.

He played incredible tonight. And we thought he was a top, a top interior lineman. He can rush inside. He can rush outside, speed the power. He's quicker than you think. I like him. I can see a scenario he's a top 10 pick. I say top five.

And the fact that he's top five, they already talked about him going top number, one, Unk, but what he did tonight and to the team he did it against. Yep. He did it against on the biggest stage against Ohio State where the world is watching. So I like it. I agree.

King Gray, 48, Uncle Ocho, game 7-on-7, Ravens-All-Time versus Bengals all-time. You both included who win? Also, number 82, the greatest tight-in in Ravens history. 7-0-7? Man, we beat the brakes off them.

Of who? y'all who gonna stop me man look here we got air back there safety so they're gonna have Chris McAllister wait hold on when he was there he didn't stop me so again who won't stop me okay Chris McAllister uh so they got Chris McAllister uh probably Marlon Humphreys and Ray maybe beat the brakes off y'all all them names you just name ain't none of them was able to stop me so I'm I'm going to ask you one more time, who won't stop me? And then they got to get to with everybody else.

Oh, Joe. What is this? Well, you know who you're talking to over here? What? Yeah, y'all didn't stop me. And y'all caught me. And y'all caught me. I was on the back end.

Y'all didn't catch me in my prime. Hold on. We got somebody to stop you. We ain't worried about that. But, man, y'all ain't got no stop signs and traffic signs to stop me. All right. All right. Don't forget I was a two-week player.

That's okay. Oh, I, boy. Hey, hey, Joe, hey, Joe, hey, Joe, I would have locked on the ass up, man. Man, man, man, I'm talking about I would have been right in this face, Joe. Hey, Joe, I would have been right in his face just like this. Talking to him, where you going? Bob, where you go on? Hey, he got no bricks in the back pockets doing.

Oh, Joe, Joe, the first play, I ain't even trying to get open. I'm running dead over the top of it. Hey, Joe, you know what I'm gonna do? I'm gonna do him like they do. You know how to matter, do the bull? And I ain't got time to play with you. That ain't my game. Oh, you open the gate?

Hey, my grandma would say, boy, open the door, flies come in your house. I appreciate you open the gate. You see what happened when DBs open the gate? What happened, Ocho? You go on. You're out, hey, but I, listen. Smell to the odor it.

I know, I know it's a run play. I know it's a run play, so I know what you do. And I can tell if it's a pass or not. Oh, I would do the same way. And we got Jam. Oh, and we got Jamal and we got Lamar. Bro, we're going to tear y'all up. It ain't happening.

It ain't happening. Man, look here, our best, our best 11 defensive players against y'all best 11 offensive players, our best 11 offensive players, our best 11 defensive players, ain't no chance. Well, you would have been on the island streamed by playing with me now. True and emphasis 73 said Ohio State didn't face any real competition during the regular season except Texas, Texas in week one. Look at what happened to them versus Indiana and tonight.

Well, I can't disagree with you right now. Earl C. Ryan Day had no business losing that game. Defense couldn't stop when they needed the offense didn't do enough. Offense couldn't score. Ryan Day will have questions again. Well, guess what? The whole year, I think Brian Hartline called.

the plays. I don't know why you would change it up tonight, Ocho. Yeah. If he called plays all year long, he'd been had the job. Now you invite you invite questions on yourself that you wouldn't even have to answer had you let him call the place. Oh well.

Jason, go canes, baby. Everyone doubted this team, but we turn it up tonight. Oh, and it's great to be a Miami hurricane. Yeah. you got a to the victor goes to spoils vans all the hosts at what point does the desire to be the best become toxic obsession it is healthy to chase perfection where do we draw the line see lazy people say it's obsession we call it dedication yeah somebody that has a nice body oh they obsess they're selfish well just because you're not motivated, take your ass to the gym and be dismal enough to eat what you're supposed to eat.

Now I'm obsessed. No, you're just lazy. Because I want to be the best and you chose to be okay. No, I don't look at it like that. Mediocre? Yes. Some people demand the perfection of themselves. Look, I'm reaching for the stars,

but if I land on the moon, I'm pretty damn high. Uh, Trey Bell, this is going to turn Jeremiah Smith into a monster next season. He's already a monster. He can only do so much he had seven for a buck fifty seven in the tub. What more could he have done? Hell, he couldn't get in the ball from his back. Dr. Frankie L. Bellamy, hey, fam, happy new year. Thank you for the laughs and the energy.

They've carried me more than you know. See y'all in San Francisco. Love and appreciate y'all. Thank you, Doc. I appreciate that. Because guess what? You won't be cheering for your team in San Francisco. I bet that.

All right, all right, all right. All right. Doc, I appreciate it. Doc was probably, of the first five people, she probably was one of the first five people that started following Nightcap. And she's been to every show. She was in Atlanta.

She showed up in Vegas. She showed up in Atlanta. She showed up in New Orleans. She is one of our most loyal, most faithful, most trusted. Doc, you've been a great. been incredible. Your husband has been incredible.

We look forward to seeing you in turn, friend. Kylie, one, two, three, four, the only bowl game I like, not college football playoffs is the Pop-Tart Bowl. Oh, somebody, who had the Pop-Tarts on the grill yesterday?

Somebody had Pop-Tarts on the grill. I like Pop-Tarts. Blueberry. What do you do? You throw them in the, you're a toaster. I get them right out of the pot. You don't warm them up? Most of the time, no.

Only like 10% of the time. Me and the dogs be eating them. They love them. Remedy 944. You can only take one random in their prime. Sterling, Robert Brooks, Ocho, T.J., who you got? Yeah, where you going, Christmas Claus? Oh.

You? You. They're going to hit the streets. What do you mean where I'm going? Man, you and you in Cambodia, everybody have a good on time huh the parade started two o'clock what time is it there now it's 115 oh I'm taking I'm taking silver I'm taking Sterling I'm taking Sterling I'm taking Sterling huh you take a

yeah you need a I will put Robert Brooks in the TJ together That concludes this episode of Nightcap. Guys, you want to thank you. Wait, hold on. Huh? I got one layer of joke. What you got? You ready?

Yeah. Hey, Joe. And I'll chat. What do you call a moose with no name? A moose with no name. A moose with no name. Cameltoe What the fuck?

What you're on? He said the moves with no name. I'm just saying. Damn Joe Joe! It's 2026, baby. A moose with no name. Damn.

It's a mobile. Anonymous. Anonymous. Okay, he got one. He got one. He probably got one. I know he's gonna say. He got one.

He probably got one. I'm trying to figure out what your head at, though. Go, let's back up, let's reverse. Put this in reverse. How did Joe come up and talk about Cambertoe? I don't know, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.

Yeah, y'all hear that? Hey, ever since we talked about Houston, Joe been on one since. Hey, listen, listen. Oh, Joe will be having for wild stuff flying around, so I just try to beat him to the punch on that. Yeah, I cheated, I cheated. I got, I asked AI.

Oh, man. Oh, man. Oh, you don't mess it up, man. Okay, now, hey, you cheated. Oh, you can't do that. Hey, hey, uh, hold on, Joe. Hey, Joe. All right, give us another one.

Hey, don't you give me another one. Hey, I'm gonna get this one. I got one last night. You tried to get me, Ocho. Yeah, hey, hey, Joe. And, uh, what did the sushi say to the B? The sushi say to the B. Yeah.

No, Joe, you got there? I ain't got enough for this. The sushi said to the beat, wasabi. Thank you guys for joining tonight. Thank you for spending your New Year's Eve with us. We cannot thank you enough. I'm your favorite aunt, and that is my partner and co-host Liberty City's own.

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