Club Shay Shay - Nightcap - Hour 2: How Michael Jordan ruined the Dunk Contest, Pippen's No Bull Tour, & why SGA is the MVP

Episode Date: February 22, 2024

Shannon Sharpe and Gilbert Arenas explain why Michael Jordan ruined the dunk contest and discuss if they are interested in what Scottie Pippen has to say on his "No Bull" tour critizing how he was portrayed in "The Last Dance" 0:00 Thoughts on Dunk contest12:00 Vince Carter says NBA offered 1 mil for guys to commit to dunk contest15:45 Blazer viewership has went down 60% this season - How important is star power?20:15 Former Bulls going on tour to discuss Last Dance26:00 What made MJ so special31:00 Unc on impact of Katt interview despite doing plenty of others1:00:00 - Much more Nightcap #Club #VolumeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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You get three dribbles max. What can the league do to fix the All-Star game? Forget the dunk contest. Because the guys, the name guys, Gil, when you and I was growing up, I mean, the top guys, Dr. J you and I was growing up, I mean, the top guys, Dr. J, Michael Jordan, Dominique Wilkins, you know, you had Kenny Skywalker, you had the

guys, Larry Nance, they actually participated. Darryl Griffith, they called him Dr. Duncanstein. So guys, I mean, with the exception of Matt McClung and Jalen Brown, Jalen Brown is the biggest name guy that we've had in the game in a long time. But for the most part, Gil, I mean, I don't know these guys.

Listen, I said it. I said what happened was this. When the NBA was introduced in the dunk contest. They use their stars. Yes. To introduce it to the world, right? And I said, what happened was, Stephen A want to say LeBron messed it up. I want to say Michael Jordan and Dominique messed it up.

They messed it up in this aspect. Who they were when they entered that contest. They were mega stars. Jordan was a mega brand when he was entering the dunk contest. So, you know what I mean? Three times, he averaged 35, he averaged 37. He leading the league in scoring three. He was already a big entity.

So him coming into that with that name, you'd already called him Jordan. He'd already gotten a nickname. So once he left and you said, all right, everybody let's enter, you started looking around like, yeah, they're coming in they're hot flies, but they don't have

they don't have the name that's coming into that. When Kobe came in, average six views, average seven points a game. He's a rookie, right? When Kobe was Kobe being Bryant, he didn't enter the dunk contest. When Vince Sanity became

Vince Sanity in 2002, that wasn't 2000 Vince, right? So when we did have the Dunkers, they didn't have that Jordan brand behind it. So Jordan gave us Dominique Wilkins. You're talking, they were creatures.

They were NBA elites when they entered. We got privileged to that. And that's why we can pick. That's why we say the same names every year. When we think about the dunk contest, we go all the way back, 90 down, because those were star players in that dunk contest. Now it's one, two-year players. But the thing is, Gil, what I think is,

is that when they started having these no-name, and guys started missing 15 dunks before they got one. And people are like, God, how many chances is he going to get? I mean, look, you get two chances. You don't get in the hoop the first two times? Okay, now your time up. Gil, guys will take it six. I mean, I'm being unreal when I say 15.

But guys will take it five, six opportunities. You can't hold people's interest that long. Yeah. And so when you look at Gordon and Levine, that was amazing. I can make the case, those were the best Don Kess contests ever.

Better than Jordan and Dominique because what they were doing with the creativity and the elevation that they were getting. So clearly the dunk contest was alive and well. And guess what? LeBron James was still playing. You see,

here's the problem that I have because LeBron James has always been in an unattainable situation. Well, he got 23 because of Michael Jordan. Well, he did the pot of toss because of Michael Jordan. Well, he got 23 because of Michael Jordan. Well, he did the power toss because of Michael Jordan. Well, he doesn't do the dunk contest. Why didn't he do it? He did everything he had like Michael Jordan.

You see, he's an unwin. I don't look at LeBron as, I look at LeBron as an in-game power dunker. LeBron doesn't have the creativity of a Mack McClung or Aaron Gordon or Zach Levine or Jason Richardson. That's not what he is.

And that's the problem with us as fans. And that's why I said Michael Jordan ruined it. He ruined it because he was the perfect person.

You're talking about the dude with the 48-inch vertical, the dude that was a star, he was a scorer, he was creative in the air. So you had the 10 out of 10 guy enter the dunk contest.

There's only been a few of those in this game, right? In this game. And Vince was the next one who had all the tools. He was the guy that was supposed to be in there three, four times. He kept it going, and everybody's trying to beat him, right? We didn't have it. We had it one and done, right? LeBron James, what he clicked was the high,

the power, the creativity. No, I can tell you the three dunks that he only had, right? He was going to pull it back real hard, not from the free throw line, right? Which Jordan going to have him on that, but he's going to pull it to the side, right? Other than that, he was going to go in, do the rock. Rock the baby.

Rock the baby. And then he was going to go in, do the rock. Rock the baby. Rock the baby. And then he was going to do the old one hand up, Statue of Liberty, swing it, bring it back. That was it. Other than that,

unless you wanted him to dunk on somebody. Right. Right. All right. Look, Shaq, you're going to come out there and you're going to try

to block my shit for real. Right? And I'm going to try to dunk on you. Ooh. Other than that, there's some guys who are creative dunkers and there's some guys who are creative dunkers

and there's some guys who dunk. Jalen Brown, you're just a dunk on somebody. You're not a creative dunker. Because he's trying to do the deep brown, but you can't do the deep brown once you land. You know, deep brown covered his eyes. He was in the air.

And you can't put... Hold on. So I'm like, hold on. I'm like, wait. I'm looking at this. I said, hold on. Aaron Gordon dunked over Taco Fall. Mack McClellan dunked over Shaq. Hell, Blake Griffin dunked over Kia. He dunked over... One guy

dunked over a KIA. The other guy dunked over a KAI. I'm like, what the hell? I mean, man, look. And then, you know, we had Kyle the other night. over a K-A-I. I'm like, what the hell? I mean, man, look. And then, you know, we had Kyle the other night. He's been unbelievable. But anybody that's ever seen Kyle in person, you and I both know he's not 5'9".

Okay, he's not 5'9", and then you put him in a chair. He even said himself, I thought he was going to stand me up in the chair. So you get a guy that's vertically challenged and you put him in a chair. So if you put him in a chair, he's half the height that he was when he was

standing. I'm like, what the hell is this? That was the point, huh? Because you can tell he didn't prep for this. He was just out there having fun, right? He was out there having fun, but he could have just dunked over

Tatum's son. Just dunk over Dukes. Because at this point, brother, what you've been doing, it ain't it yet. He could have dribbled the ball. He could have jumped over Kyle. Hell, I jumped over two guys back in 87 and they're sitting in chairs. So that wasn't spectacular about the dunk that he did and they gave him and they gave him great

scores for that i'm like no so you should have punished him for that to let him know bro you can't dunk over a guy his size in a chair and have us reward you for quality dunk because that's not what it was look matt mcclung deserved to be a two-time, but the fact of the matter is we got to go get a guy from the G League. And he earned it. Gil, he earned it again. He earned it. I mean, the guy cleared Shaq.

You can say what you want to say. He cleared Shaq. My thing is this, man. My thing is this, man. The dunk contest, today's kids can do things that we can't believe can be done, right? When J.O. Smith came into the dunk contest, right, and he wrapped it around the back of his body and dunked it, everybody's like, what the hell was that? These young kids got that. Now, the question is,

why wasn't the Thompson twins in it? Why wasn't Jalen Green in it, right? Why wasn't, like, you got these young first-year kids that got these 45, six-inch verticals that do sit at home thinking of this stuff, right? The days of the 90 of this stuff, right? The days of the 90s is gone, right? If you want

your impact of your dunk contest, you need to spit out the money that's going to impact it because right now, most of these guys, what they did to Gordon, everybody watches, right? Like, ah, yeah.

Right? I don't want to be a part of something like that. Right? So, you need to start with the refs. I mean, the judges. The judges should be the Steph Curry, the Dames, the Lucas, guys who don't dunk. The reason for

that is they are not jaded by their ability or what they did or what they've seen. They're judging in real time. Right? So someone like Luka can sit there and say, well, shit, I can't do that. That's a 50. Right? You

have real fair judging because these guys can't do that. You guys have Dr. J in there. Dr. J's jaded by his jumping ability. He's not judging it. Dominique, every windmill he see, he ain't bringing down like I did. I brought that thing.

I really windmilled it. I ain't do no disc right here. I brought that thing all the way down. I got a 49. God damn it, you're getting a 47. Right? So that's what ends up happening too. So you have to clean that up.

Then from there is when you go to, when you're getting ready for the dunk contest, grab out that big old computer in the book and say, okay, this kid, 48. Okay, he's in it. He's in it. Hey, hey, oh, hey, hey, the guy that's sitting on the end of your bench, Spurs,

you let him know he in the dunk contest, and I don't care what kind of vacation he's going on. Right? And Stephen A. Smith said something about a million dollars. You want to go out and give everybody a million dollars, these outside. How about this? Give the NBA players a million dollars.

I guarantee they'll jump over the goddamn backboard. Well, Vince said it was him, T-Mac, LeBron, and somebody else, but they pulled out. So the NBA had a million dollars. Now, I don't know if it was a million dollars for everybody or a million dollars to the winner,

but I think he said it might have been him. Chad, help me out. I think it was him. I think it was T-Mac, Vince Carter, Kobe, and LeBron was supposed to be in the dunk contest. They said that because I said that this should have been a dunk contest. I think

BC said it. So it should have been, but this would have been about 2004, 2003, but that is the case now. Right? This is not an image thing. You're like the 80s.

Those guys was forced because of the image. Jordan had a, he had an interest. He had a personal interest. His shoes, his brand. That was the number one thing that sold his shoes. Because once he took off from the line, he could fly. Now look, Dr. J and Connie Hawkins, they were the first guys. David, the Skywalker. David

Thompson was the first Skywalker. Then Kenny Walker, a lady, got that name. But David Thompson was the first guy. They called him the Skywalker. But when Michael Jordan took her from that free throw line and he held it out like this, it was over. It was over.

Nobody looked for that shoe. So now, now, so he's entering for a force, for something that impact his life. Here, they don't have that. So you're going to have to entice them with something like it was for Jordan. You're going to have to entice them with something like it was for Jordan. You're going to have to give these guys something.

The money done got so great now, Gil. I'm surprised Jalen Brown did. Jalen Brown got a contract for $307 million. What the hell they can offer me? A million? Hey, Gil, the day when you go over to me, you better offer me with the tag which you're gonna offer me you better offer me with the baddest ig girl two weeks two weeks straight with the baddest ig girl that's all

you know you know the all-star game winner gets the game it's how much i played 50 grand second play the losing team 35 grand man that's great money. You know what we got, the winners for the Pro Bowl? 10 grand. You know what the losers got? Five grand. And we going to Hawaii. You take five people to Hawaii, put them up in a hotel room that's 250 a night, and feed them for a week and see how much that cost you.

But y'all doing that at the end of the season. This is All-Star weekend when we don't want to be there. You telling me to play hard? Listen, if I make $100,000, $200,000 a game, you better jump your price up. You better jump your price up. I made $200,000. Jump your price up.

I got you, boss. Vince Carter said the NBA offered him, LeBron, Kobe, Tracy McGrady, a million each to do the gun contest. BC said, and I quote, I know for a fact a couple of years back that the NBA tried this tactic as far as upping the ante a little bit. A million dollars they threw around to some names

like Bron, Kobe, T-Mac, T-Mac. My name was thrown in there, of course, and a few other people for a million dollars. But you couldn't get a commitment from everyone to do it. And even I was like, eh, I'll wait to see what the field does. There it goes. I want to see.

See, and there is a competitiveness in it. If LeBron says yeah, Vince says yeah. If Kobe says yeah, Vince and Bron says yeah. You want to see what he does, right? See, so when people say it's not competitive,

when it comes to your individual, see, this is the thing that people don't understand. When it comes to the individual himself, that means I don't have nobody else with me. Oh, let's party. We want to see who the best dunker in? Let's party. You want to see who the best dunker in let's party you want to see who

the best three-point shooter is let's party see if i got to rely on nine other players and a coach to come out here and perform there becomes an issue right right but if you say let's dunk let me see who's entering all right jay wrench injured kobe i'm in let's let's put the jumping ability to the test. That's why I said, go one-on-one. One-on-one in the NBA, you can have them pay. Say there's a million dollars for the winner, but you got to pay to enter. Watch how many players enter that damn thing. And guess what?

And guess what? I want to make you have a million dollars. You know, like the World Series of Poker, when they get to the final two, they bring the money and sit it on the table. There you go. That's what y'all playing for. Hey, you're going to have players

who ain't even part of it sitting there doing this. Yeah, baby. Baby. You put the money out there. Everybody looking, too. There's not everybody looking because this is

a matter of your pride yourself. That's what it is. Two on two, three on three. Like I will do this. Let's say three on three, right? Everybody who makes the all-star, the 24 players who make the all-star, right? Three on

three. Three on three. You got eight teams of threes, right? Four on the West, four on the East. Four players on each side. You pick your team to compete. Then we have bracket play, right? Go to seven. The winner wins this.

There's no joking around now. Right. Because now, if I'm Bron, I'm sitting here like, all right, my first pick. Now I'm thinking about who's going to go home. Right. All right, give me Book. Right. Now you got players really building their rosters.

Now we playing. Right. We're playing West against West. Then we go against the East. Right. Now you're three on three. You have different bracket plays. You have a more competitive game.

And you still get the same 24 All-Stars. I like it. I know three on three, you're talking about a whole different game because you're not just going to sit there and shoot a half-court shot. We're going to seven, bro. Hell no. Every position matters. And you think about it now, let's say LeBron,

LeBron, he got Cat with him, and Cat shot two threes, and then he sit there doing one of these again. Like, nah, man. Nah, bro, you got Ant-Man guarding you. Get your ass in the post. That's what would end up happening. More pride would be taken if they did it that way. The five on five, let it go.

You ain't getting nothing out of it no more. The post-game era in Portland is looking rough. The Blazers have lost 60% of their local viewership, indicating a significant drop in their fan base. The next biggest drop is Brooklyn, whose local viewership is down 38%. 60%. What does that say about the importance

of stars? They're everything. Everything. But we knew Portland was going to take a hit. The guy everybody came to see was Dame. So we know you were going to lose some

fans because of the trade. You were going to lose some fans because of the trade. You were going to lose some fans because of the record. So one, you have to build the team back up. You have to build the excitement back up. We get that. Brooklyn, you guys in New York, you will hope that just the city itself would have retained its fans. Gil, you had KD, James Harden, and Kyrie. Now, all of those guys are gone.

What about, they're going, they reverted back to what the Brooklyn Nets used to be. They reverted back to New Jersey? Yes. I mean, I'm not trying to be crass or anything, but it's the fact. It's a star-driven league. And the superstars is what get butts in the seat and get eyeballs on the tube. And Brooklyn doesn't have one. The Portland Trailblazers doesn't have one.

The Portland Trailblazers had Bill Walton. Foot injuries, he left. They had Brandon Roy, injuries. He gone away. LaMarcus Aldridge, the next player, he goes to San Antonio. And now, dang, the last guy they have, they're all, we got a guy that injuries, and then he doesn't want to leave. We got a guy.

And he's like, no, I'm gone. So Portland's like, well, damn. and he's like, no, I'm gone. So Portland's like, well, damn. The stars that we've had either were forced to retire early or left. And like you said, build back up.

That's a lot easier said than done because you know what Brooklyn was before they got Kevin Durant? Do you know what Portland was? Yeah, they won a few games because LaMarcus Aldridge was a very good player. Yeah. But once they got Dane, and then it seemed like he, I mean, I think they could have been really good if he had stayed with Dane.

But he wanted to go, you know, they sold him a dream. It's going to be your team, yada, yada, yada. But he wanted to go. You know, they sold him a dream. It's going to be your team. Yada, yada, yada. He goes to San Antonio. And it would work. I mean, Kawhi was great. But Kawhi hurt that foot against Golden State. And then the next year, he had that quad injury.

They didn't believe he was injured as much as he said he was. And it is just... It's gone. Yeah. When you're in a small market, you're going to have to have a really big name or really good, solid team. Yes. You know, there's just some teams that can't sustain downsizes like this. That is surprising.

And, you know, Portland and Brooklyn have to really look at themselves and look at what they're doing because you have a team in Detroit that lost 29 straight games and they in front of you. Oh, yeah. You know what I mean? They're in front of you because Detroit supports their team. Right. When they were playing Toronto that day, that was a sold-out crowd, and they on 29-game losing streak. Right? But, so...

And Portland, you don't have anything, you don't have anything but basketball. You ain't got no hockey team. You ain't got no baseball team. I know Seattle is up there, but that's not in Portland. So what the problem is, they should be in there.

Lower your tickets, goddammit. Hey, hey, right now, you got WNBA prices. How about that? Hey, I'll argue. It's a promise of them is. They should be in there. Lower your tickets, God damn it. Hey, hey, right now you got WNBA prices. How about that? Hey, it's a promise of a pair. Hey, you got Nike headquarters.

Hey, promise of a pair of Nikes. Everybody that comes by to get to the game, you get a pair of Nikes. Air Force Ones or some Air Maxes or something.

Hey, hey, hey, treat it like Wendy's. Hey, hey, tonight is a 4-4-4 special. Come and get your 4-4-4. 4 tickets. Yeah. Hey, hey, hey, treat it like Wendy's. Hey, hey, tonight is a 4-4-4 special. Come and get your 4-4-4.

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go on a tour addressing The Last Dance. Pippen and Grant have been vocal about their portrayal in the ESPN Doctor series. Horace Grant was quick to call Jordan a liar for claiming he leaked information to Sam Smith to Jordan Rules, while Scottie went on to say how upset he was at his portrayal and even released a memoir titled Unguarded, where he shares stories about dealing with Michael Jordan.

The tour is set to begin February 23rd in Tasmania and will be making stops in Melbourne and Sydney. Tasmania and will be making stops in Melbourne and Sydney. Grant said, well, as you know, I speak my mind and it's going to be no BS tour. Believe me, I'll tell you this, the X Factor

in the first three and the second three, I would have kicked Dennis Robbins. You know what? Come out, get the tickets. You'll hear a lot. Now, when the last dance aired, Horace Grant reached out to me. We're both from Georgia.

He's from middle Georgia. I'm from south Georgia. And he reached out to me because he wanted to clear some things up. And he said, there's some other stuff. And I said, well, I said, you know, I called up and said, oh, I don't really feel like sharing this.

But we was in a pandemic at that time, Gil. I said, oh, I don't feel comfortable sharing this. But once we get out of the pandemic, I would love to have you on to share this, what you're telling me. But I don't feel comfortable because people will say, well, Sheldon, you hate Jordan. And he probably didn't even say that.

So they're going to need to hear that come out your mouth. And so I'm interested to hear what's going to come out of his mouth. Is it going to be similar to what he shared with me? Because that's what I'm interested to see. And so that's why I like, and I was like, I like, you know, but once, you know, last dance kind of went away, you know, we kind of moved on and like, OK, let's just let it go. Blah, blah, blah. But I'm going to listen to what they got to say, because, look. In a lot of people's eyes, Michael Jordan can do no wrong. He's gone. And I tell people all the time, the first time I met him, I felt like I was meeting and I hate to be blasphemous or sacrilegious, but he seemed like he was elevated. He seemed like he had a light, a shining light behind him and he was sitting on clouds. That's I mean, and you hear a lot of people say the exact same

thing when they meet Michael Jordan for the very first time and their NBA players, great NBA players, and they feel like this. But obviously he had final say on whatever was going to be in the docuseries. And so, but I knew early on, but I found out, like I said, you didn't know. I thought he and Scottie were closer

and then come to find out, they're not close at all. Not close, but that was not close at all. Not close. I put that was that close. They far apart like like Sydney and San Francisco. That's how they far apart they all give.

Be honest. I don't want to hear none of this shit. You don't want to hear none? I don't want to hear none of it. The reason is and I'm going to speak for the new school. I'm going to speak for the new school.

I'm going to speak for the Kevin Durant and all of them. I don't want to hear the shit about no champion complaining about being a champion. You stole our own championships and do whatever it takes to win a championship. Six-time champ. Three-time champ. three-time champ, three-time champ. Don't give two shits about what Michael Jordan did

to help you motherfuckers become a champion. Because when people come at you, you do this right here, whatever it took, stand on it. I don't want you to complain about how brutal he did.

He told me this. You a champion, right? I thought that's all I had to say. Nah, he got me portrayed. He got me portrayed like a B-I-T-C-H. He got people thinking I'm a garden tool. I can't have that. I can't have that deal.

I can't have it. I got to clear my name. You a six-time garden tool, God damn it. I want my restitution. Listen. Listen. That's a problem. that's a problem. It's a conflict.

It kind of makes it look bad. You done told us championships or not. You're laughing at Charles Barkley. You're laughing at Patrick. You win. And then you tell us that you didn't like it.

He was a bad guy. He was a bad boss. What? No. No, you don't like to. Y'all don't like it? He was a bad guy? He was a bad boss? What? No. No, you don't like to. Y'all don't like being champions? Say it ain't so. When I said, hey, I'd rather take 300 million than seven rings,

y'all over here like, you're crazy. Hey, they're going around talking about no bull. They got them rings and they don't seem too happy now. Yeah. I mean, look, everybody wasn't going to be Michael Jordan. And even if you had a great career, Magic doesn't have to take a backseat. Magic is a three-time MVP. He got five rings, finals MVP three times.

But everybody wasn't going to be Jordan. There's only one Michael Jordan. I don't care who, how great. Somebody might score 100,000 points in their career. They are never going to be Michael Jordan because of that shoe. That shoe is what said, yeah, he was great. And I don't know what

Sheldon said. No, understand what I'm saying. Prior to that, people wasn't wearing sneakers with tuxedos. People wasn't wearing sneakers with suits. People wasn't wearing sneakers to formal events. He made it a style.

It was a fashion. The sneaker became a fashion statement. His shoe became a fashion statement. And now you have everybody else adding the shoe you get the Louis Vuitton you get the Gucci you get the Prada you get the G-Bone shit you get all of those but that guy

did that you know what Michael Jordan is everybody understanding now especially everybody on nightcap and club shape J Michael Jordan is to basketball. What at Williams did on your channel? Yes.

Right. He did it in a style, clever charisma, funny, gave you the drama. He gave you such a big overall package that the field, they can't keep up. They're not going to keep up because one,

him, who he is, how he moves is a whole different entity. So when you come here, you can give us the drama, but are you going to give us the charisma? Are you going to be clever? And that's who the Michael Jordan was to the world. How cat is. So no matter who you get, everybody, we're going to be judging it off the same one man. And that's why I say sometimes there comes a force in this world that hasn't been seen before that does something that just says, what is this? I remember when you said I think this is going to go 2.5.

This is going to go 2.5. Somebody said, you already got that right now. I had no idea. I don't think anybody thought. I was talking to somebody at the All all-star i say when when you saw michael jordan you faced him in his rookie season i was having a conversation with dr j

i said did you know he said no i thought he was good i thought he was very good i thought he's gonna be a great player but nobody thought he was gonna be that that. And you didn't. And as great as Cat was, and I was hoping for 10 to 15 million views. Oh, okay. And I tell people this. I say, do you understand? There's not a whole lot of people sitting down having an interview, a conversation that's doing that number. Yeah. Steve Harvey ended up going over 11 million views. I got a couple

at 6 million views. I said, but do you understand what 10, 15 million views is? I say, a sitcom that get 10, 15 million views will be on for 20 years if they got those numbers once a week. And so, you telling me that, no, I didn't know.

No, the only person that knew that he could generate this was cat because he told me he said your life's gonna change you're gonna be at a new realm a new stratosphere and people are gonna want to want to want to come on your podcast because you offer a safe space for people to tell their truth but he said they're gonna come for you. And I was like, come on, I mean, I just, you know, I guess it's like, I guess I'm harboring a fugitive. You know what I'm saying?

Man, hey, he came to my house, but you held him up, you helped him. A vain captain. So they're looking at me because he and Monique said what they said on my platform, they hold me culpable. Now, mind you, I've done Johnny Manziel is my

110th. He's up right now. Johnny Manziel is the 110th person. Different person because I haven't had any repeats yet. The 110th person that I've sat down with. They judge me on two podcasts.

Yep. Now, I had DC Youngfly. I had Sandy Undertaker. I had Ricky Smiley. I had Michael Blackson. I had Steve Harvey. I had Country Wayne. I had Desi Banks.

But it's two. I've had Magic Johnson. I've had Floyd Mayweather. I had my brother. I had DeMar DeRozan. I had Lamar Odom. I had Steve Smith. It's two podcasts.

Oh, I'm messing. So one less than 2% of the podcast that I've sat down with people, that's how you judge me. It's funny because he knows he told you this was

going to happen. To let you know how powerful he know what he was holding in. He knew his greatness. He knew what he was giving you. He knew it. That's why he can call it out. They're going to come for you.

There's only a few people that can beat that interview. And one is them telling on themselves. Yeah. Right. You got Diddy. Right. Did he come out with a confessions one? Boom.

Right. And then you got the lady with a sexual island and whatever the hell that shit was. And she starts telling on the world. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Those are the only two entities. Right. with sexual violence and whatever the hell that shit was. And she starts telling on the world. Oh, yeah, yeah. Those are the only two entities, right, that can come out and do some damage like that.

But as the interviewer, when someone says, man, Shannon, I was like, oh, because he's supposed to know. Right? He got his answers. I said,

Shannon has his playbook. Yeah. That came in with his own fucking playbook. And my thing was, I was talking to my, I was talking to someone. I said, so let me ask you this. Who that's in my space that do what I do

would have told Cat Williams, nah, Cat, we're not going to, I don't want to interview Cat. I don't want to interview Monique. I don't want to hear whatever you said, we don't believe. And after he said, because at the end of the day, you might sit down with someone, but you don't have to hear it and would have said on that.

I just want to know, chat, how many people you think that do what I do from whomever, the Breakfast Club or whomever, let's just say there are 500 people that's in the space that I'm currently in. How many of them would have cut Kat off

and even if they do the interview and he said exactly what he said on mine, not release it. How many people that's in the space Monique has done 13 million views about what I thought she would get. I remember talking, I said, I believe she'll do

somewhere between 10 and 15 million. If you do the breakout clip, she's over 15. She's over 15 million. But I thought the entire episode would be somewhere between 10 and 15. So she's right there. She might have 13 million probably by the end of the year. She'd probably be at 15 million. So to do what I thought it would do. I thought it would do. But when you look at all the people that occupy the space that I occupy, I don't believe I believe they're being disingenuous when they said, oh, he I wouldn't let him do this or I wouldn't say that or I wouldn't have even aired the clip. I don't believe it. They're lying because the problem is they when you're interviewing someone, if I interview a football player right now.

Right. I only have certain information on the guy. Right. So he's telling you his truth. You don't know what's the truth. What's a lie for you to even call him out on anything. And that's why I said no matter who says something, zero people will not air that. Zero people is not going to air the Cat Williams, Hoda Moniz, because they don't know what. You're just listening to the guy talking, boom, boom, boom. You don't know what to edit. You don't know because it's their story.

They're telling their story. We're listening, right? The only people that know that some of this stuff is a lie is the people that's involved. Now, the people that's involved, they got to come and tell their side, right? Now, when Kat does it and then they start telling their sides, now we're back.

We're sitting here doing this. And you get to believe. And I didn't say, oh, Kat, try to go even further. He said what he said. I move on. he said what he said i move on she said what she said i move on now the viewing audience the listening audience you decide i think he lied that doesn't sound like something xyz would do that doesn't sound like something xyz will say well i don't believe that about knowing the person the character that that person is

okay but that's not for me to decide. I had no idea when I sat down with Kent Williams. Unfortunately, guys, I don't follow the comedy circuit that close. I don't. I just don't because I'm not going to talk about it. I follow things that I know I'm going to talk about. I'm going to follow things that make me

money. Basketball, football, social issues. I follow stuff like that. I don't know about who likes who, who cool with who, who stole this, who stole that. I don't know. And I would be sitting here lying if I said I did. So when Cat came on, I knew who Cat Williams was. Hell, he used to live up in Gainesville.

He and I having a conversation before. You know, he moved to live up in Gainesville. He and I having a conversation before, you know, he moved, he left the state of Georgia. He lives in a totally different state now. So I knew that, but all this stuff he's telling me, I didn't know because I don't follow it like that. That doesn't pay me money.

Somebody want to tell me who my favorite, I can tell you who my favorite comedians are and who I listen to and who I would pay my money. Somebody want to tell me who my favorite, I can tell you who my favorite comedians are and who I listen to and who I would pay my money to go see. But all this other stuff that he was talking about, I ain't know. I didn't. And I'm watching it from,

I'm watching it from the standpoint of a host. And I'm saying, all right, what would I have cut out, right? And I'm sitting here like, nothing. What am I cutting out right right if if you know cedric the entertainer said this and i allowed it then i have to give him a chance to respond steve harvey chance to respond so these guys i have i have to give him a chance to respond on

the things that were said about him so there's really nothing I can cut out without doing him any disjustice because the one thing you don't want to do is you don't want to erase something and then he calls you like, yo, why'd you take this out? Exactly. Because everybody's saying, well, he edited that out.

That's not what he said. So most of the time, 98% of the time, 99% of the time, the interview is rendered as an entirety. Yep. Unless they say something that jeopardizes the interview is random in its entirety. Yep. Unless they say something that jeopardizes the interview itself. Yes, yes, yes.

I'm not going to, like, if he called, like I said, if he said something, like I said, I didn't think he said anything, but like, if he makes some anti-Semitic statement or something that I think is going to not only damage him, but damage me also, I can't put that out. And there, you know, so for me,

there's like what Shannon, I like, bro, y'all actually, y'all got too much time because Shannon got five jobs and Shannon is like researching, trying to get ready for first take, trying to get ready for nightcap, trying to do the best deep dive I can. CJ and I on guest on Club Shea Shea. But I don't follow it that close. I don't know they got beat. That ain't got nothing to do with me.

I'm talking about football and basketball on a daily basis. And occasionally there was a time, what, during the pandemic that we had the social issues and we had the Colin Kaepernick. So, okay, now I've got to spend a lot of my time. Okay. Talking about that,

dealing with that, researching that, going back to history and understanding the flag and understanding the blacks and the flag and understanding what the flag represents. And like what I said, and people got mad. I said, the flag doesn't represent everything to everybody.

It might mean something to him, but something totally different to him. And so, because it means that to you, that doesn't mean that it has to mean that to me. And so I'm researching and understanding the history of that. But this cat thing is like, bro, I didn't expect

to be here. I mean, it's about to hit 60 million views. 60. Are you at about 300 all together all the impressions and everything 300 a million no 300 million over all the impressions

and all like I know you're over yeah okay okay yeah I was that's like the all-star numbers right it's just for that but overall is that I mean when you look at hold on let me see I think I think he's done like 1.5 million likes or something, which is crazy. Let me see what Kat.

The biggest problem was, is Complex ranked you number one. And you stamped it goddamn it down. You see many, you put the goddamned Jordan ones in everybody's face right after. So everybody know goddammit Shannon's number one next year too goddammit. And that's just the way it is.

It's got 1.5 million likes, 202,000 comments, which is crazy. And I think the thing is, look, you lose your job in June and in November, December, you're ranked number one sports personality. And then you start to, but I told you, I said, I'm coming. I said, look, and I think the thing is that because I was talking to a good friend of mine tonight. And I said, I think the thing is what happened is that when I was down and I bounced back, not only did I bounce back quick, I bounced up so high.

So he had to have done something. He had to have sold his soul. He had to have sold out his people, even though nobody could tell you what I sold or who I sold out. But I sold out my community. And that's what, and I was like, man, they mad at me. They upset

at me. No, they upset it's me that I got the cat interview because I don't believe it with 60 million views and they know if you're in this space, they know what 60 million views does. They know you're in this space they know what 60 million views does yeah they know the the the monetary because people have done people have done things trying to say

well well if he does this much cpms and he gets this much rpms and he gets this many downloads and he gets this many this and he gets many that they're like hold on Hold on. You are during COVID Amazon right now. Yeah. Right? You are Amazon right now for content, right? If anybody want to get something out and they know it's going to go boom, they come into you. If Kevin Hart wants to talk, he got to come to you.

You are that dude. Right? And that's what the problem is. You got to remember, for the most part, everyone's haters. Right? No one knows how to compete and say, hey, I'm trying to keep up with him. I'm following his drift. Right?

It's like I'm trying to take each other off the road. Right. And so it's like, I'm trying to, we're trying to take each other off the road. And yeah. Right. And that's the same thing. It's like, well, you know,

Gil wants to put this on his channel and not as you, I said, I don't care. I said, I won't get to succeed. I read, make sure y'all subscribe to Gil,

not only to his podcast, his YouTube channel, subscribe to his personal page. I want to see Gil win because I saw in the pandemic, the U.S. government print money. So I know they got a lot of it. If they run out of it, they'll print more. So I'm not going to try. I'm not going to get in the way of Gil making money.

If I can help Gil make money, I'm going to help Gil make money. And if somebody comes along and they're better than me and they do better job than me and they get more sponsors and advertise and make more money, that's OK. do better job than me and they get more sponsors and advertise and make more money. That's okay. Because at some point in time, I pass somebody up and I know eventually somebody's going to pass me up, but that's not going to stop me from doing great content.

I don't expect in my lifetime to ever do another interview like this. And that's okay. This is my thriller. I got thriller. Bad was not a bad album. Off the Wall was I believe Off the Wall was his greatest album, even though it didn't have the commercial success as Thriller did. I think I've done some great interviews. The Steve Harvey.

I think for the most part, all the interviews that I've done have been very good. I mean, I got 24 interviews with at least 2 million. At least 2 million views. That's just the full episode, not counting the breakout clips. So to make it seem like all of a sudden I just burst on the scene, Club Shay Shay is about to be four years old in September.

And I've been doing this and I got 110 episodes. I think the Johnny Mansell interview is going to be great. But if you don't think I can interview people, go back and look at some of my work at CBS when that's what was required, that that was their

platform and I got to go out and I got to like, okay, you say this, well, I got to say, I got the stats to say that because that was a different that was a different genre. That was an interview. I'm having a conversation.

Bro, I ain't asking nobody where you from, sitting down with Tony Romo or Matthew Stafford or somebody like that. I ain't what I sat down with Gates. Where you from? Come on. Like you see me when I ring number seven, I'm happy.

What? Right? Because if you're a real competitor, right, you're looking at what makes people great. You're not sitting there saying, why them? Nope. Right? Because asking the question of why them, you already lost. You said it.

You got five jobs, right? You're like a Jamaican in this industry, right? That's why. He has five jobs. At some point, doing what he does, something's going to hit, right? Like, I love the country Wayne. Country Wayne said something,

and I thought of you. I even hit him in a DM. He said, he was talking about he spends about $250,000 a month on content, do about 300 videos. And he says he don't print money. He prints content, right? The phone's in my pocket, and I'm listening to it. And I said, wait, what did he just say?

I had to rewind. I don't print money. I print content. And I said, before I even did he just say? I had to rewind. I don't print money. I print content. And I said, before I even think about what I hit him, what did you mean by this? And he broke it down to me. And I said, God damn it. I mean, yes, I mean, I got to get my content game on. Yes.

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but I got to turn around and come back to Jersey. Now I can't go all the way back to LA. I got to stop in Atlanta because I got to go to Dallas. And then I fly from Dallas to L.A. And then guess what? A week later, I got to be in Colorado. And then a week after that, I got to fly back to Georgia. So

that's what you see. You judging me for where I am, but you don't know where I've been and you don't know where I'm going. And I don't make, I don't make, I don't, and my sister always tell me, say, Shannon, don't burn yourself out. Shannon, you're going, you're going at a breakneck speed. I said, Libby, I asked the man

above to give me this. I'm prepared for this. I'm prepared for this moment. I've always felt I could do it, but I just needed somebody to give me the opportunity. Okay? I created a space. I got people to come with me. Ash,

the first two people I hired for my company, Shae Shae Media, was CJ, Christian Deere, and Ashley Amay. I ain't got no job. Ash called me and said, Shannon, you got a job? No. She said, but I'm still going with you. CJ, hey,

Shannon, what you gonna do? I said, CJ, I don't know what I'm still going with you. CJ, hey, Shannon, what you going to do? I said, CJ, I don't know what I'm going to do, but whatever it is, I want you to be a part of it. He said, Shannon, we created something special. I want to be a part of it moving forward. Just let me know what you're going to do. I'm paying them out my pocket until I got, until, hey, talking to different people, you know, talking to Colin Cowherd, talking to this group, talking to that group. But I know Colin a little bit, and I trust Jamie Horwitz because he hired me at the volume.

Yep. This is what I believe I can do. We ain't got nightcap yet. Start talking about nightcap, Jamie and I, we sit around, come in, who you want? I said, I think Ocho Cinco. He's like, huh? He's not doing TV.

I said, but I need somebody that was really good at football but doesn't take himself too serious. He can joke and he can take a joke. I said, that's what you need. That's what you need. I said, because we're not going to get a chance, a second chance to get people to tune in. We're not.

So we got to grab them. And that's We're not. So we got the gravel. Yep. And that's what we did. And so that's what I've done. And instead of, you know, but I get it. I didn't see it at first. But now after, you know, having something to say to Mike and having something to say to a few people,

and I look at other people, they're creating content off of what I said. I said, well, I might as well just keep the content for myself and put it up on my own damn page and monetize it. Y'all monetize. Y'all ain't doing no work. Mm-hmm. I ain't doing no work.

You know what you are right now? And this is why you got to step back too. They don't know your work ethic, but they're judging you from a lens that is not even close to them. Now you see why someone like Kevin Durant will be defending himself on burner accounts. Because if you call,

if you say something about Kevin, Kevin's probably watching right now. For sure. Because if he ain't watching, he's practicing. If he ain't practicing, he's watching. He's watching his phone. He's watching the two. He's watching game tape.

So when you, when someone comes at you and you, you defend yourself and people's like, yo, why is Shannon defending himself? Someone comes at you and you defend yourself. And people are like, yo, why is Shannon defending himself? He's not defending himself in a sense of his integrity. He's defending his work ethic. He's defending everything he's put into it. And you're making it seem like it's easy. You're making it seem like what he does is just he wakes up and gets to do it.

You just said your next damn three weeks. And I'm sitting here like, that's like seven flights, eight flights, hotel room. You're moving faster than the NBA team right now. And I still got to do the first take and I still got to do night camp and I still got to...

I'm home for two days and I got two sit-downs on Tuesday and Wednesday and then I'm out. Back to Jersey. But that's what they don't see. So when they throw the shots at you, you defending your work ethic, right? Yeah, you can talk about the interview and talk about me personally. Don't try to pretend what I'm doing.

And I'm not putting that at work. You sitting behind your computer just thinking jabs at me, and I'm sitting here flying across the country doing my goddamn job. And that's how some of the athletes feel when jabs at me. And I'm sitting here flying across the country doing my goddamn job. And that's how some of the athletes feel when people come at it. It's more of like nobody wanted me. I had to build

a studio. This studio right here was built to do interviews. When I was thinking about interviewing, I was like, yeah, when I do interviews and somebody wants me in an interview, I want a set. I don't want to sit there and do my phone and do this. I want to set to make it look professional

so they can take me seriously. I wake up today at 3.30 to look at the what's in it because we got the anniversary of the year. I'm up 3.30 taking notes. So I'd be on point. Let me go ahead, search this, search that.

Because I know what it takes because I watch greatness do what greatness does. Right? And I think that's what some people don't admire. They're like, yeah, man, you throw shots at Stephen A,

you throw shots at... I said, that's just competitiveness. Yeah. That has nothing... The reason I pay attention to everything, like, Ocho, when you said Ocho Cinco, I was like, the one person that should be sitting on social media all day is Ocho. He just has that personality. Back from 2010, 11, he was just funny as hell. And I was like, yo, he's a social media darling, right?

Jamie didn't understand that. You did, right? Somebody else who's sitting there who can grab numbers is Marshawn Lynch, right? I look at it from the standpoint the same way you look at it. Like, who's great combos? You know, because sometimes everybody doesn't see it. You know, so like you and Ultra, I'd be sitting there dying laughing. It's like, he makes you feel young.

And that's the thing. He makes you smile. Like, even when I'm watching it, I just automatically just tease. And people think it's easy. I mean, if it's easy, everybody could do it. People don't realize I worked on getting Cat for over a year.

A year. I started reaching out to cat back in 2022. Yeah. Maybe I think, yeah, I don't know. Probably. Yeah.

We see. I don't like to really do. I don't like to do sit down. You heard him say it. I don't do these. And to get him to sit down and to get him to feel comfortable enough to open up, uh,

Monique to get out of field, talk to Monique. She's like to get her to talk to Monique, she's like, baby, I'm going to need to talk to you. Hey, put me on speakerphone. I talked to her and her husband. Mo, I ain't going to put you in a bad spot. This is your opportunity.

You come on here. You speak. I'm not going to interrupt you. You tell your truth. That's it. You come on here. You speak. I'm not going to interrupt you. You tell your truth. That's it. You got a team. I brought a team out. First, hey, whatever you need. Hey, she's like, I got to make up. I got this. I got this. I'm going to need these people. No problem. Are these the people that normally travel with you? Boom, boom, boom. Got to take care of it. Do you need a place to stay?

We got all that taken care of. She said, no, baby, I'm coming in. I'm going to do this and I'm going to get back on the floor. OK, whatever you need. Do we need to have anything? Do we need to have food catered? No. Hey, we could.

I'm very respectful. I talked a lot of times. I talked to the guests. You know, are you pitching anything? You have a movie. You got a book. You have something coming out, something you want to promote. I believe everybody should benefit from coming on Club Shay Shay. Not just

Shannon. I believe you should benefit. If you got something you want to promote, I got almost 3 million subs. It's going to be seen by a lot of different people. By the time I put it up on YouTube, by the time I put it up on IG, I put it up on Twitter,

I put it on my Facebook, we chop it up, put it on TikTok, a lot of eyes going to see this. I look at it, you come into my house and I prepare the table and I want everybody to feast. And that's why everybody mad because you are giving out

a one red carpet service and you force everybody to step their damn game up when they wasn't ready to. Right? You talking about you flying everybody out, you doing it. They can't do it they they can't

do this they can't do it so so what ends up happening is are we mad and you done raised the price and you you done got lebron james you done got all these people in your arena ticket prices go up and that's what you did on people's podcasts right you put the price of red carpet event now right so there's you know so if i put the price of Red Carpet event now, right? So, you know, so if I want the Club Shay Shay experience, goddamn it, I gotta go to Club Shay Shay. No chill, Gil ain't

giving you none of that. I'm not, you don't come on my, I don't judge. Well, you asked Brittany Renner, I said, I didn't ask Brittany Renner anything. She volunteered and said that. She and I had a great conversation before. I Brittany Renner. I said, I didn't ask Brittany Renner anything. She volunteered and said that. She and I had a great conversation before. I talked to her. I said, Brittany,

I'm not trying to put you in no bad spot. She's like, I'm an open book. She said, Shannon, I ain't got anything to hide. I've done what I've done, and I'm who I am. Okay. Tell me what you need from me. She's like, I'm going to be out here. I'm going to be out here in L.A to be out here in LA at this certain time.

I say, okay, this is the time that I normally shoot. I can move it up or back, you know, 30 minutes. I will give it to accommodate you. I'm accommodating the guests. That's why I try to do my tapings, Gil, on Thursdays and Fridays because I'm working. I got Sunday night nightcap. I got first take. Then got Sunday night nightcap. I got first take.

Then I got nightcap again. I got first take. And so what I'm trying to do is like, okay, I don't really have anything. And then, you know, Wednesday, I got nightcap with you. We'll have Thursday again, but okay, I can do. So I'm trying to do everything. Guess I can only shoot Monday. Okay.

Chris Brown said, hey, I want to sit down with you man he said I appreciate the support that you're giving me but I can only do it Friday at 8 o'clock at my house I'm there T.I. said hey bro you know I want to sit down with a

Georgia homie but I can only do Saturday at 4 o'clock in the afternoon. There's not a time that a guest can say, I can sit down, in which I will not have that team ready. So ain't no update. If you work with Club Shea Shea, or you work with

Nightcap, there is no day off. Because I call, you don't call like a doctor. It's that, you don't call like a doctor. It's stat. Code A, you don't call. I call, it might be a Thursday. If I call this team and say, hey, we got an interview tomorrow at 2, I

guarantee you, that thing gonna be lined up. When that guest come in, he gonna get mic'd up or he gonna get mic'd up and we ready to go. That's how we operate. If you don't want to operate on doctor's rules, doctor's code, on 24-hour notice, hey, Shea Shea Media ain't the place for you. It's really that simple.

There's only one way we're going to do things. This is my way right here. And everybody knows that. Ashton, Ashton, hey, she's on calls all the time. She's hitting me up. Shannon, what do you think about this? Shannon, what do you think about that? A lot of stuff she does handles like, he's not going to do that. He don't want to do any of that. No, he's you think about this? Shannon, what do you think about that? A lot of stuff she does handles like,

he's not going to do that. He don't want to do any of that. No, he's going to be mad if y'all do this. But that's the way we operate, Grill. We are a well-oiled machine. Well-oiled. And I said, look, this is what, look, my team, our media team,

this is where we're going to take our vacation. Now, if you need to take a vacation before that, you're probably going to come back and ain't going to have a job. Whoosh! This is the way we're going to do it. Now, you want in? I'm going to pay you a great salary. A great salary.

I'm talking about great. Jordan, you're going to get a great salary. You're going to fly. Hey, you're going to stay at a great hotel. You're going to get everything comp, but I'm going to need you X, Y, and Z. You want to work out? He loves working out. Don't let work out get in the way of what we got to do now.

If you got to take your ass at midnight and go work out, go work out at midnight. But don't you miss nothing. Man, I damn near want a job. man, I damn near want a job. But I hope everybody is taking notes because you're asking the question, why is someone successful? And he's telling you exactly why. And I'm sitting here like, okay, so look,

I need to get my shit together, right? Because there's levels. There's steps to this, right? And having a solid team is step one. Having one that really believes in the brand is step one and from there

just putting heads together. I'm always in awe of listening to you know, why you're at the top, right? We can all sit here and guess and stuff, but there is a machine, and the machine is you.

Oh, we work. Oh, okay. It ain't no ifs and abas about it. And people like, you know, and I'm like, hey, well, yeah, we think this is a guy. I say, well, okay, what's his work ethic? Nah, I said, well, it ain't gonna work. It's not gonna work. I mean, you come up with this thing. We working. We work because people say people like, well, I want this, this and this. But are you willing to work for it? Are you willing to pay the price that it takes to

be successful? I am. I know what it takes to be successful. I've been successful at damn near everything that I've done. But there's a price to be paid for that. There's a work ethic that needs to go in. There's a study habit.

And I ain't got no problem with working because I've worked harder for less. So if I can work and I work harder for other people. I said,

so if I can work that hard and I'm getting a check, now I like this marketplace because I can create there ain't no salary cap on this. I can make as much money as

the content. If I produce great content and people like my content, there ain't no telling how much I can make. But I love that aspect of it. Yes. I love putting it on me because I don't have the luxury of having somebody that's going to cut me a check. OK. OK.

We go eat. We go eat. But we don't work. You eat what you kill. Don't give. That's a simple. You eat what you get. Well.

Oh, lies. Don't start to rumble he like damn we ain't killed nothing today what we gonna do well we gotta get on that grind we gotta get better at our tactics in which we can corner this animal well we gotta get better at our tactics in which we can create this content in which people want to

consume they want to see it they want to see it. They want to hear it. That's how we do it, Gil. That's how we do it. And I've got great teammates that want to do this. And if they don't, can't be here. Gil, I tell everybody the same thing my grandfather

told my brother and I. He said, y'all ain't got to do nothing, but you just can't do it here. You ain't got to work hard. You just can't do it here. You got to give. Hey, I did everything. What you want? You want 401k?

Boom. You want a health and benefits? Boom. You want to keep. What were you making? OK, I'm gonna give you thirty five thousand more than what you was making. But I'm very demanding. You can see my person.

I am very demanding. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But that's what they want. And that's what we get. We travel good. Yeah, let's get to your MVP picks. Nikola Jokic, 26, 12, and 9. Nuggets, 36 and 13.

Shea, 31, 5 and a half, 6 and a, 12, and 9. Nuggets, 36 and 13. Shea, 31, 5.5, 6.5, 37 and 17. Giannis Antetokounmpo, Greek freak, 31, 11, 6.5, 35 and 21. Luka Doncic, 34 points, 9 rebounds, 9.5 assists, 32 and 23. And Jason Tatum, 27, 8.6, 5, 43 and 12. Who's your MVP right now? I'm going to go with Shea. Okay. And the reason I'm going to go with Shea is it's the youngest team in the NBA.

No one had this team at two, at the all-star break. at two at the all-star break you have a young guy leading a young team and he's putting up the same numbers as guys who have superstars with them so it's hard for me to give a superstar the benefit of the doubt when he has another player with him and you have a guy who has not one proven soul following his lead. He is Shannon sharp in around you. I ain't got no job right now. I don't know what we're going to do, but I know I want you with me and he's taking them to the promised land right

now. So it's like, that's who I'm going with. That's the MVP. You think he, you think he could do enough to finish out the season as the MVP? To be honest, man, if voters are voting on what an MVP is, if his team is top three, it'd be wild.

Because Minnesota, you have Ant-Man, you have Rudy, you have Cat, right? The Clippers shit, you got damn near Paul George Harden. And Russell Cronenberg, Denver, you're the champions. Denver, you are the defending champion, so you should be number one.

So the only person in here who does not have a resume or a team that has a resume is Shea, and he's putting up 30. So it's going to be hard to knock him off. Like, you have to be so biased and try to justify him not winning it because no one put him in his category here. Right. Believe the Lakers can turn it around after the All-Star game.

A Lakers-Warriors elimination game would give the standing, would give the standing, give us now. Lakers has considerable work remaining to move up to the eighth spot, but the Lakers have played much better late and could play even better once Dinwiddie acclimates himself. I think the thing for me,

Gil, what I love most about the Lakers is that the way they played when LeBron didn't play. That lets me know that when he comes back, what they're capable of. I saw D-Lo. D-Lo has been unbelievable. Anthony Davis has been healthy. He's been a monster. He's going to be on the All-NBA team.

Austin Reed just gets better, better, and better. And I love the Dinwiddie addition. I believe he's going to be on the All-NBA team. Austin Reed just gets better, better and better. And I love the Dinwiddie addition. I believe he's going to get any better. And Rui Hachimura. Rui been spectacular. How high do you believe they can go? Can they

get to the five? Can they get to the six? Are they relegated? Do you believe they're going to remain in the play-in? Because right now they're nine. The sixth spot is by the Pelicans? Do you believe they're going to remain in the play-in? Because right now they're nine. The sixth spot is by the Pelicans at 33. So they're like three games back of the Pails. I actually think they can get to six. It's all going to really depend on this.

When they don't have LeBron, it seems like it seems like a student when the substitute teacher gets there, right? They themselves, right? They themselves. Act like that.

I need Rui and all of them. Be you when LeBron gets back. Get out the fanboy tactic. Get out the, you know, LeBron. I need to worry about what LeBron's thinking. Fuck what he's thinking. Be you.

He will adjust to you. That's what makes guys great. They will adjust to you. He is going to be looking at, all right, you guys are doing this. All right, I can take a couple days off, right? And then when you really need me to step up, I can step up. But they have to really go in and be aggressive.

And if they get to come out and be aggressive while LeBron is on that floor, I think they can get six. Time for our last segment of the day where we answer y'all's Super Chat questions. It's called Q&A. Check this, Gil. Hey, man.

All right. Him underscore 910 asked, do you think the NBA could somehow incorporate Ice Cube's big three during the All-Star weekend if the NBA and Cube could come to some kind of agreement? And now that I think about it, I'm kind of mad that I said that because I'm a fan of Cube and I put out the three.

Like, you know. It would be it would be appreciated. retired players in Cube, if you try to really incorporate the three-on-three into the All-Star game and really give back, not necessarily to Cube himself, but give back to your legacy because your legacy is in that.

Dr. J is there. Brent Berry is there. You know, Rick Warren, right? The guys are there. So you're not giving back to him. You're giving back to them. So to try to incorporate this three-on-three, and they could be the coaches of it, it'd be for a great story.

It doesn't infringe on what the NBA is doing, having a three. Like your retired players who are retiring, they have a place to go. You should be part of that. R. Stone said, we need a be part of that. R Stone said, we need a dunk contest of champions. What you mean? And them guys old. Who dunk?

What champions? Man, Michael Jordan. Mike, like 60. Mike ain't been a dunk no more, man. Oh, man. The only one probably, Vince, Vince like 47. He can dunk still though, but you know. Yeah, he ain't getting up like he once could. I think they should do this.

I think they should put a rule in anybody who enters the dunk contest, right? Like you pay them and that contract is a three-year contract unless they are hurt so now like somebody like a jaylen green and you got these dunkers so like you know somebody like zach levine and them you have them for three years and you get to protect your integrity of the dunk contest for at least three years and you just keep moving entities in you know john morant i get them for three years right the zion i can get them for three years, right? The Zion, I can get them for three. And you try to protect it that way where you can,

you know, lock them down to a three-year contract instead of going each year, trying to figure out, you know what I mean? Who's going to participate this year? Stephanie Warfield asked, Gil, how do you feel about women's feet as for what put them in your mouth

are they clean man unless they got vinegar on them I ain't putting them in my mouth they gotta be pigs feet listen I'm what they call shallow my mouth. They got to be pigs feet. I don't have to have pig feet. Listen, I'm what they call shallow. I got my eye on the ball.

I don't care about your fingernails and where I'm going. Is it good? If it's good, I don't care about the grass. So now we nightcap after dark. God dang it, Gil. I was trying to get out of here. And the grass. So now we nightcap after dark. God dang it, Gil. I was trying to get out of here. And there you go, got this nightcap after dark.

Lord have mercy. Listen, hey, listen. When I walk in and there's roaches on the wall, how's the food here? The food's good. Hey, I don't like it. The roaches, huh? I mean, but it's good. I might need to let you and Ocho have a shoot.

Hey, I'm going to kiss some corns, baby. One, there you go, baby. I'm going to go to the drawer and get a pair of my socks to put on your feet. Hey, socks on. Listen, if you got your T-shirt on because you care about your stretch marks, I don't care. Oh, Lord. That's not what I'm here for.

I'm not here to judge. Oh, Gil, man. Gil, say it ain't so, Gil. Come on, Gil. I'm here to enjoy, not judge. I thought you, Gil, I thought you, you know. Oh, Lord. This man here.

This man say he don't care about nothing. Hey, hey, hey. Hey, y'all. hey, you might have been the Hooper, you might have been the Hooper back in the day and you got black toes I don't know, but I'm not going to judge hey, yeah, Ocho just called me to say Gil lied, he be on them toes

heavy, nah, Gil said he be on the toes heavy, yeah, Gil let go, Gil say he ain't got, Gil say, hey, look here he ain't got, Gil say, hey, look here, he ain't got no standards. Not, not, not no, listen, not no toes or no hands, listen. Gil say anything, twos and fues, threes and fours. Hey, everybody look pretty when them lights go out.

One 80, two 10, you know, one 80, you ain't a lady. Two 10, count me in. 220, I have a mini. Hey, 220, you just can't get on top. You know what I mean? I'm trying to breathe after. You know what I mean? That's it.

Ocho say, uh, uh, uh. Ocho say, you eat cakes. What's the flavor on? What's the flavor what's the flavor I need some water I got a joke over here what's the flavor man Ocho

you and Gil need to do a segment after dark I'm gonna do a first round and then you and Gil take over. Nah. A little whipped cream in the oven. Ocho said you his guy because

that's what he do too. Hey. Woo. Ocho. Man. Trey said, hey guys, love the show. Caught pneumonia. Could I get a prayer? Love, been watching early, undisputed,

letting the haters talk. You going up. Trey, bro, I'm glad you're back with us, bro. I am sorry because I know that pneumonia gets you down, but it had me down. But I couldn't take no days off. I had to fight through it, Trey. But I'm glad, bro.

I am glad you're better. I'm glad you're back on your feet. Thanks for the support. And everybody in the chat is sending you love and prayers. Make sure you feel better. Stay better, bro. We really appreciate you. D-Roll asked, if we keep score for 30 days, you and RC, who are the cleanest?

Who wins? Man, I retired my crown as the best dress man y'all know what I do man y'all know what I do I mean I just I stopped like going overboard with the dress because I didn't want people to take the ball and go home

but they know me they know what I bring to the table. They know I keep that thing. Was you like that when you played? Was you? The only time I wore a suit is when we traveled, I didn't wear a suit to the game. Like a lot of these guys do now,

but I dressed up, you know, had turtlenecks and, and, you know, jeans and had a Chelsea boots or, you know, different,

different stuff like that. But I didn't come to the game with a T-shirt on like some of these guys and flip-flop. But I was very presentable. I always cared about how I looked. Even when I didn't really have any money, I had Lee jeans and Izod and Fox shirts and Jabot and had all that stuff. So I was one of those guys that always, you know, cared about my appearance and made sure I was, you know,

clean, even though you can't tell now. I got a shave in the morning. But, uh... But no, no. R.C., you know you can't see me hooters. Hold on. Now this man Ocho talking about he the best dressed with ease.

All right, have a great day, Ocho he the best dressed with ease listen I can't compete I'm not even gonna lie I don't know if I'm a 36 or a 38 you just you just grabbing it throwing it on her look I get dressed to pretend going on, huh? I just... Look, listen. Hey, y'all. Y'all think I'm playing? Look, I get dressed to pretend that my shit together. I got it.

Listen, I got this on with flip-flops on. But you... You inside, so you good. As long as you don't leave your house like that, you straight. I went to the mall like this. Oh, Lord have mercy.

I was at the mall like this, huh? I mean, man, I don't wear flip-flops. I don't wear sandals no more. Like if I'm at the house, I wear Crocs in the house because, you know, she'll say I'm dirty, so I got to take my shoes'm at the house I wear Crocs in the house

cause you know she always say I'm dirty so I gotta take my shoes off at the door put the Crocs on I got shoes that I take the dog out the back with or I walk the dog around the neighborhood so nah but sometimes

sometimes Gil when I'm just I run to the store but it's early in the morning. It's like, as soon as, uh, uh, the supermarket open, it's open at seven. I'm there at seven Oh two. I'm normally the first guy in there. Grab what I've got to grab. And I'm up out of there. So, so I don't get too dressed, but if I'm going and I think somebody might see me now, the worst they're probably going to see me with workout clothes. Cause a lot of times,

sometimes I stopped by after working out and I got workout clothes, but ain't i ain't shabby i ain't i ain't haggardly or anything like that but i i try to be as resentable as possible when i step out okay okay okay d love asks oh do you have a clothing line nope but i'm about to get one we're working on it we're working on it d love we're working on it. We're working on it, D-Love. We're working on it. We put some... We've been working on it for now for about three, four months. And so I think we're going to have something here in the next month that I'm very, very excited about.

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