Club Shay Shay - Nightcap Hour 2: Illinois SHUTS DOWN Iowa + Doc Rivers Speaks on BUCKS ELIMINATION from PLAYOFFS + Sixers BIG 3 is BACK + Arizona ADVANCES to FINAL FOUR

Episode Date: March 29, 2026

Shannon Sharpe, Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson and Iso Joe Johnson react to Illinois beats Iowa to advance to the Final 4, Doc Rivers on why they haven’t been good in his coaching tenure, the Philadelphia 76ers big 3 looks like they are back after beating the Hornets, Arizona beats Purdue to advance to their first final 4 since 2001 and Mark Cuban trolls Nico Harrison for traveling commercial and much more! 0:00 - Arizona Wildcats going to the Final Four3:50 - Illinois is headed to the Final Four9:41- Doc Rivers on the Bucks being eliminated frm the playoffs36:25 - The Sixers Big 3 is back Subscribe to Nightcap presented by PrizePicks so you don’t miss out on any new drops! Download the PrizePicks app today and use code SHANNON to get $50 in lineups after you play your first $5 lineup! Visit https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/NI... (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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and now. Brought to you by Novartis, founding partner of IHeart Women's Sports Network. For the first time since 2001, the Arizona Wildcats are headed back to the final four. The top-seated Wildcats punched their ticket with a 79-64 win over the number two Purdue boilermakers, setting a school record for wins in a season,

36 in the process. The Wildcats would take their 13-game winning street to Indianapolis, where they'll play the winner of Sunday's game, Michigan and Tennessee. against the veteran Purdue team, Arizona was led by its talented freshman. Braden Burry's 14. Can you say his last name? Carton, no cough, 18, and Corpete had 20 combined for 52 to up phase,

up phase on the biggest stage in their young careers. I was a little word in the first half, though, Joe. But boy, these jokes came out in the second half. I don't know. What kind of adjustments they made at halftime, Uncle Joe? Ah, hey, hey, they coach told him, look, y'all going to mess around, and we're going to be looking back on this game, talking about, man, we should be still playing.

That's what he told him. Y'all need to come out with a little sense of urgency in this second half because in that second half, Uncle Ocho, the two freshmen, matter of fact, the three freshmen, the guy number eight, I can't tell his name neither. But Cole P and Burris, they turned it up in the second half. I thought Cole P really got into his, he got into a rhythm. Yeah.

The big boy, he got into a rhythm, and he was. was going at them big that Purdue got. That's why Purdue was able to hang into the game. And that's why when you seen Arizona play against Arkansas, we kind of thin and frail down now. We got guys who can play on the perimeter, but we ain't really got enough girth to deal with them big guys. Purdue had that. Purdue had some big that was going at them. They was offensive rebounding. They was making it tough for Arizona. I just thought in the second half, Arizona, everything kind of slowed down for them freshmen, because all three of those guys freshman, number eight is a freshman. He's a freshman.

Burry's a freshman. His name Carchenhoove. Huh? Carcinicoe. Kachinoakov. Kachinochankov. He's nice, bro. He's nice.

Great in transition can shoot the three. He played fearless. Get to the bucket. He didn't make no three tonight. But for the most part, he's been a great energy source for those guys, man. They play well together. They got some great, some good bigs

mixed in with these freshmen who kind of doing some heavy lifting unko. But they played a year was the point guard, bro. I don't even know if he was a leading score on the team. Maybe he was, but I didn't think he was the best player in the Big 12. That's just me personally.

But collectively as a team, I don't really see nobody beating Arizona. I ain't going to lie. It's going to be interesting to see what Michigan does with Tennessee tomorrow. We'll see what Yukon and Duke does. That's going to be a good one, boy. Yeah.

but Arizona looked good. They look good. Four guys played bad. Four guys in double figures. They did because, hey, Purdue is a disciplined team, Uncle and Ocho. They ain't,

you know, they ain't going to typically beat themselves. They had a few turnovers here and there, but for the most part, they played the right way. They play through their bigs, they point guards, play, make, score.

I mean, it was a tough game. Like you said, in that first half, Unk, I thought Purdue was going to run away with that thing. Yep, I did too. It was on locked in that second half.

fellas. They came out in that second half. It was like, ooh, damn. They started letting them threes go. They started crashing the boards and getting the second chance opportunity. I'm like, okay. Yeah. And you see once they got the lead, pretty soon you ain't seen number tail lights.

Nope. Everybody pitching in doing something. They're a great team collectively, bro. They're going to be tough to be. I ain't going to lie. They're going to be tough to beat. Illinois, going to their first final forces, 2005, when they were led by Darren Williams.

College basketball figured how to use their size to an advantage. The third-seat Elina out scored the ninth-seated

Iowa, 40 to 12 in the paint, and out rebounded them 38 to 21. Whoever says size doesn't matter. L.A. Illinois got,

that big 71 junior, they got down that that big boy in the paint playing around these perimeter guards that they got who can score.

You know, Keegan Waggman. Wagner, he's going to be a lottery pick, Uncle Joe, when this year's draft. Oh, he got busy today, Joe. Yeah, that's another freshman. That's another freshman stepping up, making plays, playing huge.

Guess who else stepped up, Joe? Who? Sto Yonovic. There he go. Yeah. You know what? He might come out, too, Arkansas, Ojo. He might.

He might. He played well. He played well. I mean, super efficient. You know, we look at his dad because his dad was such a great three-point show. He can do the, but this boy, he'll get to the rack. Okay, Joe, he didn't even shoot no three tonight.

No, he was seven, yeah, he had 17 points. He was seven for nine. Yeah, he did that off the bench too, Uncle Joe. Yeah. He been doing that, he been doing that all year, though. I ain't gonna lie to you, I don't see Illinois play a few times. He been doing that all year. He been doing that all year.

Illinois's got a great chance. Yeah, you got them big boys in the paint who know how to play, and ain't gonna take no board drive down there. You got you a few guards who, can get to that chicken. Yeah. And you got, you got a chance.

Hey, the line up, man, they look, hey, they look good. I will hung around as long as they could. Yeah,

they did. They really needed their guards to, like, play above their head. Yeah. Yeah. Sturt's played well.

I mean, I mean, he did what he did. He does what he normally does. He does, he did what he was supposed to do. Yeah. And, hell,

I don't think, I don't think he's, He's been off the court. I think he's played all 40 minutes down there all games. Yeah. Yeah, nah, he did. Shit he had to. What we, what we saving you for?

Yeah, you're going to have a whole week of rest if we can win. Hey. But yeah, they guards. They had to get something from your guards, bro. At this juncture, you know, the tournament, you've got to have some guys who you can lean on perimeter-wise, but you also need some good bigs, you know, who gritty tough and can get you some chippies around the basket.

Right. Illinois is ready, man. They ready for the next round, fellas. They might be who they got next, huh? They don't play Arizona, do they? No. Yeah, we got to. Yeah.

Either way, that's going to be hell. Either way, whoever they got to play out of them two is going to be held, what? Man. Yeah. Because they on the, yeah. Yeah. O'Con. And then the winner of,

uh, who's the, uh, out here at the bottom. I will state. in Michigan. Ocho, you had Arizona win. You got Arizona winning. Go ahead.

Hey, hey, hey, hey. Hey, you know my bracket. My bracket's still intact, baby. I told you. I told you. Hey, I ain't going to lie to you, Ocho, you do for a win, bro. You do for one.

You do for one. Don't do me like that, Joe. Don't do me like that, Joe. You do for one. You do. What we're talking about? Look at my bracket, Joe. Huh?

What we talk about? This is what I do, Joe. So you need, you need. Hey, Joe, you might have played the game of basketball, but when it come to pick and winners, that's what I do, Joe. I've been a winner all my life. See, that's why we can't never let it win. I don't know who worse.

I don't know who works, Ocho or Joe. What? Come on, man. Come on. I don't brag. I don't brag. Y'all don't make fun of me. Talk about I picked mask.

Man, holl about him. He'll brag, but he just got through gloating. He went with all animals. I don't think of them to win, man. Hey, he picked all animals. He got to wildcats. He got hooked you to me. You got an animal of your name.

That's Ocho T. That's what he did. That's what he did. See, how y'all know some of the things, y'all don't say hurt me? How you know it don't hurt me inside? Dang, your break it, bust it too, huh?

Oh, yeah, my break it. I'm done. I'm done. Hey, y'all need to just follow my lead from now on. Your Ocho still got Michigan. Hold on, but if Arizona, if Arizona lose, they next game.

I mean, what is? It's just a three-way tie-ins, huh? Nah, because he got Duke. He still got Duke. He got Duke going to the final four and he got Arizona going to the final four. Hey, hey, hey. So if one is going to go to the final four is open.

What you're talking about, boy? Hey, matter of fact, you know what I'm going to do, Joe? What's you going to do? I'm going to play a lotto, and I know I'm against the right numbers. And whatever I win, I'm going to split it with you. You would do that? Yeah, for y'all? Yeah.

Joe, you still got, oh, Joe, if Michigan, if Michigan goes, you need, you need what you call, but you basically, you need him to get knocked out. You only got one chance. He got two chances. What I need? You got to hope, you got to hope, you got to hope Duke in Arizona get knocked out.

That's really the only chance you got, you still got one team. You got Michigan going to the finals. Hey, hey, long as I got, long as I got a fighting chance. You hear me? As long as I got a chance, hey, you never know. Doc Rivers on the Bucks being eliminated from the playoffs, it's been disappointing, obviously, since I've been here.

I haven't had a healthy stretch, and it's been our key guys. It's been Yonis, it's been Dame. This year having only one quote, unquote star. Every other team has two or three. We needed help. We were thin, and all the talk and all the stuff probably didn't. didn't help either. Is that it?

Are those considered excuses? Yeah. Yeah, I mean, look, yeah, I think they... We made that decision to move Adrian Griffin, who was what, 42 and 13, something like that, Joe? Yeah. Yeah, he was doing a hell of a job. I know that. I think they were number what, one or two in the east of the time.

Uh-huh? Yeah. Yeah. I don't know, man. I don't know. What, what they're saying? They're getting rid of Doc? Look, ever since the uncertainty with Janus,

for the last couple of years, if Yon is going as he's staying, they got rid of a lot of their roster to get Dane. They gave up a lot to get Dane. That didn't pan out. Dame was back in Portland. Yonnes is going to get traded this offseason. I believe so too.

It's going to happen. I believe so too. It's going to happen. He's not going to sign the extension, and they're not going to let, let, let, him going to that last year on that and walk for nothing absolutely foolish to do that so he's going to get moved and what do you have well you're going to have to hope you trade for some something something that's uh i don't know if you can get equal value for him no but never if you you know

you're making you you can get some some good compensation for sure but in order to get good compensation you're probably going to have to trade him to where he doesn't want to go. Whoa. That would just keep up. You know, Joe, the team, everybody knows what? You got to trade him. They know you're not going to let this contract,

the ink on this contract dry and let it walk out the door for free. Yeah. You're not going to have an okay C situation. What happened with Kevin Durant? Kevin Durant walked out of the door and you got nothing. Yeah.

Yeah. And so you got to trade it. Where he wants to be traded probably doesn't have the compensation or the players that you would want to try to rebuild this. I don't know. I think about when they traded Kareem, you know how long it was before they fielded the contender? A long-ass time.

Because it's hard to get free agents in Milwaukee. Yeah. You got the draft really well. They did a good job. Yep. I agree. I don't, honestly, and I like Doc, I just don't know how he holds on to this.

Especially if they, if they, they're eliminated from the postseason. They're done. Yeah, especially, I'm saying, but with that being said, especially if they get rid of Janus, I can't, I can't see, I can't see Doc staying neither.

I ain't going to lie to you. Because he went over there with... I was trying to figure out, Joe, what made them do what they did? They had to have a consort of Janice on this. Ain't no way. Oh, yeah. It might have been him. Him and a head coach.

Maybe they were... Maybe. Maybe. And I think they brought Doc in there to be able to deal with Dame and Janus, you know, two great talents to try and give them the mesh, you know, similar to what he did with KG, Paul Pierce, and Ray Allen. I think they brought him in him in. for those reasons, thinking that he could get him over the hump.

And they just got bogged down with injuries, bro, and never reached their potential. Damn, that's messed up. Yeah, so they wanted to have closed, for sure. You know, the wheels came off, the moment Dame got hurt, and they bought Dame out of that contract. Yeah. It was over. Because look at the compensation that you gave up to get Dame. Now, you're saying, you know what?

It failed. Fans and Milwaukee fans, we failed you. Yeah, because you pay Miles Turner with $108 million and talking about you only got one star. Well, you just pay somebody $108 million to come help him. And he wasn't what you thought he would be. No. And I don't know what he thought he was going to,

what was going to happen when he went there. I don't know, maybe he was frustrated with his role in Indy. I don't know, Joe. Maybe he thought, Dame, with Dame there, you know, Janice, I can anchor the defense, get some easy buckets because they're going to load up to stop Janice and load up to that Dame,

but I'm going to be working some one-on-one. And he can, I think, and he was thinking more of, you know, you look at Janice, who you know is a downhill demon. He's going to get downhill. He going to create habit. And if I'm a center, if I'm Miles Turner, where I'm going to be.

I'm going to be spotted up at that three-point line. I'm going to keep the floor space. They paying me to keep this floor space, keep these dudes honest and lay yonnes work. And it just haven't been the case, bro. And that's the thing when you sign with free agency. You never know. You don't, man.

I mean, when they broke that team up, well, what really happened is Chris Middleton got hurt. Once Chris Middleton hurt that knee, he was never the same, you know. No. He was never the same. It took him a couple of years and then they ended up moving on. He wasn't the same.

Then let Holiday go. They thought they could, you know, fix it with Kuzma and some other pieces Gary Trent Jr. And it just, it didn't work. It did. I like Bobby Porter's off the bench, but it just didn't work.

Yeah. No, I think Bobby, Bobby's been giving him great minutes. Even because when them guys sit out and he start, he's going to get you 20 and 10. You know, I think he's a great asset to have on the bench, coming off the bench, he'll probably, because he still got some great value,

he'll probably get moved too, but it's unfortunate, bro. They're probably going to start all the way from scratch, Joe. Yeah, that's what I'm figuring. They're going to strip it down, strip it down to the foundation, and try to build this thing back up. Hey, Uncle, Joe, they're going to do the same thing

the Dolphins doing, you hear me? What do you mean? It's strip it down. Stripping down to the bottom. I told you what Yonis was going, right? So we know what that destination is going to be. You think he's still going to Miami? Joe, I don't sat in the meeting, Joe, I'm telling you.

Now, when you saw the reports about it happening and you saw the reports, where there's smoke, there's fire. That's how I be telling y'all, I know what I'd be talking about. It just wasn't able to happen. But when the off-season come and it happened, like, man, Ocho, you was right. You know, my eyes and my ears to everything sports related in Florida now. So what's going to happen with Jai? Hey, you know what?

Hey, what's wrong with Young Bull? It's time to get out of Memphis. Hey, hey, what's wrong with Young Bull over there in Memphis? They even gave up everything. Everything they had around them that was worth something. Oh, Joe, they gave them. They traded Desmond Bain. They traded John.

I mean, look, they got, think about what, they got four first for Desmond Bain. I think they got two or three ones for triple J. Yeah, you gave up, Booker, like you gave up all your muscle. I mean, man, what you, what you're looking for now? And so now I just don't know. I mean, John's going to have to do things differently. What you mean about, what you mean by that, huh? How he conducts himself off the court.

So you mean, you think he's still going to be there? It doesn't matter where he goes. He's still going to have to conduct himself differently than what he did. Memphis. Oh yeah, yeah, most definitely, most definitely. But I think conducting himself and when it comes when it comes to going to the right environment, you know, going over to that prison, that, that prison over there in Miami, which is like playing for beer Belichick, you hear me? In basketball terms, the closest thing to the Patriots and Bill Belichick, the Patriot way is the Miami Heat. Yeah, Ocho. If you got some discipline,

it won't even affect you, bro. Like, it's just a way of life. You know what I mean? Like, yeah, they expect you to work hard, but if you're a disciplined guy, you know, who don't mind doing a little work, you know what I mean? Like, it ain't going to affect you.

Trust me, I've been in the system, bro. It ain't going to affect you. But if work ain't first and foremost in your life, partner, then, yeah, it's going to be a problem. Yeah. We're going to get him right. Hey, hey, Joe, he need to get an NBA career back on track. I hope so.

You got to, man. The man got the hottest shoe. He got one of the hottest shoes out. Yep. And you can't, I mean, you're not even playing. And just imagine. Just imagine, Joe, what he could be. With that engine that is Nike behind you.

Yeah. They had him projected right now as we speak. He's supposed to be top three point guard in the league right now, if not the best. That's what he's supposed to be right now. Yeah. See, he need to hang brown somebody like me, Joe. Why is that?

Listen, I'm only talking about on the point of the discipline and always want to work, Joe. Okay, okay. I know I play around and make jokes a lot. I'm talking about serious. Yeah. When it comes to that discipline and stuff and locking in on doing something, I don't play like that, Joe.

Yeah, I got you. I got you. Think about what he was before he started doing all these shenanigans. he's an all-star all-N-BA a sight to see you hear me hey that's why I'm gonna Joe he was a sight to see

I don't even watch basketball but there are certain individuals that will force me to turn a game on because it's something to see it's exciting because you don't know what's going to happen a player like job is unpredictable in the game

I'm not talking about I'm not talking about the annex I'm talking about what he doing that goddamn court yeah yeah is another one. Off the court started impacting the old court. Yeah, it gets in the way.

Ant man is another one. Ain't no telling what the hell he going to do on the court. Hey. But that's why when these guys first come into the league, you always see these great flashes because, one, like we all know, because we all been there our first time playing the professional, playing in the pros,

you so damn nervous and scared that you're like, I'm going to do whatever I got to do to be able to shine out here. Like, I'm going to work my butt off. You know what I mean? Like your work ethic is through the roof when you first get to the league, bro. But once you figure the system out, Arcoo, and you know how to manipulate it a little bit, you stop working as hard, you know what I mean? Because things became a little easy.

Your confidence through the roof and you know can't nobody stay in front of you, I think the work tends to suffer a little bit because you're starting to get, you're getting all these sponsors from all these different people, and you got all these obligations that you got to meet. but you got to always keep the work in the forefront and don't forget the main thing, the main thing. Man, you can never forget how you got there, bro. To be able to sustain and stick around for a long time,

you can never forget how you got there. You remember as a kid, hell, I know, I ain't going to lie. When I was 7, 8 years old, I was wishing I could play in the NBA. So from that point on until I was 20 years old when I got drafted, that's how long I had been working. Oh, Joe, I tell guys all the time. I say, bro, you're a football player. No, I'm with this.

Okay, when they take football to play, take football away, when last time you heard from a mocho? Yeah, that's a good. No, but you said, no, no, no, no, no. That's not what you said. You said you was this, this, and this and this. Now football's gone.

I ain't seen nothing. Yeah. Keep the main thing, the main thing. Yes, sir. Use football to do all these other things. There will come a time that you'll leave the game or the game will leave you. But then you can act the food.

Do whatever you want to do. But don't lose sight of who and what you are. You are a football player. Don't you let these people get, hey, don't you listen to the street committee on this social media tell you that you something else. When they take that away, when they take basketball away,

when they take football away, what they do it? Yeah. On to the next. Bro, you, everything is right there for you. Right there for you. And look, at some point in time, look, we got a whole, we got to hold the individual responsible. Because I had a great conversation.

I had Michael Vick, I had Michael Vick on the pod. And you know, when he worked at Fox, I did, we talked to him and I was like, Mike, it wasn't nobody around you that could tell you. He's like, oh, everybody that was around me was doing with exactly what was I doing. Hello.

So how was they going to tell me to stop? And then why would I listen to them? Right. So if you don't have, you don't have a voice or reason in your ear because here's the thing, Ocho, you know this, Joe, you know this. I'm not going to be the one

because I'm not going to have you stop the bus and ask me to get off because I've tried to have you do right. I'm going to let you do wrong so you keep me on this damn bus. Yeah, yeah. That's one of the problems, huh? Everybody entourage, Joe. Everybody entourage.

Yeah. Too many yes men. Yes. They're always going to be somebody that got to be the brains. You've got to. If we have an entourage, we have a group of people,

we've been around since yay high, whatever. Now you've made it. Now you're the golden goose. You're the golden egg. Yes. You got to protect. You got to protect the life.

Somebody got to be the brains. If the golden goose ain't going to have the brains, somebody else has to be the thinking for them. Right. They don't be thinking, man. So, hey, you got to have somebody or multiple people that tell you what you need to know and not what you want to hear.

Because a lot of times people are, you right, John, man, you be you. You got, you got this far being you. Yeah, I can be me. Why would you even want to? You work your entire life to get your family out of that, getting out of the projects or getting out of that single family, and there's nothing wrong with that. But ain't nobody says, you know what,

I want to be a professional athlete and still stay in the environment. and the circumstances that I grew up in. Nobody says that. So don't get me wrong because I know y'all going to flip it. Man, make it seem like there's something wrong with the projects. I'm not saying that. But you work your ass off for a reason to leave those situations

only to have the same mentality that you had when you was in that situation. Yeah. Shouldn't you want to change? Yeah, I would hope so. If you think about it, guys, you make it out of there. What do you do? You get you a nice car. you get you a nice, you don't drive that same type of car

that you had when you was growing up. Hello. Hub caps missing, mismatched tires. Yeah. I think he's phenomenal. And I had an opportunity guy, y'all know, look, I saw him play several times. I've been to a lot of Laker Memphis games.

I think we all know that. Yeah. He's phenomenal. Yeah. He's phenomenal. He is, bro. He just needs some. leadership, some guidance to say, bro, enough is enough.

You didn't have your three-year run where you did everything that you wanted to do. Lock in. Lock in. Bring it on home now. Come on home. I think, boy, I think he'll thrive. I ain't going to lie to y'all. I think he'll thriving at Miami situation.

See, y'all talk to me, Joe. I'm saying because, you know, one thing about Pat Riley, he's going to have a real sit-down on one-on-one with him. You know what I mean? He'd do with everybody. Hell, he did with him. me. And it's going to be something in that meeting, bro, that you're going to be able to take and run with. And all you got to do is apply. If you apply, I promise you, the sky would

be the limit for this kid again, bro. Then, I don't know, I just feel like Memphis is ready to move on. I think John ready to move on, Joe. And to get in a new, they're clean house. And to get in a new environment, you know, it'll help in more ways than one. I want to see it, I want to see him make sale on your old Joe. I want to see John back out there throwing grenades covering his ears. I'm here for all that, man. I like the cool stuff. You know what I mean? I also like to see the guys who put in the work, though. You know, I love, I love me a hardworking cat, a dude who don't mind being there first and being their last, you know, getting, getting them shots, getting them shots up before practice. After practice, he in the weight room.

And that's why I say in Miami, bro, I never seen an environment like that. I'm talking about to where after the game, the whole team in the weight room. We all in that lifting weights. I'm talking about D-Wade, U-D, it don't matter, everybody in there. And that's the type of environment you want to be around. Like, the dudes weren't rushing up out of that Uncle Ocho to go to no club. I never went to the club when I played for the heat. Man, we worked so much, boy, I can't wait to go home and lay down. Man, I ain't my.

Joe, that's the thing. The club going to be there. The club going to be there. The club will be there when you're out in the league, too, and they're going to treat you different when you ain't that guy. Hey, Uncle, Joe, and one thing by that club in Miami, hey, Joe, you know, it don't, people don't show up until two, three in the morning. I know, hey, and they love the Miami Heat, Uncle, Ocho. Yes.

They love them heat players, boy. That's all you got, and that's the thing. Just, hey, when your best player is your hardest worker, you, oh, that's why you get a Kevin Durant. You get a Kobe. You get a Jordan. You get a Steph Curry. You get a LeBron. That's what you get.

You get shape. That's what you get. And then when you see these guys that maybe not as talented and they work their asses off, now you get a Tyreeze Maxie. Now you get Austin Reeves. Yeah. That's what you get.

Yeah. You see guys like, well, damn, where he come from? Yeah. He came for working his ass off. That's it. Head down. It's not that complicated. It's not.

But you know the ones. that work. It ain't complicated. It ain't complicated, but y'all know it's a lot of sacrifices that got to come with it. Meaning, listen, meaning if you ain't, hey, if you ain't got people around you who think like you, meaning like if you just got cats around you and they can't wait to 9, 10 o'clock come to ask you if we're going to the club or not, man, please. You got to have some dudes who around you who want to work, who are going to hold you accountable and keep you in check, bro. Like, you got to have that. You know you got to have that. Um, I tell, look, and people go jump at the comment, man, everybody worked hard on their job for 40 years.

A lot of people work hard, work at their job and have no aspirations of moving up. I'm just here to collect this check. I'm good. Right. I'm talking about a guy. Greatness is boring. Go sit down and talk to any of the greats. I'm, I'm talking about an athlete's turn because I haven't, you know, I've met Jeff Bezos and have a conversation.

but we did not talk business. He wanted to talk sports. So we talk sports. Most of the time when those type of people come around, they don't want to talk about what they do. They want to talk about what you do. And how did you do what you did? And what was it like?

What was Elway like? What was TD like? What was Brady like? What paid man to mind? That's what they want to talk about. But when you talk about greatness, I wish, listen at him talk. Listen at Brady.

Listen at Brady when he talked about greatness and the sacrifices that he made and the monotony of it. Look at Serena. When she talked about greatness, and the sacrifice and the monotony and Tiger. And I know Tiger's going through what he's going through, but it's hard to deny.

Nobody had a peek like he had. No, no son. Look at LeBron. Look at Steph. Look at all the great. It is very monotonous because ain't nothing entertaining. Ain't nothing sexy by lifting iron and running yourself into exhaustion. And getting up, like Joe, say, 1,500 shots a day.

Ain't nothing sexy about that. Guess what? You do it over and over and over. and people tell me, man, you eat the same thing. That's boring. Shit. Some people do things over, insanity, Ocho is doing something over and over and hoping for a different result.

I did the same thing over and over hoping for the same result to be successful every time I stepped on the damn field. Yeah. Yeah. There's a sacrifice to be great. The greater the accomplishment, the greater the sacrifice must be to meet said accomplishment. There is no other way around it. It ain't brown.

You can't cut no corners. What do you want to be? Man, I want to be this. Okay, what are you willing to sacrifice to get that? If you're going to put what you want here, you've got to put what you're willing to sacrifice here because they go hand in hand. Yeah.

The greater the accomplishment, the greater the sacrifice. It's going to cost you some, it's probably, it might cost you a relationship or two. Yeah. It might cost you a friend or two. It will. might cost you a family member or two. Yes, sir.

But what is it that you want? Because you got to remember now when you was as a kid growing up, who was there? Who believed in you? I talked about this all the time from out of the high school.

I can go get my senior book and I can read what they said. Shannon, when you're rich and famous, don't forget me. Shannon, I know you're going to make it. That's all I talked about. Yeah. all the time that I didn't go to the party are you from new country you boring you don't smoke you don't drink okay

you're right I don't but I don't know if that's going to help me get into college and when I got to college I don't know of smoking and drinking now I don't they don't get me wrong now hey George Clinton why must I chase the cat you're going to futuristic. You know what I'm saying? Hey, I did what I did. But homework, practice, working out, studying, I had to get it. I had to get it. Hey, the teacher give me two weeks to get an assignment in? Or I'm getting that thing done about three, four days. I ain't waiting to the last minute. I was not no last minute type of guy. There ain't nowhere around it, guys. I wish I could tell you. I wish I could tell you. I wish I, I wish I could tell you there's an easier way to success and to reach that,

but there's not. There's not. And you look at these guys and you hear stories. I've never seen Jordan work out. I've never seen any of these guys, but you hear stories. And I guarantee you this story sounds a lot similar, a lot like what you went through, Ocho, what I went through, Joe, what you went through. It's very similar.

It's not an accident. My brother tell our people all the time. You know what? It wasn't playing. It wasn't an accident that we both went there, but it wasn't planned either. Yeah. But what our grandfather and grandmother instilled in us,

the work ethic, the determination, to never quit, to never give up. I mean, man, I had all these, all these offers that go everywhere, a top player in the state of Georgia. Here I am Prop 48, man. Later, man, later for the year, let me kick it with my boys right here.

Nah, hell no. Somebody going to, hey, and I never forget, my coach David said, he said, son, if you good, they'll find you. They're going to find me in Savannah State. Yeah, yeah. Son, if you, he said, if you as good as I think you are, they're going to come see you.

They're going to come get you. That's all I needed. That's all I needed. Man, listen, it's been dudes drafted from D3 schools, man. If you're good. Langston, you're going. You went, tried to go here, tried to go there. One year at Oregon State.

That's all I needed. You know why? Because that's why God planned it. Yeah. Mm-hmm. See, what God planned for you, ain't kidding you out of school, being back,

I had to go back to Miami, going to Samo Juco. God had all that. So you know what? I'm going to see you all through. I'm going to test you. He said, I'm going to test you. Hey, hey, what did they say,

Auger Ocho? You make plans and guys sit there and laugh at you. Oh, yeah. Every time. Yeah. He already knew. He already knew. He already got it.

But, man, Jarl, you got too much talent, bro. You got too much talent. You're too good. And what's Jod? 28. I don't even know if he did. Is he 28? I'm going to say 27, 28.

I don't think he's that old. He 26. Oh, yeah. Point. Hey. Joe, the Sixth is big three are back on the block. Joel and B. 29.6 rebounds, two blocks.

PG, Paul George, 26 points, 13 rebounds, four steel. Tyrese Maxey, 26 points, 8 assists, 7 rebounds. Joe, if, Joelle and B. Tyrese Maxie, Paul George, PG-13. If they are healthy, can they make some noise in the east? Yeah, yeah, they can. Okay, Ocho.

Look, look, if Paul George and Joel NB going to give you this on a night-to-night basis because this ain't the first game they didn't play well since they haven't been back. I think this is their second game playing, but they both putting up great numbers shooting at a high efficiency rate, and they're controlling and affecting the game

on more than just scoring. I think, you know, their veteran presence mixed in with Maxie and Edgecom. them young, reckless abandon guards, man, they can beat anybody in the East. Because can't steal, can't nobody guard NB. No, hell no. If he can. No, no, nobody got no answer for them.

Not in the East. First of all, ain't nobody the NBA can guard it. East, west, north, south. I don't know if there's an ABA, the G League, ain't nobody can guard Joel and B. Nobody. He don't even have to be 100%. I think Philadelphia, because they'd be,

the hot Hornets team tonight in Charlotte. It ain't like Charlotte ain't been no slouch since February, probably since the first of February. They probably got one of the top records in the NBA. They've been playing great basketball, so to go in Charlotte and get a win, it tells me a lot.

If Embed and Paul George can fit in with these guys like this, hey man, we just got a new team that's entered the chat because, you know, we didn't count it a Philly out for so long since Tatum came back for the Celtics. We put them one, you know, cave been hurt, so we kind of dropped the

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