Club Shay Shay - Nightcap Hour 2: Isiah Thomas BACK to BEING MESSY about Michael Jordan + Wembanyama CAMPAIGNS for NBA MVP + Knicks LOSE 7 GAME WINNING STREAK + CONCERNED Boyfriend SEARCHES for his GIRL + Sweden Makes SEX a SPORT?!

Episode Date: March 27, 2026

Shannon Sharpe, Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson and Iso Joe Johnson react to Isiah Thomas saying that Kevin Durant could of won 6 NBA championships if took Michael Jordan place, the Knicks snap t...heir 7 game win streak after losing to the Hornets, and concerned boyfriend has been searching for his girlfriend via social media and much more! Subscribe to Nightcap presented by PrizePicks so you don’t miss out on any new drops! Download the PrizePicks app today and use code SHANNON to get $50 in lineups after you play your first $5 lineup! Visit https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/NI... 0:00 - Isiah Thomas being messy with KD/MJ Bulls hypothetical12:30 - Wemby gave a 3 part MVP campaign this weekend17:28 - Knicks lose 7 game winning streak18:50 - Mitchell Robinson should probably log off35:00 - Concerned boyfriend has been searching for his girlfriend via social media32:40 - Sweden makes headlines declaring sex as a sport38:25 - Q & Aaayyy (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:11 I wouldn't go that far, but I'm John Green. Co-host of the podcast The Away End with my old friend Daniel. On our podcast, The Away End, we'll share with you the magic of international football, all leading up to the 2026 World Cup. Together, we'll find out why, of all the unimportant things, football, soccer, is the most important. Listen to the away end with Daniel Alarcon and John Green on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Isaiah Thomas floated a wild hypothetical about what would have happened
Starting point is 00:02:41 if Kevin Durant, not Jordan, had been steering the ships for those iconic 1990s Chicago Bulls teams. I said, Kevin Durant, if you would have played back in our era, you would have put it in your triple post in mid-post area, and they would have took Michael Jordan out. You would have played Pippet. You'd have played with Cookew. he would have had six championships.
Starting point is 00:03:01 Absolutely. With all them around him, he gets the post up in the mid-ray. Yeah, I think you can do the same thing. Oh, no, he's saying if Jordan wasn't on the team and it was KD. He said if you replace Jordan with KD, they still win six championships. Hey, I have a question, Joe,
Starting point is 00:03:17 before you even answer Joe, can somebody please explain to me what's the issue with Isaiah Thomas and why he's always jabbing at Jordan? And Jordan never respond, but every few months- He always comes back at Jordan with some, with something, you know, I think Isaiah Thomas probably won the only cats who got a winning record against Michael Jordan. Okay, oh, Joe. It goes back to the dream team.
Starting point is 00:03:41 Yeah, it goes, well, yeah, him not being on. It's the dream team. Isaiah Thomas should have been on the dream team. No matter what you think, and it was a great team assembled. John Stockton was not better than Isaiah Thomas. Isaiah Thomas was a two-time champion at the time of the summer. election, Isaiah Thomas was a two-time champion and a finals MVP. That's an, and, and guess what?
Starting point is 00:04:06 He beat Magic in Magic's era. He beat Bird and Bird era. He, they ended. He ended the Big Three Celtics. The Pistons did. Nobody else did. He beat Magic and Kareem and Worthy. He did.
Starting point is 00:04:22 He beat Dennis Johnson, Larry Bird, Kevin McHale, Robert Parridge. Isaiah and the Pistons did that. He had earned the right to be on the 92 Dream Team. But, but when he walked out the court after Jordan them finally beat them in 91 and he didn't shake George's hand. Now mind you, if you go back and look, go back and look, you know where Isaiah and them got there from? Boston.
Starting point is 00:04:53 The Celtics walked out of the court and didn't shake the Pistons hand. Go back and look it up and nobody said a mofo word. Right. Go back and look it up. I'm old enough to remember. Hey, how many years has it been, uh? 92 Dream Team, so you look at it about 34 years.
Starting point is 00:05:12 34 years. Hey, Joe, I think maybe I'm tripping. I don't know. At some point, do we not get over that? No, not what? Because Isaiah said I missed that two times. I was supposed to be on the 80 team. Right.
Starting point is 00:05:26 Guess what? They boycotted Soviet because the Soviets invaded Afghanistan. So in 1980, America didn't send anybody to Moscow. So 94, 84, Jordan was already in the league so he couldn't play. You got to realize Jordan got drafted and still got played because he hadn't played a professional game yet. So Jordan played in the 84 Olympics after already being drafted. Yeah. So now he said this is my one last final chance.
Starting point is 00:05:55 Right. To get this, I'm an NCAA champion. I'm an NBA champion. I'm a finals MVP. I'm going to be a Hall of Fame. I had Azeo on the show. I like Isaiah. I don't know if anybody that knows him,
Starting point is 00:06:12 but if you be around him, he is so engaging. He is, I mean, he loves sports. He'll talk any sport with you. Football, basketball, obviously he played at a U.S. He's a top 75. He was a top 50 player. Real brother, too. He looks at it like, this man kept me off
Starting point is 00:06:29 the dream team. Stark that was not better than I Zahel. I don't care what y'all say. I get it. He played 100 years. He's the all-time assist leader. He's the all-time steals leader. He wasn't better than I-Zer.
Starting point is 00:06:42 I agree with you on that. But I still don't think that Jordan went to the USA Commission or whatever. It was like, man, look, the only way I play is if Isaiah Thomas is not playing. I don't think he did that. I think due to
Starting point is 00:06:55 the Pistons not shaking the Bulls' hand, obviously, they came right after that, right? That was their summer right after that, right? Yes. I think everybody who was over, like, USA, I think they kind of seen and kind of just put it together. I think when they came to get Jordan's well wishes
Starting point is 00:07:14 to be able to play on the USA team, I think they may have brought it to him before he ever even said some about it. Well, there are reports out there. I don't know if it's true, but I think Sam Smith wrote it in his book. That's what we reported. said he would play, but you know who couldn't.
Starting point is 00:07:33 So I don't know if that's true. I wasn't there. I just, what is, what is true, what isn't true? Isaiah believed that to be true. And you know sometimes perception is reality, guys. It might not be true, but your perception, that's your reality. You know what makes it even worse is the fact that he won't respond. Rejoin doesn't say anything.
Starting point is 00:07:58 He doesn't talk about the. issues and I mean so that that makes it even worse and at least everybody pondering on what really did happen or what really I mean it's crazy that Jordan has said nothing I think at some point I'm not sure when he's gonna sit down no no no no ain't not no ain't not not they mayn't over there run them nash car cars he ain't saying y'all talking about some of um even if he didn't have nothing going on that ain't who Jordan is talking he ain't never going to never talk about that you know how Jordan is yeah you just never speak to you again that's it No. That's it. He ain't going, he ain't going to go back and forth and get into the media.
Starting point is 00:08:35 Bro, do you know how much NBC probably had to pay that man just to get to sit down and do those two, three interviews that he did with my kids. Lydium. It's estimated 40 million for three interviews, Ocho. Dang. That's what it's estimated. I don't know, but that's what people threw out there. But I tell you what, it wasn't cheap. No, of course.
Starting point is 00:08:55 He don't, he don't talk. He don't care to talk. Yeah. he talked at an obligation. If you go back and look at it, when he normally talked, he talked to Ahmad. Yeah, that was his guy.
Starting point is 00:09:06 Yeah. When NBC had the rights, he normally sat down and talk to Amar. Yeah, he would go to the podium. You know, he understood that. But he didn't do a whole lot of stuff. I think maybe one or two times he might have talked to Peter Vessi. I'm not really sure because it's a while,
Starting point is 00:09:20 but I know normally when they did an interview, it was Ahmad sitting down with Jordan, especially, especially when it came to maybe All-Star and NBA finals. Yeah. Amma was his boy. Yes. Yes.
Starting point is 00:09:36 Well, hell, that means, Joel was probably one of the first players who had that kind of power the way the players have power today. Yeah, they got to have power. Probably the only one had that kind of power while he was in the media, but he didn't have it on his own team.
Starting point is 00:09:49 Because Jared Krauss controlled everything. Well, you just said the reason that Isaiah wasn't able to play because Jordan probably didn't want a team. They knew they needed to. one guy. Yeah, it was great because you wanted to, you needed that one guy. Right. Yeah. You needed the logo. Yes,
Starting point is 00:10:05 sir. Yeah, it would be great that. You could have had all those other guys. Right. But you needed that one big joker. Yeah. Yes, sir. The star of the league, bro. Because you got to understand. Coming off his second NBA championship. Yeah. He's already
Starting point is 00:10:25 I think a two-time, three-time MVP. Yeah. defensive player of the year, he was the biggest thing going. And if you want to, if you want to go globally, you got to get the biggest starting with you. You got to be,
Starting point is 00:10:40 okay. Well, I know, 834 years later though, unk, God. I ain't going to let it go. If you know, Isaiah ain't letting it go.
Starting point is 00:10:50 Right. He's not. George is not going to respond. I bet I say, I say, I'm not trying to see, let it go, Zik. I'm like,
Starting point is 00:10:58 mm-mm. You say no, huh? Because, and the thing is, I could see if there was something that could be done. Nothing can be done. If we can be ran the hands of time guys and we go back and put out there, but it ain't nothing can be done. Nope. There's nothing.
Starting point is 00:11:18 Mm. I mean, I mean, imagine if, I mean, I don't know what the crowning achievement would have been like, but just to know that you deserve, you, you've earned the right. to be there. Right. So what does he want? Apology? That's what he said. I say, Isaiah. I say Z. ain't going to get. No, that ain't coming.
Starting point is 00:11:43 Hey, Joe, ain't no scenario you can see. What, Jordan coming out in the public? No. No. No. Absolutely not. Hell, I mean, you saw even Pimp is kind of taking some shots at Jordan. Man, look here.
Starting point is 00:12:01 Jordan in his own little. Jordan has gone to Pippin either. No, I don't think he's going to... I didn't know, I didn't know they, I thought they were close. Right. But for what I've been, what I've deduced and what I've heard is that they weren't really never close. Yeah, from listening to Pippin, yeah, he would make you think that. But, man, I just, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:12:26 I mean, Jordan was always giving him credit. Like, I could not have done what I did without him. You know, he's always giving him. Man, hey, listen, Uncle Ocho, if y'all notice, it ain't really too many guys that MJ played with on their Bulls team that really give him props, bro. They really talk highly of him. Like, they all kind of take little jabs at him, you know, saying that he was a tough guy to play with. He was a tough team, and he probably was all of that. But the man, he had the fire and desire, bro, to come out and compete night in and night out and put forth his best foot.
Starting point is 00:13:00 Like, he commanded that guys do the same. That's the thing. Like, I think a lot of these, well, not a lot. I think, you know, some of these dudes who are great, they try to get others to match what they're doing, Arcan Ocho, and other guys just can't reach that potential. That's why it's hard for great players to be great coaches. Because what you're thinking in your head,
Starting point is 00:13:22 you're trying to convey it to another guy, hopefully he can see it the way you see it. And it just happened like that. They don't see it that way. No, that's why most of your great coaches are average players. Look at Coach Belichette. Look at the really great coaches. Right.
Starting point is 00:13:40 Steve Kirk got for, Steve was not a, I mean, he was a role player. Did it job well. Look at Phil Jackson. Yeah. When you try to get, I mean, I think if,
Starting point is 00:13:52 you see Bill Russell, he won, he was a players coach. Casey Jones. Tom Heinson. Tom Heinson. well, they're a great player. People don't realize how great Tom Heistson was, Coach Milwaukee.
Starting point is 00:14:11 Lenny Wilkins, but for the most part, I mean, especially to modern players. Because back then, guys, guys listen. They make too much money now, Dave.
Starting point is 00:14:26 Hell, they ain't listening. They guys, they listen. They're talking back in their time. Yeah. What? That's why I think. But I'm, But I've said this, Ocho.
Starting point is 00:14:37 But I've had a conversation with, like I said, I had him on the pod many, many years ago, and I've been places where he was and had a conversation. He ain't letting it go. I'm just saying. So if you, if you expect him to let it go, he's not going to let it go, and Jordan ain't going to respond.
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Starting point is 00:17:56 What's up? I'm Miles Turner. And I'm Brianna Stewart. And our podcast, Game Recognized Game, has never been done before. Two active players giving you a real look at our lives and what we actually think, on and off the board. Nothing's off-liaments. We talk trade requests. What's the vibe of that when it's like your star player is like, well, I want to leave. And then actually now I'm going to stick.
Starting point is 00:18:18 We talk tanking. I mean, honestly, like, I might get in trouble for this answer, but I think it's like definitely happening in the WBA. And yeah, we talk about our mistakes too. They pulled me to the side and was like, hey, man, we got a call last night, man, you can't be rolling around the city like this tonight before games, no, you know, doing this, doing whatever. And of course, family stories. They'll be like, mommy, why did you miss that?
Starting point is 00:18:43 Mommy, do you play basketball? Check out game recognized game with Stoian Miles on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The MVP race, I believe I'm the most impactful player defensively in the league. You are. Second argument would be that we almost swept Casey this season and we dominated them three times with their real team. The third argument would be that offense impact is just not points.
Starting point is 00:19:12 Joe, do you agree with what Wembe has said and his reason for why he should be named? He has some points. He has some points. Okay, Ocho. I agree with him with the defense as, you know, 50% of the game. And obviously, nobody can match what he does defensively. I think the next step for him is to continue to evolve offensively. I don't know what he's averaging right now, I can Ocho, but it's probably what about
Starting point is 00:19:43 the 22, 23 game. I think he'll end up getting that up. And obviously, if San Antonio can continue to be dominant, I don't know if they can take over the number one spot from OKC over the next couple years, but, you know, they're trended in the right direction. I think he will eventually become MVP. He's the average in 24, 11 and 3. 24 points, 11
Starting point is 00:20:08 rebounds 3. The only thing is hard about the MVP because damn, you just can't discredit what Yolkish numbers is, bro. You can't discredit what Did you see Yolkish last night? Man, come on. Did I see it? 23, 21, and 19.
Starting point is 00:20:23 Like, I... 19. 19. 19. He had 19 assists. 21 rebounds, 23 points. Hey, hey, Joe, he'd be out there. Hey, you'd think you playing goddamn 2K, man, with the numbers he putting up. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:40 And San Antonio's two games back from the one seed. Oh, they two games back? I think he got a great argument, Ocho, but he ain't going to win it this year. He ain't going to win MVP this year. I thought we all thought we all agree that SGA was going to win, though. I think SGA is going to win. I think so too, but I think the player that probably that has earned it the most based on value is Jalen Brown.
Starting point is 00:21:08 Yeah. Oh, is that simple? Who had Boston Celtics as the number two seed without Jason Tatum, trading prosengals, getting rid of a trading holiday, Al Horford leaving? Who had them in this spot? Nobody. Nobody. You're right, huh? You're right.
Starting point is 00:21:27 Jalen Brown has a definitely compelling argument. he's averaging 20 i think 28 6 and 5 he's playing out of his damn mind i just i just i know they're going to give it to shay considering that they're the number one team in the NBA still they have the best record and what if they don't have the best record what if san antonio overtakes them
Starting point is 00:21:53 with what we got about eight by nine games left I think we got 10 to 12. I just don't see them lose. I don't see them dropping two in a row or two games. I can't see San Antonio Kitchen. Because they don't play them no more. No, they beat them three out of four. So I don't see y'all.
Starting point is 00:22:18 I don't see. I mean, he ain't the leading score in the NBA, but he's probably second. How many games they got left? 11. What they got? Nine. Nine.
Starting point is 00:22:34 Oh, nine? Yep. Oh, yeah. It's going to be very, very interesting. Back to back. I mean, I hate that, that, that, that Cade got hurt and going to miss that 65 game cutoff. Hold on. I thought, I thought he could miss like, like five or six games.
Starting point is 00:22:55 He got to hear, you got to come back. But do you rush him back and probably, and potentially set him back? Yeah, you got to put some padding on that, on that rib cage or something. We try to get, hey, hey, we. We're trying to sign. Hey, next country, we're trying to sign for the $3.40, man. He just signed $2.94. He's good.
Starting point is 00:23:16 Yeah, he good. Now, see, you got to look at it from a standpoint. You got your appetizer. Then you got your entree. Then you won't come back for a little dessert. You know what I'm talking about? Yeah. Oh, he'll be back.
Starting point is 00:23:28 I mean, he can't be the more than 24. You trying to hit him across the head twice? Many times you can. Yeah. Yeah. Boy getting A boy getting to that money, boy. What did you talk about?
Starting point is 00:23:48 That man going to sign another contract for $300. He just signed for $2.90 or something. Yeah. Yeah. But Nix just lost their seven-game winning streak and Mitchell Robinson is not happy. Following the disappointing performance, Robinson took the Instagram to voice his frustration saying,
Starting point is 00:24:07 don't even matter unless we change our approach. We ain't doing it special. Keep that bull jive up. myself included Hey look Joe what's he saying Mitchell Robinson he may be feeling the way
Starting point is 00:24:20 he played 26 minutes 4.6 rebound but man get Charlotte credit Ocho them boys no Charlotte been balling man they didn't shoot the lights at the ball let me tell you something let me tell you something
Starting point is 00:24:31 Charlotte is a scary team right now they are playing great I watched a lot of this game tonight I love C Cinepple the way he plays he had 26 and 11 the night um you got brandon miller who had 21 you got lemello who had 22 and miles bridge is 17 i like how they play they got great chemistry unc and ocho i'm talking about they play together they play the right way and they got guys who are just flat out bawling bro like they can beat
Starting point is 00:25:04 anybody right now in the east they can beat anybody they shoot the three ball they made 20s didn't make 26 threes the other night. They damn near make 15 to 20 a night. You're talking about they shoot the three, but I'm talking about they shooting the leather off that thing. You hear me? Yes. I'm talking about, I'm talking about, man. Look, I was so impressed watching the night.
Starting point is 00:25:26 Just the threes that Cinnipa were taking. He was six for ten from the three, but he was taking some deep threes, Uncle Ocho. And Lamello out there just playing quarterback, just fine the guys. Man, that joke, I ain't never seen nobody shoot that many one leg, step back threes. He got the most unorthy.
Starting point is 00:25:42 game in the NBA. I'm talking about it's unauthorized. I'm not watching play. I'm like, how is this stuff even going in? But they look good, bro. They look like they postseason ready. They ready to get somebody some trouble.
Starting point is 00:25:57 I think they will. I think they're going to get, what do they, they look like they're going to probably be in the playing. You think so? Yeah, yeah, they're going to probably be in the play. They might surprise somebody too now. I guess, I guess with Mitchell Robinson.
Starting point is 00:26:12 Okay, Ocho, I think it's the defensive end that he's talking about. You know, they're giving up a lot of points. And, you know, if you want to compete in this league, especially in the NBA, man, you got to be able to guard. But I'm going to tell you y'all something. Charlotte, they're not playing, bro. They, they hard to guard.
Starting point is 00:26:28 They got a lot of guys who can go off the bounce, create plays, score that ball. I'm telling my man, they're a fun team to watch now. You know, they used to be a doormat. You know, you go on the Charlotte, oh, you're like, oh, yeah, yeah. You take that off as a win. We can go hang out tonight. We got Charlotte tomorrow. We're going to be good.
Starting point is 00:26:44 We're going to run these boys in the ground. man, please. Nah. You better have your track shoes on. Hey, and you look at the guys they got, they got four, they got four guys that can shoot the three ball, and then they got Kobe White,
Starting point is 00:26:57 they picked up from Chicago coming up. I'm talking about, in Ocho. I'm talking about he ain't nothing to be playing with, okay, Ocho. No, man. Oh, I saw him get a 40 ball to the Lakers last year. Mm-hmm. Hey, that was probably the biggest pickup
Starting point is 00:27:11 that they had, Jacoby White. Kobe White. Like, he, I don't know if it's, because he's back in North Carolina because, you know, he played it. He played at UNC. But, boy, look, he showed comfortable in that hornet's uniform. I tell you that. Yep.
Starting point is 00:27:27 Joe, who you got for rookie of the year? Cooper Flagg. I like Connapple, bro. I think Flagg, his points. I think Cooper Flag got, I think his points are better because, you know, they force feed him. Okay, Ojo, but Cinnipple, if you watch him play, nothing's force. everything looks like it comes to him easy he takes shots within the offense like he just out there hooping bro i like conniffle man i like i ain't gonna like i do too hell he looks like he might have
Starting point is 00:27:57 three hundred threes this year how many threes he's a made because he's already got the rookie record man i don't know how many he'd made but i'm talking about he looked good boy i'm talking about joe he got to be like 260 two 70 easy easy man had 26 points and so he had 256 26, 252. I'm talking about it's quick, too. He gets that thing off quick. Who you got for a rookie year? You're going.
Starting point is 00:28:27 I think they won't flag. You know they won't flag. But why not Duke? Hey, but listen to this, okay, Ocho. Why not Duke? Would you give him cold like you did Grand Hill and Jay? They two ex-teammates from Duke. You know, just Duke.
Starting point is 00:28:41 Duke Duke, Duke, Duke co-rooky of the year. Because Kinnip would, he definitely worthy of it. Oh, yeah, for sure. And he got a better, and they got a better record than the match. Yeah, they're going to be in the play here. They can possibly make the playoff. Yeah, they're already in the play. Yeah, I agree.
Starting point is 00:29:00 They got nine games to go, Joe. And what are they in now? And he has 253. They have nine games left, and he has two. He has 253 made threes. And where they are? They're in like the 10 spot, huh, nine spot? Then eighth.
Starting point is 00:29:16 And they're tied for eight. Yeah. Yeah, man, do co-rooky at a year. You know, I'm sure them dudes are good friends. They enjoy it. They enjoy it. Joe, they two games back are from the fifth seed. So they could make the playoffs.
Starting point is 00:29:39 Forget play in. They can be in the playoffs. They're playing good, bro. They play great. I'm talking about they fun to watch now. Like usually, I don't even tune in to watch the, the hornet, but he Man, what Mitchell Robinson doing?
Starting point is 00:29:54 What he do, man? This man got his toenail in his hand. You're talking about, I'm going to keep it. I'm going to sign a toenail. Y'all have had a toenail come out? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, the big toe from stopping the start. You play in front of it.
Starting point is 00:30:18 If you play any sports, boy, you didn't have a toenail come out. Oh, yeah. And all the people don't step on you. with them seven studs. Ah. It cold, man, I shoved the issue out of something. God dang.
Starting point is 00:30:30 Hey, it hurt different. These my feet, they made for, I made the walk on them, not you. I don't think that passed the pain. Boy, people would not understand. Having somebody step on your foot with seven toes, huh? The seven toes, you mean. That seven toes.
Starting point is 00:30:48 Or you, at you at home and you get up and your pinky toe hit the corner of the wall. Kick that bed. But you all? Man, you get mad, get it. I get mad, wake up. How you put the bed, how you put the bed right here? Hey, that's, eh, it'll bring tizzy eyes, boy.
Starting point is 00:31:07 Hey, man, I'm gonna move. We're gonna move on past this story here. Hey, Joe, Ocho, check this out. A concerned boyfriend has been tweeting and searching for his girlfriend since she left to Houston. My girl's- Whoa, she left the- Oh, man.
Starting point is 00:31:28 She's in Houston. Oh, yeah. Check this out. He tweeted, uh, my girl's still in Houston. Bro, my girl's still in Houston.
Starting point is 00:31:35 All the flights out of Houston delayed, it's not funny anymore. This B still in Houston. Hey, might be chalk that one up, baby. Yeah. Somebody about,
Starting point is 00:31:47 got. Hey, chalked that one up. My, hey, my girl. The word my, it sounds like ownership to me. Hey,
Starting point is 00:31:54 and she answering her phone neither or a text message. Well, you got, You got to come to social media to look for her. You know what going on. Well, she already knows. What's going on, Ocho? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:32:05 I know one thing. I don't chase after no adit expense. Oh, what's going on? She answering the phone, text message. Hey, you don't tell me. I ain't seen you call. For five days? Man, they know.
Starting point is 00:32:23 Hey, they'll shoot a quick mic. Man, you know, my phone. My phone died. They'll tell you all. So for five days. Oh, hold on. They got the, they got a new one now too now. What is they? It was though it was on do not disturb. Yeah. Oh, or airplane mode. Hey, hey, hey. So let me ask your question. So how the kids get in touch with you? So you ain't told your kids in five days? Oh, man. Hey, I'm talking. Hey, hey, hey, oh, buddy, man, go on chunk of the deucees, bro. Now, look, she's going to come back. Now, if you take her back, that's going to be all on you.
Starting point is 00:32:58 You hear me? Yeah, that's on you. Man. Look at that thing wide open over there. Probably when she get back, that thing will be like a skateboarding the airplane hanger. I just said, oh, George, I just said, man, she'd been going that long.
Starting point is 00:33:19 Hey, boy, listen. But I tell you what thing, I ain't going on social media to look for anything with my dog. Ain't got you. check this out, man. Titus got out. Where Titus ain't going to get out. I got to keep eye on here because Tyndon go if somebody on.
Starting point is 00:33:34 But, but Teddy Bear and Thanos, yeah, hey, guys. Hey, man, can somebody find my dog, man, I play a night reward. I ain't getting on no damn social media and talk about my girl, man, please. Damn.
Starting point is 00:33:53 Hey, my, John, Joe, the game is the game, now. Hello. The game has always been the same, the game has never been felt. I love you. But the better you learn to play it, the better off you're going to be.
Starting point is 00:34:05 Man. Boy, I can just, boy, look at it, hey, oh, if it rang it, okay,
Starting point is 00:34:15 there's a chair, but with that thing, the person that you call does not have voice. Hey, hold on. Hey, what if you text
Starting point is 00:34:27 and instead of being blue is green? Yeah, but yeah, she's got to do that disturb on everything. Yeah. Yeah, that's that hurt, boy. And then everything started playing in your mind on what you could be doing.
Starting point is 00:34:42 Yeah, because you can answer in. You remember when. You got, hey, you got chalk it up to the game, bro. Hey, hey, hey, you remember wean. Yeah. I was there in them nights. That phone kept ringing. Hello.
Starting point is 00:35:04 Huh? We are eight. Man, you on the ultra, I'd have been siding the hall many times. Hey, talk. Yeah. So he can stop calling so I could do what I need to do. I can't concentrate. He's blowing, you know, I can't.
Starting point is 00:35:17 Hey. They can't concentrate, huh? If you stop calling, I can do what I need to do. That's a cold game, boy. Hey, oh, hey, Joe, it's been a cold game. It's been a cold game, especially when you've been, when you've been to two, Stan, you know, when you're the two for a very long time, you're very hesitant to want to be,
Starting point is 00:35:37 one when you understand how cold. Yeah, bad. It's a cold game. You don't want the attachment, man. You just, you know, you ever going to have a little fun and, you know, stick and move, stick it move, you know. That's it. Hey, no response.
Starting point is 00:35:52 Hey, Uncle Joe, no responsibility? You mean I ain't got to deal with no head? Hello. Yeah. I ain't got to deal with the nagging. Man. Nah, I don't, listen, once upon a time, once upon a time, guy, you got to talk about that.
Starting point is 00:36:06 Me, I'm talking about. situation when I was in my 20s. Now when I was 20, I threw caution to the wind. I ain't mess with nobody that was married. If you told me you was married, I'm good. You good? You good? Be neither, man.
Starting point is 00:36:18 Because I know, I know, I know how married. I know how if I was married and somebody came up in the house, I deemed that disrespectful. So if I came up in there, all best off. But they're fine on you. Yeah. So I, so I ain't going to mess nobody married. Now, just be up front.
Starting point is 00:36:35 You see it. Let me make a deceit. Let me make a decision. Let me say, okay, I want to deal with this situation or I don't. But don't get me and then all of a sudden you could. You hear that knock at the door? No, I go to the bathroom. I go to the bathroom, you know, I peeped around the corner and you're on the phone.
Starting point is 00:36:54 You ain't talking to your kids because you talk to your kids in front of me. What you do? You out with your girls. And then you see me coming. Bye. Oh, no. Okay. I already know what time it is.
Starting point is 00:37:09 Okay, what you just be, just keep it up. You need nothing. I ain't going to say, you know, I might be, you know, because I don't want somebody, somebody coming up to me. You know, I'd be like, nah, man, you know, I wouldn't do no mess like that, bro. We just, we just, we just free years. How long have you been knowing her?
Starting point is 00:37:29 Man, I ain't probably like seven inches ago. Oh, my bad, my bad, I'd be seven years. Seven years. Come on, fella. Come on, come on, come on. Come on. Come on, I'm sorry, Joe. Joe.
Starting point is 00:37:40 Oh, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Seven years. Seven years, bro. Hey. Man, I'm going to hell. I'm going to hell. I'm going to hell.
Starting point is 00:37:50 I'm going to hell. I'm sorry. I meant seven years ago. Hey, we can laugh now because we've been able to experience it. There's some is not going to be funny. But when you live long enough, You get it. Yes.
Starting point is 00:38:11 You get it. Everybody, everybody doesn't got God. I don't care who you are. Yeah, oh, everybody. The sad thing is that the player is talking about he ain't never been got. He's the one that's been got to know us. Because he's not even enough to believe that he haven't.
Starting point is 00:38:29 He just don't know it. Sometime you to get him. Sometimes you're the one who get gotten. Happens. Every time. No joke. Hey, sometimes you catch the touchdown on top of the guy's head. Sometimes he gets an interception.
Starting point is 00:38:50 Hey, the game is the game. Better me start. I was just joking y'all. Now, I see bad y'all. Hey, bad, Joe. Hey, Jay to Zah. Sweden had made headlines with an official declaration sex as a sport with plans already underway for a tournament.
Starting point is 00:39:13 The surprising move has sparked debates about the boundaries of what qualifies as a sport and how it challenges traditional views on both sexuality and athleticism. I like that. A sport? Yeah. I like that. Damn. I like that a lot because there's so many different ways it can happen.
Starting point is 00:39:34 There's so many different ways it can be done. You hear me? It can be a sport. because it's a skill set. When it comes to a sport, there are different sets in that skills, you know, different, the different skill sets in the sport that specifies who makes what? So why, why does Jason Tatum, you know, get a $300 million deal? Why does the sixth man come off the bench, not get as much?
Starting point is 00:40:01 Okay. Skill set, what they can do. No, the same thing happens in the sport that they talk about. Now, I can- That's going to be very interesting, though, Ocho. Yeah, I love it, too. This is right up my alley, huh? This is right up my alley. What you mean?
Starting point is 00:40:14 What you mean right up your alley? You're partaking this? No, I wouldn't partake. I won't partaking. I'm just saying it with great understanding. In that area, that's my area. The 20, I would. In your 20s, you would, oh?
Starting point is 00:40:28 Nah. Yeah. No, no, no. 24 second clock, go off. I'm gone. Hey, I tell you what, I bet that 24 second clock couldn't catch me. As a sport, bro, like that's going to do. I like that, I like that.
Starting point is 00:40:44 These countries, man, they go, I be, there, and this is what they're saying. What the way we used to look at sex and what we think, it was taboo. You couldn't talk about sex. No. They couldn't talk about, you couldn't talk about that and, you know, the, the, the, the, the, the,
Starting point is 00:41:04 I mean, there was, I mean, back then when I was a kid, you know, a kid, you know, Daisy Duke, you know, you had the Dukes or Hazard, and when Daisy Duke came out with his shorts, boy, that was a big old thing, man, do you know how, man, oh, man, well, you couldn't, I mean, that was, that was it, and maybe a halt to talk. That was it. Now, I'm Luke Wilson. Join me each week for Film Never Lies. Since retiring from the NFL, I've had a lot of my mind, and now got my own show. To if you're tired of lazy takes, if you want honest conversations join us each week. Film Never Lies available on all TSN platforms in the IHeartRadio app. Why hasn't a woman formally participated in a Formula One race weekend in over a decade?
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Starting point is 00:43:04 And listen now. presented by Capital One, founding partner of IHeart Women's Sports. I'm John Green. You may know me as the author of The Fault and Our Stars, and now I guess also is the co-host of The Away End, a brand new world soccer podcast. I'm Daniel Alarcon, a writer and journalist, and John and I have known each other since we were kids. My first World Cup was Mexico 86. I was nine years old. I watched every game and I fell in love. On our new podcast, The Away End, we'll share with you the magic of international football, all leading up to the 2020. For us, soccer. Football is a story we've shared for over 30 years since Daniel was the star player on our high school soccer team.
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Starting point is 00:44:15 I'm Miles Turner. And I'm Brianna Stewart. And our podcast, Game Recognized Game, has never been done before. Two active players giving you a real look at our lives and what we actually think, on and off the court. Nothing's off limits. We talk trade requests. What's the vibe of that when it's like your star player is like, well, I want to leave?
Starting point is 00:44:33 And then actually now I'm going to stay. We talk tanking. I mean, honestly, like, I might get in trouble for this answer, but I think it's, like, definitely happening in the WBA. And, yeah, we talk about our mistakes, too. They pulled me to the side and was like, hey, man, we got a call last night, man. You can't be rolling around the city like this tonight before games, no, you know, doing this, doing whatever. And of course, family stories.
Starting point is 00:44:57 They'll be like, Mommy, why did you miss that? Mommy, do you play basketball? Check out Game Recognized Game with Stuy and Miles on the IHeart Radio app. Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Yeah. But, but, but, but, but them, them string bikinis and, in the face catacorned in their boat, no, sir.
Starting point is 00:45:20 No, sorry. All that was frowned upon back then. Oh, my God. It was, it was, it was because you never, because you didn't see it. You didn't see it as much. Nowadays, right. Man, you go to a swimming pool or beach.
Starting point is 00:45:33 Boy, you, they're going to have a T-strings on. Hey, Joe, you see everything that you saw. that you saw in Victoria's Secrets or Fredericks of Hollywood, you go to a club. No question. Hey, Joe, you know, the funny thing about it, depending on where you live, like in Miami,
Starting point is 00:45:51 you ain't got to be in the club. No something. You ain't got to be. Oh, yeah. In Miami? Yeah, you can go to CVS or Walgreen. And that's exactly what you're going to get. Hey, Uncle Joe, I went, I went to the game
Starting point is 00:46:15 I went to the game today. What game? Oh, the soccer game. Yeah, Brazil and France. It's a little friendly. I mean, Brazil lost 2-1 to France. I got France probably winning the World Cup, but I went to, I went to,
Starting point is 00:46:28 Cambodia took me to a place I'd never been to before. Hey, something called Maggiano's. Huh? It was a little Italian spot. I have. You been there in any photo? You're talking about Maggianos? The chain? That's what I just said, huh?
Starting point is 00:46:43 Yeah, it's a chain. Yeah. It is? It's not like rails. Okay, I ain't know that. This is my first time. It was my first time. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:46:52 It was good. It was good. It was awesome. You know what? I don't want to. I bet it was unbelievable. Would you have the chicken parm? What I had eat?
Starting point is 00:47:03 Oh, hey, I had chicken, chicken fetuccini, and I added shrimp to it. I had a shrimp. Hey, you ever had the bread that they give you when they bring it to the table? The bread. Some garlic bread. I don't know what kind of bread that was for, but I asked a man for the rest of You wouldn't get to me. Hey, hey, hey, I went to this one place.
Starting point is 00:47:22 I'm talking about this was a bear. I mean, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, a Italian place. It's called like, like, olive garden. Oh, man, that thing, by. Who? Olive. Olive garden. What's that?
Starting point is 00:47:37 Okay. That's another chain restaurant. You ain't never been an olive garden, oh, Joe. Joe, I'm trying to be funny. That's a real restaurant for real. Yeah, it is. Yeah, it's a real restaurant. Hey, Joe.
Starting point is 00:47:49 No, but if you talk about like, like Rios, where you probably got to know somebody, I mean, you can't get in there unless you know somebody and the wait list is probably, without knowing somebody, you might have to wait six months to a year. That's just, big.
Starting point is 00:48:00 What? For a restaurant? Yeah. What's so special about it on? Because I know you've been in there. I ain't have been there. No, I mean, it's a very small and somebody own all the tables there.
Starting point is 00:48:14 So you have to know somebody that own, yeah, somebody that's on the tables. I mean, you probably, what, about 23, 30 people gets been there at a time. That's it? That's it. Oh, that's why, okay, okay.
Starting point is 00:48:25 Hey, where's that? It's in New York. They probably taxing to it. Yeah. Hey, it sounds like something tomorrow probably on, huh? Well, let's move right alone. It's time for, it's time for our final segment of the evening.
Starting point is 00:48:44 It's time for Q and A. Hey, Joe, I'm gonna try that. I'm gonna try that, uh, all of God. I'm gonna try that, uh, wouldn't they got that in Miami too, uh, yeah. Yeah, they do. I'm sure they do. I'm gonna try that. Before we get to our superchats, we got video voice mail from our Discord.
Starting point is 00:49:06 This one comes from Ahu Treb. Let's take a listen to what he had to say. What's up? What's up? Ohcho, Joe. I know y'all see them hops boy. Boy, boy, they're almost a fifth seed now. They're playing the day.
Starting point is 00:49:21 some vision to beat the pistons or what y'all think about them hocks they're gonna make a run or not joe i know you lit probably not who what'd you mean i mean i mean he's you're talking about beating the pistons but kane man please man listen hey look we can't help who they got out there playing now you hear me i understand but you also got to be well we are being realistic because they're ascending at the right time oh joe you see i mean you said the same thing you said the same thing about yeah cheer cheer cheer now we We didn't let it go. Now, we're not already talked about that. We're talking about the NBA, seven-games series.
Starting point is 00:49:58 Listen, we ain't going to be in no playing. I know that. We're going to get us a good seat. And I promise you, it ain't many teams out there who want to see them hogs, man. They're playing great. I'm talking about great basketball. I'm talking about we got a multitude of cats putting up great numbers, whether it's the Alexander kid who has been tremendous this whole season.
Starting point is 00:50:19 We know what JJ's been doing, Jalen, John. Johnson and C.J. McCullum, who I think when the postseason hits, yeah, he's playing well. He's the one who's going to make the huge difference because he keeps everything kind of mellow, chill, even when things are a little erratic, he knows how to stay poised and patient and get to his spots to where he can get a bucket or make the right play. I love the team that we have, man, them dudes has been playing,
Starting point is 00:50:44 they've been playing great basketball for probably the past month or so. Yeah, they got a good chance to do something special. But I got a chance. You know what guy I was thinking, Ocho, you got me thinking about Italian. I mean, I can't remember the last time I had Italian food. I can't remember. No pasta, none?
Starting point is 00:51:07 Nah, I don't. I mean, I'm just, just give me some steak, and I'm good. I mean, when I worked at CBS, I was like, all the steakhouses I heard of. So I went to Peter Lugar a couple of times. I went to Sparks. I went to Kings. I went to Ben Benson.
Starting point is 00:51:24 So I would just try to all the steakhouses. Yeah, yeah. But a good friend of mine, Tracy, Tracy Perlman, she worked in the NFL office. She had me off.
Starting point is 00:51:36 So we said Tyre Poudicom, we've at all these different places. How do I think I know, I know Tracy, she got like the little mold right there? No, no, no, no. I know you're talking about. I think that's a...
Starting point is 00:51:48 She's kind of short, a light-skinned lady? No, she's white. No, I think she's white. Tracy white. Yeah, my bad. Hey, y'all, you name, you just name it off restaurants, man. Hey, Uncle Joe, I got to expand my palate of something, man.
Starting point is 00:52:04 Man, you got to the same, hey, uncle, I got the same rotation of restaurants when I'm in Miami, and I ain't changed in like 30-something years. Bahama Breeze. I like what I like. Yeah, see, okay, see, exactly. So y'all have breakfast got it. Give me breakfast. All things being equal, Joe, Ocho and Joe, give me breakfast.
Starting point is 00:52:21 Like, when you say breakfast, you want to eat it in the morning or you want to eat breakfast with it? I can eat it anytime. I can eat, I can eat grips, eggs, bacon, sausage, pancakes. I can eat it anytime of the day. Same. Same. Anytime.
Starting point is 00:52:38 That's the one thing I love about the size of grits. Well, I got, we got a bunch of restaurants. We got to try the pancakes. Huh? I love pancakes. Yeah, I'm a, I love pancakes, too. They got to be good, though. I like the edge is a little crispy.
Starting point is 00:52:53 I don't, yeah, yeah, I like my edge is a little crispy. I don't like my pancakes too soft. I'm going. Damn. Same number of grand 89. ISO, you can't say whoop or pee or pee. All right. All right.
Starting point is 00:53:05 All right. All right. All right. Hey, look. You know what? Hey, look. As I'm watching the game, I said, man, these dudes are going to throw a parade. They're going to have a running of the bulls.
Starting point is 00:53:15 You know, yeah, I know. I know you're going to pull out all the building. No, Joe, Joe, you know. I ain't like that, man. Yeah, you're the first one. Yeah, I know. I know who I'm dealing with. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:23 Yeah. It was, Ocho. I came on the show very respectful. You came on here with that old, that boy jive. That's what you came on here with. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, you are, as Jordan. I see what's going on.
Starting point is 00:53:39 I see everything that's going on. No, you know. I'm on your side, okay. No, the Beverly Wilshire, they got a restaurant in there, they got the best. That's what we used to say. I love the Beverly Willsher, boy. Hey, yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:00 Y'all too rich from my blood. I'm talking about the team. The teams I played on Ocho, we go to L.A. We stayed at the Wilshire. Oh, okay, okay. I thought you said, I think we should, we should stay at the Beverly Wilshire.
Starting point is 00:54:12 Oh, no. Hey, when I go to. That's the Julia, Julia Robertson, a Richard Gear movie. Oh, pretty woman. Pretty, that's where they stay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's too much for me.
Starting point is 00:54:24 Now, when I do go to L.A., there is one place I go get breakfast. When I do, I don't frequent L.A. often, but I always go to toast on Third Avenue right by the bed. Oh, yeah? Okay. But what's you call them just got the James Beard Award for breakfast? Silver Spoon, the serving spoon, excuse me. Servant Spoon. Hey, right there off. God damn it. It's serving spoon good, man. I like the service spoon. I ain't never been, but I'm going to get there.
Starting point is 00:54:53 Kevin, non-delaluelal cowboy fan. Hey, oh, it's your eyes. This Saturday is my baby. girls eighth birthday. She's a swimmer, also a cheerleader. Can you guys wish Genesee a happy birthday? Absolutely, Kev. Thank you for watching. Genesee. Happy birthday. Hopefully you're, hey, you turn it to Katie Ledeckie and what does she do? And a cheerleader. I don't really know. Maybe you'll be a, uh, what's the movie that, uh, Gabrielle Union was. Uh, which one? The cheerleague movie. The cheer movie. Um, step up. Bring it on. Bring it on. Yeah. Yeah. So. Yeah. So. So hopefully you're Katie, you know, Katie Ledecki and Gabrielle Ewing to bring it on.
Starting point is 00:55:32 But congratulations. Happy birthday, babe. You're unbelievable. I know your dad is extremely, extremely proud of you. And we here at Nightcap, we're extremely proud of you as well. So happy eighth birthday and good luck in your swim meets and your cheerleading. Hey, Kev, thank you for the support, bro. Yes, sir.
Starting point is 00:55:49 Kevin Boat Knight, oh, Cho, I have the dumbest joke. When someone say they're cold, tell them to stand in the corner, it's 90 degrees. I like it. I like it. That's a good one. That's a good one. Yeah. D777.
Starting point is 00:56:06 ISO, nothing personal, all business. Now you can't say March or madness. As a matter of fact, call it November gladness because it's going to be gone. You're going to be gone the month. You finally be glad your team play again next season. Bear down.
Starting point is 00:56:21 Yeah, everybody got jokes on the man. It's just that kind of name. Yeah, yeah. You were popping it, Joe. You was popping it for a little minute by being no King ISO this and King ISO that and all of a sudden in defeat you can't take it. They tired of me winning. They tired of me winning.
Starting point is 00:56:35 I already know it. That what it is? You know how I go. Okay. Okay. Drew Jijitsu, who pig. Y'all kill it. Every hate the fun, truly.
Starting point is 00:56:46 Don't miss a pod. Rogan still number two pod. Iso, you're my favorite hard bro. You kill it. Thank you, bro. Appreciate that. Thank you for the support. You know, I mean, it's going to stay a little bit.
Starting point is 00:56:56 Joe go wake up in the morning and then realize, you know what? Damn. I ain't got no more. We're going to move on. We're going to move. I got my house getting ready for the playoffs, so I still got something to look forward to it. Okay.
Starting point is 00:57:07 Okay. And we're going to go to a game? G.S. Cardwise, detail service. Go ahead, Ocho. What did you say? I'd ask Joe if me and him, we're going to go to the game. Y'all watch the tag Tyrese versus them guys can say.
Starting point is 00:57:24 I didn't need it, man. I'm too big. I was watching these games. But I will go back, we'll go back and take a- I see that out. They say you put on the show though, tank. Hey, both them two can sing, boy.
Starting point is 00:57:38 For sure. Dennis Hadley, we need nightcap in Oklahoma. Oh, yeah, I know that ain't but a couple hours from where I went to college, Fayetteville, so. Yeah. Hey, Joe, you know I went to Lankston. You went to Lankston?
Starting point is 00:57:55 My freshman year, I was a redstone. Did you really? Yeah, I was there with Matthew Hatchett. You probably don't know Matt. You remember Matthew Hatchett, Unk? I do. Played for the Vikings. Yeah, I was a red shirt freshman.
Starting point is 00:58:07 Matthew Hatchett was on the team with me at Lansing. Oh, okay. Yeah, my dumb ad got thrown out for fighting. Oh, man, what happened? I never get a, uh, the president at that time was Dr. Ernest Holloway. What happened, Ocho? What are you fighting for? And somebody stole my, not my, not my per diem.
Starting point is 00:58:26 What you call it a little money? You get your little money from all. Um, your grant, your pale. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It wasn't that much, Joe, but I felt I was rich. I fed I was rich. And it was in my room. Only one person has access to the room, Unc.
Starting point is 00:58:41 Where is my money that I know I put into the draw? Where's my money? I'd never forget, man. I'm not sure what my big home he is. He was from Oakland. Big Steve. I don't know if you see this, Big Steve. If you still with us, you know, God willing, I mean, reach out to your boy, man.
Starting point is 00:58:55 It's been a very long time. Obviously, I haven't seen this 1996. If you still here with us, I mean, you know the story. We got into it. You know, we got the tough, we got to fighting. And I got in trouble. I had a, I had a ring on my hand by accident. And because-
Starting point is 00:59:09 How you have a ring on your hand by accident? I mean, you're not supposed to be fighting like that. And he got a little cut, little cut, man. Mr. Holloway say, listen, we don't, we don't, you know, condone this kind of behavior here at Lincoln University. I mean, he sent me right back to Miami. And that's how I got up at, at, uh, set up at us. In other words, you lumped him up.
Starting point is 00:59:29 I ain't say all that. I'm trying to be very respectful of the situation that happened. You don't told the story. You don't put the man name out there. Yeah, I'm putting the name out there because I would love the, I would love to connect again after so many damn years. Nah, he don't want to talk to you. He said he don't want to talk to you.
Starting point is 00:59:43 Hey, Big Steve. Well, if you're out there, but I don't know if you still stay in the Bay Area or not, but wherever you at, man, please get that to point, man, on Instagrams or stuff. It'd be good to catch up. Say, nah, like you say, too much time is fast. years. Like you say, Isaiah, you ready to go. He's a yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:02 Yeah, I would just tell you you know what circumstances are why I bounced from Oh, but hey, hey, but if he stole from you, Ocho, he deserved it now. He deserved to get lumped up. I mean, I mean, Joe, we in college. I know it's tight too. You know, you know, hey, that money I need that,
Starting point is 01:00:17 I know it. I got to be able to eat. Oh, man. I know it. You can tell when somebody get that pilgrim, they out eating every night. Soon with that money get low, you You're right back in the cafeteria. You must be down, ain't you? Hey, I'd never forget, boy. Hey, you know who went to school with me too?
Starting point is 01:00:35 Who there? Boy William's sister. The Cowboy or the receiving? No, Cowboys, Roe Williams. Okay. And she was the lengths with me, man. They had a huge, not a huge following of students that were from Chicago at the time.
Starting point is 01:00:53 Right. Oh, I wish I could connect with all them people, man. Good days, boy. Clifford Busby. Ocho, ISO, puts some respect on Illinois. Don't ever say we're going to lose to sorry-ass Houston. Go, Al-A-Lina. Y'all put that thump on them, bro.
Starting point is 01:01:09 Y'all did that thing. They did, bro. Drew Jiu-Jitsu 83. ISO. Woo-Pig. Love y'all. Woo-Pig, man. Stay locked in, bro.
Starting point is 01:01:22 You know, you're a fan, man. You're a fan of your team. Be a fan even when things ain't going so well, man. We locked there. I feel you, Joe. I'm with you. Yeah. We could say.
Starting point is 01:01:33 Yeah. Damn, all. Nah. Oh, Cho. Yo. Oh, Cho. What about that? Be it on Joe up here.
Starting point is 01:01:42 He got the crowd on. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. The people are gnawed in me. He can't talk about that. I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't control the outcome of this. I don't, when we do or something, I control that. What about, why you had to get the bell? The bell.
Starting point is 01:01:58 now. Okay, Ojo, we put up right now. Good. Keep it up. And the crowd. He got the belt laid down there. He got the crown copped inside, Ocho. It'll come out another time. It's hard. It's hard. It's hard to be to it. I told you all. Heavy is the head
Starting point is 01:02:16 that wears the crown. I told y'all. I told you. I told you. I come with that, man. Like come with that. We good 75. SEC, my butt. Iso. Roll it with you tonight. I lost my bag. I need some back. I need that my back Jack. Govall's great. Oh man. He's he lost some money, huh? He yeah. It's all good, bro. He can get his money back though. How he'll get it back?
Starting point is 01:02:46 Tomorrow bet with Michigan, bet with Michigan to win. Well, well, I'm not allowed to say that. No, I'll tell you how he can get his money back. He bet me against you, me whooping your ass. That's how he can get his money back. He put down on that parlay. He put that parlay down. He put that parley down. going to get his money back. I tell you, I tell you what, if he put that parlay down and he bet with you to beat me, well, he's going to be mad two times. He's going to be mad twice.
Starting point is 01:03:11 Because if one thing, no, Joe, when it comes to these hands, you hear me, they registered out there in Vegas for a reason. And knockout. Hey, hey, hey. They considered a lethal weapon for a reason, Joe. I don't give it there. What they registered in? Listen, a knockout going to be worth double.
Starting point is 01:03:27 I'm going to hook my man up. Hey, stay live three, bro. Knockout pay double. Yeah, you say, knockout, double. Knockout double. Yeah, that's how we bet the fight. When you bet the fight, knockout play double. I like that.
Starting point is 01:03:38 The funny thing, the knockout mostly happens, like when somebody get tired, you know, and you don't have discipline with your defense. But, Joe, all that stuff, Joe, I don't have perfected that crap, Joe. I'm so disciplined, you know, when it come to combat sports, I don't even think you get a punch in, honestly. Man, Ock, what you got?
Starting point is 01:03:56 Come on, what you got? What you got on? Thank you. Hey, you're nervous now. Rick Love, hey, nightcap, fam, give us your Mount Rushmore, in-game dunkers in NBA history. Blake Griffin,
Starting point is 01:04:12 Dr. J., Mike, Kemp, Braun, Dawkins, Wilkins, others. You ain't got a VINN? No, Vince? Amari Stadamai. Vince? Sean Kemp, definitely was an end-game dunker. Ant-Man.
Starting point is 01:04:29 Yeah. Well, well, I think you damn all as far as the in-game dunker. And what about DeAndre? That don't count because he's so damn tall. I mean, he caught a couple of bodies, but he ain't, like, I think Dr. Jay got it. I think Vince Carter, Sean Kemp, man. Sean Kemp was. Yeah, he was different.
Starting point is 01:04:57 He was different. And, dog. Ooh. In-game. Because Dominique was double pumping back with the end-go. We'll catch your body. Hey, man, them do free. You know who a guy that don't get credit for it?
Starting point is 01:05:14 And he's a better endgame dunker that he would have been in a dunk contest. Oh, yeah. Yeah. But he just do the same dunk, huh? No, he got. But I'm saying he doesn't caught bodies with that same dunk.
Starting point is 01:05:26 Oh, okay, I see what you mean. I'm thinking about, when we talk about end game dunk because I'm thinking about creativity. Well, ain't no creativity on dunk because you just, you just baming on people. Okay, I understand what you.
Starting point is 01:05:36 you mean I understand. I mean, I mean, think about how many people he got how many people he got yesterday are, uh, uh, uh, a end. Man, a couple. He called a boy out for Euro step with the left hand. That's impressive at 41. That's impressive, fella. And then hit him with a layup, got filed to talk about both of you
Starting point is 01:05:53 charts. Yeah. Sheldon Pope said, Iso is hosting, uh, are you hosting any events in Atlanta, full, four day? and are you inviting Oh, John? Hold on, when it's four-four-day? And to answer your second part of your question,
Starting point is 01:06:18 hell now, I ain't inviting an Ocho. Hey, hey, listen, Joe, you know what's going to happen, Joe? I'm going to just show up, and I'm going to just show up and I'm going to FaceTime you. I'm in town. Hey, you've seen the airport in Atlanta? Why ain't nobody trying to be sitting no line, no $5,000, man? Hey, TSA, hey, what's a?
Starting point is 01:06:35 TSA, man, people ain't coming to work. Them folks ain't getting paid, Ocho, what you want them to do? I know, I'm just saying, but you have to understand. You know, y'all was screaming at me for not coming to Maddo City night, and the goddamn line of TSA was six, that was a five-hour wait. You'd have been pissed off. You probably had to stay here a couple days. That ain't got nothing to do with you.
Starting point is 01:06:53 That ain't got nothing to do with you. That ain't no line to get off the plane. Tell them again, huh? There ain't no line to get up to play. Where if it let you do that? HP2012, Ocho. Got to put that $5900 in the opportunity. Oh, man.
Starting point is 01:07:08 It may ain't going to go out of the plane. Hey, hey, I'm gonna put it in there because, you know, the Lord don't like noise, man. Huh? I like my buddy, too. I got you. I told you, I'm here for emergency situations. Jordan to go, 96.
Starting point is 01:07:28 Jordan did nothing wrong. IT, one salty old man, keep crying, bear down on your head, top Iso. Look, like I said, I mean, you know, you hear, and say it did happen, they say it didn't happen. Whatever it is, whatever is, whatever is done, ain't no undoing it.
Starting point is 01:07:49 It ain't no undoing it. It's like when, you know, somebody get popped for steroids or something and somebody else getting the medal, well, I don't miss my opportunity to get my national anthem played at the top of the podium. You bringing me a medal of 10, 15, 20 years later. What the hell that is that?
Starting point is 01:08:04 What good is that? Nothing, none. I don't get no heroes welcome when I come home. home. I didn't get to stand on top of the podium and hear my national anthem. You robbed me or that. That's what it's about. Yeah, I understand. I want to gold medal, but hey, the whole thing
Starting point is 01:08:19 is the world to hear me stand up on that top step and to hear my national anthem playing. So I don't really know, even if they were to give them a gold medal, which they're not. I'm just speaking hypothetical here, there ain't nothing going to undo what's been done that many years ago.
Starting point is 01:08:41 We will take our reparations, though. That'll help us. 828 style. What's up? Charlotte winning now because they got my Duke boys down there teaching them how to win as a brotherhood. They changing the culture. They are. They are.
Starting point is 01:08:58 They look good. They're playing their ass off. They look good. They look like they got a bright future. If they can keep them core guys together who's playing well, obviously make the playoffs. Hey, man. Charlotte going to be in a good place. JTV, Uncle Ocho, love the show, user name Jay.
Starting point is 01:09:20 Question for ISO. Tracy Biggrey said, you called him late in his career. What do you think you would have done with T-Mack if you could have got played with him before the injury? Man, I see, I'm a sponge, bro. Like, any of them dudes, because I grew up idolizing, you know, the Jordans, the Penny Hardaway, Penny who I played with for four years, T-Mack, who I played with four years.
Starting point is 01:09:42 I just used to ask a lot of questions. I never challenged them dudes in one-on-one. one's, Penny, T-Mack, I never challenged none of them. I just always asking information on how I could better my game. Okay, Ocho, you know what I mean? Yeah. Like, show me something. When they throw in that double and triple team on me,
Starting point is 01:10:00 man, how can I still get open and get me a, you know what I mean, and get to it. So it's just the little stuff like that, bro, that they're having them type of vets around who then led the league and scoring, who then been super icons of the game. That, man, just be a sponge. to ask a lot of questions, just try to get some game from them.
Starting point is 01:10:19 That's what I was trying to do. Alan Fetcher said 23. We went the whole show. Iso wasn't supposed to say basket or ball. Yeah, all right now. Look, look, look, look. Go ahead. Y'all hear y'all fun tonight.
Starting point is 01:10:37 Go ahead y'all for it ain't. Man, I told Ocho that a couple of years ago his team was lose. I said, Ocho, since your team lost, you can't say foot or ball. Man. Don't let the brawold. Or the Ravens. He comes on here and talk. Oh, yeah, man.
Starting point is 01:10:56 That joke of there. Rodney M. Say, what's up, nightcap? Pretend you're a GM building a starting lineup around your prime using players in history, but you can't say players that you've played with already. So, Joe, if you're going to pick a,
Starting point is 01:11:12 you build a starting lineup, who you play with. He said I can't pick players that I play with. Yep. All right, I'm going, I'm going Jordan, Cope. I'm probably going to put them at the one end or two. We're going to be a big lineup. I'm going to go. I'm going to probably go with, oh, I'm probably going to go with Katie.
Starting point is 01:11:39 Nah, I'll probably go. Yeah, I probably go Katie at three. I'll go at my four. I probably go with a big, I'll probably go Tim Duncan. Tim Duncan and, you know, I got to have the big Aristotle. Yeah, give me Shaq, bro. That's a good squad.
Starting point is 01:12:05 Yeah, yeah. Who you going? Oh, who you got? Oh, who you got? Oh, who you got on? Oh, man, what you got? Who are five, huh? Huh?
Starting point is 01:12:15 Who are five? You going, Braun. I'm going, Matt. I'm going, oh, you're Bronwick. Oh, you're Bronwick. Oh. Brown at the three. I'm gonna go,
Starting point is 01:12:34 Braun at the three, Jordan at the two, Magic at the point. Wimby at your foe and then Yokets, watch. Nope, no. I've tried to win one game. Magic, Jordan,
Starting point is 01:12:54 Braun, Duncan, Shaq. I don't know too many people who ain't gonna have Shaq the dude was just filthy, bro. You know, expect,
Starting point is 01:13:06 like, if you, if you got to say like, like, in today's game, yeah, I would take Steph, Jordan,
Starting point is 01:13:15 Braun, Yokic and KD. Mm. Mm. Mm. That's a good, that's, that's,
Starting point is 01:13:31 that's, that's a nice file. I don't know. Ain't nobody beating us. I don't know about that. Boy, you know, but,
Starting point is 01:13:42 Do you know how many, uh, uh, uh, who gonna come to Steph? Cause you're gonna have to come down there, double, because I got, I got two great pay. I got LeBron and your. Who he's gonna, who step gonna guard? Don't worry about it. He gonna be banging, he'll be banging so many threes. They gotta guard nobody.
Starting point is 01:14:02 Hey, the fridge found out. Who can step go guard? Don't worry about it. Who go guard him by here? Hey, you left you, you left your boy Luke all. Yeah, but yeah, I got Jordan. I got you on the still. I get, I get, I get, I get Luca, I get Luca,
Starting point is 01:14:22 Luca come out the bench for me. That concludes this episode of Nightcap. Thank you guys for joining us. Y'all know who I am. I'm your favorite aunt. My partner and co-host, Cincinnati Great, ring of fame, honorary, a former Pro Bowl and an all pro. That is Chad Ochosenko Johnson.
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