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Josh Hart said tonight that the Knicks knew the Spurs were food after seeing Wemby cry when they beat OKC.
Wow.
Hey, you can't show that kind of emotion.
I think a few other basketball players say the job is not done.
The job is not over.
The task at hand, the ultimate goal is the winner, the winner championship.
You know, that Larry O'Brien.
So to be crying because you're going to the final.
know if I don't know if it was crying because they were going to the final.
I think he was crying because they beat O KC, knowing how tough and challenging it was,
knowing that they were the champions from last year.
I think that's why he was.
And they got the MVP on the roster.
Yeah, you go.
Yeah.
And Wemby probably feels slighted that he didn't win MVP.
Yeah.
Yes.
Right.
He said he used that in motivation.
Yeah.
So those emotions came out.
Yeah.
I understand.
man, but you know, I mean, but at 22-Ocho, I mean, it's tough, bro.
I mean, it's probably other cats who could have held them emotions in, but I just felt like
they kind of took over.
Like I heard them saying many press conferences, like he didn't really, he can't explain it.
You know what I mean?
Like, it's just something he dreamed of, you know what I mean?
And I think that's the, that's the great part about sports, bro.
Because we all grew up, whether you're all catching touchdowns.
whether it's me counting the shot clock down,
making the game winning shot,
and then for you to actually be in that situation
and actually come through,
yeah, I think it's very emotional.
I think it's very emotional.
I got it.
And then he 22.
You don't know.
I'm sure he understood that like, wow,
because, I mean,
some people had them in the playing tournament.
Some people had them,
you know, fifth or sixth seed,
and here they are the number two seed,
and they took down the raining,
defending champ with the reigning, defending, uh, MVP on the roster.
They did that.
Uh, I, I don't hold nobody's emotions against them because everybody does it differently.
And I think the thing is that when you try to put obviously how you do certain things,
you know, we, we, we all know how you do certain things, how you talk about your teammates and
how you carry on, that's very, very important.
But everybody deals with success differently.
Definitely.
Yeah.
And some people, you know, like, hey, like, you know, some people, you know, cry like George.
Yeah.
When Jordan won and then he realized like, you know what, man.
And maybe it was because his father wasn't there to see him celebrate.
He was on father's day.
And you see, and you see Kobe.
Kobe got the trophy in his hand and he's just looking at it.
And that was around the time that he and his mom them had stopped speaking.
And all the things, all the thoughts that's going through his mind.
Some people were like, man, please, this is the time of my life.
I can't worry about who not here.
Right.
Everybody had a little situation differently.
Yeah.
I mean, Uncle, when you look at it,
Jordan won a championship on Father's Day.
You know what I mean?
I think that's why it was so emotional for him.
You just seen him break down, bawling crying.
Hell, I probably would have been the same way.
I ain't going to lie to you.
If I was that close to my pops, bro, and he got murdered,
man, I've been insane.
We won on Father's Day?
Come on, bro.
I mean, death is really never easy.
That's the thing that, I mean, you have to really respect and love about death.
If there's anything because it doesn't discriminate.
No.
It takes young, it'll take old.
It'll take rich.
It'll take poor.
It does not discriminate.
Just know when you have that appointment, you can't reschedule it.
And death, you know, there's no way to prepare.
It's like, well, how do you prepare?
prepare for it. We all know we're going to die. It didn't make it any easier when it actually
happens to your loved ones that you left behind. But it's the fashion in which Jordan father
succumb. So sudden. Man, 85, 90 years old, man, he had a great life. Man, you can remember
but tragically how somebody senselessly took that man's life. And you think I'm Michael Jordan.
I'm supposed to be able to insulate stuff like that. I should be able to insulate my family from
that foolishness.
There are some things I can't control cancer.
I can't control kidney disease, liver disease, things like that.
There are certain things, I don't care, they ain't get enough money.
But there are certain things I feel like my money, my fame, I should be able to insulate
that.
Absolutely.
Don't know.
And probably whoever did this, you know, I don't know if sure they even knew what it was.
Right.
Until probably went to his wallet and took it.
And they probably still didn't put two and two together.
it was sad and I couldn't believe it
I couldn't believe it because I don't I didn't really know anybody famous
that father or mother had gotten like this
so what are we looking at?
So what?
Remember it came on the new father of Michael Jordan killed?
What?
First thing would you think a traffic accident?
Not murdered.
Man.
Man.
and because he looked just like his dad
and how close they were.
Think about it.
Every time Jordan was something, he was right there.
Now all of a sudden I win.
Three Pete, finish off a three Pete.
Hadn't been done 60, 67, Celtics.
Hey, man.
I think in certain situations,
even when you look at Michael Jordan at 6'6,
if you look at his parents,
Ocho, hell, you probably could even go through
his whole family tree.
he probably ain't got nobody over six foot six two because you know what I mean so I feel like
you know in situations like that man it's almost destined bro because the athleticism that his brother
Larry had and and MJ had like his brother probably was more athletic than him but he was just a lot
smaller yep you know what I mean versus MJ getting six six now he got this 45 I think they said even
50 inch vertical I mean man come on bro and his desire to work
work ethic.
And when you didn't took as many ass whoopens as he took from his brother coming up,
kind of like, you take all them ass whoopens, you be ready to do you be ready to do
some of them out when you get a look at it?
Hey, hey, let me get somebody.
That's my size.
I just whip them.
Yeah.
And, you know, he told a story that what do you say about basketball?
the reason why he loved basketball so much
is because it's loyal
because he knows what he gives to it.
It'll give it back to him.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I just love to hear greats.
Serena and Venus and Mike and Tom Brady.
I love them because, you know,
Ocho, we and I say how greatness is
and it's lonely and everything.
They don't want to hear from us.
But we talk about the upper-est,
this is like the wealthy,
once you get to pass
that 50 billion,
there's only a certain level of people.
Well, when you get to that Jordan and Serena
and Tiger and Jordan level,
Tom Brady, Tigerwood,
there's only a certain level of people
that have ever reached that conchendo
and to hear them talk
about what it takes
and the selfishness that is involved.
Yeah.
Then you get an appreciation.
Yes.
Just a little bit of success
that I had, I knew what it took,
what nearly as great as those
and never professed to be,
but I knew in order,
it is lonely and it is very mundane.
Yep.
And unless, and who can join,
what's the female equivalent of Jordan
marrying someone that would actually
know what he's going through?
Hey,
because Serena, if she's 60,
and she's a 23-time Grand Slam champ,
she would know.
That's why movie stars
normally married other movie stars
because they know what it's like to live that life.
They know what it's like to jump in
and out of character.
Yeah.
You see?
Hey.
And the one percent of the one percenters are the one percenters.
Yes.
They're the zero point.
Whatever that point is like 99.9.
They're that zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero.
Like 55 zero one.
Yeah.
That's what they are.
What was that?
You know what's funny?
The numbers you just said, you know, there's another level above them, too.
Yeah.
What's another level above them, Ojo?
Yeah.
What, the elites?
God.
When you talk Jordan and Serena and Tiger Woods?
Jack, Jack, Jesus.
God.
You start looking at the Stephanie Graves and things like that, man.
I mean, yeah.
It's crazy.
I mean, think about me, the work that, I mean,
and everybody hear about George's work ethic,
how legendary it was.
You hear about Kobe.
You hear about Serena and all the balls that they hit
and their dad teaching them.
He watching BCR tapes and teaching them how to swing
and how to hit the backhand.
And you hear about all the work ethic.
And you hear about LeBron getting to the gym five hours early
and getting up a workout in and getting shots up.
and to do that.
And you think about this,
you do all of that
with no guarantee
you ever going to reach the level
that you think you are.
You do it on a hope
that this is going to pay off.
And I tell people all the time,
hard work doesn't guarantee you anything,
but without it you got no chance.
At all.
You see,
I read a quote a couple of days ago, guys.
They said,
two people that are smart
can never fall in love.
One of them has to be an idiot
to fall in love.
Hmm.
See, the fall in love,
see,
the fall in love with a sport
or the falling,
fall in love with something
that you cannot control.
Right.
You got to be an idiot.
Damn.
Hold on.
I don't,
I'm done,
that's it.
That's it.
That's it.
Thank you were joining us
to that for another episode.
Hey, hold on.
Hey,
uh,
hey, that's a good one.
Wait,
hold on,
let you write that down.
You got to be,
because think about it,
Joe,
think about all the work
that you put in,
with no guarantee.
I go to work every day.
What about guaranteed?
I'm going to get a Saturday
at the end of the work period.
You work from the time
you was nine, ten years of age.
Titus, get out.
As a matter of fact, get out.
Hey, hey.
Out.
You worked from the time you was nine or ten years old,
so you worked 12 years with no pay.
Basketball didn't pay you a dive.
Ocho, you worked from the time
you was 10, 11 years old, and football never paid you a dime.
You worked on a hope that everything that I put in this would pay off one day.
Yes.
There are many of people that put just as much time, just as much effort in it, and it didn't pay off.
Hold on, you got to bring me back to that question.
Hey, hey, hey, hey, basically.
Hey, Ocho.
Too smart people can't fall in love, Ocho.
If you fall in love, one of them have to be an idiot.
You've got to be an idiot to fall in love.
You small people can have fallen in love.
Hey, the moral of the story is we are awesome damn idiots, okay?
Yes, yes.
Yes.
To fall in love with, and Jordan said it.
Go back and look at some of his quotes.
He said, I fell in love with this because it's the only thing I know would love me back.
I got to use that way.
You do, it's more than an obsession.
It's more than a commitment.
it's a singular focus
because people say, well,
plan A and plan B.
What's your plan B?
Well, if plan B was going
with so probably, it would be plan A.
I got no plan B.
I got a plan A.
That's a lot of,
that's a lot of cats out here too.
Yeah.
To fall in love,
someone has to be an idiot.
Too smart people can't fall in love,
Ocho.
One of them has to be an idiot.
So that's,
That's how it works.
That is, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, I'll show me. I'll trust you.
You see.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
What's a good.
Faith is the unknown, but believe.
Mm-hmm.
You see, man says, show me, I'll trust you.
God say, trust me, I'll show you.
You see the difference?
Yeah.
What, what man's, oh, I would trust, okay, blindly trust.
I said you put your faith in me
I'm still stuck on that first
I ain't
I ain't heard that one
I'm my mom
I know I do I do
I do you're going to love that one
I like that I like that
Josh oh man
all right Wemby
you let them see your weakness
you got a button up
the big
the new season of the big three
kicks off tomorrow game one
You got the Detroit Amps versus the DMV trilogy.
Game two, you got the LA riots versus the Miami, the 305s.
Game three, you got to Houston.
What do they call?
The air hands, the rig hands.
So I guess they off the Gulf.
Yeah, they're working a rig.
Okay.
And then you got the Chicago triplets.
In game four, you got the Dallas Power versus the Boston ball halls.
Yeah.
Hey, it's going to be fun this year.
You know, great, great parody.
throughout the league, obviously 305 coming off and winning the title, you know, having Lance
Stevenson and Michael Beasley on the team, bro, I'm not going to lie to y'all.
Those two guys alone, they just, they're a handful, you know what I mean?
So you got to have, not only do you got to have some dogs, but you got to have some guys
who can put that ball in the hole, man, because in the big three, we don't have a clock.
We're not playing against no damn clock.
It's the first one to 50.
You know what I mean?
So you got to be able to get a bucket.
And the game gets hard when you get 40 points.
When you get 40 points, okay, Ocho,
everybody lock it in.
For every bucket.
Hey, because I'm going to tell you something,
the big three is far way more physical than the NBA, bro.
Wait, they let a lot.
Because you play it half a point, Joe.
They let you get away with so much.
Like, it's files that don't get called,
and you just have to play through it.
And I respect it all because as you have,
great defenders, you can't call everything, bro.
This three on three.
You know what I mean?
It ain't much help.
So at some point, if you got guys who causes mismatches, you have to give up something.
You know what I mean?
Whether it's jump shots, whether it's mid-ranges, you don't want to give up layups.
But I think the league is getting better, bro.
They've extended the games.
I think it's like 14, 15 games.
It used to be only like 10 games.
You know what I mean?
So it's starting to, you know, spread out a little bit.
And I think they cut the teams down, too, where it used to be, like, 14, 15 teams.
I think it's only like eight.
Is it eight now?
Because they got, they got, right now it says eight.
Is everybody playing tomorrow?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
They took it down to eight.
So when you take it down to eight, obviously, you put a lot of talent on one team.
So that's why I say the parody is so good.
So I think it's going to be fun.
I can't wait to watch, obviously, the team that I was on, the Detroit amps.
I'm going to be honest with y'all.
Even last year, I felt we had the better team, but we were hamper by injuries, obviously.
And this year, I felt we had an even better team.
But unfortunately, I can't play.
So, you know, hopefully those guys.
Hey, hey, what the first game?
LA.
What's the first game in?
You going to any game?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I think the second week is in Detroit.
I'm going to try to make it out to D.
I actually got two weeks in Detroit.
But I'm going to try to make a few of them.
I'm trying to make a few.
I might even come out there when they come to Miami, Ocho.
Okay, I'm going with you.
I bet I'm going to pull up out there for sure.
L.A. versus Miami.
Go ahead.
I feel.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
You know, we're good.
We're good.
We good.
Yeah.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
L.A. versus Miami.
Michael Beasley versus Dwight Howard.
Round two.
Tune in tomorrow, June 20th, 12, 30 p.m., Pacific Time on CBS and BET.
Hey, man, I ain't going to lie, boy, it hurt me that I can't play.
I enjoy playing on that stage, Uncle Ocho, that CBS, that platform, that Cube, and Clyde Drexler
and Q, partner Jeff has, you know, granted us older guys who still love to play the game,
still in great shape.
So to watch it, I ain't going to lie, it's going to hurt the watch, but I'm going to be tuned in.
Oh, Joe, we know you got to get out of here.
So go ahead and get to your appointment and we'll catch you on Sunday.
Hey, I love y'all, boys, man.
Y'all enjoy, man.
Yep.
I'm going to see y'all tomorrow, right?
Yep.
No, Sunday.
Okay, okay, okay.
All right, love.
Peace.
Joe, according to athletic, Sam Amick,
the pistons are expected to be a suitor for the Lakers guard, Austin Reeves.
Joe, do you like Austin Reeves in Detroit with Cade if the Lakers don't
Hey, that's nice.
Think about this.
As great as Detroit was this year, they struggled in the postseason due to a lack of scoring
in the way AR can see.
Because if what you call them didn't get it, they didn't get it.
Yeah, yeah.
So it's hard because he's got to be special every night just for y'all to even be in damn games.
So you go get against.
Yeah.
I like AR, don't get me wrong.
I wouldn't mind seeing AR next to K.
I wouldn't mind seeing
Kyrie Irvin next to K
I wouldn't mind if
Houston got out for Kevin Durant
and he went over there.
It's the plet there guys who I think
could fit next to K. Obviously
AR is probably
best suited because he's a free agent.
I think, man, I think it'll be
a match made happen because they're a great
defensive team so you can
hire AR to some degree.
You know what I mean? Yes. Yes. You got Thompson.
Cage can play defense.
They got some guys that can play.
The question is,
Cade, A.R, do you keep Tobias?
Obviously, you keep in Thompson.
But the Thompson twins, bro,
y'all didn't get in the gym
and just work on shooting the basketball,
especially Osor.
That's what they got to.
You got to, well, nowadays, playing in the league,
you've got to be able to score that ball.
You've got to be able to shoot at least, hell,
because if you can't shoot,
then you're a liability out there.
More trade talk, Joe.
More intel from Sam Amic.
He said the Celtics have an interest in Troy Murphy III,
if they can't land Yanis.
Rival execs believe the bucks are underwhelmed by offers for Janus.
Grizzlies are hopeful that John Morant would be some teams plan B
after Yonis is moved.
Heat have been known to have serious interests.
Kauai Leonard is also the heat's plan B,
but no one around the league knows if he's available.
Joe, it's hard.
I know you got to trade, Yonis.
I know that.
Every other team, 29 other teams know
Milwaukee's got to get off Yannis.
They also know he's not signing an extension.
With that being said,
there are other teams that say we might want him,
but he wouldn't sign an extension with us,
and we'd be foolish to give you draft compensation
and only have him for as a rental.
So there's probably what, three or four teams that Yonis,
maybe the Celtics,
probably the heat,
maybe the Warriors,
I only see those first two teams.
The heat and the Celtics, because if I'm yonest, honestly,
I really don't want to go messing around in that Western Conference, man.
Say, hey, you stay in the East, you team, if you can go,
if you can get to Boston, if you can get to Miami,
you can basically be a top three team in the Eastern Conference
and potentially come out, you know, because if he can stay healthy,
obviously we know that we know how that calf is.
So, but if he can stay healthy and be putting up them guided numbers that he's been putting up the past summer a year, man, please.
Whatever team he go to, they're going to be favored in the east.
Right.
So it's going to be, it's going to, it's going.
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It's going to be very interesting to see how this thing plays out.
The problem is that everybody had been talking about this Yonis thing for about two years, Joe.
So it's not, it wasn't like a look like a look like that it just, boom, it just happened.
Everybody's been talking about this.
Yon has bears some culpability because, you know, the coach, the coach that he got, Bud got gone, J. Kidd got gone, Adrian Griffith got gone, a holiday got gone.
Guys, obviously,
Middleton started to get injured a little bit more,
so he wasn't as reliable as he needed to be.
But he has to bear some culpability in this.
And I think the thing is that he wants all the perks
that comes along with being a superstar,
but none of the blame as far as responsibility
that comes along with being a superstar.
Because he saw the backlash that LeBron gets.
He saw the backlash that KD gets.
He don't want that.
At the end of the day, Yonis really wants him like.
That's why he pushes, well, it's going to be my wife's decision.
It's going to be my agent's decision.
It's going to be everybody's decision, except the guy is going to have to play in the new location.
Hello, the one who got to deal with it.
It's your decision.
Hey, I thought the buck's done everything right for yon.
Here, they had both his brothers on the damn team.
What more you want?
You know, you got—
And neither one of them could play dead in the West.
So I think we all—
know Yonis is going to get traded, but like you said, man,
ain't no team willing to give up them to half their roster for them.
They ain't doing that because they know you got to get up off of them.
And you got to get up off of them.
And what have we seen over the last couple of years?
The injuries are starting to come with great regularity.
And they're starting to keep them out for extended periods of time.
Yeah.
That in fact.
That in conjection, that's not innuendo.
That's not speculation.
It's documented.
He ain't getting no younger.
He ain't getting no younger.
But it's a, it's a, it's a.
plet of guys out there. I want to see what Jai's going to go. I want to see Jai get back to being Jai.
You know, he got some work he got to do. Hopefully he's been in the lab unc because that three-point
percentage, if you shoot 20 or 15% from the three.
Not for the point. I know, because they, that should, that should meet and potatoes.
You know, from the point guard spotting, if you can't shoot, bro, I'm going under every
pick and I'm going to make you every last one of them. Because I know, I'm keeping your head.
out the paint. And if you look at it, Joe,
look at his paint points.
They've come down every year.
Now, if he can't get to the paint,
he can't shoot the three. It ain't like he got
the minute. He lives.
He does, bro.
He's Derek Rose 2.0.
Yep. And in order for him
to expand that game,
well, you know what he needs to be, Joe.
Well, the thing is, it's kind of
carbon copy with Yonis.
hell he he's been hurt he's been hurt the majority of the time you know what I mean
and it just it hurts your value bro when teams take a look they like damn the past two
three years you know hell I don't even know if he didn't play 60 games you know what I mean
so it's it's some challenges that come with you know guys like Jai and Janus but man look
that that's a risk and that's a chance that I'll be willing to take uh yeah but
sure, for sure.
I mean,
the thing is,
though, Joe,
I mean,
Yannis is going to want
a long-term extension,
Joe.
He's going to want
four years
at probably 60 a year.
What is,
what is the most Yonis
could sign for?
I mean,
theoretically he could
wait until January,
I mean,
wait to the trade,
the All-Star
the trade thing,
and then signed the extension,
but I don't know
if anybody is willing to chance that.
Yeah,
if he gets traded,
he's going to want a contract
immediately.
Yeah,
he ain't.
ain't going to be willing to risk that.
He's,
huh?
Yeah, he's eligible for forces
$2.75 with the bucks.
That ain't happening.
Because I don't see the bucks
doing a sign and trade.
I don't see them appeasing it in that aspect.
Nah, you're going to,
you go on over there where you want to go.
Yeah, they ain't going to do that.
They ain't going to do that.
Because, hell, you're going to have to give up
half your team if you do a sign
and trade like that.
If you're a team that's getting into it,
but we know he's going to go
somewhere, man.
I don't know where, but,
I'm looking forward to this draft.
I'm looking forward to what's going to happen during the draft,
after the draft, free agency.
You know, I want to see what,
I want to see if the Lakers are going to be able to bring Brian back.
Yeah.
We're going to find out here something.
I mean, Thane's going to start,
this draft is Tuesday.
They're going to start percolating here shortly after that, Joe.
Or before that.
Okay.
Yeah, it's, hey, it's some top guys, man.
and then because I think
I think we know Yonnis's going to be gone.
I'm almost
for sure.
We bid you not,
Yonis was going to be gone.
And Jai.
We've been doing that.
We've been doing that.
You got to get him out of Memphis,
got to get him out of them.
No,
guys,
we don't bring up devout.
It's just like there's a reason
why all of a sudden
there came with Carfax on cars.
People don't have been
in a damn demolition derby
and they want you to pay
full price for the damn car
and that thing
that's been in a demolition derby.
That's why they got car facts.
The problem is that with an NBA player,
I get a chance to see him that he missed 30 games.
He missed 40 games.
He missed half a season.
He missed an entire season.
What do you mean bring up injuries?
That's a part of it.
Yep, it is.
You pay in full price.
Tell me to the situation.
The house that got flood damage.
You're not playing full price for it.
A car that's been in an accident.
You're not paying full price for it.
Come on, chat.
Ain't no bringing up no injuries.
It's facts.
Yeah.
injury prone guys, bro.
Yes, it's fact.
Look at the last, look at John the last three years.
Has John been injured?
Yes or no?
It's a simple question.
Yes or no?
The last three years, have Yonis missed time with injury?
It's a simple yes or no.
And when you look at it, you got to look around our league, bro.
A lot of the top guys in the NBA are they've been getting hurt.
And it's been.
Yes.
That pace.
It's been catastrophic, yeah, because the game is played at a much faster pace than it's probably ever been played at.
I believe it's getting back to where it was in the 80s, Joe.
And I don't know you were just a kid, but Joe, games were 158, 163, 170 to 150, 150, 145, 14.
It was at that pace for a period of time.
And then the NBA, for whatever reason, like, well, we don't like these time of game.
And then they went totally the other way.
Now you have 78, 78, 75, 7269 ball game.
And they're like, man, this stinks.
And they kind of went.
And now they're just like, you see the pace routinely.
You're into one-twenty.
Easy.
Easy.
That's light.
Yeah.
So it's going to be some major moves made, bro, here in the next few days.
I think you have, I think teams realize they have to make these moves.
I think the thing is
I think we're kind of done
with the super teams, Joe.
What you mean?
Like three,
uh,
yeah,
I don't think you'll ever see
LeBron,
uh,
no,
no,
Wade.
I don't think you'll ever
going to see,
uh,
KD and stuff
and the situation like that.
I don't think you're going to do that anymore.
But I think,
I do think the thing is,
though,
I think these owners are going to try to put pressure on
some of these guys to do what Brunson did
and I don't think these players are going to do it.
No,
everybody ain't,
I don't see,
I don't see players taking $1113 million
hair cut.
I might take a two, three million dollar haircut a year.
So I might take a $20 million haircut, $113, Joe.
No, ain't nobody doing that.
Bro, I say, give me a, I say, bro, give me a skin fade, not a co-jack.
You'll cut all my damn hair off.
Hey, hey, and playing in New York, too?
Yeah, ain't nobody doing that, bro.
Kudos to Brunson for that.
But a lot of these cats coming up, damn, man, listen.
And if you're on draft well,
It's going to be hard to compete, man, because it's, like you say, it's going to be hard to get these free agents, guys lead these teams, knowing that they can get that extra year already on the team that they own.
It's going to be some challenges that will come with this.
Yeah.
Man, I go to the barbershop and say, hey, give me that number five.
Oh, Joe, you know, you go to the barbershop, they got, they got like 30 pigeons up there.
Yeah.
Let me get that number five.
Hey, that joke will spin you around and you look in the mirror like, what the hell is this?
You're gonna cut my damn hair off.
Bang.
My granddad went to the barbershop.
He'd a fellow sleep up there in the bed and the barber cut in a mustache.
Oh, man.
Man.
Man, who in the hell told you to cut my...
Yeah.
Well, I remember them day, back then, her cut won't about $5, man.
Yo, I remember hair cut with a dollar.
Dollar's a million.
My grandma, my grandpa, well, because once my grandfather,
my grandfather used to always take a stuff.
the barbershop.
There was a guy named Bobby Lee Wilkins
used to cut out here, but the guy that
cut out here the most was a
pastor that came down
on, he comes down late Friday, but normally
Saturday, and
Reverend Green, he would cut out here, me and my brother,
$3. Papa would give us, give Spanky
the money, and he would go
do what he got to do. Because normally,
because you know back then,
hey, how many, I'm next.
And so you just sit outside and then the barbers
going to get you. And then
people, and then people,
started lying. Well, I was here first and then I was here.
And then you started having to take a ticket.
And then they started taking appointments.
So I remember like a dollar 50 was a haircut.
And then when I got to college, you know your teammates cut your hair.
Then, hey, dollar, $2 haircut.
You know, hey, they wasn't no professional, but hey.
Yeah, you ain't lying.
I had a teammate, my partner, he used to cut out here in college.
We used to pay him about $20 a cut.
Yeah.
A $20?
You paid $20 a cut on it.
Oh, no, Joe.
Hey, man, we played $2, $3, $4.
Y'all get no, that man can give you nothing but a bowl, ain't it?
Oh, no, no, no.
Who cut my hair?
Mud, a dude named Wes and McGriff, we call it mud.
Roughhouse, Roughhouse still a barber to this day.
And Squirrel, the other receiver.
In Coot, we had a little guy named Coot.
Yeah.
Cut here.
No, I don't remember
In college, I ain't never paid more
To like $3.4.
Man, please.
Yeah, they were starting to go up by then, man.
But you got to realize, Joe, that was $8.
How much for $3 in 1986 to $1989?
That's probably by $15.20.
In today's?
Yeah.
No, no, haircut.
And then a dude named Sammy Murphy.
sometime my grandpa, well, my grandfather started taking us to,
with the dude that cut his mustache off.
He started taking us to class to get out here cut.
Sammy Murphy used to cut out here.
1986, 89, yeah.
Okay.
It was $3 worth $8, Joe.
No, I ain't, I ain't paid a.
But I'm talking about, man, there wasn't nobody paying no.
Man, I wish I might pay $10 for a damn.
I'm here a cut from somebody that ain't got no license.
Man, you better take that $3 and get out my dad.
Yeah, hey, hey, hey.
I ain't, but, but my men's could,
cut, though. He used to use a blade
everything back in. Yeah. Yeah.
Hey, as a matter
fast as I say, bro, hey, I go
hey, because Wappers back then, Joe, you get
to have a special on Wapper some days that
you get a Wapper for 99 cents.
Hey, bro, I get you
a Wopper in the Pride and soda.
Hey, you can go
to Wendez and get that 99 cent double
stack, baby. Hey, hey, oh. Yeah.
I was in there, hey, I had a little hookup at
Winders. I go to that, give me a couple of them
99 stack, double, them double stacks,
with some nuggets?
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Hey, this,
because I had to hook up at McDonald's.
We could walk to,
Burger King,
because Burger King
was at the end of the campus,
so we could walk down there,
Whopper, you know,
a wopper with cheese
with 99 cent.
But I had to hook up at McDonald's,
sent Hillary.
Yeah.
Thank you.
I'd go get two Big Macs,
a 20-piece nugget,
super-sized fries,
supersized drink,
two apple pies.
Oh, yeah, boy, you,
You, hey, love.
Every Friday.
I ain't miss a Friday.
And then I got in good with her manager, and her manager would look it up for you.
Yeah.
Hey, hey, next door to the wind is was a Sonic.
And I had to hook up there, Sonic.
Oh, so we have a sonny.
I should go to get that big grape slush.
Yeah, yeah.
See, we got the slush at a circle tape.
Yeah, oh, okay.
Y'all got circled.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Tightest.
Back up.
He'll come here
He's gonna here
Starts and bull to jive
Yeah
But those
Those with the time
And then you know
We get that
We get that work steady money
Hey
We go
And me and the guys
We go to rhymes
Hey
All you can eat buffet
The wings
That mac and cheese
And them
That bread
With that
Oh
Cut her
Boy they know
They know
Hey
Hey
You leave a
Bout
That fat fool
What?
Because in spring, we have spring balls.
So every Saturday that's what we would do.
Take a shower.
Hey, we go, hey.
We go to the arrive.
It would be about 10, 15 of us.
I'm talking about A, A.
Because I know you're going to do, yeah.
Yeah.
Hey, hey, hey, hey.
The dessert at them buffet, boy, used to be off the chain in a man.
Oh, yeah.
man, they got chocolate chip.
They got, I'm not a brownie's guy, though, Joe.
I'm not a brownie's guy.
But, you know, they got that sauce served ice cream.
Chocolate, strawberry, vanilla.
Yeah, yeah, they got that.
And then they had that, then they add that squirrel.
You go crazy.
Yeah.
Bad Joe.
I know exactly what you're talking about.
Bad Joe.
Hey, I swear, I know what you're talking about.
Hey, do they have, do they still have rhymes?
Anybody know if they still have rhymes available somewhere?
I need to go to the rhyme.
Man, we had a, I think it used to be called bananas.
when I was a
Okay, yeah, that was a TV show.
You remember Bananza?
You used to come on?
Well, Haws Cartwright, Joe Cartwright,
Big Ben, Carwright.
I don't remember that.
There was a Western called Manza.
And the ranch was called the Pondon.
Oh, okay.
Big Ben was your dad.
Hoss, Little Joe.
Little Joe was Michael London,
who also starred in Little House of America.
He was the dad in Little House in the House of America.
He was the dad in Little House and a Pondon.
Prairie.
There ain't no remote rinds.
Damn.
Yeah, I think they
I still think they got, I still think they got
country buffet. What about country buffet?
Well, hey, me and my mama,
we hit up, we hit that, we hit that buffet,
oh boy, like it wasn't nothing.
Man, Joe, I ain't even know what the buffet was.
I ain't know what the buffet was until my, like,
my freshman year, my freshman sophomore year
in high school, coach told us to say, hey,
If y'all run good down here, we in Savannah,
say if y'all run good, I'm going to take y'all to a buffet.
I'm like, man, what's a buffet?
Ain't nobody knows.
Man, I don't know.
Hey, he's saying you're going to take us out to eat so good.
Man, we went down and tore it up, Joe.
We're going to eat.
We go in first place.
So we go to this place.
Coach Hall, he paid, and we go.
I see all his food.
I see chicken.
I see pork shop, green beans, matching cheese, rice, rice,
I see all this stuff.
So I'm just looking around.
I said, man, what we do?
Somebody said, man, I think you just go around
and you can get whatever you want.
I say, huh?
So we can get whatever we want?
And like, yeah, I think that's what a buffet is.
I think you just get whatever you want.
Lady walked by.
I said, ma'am, I would like, she said, no, it's help you.
Yeah.
You get whatever.
Oh, you cut up.
Now you know
And we ain't never been to
No buff baby, you know?
Then first place.
So, Joe,
that fried chicken.
So we got on our tracksuits.
I got fried chicken.
I put fried chicken in my pocket.
Hey, I'm wrapping cookies up
in paper and tissue
and putting them up pockets.
So,
Coach,
all will see them.
He don't say nothing.
We don't eat a belly foot.
I'm stuffed, Joe.
I'm talking about I'm stuffed.
I'm stuffed.
I'm stuffed.
I said, Lord, have mercy.
We get on the bus.
Coach Hall, get on the mic.
Hey, suckers, it's all you can eat.
Not all you can eat to take out.
Man, I saw all that chicken up there.
I saw all that food up there.
I said, ma'am, I'm taking some of this stuff on to my grandpa and sister.
Man, y'all must be my job of mine.
I think I ain't going to take nothing.
I'm out of here.
ain't not like that buffet boy
I'm talking about
I'm talking about you eat to your stomach hurt
yeah you do
eat to your stomach hurt yeah
yeah and you like
hey I see my girl would always say
boy your eyes leave your stomach
and it is
you absolutely right Grady
I'm gonna eat I'll eat I'm
you made myself sick
yeah
I made myself I ain't I ain't never seen
that much food before
unless it's out of church
and do you know you don't fix
on plate, the old lady's fix you played in the church.
And they ain't fin to give you all that stuff.
You know, hey, you might get a two-piece, you know, a wing and a short thigh.
You know, you might get two pieces of chicken.
You get some black-eyed peas, some mac and cheese, some greens, and a slice of bread
and some cornbread that they made it.
Is it?
Man, I see all the butter rolls up there, all that stuff.
I say, man.
Hey, hey, by the time you get the dessert, you're already full, but I'm already stuffed.
I'm already stuffed.
I'm just eating dessert just because I wouldn't just say I ate some dessert.
I ain't got no more room to put nothing
That's how I go
That's how I go
Yeah
But I had
You know
Had a teammate
They could go throw up
And then come back
Oh man
Come on
Yeah
No
No
That's too much
That's too much
Man
I couldn't do that
We are
They used to have pizza
Pizza Hut
Used to be the thing
On Tuesday night
They have a buffet of pizza
all you need pizza probably was like
$5.99, $19.
So, you know, they have all the pieces out there.
I've always been a very simple.
Just give me ground beef, cheese, I'm good.
You know, I'll eat pepperoni here and there now,
but I ain't all that pineapple, all that other stuff,
the black olives and the green peppers.
I don't, onions, I don't vote that for pizza.
Me, me and two of my teammates, Mayor Joe,
I think I ate like 18 slices.
Damn.
Thin slices.
pizza. Yeah.
And then I had, we had a homeboy named Big Willie, Big Willie probably.
He was a freshman like me.
Big Willie probably about six-fold, probably about three-fifty.
Man, Big Willie ate like 22 slices.
He ate spaghetti.
He ate lasagna.
And man, that joke was saying, hey, no, man, look here.
That joke was losing that belt.
Hey.
I think I made the mistake.
Oh, Joe, is that I was drinking too much.
Because, you know, I like the, I like the, I like that.
drink, eat drink.
He just ate, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight.
He ate, eight, eight, eight. He ate like ten slices before he just had a little silk.
Oh, no.
I couldn't do that.
Oh, no.
No.
No, I don't want no, I'll just want ground beef.
Like I said, I'll eat a little pepperoni now, but I just want ground beef.
I'll give me double ground beef, a hamburger, whatever they call it, and cheese.
I'm good.
I used to do a little bacon here and there, but I'm simple.
I don't want no pineapples.
I don't want no anchovies.
I don't want no olives.
I don't want no onions.
I don't want no pineapples.
I don't want none of that.
Hey, hey,
give me that deep dish meat lovers, pause.
I'm going to.
Joe, that's,
that thing.
I'm going to town.
You ain't going to eat but slice?
No, no.
You give me one, when I ain't got
nothing in my system, I can get a few
slices down, boy.
Hey, we'll see, that's,
that's that, see, you order a deep dish
and you eat a couple slices?
That's that high.
That's that high, homie.
When they crust, when they crust hitting right, it's real crunchy.
Oh, yeah.
Well, I'm going in.
I ain't going to lie to you.
Yes, sir.
According to Mark Stein, Joe, multiple draft expert legitimately believe Wizards could take Darren Peterson over A.J. DeBonza at number one.
Wow.
I don't see that.
I don't know what the report is coming from, but, I mean, just when you look at the makeup, hell, 6'9, you can't teach height, okay?
Now, if you got the height and you got some game to go with it,
it's just hard for me to believe that the Wizards is going to pass up on AJ
the Bonsor, bro.
That's hard for me to believe.
That's hard for me.
Now, I know the kid out of Kansas, Darren Peterson.
I know he's a hell of a talent he can play.
But, boy, listen, they both great talents.
But if I had to pick one, I'm going AJ one, bro.
I agree with you.
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The Portland Trail Blazers pass on Michael Jordan to select Sam Bowie.
The Royals passed on Bill Russell.
Minnesota take two point guards.
Ricky Rubio and Johnny Flynn at 5 and 6 and pass on Steve Curry.
The Blazers take Greg Oden over Kevin Durant.
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The sons and the king.
They passed on Luca Donchich.
The Sonics traded Scotty Pippins for, what's the guy?
He was from Virginia.
Oh, okay.
That's who they traded him for Old and Polynes.
Ah, man.
The Blazers take Leroux Martin over Bob McAdoo.
The Grizzlies take Hashim Thamee over James Hardin.
And I remember this.
The Warriors traded Robert Parrish,
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to the Celtics for number one.
Joe Barry Carroll.
If I'm not mistaken,
Joe Barry Carroll was a Purdue Baller Maker.
I don't know what the hell of Minnesota was thinking,
taking Rubio and Flynn,
you know, back to back like that under A.A.
There's stuff like that that haunt you, bro.
Like, you pass on step on.
Yeah, I just think sometimes these GMs,
they overthink it.
You know what I mean?
It's just like, if you ask me,
it's just like this draft.
If you don't take AJ first, you're just over damn thinking it.
You know, I know, hey, I know Peterson probably don't want to go to Utah.
If Utah probably going to take Booza, but, man, if I...
But the thing is, why would I take Peterson when I got Trey?
That's what I'm saying.
That's what I'm saying.
Like, you're going to go get another guard.
You already got a hell of a point guard than Trey.
When you can go get this six, nine feet, nine who can do every damn thing.
Damn.
Yeah.
Didn't Joe back here I go to Purdue?
I'm almost certain he did.
Mm.
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How do I, how do I deal
with my baby mother being bitter
about a new woman and saying she's jealous
even though she has a new man?
I want to just focus on the child
and nothing you can do.
Just make it look. Don't ever
go back and, you know,
do what you did to get this baby.
That's a problem.
When you double, hey, hey,
you're looking at your baby mama and you double back and when you're doing that bro
it's going to be a lot of confusion conflict that's going to bring all yeah you can't do that
bro he's not do that leave it leave it slippery slope wow you very very and I understand some of you
you know you might have a very attractive mama and she's looking good and she's like we can
be together but i'm telling you bro you're asking for trouble and and look some might be cool
I mean, you know, you went, I went through that when I had, you know, and well, why you can't be with me, but some things are just offered without explanation.
But whatever you do, bro, don't you, don't, hey, don't you spend the block.
You can't, bro.
And when they withholding the child and won't let you see your child, you got to hold them emotions, bro.
You can't, you, because, see, they want you to act a fool.
That's what they want.
You can't act no fool, man.
Hey, take, take it.
Take it however it may come.
You got to deal with however you got to deal with it.
And the system is not set up for the man.
Oh.
Because if you act a certain way, the courts are going to step in and make you act accordingly.
They act a certain way, they're going to be like, oh, well, you know, you guys just need to work it out.
Are we, I, we ain't got no rights.
No, I ain't tell it what somebody tells me.
Tell me what I know.
I know.
Yeah, I'm with you.
Boy, I don't been there.
So I just say, bro, just do the best you can.
Just make sure you be there for the child.
Do whatever you can for the child because like you said,
she's moved on.
She got a new man.
But the problem is she wants to hold you hostage because they feel that
the connection and they know that you want to be.
Most, some, not all.
There's some men like, hell, you do whatever you want to do.
I ain't got to see the child so forth and so on.
But for the most part, most men want to see their kids.
And they hold the kids as a ploy, as a hostage, as leverage.
and it shouldn't be that way.
And then the kid grows up thinking that the father didn't want to be a part of his life.
The kid grows up with a resentment towards his father, not knowing the mother played a huge role in that.
Yep.
Yep.
And you saw the Michael Beech guys, I had Michael Beasley on you.
You heard what his mom was telling him that wasn't the truth.
Because when he had an opportunity to talk to his dad, his dad said, I tried to see you.
I would come over there.
your mom would take all my money and still wouldn't let me see you.
So he built up a resentment towards her.
Yeah, man.
I get it.
When you, you know, everybody says all the thing, yeah, I want to be with you and you want to, you know, you have a child and you bring another, you bring a life into this world.
And I know, maybe it was a lie where I'm going to be with you forever.
Things happen.
Things happen.
And you have to go your certain, your separate ways.
But don't use the kid.
as leverage. Don't use the kid as a ploy to get back.
It's supposed to be you and your co-parent
for the best interest of the child. It should never be in the best
interest of you. It should never be in the best interest of me.
What is in the best interest of the child?
Well. And it's hard because when emotions get involved,
there's a lot of times you say and do things that you wouldn't normally do.
And don't let them, don't let them know that you really
love your child and you really want to be in your child.
Oh, man.
Boy, they're going to make a hell on you.
They're going to make a hell on you.
But I would just say, bro, just pray and just hope.
Before you know it, you'll blink and the child will be big enough and can have
its own, have his or her own phone and they can have to be a direct line of communication.
But in the meantime, bro, it's tough.
And someone has gone through a similar situation.
That's a hundred.
And then when you look back at it and, you know, I was able to sit down at
like, you know, hey, there were some mistakes that were made that we could have done things
a lot different.
We could have made, we could have done things a lot different.
But me being who I am kind of, bro, I ain't been to let you get up.
No.
I ain't even let you get up.
You got to fight back now.
You got to fight back.
Yeah.
Love both athletes and both all times great, but do you think created more negative ripple
effect than that sport?
Steph Curry with all these threes and everyone liked to shoot of Floyd since everyone wants to finish undefeated.
I think both, bro.
Like, I think even in the boxing world, you know, you have a lot of these guys who don't want that,
who don't want that one or their astrid on the side of their record.
So everybody wants to keep the O.
And in basketball, yes, I think Curry has definitely changed the game.
Well, to where guys shoot these 30, 40 foot three-pointers, you know what I mean, thinking they step.
And some are successful, some aren't.
But I think they both are a significant part of, you know,
definitely the boxing world with the O and with guys shooting these long threes, bro.
I think the thing is that for me, I think Floyd,
because I don't think when I look at the historic greats,
I don't think anybody look at Roberta Duran.
I don't think anybody look at Hagler or Sugar Ray or Tommy Hernes or Muhammad Ali
and say, well, they're not great because they're not undefeated.
If you go back and look at it, most people have Rocky Mars and Arnold
ranked below a lot of these heavyweights, even though he was undefeated.
And so now we don't get the fights that we should get because everybody is ducking.
Everybody says, well, I mean, if I get, if I, if I don't, if I'm getting a blemished on my
resume, people are not going to look at me the same.
and that's sad because it's the opposite of the MMA.
Yeah, I will.
I mean, George St. Pierre still gets ranked as one of the greats,
even though he has a loss.
And, Uncle, when you look at it, you got to look at the error that we're in, too.
You know what I mean, the social media era.
Everything is magnified times 100 nine days.
As opposed to back then, you take a, yeah, everybody knew about it,
but now, here, it's going to be so many clips that you're getting your ass.
knocked out or losing.
You know what I mean?
A lot of cats don't want to have to feel their ripple effect.
And because I grew up in the 80s,
I remember all the great fighters fighting each other.
Sugar Ray fought Tommy Hurons.
Tommy Hurons fought Roberto Durr.
They fought Hagler.
They fought Iran Barclay.
In the 70s, the heavyweights,
Norton and Frazier and Ali and Foreman,
those guys fought Ron Lyles.
They fought.
It wasn't no ducking and dodging.
I think maybe you got too many belts now.
Because everybody's like, well, I got the IBF belt,
then my belt is more valuable than WBO and the WBA and the WBA and the ring magazine.
Nobody wants to fight.
Everybody wants to end their record undefeated.
And unfortunately, you think ending your record,
ending your career undefeated is going to put you in front of some of these other,
but you're going to be very, very disappointed when it doesn't happen.
And a lot of these top fighters don't fight as frequent as those guys did back then.
No, no.
I think the money is much different now, Joe.
I think the thing, because, you know, you make 10, 15, 20 million in a fight.
Guys back then weren't making that kind of money.
And so you had to fight.
Guys were fighting three, four times a year.
You might, at max, you might have got to get a guy fighting in March or April,
maybe May and then fight late September early October.
But at max, you're getting two fights.
Max, most of the time you probably get one.
And they're going to take a couple years off here.
Because they're sitting so fat now when it comes to come to these paychecks
when they come to boxing, you know, it's just a lot different now.
It is.
It's very different and it is what it is.
And I think that's why a lot of people have gone away from boxing.
because they don't see the fights that they want to feed.
Imagine if Lennox Lewis and Holyfield and Riddick Bow
and all those guys to Razor Ruddick's and if they didn't fight.
Them boy getting to it.
Come on, man.
How y'all in the same era and y'all don't never cross paths?
That's not possible.
Man, y'all have been seeing James Winston.
That dude has been a real dual star hosting the World Cup on Fox.
I have not, but I know he is a character.
You know, I've seen him, you know, in the huddle and saying certain things and in the warm-ups.
Yeah, he definitely has a media career.
Oh, yeah, yeah, more time.
They're going to hold him up.
I can see that now.
I can see that now.
Hey, guys, welcome to Priceland, aka Minnesota, Joe.
If you're looking for a great restaurant, go to my high school classmates, Italian restaurant,
Dario in the North Loop in Minneapolis.
Let me write that down, Dario.
That's Lainey Ray.
She's a Minnesota native.
Oh, that's right here.
That's right down the street from us.
Eight minutes from me.
All right, I'm going to go check them out.
You like Italian?
Yeah.
You don't like Italian food one?
You don't care for it?
You're a soul food, brother.
Man, I grew up.
I grew up on Shoeblood.
all these spaghetti meatballs in the can.
So,
they're chopped up hot dog.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I mean, I'm trying to think when the last time I had lasagna,
I don't know, probably 15 years.
Spaghetti, probably just as long.
I mean, when Shelley comes out here and she goes to this Italian place
and she'll just get, like, you know, they have these,
she'll get spaghetti and meatballs, but they have these meatballs made with,
yeah.
And they're probably about the size of a, you know,
They're probably about the size.
I already know it.
Ooh.
In your prime, would you rather fight A, John Jones in a cage match or B,
you can only do number two in a portie party party at a construction site for a week's screen?
Which one you pick it?
You're probably going to pick that porta potty.
You better leave John Jones' ass alone.
Hey, let me go.
I'll go ahead and choke me out.
Hey, go and get choked out.
You're going to let him choke you out versus you there,
Port-a-potty.
Yep.
Yep.
That man said, a porta-potty on the construction site.
Man, you know how many of the asses doesn't have been on that porta-potty?
It's hot.
Oh, no.
I'm going to check number two.
It's all right.
Oh, shit.
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Questions.
What do the nuggets and the sixes need to do to get back in playoff contention?
Would there be a live nightcap episode of the NBA draft?
Yes.
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Late run, go team USA.
I think for the sixes, maybe you do have to get off M.B.
And go get and try to find something where you can get some draft capital back,
whether you can get an all-star caliber player back.
Because when I watched them play, obviously the injury is hurting,
but it's just so stagnant offensively when he's out there.
The ball doesn't move.
It sticks a lot.
And it's hard for guys like Edge coming maxi to be in rhythm.
You know, when I've watched them play, obviously in the postseason.
So I think he still has some great value in him.
I think he just needs to go to a different situation, bro.
Who was the other team that you asked about?
The Nuggets.
The Nuggets.
I think the Nuggets need to stay healthy.
I think if Aaron Gorn can stay healthy,
because remember they took OKC two years ago to a game seven
and Gordon was hurt this year Gordon was hurt
Watson
Ain't this Gordon country and don't he get paid this summer
I think they can't they can do it is he up
or does he have one year left Aaron Gordon?
I don't know man
because boy Jay McDaniel had
had Jamal Murray in a straight jacket
you know that's that's just a that's just a tough matchup for uh that was a tough matchup
oh his deal starts this year well he already own a new deal so how much you pay how much
what he get he got three years 103 so basically 30 almost 35 a year yeah if he can stay healthy
man they'll be all right and you get that Watson kid get him taken care of if he can health
plays a major role because i think they probably tried to move on from christin brown yeah i think so
too i don't think he didn't give him what they probably anticipated
I mean, he played pretty good in that championship year.
But once they figured him out, it was a rap.
Yep.
Yo, what up, Big Three.
Next Friday, Unks' birthday, there's a World Cup game in H-Town.
Sounds like the perfect time to reunite at the devil's playground.
What we doing?
What are we doing?
I know Ocho down.
Hell, I ain't got to ask him.
What you thinking?
Thanos.
You want Daddy to be home or you want Daddy to be on the road?
There you have to go.
He said, man, you have to be that question.
We're definitely going to be on.
I'll be working on my birthday.
I don't know how I asked playing that,
but I'm working on my birthday I got the day after off.
Yeah.
We off on Friday?
Okay.
No, we off.
Okay.
Yay.
Huh?
29.
What are your birthday?
28th or 29, Joe?
29.
I think that's...
We're working on yours.
It's okay.
That's okay.
That's okay.
That's okay.
I said the same watching soccer.
Every sports need a national flopper.
Yeah, do, man.
Like, you got to be...
Hey, man, you got to take that flopping out of the sports.
Because, look, when I'm sitting here watching the soccer games,
hell, I don't know if a dude really hurt or not when he's laying down now.
I'm like, damn.
They play...
They have some good acting jobs out there now.
Who's a greater coach, Phil Jackson,
or Greg Popovich?
I'm probably going to go Popp, bro.
I think Phil, Phil, just,
Phil had arguably, hell,
he had the best damn.
He had four to ten greatest players
never played.
At least three, excuse me,
three of the greatest,
he could, you could say Phil Jackson,
coach three of the greatest ten players
to ever play in the NBA.
Yeah, and, and I think Pop only had one.
Pop had, you take it from a guy
who then played against Pop in a couple play-out series.
Hey man, he wanted the best to do it, bro.
He wanted the best ever do it.
A car watch detail service.
Ha-ha, dad, hiding in the attic was sad.
Yeah, that was, bro.
Damn.
And you don't know if he's embarrassed, you know.
You don't, it's easy to stand and judge someone else's,
judge someone else from your own yard where you don't know what's actually going on
inside their home.
And then a lot of times when I,
you know, for me,
is that when I sit across from someone,
I'm just,
I'm just listening.
I'm not judging them.
I don't know their situation.
I don't know that man's situation.
I don't know.
I don't know the trauma that he's had in his life.
Because a lot of time,
Joe,
if you don't hear from the trauma that you've suffered,
you'll bleed on someone even though they didn't cut you.
Hello.
And that happens a lot.
You mask it,
you just deal with it,
you suppress you.
and unbeknownst to you,
you're doing a lot of the same thing
that you had done to you.
Hey, man, when I heard that man
say, he said his dad, he said he talked to him
through the door.
Through the door, yeah.
Yeah, that's cold-blooded doubt.
What was it like having to deal with
D.T. and Neil Smith twice a year.
It was hell.
It was hell.
Because Kansas City back then, there were no defense.
They had Neil and,
They had Neil and DT on one side.
They had Joe, Dan Salamua, Big Joe Phillips.
They had at first, they had Albert Lewis and Kevin Ross,
and then they got D.C. and James Hasty.
Early, they had DeRon Cherry.
They were defensively.
They were loaded.
In that stadium, y'all know the stadiums loudest,
is one of the loudest stadiums.
In the NFL.
and boy, when that thing was ratcheted up,
then Neil came and joined us.
Please consider the following.
An IRS stream at a buffet, a buffet.
Please, this would heal the country.
If you streamed at a buffet?
Oh, man, listen.
I think, no, no, no, no.
I'm trying to think, who does a buffet?
I think there's a place called country buffet.
I think they might still be in existence.
There used to be one on Buford Highway.
There's got to be some buffets still around somewhere on.
Chad, is there any famous buffets that we're missing?
I try to do away from the buffet because people just let their kids go up there and be playing all in the food and the ice cream and the kid.
I already know what you're talking about.
So I've kind of old country.
That might be the name of Old Country Buffet.
and you go up there, man,
and touch the towel on every cookie up there.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
They grab it the chicken with the house.
Oh, huh?
Old country buffet.
It's still open?
Golden Corral is a buffet?
Yeah, I think so.
I've never been.
I ain't know Golden Corral was a buffet.
Yeah.
$150 for a buffet?
That's how much a buffet cost?
now?
And the casinos?
Oh, casino.
Yeah, because, Joe, they'd be having endless crab leg.
They have lobster tail and shrimp and all that, so they got to get their money back.
Now, I don't eat all that.
Hey, I got your little quick 2025.
Give me a couple pieces of fried chicken, a country fried steaks, a pork chop,
is a mac and cheese and macfaxies.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Hey, them casino.
Ain't no way I can eat $150.
Oh, yeah, them casino got the mean scheme going, boy.
Yeah.
Yeah, I can't eat.
I can't eat that kind of food like that.
I know, I think the wind has a buffet that.
Oh, they got some.
That's typically why I stay when I go to Vegas.
Boy, they got some good.
Oh, the wind?
Okay.
Where you stay?
He said, I live in my, he said, I live in my pen.
That concludes this episode of Nightcap.
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Thanks to a.
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They play very, very well.
They're plus five in the gold margin.
They can win the group outright.
The Paraguay draws.
What if they need to win?
They need to lose a draw, right?
And I think they win the group outright.
But USA's look good in their first two matches.
They dominated.
They've beaten teams that they should beat
instead of playing down to the competition
and not playing as well as people that would expect.
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They played extremely well in these situations.
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