Club Shay Shay - Nightcap - Hour 2: Ja Morant ruining career, Nikola Jokic best center ever, Russell Westbrook avoids media

Episode Date: April 12, 2025

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson recap the best hoops stories of the week, including Ja Morant ruining his career with gun gesture, Steve Kerr calling Nikola Jokic the best center ever, Russell Westbrook not being accountable, & much more!04:16 - Russell Westbrook avoids media12:36 - UConn wins National Championship22:12 - Houston beats Duke in thriller40:40 - Steve Kerr calls Nikola Jokic the best center ever47:47 - Ja Morant is ruining his career(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Russell Westbrook avoided the media for three games after he screwed up the Wolves. After Lee gave him a warning, this is not how, this is how he reacted after the Nuggets lost to the Pacers last night. Let's take a look. You guys in the kinesis right now and get right to the end of the regular season. I'm not sure.

To be honest. Your coach just mentioned the urgency of the situation trying to avoid the holly in right now. Do you feel like in this locker room there's a sense of losing? Oh no man, you know, not sure. You know, maybe. Lufthaus Michael E. Wallace called this team one of the most resilient we've seen this season. You obviously are able to draw from so many experiences. What can you kind of try to draw from to help with teasing this situation?

Your style is frantic. What is your color? Oh, I'll have to ask before, man. I wish I did, but unfortunately I don't have to answer for you, but I wish I did. But unfortunately, I don't, you know. What's frustrating you the most right now? Let me probably just lose it. Yeah. Where's the confidence of this? Can figure something out in the next three games and,

you know, be on the right path in the postseason? I hope it's on. I can't speak to everybody in the locker room, but, um, you know, my head stays high, get ready for it. What does that? You don't like the answers? Let me ask you a question, Ocho. Let me ask you a question.

And this is, you've been in the locker room, but I've been in the locker room. We've had some great wins. We've had some terrible losses. Had they won these games, is he actually behaving any better? I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean,

I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, been in the locker room, I've been in the locker room, we've had some great wins, we've had some terrible losses. Had they won these games, is he actually behaving in this manner? Probably not. Your answers are always different when you're on a high

and you've won a game, you know that. Now most of the time as a player, as a competitor, especially Russell Westwood, he know how he carried himself. He carried everything on his shoulders. Very passionate, very enthusiastic about the way he plays. You know, when things aren't going well, he carried everything on his shoulders. Very passionate, very enthusiastic about the way he plays. You know, when things aren't going well,

he wears that on the shoulders. You know that. Why didn't they go well? Who missed that layup? Who turned the ball over? Right. Now he didn't go on three games without talking to the media.

You know that's a part of the obligation. that's a part of the obligation. That's a part of the obligation. That's why you make the big bucks. And now when things go bad, you don't wanna talk. But when you get those triple doubles, you can beat him to the microphone. That's their song. You see, Ocho, I tell people this all the time.

What you do is your profession. A profession, that's a professional. A pro is how you go about doing your job. They're entirely two different things. And sometimes people confuse the two. You can be a professional without being a pro. And you can be a pro without being a pro and you can be a pro without being a professional. One thing I pride myself, I hated to lose, I did.

When I was growing up, I would cry, I would kick things and tear things and my greatest said, I'm gonna tear your ass up because you're not gonna win everything in life. And you're not gonna be doing this. I just don't want it man. you're not gonna win everything in life. And you're not gonna be doing this. I just don't get it, man. That's just- Hey, I got a question. And you know me, I mean, you know Westbrook, Westbrook, where I, Westbrook, Brenna,

I don't know him, I just know from what I've seen. That's my homeboy, a very good friend of mine. But the games where he didn't speak, the games where they may have been caused by him and his errors. Do you fault them for not talking to the media, without having a cool down and having a chance of saying the wrong things? Yes! You got three games? Yeah. So let me ask you a also I'm just asking I just want to ask you a question. I'm just asking no it's see so everybody else

Nicole Yogan's had to stand up there and take one even though he had that 61 point triple He had to stand there and face the music Everybody else has to stand and face the music You see I'm big on accountability I'm wrong. I'm wrong. I just have to be mad enough to come stand before you to get out. I was wrong. I made a mistake. I've got to be better. I'm not perfect. I like that. But my goal is to hopefully one day that to show you that this is not who I am. No matter what it is, no matter what it is. Because I've

been in a situation where I've lost. Like I said, I dropped a touchdown that would have given us home field advantage throughout the playoffs. You go stand before the music. Because I believe sunshine's going to fall rain. I'm not going to drop him anymore. But if I do, I'm going to be mad enough to stand before you and say, hey, I dropped it. This one's on me.

John threw a perfect pass. Everybody did everything right. All I had to do was my job in that situation. That's the ball. I failed. Yes, sir. Don't put it on anybody else. Don't talk about it.

It's no team. Yes, it's a team. But that play, they trusted me in that moment. And I let 53 guys down, and I let everybody in the stadium, and I let every Bronco fan down. That's on me, I gotta wear that. And I don't just wear it for tonight,

I wear it for the rest of my life. That's live. Now listen, now that's live, but you do have to understand, everybody done conduct themselves that way. That kind of professional manner, that's- Well, see what you did? That's a good one, that was good.

We just talked about this last night What do we want women to do except what? Accountability they will never do that on but I hear you talking you can't ask them to accept accountability if you're not willing to accept Accountability that is a this is that that's dope. You could never ask more than you will Hey, that's that's two different sides of the spectrum But I like when you're going with it because I'm picking up what you're putting down though. I tell you that That's a good one accountability accountability

Yes, you have to be you have to hold yourself. Yes. Yes. We're not perfect the hardest thing for me to learn is my sister say Shannon as much as you try to be perfect you're not going to be I Understand you do all this stuff and you want, but Shannon, you're human. And a lot of times, humans have frailties. We have vices. You own it and you try to move forward. I just don't like this.

I don't like this. Russ is too good of a player. He's been a good player for a long time. He's not the same player that he once was, but he's a good player in his situation that he's in. It's not like this is the first time that Russ has had a snap poop that potentially that didn't help his team win.

It happens. And listen, he's had many times that he's had, he has helped his team win. You know, they so happen to be on the other side of the story right now. And he does. Play long enough. Play long enough, think about it.

Peyton, Tom, everybody, all the greats. Michael, LeBron, Kobe, everybody's had moments like that. Mm-hmm. If you play long enough, you are going to have moments like what he had. I don't think any less of Russ, because I mean, look, he missed a layup. He's not the first professional athlete,

the first professional Hall of Fame MVP player to miss a layup. Patrick Ewing missed one in the playoffs. Y'all remember against the Pacers. Point blank. He got called between. Do I dunk it or do I... And he hit it. Boom. Hit the back of the iron. Happens. Play long enough. If you play a sport long enough, you're going to have something happen. You have... If you play baseball, you're going to miss a, you're going to miss a pop fly ball. We're going to have an error and lead the runs. It happens.

It's a part of the game. But I just wish in that situation, that wouldn't happen. But it is hopefully, hopefully it's something that he can learn from and move forward and play well in the playoffs and all this thing will be a thing of the past. Winning here is all. Kay Martin, Yukon, Lady Huskies, Top of the Lady Gamecars from South Carolina to record

their twelfth straight, I mean, excuse me, their twelfth overall NCAA titles. Paige Beckers exits on top all season. As a FUD, Sarah Strong, Paige Becker's was too much as all three made the all-tournament team. FUD had 24 points to lead UCAR and was named most outstanding player. I knew this game was over. When Paige Becker's had three points

and it was already up 12, I said, well, it's over. She ain't even really doing a whole lot and the game is already over, K-Mart. Hey, it was a hell of a performance by them, especially defensively, man. You look at that box score for South Carolina, like yo, like, the fine time not to be able to make shots in the way you gonna play it, man.

Shout out to you, Kahn Karne Page going out on top. Yeah. You can't, with all the hype, man, you don't think that is going to end this way. Coming off of what happened to Transpire last year, with Caitlin Thorpe with all the hype she had going into the game and the tournament and playing the way she did and Being able to piggyback on that success for women's basketball with another dominant performance by another another person that's she's almost as famous as them a

Cable and almost you know what I'm saying so To have someone piggyback on that success and to win it, shout out to her, shout out to UConn, shout out to the women's gang. And no one saw this coming, but UConn, I'm assuming. I think the thing is, K-Mart, is that people don't realize as a true freshman, Paige Becker was the player of the year. The injuries robbed her. She was in that class. It was her. It was Caitlin Clark. It was Angel Reese.

It was Cardosa. They was all in the 2020 class. When Paige got hurt, she did. But people don't realize how great Paige Becker was brought to these injuries. Now, I think in order for her to go like, hey, when Rebecca Lobo and Sue Bird and Tarasi

and Mymore and Stewie, when all those in the fisha, when all of those are sitting at the table, Paige Becker's getting to pull a wheelchair now because that was the only thing that was missing on her resume, K-Mart. She had been Player of the Year. She had gone to Final Fours. The thing with UConn, in order to be in that group, they hang banners. They hang

banners. That's what them great players do. It started with Rebecca Lobo group and then Sue Bird and Tarasi and and Tina Charles, and Maya Moore, and Stewie, and all of them, you gotta hang banners. Absolutely. She got it now. She pulled her chair up. Yeah. She pulled it up.

Go ahead. Hey, I mean, you know, congratulations to UConn and what they've been able to do. Gino winning his, what was this for him? 12th. His 12th championship. But for the Lady Gamecocks, what does Dawn, what does Dawn Staley need to do?

Or what does she need to come inside that room to get back to the top? You know, scoring, better players. Yeah, shooters. No, you're gonna get everybody's best shot, man. Listen, one, you got all of them all Americans, man. It's just like UConn used to be. Tennessee was the haunted forever.

Right. USC was the haunted. UConn was the haunted. Now South Carolina is the haunted. Right. People, you're gonna get them schools best shot every time you play it, right? Yes, sir.

It's bulletin board material. They got all these all Americans. They got all these McDonald's. They've been doing this. They do this. They got commercials. They that they is they, you get here and all this leading up to this game. And it just add fuel to this fire that you already got burning.

Right. You want to go out and compete. So you don't get that best shot, man. Right. Whatever she do, I'm pretty sure they're going to go back to the drawing board. Yeah. And they still held the team, still in the dynasty. They still. But if you think about South Carolina, they got no star, they got no dominant player, and they made it to the championship game.

You look at Sarah Strong is a true freshman. He gave her 24 and 15. She nice. Asi Fudd was an All-American. She's coming back. Paige Becker was once college player of the year. She was there. So you got three big guns. Look at Carolina. Carolina had one player in double fixed, two players in double fixed.ix off the bench with team off the bench You're the artist gave you 17 19 21 your starters gave you 24 points on your total your stuff Sarah Strong outscored the starter by herself. She had 24 as a bud She had 24 page beckers had a black night shooting the basketball 5 or 14. She has 17 points shooting the basketball five or 14.

She has 17 points. You're not going to win if one starter from the opposing team outscores your entire starting lineup. You're not gonna win. And the game is gonna be lopsided like it was. And I told my sister, my sister, look, my brother went to Carolina,

so obviously we root for all things Carolina. I told my sister, I said, Libby, they went to game, they went to South Carolina. South Carolina stop their 71 game win streak by damn near 30 You think they gonna beat this team on a neutral side right? No chance Zero well, I got one word for you What that portal? Dog dog gotta go to the portal. Hey, man, one thing, that portal real right now, Jack. Hey, I'm sorry.

I know, I know, I know, I know they got the booths down in South Carolina. They can go get whoever they want. They're gonna bring that, they go back there, bring the truck up to somebody. You gotta pay, you gotta pay to play. Gotta pay to play these days, Jack. Yes, sir. That's right. That's right.

Go ask Nick. I'm just gonna go ask Nick Sabre. He's like, hey man. I'm out. These kids can go wherever they, hey, hold on. It ain't just about football no more. Yeah, I'm out. They compete.

Don Staley closed out on final presser thanking the local media. You guys know our team. You're pretty fair with how you assess our basketball team. If every program had this, we could push women's basketball forward on a local level across the country. You see the difference? When her team lost, she didn't snap at no reporters. Was this good or bad? She didn't do that. You know what? Class personified.

You have to have the same level. You gotta win with dignity. You lose with the same, your same purpose. Absolutely. It ain't no, oh, oh, oh, how many final forms did you been to? Did your team make it this far? There was none of that.

None of that. You see the difference? Yeah, we been here before. We can difference? Yeah, we've been here before. We can't get her again. We've been here before and we're gonna get her again. Yeah, but Don, you're right. She gonna have to go in that portal and get some big guns and I don't know what's out there. Maybe they can put a $3 million package and go get Juju. I was gonna say, what's the point? Hold on, hold on. Maybe they could get a, put a $3 million package and go get Juju. Hey, we're gonna take a little more than that.

Hold on, hold on. Three million? Gonna take a little more than that. But the Pride Juju from USC? Gonna be like 10. Out of Jef and I say 10 too. 10. Out of the 10.

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or wherever you get your podcasts. to win 70 to 67. K-Mart, is this the greatest Final Four tournament comeback in NCAA history? But that amount of time is up there, man. It is up there. Like, them boys, man, listen. And that's the beauty of having older guys. Nah. Right? That's the beauty of having older guys. Now, right. Everybody wants these 19 year old phenoms.

They're great, cool. But when you don't get rattled and you've been there and you've been battle tested and you know, man, that was a pretty good, that was a great basketball game. Very good game. That was a really, really, that was a great basketball game. Very good game. That was a really, really, really, really good basketball game. Well coached, guys played, they tell.

Oh man, so that is a bit, I only have to say for two of them for that one. Ocho. Yeah. With a minute 27 seconds left, they up seven. Man, I'm gonna cut the TV. I said, man, damn, dude gonna win this thing again. I know my homeboy gonna call me, start effing with me. I said, man, damn, dude gonna win this thing again. I know my homeboy gonna call me, start effing with me.

I said, man, shit done got this. And so I let like 20 minutes go by. And then I go to my phone, ESPN. Oh, no, I was on IG. And I see the get out face. The guy got the, he's like, I'm like, what? What are they talking about? And then I read the cool stun the blue devils.

Yeah. I said, oh, I ain't no way somebody I said, there ain't no way, man, I got the TV on and I see everybody just like going crazy. What the hell happened? I got to rewind to go back and see what happened. I ain't got no inbound plays. What? Listen yeah, I know

I know brown I got tight very tight Hey, I know a lot of people lost money yesterday on cuz that's every year everybody bet on Duke to win that game. Yes Cause that's the area everybody bet on Duke to win that game. Yes. Hey, you know, remind me of Kmart. You remember this game when Reggie Miller shot the Knicks. You hit that three. He stole the ball. The Houston guy got the ball in red right behind the three point line. And let it fly and bam. I'm like, oh, my goodness. I'm watching this.

I'm like, oh, my God. We're no time, man. Like just couldn't get the ball up, possession after possession. Like they just kept the pressure on, man. And they did. And they warmed up. And I ain't even been in the game, man.

And they was like, they get it to this point. It can be interesting if they keep it right here. It could be this if they did. Yo. I thought, I thought of three people also. To the right here. It could be, it could be this if they did. Mm-hmm. And yo. I thought, I thought it was pretty important also. To the right time. Yeah. I thought also a time I came out,

you remember in the first half, when Duke had that big lead and Houston hit three threes in a row to close out the first half, okay? They stretched out to a big lead again. And here comes what you call a clawing back. I was like, damn. Y'all, but then they, well back. I was like, damn, y'all.

Then they, when it got a minute, 27, 64, 57, I say, man, y'all, if it a do, I say, y'all, I say, y'all had a great run. Houston. I cut it off. And see the thing about that's dead minute and a half is an eternity in college basketball as long. All right. It's an eternity in college basketball as long. All right. It's an eternity.

And when you guys, them freshmen, so you got a lot of young guys on, because some incoming freshmen, you got freshmen, you got some mid-summer older guys. Them dudes ain't been in them fresh situations, man. Like, just haven't had to show up when the stakes are that high. And, shout out to the man, listen, Houston,

them older dudes, man, them 22, 23, 24 year old dudes. Man. That's the thing, cause you look, K-Part, when you look at, look at Duke, look at all the number one overall draft picks that they have and didn't win the national championship. It started with Elton Brand. You remember in 99, they lost to Yukon.

I think they had like four first round picks that year, but Elton Brand was number one. Kyrie went number one. Zion went number one. Bankero went number one. Waggon go number one. And they- Bagley was two. Huh? Bagley, we told Marvin Bagley, right? Yeah. Flag gonna go number one. And they, none of them, that's two.

Huh? She Bagley, we talked to Marvin Bagley, right, I didn't know he had, I forgot about Bagley. You think about it, Zion went number one, I think RJ went number three, and what he called number four, Cam Reddick. Yes. And you look at Kyrie, went number one.

I think Kyrie and them got bounced in the second round. So it's like, and Coach Greenberg says, yes, when the second round. So it's like, Coach Greenberg says, yes, when you bring on it, it's nice because all these McDonald's All-Americans, you got the number one player, the number three player, the number five player, the number 10 player, the number 12 player in an incoming class. Everybody has been the man on their squad.

How do we get these guys to share, to realize in order for us to get where we wanna go, you're not gonna be able to be the man no more. How small is that? We saw that also with Kentucky. Look at Kentucky with all the times they had the John Walls and the Boogie Cousins and the Devin Bookers and the Shay Gildge and the Tyler Eros

and the Carl Anthony Towns. Look at all those guys that they've had and didn't win the championship. You won Super Bowls, huh? Yes. And winning is a learned behavior, man. Like you're not just showing up as a freshman or as a rookie learning how to win

when guys have been practicing this, have been working at this for years, like you're not just trying to show up and be on campus for eight months thinking you're trying to learn the totality of this game. You come to college as this phenom, but you're incomplete. Like your game and your knowledge for what you're trying to be is incomplete. Right. Okay. So you only, and you only on campus for eight months. And then you're moving on. So you're not really learning everything you need to learn.

And then you get in these precious situations at the end of the year, where you, like you said, you've been the man. So that's all you know when it gets, when the, when the game get on the line, it gets tough. All you think to do is to put on your cake. Yes, like I'm gonna put on my Superman cake. This is my time now, right? So, and if you got five, four or five guys

that used to puttin' on that cake, then you have these results. So my thing is the older guys, man, guys that's been coached and bred and been cussed out and been, had to get on the line for three years and then been did this and then then had to run because they didn't go to class and all that. You ain't fit out. Listen, them dudes hungry and they want it.

I was listening to Kat, excuse me, Ant-Man, talking about when they got behind Serbia and they was down like 13 in the fourth quarter, he says normally when I get into a situation like that, I'm putting that cape on. I'm going, I'm going, hey take this thing over. He said, but I watched Steph, I watched KD, I watched LeBron, swing the ball, dribble kick. And it was like, and the next thing you know and when KD hit that three-point, who was that? Was that Book? I think it was either, and the next thing you know, and when KD hit that three, who was that? Was that book, I think it was either book or KD hit a three point shot and they got five,

it was a four pointer. KD said, yeah, I knew it was over from that point on. And you see the thing is, because you gotta realize now, those other guys you're going to get, they had capes on too. New guys in Houston, like K-Mart said, they're older guys, Ocho. They got the mile test. They averaged about five, the fastest guy ran the mile in like 510. The slowest

ran like 546. They averaged about 519. To put that kind of pressure on, you've got to have a tremendous amount of lung capacity because they're pressuring you 94 feet every time you touch the ball. Yeah. Every time you touch the ball and to keep that kind of relentless pressure on, kind of like Richard used to have the 40 minutes of hell, K-Mart. 40 minutes of hell. We're gonna wear you down. Right. Now, hey, you might get off, but hey, the last three minutes of the ball game, when you gotta think and you gotta execute? Yeah. You gotta deal with that.

You gotta deal with that. That old Amoeba press, baby. That old Amoeba press they used to throw on you, man. Yeah. Nah, nah, nah, man, it's that, man. It's battle tested. Yeah. You got Florida.

You got Houston. Who you like, K-Mart, and why? I'm going with them Texas boys, man. You going all day? I'm not even asking you. You going all day? You ain't. If they have four players, you like eight.

Over Florida? Yeah. K-Mart, man, he from Dallas. He going all day. They going all day. Uh-oh. That ain't Texas, man. Hey, man, from Old Cliff America, baby.

What you talking about? All right. I'm going gonna let you have that. You want, hey, hold on. You wanna put something on it again? Like I said, make it light on yourself, dog. Yeah, listen, I don't turn down nothing but my color. Hey, listen, man, it can be a dinner. I see you smoke stogies.

You can be a stogie. Oh, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. You're smoking dogs. Whatever you, listen, man, whatever you wanna do, you make it light on yourself, brother. All right, wait. Name your dog. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, I like gentlemen's joint. 70 gauge lunatic. What you got? Okay. Oh, I'm going all in. Listen, you're going to have to go to the bank with mine. Trust me, it ain't going to be easy. Oh, so, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh I'ma name mine. Hold on, I don't have to go to the bank to get nothing but no cigar because I got access to that.

So that's easy for me. I get them for free no matter what you getting. My bad player. Yeah, I'm getting laid, you know. My bad killer. See, I try to keep it simple and just name one cigar. I just want about 10, 10 lunatic, 70 gauges, and I was gonna call it a wrap,

but you trying to get spicy. We can do that too. You wanna do get into some gangsta. Yeah, I just can't wait. However you wanna do it. Yeah. Well, if I bet I want my cigar, hey, I want somebody to go plant the stalk in Cuba.

Watch it grow. Watch it grow. Harvest it. So, you gotta go grow. Real one. I'll smoke the cigars. I will let. I've harvested. I've harvested. So, real. Real. I've smoked a cigars. I'm gonna let y'all have that one. So, the bet, Ocho, you want 10 70 gauge lunatic.

I'm sip, listen, I just want 10 70 gauge lunatics. Or you know what, matter of fact, I want 10 70 gauge lunatics, right? Yeah, yeah. Listen to me now. Okay. And I want 10 Daniel Marshall 24 karat gold cigars. We'll make the same bet then.

Same bet. For real? Same bet. Okay, okay. Matter of fact, you smoke that Daniel Marshall, that 24 karat gold cigar? I haven't had it, but you named it, same bet. There it is. There it is.

Hey chat, hey chat, do me a favor in the chat. Tell Kmart how much that Daniel Marshall 24 karat 24 karat gold cigar is. Kmart don't seem to concern himself with that. I would hold. Listen, when and if I cross that bridge when we get to it? Listen, I already know Florida going to win. I already know Florida going to it. Oh, listen, I already know. I'm going to win. I already know. I'm going to win. So you might as well just put more than that. I'm going to more heads, man. All right. I'm going to more heads, man. They won't show up.

Never say anything. Man, they right down the road. Ayo, do you know what this compa- the Alamo don't- You know how many people from the beat come down I-10, man? Right. Hold on, hold on, hold on. I-35't you know how many people from the beat and come down I 10 man, right? Well, you think Florida don't travel well, you don't think the people the people game They can't drive it. Listen, man, they go ahead. I have to I call them This thing I've cost three out of the other cigar. Yeah

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Right. All them Houston fans, they couldn't listen, they couldn't get them on Ticketmouse. So people was trying to look. Hey, they getting them things right now for two. Listen, for pennies on the dock. Hey Kmart, I'm gonna throw in five when you win. Go get my money too while you at it.

I'm gonna throw in five with them cigars. Well, damn, hold on man. What about you? How you gonna side bet? Ain't no side, it's between me and him. No, no, no, I been saying when he wins, I'm gonna give him an extra five. So he gonna get my money while he at it.

While he down there, he gonna get my money. Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah. I'm gonna mail it. I'm not gonna see him in person. I'm gonna just mail it. Nah, hell no. Hey, them Texas boys, man. Them boys all gonna see him in person. I'm gonna just mail it. Nah, hell no. Hey, them Texas boys, man.

Them boys all over, y'all. We'll see. How the hell do I ask you? Cause I should have known. All things Texas. All things Texas. Cause he love them sorry ass cowboys, Ocho. We ain't even talking about it.

Time out, time out, time out, time out. You like the cowboy show? I'm bread in it, Ocho. I'm not one of them dudes that's from somewhere else. Listen, he just going for team just because he's from the place and not being realistic about their chances of actually winning the game. Oh, no, I am really. No, one thing about me about this team, you got to listen to me.

But I'm realistic about it. Trust me. No, I'm not one of them every year, Lakers fans, every year, Cowboys fan, we going to win. I'm not one of them, them every year, Lakers fans, every year, Calif. We go in. I'm not, I'm not one of them dog. Trust me. Okay. We have, we have Schadenheim as a coach.

Okay. I'm trusting when we, we could have the, the man in these, the man out in DC was an excellent for us. Yeah. Way he should not have been our head coach. How about you go, Kellan Moore, you want somebody that don't get me started with these dudes, but just because I was in high school, you know, I've been at high school a long time.

See how great I got high school a long time. This last time I went to the Super Bowl. I skipped high school and went to the, I skipped school and went to the Super Bowl parade though. For real? And yes, it had to sit out the first half of the basketball game, because they ain't been looking for us.

That's what I'm saying. So, no, I ain't rolling, man. Like, I'm, I got a big time CD fan, bro, but Michael Parson, I'm on the fence about that. I don't know about it. I call him Dakota. Until he do something, his name Dakota Rain. I don't know about it. I called him Dakota until he do something. His name Dakota Rain. I don't call it that.

You don't get names with me if you don't get it done, man. Like the dudes on the show. So we had to pick another team this year. I was going full of Bar and the Ravens, man. So I was off the damn with this. Way, way back when they first started training camp I'm gonna tell you straight up right they ain't did nothing significant when they didn't sign Derek Harry last year. I was off I'm angry. Yeah

Well, this is your owner. You have a place in Dallas He traded Dallas and I know that I know he the guy he trained with my mind like Melbourne Sanders at Sanders fit He trained with my mind, like Melvin Sanders at Sanders Fit, where he worked out at. I was Mel's first client. I know Mel well. Mel was with me in Denver trying to, so I know these dudes well, and Mel was trying to be off right, like man, he trying to be here.

I'm like, man, what's up with it? To, Yona said he couldn't afford him. Man, then you go back and bring Zeke, man. Come on, man, let's not do this. Let's not do this, man. Because trust me, dawg. Hey, they could have threw one of us back there, man, and got more production. Baby, Ojo, I got artificial hip. I can't take no more hips.

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It's got heists, tragedy, a trial of the century, and the god-damnedest love story you've ever heard. I picked up the phone and my thought was, this is the most important phone call I'll ever make in my life. I couldn't believe it. I mean, Brendan, it was divine intervention. Listen to Divine Intervention on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Steve Kerr called Nikola Jokic the best sinner he's ever seen. Kareem couldn't do all this stuff.

Jokic is the best sinner I've ever seen. I played against Kareem. Kareem couldn't do all this stuff. We're watching a guy who's doing things nobody's ever done before. It goes so far well beyond the skill with Jokic. It's the competitiveness. It's his intelligence. He's absolutely one of the smartest players ever and you see it in so many different ways. K-Mart, somebody was saying, hold on, I forget who it was but they said he

wasn't a top 20 player yet. Where do you have Nicole Yocatrain? Because he's top 20 for me. If he ain't top 20, 20 do away with the whole whoever in the top 20 I'm throwing everybody out if Nicole Yocich after about right now if he's not top 20. I don't know what the hell we talking about, right? I Want them to name? Before the answer came out. Hold on. Oh Top 20 all time? All time.

All time. All time in the history, in the 78 year history of the NBA. No, Holy Yolk is just a top 20 player as we sit here. He's still playing. I don't know how to do a top 20. So is LeBron. So is LeBron and Steph Curry. Okay, go ahead, Kmart.

Answer, answer, I'm just curious. Okay, wait. Go ahead, Kmart. Those two dudes, you can't, yo, man, you can't talk about the history of the game within the last and not mention him. Just can't. So if you talk about, so if we do it by positions, right? We can give you by position.

Yes, sir. You go, will, just not team performance. You're talking about individual dominant performance, not. You go, Will. You go, Hakeem. You go, Shaq. He's next in line, man. You taking him over, Kareem?

I forgot about Kat. My bad, he's fit. He's the fifth best center of all time right now. Just from the three MVPs, what he's doing, go after the triple double, all this. Right. Potentially win another one. He's going to win another MVP, you know, maybe two before he's

done, maybe another championship. This puts him up. Yeah, top five center of all time right now, man. So you, you, you, some of these other guys, man, you, yeah, I'm, if he's not 20, if he's not top 20, 21. He's 21. I like it. I like top 25. Like if you want you want to take five guards, five point guards, five shooting guards, five small force, five power force, five centers.

Right. Top 25 basketball NBA player of the ball time, he's top 20. He's the fifth best center ball time. So I would put him at, right now he's still playing, I'll put him at fifth. He's as good as I've ever seen. I think the thing where people knock him

is because of his deep, because all the guys that you mentioned, play deep, all the guys that you mentioned had made at least one, some multiple, all defensive teams. Now, they didn't have that, they didn't have all defensive team when Wilt Chamberlain, cause Wilt had a game where he had 24 blocks.

So we, I mean, his numbers, I mean, we gotta do something. We just gotta sit Will aside. So the 150 point, 50 point games, ain't nobody ever touching that. You never gonna do that. Nobody's gonna ever average 50 points a game in four season. What, what, what, what, what footage that of Will's 100 point game?

You seen the footage? No, ain't no footage. You just got the box score. Yeah. So, do you look at, yeah, I'm with you. So, the 100 points, the 20,000 women all in there. Nah, he said the 20,000 was to sell that book. Yeah, absolutely.

Damn sure sale. So, my thing about Nicola, right? It's not the defensive end. It's the top three in field, right? But that's one thing. But if you look at it, Anka and Ulch, look at when the gains are on the line, right? Like the other day, that Minnesota game the other day, right?

Yeah. The 60 point triple of that game. Of all the things he was asked to do offensively that game, when the game was on the line, both over times, this, that, and the third, watch him move his feet defensively when they ask him to go out and double Anthony Elk. It's little things like that that I look at, right? When the game is on the line, he can move his feet. He's great. He's not, I ain't gonna say he's Draymond Green defensively

when the game is on the line, but you're gonna get an honest effort out of him. He's gonna implement the game plan, whatever you tell him to go out and do with all the deficiencies that he has defensively, give me that effort that he displays when it's winning time, every time. Because like Steve Curry said,

his competitive nature fix in. You say you can't do something, I'm gonna try my best not to let Anthony Elwits turn this corner. Right. Listen, but this is the funny thing about it. Now, as great as he is offensively, and what he can do offensively in the post mid-range from three, he's a liability on defense. I don't care how hard he tries. No, no, no. Yeah, I'm going up against Joe Ellen Beade. He's probably a liability in defense. But the question is, who do you have on the offensive end that's gonna punish him

like he's gonna punish your guy on the defensive end? So when he has to play defense, who's the guy that's gonna go at him and put 40 on his head like he's gonna put 40 on your guy's head? And he's gonna get a double digit assist. So now that's another 20 to 30 points. Right. And he's gonna get, I mean, think about this, he's gonna average a triple double for a season. As a big, he's shooting 58% from the floor. He's shooting 42% from three. He's shooting 42% from three Somebody that shoots that many shots from the outside I'm talking about a guy just lays the ball up and dunks it right like about how many shots he takes outside of the paint And he's shooting damn near 58 percent. Oh Joe. That's crazy, boy

And 42% from the three You don't do it if you shoot 42% from the three. If you shoot 40% from the three, you'll make a lot of money. Yeah. You ain't me. You shoot 37%. Okay, 37%. You shoot 40%, they look at you as an elite shooter. You shoot 42%, you are.

Yeah, I mean, that's what I was in high school. Dudes leave the league, shoot the 41, 42 percent lap three. Yes. And you got a center out here doing it. A center. John Moran, Spencer Haywood told TMZ that John's ruining his career. He said, the people that are around him are not advising him right. He's ruining his career.

He's ruining his family's life and his team. Most importantly, he's letting all of them down. So I'm just disappointed in Ja. Kmart, you're an elder statesman. You were divorced for a reason a lot of times. Sometimes you was unreasonably in the locker room. But if you had a young guy like Ja, immensely talented, and he keeps doing this kind of stuff, what would you say to him, Kmart? Yeah, that's the honest conversation, man. Like you gotta, for one, you gotta have a rapport with him outside of basketball.

Oh yeah. Right? That's first and foremost. You gotta be able to relate to him on some level. So once you have that and you establish that, it's being honest with it, man. But at some point, words are not enough. And in this situation, unfortunately, I'm starting to see that words and certain things

don't matter. No matter who's in his locker room. I think that's why they bought Marcus Smart in, right? Initially to try to be there. Marcus Smart has had some hiccups. He's been feisty. He's been in the NBA to try to be there. But when, when your immediate surroundings and immediate family are not helping the situation, there's

nothing that me as a vet can do or say because I only have you for a certain amount of time during the day, right? I'm not going to follow you home, I'm not going to hold your hand, we don't live together, so we're not living in the same complex, we're not doing these things. So I can do everything in my power, but once you lead and once you're around your guys and your family, sometimes those people have more influence than the guys who you should be looking up to. You should be good for that influence. And unfortunately in this situation, that's what it is.

Hey, you know, okay. And I, Kay, and when it comes to players like this, players of this magnitude, players that are this good, players like this that have a certain type of individuals around them, most of the time we call them, we call them yes men. I mean, let me just say what it is. You got a bunch of dudes around you that are not gonna tell you what you wanna hear,

and nobody wanna get their water cut off, as I call it, you know? So I think somebody has to be an elder statesman that's part of the NBA that conducted themselves somewhat in a similar manner that John looks up to when he was younger, that played. Now maybe they could get through to him and get him to understand the NBA is not against you. There's certain things that you got in trouble for in the past,

so there's certain things you can't do or you can't get away with based on past behaviors. That's all. Yes, other players at NBA might be doing the little gestures or whatever, but they also haven't had issues with doing anything or brandishing weaponry outside of the game of basketball. So it's different. So you held to a different standard. You got to understand that. Who the OG in the streets?

That's what is to happen. I would say AI. No, I would say that. I'm talking about the real OG in the streets in Memphis. Exactly. Y'all go to John and say, John, cut this bulljive out. See, they're in these streets because we have to be. You pretended. What we do, this real over here.

But I'm trying to, who is he trying to impress? Because me personally, I don't think John Hood. I don't think John bought that life. That looks good. He do, he, he, ah. I mean't think John Hood. I don't think job out that life that looks good I mean he went that looked good. I made the people that all man John John not like that. I Know people that are like that. Yeah, that'll lay it down like that, but he ain't him you work your whole Kmart You say you from Oakley you worked your whole life To get out of that environment. Why would you get out of that environment

and then try to prove that you still down? No, I'm not down, that ain't me. We not, no, I'm not down. Nope, nope, I live all the, hey, the Lord blessed me beyond blessed. Yeah. He helped me get out of that situation. And then I'm still gonna pretend.

I ain't saying you can't have no firearm to protect yourself. Yeah. But it's the people that you don't think got them firearms that'll set fire to you. See, the thing is, it's one thing of adage, it's one thing that's with me using. Two totally separate conversations, right? And the city that he lives in, they bout that thing, man.

They bout it. Yeah, a lot. Yeah, they are, they are. We all know this, man. So, and I put this, so I've, I said this on Gills and Reno, man, and I to say a person who I'm about to mention right now since I've said this. I put a lot of this on T. Moran. I put a lot of this behavior on him. Okay, you want to let your child grow up. Cool. He's a professional athlete now. Cool. You want to give him a little leeway, a little rope to be him, to find himself, to do all these things. Yes, absolutely. But when

it's become detrimental to his career and his brand or who he is, we got to reevaluate some things son. We got to go back to the drawing board son. We can't do these things son. I can't be at the game behaving this way son. I got to move different son so we could do. So all of these things they have to do collectively to change people images on Jah, the family, the Grizzlies all of them. It has to be a collective effort because if not like we all know the only thing we respect as athletes is playing time and money. Yeah. Yeah. And these little snap on the wrist and this, that and the third, like, I tell people all the time, man, and God rest David Stern. So if this was David Stern's NBA. Yeah.

No, no. He make an example out of you. You're not going to make a mockery of this. This this logo. You're not going to continue to make a mockery of this. Even even greater, even as great as he is? Man, that man, that- He don't care nothing about that. Don't care. You're not bigger than that logo, man. As y'all say, the shield, right?

No one is bigger than y'all shield, right? David Stern carried that NBA logo the same as the NFL shield. You're not bigger than that. He would have made an example out of John. Either you, listen, this man told me the words out of his David Stern's mouth to my ears, son, if you want to continue to be a part of this NBA, you will change your ways.

And this for me fighting on the floor. This had nothing about firearms, me getting in trouble. This just for me fighting on the floor and giving me this warning. So what you think the message would have been for this situation with this kid? I don't care about your talent level. KU was in the league, and you remember everybody used to wear the baggy pants and had the tall tees, and David started saying, y'all gonna clean this issue up. He said, we got too much money at stake.

Sponsors, advertisers. This is over Dress code this man put in a dress code Yeah, cuz dudes was coming to the game and throwback jerseys then wearing throwback good Right, okay, but I got about 70 Right. That's very long man. We got no so it's it's a lessons need to be learned in this current situation we do recently. The whole day they find you 75 when you come back and you post pink cube. Like, yeah. Kmart, it ain't, it ain't enough, man. Like you gotta, somebody gotta step in. I hope, I hope he, I hope it, John figures it out because he doesn't realize how much money he's like actually costing himself with this.

I mean, you know, yeah, he has the Nike deal, but Nike is not only brand that pays money. They have so many other brands and he's missing out on so many more, so many opportunities. You know, he, a lot of times, a lot of people thought he could be the face of the NBA. Charismatic, the way he can play the game.

He's a small guy and the NBA loves small guys. They love guards. And he has it. And I just don't know why he wants to perpetuate this type of behavior. But to each his own. K-Mart, thanks for joining us. Hey guys, everybody do us a favor.

Go follow Kmart on IG. Kmart, what's your IG handle? Everything Kenyon Martin Sr., man. You know what I'm saying? It's Kenyon Martin Sr., everything. IG, Twitter, Facebook. Kenyon Martin Sr., baby. You can watch it.

Hold on, before you go, right? Hey Kmart, I'm gonna throw something else in on that bet. Throw something else in it. Hey, listen, LeBron James, you know, when he hit 50,000 points, he gave me the ball. The actual ball that went in when he hit the points, if Houston beats Florida, I'll send you the ball. I promise you.

Put that in there. So you already know how much this shit worth. What you laughing at? You know what? I want that gold jacket that you wrote H-O-L-F on that you put on the sideline. That's the jacket. I want that. Hey, I'm still here. You got no more. I'm looking for it. That's 101. I can't find it.

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