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Despite being eight and two and fresh off a Super Bowl win,
there continues to be a lot of negativity surrounding the Eagles.
A.J. Brown threw more gas on the fire today when asked about speculation
that he isn't the same player he once was.
Ocho, let's take a listen to what AJ had to say.
There's been speculation out there that you are not the same player he wants to.
What would you say to those people?
I guess they're calling it to say.
Hey, pretty easy, man.
All right.
But I'm going to.
Okay.
Hey, you see how the bull jabs start?
Uh-huh.
You see how the bull?
They come up with that.
Oh, your production is not the same as it was before.
So now you're not the same player no more.
Oh, now you lost a step.
This is the game they play.
This is the game they play.
This is how they do.
This is how they do you.
You know ain't nothing wrong.
with that man man you can see you watch film you watch the games on so ain't nothing wrong with
that man why even see them reporters be playing that's how you know what i would have swung on that
reporter but you see also also you see i framed it what do you say to those that say that you're not
the same player anymore you see i framed it yeah yeah what do you say about those that say you're not
the same hoping that he gets something they got what he wanted yeah i guess say quorum
same play either. They got what they wanted. Yeah. Because the context, it don't even matter the
context. Yeah. Y'all said, I'm not the same player. Well, Seekwon ain't got a thousand yards rush.
Remember at this point in time last year, he had a thousand yards. Exactly. So why y'all
didn't ask you? Why are y'all not asking questions about him? Mm-hmm. So y'all keep coming,
y'all keep coming to me asking me questions. But does the run game look the same?
Nope. Show don't. So that means Seacuan lost it? No, ain't nothing wrong with him.
him. There ain't nothing wrong with him. It ain't nothing wrong with AJ Brown either.
The reporters know that. But they, you know,
the reporter will go fishing every time. Now,
it's on the player on whether they catch that bait or not.
You're right, don't you? That's it. You know, A.J. Brown, he wanted him. He's going to
give you what you want every time. Oh, AJ is going to speak his mind now.
Oh, he's going to give you each more every time.
Hey, there was one other player just like that too that played out, you know, over there that war 81.
Yeah.
You ask him a question. He's going to give you what you want every time.
So be careful.
He ain't sugarcoat nothing.
But I just think the thing is now is that we eight and two.
Yeah.
So what can we be critical of?
Ain't really anything you can be critical of because the team is eight and two.
They're the number one team in the division.
So let's go to AJ Brown and hopefully he says something negative about somebody else.
Yeah.
That's all you got to hope.
That's all they're hoping for now, which is.
Yeah, that's it.
You say, like you said, it's a fishing expedition.
Oh, yeah, that's it.
Let me see how big a fish I can catch.
And matter of fact, this is the thing, too, right?
The bait is the way you were the question.
Yes.
The bait that the reporters use is the way they word the question.
I'm going to word it in this way and say, they say, you know,
we don't even know who they is they is they watching film?
Is they not seeing what's going on?
Yeah, we eight and two.
I've been complaining about they the whole time.
They should know what the problem is.
And how about this here?
If whoever say that I'm not the same player will ask the opposing team
why they keep putting their number one corner on me then.
If I ain't what they say, if I ain't what you think
or what they say I am, all I know is I get road coverage
and I get their best, they get their best corner.
They don't put their third corner on me.
They don't put their second or third corner on me.
Why not?
They say I ain't got it no more.
You're right.
I don't.
Throw me the ball and find out.
Yeah.
That's the only way, that's, that's all I can tell you.
That's all I got for you.
I ain't got nothing to say.
I really don't.
Look, y'all know how I feel about this situation.
Yes, I like to be a more active participant in the offense.
Yeah.
I think if we, if all the receivers, I think, look,
and I don't want to speak for anybody else,
but I think we all think that we could be more involved
and the offense would flow smoother if myself,
Devonte, Garder, Dotson,
if we became more involved.
Yeah.
That's not where we are right now.
Hopefully that changes.
Any more questions?
Good day.
That's it.
That's all I got for, Yocho.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's that good politically correct answer.
Hey, hey, hey, I thought about being politics.
Hey, I still might.
Might be perfect for politics right now.
Politician?
Okay.
Okay.
I like it.
I say, hey, I'm listening.
With that being said,
to Ocho. No, I was just like, hey, no, we're not, what you want me to say, man, you're watching
the games. Yeah. We're not, we're not, we're not playing well and we're not good
offensively. No, who can you pick out and say, okay, they're doing an outstanding job
offensively. Bro, we ain't scored a touchdown in a month. A month. A professional NFL team
has not scored a touchdown. So there's enough blame to go around on everybody offensively.
from coaches to players, myself, the quarterback, the offensive line, the running backs.
There's no way to just pinpoint the blame because one time we get a holding call.
Next time we jump outside.
The next time we make a mistake, we do a minimal mistake.
So there's enough blame if we just, and it's just not, okay, we get something going positive, hold it.
We get something going, then we have somebody with a middle mistake.
So there's enough blame to go around.
But at the end of the day, it's a pun.
on this office that's in that room
and the coaches to figure it out.
So let me ask you a question.
You think Cincinnati feeling sorry for us?
No.
You think Tennessee feeling sorry for us.
You tell me the team that's on our schedule
that feels sorry for us
that we haven't scored a touchdown
in five weeks.
Oh, nobody.
So they're not feeling sorry for it.
Why the hell we're feeling sorry for ourselves?
Empathy is something someone else have for you.
You can't have it for your damn self.
Right.
Oh, pull me.
Oh, well, stay over there.
Stay over there.
But AJ, hey, bro, don't let them try to get you to try to throw
dirt on somebody else.
Don't even do it.
Hey, y'all heard what I said.
Adam said, I don't really need to reiterate it.
I just been saying this for the last year.
I would like to become more involved in the offense.
Not out of selfish reasons.
do you see our passing game is struggling.
And right now we're very dependent on the defense.
But at what point in time do we get to have to, do we get to earn our checks?
Because the defense is earning their checks every week.
Every week.
Right now we're getting free checks.
Yep.
So, AJ later said he does not watch your other wide receivers do a ride in NFL.
A reporter to ask him, say, why?
His response, it gets me upset.
Absolutely.
Now this, now he's talking my language.
Yeah, yeah.
That's a good one.
That's a good one.
Bad?
Hey, listen, unless you being productive,
unless you are part of the offense,
week and week out,
and knowing that you're going to have those catches
and those opportunities,
I'm not watching the others that are getting them.
Because that's going to get me mad.
You think I'm going to be watching film on Jamar and JSC and George Pickens
and Devon.
and they out there going crazy weekend and week out?
They're getting 10, 12 targets a game.
I'm getting 4'5.
Man, please, man.
Absolutely not.
I don't want to see that.
Hell no.
I was very fortunate.
Like I said, it wasn't like it is now Ocho where we had this influx of tight ends.
But yeah, Ben Coats had 160.
I had 80.
Yeah.
Nah, man, that may ain't even know 120 yards better than me.
Uh-uh.
no hell not i see brett jones or them go oh no hell no so i i i i i 1 000 percent i am i'm not
watching and don't let me and don't let me you know i'm playing one of those guys yeah man
hey romo at man don't y'all let that man come in here and show y'all in front of me
don't y'all let that man come in this house and show out in front of me now i'm just saying don't let
that man come in this house and show out in front of me do what y'all hey do what y'all do to me
in practice right i like that it's a good one yeah man come on now how that's going to look ocho
gonzow come up in my house go for a buck 50 now i'm on the sideline
Hell no.
Hey, like Tom, see, I don't want to play with Tom.
Because remember that game that Randy went off?
Yeah.
Randy had like two or three touchdowns.
Excuse me, T.O.
Had up went off with that two or three touchdown.
He said, come on, Moss.
He gave Moss four in the first half.
You good?
I'm good.
I'm good.
I'm good.
I'm good.
real good.
Kevin Petula and
Seriani are quite obsessed with the
Hitch Rout, ranking the most
hitchh routes run per game via True Media.
Dallas Goddard, 9.44,
Devonte Smith, 9.1,
A.J. Brown, 7.5.6.
No other team has more
players than the top 16.
What I told you,
what I told you the other day?
About the route concepts.
I can tell you what?
I can tell you what AJ Brown.
I can tell you what Devonthe Smith is running based on their alignment
and based on formation and definitely based on down and distance every single time.
Every time I don't play for the Eagles.
I love football.
I'm not an Eagle fan, but I watch the game.
The fact that I can still tell you what they're doing and I don't watch them every single week.
I mean, if I know what's coming, you don't think the people that actually watch film
and get paid millions of dollars to do?
Yeah, man, come on, nah.
I mean, I just don't know
how you expect to be effective
when you have this many guys
in the top running hitches.
Really?
Push the ball down the field.
You got to.
Because if you don't, they're going to sit on top of everything.
Yeah, they're playing top down.
Which is why most of the short
the intermediate routes,
keep getting knocked down.
Why?
Because there ain't no threat for you going over the top of it.
Hell not.
Why am I backing up?
Knowing you ain't going no farther than 10 yards,
I ain't even getting out of my back pedal.
That's why Smitty catch so many deep balls over the top.
Because he doesn't hitched him.
Hey, he doesn't slanted him, hissing to death?
Hissed and sland him to death.
And they'd be looking like, oh, heck of him, no, he's over the top of you now.
Hey, is either the hits, the slant, or the curl.
That's it.
Oh, or maybe the cross or the overs.
The over-out?
The over-roar.
That's it.
A lot of times when they throw him the goal ball,
he's on the left-hand side.
Yep.
That's it.
That's the extended route route treat for them, right there.
Yeah.
It's like, and I know it's frustrating.
It's frustrated because you see all these guys.
You see Jackson's, you see JSCN, you see a mecca,
you see a puka you see chase you see all these guys
cutting all the honey
I ain't getting enough of vinegar
they ain't giving me nothing of vinegar with you
yeah I'm salty hold on
and not only am I only
not only am I only getting vinegar
they pay me $33 million
yeah and the first thing he gonna do is
well man I don't know
your production slip
yeah yeah you're not the same
it seemed like you don't lost it
step we pin you 33 but the production you're giving us is like we're paying you 12 or 10
so we're going to ask you to take a picker a what I already know listen I already know the game
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Oh, Joe, Drake may cause his wide receiver, Stefan Diggs.
Dramatic.
Congratulations, Stefan.
He and Cardi, welcome to baby girl.
Congratulations.
Hopefully, mom and baby are doing well.
Revealed that he's playing through a broken finger.
Steph probably dramatic.
Every time he gets hit, he lies on the ground and acts like he just got hit by 18-wheeler or something.
Ocho, yeah.
You like what Drake said?
Yeah, yeah, I like.
They have a really, really good, healthy relationship.
It's good to see, obviously, when you're playing well like this,
you can make these kind of jokes.
You can have some fun.
You can make funny a receiver.
Your receiver can make funny your quarterback,
and things are going so well for them over there.
And Drake May is playing out his mind.
Yeah.
Drake May is playing out his mind.
So the reason they're having the success that they are having
is simply because of the quarterback play
and his decision-making with the football.
Obviously, his supporting cast has been playing extremely well as well,
including Stefan Diggs, who has had a resurgence.
Yep.
So not only, you know, on the field, but off the field of well
and the way he's carrying himself based on the way people,
the perception or the perceived notion on who he is.
So that's really a good thing.
You remember we first got there and he was on that yacht?
And Brable, because I had a conversation with it.
Oh, yeah.
Ain't been no more problems.
Hey, he's been on a straight and hour ever since then, ma.
Huh?
and he's been straight,
he's been straighted
a goddamn Cupid's arrow.
Man,
on show.
What happened?
Man, hey,
the offensive lineman,
they had me a nickname.
So if I got,
like I got injured,
they come,
hey, Lazarus,
you okay?
Lazarus?
They call me Lazarus.
They're called me Lazarus,
because they're talking about
every time I pretend like I'm dead
and then I rise.
I said, man, get out of here.
That's funny.
No, ain't all right.
The Patriots lead the AFC East.
It grew even bigger.
Oh, Cho.
Yeah.
Remember, New England went to Buffalo and beat the bills.
Yeah.
Now, 9 and 2, Buffalo's 7 and 4, Miami's 4 and 7.
The jets are 2 and 8.
Do you think there's any chance
Buffalo can catch the Patriots
and win the AMC East again this year?
Ooh, that's a good question.
I would have to see the remaining schedule
for the Buffalo Bills.
Josh Allen is going to have to be Superman.
And when he does be Superman,
he's got to have to make sure
he doesn't put the ball in harm's way, you know.
They become very beatable when that happens.
Exactly.
I lie when they played the Dolphins.
Jumped out to him early
because of mistakes.
And he turned the ball over last week.
He was able to overcome him.
Come it, yes.
But you see what happened tonight.
Mm-hmm.
And even when they turned,
now you mess around and get an offense.
Now, a top flight offense,
you turned the ball over like that.
That's why I was surprised
that they were able to get out of harm's way
from Tampa last week.
Yeah.
But you messed right and,
I mean, to turn the ball over three times
and still had a chance,
I mean, you were driving down to take the lead.
Yeah.
And then another turnover.
But I just don't, I think New England is too well coached.
I think they're too disciplined.
I think they're too good for Buffalo to overtake them.
I don't, I don't see there's six games left.
Yeah.
I just don't, I just don't see them losing.
No.
Enough game for the bills to overtake them.
Because they got to be, guess what, the bills got to play them again this time in Foxborough.
I don't think that's, I don't think that's.
going to happen. The goddamn bottom would have
to fall out. The bottom would have to fall out.
Drake May would have to get injured.
They're going to be fine.
They're going to be fine.
As you got the, you got the bills
remaining schedule.
Can you post that real quick?
It's, uh,
yeah, I can say, I'll say
with Drake May, the way they can, uh,
Henderson, the way they can run the football.
Yeah.
Even, you know, Mandre Stevenson,
Stevenson, yeah, Stevenson, he's out,
but you got digs, you got, you know, Bouté,
you got guys that can make plays, Hunter, Henry.
Mac Hall, Mac Hollins.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Oh, Cho, the bill's remaining schedule.
They're at the Steelers.
Woo-hoo.
Bingles, come to them.
At the Patriots, at the Browns,
get the Eagles at home, get the Jets at home.
Hey, every last one of them games,
going to be hell.
Yep, except the Bengals.
Don't do that.
Every last one of them game is going to be hell except the-
Oh, show, y'all got four guys in the top ten of missed tackles.
Did you know that?
Yes, I know that.
But Joe Burrow, hey, you know, you know, hey, can I tell you something?
Yeah.
Joe Burrow took all the first team snap today.
So you know what that tells me?
What did I tell you?
It tells me he playing Sunday against the Patriots.
You know what else that tell me?
What that?
Even without Chase, we're going to beat the Patriot's ass.
Oh, my goodness, man.
You hear me?
Chat, y'all tired of hearing that foolishness?
Hey, baby, I know, I know she, you know, my baby, you know, she's a Patriot fan.
So I'm just letting you know right here in front of the world, you know, you're off in a loose.
Oh, boy.
Man, Miles Garrett might sack him five times by himself.
He might break the record on you.
Wait, they play the Browns next?
No, they got the Steelers next.
They got the Steelers next.
Then they got the Steelers on the 30th, which is a week from Sunday.
Okay, okay.
And then they got the Bengals, then they got the Patriots, then they got the Browns, then they got the Eagles, then they have the Jets.
Hey, that's crazy, that's crazy, that's crazy. That's crazy. It's crazy because, listen, defense, defense, all right, Bengals, our defense is, eh, if he.
No, no, no, no, no, no, you don't, you don't, don't even say nothing about no defense.
I don't want to hear you say D or fence
I said our defense is iffy
Say enclosed
I don't even want to hear you say fence
Say enclosed area
You ain't got to
You ain't got to be
Any given Sunday
Ain't no telling what might happen
Except the Sunday
that Cincinnati play
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Remember you said this
Idea.
Ocho, James Winston opened up about letting his family spend $400,000 a month.
James signed a four-year, $25 million contract with the books.
He said a $400,000 a month burn rate would have depleted his $25.25 million contract in five years.
An estimated 78% of NFL players go bankrupt or under financial stress within two years of retirement, according to CNBC.
Ocho, have you ever heard such a thing
of letting family, friends, and loved ones
burn through basically $5 million a year?
No. Never heard of that.
And my family wouldn't even disrespect me
or try or even indulge in a situation like that.
When I make it, when I make it,
I take care of immediate family
for the sacrifices, for the things that they've done
to help me get to where I am,
keeping me on the right track.
But all that feeling entitled after the fact, it ain't happening.
No.
It is not happening.
No.
It's not happening because I understand this has to last me long term.
I understand that early.
I mean, I don't think people realize how much $400,000 a month is.
I don't think they realize.
I mean, he had to be buying houses and cars because $400,000?
Yeah.
You got to be careful.
the people
in this era
everybody rich y'all
you can't tell them nothing
everybody rich all the hypotheticals on Twitter
all the hypotheticals on Instagram
oh $100,000 ain't no money
man what the hell
100,000 is the new 10
a million is the new 100,000
what is y'all talking
what's y'all like you doing it?
Yeah, y'all talk with some bulljazz
hey they be they be killed
when they start when they start talking about
hey this ain't no money
I'm like, all right.
Yeah, okay.
Yeah, okay.
Man, I'm glad James,
you were able to be 400,000 a month, boy?
Yeah.
Nah, uh-huh.
I was like, hey,
hey, I'm, I'm, I'm happy, I'm happy for,
I'm happy you were able to get that under control, James.
I really am.
And for family to even,
to ask to put you under that kind of duress
or try to make you feel guilty, like,
Hey, boy, I used to change diapers on you.
Well, you ain't changed $400,000 in a moment.
Yeah.
Hey, I don't even think, you know, if my mom and my grandma was here,
a matter of fact, when they were here,
they wouldn't even be comfortable.
They wouldn't be comfortable for asking for that kind of amount.
When I got drafted, I'm ready to move my mama out, my grandma out the city.
Baby, we'd have made it.
You didn't got to live in no mode.
Where you want to go?
Boy, I'm not leaving.
in this house.
You know how long this house been here?
This was passed down to me.
I'm not going nowhere.
I mean what you mean?
Yeah.
Man, I get it.
They, hey,
on your bad.
That's what my grandma was.
My brother, hey, got that money,
88.
My grandma trying to take them old,
our cast iron beds,
all them dirty pots.
Right.
My grandma, all canned jar.
My grandma got jarred,
like tomatoes.
and squash and okra
she tried to take that
stuff that's been jarred 10, 15, 20 years
that's crazy
and my old people like
that that's a new that's a new age stuff
because my grandma would have never asked
for anything like that
my mom, look look I brought my mom
a couple of cars
my mom made 400,000 a month
yeah
hey that's crazy that's crazy work
that's crazy that's crazy work
that's damn near $15,000 a day
$15,000 a day
Man please
Hey
I'll cut
I'll cut everybody off
No I'm changing my
Well first of all
You ain't none of them have my number
Hey
That's crazy
No I don't I don't know anybody
Nothing
The only person that I felt I owe
Was Mary Porter
Yeah my mama
My brothers
My brothers
The core, mom, grandma, sister, brother.
Yeah.
That's it.
That's really all my financial obligations.
Now, anything I do out of the kindness of my heart.
My heart, that's on me.
Be thankful.
But it ain't going to be no 50,000.
There ain't going to be no 100,000.
Mm-mm.
I ain't got it.
Hey, hey, you need help get in the car?
Gotcha.
A car.
not S plural
and hold on
and not the car you won't
my family
they're simple
they I mean
I'll probably pick a truck
or something like that
I mean my family
I will tip my hat to them
they ain't they like that oh Joe
yeah yeah
I mean look
some of them lived in mobile homes
and they weren't trying to get
no four bedroom
nothing like that
right I got you
so but I just can't believe
that somebody that a family member would ask
for $400,000. Yeah.
I mean, listen. I mean, at the end
of the day, I mean, well, I guess he
had to give somebody power of paternity because I don't think
he's just writing checks like that. Absolutely
not. Hell not.
Hopefully that only went on for one month.
Hopefully that went off for one month,
Ocho, and he was able, and he
was able to like, okay, guy, come on now.
Yeah. Everybody got everything they need,
right? We good. We good?
We good.
Okay. That's it.
Because that's at the beginning of his career, Ocho.
You don't know there's a guarantee that you're going to ever,
you don't be in a position to make that kind of money again.
Again, yeah, you can't.
So you don't, you don't know that, you're like, hey,
what if this, what if that's the only money that he would have ever made?
Now, he's been very fortunate that, you know,
he's gotten, you know, he got some money from New Orleans.
I think he got, you know, decent pay.
They're not, not like what quarter.
He ain't got no, uh, uh, Daniel Jones, no, no, no, no payday like he got from the Giants or the payday
like he got for one year like he got from, uh, the Colts. He ain't got that.
But you know what, you know what he will have?
What he have? He will have some, most of the other quarterbacks don't have. He would have
a career after football. Oh, yeah, for sure, for sure.
Here you go, he will, he will have a career after football on TV.
superior personality.
Yeah, yeah.
Superior.
But like I said, hopefully
he can take advantage of this situation
and obviously he's not going to be the start
of their long term because they have Jackson Dart.
And it seems like he's fine being a backup.
He likes being a mentor. He likes being
the board to reason and a leader
in the locker room. And so hopefully he can
play well and say, you know what? We like having him around.
We like the leadership role that he is. And he can stay on.
Because I like James. I like James. I like James.
He had some hiccups early in his career, but he's turned his life around, and he's been a model citizen.
And I can commend that.
I can commend that for him.
Oh, yeah.
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Kyle Shanahan believes McMillan will be one of our best receivers in the NFL.
Shanahan said, I think he's a stud.
He's going to be one of our best receiving in this league sooner than later.
He's got all the skills set to do it.
I think he's just getting started through 11 games.
McMillan has racked up 748 receiving yards on 54.
catches. He ranked sixth in the NFL
and receiving yards and lead all rookies
in the categories. Carolina selected
McMillan with the number eight pick.
Ocho, you agree? Yeah, absolutely.
Why do you think I said
what I said at the beginning of the season?
You know, before the season started,
I knew with the addition of
McMillan in that offense, with Bryce Young
playing the way it was playing,
when the season ended last year,
that momentum was on carry in, the
chemistry between Bryce and McMillan is
on point. Now we just got to get everybody,
else on board you know
Rico Dowdle running the ball the way he is
you know when Hubbard goes in there
he compliments them as well
they're going to be all right
they playing good defense one of my favorite
defenders in the NFL and J.C. Horn
a fool
playing his ass off you know
so they're playing really good football
on both sides of the goddamn
they're playing complimentary football
yes man yes man it's beautiful
I mean Bryce for 48 last week Ocho
and what three four touchdowns
Yes.
He was sensational.
McMillan was sensational.
Stational, yeah.
Now you've got to get the rest of that receiving core.
Get the rest of that receiving core, making those plays, being consistent.
Because they got Jimmy Horn, they got Hunter Renfro.
Oliver Winfro.
Rico Donald is running the ball really well.
Yeah, they got to make a little good team.
I mean, I think they can challenge Tampa for the division.
Damn, that's dope.
they damn so good
yeah
because Tampa doesn't have an easy
I mean I think Tampa has them again
I think Tampa has Atlanta
obviously New Orleans
we'll see
Shook what he's done
I think he won his last start we'll see if he can put
together play back to back games
together and make it happen
but I just don't know
I just I think I've lost
I lost all the hope of my home
my hometown team,
I just, I just,
who that?
Who that?
But just the.
Falcons.
My home state,
tell you where home town.
Hey,
I got a crib there.
Uh,
oh,
the Panthers at 49ers,
Rams at home,
at Saints,
Tampa,
Seattle at home.
And then the bucks on the road.
So they got the bucks twice
in the final three weeks.
Once at home,
once on the roll,
sprinkled in between,
Seattle. So they got the
AFC West, I mean the NFC West
49ers, Rams,
Seahawks. Hey,
they're going to be some good games.
Oh, yeah. They're going to be some good games.
They do get, they're at 49ers, but they do get Rams
and Seahawks at home.
Woo!
That Ram, Seahawks game.
Hey, Bryce, just be ready
to put up another 400 y'all performance
because them teams can score.
And they got defenses.
Mm-hmm.
The Rams can come get you.
Seattle can get you. Seattle come get you.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
Keep pounding.
Armand Ross St. Brown doesn't think there's any disconnect
between him and Jerry golf after the Eagles lost.
St. Brown ended up incomplete targets the most of his career.
He caught two of the 12 targets by golf.
I'm not worried about Jared one bit, he said.
Ocho.
Yeah.
The lines have lost three of the last five games.
Any reason for concern, any reason to be alarmed?
I mean, I don't think there's any reason to be alarmed.
It is the game of football unc.
You want to be as consistent as possible all the time offensively.
You always want to hit your stride.
You always want that connection to be there, receiver,
quarterback, quarterback the receiver.
But that's not the way the game works.
You're going to have your ups.
You're going to have your downs.
I think when it matters most, those two with the connections
that they've had since they've been together
it's going to always be there
they just had a bad game they had a bad game
now collectively they lost the what
three of the last five
that's collectively as a team
now just those two just had a bad connection
this past previous name
and you have to think all the pressure
all the pressure that was on golf
all the pressure balls getting batted down
you know pressure being on him
making him uncomfortable where he can't step in the throws
and make the throws that he's used to making
you have games like that outside of that probably this weekend they can be right back
to doing what they do better yeah yeah it's tough you know playing in those conditions the
winds whipping 30 40 miles an hour I don't miss those days uh playing and it's nice to have a
running game because you know hey TD can run us to a victory um but it's it's tough I don't
think I don't think if I'm army raw I'm not worried because I
I know we have a connection because I know, guess what?
We're going to go right back into the dome where the conditions are controlled.
And watch, I'll have 18 quick catches for 100 to 130 yards.
Watch.
And then you're like, I don't even know why I asked that question because I see the report
that they've had since Armouraz gotten here.
Right.
Why would I believe after one game that, I mean, that's one game.
I can see there was a pattern where,
okay, there's three, four, five, six games.
It's one game.
And you think then now all of a sudden,
because of the conditions that were out there
that we're not connected somehow?
Yeah.
You know, they're going to pull something out of there
just to make a report.
Yeah.
Yeah, I'm not worried about this either, Ocho.
I think, look, I understand they've lost three.
They haven't played well.
They've turned the football over.
You know, you can't play.
It's hard to overcome that because the teams are getting better.
Teams are getting better, and, you know, you turn the ball over three or four times
and put teams on short fields, there's a great chance you're going to get your ass kicked.
Yeah.
Really good chance.
You're going to get your ass kicked.
And that's what happened.
And that's what happened.
That's what's happening with the Lions this year is that they're putting the ball in harm's way.
And years past, they were able to overcome it.
They're not able to do that now, Ojo.
Mm-hmm.
Lamar Jackson was taken aback today when the media told him,
He's already been sacked the same number of times
and seven starts this season that he was all last year.
Man, I got to talk to my offensive line about that.
I'm going to hollet my guys about that.
This season, Lamar has been sacked 23 times,
which is the eighth most in the league,
despite him having sought out three games.
That's crazy.
Halfstring injury.
Last year, Lamar was sacked 23 times and 17 starts,
which ranked 26th among all quarterbacks.
But Joe?
Yeah.
Reason to be concerned?
Nah, not really.
No reason to be concerned.
But what I do like about Lamar most of the time now
is now he's, now he is the past first and run,
run quarterback later.
And I think him trying to extend plays,
which is why there are more sacks as opposed to how it was last year.
And then there's been some bad off the line play on.
Yeah, man, the right side.
I'm not going to say no names.
I'm not going to say no names, but he went number 77.
Young pool, you got to have a little bit more pride, baby.
You got to have a little bit more pride in your game, you know,
and wanting to look good not only for yourself
but for your team on, you know, on film.
Outside of that, yeah, I don't really see no issue.
I don't really see no issue.
And they started out bad too.
They started out bad too.
Most of the time, they play well.
They come out the gate on fire.
They come out the gate on fire,
and they just haven't been able to get it together
the way they did in the previous seasons.
and they're trying to build their stuff out that hole.
They're trying to dig themselves at that hole.
Yeah.
They probably are going to do it.
Will Lamar now being healthy?
Yeah.
So they're going to be all right.
Well,
they might want more games that they went to Huntley
instead of fucking Cooper Rush.
I don't know what made them think Cooper Rush
was going to be able to hold.
Because Huntley has played well for them
in the absence of Lamar Jackson.
Yes.
So you have something that you can look at and says,
okay, Huntley's played well.
He started a playoffs game for us.
He's one game for us.
in the past. But you go with Cooper Rush?
I wonder who's called that was.
Probably Harbaugh. Well, it was the wrong call. I don't know who called it was.
It was the wrong call.
The first shake-up in the Lakers majority owner, Mark Raulter,
fired Joey and Jesse Buzz.
Joy Bus was the alternate governor and vice president
of research and development with the Lakers while Jesse was the team's
assistant general manager. And a statement,
the Bust Brothers wrote
we are extremely honored to have been a part of this organization
for the last 20 seasons.
Thank you, Laker Nation, for embracing our family
every step of the way.
We wish things could have been done different
with the way our time ended with the team.
At times it's like this,
we wish we could ask our dad,
what do you think of all this?
And listen, they're going in a new direction.
They got a new player who is now the face of the franchise
and I see they're moving on with
they out with the old
and end with the new.
So now two positions have opened up.
Two positions have opened up.
I'm curious of who they're going to have
fill those positions.
Not those two.
You know, I was read
where they say
since they got the snap
benefits back, they're going to make
everybody reapply to make sure
there are nobody sneak through
crack and somebody get on the benefit that doesn't
belong to be there. Okay, okay. I don't
think they're going to allow them to real apply for the
jobs and see if they can get it outside, you know,
no. Right. I think I read
where they were kind of upset that
Jeannie left them
unprotected. Right. You know,
well, they were the only two, if I'm not
mistaken, they were the only two
that were against the sale
of the Lakers. Okay,
so there's where the issue lies.
So they knew
probably they would be vulnerable. They
They might have been the only two that other than Jeannie that was working within the organization.
And normally when somebody comes on, the likelihood, they're going to probably want to bring
their people on, don't you? That's just the way it is.
Yeah.
And you have to understand that.
They like to work with people that they're comfortable with.
It's just like a new general manager.
Unless the coach is coaching at an extremely high level and the team is doing well, you know,
he's probably going to want to get his own coach in there.
And they're going to want to get their own players in there.
That's just the way it is.
know, Jeannie, you know, they sold the team for $10 billion.
I think Dr. Bus left them, left them in great shape.
Yeah.
They're going to get a lot.
I don't know how many.
I think it's, I think it's six of them.
I think.
I think it's six kids.
How many is, Ash, is it six?
I think it's six of them.
Maybe, and they got some young ones, you know.
But it'll be, it's going to be interesting to see.
I don't think, it's the Lakers.
I mean, the guy that purchased the Lakers, Ocho, he owns the,
he owns the Dodgers also.
Who is that?
Mark Walters.
Oh, man, Mr. Walters, man.
Hey, that's my daughter.
You know, I used to date Mr. Walters' daughter.
Oh, Lord of mercy.
No, yeah, you ain't know that?
I didn't know that, Ocho.
Yeah, I'm glad you, I wish I didn't know that,
but I'm glad you shared that with us.
Yeah, I did you share that with the chat.
Well, you know, I don't, hey.
Yeah, y'all, glad y'all knew that now.
Yeah, I don't, well, you know, back of my day, back, back of my day, uh, what?
Back of the day, what?
Huh?
What you mean?
Boy, I would hell when I were well, now.
Huh?
On sweet Jesus.
Yeah.
Yes.
Yeah, yeah.
I know.
I can imagine you hell when you were well, little, Joe.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm telling you.
Um, he had six, but a seven.
was announced a few years ago.
So, you know, you split.
I don't know if they owned all of it outrated
for all 100% or he had 80%.
But whatever the case may be,
they're probably, oh, Joe, they're probably going to get
$500, $600,000, $600 million each.
I think they'd be okay.
Yeah, they'd be all right.
Matter of fact, they could take that $5,000 a million
and start a new, start a little business, you know?
Oh, they start, I thought you told about
get a new team.
They ain't get no new team.
Not no, not, not, no new team,
but find something you passionate about, you know,
But that's all they know was basketball.
You got to think about it.
Your whole life, your dad owned the Lakers.
Right.
Guess what?
I go to college.
I work for my dad.
Right.
With the hopes of actually being able to run the team potentially one day.
Right.
That's all I do.
I devote all my time to that.
That goes away.
Do what?
Yeah.
Yeah, that's crazy.
Because a lot of what their identity is,
when you hear that land,
name are you are you related to genie dr bus your dad yeah yeah yeah that's my sister that's my
sister that's my yes yes yes oh i'm i'm i'm sorry to hear that you are guys are sold a team yes or am i
ain't too sorry i ain't too sorry if you go look at it coach on the mom and pop shops you see all
the big corporations scooping them up yeah coming right in but they they always give me a hefty a
hefty check, too, for coming to school.
Yeah. I mean, I think
Dr. Bus probably paid, what, $30 million
for the franchise?
$25, $30 million?
Yeah. That was now,
back in the late 70s, that's a lot of money.
Oh, that's great. I don't want people to think,
I don't want people to think about, oh, 30 million
in the 70s was a, a ton of money.
That's, but that's, that's, that's, it's real.
But you can imagine what it was back then.
Back then? Back then?
Ooh, that's loaded, boy.
Yeah.
Yeah, so it's, uh, it's tough, Ocho,
when it's a, we've a family-owned business.
Yeah.
And you've held that business, like I said,
they would have owned from 79 because he purchased the team from Jack Kent Cook
who used to own the Lakers.
Right.
So with that being saying, so 79, so we're looking at
46, 47 years, that has been in the family.
Yeah.
that's our identity the bus the lakers it's just like it'll be just like if the browns were to sell
the bingles that's all that's all that's all that's all mike brown knows yeah that's all what's
what's his daughter name katy katy that's all she knows so if they were to sell that what's the
identity that ain't that ain't that's why the likelihood they're probably never
sell that. It's like the Cowboys. I mean, yeah, Jerry's worth
on, but Jerry identity, those kids' identity, they've had that team since
1989 when they draft Detroit number one overall. Yeah. So you look at that
so Stephen and Jerry Jr. and Charlotte, that's all they know.
That's the identity. The grandkids, kids, kids, that's what they know.
That's what they're tied to now. So it'd be hard for them to do
to do something else. Right. And
I think Jerry got that in his wheel
Ironclad. They can never, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever sell the Cowboys.
No, yeah.
I mean, the Bears and the Hallis McCasky, who else?
The Maras with the Giants.
The Hunts.
The Roonies with the Steelers.
I mean, Kenyatta, I don't see it.
I mean, it could happen.
I mean, anything's possible.
But I mean, it's, it's tough.
It's tough.
I can, I can just imagine how they feel, Ocho,
because it's so entrenched in them.
Yeah.
And now, and now it's gone.
Dang.
Damn.
Ocho, we got,
I guess, I hope for the kids want to,
want to carry on.
Now, I'm selling every, I'm selling.
They don't want to
They don't want no part of
They listen
My kids
They don't seem to be fooling myself
Ocho
See I hope my kids
Come around
They're not
Nope
My neither
They into their own
They're into their own
special thing
They got their own lane
Each and every last one on
Mm-hmm
They like
They like what they like
And I'm okay with that
I'm okay with that
I'm okay with that
Jello Ball
says he rarely
tips more than $10 or $20 regardless
of the cost of the meal. I mean, if I'm at
a restaurant, I leave a little tip.
I ain't going to Chipotle leaving a tip
or McDonald's, none of that. But I can
get, you know, get like a $400 meal.
I'm going to leave like $10, $20.
You know, you know, I will lie
at night. That's how I rock, you for real.
I ain't doing no 20%. I ain't
going to lie. It's either $10 or $20.
You were great.
And you get $20.
You were cool. I shoot you a cool
10 just for being there.
Oh, Cho, we were just talking about last week.
You also, I guess, you shooting a cool 20 on a $400 bill, oh, Cho?
Yeah, nah, $400 bill, they're getting a $1,000 tip.
Yeah, I mean, hello bad, jellos say.
Jellon said, you are high here.
You get 20.
It's all on what your value, huh?
It's all in what your value, you know?
you know they they they they they don't value looking they don't value they they value looking
the part they value looking rich no they value looking like they got it but when it comes time to
you know to being gracious you know to to a server or a waitress or or a patron that's in the
service industry oh now it's a problem yeah oh now it's only $20 I mean so I mean I it is it is
you know that that's that's his way of doing things and I have my way of doing things yeah I'm a
I ain't given no $1,000.
I mean, it all depends.
If I got a $10,000 bill, which I don't,
I ain't going to have one, I would leave that.
But, you know, I was at a place last night,
and the guy was great bringing the drinks
and, you know, brought me a couple of ginger rails,
you know, had a side car, you know,
with that old Shade by La Porte, hey, who.
I thought, hey, and I was like,
damn, I forgot to get it.
So I called my guy back to, hey, man,
get a guy that was serving us through a drink.
Give him $100.
It's because I had already left the bartender.
you know, that was making the drinks.
I left for $100 and I want to get him because, I mean,
man, he had my stomach slushing around with all the gingerill.
He kept bringing over there.
But, no, and, you know, people clean the room.
Yeah.
Like I said, I keep, you know, I keep a little change on me to clean the room.
I give them like $30.40.
Turned down service.
I give him $30.40.
Yeah.
Something like that.
Mm-hmm.
But, no, I mean, $20.
Not $10.20.
I don't remember last time I left $10, $20 on the bill.
Probably like, uh, okay, it all depends.
I mean, I get my nails done.
I normally lose $20.
Yeah.
Because the bill is like 75, 80 bucks.
I give them 20.
That's 25%, Ocho.
Yeah.
You're right.
You're right.
You're right.
Yeah.
You know, I don't, you know, I don't really look at percentages, huh?
Man, I just.
I look at percentages.
Yeah, I got you.
I got you.
You know, I just, I mean, I probably, if I had that 60, if I had that 6,900, I probably
stopped looking at percentages, y'all.
69, you're talking about 57.
No, no, Ocho, Ocho, interest.
What interest?
Ocho, that thing coming on.
Hey, that thing about to hit 26.
You feel good about yourself, Ocho?
Christmas coming up, man.
Yeah, for me too.
Hey, Christmas coming.
You know, like, you know what it's going to have to celebrate Christmas.
No, I'm for, no, I'm going to see.
That's your Christmas gift.
That's your, that's your, hey, man, Merry Christmas.
Merry Christmas.
Here you go.
Chad, y'all, chat, I'm going to need y'all to make that make sense to me.
This man owe me.
He said my Christmas gift is the money that he owes me.
Right.
That ain't no gift, Ocho.
You owe me that.
Yeah, I owe you.
I owe you a Christmas present.
I'm giving you a gift.
No, no, no, no.
You don't want me no Christmas present.
You owe me the money that you owe me.
Right.
And what better time to give it to you then on Christmas?
you said you said it just right no no no oh cho i can't i can't i can't i can't i can't i can't i ain't
a little 50 that little no i mean you're going to shoot me seven you can go ahead and shoot me seven k
i want to get those on lb boots that uh for real just came out where man they cost eight they cost
18000 they cost 82,000 oh
So you're going to take the money I give you
and go wasting on some boots?
Why are you worried about what I do about?
Hey, listen, you, you are on a show
with arguably the cheapest athlete of all times
and think I'm going to give you $50,900
so you can go spend on some 82,000 LV boots?
You know what?
You know what?
Since you put it like that,
I'm going to shoot you because I don't like the way you moving.
So I'm just going to, you know,
I'm going to have to do something with your paycheck.
I don't like the way you move it.
Chad,
how does this man go tell me because I want to buy something?
He's going to talk about,
nah,
I ain't going to pay you not because you're going to go waste that.
You're going to go waste my money.
That's not your money.
It's okay to buy some.
It's not okay to go buy that.
That you don't need to tell me what I do with my money.
We owe now,
you know,
we need to buy,
we need to buy things we need.
We don't need to buy things we won't.
Now,
when we were in our 20s and 30.
I might want to get buried in those boots.
You might want to get buried in them.
Nah, they ain't going to mess the black tuxedo.
Hey, I want to be buried in Thames.
Oh, yeah, no.
Nah.
Nah, they got to bury.
I don't want to be cremated.
That fire hot.
Hey, you know what I'm saying?
Hey, Ojo, you know, hey.
Hey, I don't want no fight.
That's what I do it.
That's what I do it right now, which I won't fight twice.
Yeah, I got you.
Hey, there it is.
It's all about learning for your lesson.
It's all about learning for your lesson.
All right, guys, we're going to get you here on this one.
It's time for our final segment of the evening.
It's time for Q and A.
Oh, this is a good one, don't you?
That's a good one.
What having?
Adj, J, 543.
uncle nocho would you rather date someone whose favorite team is your favorite team or her team is a rival to yours seem like it would be fun to go at it hey honestly to me i would love to date someone which i'm doing right now and that rival that rivalry is going to happen this sunday you know i want them i want them to like the opposite team you heard me so yes what we say rivalry i'm just say let's say not rivalry let's say two team her team is one and no robbery it's got to be the
The Steelers or the Browns.
Okay, hey, that'd be dope.
That, that'd be dope.
I think that would be fun.
I think that would be fun.
Yeah, that'd be healthy for the relationship.
No.
You don't like that?
No, you root for my team.
Damn, uh?
Under, under, under this roof, everybody, we won a chord.
Right, okay.
Okay, one band, one sound.
Yep.
Okay.
I don't know what it is, man.
I mean, like, everybody be lacking them damn cowboys.
man they love the cowboys man right right oh okay okay those that women you mean yeah why
they like the cowboy so much i don't know i don't know i don't know i don't know if it's the
uniforms or my dad liked the cowboys or i grew up watching the cowboys i don't know the reason why right
no you ain't fin to be yelling and screaming well first of all you can like who you like because
I watch the TV to my by myself right so I'm in another part of the room and then when
they get to screaming for their team I'm like no you got to cut that you got too much right
right no no we need to be on the same team both you're the same team we're the same team we're in
the same house yeah that that ain't fun though aunt that ain't that ain't that ain't that ain't fun
oh Joe I always have watch parties I'll ask who you for man you know you can't come you
But to root for my team.
Nah, see, I don't like that.
That ain't going to make a fun.
My fighter, hey, I'm going for such-as-such-such.
Man, come on.
Well, I'm sure they got a, they got parties
where you can go root for the other fighter.
Yeah, that's a boring party, huh?
How are you going to have a fight party
and everybody in there going for the same person?
Yeah, that's fun.
Nah, that ain't, that ain't fun.
He gets some energy, maybe, maybe he.
I need some arguing.
I need to see emotion throughout, throughout the game.
Oh, how we don't score on your team.
Nine, nanny, boo-boo.
You know, I need that.
Oh, Cho.
The last part I had, last thing I had, I had to have, like, seven, eight guys came over,
and they watched, we watched the New England, Seattle.
Yeah.
Ocho, man, with Russ through that pick.
Oh, Super Bowl.
And I know, I know that hurt.
It was like, it was like somebody had died.
They were like, man, sharp, can you believe he did that?
I'm like, no, hell, nah, can't believe he did that.
What the hell of y'all?
Yeah, that was cool.
Nobody could believe he did that.
The Patriots couldn't even believe he did that, let alone Seattle fans.
I mean, they're glad he did do it.
Yeah.
But hell not, I ain't never seen no mess like that before.
That game should have been won.
I ain't never see.
I don't know.
will ever see another ending like that, Ocho.
Top Chef Mexican, Mexican, let's go.
Say Maine.
Hey, Maine.
You know what that mean, Ocho?
I don't.
Ricardo Lazo 4402.
Texans got a gauntlet schedule left,
but we needed this one to keep our playoff hopes alive.
You're absolutely right.
You're absolutely right.
But you got a defense.
You got a defense that'll keep you at every game.
but when you play like you when your offense is like that they just can't turn it over
and put you on a short field I mean think about it
the defense only gave up 12 points that was a kickoff return yeah that's a kickoff return
they didn't get that on the defense Kenny Hudson 7318 the offensive line let
Josh down tonight be free send help they did
They got their ass kick tonight.
They got their ass kick tonight.
Aaron Owens, 513, which Bulls group around Jordan and Pippen was better?
The first three Pete or the second three Pete?
I think the second because they had Rodman.
Robben led the league and rebounding every year he was there.
I mean, just imagine what.
Think about it now.
We applaud guys to get 12, 13.
Robin was getting 18 rebounds a game.
Damn.
always in the right place.
Yeah.
For me, I would say, I would say Jordan was more athletic the first time around.
But for me, because the addition of Jordan, I mean, the addition of Rodman, I would say the second.
Red Hood, 66378, Bill's fan said Lamar two interception, no TDs was bad, hold on.
Bill's fan said Lamar two interceptions, no TDs was bad just for Josh.
to have a worse that line to lose to that level
to beating the Texans
ain't for everyone.
Look, he didn't play well tonight.
No.
I mean, you know, and I think it wasn't that he didn't play well.
I think the Texans had a lot to do why he didn't play well.
You get sacked eight times.
It's hard to overcome eight sacks.
Now, it's been, it's happened.
We saw Joe get sacked in Tennessee.
He got sacked nine times.
And he was able to overcome that.
But the Texans didn't help him by turning the ball over.
And had they turned the ball over,
given the Buffalo bills a short field?
Maybe we're having a different outcome,
even with the way the defense played.
But the Texans didn't help them tonight.
I mean, I don't really look at it like, well, Lamar did this.
They both lost.
Lamar lost to the bills.
The bill lost to the Texans.
Joseph Salazar won.
I don't care.
what you say, H-Town is D-1, is the number one D.
Yeah, you do, yeah, we, you guys have the best defense.
Yeah, I agree with that.
Yeah, we not argue, we aren't.
Y'all got, y'all number one, a lot of other stuff too,
but, you know, we can't talk about that.
26, we're going to talk about it.
Can't talk about it right now, 25.
Come on, 25, get out of here.
E.J. Hutton, 42, your bills and Chiefs coming back to Earth.
Man, I mean, you got to realize that she's been up in orbit for so long.
Damn, they should have to come back down to Earth, don't you think?
Yeah.
They've been in an AFC championship game every year since Mahomes been the starter.
They won the division every year since my home's been the starter.
So you got to actually they won the division.
The last time they didn't win the division was 2015 when the Broncos won it.
That's crazy.
So they won it with Alex Smith and they won it every year Mahomes has been there.
So 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24.
And they won it and they won it in 17.
So they, no, I mean, damn.
L pre-90, you wore 81, 82, 84 jersey numbers in your playing days.
What went into a change into 84 back in 92?
How much the Sterling's number play a role?
I wanted that number.
Obviously, a rookie, I mean, Ricky Detail had that number.
And he wasn't going to give it to no rookie that possibly didn't make the team.
Right.
But once I found out Ricky Nat wasn't coming back in night,
And at the end of the 91 season,
man, I called Coach Reed and say, Coach Reed,
could I get 84?
Like, yeah, I don't see why not.
Just call the, hey, I say, hey, I call Ronnie Bill.
I said, hey, I need to get that 84.
Make sure you put sharp on the back of it.
Because I, because that, I wore two in college.
I had, uh, uh, I wore three in high school.
my brother had three, so I wore three in high school.
Yeah.
So that was the really only time I've ever had a number.
I always had like when I was a running back, I was 22.
When I was a wide receiver, I was number 80.
I played offensive line.
I was 64.
Yeah, Ochoa, I played everything.
I played everything except Center.
I was a guard, a tackle, a running back, quarterback,
wide receiver, tight-in.
Oh, man.
Cal Simpson, 75, 83, Uncle Ocho.
the Texas hit Superman with the red cryptonite.
Somebody called Daily Planet.
Metropolis is doomed.
Between y'all see Marshawn directed the orchestra, hilarious.
He's a national treasure.
Ah, man, Beastmo be on one, man.
That joke will be all over the place.
Doing some of everything.
He's funny.
But Ocho and I, we're about to hit the roll.
Comic book nerd, 1783, 21 plus fans' skull,
then hit the bed this game.
Allen is terrible.
Nah, Alan ain't terrible.
Yeah, don't do that.
Hey, don't let one game fool you.
Yeah, no, no, no, he's a real deal.
So I guess you didn't see the previous week where he's,
only two guys have ever had three touchdown passes and three touchdown rushes
in a single game.
Allen has done it twice.
Terrible people don't do that.
Dave, that dude 74, just sending love to nightcap weight.
Thank you, Dale.
Appreciate that.
We appreciate the love.
I don't even know what that's a
Ocho takes Viagro on Game Day for performance
he said so
he said he took a half of one
not the full, he ain't want the full effect
Yeah, you don't take the whole thing
Just clip off a little bit
Get the blood flow going
You know
It allows you to be much more explosive
In everything that you do
I'll take your word for it.
Yeah, yeah.
Kaelin Blake Moore, 4917.
What's up Uncano's your best show on YouTube easily?
What were the things that motivated you both to become who you are now?
I mean, the same thing that drove us to become what became in football.
That don't leave.
Yeah.
Once that's in you, that doesn't leave you.
Yeah.
To be great at what you do, that doesn't leave.
You just choose to be great at something else.
I wanted to be the best football player
that I could possibly be.
Then I transitioned, try to be the best podcast
or whatever, you know, on their personality.
I could possibly be.
I try to be the best person I can possibly be.
That doesn't leave when you transition from one job to another.
You just constantly try to be the best.
You see, George, he tried to be the best basketball player.
He got a fishing crew.
He used to have a motorcycle crew.
Now he got a NASCAR crew.
He tried to be the best.
That's, you know, some things you can control,
some things you can't.
I mean, you can't help if people like you
or the product that you produce.
In football, I can control that.
My efforts get to dictate how good I am, Ocho.
But in this space, other people have to tell us
how good we are.
Right.
That's what motivated me.
Ocho, what motivated you?
I mean, I was self-motivated.
I just wanted to be good at everything I did.
And not only do I want to be good at everything I did,
I want to make sure I did whatever it is I was interested in
or whatever I was passionate about,
I want to make sure I did it my way.
Yep.
I wanted to make sure I did it my way.
I don't want to do it like anybody else.
You know, I took motivation.
Other people were motivating to me, you know,
but I was self-motivated.
I didn't rely on seeing another do something.
And then I'd be like, oh, my God, I got to do that.
That's one of the problems a lot of people have
is with motivation, you also have to have discipline.
the two go hand in hand.
I have really, really, really good discipline
when it comes to locking in on something
and wanting to hit it,
whether it be short term or long term.
And that's something that a lot of people are lacking.
Yeah, I'm not sure motivation.
I'm not sure discipline is more important.
I'm not sure that discipline isn't more important
than motivation.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Because everybody at some point in time,
we all lose not motivated to do something,
but are you disciplined enough to still get up and go do it?
You have to get up and do it.
Yep, there you go.
Fins NJ 245, who's coaching the Bills next year?
Better job, bills and giants.
Bills?
Yeah, that's easy.
But they're not fine with the McDermott.
And 2366, so does it make Bo Necks the Clutch's quarterback this season?
He did with NFL MVP Josh Allen Cutton.
We won't all the smoke endeavor.
Let them know, Unc.
Uh-oh.
Man, look here.
And I ain't going to lie to you, but I'm nervous
because I've never seen the team have the best record in football
but the most punts in the NFL.
That's not a great combination.
It's really not.
And you see the Chiefs, last year the Chiefs were 15 and 2.
Although they had an NFL record,
most consecutive wins and one-score games.
We're winning a lot of these one-score games.
We ain't really blowing nobody out yet.
I'm nervous.
Obviously, you know, I want the Cowboys to do us Cowboys.
I want the Broncos to do well.
But, man, I'm nervous because Bo puts that ball in harm
way too much for me, man.
Numerous Cowboys really bitch.
They're two-star receivers for going on a two-man.
Oh, don't let the Cubeo Warriors raid bet you on Twitter.
And Ocho, we got the Bingle Guppies,
oh, prime time in a month.
Love the show.
Yeah, who you're going to go for,
who when when the bingles play the guppies who are you going for i'm just watching the game
i ain't really going for nobody you know whoa chase joe burr do you hear that let me ask you
blackburn did you hear that i think about this i think about this when travis kelsey and jason kelsey
played who did miss donna go for first of all she had a son play on both teams you didn't play on the
Yeah, I did.
That's my home team.
That's where I grew up.
You didn't play for that team.
I got paid.
They paid you, they paid you a training camp money.
No, no, no.
I signed.
What are you talking about?
I got traded.
I got a deal.
I got paid.
You didn't get traded there.
I did.
Well, what have I got there?
I got a big check.
So therefore, whether I played it down and not, I got a little check.
And I still got it.
So I played.
There it is.
First of all.
I want to know who put you on financial independence.
Who put you on the road to financial freedom,
whether the Gupp is or the Bengals?
My grandma.
Okay.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It would be very interesting.
Almighty James, two times nine, ten,
Ocho, please stop.
The Bengals aren't winning.
They're not.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Yo, and I'm sure y'all said the same thing
when the goddamn Dolphins played the goddamn bills two weeks ago.
Everybody said that, too.
saw what happened right yeah okay
I saw what happened with a guy
that threw for 40 that's thrown for under
100 yards five times this year beat y'all
who
who didn't the jazz beat y'all
oh yeah that would luck you know even a squirrel
even a squirrel get in that every blue moon guess what
y'all been unlucky
how many games y'all won this yocho
three
I think y'all are going to be at 3-44 Silver Future also.
Mighty underscore Mike O'1, man, child, please.
Shannon, stop disrespecting to the Bengals and Ocho.
We know the defense can't stop a parked car,
but that offense is explosive.
Yeah.
How many games y'all went with that explosive offense?
I just trying to figure out how many of your games y'all was.
Oh, man.
Realist said, Ocho, did you install those lights yourself?
Which lights?
The lights you got on right now.
Yeah.
Nah, nah.
These, what you call them?
Little stand-up lights that I stole from a commercial set.
Might be two-time underscore.
Unk need that 5,900.
Not 5900.
5900.
590.
Love y'all, man.
Also, my alma model, Texas.
Western, have a playoff game Saturday.
Can y'all wish them good luck?
That's right, Mike.
Thank you.
I need my money.
And good luck to your alma mater, Texas Western.
Oh, yeah.
Texas Wesleyan.
Hopefully you guys get that win.
I'm assuming it's football.
That's what I'm assuming.
I don't want to be, I know it's presumptuous of me,
but I'm going to say it is football.
Good luck, Mike.
Mike Banks 9.
Which new error receiver compared to Chad?
I say nobody, but I love the opinion of y'all.
birthday coming up to win January 9th coming up
who you think, Ocho, who reminds you of you?
Devonte, JSCN.
Nah, probably DeVante, probably the close.
I wish I could add my goddamn personality
and in some of these boys, man.
No, that don't make them, you say you want to do things your way.
Don't you want them to do it their way?
Yeah, but they need to push the envelope.
No, no, no.
What did they say?
say, man, we wish you to be like
Blair Fitzgerald. Man, we wish you to be
like Megatron. No.
Okay, see, there you go. Thank you.
Tito Davis said, oh, you're from Chicago.
You can rep the Bears and the Bulls.
No.
I rep
the Ravens and the Broncos.
Because that's who I play for.
That's who put me on the road to
Independence. Also
played for the Bengals and the Patriots.
Yeah.
And the dolphins.
Nope.
You ain't played for no Dolphins.
If I got a check, I'll leave.
What?
If I got a check, I played.
No.
My 10 year anniversary to my baby is coming up where you give her a shout out for me on December 10th from another super chat.
Man, you ain't give us no name.
But hey, Jerome Harris, baby, wanted to give you a shout out.
10 years.
Man, that's a decade.
Yeah.
A decade of every.
every day having those problem solved because every day she's not at her best,
every day you're not at your best.
And you guys have the problem solved.
And you know what?
Ten years.
You guys have been at this thing.
Here's to another ten years.
Congratulations, Jerome.
Oh, yeah.
That concludes this episode of Nightcap.
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take down to Buffalo Bills by the score of 23 the 19.
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Again, the Houston Texans behind eight sacks, three takeaways,
take down the Buffalo Bills by the score of 23 to 19.
Davis Mills has done a great job.
He's kept the ship steady.
Kevin afloat and we'll see if C.J. Straub can come back and keep it going forward.
We'll see you Saturday back with our other third member, Johnny Mansell,
after college football.
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Thank you guys for joining us
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