Club Shay Shay - Nightcap - Hour 2: Jason Kelce incident, Anthony Richardson benched, Tom Brady's cryptic post
Episode Date: November 6, 2024Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson recap the top stories from Week 9 of the NFL season including Jason Kelce smashing a fan’s phone after a slur about Travis, Indianapolis Colts Anthony... Richardson getting benched for veteran Joe Flacco, Tom Brady posting cryptic song lyrics after ex-wife Gisele’s pregnancy announcement and much more!03:18 - Jason Kelce smashes fan’s phone for calling Travis a slur11:10 - Derrick Henry’s diet14:55 - Where would NFL players NOT want to play?21:10 - Anthony Richardson gets benched26:25 - Tom Brady reacts to Gisele pregnancy announcement30:25 - Jameson Williams could face another suspension(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Also, we had another incident, Ocho. Video has emerged this morning showing Jason Kelsey
walking to Penn State Beaver Stadium and getting approached by college students shouting his name and
asking for a fist bump.
Excuse me.
One person can be heard heckling Kelsey using the derogatory language about his brother
Travis and girlfriend Taylor Swift.
Hey Kelsey, how does it feel that your brother is a, you know, the gay slur for dating Taylor Swift?
The person yelled.
Jason was not having any of it.
As he turned, stopped, turned around,
grabbed the person's phone and slammed it to the ground.
As Jason goes to pick the phone up, the guy shoves it.
So he got the phone.
And Jason hands the phone back to him and says,
who's the F now?
Three times. Right back, Jason, don't do that. And Jason had the phone back to his head. Yeah, if now three times right back Jason
Don't do that
Don't put your phone in people's faces give people space show respect
It's okay if the guy don't want to fist bump you guys
It's okay. It's not the end of the world. He had the phone all out, all in the man space.
Man, y'all did, yeah.
Come on, come on.
See, I used to think we're better than this, but we're not.
Cause after a certain point in time,
this is who we are.
This is who, this is what we've become as a society
because what the internet has done is made so many people famous and so many
people want their 10 15 minutes of fame that they're willing to cross lines.
Yeah.
In order to achieve it.
But sometimes you can make the wrong play on the wrong day.
Leave people alone. I look, I get it.
Oh, so sometimes we do our job.
We have to talk about people.
And we have to talk about the football and like we talked about the Tom Brady situation and his wife, they moved on, they go in their separate ways and X, Y,
and Z. But I'm just trying to figure out.
Travis Kelsey dating Taylor Swift, that impacts this gentleman's life. And why would you say, why would you call
that man out of his say his brother out of his name? So how do you think the man
was going to respond? Why? I mean, why would you do that? You went there with
the person to try to get a reaction out of kills out of Jason.
I mean, why why why kids though
so you already know how they are they're not thinking straight they're nothing
they say in the first thing come to mind so you know why so the college kids are
they gonna be adults in college now you know you was wild now you know yeah but
I call nobody that but oh Joe like I said I'm look I'm big on respect I ain't called nobody. But Ocho, like I said, I'm big on respect.
I ain't going to nobody face being disrespectful.
And if I don't like somebody, I'm not talking to them.
You have to understand the world we're in today.
You have to understand these kids in the area.
You just said it yourself.
Tension, media, going viral, internet.
How can I make a name for myself?
I mean, just all that stuff tied in today.
You know, kids don't know how to act. And you know, this is the era of cell phones and
recording every goddamn everything.
They do. It is. We've gotten to the point. We put everything on the internet. We put
what we're eating, what we're wearing and X, Y, and Z. It's just, they got to the point, man. It just. You got to tune everything, you know?
I just don't know.
I just wish Jason wouldn't have had
to yell those words back to him.
Right.
Just kept it moving.
Just grabbed him.
He did what he did, but just keep it moving.
Don't lure yourself to yeah yeah I just I just
I just hated that some people go out go out of their way trying to get a celebrity or
an entertainer or somebody famous to get a reaction out of them I hate that that's where
we are right now oh try I object if it's somebody that I don't like, I don't follow them.
If they something come up on my feed,
I scroll right past it.
I don't listen to their music.
I don't watch their films.
Okay, we don't jive, we don't get along.
I don't kind of like what you stand for.
Okay, ain't no harm, no foul.
And I'm definitely not gonna seek that person out
to try to start a confrontation
or try to get out there somehow.
Just you know you're just aboard the situation but I just don't get mad people now damn is
and I could oh I said before we started this is who we are now because you know you remember say oh are we really that bad or we really like this at some point in time you got to come to
conclusion this is who we are this is this is
what I become as a society you got mad with dude in the airport you had a beer
yeah with the dog yes yes yes he wanted him because I still don't know how you know like I said he
must he must have been expecting somebody else was there because nobody knew I was there that day because normally I get a service to take me. I drove myself. So nobody comes in. Sometimes they'll, Hey,
I'm picking up Shannon Sharp or somebody or a restaurant say, Oh, reservations Shannon
Sharp, Ocho Cinco made reservation in the proper Rossia show up. Sometimes they have,
you know, uh, uh, assistance or that alert the proper Rossia show up. Sometimes they have, you know,
assistance or that alert the proper Rossia so they can get pictures.
So I was very cautious that day
to make sure that I drove myself.
And normally when I go to the airport
or even anything in that,
I have someone to drive for me.
But I was cautious that day.
And I noticed him earlier, Ocho.
But I say, well, you know what? Nah, nah, nah. And the thing was is that, but I was cautious that day. And I noticed him earlier, Ocho, but I said, well, you know what, nah, nah, nah.
And the thing was is that, like I said,
the lady had come,
cause she had to pick the dog up from one country.
She had to fly from one country,
go to another country to get the dog,
bring the dog back to me.
She was only gonna be in the airport for like 10 hours
because the next flight was going
to leave so so my thing is I'm giving this lady a lot of money I need to make sure she gets back
through security so I was like ma'am do you mind if we do the transaction over there and she's like
sure no problem because at first I didn't see her because she had she had Teddy in a carrier. So I'm looking up and I call Sheila.
Shelly, I don't see this lady.
Shelly get on the phone, call the lady.
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He got his look, you know, he got his moment of fame,
but I mean, to call somebody brother name derogatory,
what, what, come on bro, come on, you in college.
Man.
Well, that's what happened.
I mean, people, people get really disrespectful
because they ain't never been slapped before.
You gotta make an example.
So, you know.
Yeah, man, I just, that's why you think
I stay in the house, Ocho?
People like me, no, cause I just, I just,
I just wanna be left, hey, you know, hey.
Right.
I get from point A to point B, I'm walking.
Oh yeah.
Cause Jordan, you know, Jordan,
he worked for the whatever airline we flying on,
cause he got to get everybody they bags.
Me and Ashton got up the plane, I was like,
hey, what the F is Jordan?
I said, don't worry about it.
You out of there.
You can wait, I'm gone.
He getting everybody bagged.
You need your bag, man?
Here you go.
Sir, you need your bag? Which one is Jordan? Jordan, you do not work for this airline. you. He's getting everybody
back. You need your bag, man.
Here you go. Sir, you need your
bag. Which one is going?
Jordan, you do not work with
this airline. Do you hear about
Derrick Henry? No gluten, no
fried food, no dairy, nothing
processed. How they're working
out for him, Mocho. Derrick
Henry, King Henry. I don't
know how it's working for him. It's working good, ain't it?
I don't know. I'm asking you.
He says he doesn't eat processed food.
He doesn't eat fried food.
He doesn't eat anything with gluten.
He doesn't eat anything with dairy.
You know what?
I'm asking you.
I don't believe him.
How about that?
I don't believe.
Where's Derrick Henry from?
He from the Cree?
Derrick Henry from Florida.
Yeah, he's from the area. and
that **** lying, man. I ain't
listening to him, man. It's not
lying, man. Hey, but hey, yeah,
yeah. I mean, I think for you,
I mean, I think the thing is
when you take that, think about it. Derek Henry had almost 1400.
Yeah.
I saw the graphic.
Topped on with another, another 600 in college.
Topped on with another 2000 in the NFL.
Yeah.
He, I don't, I ain't gonna lie to you.
I don't know if he eats fast food.
He might not be fast food,
but everything he ran off and might've said
for media-wise, for good context,
but look what I'm eating,
and which is why I'm playing so well,
I ain't believing that shit.
I can tell you that.
Yeah, but I think, no, no, no, I totally can believe it.
Cause I was like that during the season.
I didn't eat anything fast food.
I stuck to the Tupperware.
And then I had a situation where maybe like
for like two weeks, three weeks in the off season,
I would eat whatever I want.
Not every single day, but if there was a couple of days
I wanted to go to the Houston, which was one of my
which is one of my favorite restaurants.
I would go there and get the chicken back then
they used to have chicken tenders.
They don't have them anymore.
Or I get the burger. That's still my staple now.
But for the most part, for me, it was in my mind because I felt once I,
once I altered my diet, I felt I played better.
And so now I'm, my brain is convincing me that I played better on this.
You mind yourself and feeling like what you're consuming is improving your play when that really had nothing to do with it. The same way your mind,
you mindfuck yourself and say McDonald's don't mess up your play. You see how you mindfuck yourself?
Listen, stay with me now. There's a certain skill set that you've honed and perfected when you
started at Savannah State until you got to the NFL when you was with Denver. You worked on that craft
in the state until you got to the NFL when you was with Denver, you worked on that craft and you perfected it to a point to where you became all the famer. What you put in your
body ain't changing none of that. No it won't.
Yes it will.
God damn it it won't. I promise you we can argue all night that day.
So you did, so you didn't improve, you didn't do anything different. You's the man. So you, so you did, you did. So you didn't improve.
You didn't do anything different.
You ran the same.
You did the same drills in high school and college that you ran that you got to the NFL.
You change absolutely nothing.
Yeah, no, no, no.
Hold on.
Wait a minute.
Wait a minute.
So from high school, you changed absolutely nothing.
You did the exact same thing and high high school as far as the team when
it comes to training.
Did you change anything from
high school? Yes. College to the
NFL? Why? Because you had
already you hold your crap.
Why would you train a regiment?
I'm not talking about what I
consume eat.
So why would you change anything? That's my point.
It worked for me. I see what you're saying. Okay. I'm with
you a little bit. I'm with you a little bit. I'm with you. Talk
to me now. Come on.
Adam Shepter tweeted, Here's a sentence that hasn't been
written or ordered in this century. Since before Dan
Snyder owned an NFL franchise, players want to wind up in
Washington playing for the
commanders. According to Schefter in recent weeks there have been players who
privately stated or told their agents they wanted to be traded to the
commanders. Ocho ranked the current teams around the league that players
don't want to play for. You get Dallas, Las Vegas, Cleveland.
Places that...
Carolina, we gotta put Carolina in there. Listen, I think players will always wanna play for Dallas.
I'm gonna take that out.
I'm gonna take them off that list.
Cleveland, probably, because the quarterback situation,
even with James playing the way he played last week,
I don't think players will wanna go to Cleveland.
Carolina, for obvious reasons,
because right now things aren't going well for them.
Which one you gonna put first or where you going first?
Not going, well, I'm not going first.
Yes. Let's go Cleveland.
I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
Oh my Carolina.
Carolina first.
Hey, Carolina first and then Cleveland, after Cleveland, the Ra sorry. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Carolina first. Hey, Carolina first, and then Cleveland,
after Cleveland, the Raiders.
Okay, yeah.
I mean, having the Cowboys in that is, to me,
it's ridiculous because it's still America's team,
no matter what you want, whether they're winning,
whether they're losing, they steal the headlines regardless
because of who they are.
So I would never put them in a, and listen, anybody,
anybody that knows football in general, if you're a player,
you'd wanna play for the Cowboys.
You'd wanna play for the Cowboys.
And plus Texas and Las Vegas doesn't have,
Nevada doesn't have income, state income tax.
So that order was cool, right?
So Carolina, Carolina Cleveland race.
Yeah, yeah, oh yeah. I can see that Carolina Cleveland, right? Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah.
I can see that Carolina, Cleveland, it get cold
at least in Vegas. Right.
You know, I got eight games at home.
I'm indoors, no state income tax.
I got the strip.
Jacksonville, we added Jacksonville.
Where you want Jacksonville?
So would you go Carolina, Jacksonville, Cleveland,
Vegas, Dallas, last, or would you go Carolina, Cleveland,, Cleveland, Vegas, Dallas, Lass,
or would you go Carolina, Cleveland, Jacksonville, Vegas?
Man, listen, if you...
You don't.
And when I think about Jacksonville,
they got the quarterback.
They got the quarterback.
I really wouldn't consider a place I wouldn't wanna play
because hell, Brian Thomas Jr. could do it.
Are we sure they got the quarterback?
I mean they got a quarterback that's making a lot of money.
Are we sure?
Are we sure?
It's tough.
Hey listen, quarterback, hey listen, players get coaches fired.
I think Doug Peterson might be on the hot seat.
If he doesn't get fired, there's one person who's going to save his job.
That's Trevor Lawrence. That's Trevor Lawrence.
That's Trevor Lawrence. Hell, Trevor.
Matter of fact, Doug Peterson, you need to thank Trevor Lawrence and Brian Thomas Jr. ahead of time.
Thank him ahead of time because if you don't get fired this season,
I guarantee it's going to be because of the play of those two.
Man, I don't know how you keep that job if they don't make the playoffs.
Make what playoffsoff? I'm just gonna be honest. Who playoff?
That was okay.
I don't see how you keep that job, D.
Right.
I don't see how you keep that job, D.
Well, but yeah, I agree.
I think I'd go Carolina.
Man, but Cleveland fan base is so passionate.
They show up, that joke has been sucking for like forever.
And the fans, and the dog rap, they show up.
They be at their tailgate, I look, you know,
we played, I went to Cleveland, obviously in Baltimore,
they in the same division, and they be out there.
We played them in Denver a couple of times
at the old municipal stadium.
They be out there, oh, oh.
Now, you don't get that kind of support in Jacksonville
unless you win it, and you still ain't getting
the kind of support that they get in Cleveland.
And you damn sure ain't getting that in Cleveland,
and you damn sure not getting that in Vegas,
because a lot of the people in Vegas,
they're like transient.
You know, they came here from somewhere.
They're not Raiders fans.
But nah, yeah, Carolina would be last on my list.
I would say Carolina Jacksonville.
My plug Cleveland third because the fan base is passionate.
And we've seen when Jacksonville loses,
man them seats empty like a mug.
Them seats empty like a mug.
All it took was 10 games for the Indianapolis Coastal
bitch Anthony Richardson in favor of 39 year old Joe Flacco.
Even though Richardson is just 22 years of age,
10 games was enough of a sample size to draw the conclusion
that the last year number four overall pick
hasn't gotten it done.
Jalen Hurst is a prime example of giving a young quarterback
an opportunity to develop.
Hurst said his development is why teams should be patient
with young quarterbacks.
I think the thing, I think things do take time.
Things take time and everybody has a different approach
to going in.
I wasn't supposed to be the guy I am today.
Nobody expected that, but I took advantage
of my opportunities and that's what I encourage everyone
to do regardless.
I don't like the move.
I don't care what nobody's saying.
I don't like the move.
It's your number four pick, right?
It's your number pick.
Now, what I think, what I'm saying is happening,
I don't like the fact that they're benching him.
For one, he didn't play a lot of college football.
He didn't play a lot of college football.
He didn't get a lot of snaps.
The amount of snaps that needed to be able to come in
and transition into the NFL and be prepared.
You know?
Just being big, strong, fast, and having an arm, it not going to get it done. It's not going to get it.
So the only way to improve in NFL is with reps, with reps, with reps, with reps. He's the future
of the franchise. He's the number four quarterback. So the only reason I think they put Flacco in
is to save the season. Do we have a chance to make a run? So what we're going to do is we form for I think what they are for for right?
What's the tech? What's the code? No, I don't know if they
form for you don't think so. I don't know if they run for games
or Joe. They might have not that they're for 4500.
Yeah, I know. I knew it. So what they're doing with coach Mr.
Sikin is doing he's making a change because he feels the team has a chance and opportunity to make a run. At some point,
Anthony Richardson will be the future of the Colts, but right now we're going to put Flacco
in because he gives us, they think, they feel, which is true statistically, Flacco gives
them the best chance to win right now and compete.
And this is a compete division because the Houston,
the Texans aren't what they were. Jacksonville is very here to miss. We know what the Titans are.
Yeah. So and look, I know people are saying that, you know, he tapped out and that's one of the
reasons, but you got to look at his record. Ocho, this guy has a worse completion percentage than Tim Tebow. Tim Tebow completed 46% of his passes.
He's completing 44%.
That's 4% lower than Jamarcus Russell.
Did we think Jamarcus Russell and Tim Tebow
were good quarterbacks?
No, we didn't.
And his completion percentage is worse than theirs.
He needs time to watch.
They put him in too quick when he wasn't ready.
And what happens is, Ocho,
is that when you draft someone that high
and you draft them into that position,
you're not waiting because after the end of the third year,
Ocho, I'm gonna have to make a decision.
I'm about to have to get these guys $300, $400,
$500 million. I have to make a decision. I'm about to have to get these guys 300, 400, 500 million dollars.
I need to see.
Right.
And in the process of that,
because like you said,
he didn't play a whole lot of football
and he didn't play a whole lot of football
in a pro style offense.
Right.
A lot of his stuff he was running the football.
Well, you know, he said the NFL was easy.
I can't tell.
If the NFL is easy and you complete 44% of your passes.
Right. What the hell you think would happen if the NFL was hard, don't you? Can I tell you one more
thing, uncle, that I don't like? I'm just saying chat y'all stay with me real quick, real quick.
Like listen to me when it comes to the game of football. When you're drafted at high, you have
expectations, you have friends, you have people telling you this this you that and you you get to the NFL you get drafted that high
Then you plan you have a certain high a certain certain or and feeling about yourself
We you feel good, you know what if you like to get benched on?
Do you understand what it feels like to get benched though as a quarterback forget some of the other positions because some of the other positions
You have an opportunity to bounce back, you know, and you have an opportunity to to make those plays again.
But as a quarterback, I think it does, especially when you're young, it does something to your
psyche. I'm assuming it has to. It has to do something to your psyche. So now you're
telling me I'm playing bad. I'm playing so bad. You're going to sit me down and bench
me for Joe Flacco. So if I do get the opportunity to play again, what's the first fucking thing? I'm gonna do I'm gonna be goddamn indecisive
I'm gonna hopefully you learn. Hey, I'm gonna be hesitant. I'm not gonna make the big plays. I was making earlier. I
Just I don't I just last three games. We is weird to me. We like nine and ten passes
I don't know. Give me his last three games.
It's weird to me.
He can complete like nine and 10 passes.
Hopefully, hopefully he gets an opportunity
to sit and watch and then he can come.
He said, well, Joe, what if Joe asked him,
he can ask Joe, Joe, what did you see?
Why did you go there?
Right.
Because that's the biggest thing, Ocho.
You can't throw 30 passes and complete eight of them
in the NFL.
You're not gonna win like that. Yeah. And he, you know what? And then we can't throw 30 passes and complete eight of them in the NFL. You're not gonna win like that. Yeah
And he and then we can't we can't blame the receivers cuz they got they got a squad now
Yeah, and they got some boys now. Oh Joe Tom Brady post song lyrics after Giselle
Announces her pregnancy both Brady posted a sunset photo via his IG stories using the chicks cover landslide as background music.
He added song lyrics to,
Oh mirror in the sky, what is love?
Can the child within my heart rise above?
Can I sail through the changing ocean tides?
That must've been one of their songs together or something.
I'm, hey, hold on.
I'm confused though.
Hold on now.
So she-
What you confused by? P pregnant like like with a baby?
Yeah, what else she pregnant? No, she pregnant with a
If my man serves me correct, it's only been a year
So if it's up, you know, take but now I'm on bingo
So if her and Tommy just broke up not that long ago,
that mean her and Buddy had to be doing the do
while they were still together.
That might've been a problem,
but he might've been putting meat on her back then, okay?
Oh Lord, that ain't good, man.
Bro, hold on.
Why do you think somebody, because of who they are,
is exempt from what the casual man experienced everyday?
I just said that's messed up, you know, to do the,
you know, it is life though, it is what it is.
It is what it is.
They separated.
They separated, don't you?
Yeah, I know they separated now,
but I'm just saying, just the thought of it.
You might've been separated, but before you were separated,
you know, you was planting the seed already,
the seed might've been getting planted. I ain't no mother. Oh, look here.
Right. A lot of times men or women, they're not leaving the relationship unless they got
something lined up. There are very few people that will quit a job without having a job already
lined up. Now, sometimes it has happened. Just like sometimes people will quit a job without having the job already lined up. Now, sometimes it has happened,
just like sometimes people will leave a relationship and totally be scot-free,
but that's not, that's a rarity.
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait,
wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait,
say that again. Say, say, we should just say it one more time.
Normally people won't relieve a relationship unless they got something already lined up.
Now there is, there have been situations
where they just wanna get out from under that situation.
It's just like a job.
Sometimes people like, I ain't got nothing lined up,
but I just know I need to do this job.
But more times than not, people have another job already.
I'm about to do. That's crazy, bro.
But a baby though already?
Maybe she wanted one and Tom didn't. No,
man. Tommy would have gave
another one if she wanted
another one like you ain't been
to even been two years. Now,
you already got you already got
the why why why already. Hey,
so, so, hey, you broke up with
your girlfriend. You waiting.
Hey, we break up. I'm putting meat on somebody that you ain't going to hear.
Oh, shit.
I'm here.
My bad.
Hey, I need somebody to help me.
I need somebody to help me get over this.
Can you help me help you talk about that's temporary?
Hey that paying on seat right back in soon as you done.
You ever heard of post-nuclarity?
Well, that shit hurt you, boy.
Huh? Nah.
Yeah, all right.
All right.
Damn.
Hey, it happens, Ocho.
Once we go our separate ways, whatever you do,
that's your, first of all,
it was your hoo-ha when we was together. So if you chose to give it to somebody when we were together, time out rewind.
Let me tell you something. It's never your who ha ever, ever.
Lions wide receiver Jameson Williams could face his third suspension by the NFL. After
recent gun incident, Detroit Free Press reports,
Williams had a gun in his brother's car
during a traffic stop.
He did not have a permit to carry a concealed weapon.
Prosecutors are investigating the failure
to arrest Williams at the scene.
What happened was the police realized who he was,
they got an opportunity,
man, they got to be something special.
Detroit Paper Freedom of Information Act started digging like when man watch but
anyway the police officer could face charges of their own. It's all happening
while Williams is serving us to game suspension for violating the PEDs. He's
eligible to return Sunday after the game. Guys if you're gonna get a firearm, get it registered.
Get a firearm permit, a concealed weapons permit
to carry it.
Oh, come on, man, I know.
Ochoa.
D, but he don't like his money.
He don't like money.
He got suspended six games last year, Ocho, for betting
on football. He just got suspended for two games.
Hold on. You say he was driving in the car. You got pulled over, right?
His brother was driving. I guess it was his brother. He was in the passenger seat. His
brother was driving.
He was supposed to take that. He's supposed to take that.
When the officer come, do you have any?
Then he said, yeah, two of them.
One in the back seat, one on the passenger seat.
You riding, I mean, what you expect to pop off?
I ain't even got nothing for that,
but I can't fight for that one ever.
Yeah, man.
I'm not sure how Detroit State works
as far as being able to carry.
I know at home, at the crib,
I mean, now it's open carry state for whatever.
Hey, you're-
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Georgia's the same way.
Yeah, I mean, I used to have a car.
I had a car, you had a concealed weapons car.
But now they let you take that thing anyway.
You could take it anywhere.
That's why you have to be careful in the South.
Cause in the South,
hey, you run up on somebody and they got that thing.
Stained, stained.
All that road rage, you get out your car,
walking up on somebody,
you let you have it,
they have you doing the Macarena in the street.
Bad, please.
They get your button up, man.
Hey, yeah, you see, hey, that's why they hit every time.
Pow, oh, pow, oh, pow, pow.
That's a good one. Leave them people pow, oh, pow, oh, pow, pow. That's a groove.
Leave them people alone.
Hey, somebody cut you off?
Go ahead, bro.
Obviously you in a hurry.
When people cut me off,
I tell them speed on, hell ain't fool yet.
That's a groove.
That's what you're trying to go to.
But hey, I ain't finna,
now back when I was young, old, young, Shay,
you know, hey, I drive in front of them and I slow down, old, young Shay, you know, hey,
I drive in front of them and I slow down.
Now what?
Now all of a sudden, oh, you got a problem. You cut me off.
I just did the favor, turned the favor.
Not no more, Ocho.
People let you have it out there.
Well, we let each other have it.
Let me take that. We let each other, cause you best believe, hey, yo let each other have it. Let me take that.
We let each other,
cause you best believe,
hey, yo, don't play that.
Man, I just, come on, Ocho.
Guys, we gotta be smarter than this.
But I get, if this is, here's the thing.
If it's his brother's car,
and his brother's driving up a passenger, I'm good.
Hey, that ain't got nothing to do with me.
I don't know what you want me to say.
Hey, I'm just a passenger in the car.
Damn, man.
Fuck, man.
I hate, I hate, it's one one thing on top of another yeah I think it
was Texas a dude roll rage and the dude got out yeah he shot it on the guy's
window did he man you coming somebody in a threat to matter you yelling and screaming just roll down the
window let him had it.
Even if he wasn't a threat.
Didn't he die?
No, hold on, Ocho, what he did,
he walked up.
Oh, now that's a different story.
Now you talking.
Even if he didn't have it, you
can't walk up on somebody
babbling on their window.
You approaching someone in a threatening manner.
And you gotta be, hey.
Why would you walk up?
Just hey, once you draw on,
call the rule number one.
If you from the crib, once you pull your weapon.
If you wanna pull it out, you better let it go. Gotta let it go. you gotta let it go. If you wanna pull it out, you better let it go.
Gotta let it go.
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