Club Shay Shay - Nightcap Hour 2: Jayson Tatum LOOKING to RETURN to Celtics + Are the CAVALIERS BACK?! + Kevin Durant’s FUTURE & LEGACY + Kevin Patullo HEADED to MIAMI

Episode Date: February 12, 2026

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I'm Bowen-Yang. And I'm Matt Rogers. During this season of the Two Guys Five Rings podcast, in the lead-up to the Milan-Cortina-2026 Winter Olympic Games, we've been joined by some of our friends. Hi, Boen, hi, Matt, hey, Elmo. Hey, Matt, hey, Bowen. Hi, Cookie.
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Starting point is 00:01:09 rumors, not so accurate stats, and plenty more. What's up, man? This is your boy, Nav Green, from the Broken Play Podcast. Look, it's the end of the season, the playoffs are here. Guess what? It ain't the end of your season. You can always tune in with Broken Play Podcasts with Nav Green on the Black Effect Podcast Network.
Starting point is 00:01:25 Not a team who ain't going to the playoffs. They're cheap. It's time to rebuild. Listen to Broken Play with Nav Green from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the Iheart Radio app. Apple Podcasts or whatever you get your podcast. The Celtics acquired Nikola Busovich has people believing that Jason Tatum could return for a postseason run, per Jake Fisher. Sources say the Celtics decision to acquire Nicola Boosovich from Chicago before the trade deadline in exchange for Anthony Simon's expiring contract was a clear indicator that Boston believed Tatum will indeed return for a postseason run.
Starting point is 00:01:58 Joe, this is your level of expertise? What you're thinking? I thought that quietly, Uncle Ocho, this was probably the biggest acquisition during the trade deadline. Because Boston, not only do, you know, they get a pretty good big who can pick and pop, you can play through him, he can pass. You know, he don't really have many weaknesses.
Starting point is 00:02:24 He might be a little deficient when it comes to defense, but for the most part, going to be surrounded by guys where he can really flourish. And he's going to be a great, that's a great spot for them. Okay, Ocho, they were lacking in that area. So to give up Simons and give Vucevich, man, listen, I don't know if Tatea, I'm still skeptical about him trying to come back. Okay, Ocho, I'm going to be honest with y'all.
Starting point is 00:02:46 It's too early, Joe? Well, it's an Achilles, man. Like, you got a, like, before he get out there, he probably, he's going to have to have to rev that thing up to really, really see. Y'all don't know how tender that is, man. And then now we're talking about this playoff basketball from here going forward. Right. He's going to be playing at such a high level.
Starting point is 00:03:05 It's like, that's going to be a lot of wear and tear real quick. So I don't know if it's really worth it, honestly. So they probably brought, they probably brought Bigfellow over there so he can help J.B. contribute offensively and see what type of run they can. Yeah, I don't think they thought they would be with the injuries that they had. I think that's why they moved because J.T. was going to be out. And so you've seen them break that team apart. They let Al Hartford go.
Starting point is 00:03:30 They traded a holiday and brought Simon's in. They traded Christopher Singas. So they were probably looking at Ocho from a standpoint, like, you know what? There's going to be a down year. Let's get some relief. They sold a team. The New Orleans like, yeah, get some relief because we ain't playing, paying all this money to be out of the playoffs.
Starting point is 00:03:50 And lo and behold, J.B. is playing like an MVP. Peyton Pritchie has been sensational. White, Derek White has been Derek White. playing both the ends of the court. And so guys are playing houses coming off the bench and playing really well. So guys have played above what I, maybe even Joe Missoula thought they could be in the level.
Starting point is 00:04:09 Damn. I agree. Man, hold on. I agree. We might could. It ain't no foregone. Ain't no invincibles over here on the eastern side. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:21 The Knicks look good. Okay. Yeah, you know, Detroit, Toronto, Philly, kind of been up and down. But it ain't no. The Nick ain't no invincible. Ain't no, oh, it ain't no 60 win teams over here. No.
Starting point is 00:04:36 So I think that's how they're looking at it. Yeah, I'm with you on that. I think a lot of us didn't, I know I didn't have the Celtics in the top of the east. You know, I thought Jalen Brown would still be an all-star archa-chel, but I didn't think that they would be playing collectively as a team playing this, this grade of basketball that they've been playing. They really surprised me.
Starting point is 00:04:58 and I think they they got a chance, bro. They got a chance. They got a shot. They got a shot. Joe, the Cavaliers won 10 of their last 11, including five straight.
Starting point is 00:05:12 They're 34 and 21 now. What are you thinking, Joe, the calves back? You know, they made the trade for James Hardin. You got Hardin. You got Donovan Mitchell. You pair him with Evan Mobley and what's the big kid?
Starting point is 00:05:27 With the fro? Jared. Jared Allen. You know, you got Merrill coming off, shooting the ball really, really well. You like the calves? Are the calves in play here, Joe? No, I love it. Uncle Cho.
Starting point is 00:05:42 I love James Harden kind of orchestrating everything because he's going to make sure Donovan get off. So Donovan going to give you 30, 35 a night. I'm talking about when we get to the playoffs. He's going to be able to orchestrate. He's going to be able to control the games, control the series. And the beneficiaries will be the Evan Mowgli's, the Jared Allen's,
Starting point is 00:06:03 because he's a willing passer, Uncle Ocho, and he made guys around them better. You put him in the pick and roll with any of those two dudes. I mean, you're bound to get something good. And then not on top of that, you know, James wants to continue playing. He wants a new contract. So you're going to get the best out of him this second half of the season. You're going to get the best James Hardin you can possibly get. So I put the calves up there as well, man.
Starting point is 00:06:26 They've been playing great basketball. since he's been acquired to the team. I'm talking about it. He's been doing what he's always done, making big shots, getting guys involved, and, you know, just being James Harden. So I think it's not going to, when you get to the playoffs,
Starting point is 00:06:42 it's not going to be based on him to have these huge performance nights. Now, here, he'll, you know, he's going to win you a couple games in a playoff series, if not a series. But would all those dudes surround him? Cleveland's going to be something to reckon with, Bill.
Starting point is 00:06:56 And I like the fact. Joe, you have a Donovan Mitchell. And because Kobe said that James Harden's style, one guy dominating the ball is just it's possible, it's impossible to win like that the whole season. And I think with him, and you have Donovan Mitchell,
Starting point is 00:07:14 you have another option. We know Donovan can go crazy in the playoffs. We've seen it. He can go haywire. But if the thing is with James, if he can just be consistent, because we've seen him give you 51 game and then come back can give you nine the next game.
Starting point is 00:07:29 And that's what they can't have. But if this kid, Merrill, keep shooting like he shot, he got to start out tonight, seven or seven from the three and nine or nine from the floor, he keep playing like that. And with Donovan Mitchell, like you said, Donovan's going to give you somewhere between 28 and 32 on a nightly basis.
Starting point is 00:07:45 You got the two rim protectors. They're going to make it very hard inside. And you get hard and doing what he does. Yeah, they got a good chance. Them big has got to be. they got to be consistent too on, you know, Jared Allen and Evan Mobley. When they get in the playoffs,
Starting point is 00:08:03 they got to be dominant, man. They really got to be dominant because the deficiencies that you have in guarding the basketball out on the perimeter, they got to be able to cover for some of that. I think they can. I mean, we saw Jared Allen the other night, good 40 and 16 against Portland.
Starting point is 00:08:19 Yeah. You know, Evan Mobley was a defensive player of the year so we know he can protect and can defend. Jared Allen, look, you might dunk on him, but he's going to get you a a couple of times now. He's going to block your shot. Yeah. As a shot blocker, that's kind of known. You know, you're going to get, you're going to get a lot of people. That's just part of it. Matumbo got flushed on the bus, but he got eight, nothing to the house of Batumbo. I'm Dylan Playfair. And I'm Tyler Smith. We're putting loneliness in the penalty box by talking
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Starting point is 00:10:18 Sign up for a free trial at audible.com. Kevin Durant spoke with Akeem Elijah won about how much longer he wanted to play. Somebody asked me if I could play five more years. I'm like, damn, that's a long time, man. Five more years? I'm 37. That play that long and kept his mental stamina. and physical stamina to come in every day and want to get better.
Starting point is 00:10:43 I mean, you can't beat that. It's inspiring. You got to respect that. Joe Anocho, how much longer do you think KD plays before he hangs it up? Hey, Joe Anuck, I think he can play another five if you want to, even at 37, you know, depending on the supporting cast around him, he don't got to have the ball in his hand. He can play off the ball, you know. I mean, he doesn't have to, what's the word I'm looking for?
Starting point is 00:11:09 he doesn't have the pressure of having to lead a team depending on the situation he's in. He got enough young bulls around him over there in Houston. We could last, he could last another five. Yeah. So he don't have to take, he don't have to take so much of a beat.
Starting point is 00:11:25 His game is not feeling like that. LeBron game, I mean, for LeBron to play that long to dominate and finishing at the rim and finishing at the rim and falling on the floor, that's not Kevin Durant's game. Kevin Iran is a mid-range.
Starting point is 00:11:39 You can shoot the three. He's looking at one, two, three, one, two dribbles and pull up. So he's not physically, I mean, obviously you're out there every night. You play in 35, 37 minutes a night is demanding. But he's not playing the style of basketball that say, and he doesn't have to have the ball. He's not initiating the offense. So that's what, and my thing is I think, you know, he can play another five years.
Starting point is 00:12:04 The question is, I mean, playing five years is one thing. Are you in championship contention? in those five years. And I think with, I may be in Houston and with that team they got, I still think they need a point guard. It had been great if Van Fleet
Starting point is 00:12:18 could have stayed healthy. But I love Shingoon. I love Thompson. Yeah. Katie, obviously. So, I don't think, I don't,
Starting point is 00:12:28 I don't think they can come out of the West. As currently. You don't think they can come out of the West? I don't believe, I don't believe, I don't believe they can be, I don't believe they can be, OKC, I don't believe they can be Denver.
Starting point is 00:12:45 I don't. Man, listen, with Katie's body type, okay, Ocho, I think I definitely think he can play another five years. They call him, what they call them, the Slim Reaper. Yeah, I think he can definitely play another five years because his shooting is still going to always be a premium. You know what I mean? Look, in today's game, you can shoot that rock.
Starting point is 00:13:05 You can play, bro. And with him being 6, 10, 6, 6, 11, 7 foot, it's hard to guard that anyway. Yeah. You know, that's going to be tough. Hey, he's shooting from damn to. He's shooting from damn to nine foot. Hey, hey, we call it that tall man. He ain't but a couple guys got that tall man jump shot. That's a Kevin Garnett, Rashid Wallace.
Starting point is 00:13:26 Ocho. Haiti. Huh? Ocho. But, uh, I think they got, I think they got a chance, but I think they, you know, they still tweaking some things because, I mean, Thompson, uh, I think he's, I think he's pretty good. But yeah, when the playoff comes and it slows down, him playing the one the entire time, that probably will bring some problems.
Starting point is 00:13:50 But that's why I think the West's going to be a dog fight. Like the first round to the second round all way up to the Western Conference finals, man, they're going to beat each other up by the time. Who will make it to them? But if you think about it, Joe, look at the Nuggets. Once they get back healthy with Peyton Watson playing the way he's playing, with Jamal Murray, Yokish is Yolkich. Ain't nobody stopping him.
Starting point is 00:14:12 Just go ahead and chalk it up. Okay, you'll get your 25 to 30 and your 12 to 15 rebounds and your 12 to 15 assists. He's going to get that. Now, you get playoff Jamal Murray, who's going to give you 25. And then you get Aaron Gordon. You never know which Aaron Gordon. He won him two games last year against OKC.
Starting point is 00:14:35 And what Watson, Mr. Payton, Watson. Yeah. Yeah, I think he's like a wild car for the walk because he doesn't kind of sprouted this year. And he's been bawling Uncle Ocho. So, you know, for him to gain their confidence when, yeah, when they get fully healthy, the thing is with Gordon, you don't know. I mean, y'all know, man, them hamstring they're lingo, bro. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:00 He's an athlete. He's not just no standstill shooter. You know what I mean? So it plays a part to his game. But it's going to be tough coming out there, where's, bro. Ocho, you got yours? What's up? Huh?
Starting point is 00:15:17 That's all right, man. I like that. Mine up still. Show some tea. Man, they got the great beer, that thing. They got the soul patch, Joe. They got my neck. Well, they get at you right.
Starting point is 00:15:28 Look. Oh, what you know about the soul patch? Man, they got your boy good, man. My brother said, I like that. So I'm gonna see it in one. Yeah. That's what's up. Ocho, you get you one?
Starting point is 00:15:45 Yeah, I got one. I got my little soccer jersey on it on, Joe. That's what's up, man. Hey, whoever, I'm not sure who exactly who drew it, but when they drew it, they were very detail and meticulous on exactly the things that I, you know, I mean, my features and what I, what I always wear. It's pretty dope. Hey, hey, the other guy that got your boy hands.
Starting point is 00:16:09 Oh, yeah, they ain't miss on them, boy. Oh, man, they got the gray, they got the gray and everything, man. I said, well, damn. I told my shoulder to my daughter. I said, that looked like, I said, that looked like me. She told me she got laughing about it. Yeah. But I do.
Starting point is 00:16:25 I think Kevin Durant, I mean, I think Kevin Durant, I mean, I think Kevin Durant, he definitely can play five more years. I think a blessing in the disguise was, is that he got hurt and missed that time, Joe. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, you know, when he left Golden State,
Starting point is 00:16:44 he took a whole year off. Yeah. And then he got hurt. He got hurt. Was it in Phoenix? He got hurt? You think he missed like 20 games and that helps in the long run. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:57 Yeah. KD. has shown no falloff. He's averaging 25.9. So he's averaging 26 points a game, five rebounds a game, four assists a game. And he's efficient. What is he shooting from the field? Probably 53 and 44%.
Starting point is 00:17:13 Yeah, yeah. Like, that's a premium, bro. I'm Dylan Playfair. And I'm Tyler Smith. We're putting loneliness in the penalty box by talking to some of our favorite athletes about the importance of friendship. This is bromance.
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Starting point is 00:17:51 During this season of the Two Guys Five Rings podcast, in the lead-up to the Milan-Cortina-26 Winter Olympic Games, we've been joined by some of our friends. Hi, Bowen, hi, Elmo. Hey, Matt, hey, Bowen. Hi, Cookie. Hi. Now, the Winter Olympic Games are underway, and we are in Italy to give you experiences from our hearts to your ears. Listen to Two Guys Five Rings on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. And the winner of the IHeart Podcast Award is,
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Starting point is 00:18:50 Sign up for a free trial at audible.com. That boy, nice. Former Eagles O.C. Kevin Petula will be heading to Miami to join the Dolphins as their team's passing game coordinator. Petula spent five seasons with the Eagles, four as passing game coordinator and was promoted to officer coordinator in 2025. Ocho, your guppy's hired Petula as the passing game coordinator. Eagles couldn't throw the ball in 10 yard. They couldn't even get AJ the ball. So what are he going to do for them?
Starting point is 00:19:23 I don't know. I don't know what he's going to do. He's a passing game coordinator. I couldn't tell. He's not the officer of the coordinator, therefore it's not going to be his offense. Who the hell we have at quarterback? They're what I'm going to say.
Starting point is 00:19:36 Who the hell we have at quarterback? I don't care nothing about but Toulot being the passing game coordinator. Who is going to be the quarterback going forward so we can compete in the AFC East? That's all I want to know. Compete with who in the AFCs? The bills.
Starting point is 00:19:54 What you mean? Hold on. You think the guppies are going to compete with the bills and the Patriots. Why are you being? I'm just asking, I'm just, you know, for clarification.
Starting point is 00:20:05 I'm just going to, we need it, we need a quarterback to compete in the ASEs. The only way y'all can compete in the AFCs. The Drake mate and Josh Allen. A 20, a 23-year-old Dan Marino. That's the only way y'all compete.
Starting point is 00:20:19 See, that's real disrespect. You know the guppies ain't doing. That's real disrespectful. Y'all don't let the Patriots retooling. Yeah, well, we, hey, we re-tooling right now. We retooling. Well, give us a bunch of,
Starting point is 00:20:33 you know what's a monkey wrench. Y'all ain't got a whole lot in your toolbox. You're talking about y'all retooling. Hey, listen, you're right by that. You're right by that. But we got to start somewhere. And what we need to start at is the goddamn quarterback position. We need to answer that question before we can do anything else.
Starting point is 00:20:49 So what they're going to do? White, white, two, uh, contract away? Oh, they're doing. Two are going to trade. They tried to get up off to them. Yeah, he's trying to, they're going to take a 99. What something, me and cap hit? They don't have to be a cap hit.
Starting point is 00:21:02 They're not, they're not tripping. That must be, that must be, that must be real nice, like you said, you take a hundred million dollar cap here and talking about we ain't tripping. They're not. They're not. I mean, look, you just write that off. That's bad.
Starting point is 00:21:17 That's a tax. That's a tax break. Yeah. Yeah. That's crazy, man. Ah, but, uh. That's crazy. Hey, hey, eh, don't, don't, don't, don't, I'm telling you.
Starting point is 00:21:31 Now, depending on who we get at the quarterback position, I'm going to tell you who the dark horse is coming up this season, man. It might be the dolphins. Nah. Yeah, because y'all, like, you laugh, y'all laughed at me when I said it was going to be the bears and the parents and look what happened. Like you told me, broke clock right twice a day. So you was right twice last year. But we ain't going to talk about your bungles.
Starting point is 00:21:56 My who? Yeah. Oh, wait a minute. Watch what we do in the offseason, though. Watch what we do in the draft. Watch what we get on the defensive side of the ball. Watch. Oh, y'all want Max Crosby or Jeffrey Simmons, huh?
Starting point is 00:22:10 Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. I mean, I would love, hey, listen, listen, I would love that. I would love if, you know, what are you talking about? In a perfect world, we get Jeffrey Simmons. Who going to the Cowboys? Crossby. We'll get the Raiders George Piggins.
Starting point is 00:22:29 We might be able to do some, Ojo. Okay. I mean, that's an even swap. Because everybody, Cowboys fans, I love Cowboys fans. I love y'all. I love y'all. But I'm just saying you guys are so hung up on having George Piggins stay when you have so many questions that need answers defensively.
Starting point is 00:22:47 You know? Yeah. I would, I would, I would, Pickens to the Raiders, getting Mac Crosby, understand what you can get for Max, making that defense that much better, solidifying one position in having an impact player and continue on putting pieces around him so you can compete. Instead of having C.D. Lamb and George Pickens
Starting point is 00:23:11 and an all-world offense that can score 41 points, but the other team going to score 45. Sound like somebody else team, you know how, Ocho. You hear me? You hear me? Joe, Joe, it sounds like another team that he should be very familiar with. They got two superstar wire receivers, a superstar quarterback, but can't stop nobody. You hear me?
Starting point is 00:23:35 I'm saying, but he can't wait to break up lamb and pickings, but you go over to the bang, oh, man, he gets that day. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. This is a different situation. How? They both came in to Cincinnati together. George Pickens was coming from the Steelers. So it's a little different.
Starting point is 00:23:57 Listen, I just want Young Bull to get what he deserves. I know he's not able to get with Joe. Didn't he? They both went, they came from the same team. No, I'm saying. I think he, no, but didn't he come in with Joe? Joe was the first round pick, T with the second round pick. I don't think T and Chase came in together.
Starting point is 00:24:18 I didn't say. they came in together. I said they came to the same team. Okay. Not like he came from somewhere else. That's all I'm saying. Oh, but still, but you want to keep you together. So y'all, you're not going to listen. I'm listening to what you said. I'm saying you said you want, you want to keep, you want to keep tea. The, the Cowboys need help on on the defense. Y'all need help on defense. Right. We going to be all right. Because I told you what you go. I talked, I talked to ownership. I talked to ownership. I already
Starting point is 00:24:48 know what we're going to do in the draft. If he's available, if he's available, if he's available and we're gonna get we gonna get this everything defense this year everything y'all going for big boy from miami uh you're about bane yeah i don't think he gonna be there he he definitely he definitely ain't gonna be there y'all picking him pretty high he might be there it's not like y'all didn't picking in the 20s y'all pick him really high y'all in the top 10 or the top 12 for sure we we're picking team yeah exactly so yeah there's the chance he'll be there. Hey, none of them, none of them going to be there. Caleb Downs, Bain ain't going to be there. They're gone.
Starting point is 00:25:24 Y'all need more than that. I know. I'm just saying, what about your team? Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. What about your team? My team beat your team. We all went home at the same time. We played the LFC championship. We all went home at the same. We missed out of quarterback. We was a quarterback away, but I'd have been more disappointed had we had the quarterback get to the Super Bowl and got beat. So it worked down how to That's fine. I just try to figure out how Kevin Petula
Starting point is 00:25:56 get another job and ain't nobody even mentioned Byron Leftwich. You know how. Right. You know how. We've had this conversation many of times. What Byron Leavis need to do? He ain't slapped nobody.
Starting point is 00:26:18 Ocho, there's a clip going around that the staff wants us to watch. Let's take a listen to this, Ocho, enjoy and let's know what you think. I do have one complaint about PG in the room. Let's go. He got fined a lot. Big thing in the room where if you pass gas.
Starting point is 00:26:34 I mean, this is a notorious thing. And it's like, it was, I mean, he spent a lot of money on that room, just blowing air. I have heard less of this later in your career. Did you change anything about your diet over the years? I did. I did. Not to Bo, like how Bo lost. I want to get like how Bow is.
Starting point is 00:26:51 Like, look different. Yeah, man. It was, it had to change if I wanted to stay playing. Because you can't just, you get away with it as a young guy. But, you know, later on me. Does this affect the smell as well? It do. It really do, man.
Starting point is 00:27:04 It depends, though, because some smoothies that you drink can get you $500 farts. What? I mean, you're in the room all day with $12 or whatever it is. You've learned about the fines. Right. Unless that's expensive gas, B.J. It's some expensive gas. The price of gas is going up.
Starting point is 00:27:24 Thank you. That wouldn't happen. That didn't happen in the tight-in room. That didn't happen in the office. No, sir. Absolutely. Now, you're crazy? Yeah. You don't play that on?
Starting point is 00:27:35 Absolutely not. Now, dude, just sitting there, paying the gas, Ocho. Nass dad, get your last and go to the bathroom. Yeah, Joe, I ain't never had no problem like that, Joe. Yeah, no, I'm saying, I ain't never dealt with it neither, but I can imagine what that's like. Like, come on, bro.
Starting point is 00:27:50 Yeah, somebody, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, we never had that in the receiver room. No, no, that wasn't happening. Maybe the lineman, probably the lineman. Lime ain't you all kind of stuff. Them nasty rascal, yeah. Yeah, they come straight out the field and go fix the plate. Oh, no.
Starting point is 00:28:06 You always got to beat the office of lima to food. You got to. Hey, hey, but you heard what he said. He said, man, look, he had to switch up his diet because when you get older, you can't eat them zoosos and wang wham you was eating at 23 and 24 years old thinking you're going to go out here competing, bro. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:25 It just ain't going to happen that way. Oh, but hold on. Wait a minute. Oh, Joe, you remember how to chat? was getting on me with that saying oh you your girl can't pass gas why do I mean this natural passing gas is natural no that's different I got on I got on to you about that too how they different I mean mean your girl your girl she she that's not passing gas you women poop they still stay hold on so y'all cool with you
Starting point is 00:28:51 hell down Joe you know we from the side Joe we don't get out Joe you Joe your girl can't Who around you? Oh Joe. Thank you, Joe. Thank you, Joe. Come on. Hey, y'all tripping, man. Oh, Joe.
Starting point is 00:29:04 That's natural. That's something natural. Oh, Joe. Hey, Joe and Uncle, you can't make your woman uncomfortable. She can't, she can't, uh. Get up and go to the bathroom. That's just, that's respect. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:29:13 Oh, here y'all go with it. Oh, yeah. That's respect off dump. I ain't never had to tell no girl I've ever dated. Look, man, you don't need to be doing that. Thank you. Thank you. Nah, hey, listen.
Starting point is 00:29:24 If you got to go, why do you want your woman's stomach her because she got a hole in. She ain't got a whole in. Go to the bathroom. You, man. Yeah. I got seven, I got seven to have bathroom.
Starting point is 00:29:32 Find one. Blow it up. You could be like Professor Clark. You, hey, if my club daddy was at the table. I called your name if your name. Have that it. But you're not going to do that around me.
Starting point is 00:29:45 Hey, hey, you know what? I honestly, like all jokes is sad, I can't believe y'all, man. I can't believe y'all. Y'all would have a woman.
Starting point is 00:29:52 Hold her stomach. Make her stomach hurt simply because she's scared to put around y'all. Joe, how many bathrooms? You got about seven, eight bathrooms, right, Joe? And what if you're in the car driving? What if you're in the car driving somewhere? And she, you know, I'll stop at the gas station.
Starting point is 00:30:11 And, you know, women are a lot more strategic when it comes to, like, food and eating them. They already know. Oh, this is going to cause my stomach. Yeah, I can't, yeah, I can't eat this because they're going to have my stomach to it. Yeah, thank you. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:30:26 I've been waiting this is what I've been waiting for. Y'all, y'all two, y'all two the only two. I think it's disrespectful. Man, please. I think it's disrespectful to tell her, listen, if you're around me, if we're together, we're out in the car or whatever we're doing, you cannot pass gas around me. I ain't never, thank you, Joe. Thank you, thank you, Joe.
Starting point is 00:30:48 You ain't never had to say nothing? I ain't never had to tell no girl that Ocho. That's just common courtesy. Thank you. There ain't no common courtesy, girl, if you got the poop, poop. I don't care about that. Look, it better be silent and not deadly, but you think you're just gonna be,
Starting point is 00:31:03 you know what I mean? Just around me, just passing gander. Come on, bro. Thank you, Joe. Thank you. All that passing again. Oh, Joe, Joe, come on. Joe, Joe, come on.
Starting point is 00:31:13 Joe, Joe, on my mama resting P, Joe, I don't care about that. That's fine. Girl, if you got to go, let it out. And in one of them bathrooms. What that thing smell like? But it smell like. And don't go out. The master bathroom is mine.
Starting point is 00:31:28 That's my throne. You see, you see him? He also, Unks say she can't take a number two in his bathroom. Listen, if you deal with me, I like the whole. Some of the better conversations when you're in a relationship, Joe,
Starting point is 00:31:42 they're hell when a woman is using the bathroom. Oh, I, oh, listen, listen, listen. Women are pretty discreet with that. Thank you, fellas. They're not just going to be, I'm saying, Ocho, come on now. I don't know who this man. Hey, Joe, you ain't never,
Starting point is 00:31:56 Joe, you ain't never had no conversation with the girl when she used in the bathroom. Man, Ocho, I'm going to be honest, I have. And it wasn't like, it wasn't like, you know, it was because it was something needed to be, some had to be talked about. But I wasn't just going in there like, you know what I mean. No, I didn't say. No, I have not. I have not.
Starting point is 00:32:14 I put that on Mary Porter and my kids. I am not talking to you while you in the bathroom. Whatever you want to discuss, it was a, hey, ain't nothing can get done before you get out of there. So we good. Joe, I told Ocho, I stopped talking to a girl because she did that. Did what? She putted around you? She was in the bathroom.
Starting point is 00:32:34 She went and used the bathroom. She had to pee. She got back to the door, step foot, and passed gas. Hey, aunt. That's romantic, um. You show it was the right game. I tell you what I did. I never called again and I changed my number.
Starting point is 00:32:56 Uncle, you pet it, man. You're nothing to do that. You're not. No, I don't play like that. I don't, I don't. That's human nature. It is. But maybe it's just because the way I was raised up,
Starting point is 00:33:06 I was raised around my grandmother and I'm very respectful of people like that. I don't do that. Yeah. Hey, when I go to the band, they don't play that. Any woman that's ever dealt with me, when I go to the bathroom to pee, I cut the ward on. I don't, I don't want to hear you pee.
Starting point is 00:33:22 I don't want to hear myself. I don't even want to hear myself pee. I don't even want to hear my selfie. Hey, Uncle, you got, Hey, Joe, Uncle's alive, but he ain't living. Well, I ain't gonna live.
Starting point is 00:33:33 Ain't nobody for me dropping no bombs, no stinging low around me, no. Okay. Hey, look, them stinking low, I'm with, I'm with Uncle on that.
Starting point is 00:33:43 I ain't, and you have to, hey, I get ready to go on my throne and you don't smash the pumpkin in the toilet. Oh, hell no. Hey,
Starting point is 00:33:51 okay. Okay. Okay. Hey, Joe. Hey, hey, you should hurt unc. Are you heard unc dog tonight? he's talking about when you're in the shower
Starting point is 00:33:59 he will get out the shower track all the water on the flow just to go pee in the goddamn drain right there in front of the shower. I pee before I get in the shower. That's why I don't have my water because see my kidney's bad. You know, my bladder wheat. So I can't use too hard water because it makes me go to
Starting point is 00:34:15 the bathroom. So I got, you know, the water is somewhat lukewarm. No, I don't do that. I don't do that. Yeah, normally normally when that water touch your hands or touch your you pretty much got to go. I ain't going to lie. I'm going to let it ride in the shower.
Starting point is 00:34:30 See, thank you. Thank you. Thank you. I let it ride in the shower. I ain't going to lie. It's going down the drain. It ain't like I'm wheezing around the whole day. I'm straight in the drain.
Starting point is 00:34:41 And all I told you, all I know is that the women that I've dealt with, they're very respectful. And I appreciate that. I appreciate that. By the same thing, I don't go around them. I don't go around them. women can't tell me.
Starting point is 00:34:56 As a matter of fact, I don't, I don't, oh, Joe, when I, I'll be like, I don't burp around no woman. I don't go to no bathroom around no woman. Like I said, I've gone back to Fox. I've gone to, I've gone, I've gone somewhere. No, I send them on a, hey, you know what I need? Can you go to the store and get something for me?
Starting point is 00:35:14 Like, what you need? Just to use the bathroom? Yes. Hey, you don't, you do it. You doing too much. Yes. And plus the thing, you know, you know, now, now, if you really want me to get a,
Starting point is 00:35:28 I'm saying, I hate when they don't flush the toilet, they pee and got paper, flush it. Hold on, you saying they lead a pee in the car. Oh, I forgot. Come on. How you forget? You, all you got, hey, all you do, right on the top. Man, look. And you know what I don't like, Joe?
Starting point is 00:35:50 You know what I can be honest? You know what I don't like is toilet tissue, right? I'm confused on why the toilet tissue is always in the garbage. can wrapped up curled up. You know what I'm talking about? They probably got the feminine product in their, Ocho. You can't flush that. Oh, that's what it is.
Starting point is 00:36:11 Okay. Oh, that's a little red. Okay. Okay. You said that's a little one. The little red, a little red. Okay. I got it. I got it. I got it. Oh, no, man. You look, I think this is a generational thing, Joe. I really do. And I also think
Starting point is 00:36:27 it's a southern thing. because these is on y'all have that it mm-mm I'm used to say the baby baby baby it's just the way
Starting point is 00:36:45 a mayor and barney raised us that's just hey you you need you need we got we got a oh Joe but we got a break we got to break you out of this
Starting point is 00:36:58 we got to break you out of this no no no no yeah yeah oh Joe because look you got a you got a better a chance of me eating a cookie from the back. What kind of cooking? Being able to be able to pass gas around me.
Starting point is 00:37:12 Hey, hey, hey, oh. That never happened. Hey, Joe. Hey, Joe, you see how you talking, right? Yeah. I'm, I'm gonna get me, we, I'm gonna get him. I'm gonna get him. I'm gonna have him sucking all to all the total.
Starting point is 00:37:24 No, no, not. No, no. You see Joe. Yeah. Yeah. He can ease into nothing. Hey, he goes straight to, he goes, Straight over the time.
Starting point is 00:37:36 Hey, Joe, we, we over 30 years old. Ease into what? We didn't ease into nothing. First of all, I'm at the age that old people at. You know, I'm at that age. Okay. It's about that. It's about that time, huh?
Starting point is 00:37:54 If you're pushing 60, I mean, listen, we, we're on top of the hill. We're on the way down the hill. It's time for us to start doing things we've never done these folk. No, I'm good. Yeah. I know you not good. Nah. Hey, I want you to go get your extra shower curtain from Target to Walmart.
Starting point is 00:38:12 I don't think. I want you. I don't know, I think all mine have like either got the tub and the shower. You know, I don't have a curtain. Man, I hated that. I remember the first time I got an apartment and, man, I couldn't take no shower. The curtain stick it to me. I mean, I'm like, I say, God.
Starting point is 00:38:33 Joe, man, I try to take a shower. It's all over my God. It's all stuff to my chest. Hey, man. You got, you got the shower curtain in the tub. You got to put the shower curtain on outside of the tub. I put the shower curtain outside the tub and stepped out like to broke my neck. Feet up in the air.
Starting point is 00:38:52 Because it's wet. Hey. Hell no. Man. Nah, man, I just, like I said, hey. Man, look, I just, like I said, I have some experience. I think the thing, Joe, I was like, when you grow up washing in a tub, foot tub,
Starting point is 00:39:11 what number two, 10 tub? I don't know what y'all call it. Y'all call the watchtub or 10 tub, Joe. You call them a tub. So you had a foot tub, which is a little round, and then you have a number two, you had a number two 10 tub, which was the bigger, the bigger ones. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:25 So, you know, when you take a shot, you know, like, man, I just like, Lord, I don't really a whole lot of life, but just let me have some running water and some air condition. And I'm good. Yeah. I don't care what the house looked like, but I just want to run in water
Starting point is 00:39:39 and I want an air condition. Mm. So now I got that. And, hey, plus the thing, I think the thing is, Ocho, like, you got to realize I had to go to the woods. So I'd be way over there. Spanky be way over there.
Starting point is 00:39:55 We couldn't pass no gas in that. What? Man, Papa or Grady with a kid, boy. Hey, that's a different time, Ocho. I know. Listen, he, he, he, he, He, he, he, he's still living like he in the 40s and 50s, man, Joe.
Starting point is 00:40:11 I'm saying, oh, Joe, I'm saying, you just walk around the house, just passing gas, you just don't. Me? Yeah. I mean, I mean, no. I see, Joe, I don't do it like that. It's not like that. I'm just saying in general, like, if I got to go, it's okay. If you date, if you, if you, if we together and you date me, man, you got to go to the bathroom.
Starting point is 00:40:30 Listen, whatever you got to do. I got baby wipes in there. Make sure, you know, you do us necessary. So it ain't, I don't want no crumbs. I want no turtle heads. Got to have that baby, well, yeah. Yeah, you got, yeah, get yourself together. Man, I ain't got no problem with none of that, Joe.
Starting point is 00:40:44 If you got to, I love having, Joe, I swear for God, the best conversations, those deep conversations that most of the time women like to have that sometimes it make you uncomfortable to have are had when they're using the restroom. When I'm using the restroom, I have my best conversations like that, Joe. Yeah. Hey. That maybe it's me. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:41:05 I just say, hey. Shannon, can you give me some toilet paper? Keep the door closed. I'm going to sit it outside the door. Once I go back to where I am, you can open the door and grab it. Don't you open that door before I leave? Ocho.
Starting point is 00:41:20 Man, come on. Ocho, I don't even walk around. I don't walk around my house without a shirt on. I don't walk around in front of the way. No. No. What's the point of having all the muscles and having your shirt on in the house?
Starting point is 00:41:32 You have to understand, Ocho. I grew up with my aunts and I grew up with my grandmother. You grew up, you grown that. It's embedded. Ask any women that dealt with me, have they seen Shannon walk around without a shirt on. I don't, I have one,
Starting point is 00:41:48 I have, hey, we had to have them, like I said, we were boys and, you know, after we got a certain age, my grandma was like, boy, come up.
Starting point is 00:41:56 Okay. Nah, man. Hey, I'm, I'm, I'm like, I'm like, yeah,
Starting point is 00:42:04 I'll put you in the guest house. You. Why? You ain't, to be pooting up in my house and I I'm not I'm man no I'm healthy no no I can't can't believe that man you don't you don't take your shirt off you wear you wear you wear your socks in the house and I mean she got to close the dough and she can't ask for toilet tissue I mean like come on you got it's too many rules huh ain't no rules too many too many
Starting point is 00:42:32 rules oh Joe Gene critic Jean Simmons you know Jean Simmons from kiss uh He criticized the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame for inducting rap artists. The 75-year-old Kiss bassist has some choice words about hip-hop and its place in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. It's not my music. I don't come from the ghetto. It doesn't speak my language. I said in print many times, hip-hop does not belong in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame,
Starting point is 00:42:59 nor does opera symphony orchestras. It's called the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Hmm. Damn. There are a lot of stuff. So you think your music speak to everybody? Because I mean, listening to talk, he thinks his music speaks to everybody. I don't know if there's any music that speaks to everybody, but that's the whole point.
Starting point is 00:43:21 Yeah. It's almost saying like, well, kicker and a punter shouldn't be in the Hall of Fame. Do they not play in the NFL? Right. It's still music in general. Yeah, I mean, that's unfortunate that he does feel that way. I would think someone like Mr. Simmons would understand when certain artists, regardless of genre of music, reach a certain level of success and a catalog and their resume speaks volumes to reach the pinnacle of being inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, it would be respected regardless of whether it's rock and roll or not, whether it's hip hop, whether it's country, whatever it may be. and the fact that he feels that way is it,
Starting point is 00:44:05 I mean, shit, it kind of sucks a little bit. Yeah. Yeah. Kind of sucks, but. Well, if they hadn't, if they hadn't stole everything that we created, we have, but, you know, that's not,
Starting point is 00:44:15 we'll have a conversation about that another date and time. But I guess he forgot about that. Well, you need to be a shame. He's talking about he's not from the ghetto. So in other words, also, half the people that listen to country
Starting point is 00:44:29 ain't from the damn country. Yeah, That is true. That, that, that's, country don't speak to everybody. And it's okay. Right. I mean, I don't think he, I mean, I, I, you know,
Starting point is 00:44:46 hopefully I live to get 75. But I think, I mean, people say some of the dumbest things. Bro, you think, you think your music speaks to everybody. You think country or whatever the opera or whatever the case may be. music every genre of music doesn't speak to everybody but just because that's it doesn't speak to you that doesn't mean it's not worthy for being in a place beside you right right right a lot of people i oh cho a lot of white people listen to hip hop and rap day from no damn ghetto facts only ghetto they know about what they see on tv or what they read about
Starting point is 00:45:36 Yeah. Hey, what made him say this? What hip-hop artist was inducted into the rock and roll hall of fame, or was this just a generic question he was asked? He was asked. I mean, I would have to, hold on. Twitter was quick to point out as wild white artists are directly influenced by black musicians and still manage to be racist.
Starting point is 00:46:02 Gene Simmons took their entire image from Patty LaBelle rock group LaBelle. Kist manager saw LaBelle's costume and asked the designer to create something similar. copy cat ass I mean you go back and look at little Richard go back and look at all those guys that was doing it before Elvis Presley right but y'all don't really want y'all really want to have these conversations
Starting point is 00:46:29 there's a deep long and rich history of who did it first I'm not going to make it that kind of show but and stole it and pretend like y'all came up with it black people created rock and rock and role.
Starting point is 00:46:46 Just FYI. Just to put that, I just want to put that out there. Yeah. Well, we're probably giving them too much legs anyway, but anyway, I just had to get down on my chair. Oh, Joe and Joe, it's time to play a fade presented by prize picks. Power play ahead of tomorrow's Lakers' MAV's game. DeAndre Aiton to have at least 13 points.
Starting point is 00:47:20 Joe, what you're thinking? Who they play on? Oh, the MAV. Uh, 13. He's going to be below 13 or he's going to be below 13 or above? They playing in Dallas or L.A.? I think they're playing in Dallas. Luca, AR and Brun playing?
Starting point is 00:47:43 Ron going to play. I think Luca is going to be out. Yeah, I got him. Yeah, he'll get 13. If Luca going to be out, he'll get 13. No, then they're in L.A. Oh, yeah, he definitely going to get 13. Damn.
Starting point is 00:48:01 If I'd know that, I could have went to the Clippers game Friday in LA. Man, you ain't trying, you ain't trying to do that. Okay, Joe. Oh, you was going to do that? No. Hey, hey, Joe, every time I ask on, let's go to a game. He don't, you know, now he was, oh, boy, I tell you, boy. This is the first time I had an opportunity.
Starting point is 00:48:28 This is the first week I had an opportunity to just sit down. I ain't had to go nowhere. I just had. I mean, I've been traveling. I mean, I was just like, this is the problem. Right. I've been traveling too. What's you saying?
Starting point is 00:48:41 I don't. What is it that you don't get about that? Well, you just said, you just said you was getting ready to go to the game, but you didn't hit me up and say, hey, you want to go to the game. I'm thinking about going to X, Y, and Z. I said, I didn't know. I just said that in just, I'm not going to no game.
Starting point is 00:48:57 Now, if I was out, if I was out there, because the All-Star game is this weekend. Well, let's go to the All-Star game. No, you don't want to deal with that. I had an total note on our behalf. What was going to do? We're going to go to the game. You don't want to go?
Starting point is 00:49:18 It's too late now. I pass on our behalf. Well, damn, man. Joe, you want to go to the All-Star game? This weekend. Yeah, let's go. Yeah. My dog, Joe.
Starting point is 00:49:32 At least somebody want to hang with me. I'm just calling this bluff because I know he's just talking. Hey, no, Joe, we can go to the All-Star game. LeBron James will have at least eight assists. He'll have more than eight assists, sir? I got him having eight, yeah. Max Crispy, Max Crispy, Max Christie, at least seven rebounds and assists combined.
Starting point is 00:49:55 Rebounds and assists, he's back in L.A. He's going to be out there playing hard. I like Max Critch. I like his energy and effort. Rebounds and assists. It ain't for six, eight for seven. Three assists, four rebounds, that's it. It sound easy, don't it?
Starting point is 00:50:19 Well, if he can't get that, I don't know what's happening. Because you know it's going to be a lot of, the Lakers ain't like they marksmen. I'm saying he's starting, he's starting, right? Ain't he on? Yeah, I get, I get him that. I give him.
Starting point is 00:50:31 There you go. So we get, so we're saying Aiden. Eight and going to have at least 13 points. LeBron will have more than eight assists, and Max Crispy will have it. Max Christie will have at least seven rebounds and assists total. Yeah, I roll with it. I'm rolling with it.
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Starting point is 00:51:03 Hey, on the joke. What's that? A, chat. I got a joke. Oh, Lord. Oh. What we got, Joe? Joe, Uncle, you ready?
Starting point is 00:51:13 Come on. Hey, chat, y'all ready? You ready? Yeah. How does a cat like their steak cooked? It's got to be something with me and it. Medium.
Starting point is 00:51:38 Nope. Raw. Rare, yeah, yeah, rah. Yeah. I said a cat, not a cat. lion. Last I checked, a lion is a cat. It's a big cat. It's a feline. Y'all just roared. No. What is it? It's time to play our final segment of the evening. It's time for cute.
Starting point is 00:52:19 Hey, listen, I got, I got that one right. Hey, no, you're supposed to, it's rare, but you're supposed to sound like a cat. We did. No, you said raw. What do you talk about? You sound like a lion. Hey, that was, hey, that was funny. I like that one. I got, hey, I'm going to use them a kid. All right, give us our, uh, give us to what you call them. The graphics for Q&A. Ream.
Starting point is 00:52:51 Hey, Hey, I'm talking about some roar. I said, rar. Uh, temperina nowhere junior, Ocho,
Starting point is 00:52:57 you don't have to wait long. Super Bowls in Atlanta in 2028, so you get to go to Magic City. Uh-oh. Let's turn up. I'm a start saving. I'm gonna start saving now. Shook for offensive rookie of year.
Starting point is 00:53:10 Hey, big three. Hope y'all doing good. Oh, oh, your thoughts on how close my, Saints are playoffs. Iso don't get me started on my pelicans. I still think they'll ways.
Starting point is 00:53:22 I mean, look, if you win the division, I don't know if they're going to get more than one team out of that division. The Rams are going to be good again. The 49ers are going to be good again. The Saints will be good again. Do we believe the Detroit will be better? Do we think Green Bay will, Green Bay, Chicago? I mean, all things being equal,
Starting point is 00:53:42 you guys are probably like the 11th or 12th best team. That's being generous. I mean, all faiths being equal. Rams are better. Seahawks are better. Niners are better. Bears, Packers, that's five. Lions.
Starting point is 00:54:08 The Eagles. Do we think the Cowboys are better than the Saints? Yep. Okay. NFC South. Y'all in that division. So you got Carolina, which made it last year, Atlanta and Tampa. So with that being said, y'all probably like 10th, 11th or 12th.
Starting point is 00:54:39 I think Philly is better. I think Philly are better than the Saints. I think the Cowboys are better than the Saints. The Bears, Green Bay, and Detroit, the Rams, Seattle, and the 49ers. Y'all are the ways down. I'm sorry, shook for a rookie of the year. Woo, pig, Sue, Sue. Wait, Isso, tell me about our hogs, their potential this season.
Starting point is 00:55:04 Please, Iso. And my McFadden, greatest hog, good luck with the fame. People don't forget. People don't forgot. What you think about the pigs, Joe? Hey, hey, okay, Ocho, we really, we got a real shot. I know we led by two freshmen, you know, Daris Aikov, who would definitely be a top ten pick in this NBA's draft, Malik Thomas.
Starting point is 00:55:31 We got other guys surrounding guys, guys who've been in college for, you know, some time they're able to help out their veteran leadership. For me, as a Razorback and as a fan, I love when Billy Richmond, Jr. and Carter Knox, these are our wing guys. They forward. Their defensive, their defensive-minded, their energy, their effort, their activity, it helps a lot. When they're playing at the top of their game, Uncle Ocho flying around, blocking shots, playing, great defense. defense, we're almost impossible to beat.
Starting point is 00:56:04 We almost impossible to beat. So obviously, you know, we still got a little room left. You know, Marsh Madden is going to be coming up here soon, but I expect us to be making a lot of noise in the SEC, baby. Yes, sir. Oh, Cho, I don't think we come to, I don't know if we come down to the ACC and play against your hurricanes. Miami? No.
Starting point is 00:56:28 We might, we might come down there and see y'all. I don't know. I don't think y'all want to do that Joe and believe Thomas Dabney one Shea what happened to your eye Don't tell me you got You got caught by Zoe in the parking lot too
Starting point is 00:56:41 What's on my eye You got their red dot and what happened man I don't know I was sleep before I got on here That's what I mean I guess that's what it is I was sleep I don't know Which one? This one or this one?
Starting point is 00:56:57 No the other one You got like a little red spot in the corner Rick Love He got caught by Hill of Hands What happened That I was sleeping Brian Mateo's Same people who needed their own
Starting point is 00:57:16 Half-time show Also needed their own water fountain Just disappointed man That was a good one J.J. Carver If the NBA allowed fighting AD would be out of the league It didn't
Starting point is 00:57:33 It's It's messed up, man But it was different I mean No, they had real tough guys You go back and look at Kevin Willis You look at Oak
Starting point is 00:57:44 You look at Mason Man you look bad Xavier McDaniel Charles Smith Yeah I'm dude looking for a fight Yeah Bark man
Starting point is 00:57:52 Mahorn lamb beer Now they had They had real bumpers Yeah Yeah, they got guys who, hey, look, you know, they have guys, they bring in, they bring in just for that action. We need to go in there and cool that down right there, tighten them up. Yeah, Ocho, Ocho got it going. He out there popping it.
Starting point is 00:58:14 Yeah, all right, we got something for you. Go out of the middle if you want to. You won't go back down there. All did it go. Yeah. He did a good job and stopping Ocho from reminiscing about his high school basketball days. He was about to be reminisced about that Haitian arc in the car and how he was. Oh, man.
Starting point is 00:58:32 No, that's one thing about Ocho. Ocho, you know, hey, when somebody gonna have got the best of him in that situation, he just chalk up his losses and just move it along. Ain't nothing to fight about. Nothing to fight about. Tell them, Ocho, it's plenty of fish in the sea now. Oh, but one thing about that,
Starting point is 00:58:48 but I keep a fishing pole with me. Yeah. Yeah. Hey, uh, Joe, hey, um, Hey, Joe, I keep a fishing pole with me now. Yeah. Yes, sir. But I told you what about, hey,
Starting point is 00:59:00 Hey, Joe, my aunt, rest of so glad, he broke up with a guy. And my grandma loved a guy because he would go to church with my aunt, you know, he'd come pick her up, did things, buy things for him. My aunt broke up with him, you know, she did like, hey. And my grandma was like, ooh, I show love that boy. I don't know why you broke up with him. And my aunt said, Mama, they're plenty fishing to sea.
Starting point is 00:59:24 My granny dead pants say, yeah, but you might not catch him. Mmm Mm. Yeah. Boy. Why are you playing? Yeah. Hey, my girlfriend always had them.
Starting point is 00:59:37 People say, boy, you get you about, my grandpa, my grandma was always slick with it. Yeah. Yeah. Swollen red, on speaking facts, comminga fam, sure not taking all that food.
Starting point is 00:59:49 They kick on there, take it to them. Yeah, it's too much. I'm, also, I'm mindful of that. I'm like, man, All this food, like, no, I'm good. But look, if you got a bad report with the team, y'all already ain't seen it out of the eye,
Starting point is 01:00:05 man, go on get what y'all want. They're going to get it. Yeah, I'm telling you, that's what he told them. Go ahead, take what you want in now. No, I don't eat that, but I'm going to get on the pot of there anyway. I don't want nothing. Samuel LeGran 89, Ocho, understand, but he don't agree. Ocho understand, but he don't agree.
Starting point is 01:00:24 Man, you know how Ocho is, man. On what part? Oh, he probably talking about the food. Yeah. Fila 404 hockey isn't told to join a few good men. Why? Isn't that a double standard? But look, there are a lot of double standard in said sports.
Starting point is 01:00:45 But that's, you understand said sport, Ocho. Okay, hockey, y'all can fight, you know. Certain sports you can fight. I mean, you drop the gloves. You know what time it is. Yeah. Yeah. Baseball,
Starting point is 01:00:59 you drop your helmet. We know we've been in the bump. Nah. Baseball every so often, you'll get a batter charging the mouth. Yeah, absolutely. Hey, that's so exciting. Or, you know, you admire your home run for too long.
Starting point is 01:01:15 You better get your ass around that base. He's doing that 96 mile now with Daniel Rills. D.S. 3651. Ocho, I so love the show. Me and my wife's been here since day one. Ocho, you said you were getting a dog. Check your DM. Man, Ocho, gone too much.
Starting point is 01:01:32 He ain't getting no dog. Yeah, but I may have all white, everything in here, but dog will. No, sir. Swallow Red. I'm from Miami, but I can't claim the Guppies. I don't blame you. Teddy Hart, 2913, make an All-Star MVP override the 65 game rule to remain eligible for season of season.
Starting point is 01:01:59 awards, guys would actually try, guaranteed. Now, only a handful of guys gonna be eligible for it. Right. I mean, for the most part, guy ain't coming out of nowhere to win that award. Oh, the game is in LA. So normally when the game is in, like somebody on that team, which is Kauai, Luca, now obviously it's gonna be in Kauai's building.
Starting point is 01:02:20 You kinda try to push Kauai to get it. But the international, you look, they loaded. So that might be Luka time. Joe, now how y'all did it? If somebody, let's just say it was in Atlanta. Right, right. They would, they would, they would, you know, make sure you got your fair share of plays
Starting point is 01:02:36 to be able to make that happen. But, but, man, listen, with it being in L.A. Uncle Ocho, I think that boy, Luca, gonna be out there trying to show out. You already know it. You already know. I know it's in, I know it's in, I know it's in clip of building, but, shh.
Starting point is 01:02:55 Terry Buller said, oh, we need to try to, we need to try to get D-Law on the. show we'll get on that we'll have our people try to reach out we'll definitely try to get him on join beehive elf what's your all opinion on zire franklin and jeff t's situation on 520 the other day love watching you guys nightcap for life look i don't i don't happen i didn't really i don't see it what happened i didn't see it either i guess uh uh they were just i don't really know i just just saw that it seemed like it got really contentious um i don't really know what they was talking, I think Jeff was like, we're more famous, we're more known, make more money.
Starting point is 01:03:37 I really don't know. I just think it probably shouldn't have went there. But the simple fact is like, if we got a contributor coming on, this is how I look at it, Joe, you let me know what you think. We got a contributor coming on. You know, I don't really look at Joe, but as you say, for the sake of argument, last year, Joe coming on. Joe has his opinion on something.
Starting point is 01:03:59 my job is not trying to shoot that down. Right. And so I just think, you know, and look, we're competitive. We're, you know, testosterone, still pump, high, no mind do. You know, but I look, like I said, I don't know, I don't know Frank. Watched him. I know Teague a little bit, had some conversations with him. But guys, I really don't really don't know enough of how it started.
Starting point is 01:04:26 I just saw what was trending and was going back. and forth, but I need, I would have to like go back and sit down from the, the beginning and see what precipitated it and what led it to get to where it got. Right. Same here because I didn't, I just, I've seen the frenzy that it calls, but I didn't really, I didn't see the interview or whatever they were talking. Gruffie, ULTD, give it up to the fam. Jared Reed, 90 Seattle, Seattle defense from Golden, Goldsburg, North Carolina, Goldsburg High Stand Up, Just Another.
Starting point is 01:04:59 a kid from Goldsburg. You guys did it. Alabama alum. Only ID, top five NFL fans of my list. The Mannings, the Sharps, the Kelsies, the Watts, the Barbers. What's your guys?
Starting point is 01:05:11 That seems like a pretty good list of me. Yeah, that was a good one. That's a cool list to be a part of it, too, right? You're talking about brothers. I mean, because the Matthews. Now, Clay, Dad. Clay Matthews, Sr.
Starting point is 01:05:36 And then Bruce Matthews, his son is an old tackle. But I think their dad also played in the league, just like, you know, Peyton and Eli's dad, Archie played in the league. But it's a good list. I ain't going to fight y'all. We'll stick with this one. Yeah. That concludes this episode of Nightcap.
Starting point is 01:05:57 We want to thank each and every one of you guys for joining us. We really, really appreciate that. We're back tomorrow night as well. Y'all know who I am. I'm your favorite up. That's my partner and co-host, Liberty City's own. A former pro bowler and an all pro. He's Chad Ochosenko Johnson.
Starting point is 01:06:12 And the third member of the Big Three, a University of Arkansas alum, Arkansas Little Rock Native, and he's a seven-time NBA All-Star for the Atlanta Hawks, and he was nominated for the Pro Basketball Hall of Fame. Number seven, ISO Joe Johnson. Thank you for joining us. Joe, appreciate that. Yes, sir.
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