Club Shay Shay - Nightcap - Hour 2: Jayson Tatum underwent surgery on ruptured achilles & the NFL week 1 schedule is leaked!

Episode Date: May 14, 2025

Shannon Sharpe & Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to Boston Celtics forward Jayson Tatum successfully going through surgery on his ruptured achilles, Trey Hendrickson is having contract issues with the Bengals & Travis Kielce has lost 25 pounds to get ready for the new season & much more!01:47 - Tatum underwent successful surgery for repairing achilies09:42 - Trey Hendrickson16:17 - Week 1 scheduled leaked20:00 - Aikman and Buck name superbowl picks21:44 - Travis Kelce lost weight24:00 - MLB commish ends lifetime ban for deceased players27:48 - Greenbay guard Ryan falls short of 2 mil bonus30:47 - Q & Ayyy(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Yeah. Because the last thing you want to do, Ocho, is re-tear it. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. But you don't want no pressure on that. No, you want it elevated and when you got to move around. See what the time is, what's average. I think six to eight weeks is non-weight bearing. And you know, I saw an article today where they're saying

guys that have had that injury in the timetable that took, like Kevin Degardnet is probably the most famous person to have that. He was off for two years, basically. He had it at 30, and then he came back at 32, and Kevin Durant didn't miss a beat. Dominique had it late in his career. If I'm not mistaken, I think Jason Tatum might be the youngest player that's had it. If I'm not mistaken, I think Jason Tatum might be the youngest player that's had it. Right. Mofanzo Ellis had it. There have been several guys that have... And then everybody's body heals differently too.

Yes. Even though he's much younger than the other... Yeah, he's... Like I said, I meant to screen... I meant to take a... Because I was reading on the... I think I was on ESPN or somebody. Maybe Google, I was Googling it. And I was Goog on the, I think I was on ESPN or somebody, maybe Google, I was Googling it.

And I was Googling it. I could do that. Maybe I should have screenshotted it, said it in the ass, you're like, put this on the board. But it, but it, maybe it was, Uh, maybe it was a, I don't think he's playing next year.

No, you don't think so? Yeah, that's well, I mean, Achilles and ACA is completely different and he's I see you, I see you, I see you start at 26. Yeah. What I say start at 26, not so he's not me I see you. I see you start at 26. Yeah, he sees you know what I say start at 26 Not so he's not gonna play like the basketball season starting October goes into 26 now 26 leading to 27 That's what that's what I'm coming back. Yeah, I'm gonna make sure that they I'm make sure that they cuz Kevin Durant look like he missed a beat Cuz remember Kevin Durant. He missed a bubble right Right. And then he came back the following year. He's in, yeah. The question is, Ocho, given that, are they going to break it up, the Celtics?

Cause you got, you got JB on the Max contract. You got Derrick White, you got, uh, uh, Holliday and you got Al Horford. I mean, speaking of breaking up, do they have the patience to wait until he comes back to see if they can make another run? They just sold the team for 6.1 billion. Yeah. Now, does new ownership have the patience with understanding everything is probably lopsided?

You're probably not making any money right now anyway. And just think about this now. Just imagine if you paid three million for a car. But it's gonna cost you $400,000 a year to upkeep it. Cause that's what happened. You paid six billion for the team, but you still got to pay 300 million to JB,

300 million to JT, you got 130 to pay 300 million to Jason, J.B., 300 million to J.T. You got 130 million, 140 million, 100. Well, also, you know, she also got to understand what if you can pay six billion a way, it may have been 14 and you had to pay Jason Taylor 300, you got to pay Jaylen Brown 300. You already got fuck you money anyway. But you know what people got money? They like to spend money like what they want to spend money on Yeah, they like to buy a yacht or they'll buy a plot private plane

They're gonna save a world they can save and when they normally save employees. Yeah That's what they say That's what they say. But you, uh, hold on. I'm trying to think, George, where we saw that, uh, the print that you had a custom 7 47 that jumbo jet. Remember we thought, oh, the side, the side of prints. Uh, now we're going to roll with two, which one it was an LAX. It was an LAX. Now he's on the road with To which one it was a lax it was a lax you want got one

747 yeah, that's the biggest. That's the biggest that that's what the president Air Force one is a 747 Hold somewhere between 480 and 650 people and they can imagine how big that is Yeah, and different kind of money over there. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't wanna. Different kind of money? Yeah, we took, yeah, we took, yeah, we took. Oh yeah, that was in LA, what? Burp, yeah, yeah.

I was like, yeah. I just tell you man, was having he was having a unbelievable he's about to be named to his first fourth consecutive NBA all first team NBA first team all NBA he was having a night last night and just like that fluke. Damn Luke. When he went down you're like, did he and then I saw him spinning around and he grabbed that. Yeah, right. The angle. I knew what it was. Yeah, I just I was I was hoping for the best.

Yeah, because he had heard oh Joe, it's a man's fine. Like you got feel like you got kicked. Yeah, like man who kicked me? Who tripped me? Mm hmm. Ah, just thinking about man. So what if you're the Celtics? Because next year he's up late next year. Yeah. Do you break it up? That's a that's a that's a great question.

Who's the head of the snake now? JB? JB? Yeah. Well, Jason, I think Jason Tatum is the guy that the boss is not getting up off of. Question is, would you trade JB and some draft picks? Let me see. For who?

Yeah, that's it. That's it. I don't know what, I've been. Yeah. You trade, you trade JB, I'm trying to think, who could you, you think the Celtics be interested in Kevin Garnett? I mean, Kevin Durant?

I mean, Dan, that's a good one. Okay. What do you think? I think some people will say hell no, maybe based on age. Right. But I understand that he can still give you 20, 20, 25, 20 at a night. I mean, hell, why not? They might say no, though.

It'll be interesting to see what they do. They might say no though. You'll be interested to see what they do. Um, I think maybe a conversation that they weren't going to have had the Boston Celtics did what we thought they could capable of doing, which was repeating. I think it's a no question that you try to try to let them repeat, but all bets are off the table now, Ocho. All bets are off the table. Yeah. They, uh, for whatever, they underachieved. I'm not so sure even if Jason Tatum had stayed healthy, they were going to beat the Knicks. Cause that would mean they would have to beat the Knicks three times.

In a row. Yep. We'll never know, Ocho. We'll never know. Stay tuned. Trey Henderson met with the media today for 22 minutes. He said he will not play this season on a current contract. His arrival today at voluntary OTAs

as a result of things becoming personal after being informed by Zach Taylor on Monday, he would be fined for missing mandatory minicamp. Let's take a listen to what Trey told Marsha Kamansky of WCPO. At this point, do you want to be a Cincinnati Bengal? Wow, that's a tough question, too, because you try not to let the business become personal, I think over the last week or so, it's become personal, unfortunately, you know, and when there's a lack of communication in any relationship, if it's business or personal relationship, lack of communication in any relationship. If it's a business or a personal relationship, lack of communication leads to animosity and

that leaves my narrative only to me with no clear direction. I'm a Floridian so there is unprovoked shark attacks and there's provoked shark attacks. The last two seasons with Trey Hendrickson off the field, 294 drop backs. They were dead last in success, dead last in completion rate, dead last in passer rating, dead last in pressure rate. Bingo's ranked dead last in every statistical category passing wise when Trey Hendrickson is off the field. In 909 drop backs, when he's on the field, in success rate 11th in completion rate 8th and passer rating and 12th and pressure rate

Let's just say he's a Very important. Yeah, they're very important for that defense But you know one thing I do hate boys is the business side of things especially like this They paid Joe you paid T H Joe, you paid T. Higgins, you paid Jamar Chase. I'm not sure if there's enough money to go around to give him- Well let him go!

Wait, let me, give him what he's worth. To give him what he's worth. Let somebody else do it. Yeah, if they were gonna let him go, I would've thought it'd been done, excuse me, I thought it would've been done maybe before the draft or maybe during the draft.

I'm not sure what the issue is going on with there. I hope they rectify the situation. And- They ain't rectifying it. You played in the organization for a decade. You know they ain't rectifying it. Hey, I know, but listen, listen, time to pay for the wall.

You been trying so hard, you tried so hard to be political. I'm just saying, I wanna going to see both sides happy. You know, let Trey get his money, get what he deserves. If you don't want to pay him, you know, what he deserves. Let him go. Yeah, let him go. You know, that's all.

No disrespect. No. Um, and he says, you know, you try to keep, and that's why me, I hired a major. Cause I don't want to, cause y'all going to tell me something that I don't want to hear and I'm gonna be pissed. Hey, listen, one thing about it is a good thing you do have agents and there's certain things that agents keep from you because if you was in those,

you're in those rooms with your agents, but it's time to negotiate. Yeah, man. This is how you really feel about me. Yeah. Oh, that's how you, okay bet. Boy, you'll be pissed off. You would.

You'll be pissed off. Yep. But I, I agree okay bet. Well, you'll be pissed off. You would. Yep. But I, I agree with you. I think there might be a situation with Trey Henderson hold out for half the season and then come in to get accredited for that year and bounce. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. I don't know.

I don't know the cap situation. They still got to sign their rookies. And you know, like you said, you gave Joe money a year ago. You just gave T, you just gave Chase his paper. And the linebacker, remember the linebacker said he want more bread. Yeah. Jermaine, Jermaine Pratt. Pratt.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He ain't gonna get no bread. And we in shambles right now on the defensive side of the ball, man. And that's where y'all need the most help at. Yeah. Because the question is, do you believe, you'd have to say you believe Chase is going to have another Triple Crown year, or Joe is going to lead the league with 43 to 40 plus

touchdowns again, Higgins is going to have the type of year. Yeah, Joe's going to be the... It's to 40 plus touchdowns again. Higgins going to have the top of the year. Yeah. He's going to joke with it. It's important for you to get back. Now, what if your defense, when I trade Henderson, y'all pass rush is. Yeah. And I know y'all took a D lineman, but it's hard for me to see a scenario. He will give you 17 and a half sacks. Like, oh, what you call them, dear.

Right. I hope he does for y'all sake. Y'all going to need. Because you saw as well as your offense played last year, you lost some games 41-38, you lost some games 38-35. Yeah, it was tough. It was tough, especially in the beginning of the season. Yeah. That offense often got up to a slow start. We always start and we get ourselves in the hole at the beginning of the season. If we could just start fast, we wouldn't have to rely on teams at the end of the season and hoping they win certain games or lose certain games so we can get

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Listen to Good Company on the iHeart radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever the week one schedule. The season opens up the Cowboys at the Eagles. Okay, I like that. I know Fox ain't happy about this because normally, you don't normally put a game that gonna do box office regardless, which the Cowboys are gonna do. Right. And then you got a Friday set.

I'm trying to figure out how they get this game in September considering is that when they pass this regulation that the NFL were not gonna play any Friday game as long as the college season was in pool swing NFL say F y'all We play we play we play NFL football. Then you got the Cleveland at the Jets Saints at Tennessee Broncos at the Texans the Bucks at Carolina the Dolphins at the Steelers

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against at Buffalo. And then the your bills Sunday night against at Buffalo. And then the Monday night game, the the Ravens are at Green Bay. Oh, that's a good game. Hold on. Who do who the bills play week one? They play y'all at home. Sunday night. You know, you know, you know, you know, we're not you know, we're not mad. Josh, you know, he started his you know, we're gonna win that you know, we're in that man Josh, y'all go start is a back back MVP campaigns on y'all come again press play

Back to back MVP seasons You don't wanna you don't know how y'all go get how y'all gonna get how y'all gonna sack you? Well, how do y'all gonna stop? How do y'all gonna stop tomorrow? No tea? All they do stop y'all one time. We know y'all can't stop anybody. You know we might surprise you defensively now. Okay I hope so. Listen we might surprise. Y'all surprised me last year with how bad y'all were. So this year surprised me with how good you guys are going to be. Okay I can't wait the football so excited. What game are you most excited to see? I mean, the Cowboys, Eagles, Chiefs 49,

or Chiefs Chargers, Bengals, Buffalo, or the Ravens, Green Bay? Honestly, to be honest, I got three games I really wanna see. I wanna see the Cowboys, Eagles, Bengals, and the Bills. Yep. And you might laugh at me, but I want to see Travis Hunter versus the Cardinals. Okay.

I can say that. I'll keep it down with that. I'm going to see how they're going to use Travis week one in general. It is just to see and get a test and get a feel where he's at. That's what I want to see. Okay. Yeah. I mean, everybody else, I mean, it's cool games, but those three, that's where it's at for me. Okay. Yeah. I mean, everybody else, I mean, it's, it's, it's cool games, but no, those, those three, that's, that's where, that's where it's at for me.

Okay. I can rock with that. Fox got, uh, the late game, late window. They got some 425, they got the Bears, Washington, Seattle, Rails. Man, that Giants, Giants Raiders. Whew. What? Snooze Fest? Man, that Giants Raiders, whew. What, snooze fest? You don't like it? I'm gonna like it.

I'm gonna learn to love it, Ocho. I'm gonna learn to love it. Listen, now, but every year, every year we say, the teams that we think might not be any good, somebody, a couple of teams pops their head up and become very good. Yeah Joe Buck and Troy Aigman made their Super Bowl picks on good morning America this morning But I'm going to say Buffalo finally win it. Aigman Cowboys Troy can't let go, huh?

Now Troy's normally really objective about the cowboys. Now I will give him that. He's had a very harsh critique when it's been warranted. So he's not a homer. Okay, okay. Yeah. Who you got? No. Who you got? No.

Who you got? I'm putting all the money I got on everybody but the Cowboys. ABC. ABC, brother. Everybody but Cowboys. I didn't see some preseason games. It's hard to just put pink blind. Because man, I'm just riding pink blind.

I don't show you the preseasons. Key player get nicked. I'll bet. Look, I need to see some preseason games. Yeah, it's hard to just put pink blind because man, I'm just running a big blind. Oh, you know, the preseason's key player get Nick. Now don't play. They don't even plan to preseason man. Right. They might not. Yeah, they don't even plan. I need to see a game. The odds ain't gonna change that much

after a game. Right. I might if I ever had it, I might put 5200 down on somebody. Huh? I might put 5200 down. Shoot, you'll be able to do that by the season on start of September. Ugh, well, by September, that thing, that 5200 is already like 5900. By September, that thing might be 7. Hey, boy, I might have to put a tariff on that taxi talking about- 5200 is already like 5900 by September that thing might be seven.

Hey boy I might have to put a tariff on that tax you talking about. Uh-uh they suspended the tariffs they suspended them. Travis Kelsey told reporters that he's lost around 25 pounds this off-season to be in better shape for what is believed to be his final season Will Kelsey be able to turn back the clock this season Ocho? Yeah, absolutely I mean you definitely can obviously by losing weight late Losing weight is one of those ways to get get you get your quickness back get you Get you more fleet footed, you know Getting some of that heavy weight up on you so you could be a little bit more smoother and do some of the things you used

To do when you when you was uh, not younger on you so you could be a little bit more smoother and do some of the things you used to do when you were, when you was not younger, but just a little bit, a little bit lighter. Yeah. I agree. I think, I definitely think it's gonna help. I think having Rashid Rice to help lift some coverage up off him.

We saw Xavier Worthy, Blossom. I think that's gonna only be better, but they need to be able to run the ball a little better too, Ocho. Hey, you don't like Pacheco? No? He's been hurt, but they got to run the ball. They got to run the ball better. They got to protect my homes better. I mean, they got to do a lot of things better. Defensively, I think they're going to be good. I think Spags will have them back good again defensively. But I like the fact that Kelsey, you know, I tried to lose like a pound a year as I got older,

went into my final season, like at 226, and finished the season at 223. Yeah, I just, as you get older, you just can't move that, you can't move that weight like you once could. Yeah. Can't. I couldn't. Maybe some You can't move that weight like you once could. Yeah can't I Couldn't maybe some people can but I couldn't Yeah, you know, I think you'll be fine too because it is not like he's in there blocking. He's not a block Yeah, that's not that's not but he still he needs to be able to have that wiggle. He needs to be able to you know, shake

But I think with worthy being worthy having that rookie year that he had, he had an outstanding, um, Superbowl, even though it was an illusion effort, he became the number one receiver to get Rashid Rice back. Uh, they resound Hollywood Brown. So I think it's he, hopefully he can stay healthy. Ooh, man. You know, cause he missed half the season, Ocho with that shoulder injury. So hopefully he stays healthy.

That'll be something that can lift, you know. They got a nice little core. Yeah. I think, I think Kelsey got it. Got another good year in it. MLB commissioner, Rob Manford removed Pete Rose, Shoeless Joe Jackson, and other deceased players from the MLB permanently ineligible list. Manford rule major league baseball punishment of banned individuals

ends upon their death. They are now presumably eligible for the Hall of Fame in Cooperstown. I mean, I ain't not even here to smell my flowers if you do put me in there, man. I mean, what the hell? Yeah. No disrespect. I think, I think, look, this is the greatest deterrent you can have. Yeah.

I know Pete Rose. I'm old enough to remember when Pete Rose played. Remember he left the Big Red Machine, that great team with Tom Seaver and Morgan and Concepcion and Johnny Bench, one of the great catchers, uh, and went to the Phillies and they won it, um, read about Schuyler's Joe Jackson, 356 batting average. Allegedly he took 5,000, $5,000, uh, from a gambler to throw the game, but he still hit three 75 in the World Series. So I guess they expect him to hit 500

because 375 in the World Series is pretty damn good. But yeah. What do you think, Ocho? Somebody got older. It's hard for a guy to have all those damn hits and he's not in the baseball hall of fame. I understand. Also, I just,

Pete Rose has passed on. Yeah. He's passed on. If at any point he was gonna have an opportunity to get into the hall of fame, I mean, I would love for it to be done where he could have been here to smell. He could enjoy. Yeah. He could enjoy.

Yeah. Wow. He could enjoy it. You know, put the man- So I guess Barry gonna be eligible for the Hall of Fame when he dead. I don't understand. He got seven MVP's. Most modern players say he's the greatest player that they've ever seen. You go back and look at Chipper Jones, Tom Glavin, John Smoltz, uh, Greg Maddox. Uh, a lot of the current players, I mean, players that played say he's the greatest player they've ever seen.

And you hear paper tell stories and it's true cause I watched it. He got one pitch here tonight and he hit it hard somewhere. Yeah. He hit it hard somewhere. Yeah. He hit hard somewhere and. He never tested positive. It wasn't an issue when everybody was hooping and hollering and the state of a jam pack. So, and it's crazy, but it's hard.

I mean, to watch what he did is amazing. I don't think we'll ever, it's kind of like, if you saw Tiger, you're never gonna see it again. If you saw Barry, you're never gonna see what he did again. And Shohei is unbelievable. I'm not taking anything away from Shohei Ohtani, because Dave Roberts, who played with Barry,

said Shohei is the closest thing to Barry. But you look at Barry's OPS and you look at his slugging percentage. Yeah. And walk. They will at least pitch to show hate. They, they walk bare with the bases loaded. You go on here and say third base, you go, you go home. Cause I've been riding and I thought it comes play thought he was going to be a grand slammer.

I give up one. Man, listen, Barry's hand-knight coordination, man, being able to find that ball with that Batman was second to none. It is. Second to none. Ocho, the Green Bay Packers guard, Sean Ryan came within two snaps shy of capping off his third NFL season with a $2 million bonus ESPN reported that Ryan was two snaps away from playing 35% of the Packers play offensive snaps between

2022 and 2024 that Mark as specified in the CBA, which would have earned him an additional bonus of $2,042,429. It was previously believed Ryan had hit the mark. Unofficial stats provided by Pro Football indicated that Ryan was 65 snaps short of reaching the bonus heading into the last game of the season. Ryan played exactly 65 snaps and a loss to the Bears his agency We had him at 35 percent of snaps exactly however the NFL and NFL PA both had him just under so poor Packer

They're not giving him the escalator, and we're pretty disappointed about it for sure damn What thing about it one thing about it, but they do not play with a kind of that money boy They stand you boy, and I've heard you. Hey, I was five yards short and they give me my 100,000. Hey, they will play with you like that. Five. They will play with you like that. Yeah.

That is crazy. And obviously, I mean, the NFLPA has to do something about that. They got to do something about that because if he's played 65 snaps in the last game, I mean, he should be able to get that escalator or that incentive. There should be no reason, no reason why. I guess they miscounted. Well, I go back and watch every film and every snap. Every last one.

I need that. That's why you have to be like, see, when you got stuff like that, you don't really know about Ocho and you coming out, Hey, Hey, Ryan, such as such as up. Nah, hell he ain't. He must be going to play left guard cause I'm the right guard. Right. I'm playing all the way to the end.

I'm taking victory formation. Hey, meal down. That's a snap, Ocho. I call time out. Hey, time out. I need to get this meal down. Hey, Ocho. I call Tapa, hey Tapa, I need to get this meal down. Hey, hell nah. Yeah, they give me about a hundred thousand for five yards. So you right, Ocho.

Hey, they don't play. I've heard many horror stories, man. Coaches, head coaches, people calling from upstairs, you know, pull so and so out because if they hit a certain amount of yards, if they get a catch, if they, they, they get this amount of, uh, plays this game, we have to pay an incentive. And you know, the teams really don't want to pay it. That's what I told you. And they, they will show you, they will show you how dirty and grimy that this is by pulling you out so you can't get those incentives.

I stopped putting incentives in my contract because I, if you pay me X amount of dollars, I'm supposed to lead the team and receiving, I'm supposed to go to the pro bowl, I'm supposed to be all pro. So I don't want you jostling with that. So don't worry about it. Go ahead and give me my money upfront and then I'll do the rest from here. Right. All right, don't show.

We're going to get out of here on this one. It's time for our final segment of the evening. It's time for Q and A. Q and A. Tony SG said, it's hard being a Nuggets fan. What do the Nuggets need to do to give Joker more help? He got what he got now? Hey.

He might have less help when he signed that three year, $221 million contract. Do you think he'll sign it? Yeah. Hold on. I mean, you think he will sign it? Yeah. Why don't you just pull a move like Jaylen Brunson did? What? Take it so he can build around you.

Because he's not young like Jaylen Brunson did. What? Take it so he can build around you. Cause he not young like Jalen Brunson. Okay, okay, okay. Triple X cops sanity. We can't say Lakers in five, now we have to say Pacers in five. The ball is shot, call a 1999. Hey, you remember a UN draft? If you do, which is the obvious,

it was really this draft of that trial That was the first year of the lottery Prior to that, you know teens tank the Rockets got them got the number one pick two years in a row they got Ralph Samson in 83 and they turn around and got a Elijah one in 84 and then to put it they installed the lottery James worthy was the first pick in the draft in 82 now my mind you think about this James Worthy was the first pick in the draft in 82 the Lakers won the championship and then they get James Worthy mmm

81 was Mark Aguirre 79 was this Magic, I don't know who the hell, 78. Was 78 Michael Thompson? I think 78 was Michael Thompson. Who the first pick in the draft at 80? 80 was Joe Bagg cow? Who's the Joe Bagg cow? I thought so. Oh, I'm just bull. I should do that.

I mean, you know, listen. I don't want to do that. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I wasn't there back in them days. I was I was chilling. I was on the par. Cooper flag is the perfect situation. He's coming in as a third option when Kyrie comes back and Jason

kids can develop players. Yeah. I mean, people, people definitely believe this draft was rigged. They give up Luca and they turn around and get. Cool. Like, Oh, so how can, how convenient. Yes. Now they say, you know what? We're going to replace what you lost.

Cool flag it is. Trash Talk Tito, what's up? I was going to ask you a question. Is it harder to be a two sports pro athlete or win back to back titles? I think there's been more back to back titles than two sports. I can only think of Bow and Dion. Yeah. Well, I'm a two sport athlete.

What? Bow and Jiving and what other sports you played? I mean, obviously I'm a NFL player. Okay. But did you do that simultaneously while you were playing in the NFL? Yeah, I was a professional ping pong player as well. In the offseason? No. It got to be in the season.

Oh, nah. You got to lead one. So you're on the you're on the circuit. Were you on the circuit? Almost. I missed it. I missed it three times. Yeah, I mean, I can look Brian Jordan did too. Brian Jordan was a safety. He was also played safety and he ended up going to the Cardinals. He gave up the football to play baseball full time. Bo and Deon, those are the only ones I can think about it. Now I know other players that were drafted. I think Dave Winfield was drafted in three sports, baseball, football, and basketball.

Tony Graham was drafted in two sports, basketball and baseball, but to actually physically do it. Yeah. And many people say baseball is the hardest sport to play. Hey, who was the receiver from Notre Dame, huh? Was the receiver from Notre Dame, but he went to baseball instead, he was a pitcher. You remember him?

Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I forgot his last name. Yeah, he went to the Cubs. He still playing? Nah, he might be done. Now that was a long time ago, Ocho. Okay, okay, okay. I can't think of the guy's name. Oh Joe

I don't know why I just thought of that Marja Jeff's Marja he was a nice little he was smooth little smooth. See my man. Yeah, we ain't spelling that one some Marja Yeah, I mean hey he had a 97 mile an hour fastball. Mm-hmm. He's like, you know what? I can be a possession receiver and make minimum, or I go get this big play date from the major leagues.

Oh, yeah. But he played what? He played like seven, eight years in the major. He got called up. Make good little chuck of change. Oh, yeah, so he had to play. He played like seven, eight years then with record like that. Cuz ain't nobody really pitching no 30 games no more like back in the day. Really?

Damn. When? He played 13 seasons, 08 to 2020. Woo. All cardio, no skill. Hey, Uncle Nocho, huge friend question. Would you rather have a long, consistent career or short, legendary run?

How short the legendary run? If I'm gonna have a career like Gale Sales or Sterling Sharp TD? I mean, I mean. But hold on, let's see. Lynn Sanity, would that be a legendary run? No. Okay.

That's it. Hey, that was one year boy. He was on fire boy. Yeah. He was sensational. He was on fire alone consistent. That's a good question. Made for this mountain is a podcast that exists to empower listeners to rise above

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Listen to Good Company on the iHeart radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm gonna take the consistency. Yeah. Could that bread come with that, huh? Yeah. Most definitely. Yeah, I think I'm gonna go, I think I have a long, consistent career.

I take the consistency. Bitch, again, Uncle Nocho, love this show. If you could bring back one retired player for one season, who is it? What's the sport? Baseball, bad bonds. Basketball, I bring back Jordan. Football, I bring back.

My brother, he healthy. I'm selfish. Who you bringing back? Baseball. Oh my goodness. Baseball. Give me, give me, I'm more entertainment. Manny being Manny.

Manny Ramirez? Yeah. Give me some entertainment. I'm going to be going to go football. Matter of fact, we bring up, I'm bringing bring in Tio back. Okay. Yeah, he still wanna play. So I'm gonna bring Tio back so he can live that out one more time.

He does. Who else? Who else? What other sport we got? You got baseball. You have basketball. Who you bringing back? I want my beloved Kobe. Kobe.

I want my beloved Kobe back, man. Let me see what else we got. Hockey. Gretzky. Gretzky. Yeah. Gretzky is a good one. Tennis. Tennis. I want Serena to come back. And beat Margaret Court's record.

That's a good one. Yeah. Federal, I love Fed, the Swiss maestro, but Serena. Serena. I like that. I like it. I like it. Okay, who that said, question, would you would you rather win five, would you rather win one ring as a star or five as a role player? Five. Five.

Okay, am I the sixth or seventh man or I'm 11 to 12? Because if I'm Robert Ori, I'm leveling to 12. Cause if I'm Robert or I'm taking Robert or. Right. What happened to you? You just happened to be on the team. Nah, he'll know. It's a lot. It's a lot of, you know, just sometimes people are fortunate just to be in the

right, right place at the right time. True. Damn. He could have made it more compelling. He could have said two or three. Right. The man said one. Snacks at halftime, okay, don't choke. If you had to start, bench, cut, Cam New, Lamar Jackson, Michael Vick. Come on, man.

I'm starting Lamar. Oh, damn.ick. Come on, man. I'm starting Lamar. Ooh, damn. Hey man, come on, man, who came up with that question? I'm starting Lamar. Damn. Yeah, I'm gonna pass on that one. You got an answer, Ocho? No, I don't. Yeah, I'm gonna pass on that one. You got an answer, Ocho.

No, I don't. Yeah, you do? I'm starting all of them. Mm-mm, you can't. You can't start three quarterbacks. Hey, hey, hey, if you're the basketball, you have a good chance. You say, you know what, I'm gonna start three point guard.

You can't start three quarterbacks. Damn. Hey, why ain't the, you should have did fuck Mary Keele instead of the three quarterback one. That's the original. I don't know. I gotta say, I look, I mean, we gotta do this. I think I was, I was starting Lamar.

I would bench my damn cam. I'm sorry. I was starting Lamar, I would bench Mike, damn Cam. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. And I know Cam was the only one that went to the Super Bowl. Mike did, but like I said, I gotta bench Mike cause the Michael Bigg experience. He got, I can't get rid of it. I can't, can't.

And L Jack, damn I wish get rid of it. I can't. Can't. And they all jacked. Damn, I wish a part of me wish, when Lamar was a free agent and they franchised him, Atlanta would have got him. Can you imagine Lamar and Atlanta on that turf? Man, listen, I'm still trying to figure out who was the idiot that said, what is the owner thing? Was it the owner that said something crazy?

Arthur Blank, Mr. Blank. If somebody said something crazy by him being in Atlanta, I forgot what it was, man butch. Yeah, I know all that, but who you starting, who you benching, who you cutting? Matter of fact, you know what, I'm going, I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm going to MOLA heads. I'm going to MOLA heads. Since Cam has been to Super Bowl, I'm starting Cam.

Damn! Yeah, and I'm going to put Mike on the bench and I'm only going to... You can't... Ah, man, this bad little cunt is the boss. Listen to me. I'm putting Lamar, I'm cutting Lamar because Lamar still playing right now. And this is just a hypothetical. So boom, there it is

I'm keep I'm sticking with me yet. What the boys from my era Alright Good job, Ocho six-foot Aquarius said 86 Celtics win the title then they drive Lin bias a big F. Yep Cuz Lenny was Unbelievable. Oh, hey in comparison to players in today's game, who would Lenbyas be like? Oh my god. He was 6'8". He could hammer the ball, he could shoot it, he could...

Oh my god. He played above the rim. Oh, he was a jumper too? Hell yeah! I'm trying to think who we remind you of. He was a bigger ant-man. What? He played like that? He was special. He was special. Damn.

And we got robbed of greatness. Yeah, you did. You did. Think about it. He's gonna take some of that lifting off of Larry. So you had him, Larry, Mikael, Parrish, DJ. Lenny was special. Josh Daniel Daniel said, how should a regular fan approach y'all in public for pictures, etc?

Hey man, how you doing? What's going on man? Man, I love your show, man. I love you and Ocho together, man. Y'all be do- Hey man, can I grab this picture? Hey, this is the way, don't do it. Hey man, I gotta way don't do it. Hey, man, I got to get this picture. No.

Hey, you like the show. You watch Uncle Nocho. You love nightcap. Occasionally you catch a, I love, I love, hey, club shay-shay. Man, can I take a picture with you? Hey, can I get a picture? Come on, bro. Listen, I don't care how you approach me.

I don't give a f— you know what. Uh-oh! Cupcake Mama! Been a while. Good evening, guys. My nephew, Kayden Turner, a senior at Summerville High, signed with Flagler College today for track and field. Please give him a shout out and some encouraging words. Kayden, congratulations bro, going to college, track scholarship.

Work hard bro, congratulations, you've earned this. And guess what? Your parents don't have to pay for college, you ain't gotta get a job to pay for college. That's always the best. Do your best bro, do your absolute best. That's all you can ask, that's all you can ask for yourself. Give it your absolute best. Yeah, congratulations you could ask. That's all you can ask for yourself. Give it your absolute best

Yeah, congratulations, man. And just remember one thing no matter how hard you work no matter what you do You'll never be able to beat me running. Oh Lord have mercy. Oh My mercy said hey guys want to ask for a shout out for my wife Ashley Nunes She gave birth to my daughter, Ariel. Two months ago, mom and babe are doing well. Ash, Ashley. I already gave her that already.

Ashley, congratulations. Glad to have a new mom. Ariel, you're doing well. Bond, appreciate you watching, man. Appreciate your support. Hopefully you'll get mom and baby watching when they're older, when she, the baby is old enough. Hopefully you and mom, y'all watch this like unk and ocho. But congratulations, glad everybody's healthy.

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