Club Shay Shay - Nightcap Hour 2: Joe Burrow GIFTS o-line FOSSILS + Brian Flores BACK as a HEAD COACH? + Snoop Dogg has own BOWL GAME + Michigan HIRES Kyle Whittingham + Russell Westbrook PASSES Magic Johnson in assists

Episode Date: December 28, 2025

Shannon Sharpe & Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to Joe Burrow gifts his offensive lineman fossils for their end of season gifts, Brian Flores is getting a lot of head coaching interest..., & Snoop Dog has a bowl game named after him and much more! Subscribe to Nightcap presented by PrizePicks so you don’t miss out on any new drops! Download the PrizePicks app today and use code SHANNON to get $50 in lineups after you play your first $5 lineup! Visit https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/NI... 0:00 - Joe Burrow gifts O-line legit fossils20:26 - Brian Flores expected to draw head-coaching interest26:15 - Snoop Dogg has a bowl game named after him27:18 - University of Michigan has a new head coach38:42 - Russell Westbrook passes Magic Johnson in Assists41:59 - Play or Fade with PrizePicks44:11 - Q & Aaayyy (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:35 on the IHeart Radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Oh, Joe Burrow gifted his offensive linemen literal fossils from for Christmas. Burrow had his teammates over to his house where they were able to take a pick from a selection of authentic dinosaur bear and mammoth
Starting point is 00:02:56 fossils. Fossils drafting order was determined by a combination of seniority and whoever arrived at Burroughs house first. Last year, Burrow gifted his teammates, genuine smart samurai swords. Orlando Brown, who took home a carved bear skull from this year's festival said he was excited to display it next to the sword from last year. It says a lot about who he is, his personality, his heart, all of those things, man. He's just a special person.
Starting point is 00:03:22 Ocho, I would have gave him joking nothing. what y'all know i missed 10 weeks yeah oh come on i'll call them all over what i said look your time to come over is at 7.30 i put my foot in his ass who your time is to come over at 735 i put my foot in his ass man y'all got me y'all got me effed up
Starting point is 00:03:49 yeah two of the last three years yeah nah hell now what yeah two of the last three years no eph no i ain't give y'all country Nothing. Hey, look, you got to take care of your linemen. I know things didn't go right. They didn't take care of him.
Starting point is 00:04:03 He did right by him. Some time things don't go to where you want him to go, but you put in work, y'all go to war together. And they ain't just gifts. These are like, this is exceptional. Like back to back, samurai swords? Yeah. Samurai swords?
Starting point is 00:04:23 But you know how much a samurai? And you know he ain't just getting no any samurai swords. But top of the line, top of the line. You hit me? Yep, I agree. And he giving them boys that kill Bill, that Uma Thurmond sword, huh? Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:37 Yeah. The, uh, uh, the jacuzuna. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, the ones, they chopped the thing off and say, you're in? You really in? You really want to be in? Let me see something. Put that, put that pink out there.
Starting point is 00:04:50 Ha-ha-ha. Hey. No, I don't want to be in. I was just playing. Hey, and can you think about that? Fossils. dinosaur fossils but you know how much that probably costs yeah joe hey joe got that long money man that's that long listen that that that that's something
Starting point is 00:05:08 i would do that's something that if i would know your cheap ass wouldn't do nothing hold on listen to me listen to me huh now i'm a very i'm a very thoughtful person now if i'm the quarterback and i'm making you bought did you buy your lineman anything when you made the pro bowl or an all pro did you buy your lineman did you gift anybody anything i wasn't a quarter i was i wasn't a quarter i'd ask you that let me ask your question when you made the pro bow right did you fly your officer coroner did you like fly your position coach over to a why it's a simple question oh so be careful yes or no you're not listening to me i tried i tried to fly barbara kowski i tried to fly hugh jackson i even tried it well i tried to fly my quarterback but
Starting point is 00:05:49 nobody wanted to go they didn't want to go they say listen this is something that you achieve we appreciate the consideration for you you've been asking um you i was happy every every year every time you got to understand i win six in a row i'm like boy y'all y'all don't want to go this year he say no what a minute you was willing to take them to a why so you're going to fly them probably first class put them up for a week whoa whoa whoa fly who first class i want to fly nobody first class you're going to get you a flight but then won't go be no first class okay just just say for the sake of argument but you're going to put you're going to put them up for a week. I know what the Ilani cost. The Ilani was costing $2.50 when I went.
Starting point is 00:06:29 And I went way before you did. Let me tell you something. Let me tell you something about me in the NFL and any time that I need stuff for guests. Unk, they gave me a nice discount. It's one thing that it did. I always told the line. I might have been the problem, child. I might have been the bad boy. Unk. I might have been the villain. But I never crossed that line. Never crossed that line knowing that I would need them in the long run. You're with me when I'm right, right? You with me? They stay with me, nah. Yeah, they took care of me. They took care of me back then. They still taking care of me today. Come on, nah. Hey, it's one thing I know how to do. I couldn't just play the game on the field. I played it off the field. And it's paid dividends.
Starting point is 00:07:15 I might play a fool, but I ain't one. I'm just trying to figure out when I'm going to get mine. But anyway. What you need? What? What you need? Why are we going into 2026, man? When TD went for 2000, we got golf clubs.
Starting point is 00:07:34 Jamal, his rookie year, he got us watches. I think that watching my girl, I ain't going to tell you what it is. I want nobody to bring it in my eye trying to steal it. but uh yeah uh yeah that's what i mean i got a watch i got a rolex and t d ball golf clubs the golf bag golf clubs it's still it's still in my basement damn huh that's what you did with the go that's what you put them in the basement i don't play no golf so why you ain't give him back huh i would have gave him back I don't play no golf. But the bag got my name on it.
Starting point is 00:08:18 Yeah, but I would have told T-D, give me something I could use. Give me something I could use. Don't give me nothing that's just going to do with us. I mean, for the most part, Ocho, if they buy me a dune buggy, I'm not driving no dune buggy. You ain't going to go? No, I'm not. You live in the country.
Starting point is 00:08:32 How are you not going to drive a dune buggy? I know, absolutely not. Hey, hey, hey, man, you surprised me today, too, huh? Whatever. Well, you know, when I was talking about bucking bulls, boy, Well, you know your little history, huh? Come on, man. I got the DVD with Bodacious.
Starting point is 00:08:50 Oh, me, I've been watching Bodacians in 2014, huh? I know, I know about it. I looked at it and I started reading. I say, what the hell? Oh, nobody needs an only boy. Okay? Yeah. And it's so funny, you would think about it.
Starting point is 00:09:04 I mean, obviously me, I'm not the city. What the hell, Eagle? I got to sit there talking about bucking bulls and PBR, like, like I'm talking football. Hey, that's Sharp break? he was a mix between the charlese and a brahman yes sir now you got to be careful i mean obviously you breathe when you breed cattle you obviously you breed uh big to big you can't read a charles right because the birth canal the charley uh the charley is just too big yes uh but that was a that was a bad boy oh yeah that was a bad boy tough heedeman he broke every bone in tough
Starting point is 00:09:35 heat him in his face he knocked the other dude unconscious hey going forward he hit the crack he would do he would he would he would jump And he would dive, and the moment his front foot hit, and he'd feel the rider's, he'd come back up. He'd put his head back. Really? Yep. And it might have been to the PBR finals, that Tuff had another opportunity, and Tuff tipped his hat to him, and said,
Starting point is 00:09:58 now, I'm done with him. You done? And Sammy Andrews, say, you know what? Before he kills somebody, let me retire. Let me shut him down. Let me set him down. Now, all these other bulls, look, you got a little yellow jacket and E.
Starting point is 00:10:11 Yellow jacket, to Hunter, and Bushwhacker and Dillinger. They were all phenomenal. Yeah. They were all phenomenal. Yeah. But that 1,900 pounds sharp rate? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:20 What nothing. Hey, Unk, I don't know, I don't know. I have never seen. There have been three riders. They have been three riders that has successfully rolled Bushwhacker for eight seconds. And my uncle, J.B. Mooney is one of them. Yeah. That is it.
Starting point is 00:10:39 I'm not sure who the other two are. But in the entire. tired in his career for only three people to ride Bushwhacker, and all other bull riders say he is the most rankest bull of all time. No, the rank is in Bodie. You think so? Modacious? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:55 Ocho, they retired him before he kills somebody. Think about that, Ocho. Ocho, we can't let you play football before you really might hurt somebody. So you've got to retire. Let that sink in for a second, Ocho. Yeah. Sammy Andrews took him. He was in his prime.
Starting point is 00:11:12 right right he said nah nah nah we just we're gonna we're gonna retire him he's gonna literally kill somebody yeah think about this ohcho you get you draw this bull tough hit him after he broke everyone in his face yes sir tough drew him again i think it was in the pbr finals right he said no he tipped his hat to him he tipped his hat to him chat go look it up hey hey unc the chat say what the hell is we talking about We're talking about Boots. We're talking about the PBR, professional bull-r-r-r. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:47 Man, look, like I said, look, Bushwacker, I think I was talking about Bushwacker on CBS way back when. Bushwacker three times a bull of the year. I think Dillinger, I think he won it twice. I think E.T. A little yellow jacket to Hunter. They were phenomenal. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:06 But that's Charbray? Yeah. I got, I got to go check out a minute. And he died, Ocho, he died. He got a, he caught an infection. Yeah. And he ended up dying. Hmm.
Starting point is 00:12:18 That's crazy. Hey, you know what's so funny? You know what? When we create, when we create that content, right? When we start doing a little thing, we got to go somewhere where they have boom. I know you probably won't get on. I'm a damn show. Ain't going to get on it.
Starting point is 00:12:31 You know my crazy. I know Ash can hear me. Ash, let's have, we got to set that up. If I die, I die. But I didn't have been a, a chat. Y'all got to look about it. That made for great TV. Yeah, it did.
Starting point is 00:12:42 They do, they do. Hey, I wrote a ranked bull. I think it was, what, 2010, Un, 2010, 2011. At the PBR in Duluth, Georgia, the bulls called Deja Blue. I lasted about 1.5 seconds, you know, but hey, you talk about a drilling in rush, you're talking about scared because it's the unknown,
Starting point is 00:13:02 I never done it before. And I rode the mechanical bull. Yeah, oh, that ain't even nothing. Hey, listen, you, you're telling it. I mean, Ty Murray was my coach. You know, Ty Murray is my coach. Tymer is my coach. He was like, I'm like, Tide, it's so easy though.
Starting point is 00:13:15 I got inside that shoot and I tried to sit on the bull. I said, Ty. He's so, Ocho, he's so wide. That's the problem. He's, I didn't, you're trying to squeeze, can I tell you, I couldn't squeeze. I couldn't squeeze. Hold on, the man at the gate,
Starting point is 00:13:31 the man at the gate say, At the shoe. Ocho, you ready for me to open? I said, no, I can't squeeze my legs. I looked at bad tie. I say, Ty, what do I do? He's too fat. He said, use the spurs.
Starting point is 00:13:43 I say, I said, nigga, what? So, hey, um, making man. Because you kick the fur, then all you do is making man. But see, on the mechanical bull,
Starting point is 00:13:54 it's easy because I could squeeze. You can squeeze, yeah, because I have my leverage. I had my leverage. I sat down in the shoot. I'm like, Ty,
Starting point is 00:14:03 I can't move. I ain't got no leverage. He said, use your spurs and just hold on tight. What? when that gate open I ain't never felt that kind of power before never you have to like you have to like chat you have to see one of these things up close and personal oh my god TV don't do him justice at all because you're looking at 17 18 maybe 1900 pounds of all muscle so look at the most athletic guy you take ronie coleman at his best with 300 pounds yeah So time six,
Starting point is 00:14:43 Arrani Coleman, muscles everywhere. Oh, Lord. Hey, you know what they feel like up close, Aunt I'm sure everybody in here maybe you've had a pit bull or they pet it. You petted a pit bull and you know how solid they are? Yes.
Starting point is 00:15:00 It's full of muscle. That's what it's like. And it's so intimidating, especially when you don't come from that background. If you didn't grow up around them, I'm not a Liberty City, aunt. I ain't never seen no cows. I just had the opportunity to go out there ride.
Starting point is 00:15:14 Yes. I told me, well, you want to come right? I say, yeah, it's an NFL lockout. I can do whatever I want to do right now. Yep. Ty Murray never showed me the Bulls. We went straight to the Mechanical Bull for three days straight. I say, Ty, this seemed easy.
Starting point is 00:15:31 It ain't that hard. Mechanical Bull ain't even easy. But the thing you can squeeze a mechanical bull. We were in Barcelona and we rode the Mechanical Bull. Man, that thing bucked my ass off in like three seconds, like two seconds. Okay, one second. Hey, Ocho, because you know it started out real slow? And then all of a sudden they go.
Starting point is 00:15:49 Yeah, get the going. Oh, man, listen. That's a pop, wow. I said, let me go and get up here because that's all I need. You know, it broke my back. But you have, like, to see them animals up close and personal. How powerful. Oh, man.
Starting point is 00:16:06 How powerful, how fast. And, you know, some of some. And you can tell which ones are athletes. and which ones aren't like there's a huge difference if you know what you're looking at yeah it's unbelievable because you're obviously the smaller bulls are going to be a little bit more athletic because they because they're smaller but when you get somebody like a bushwhacker you get a bodey or you get a delinger you're talking about something 16, 17,700 pounds and move with that kind of force I don't want no part of that because you because the thing is you've kind of studied the bulls
Starting point is 00:16:36 and you kind of know sometimes they come out and they spin they go right and they spend sometimes they go left sometimes they jump straight up in the air but what bode would do boney would leave the leave the ground yeah he would dive uh-huh and then when your momentum ship because you're over here he comes back he throws his head back into your face yep you coming all coming all right away so imagine that kind of force you're talking about 1800 pounds yeah that kind of force diving throwing his head back you out you're out damn Hey, we go to a farm, we catch a couple of pigs. We see what they got to, see if somebody got a 800 or 900 pound bore on the farm.
Starting point is 00:17:20 I'm ready. Come on. Come on. I'm ready. I'm ready. I don't, I don't care. Somebody got a Hampshire or do rock or a Chester White. I'm sure somebody got. I'm sure somebody got some. I'm definitely going to go check some chickens. We can catch, you know, a Rhode Island. We catch a barred rock, Dominique. Yeah. Yeah. We'll see what they got on the farm. I'm ready. Let me go get my chaps out, man. I'm ready. Yeah, I'll let you do that. I'll let you do all that.
Starting point is 00:17:46 Yeah, yeah. I got it. I got you on. I ain't going to embarrasses, man. I ain't going to embarrasses. I'm definitely getting eight seconds. Shh. That don't know, real.
Starting point is 00:17:55 You might get eight seconds on that mechanical bull. I tell you what, how about this? How about we stay out there until I get eight seconds? Shh. I don't even think you got one second on that bull. I got, I got 1.8. one point eight that that's pretty good because hey some some of the pros come out and they last 1.8 but also people don't realize how big how massive they are to see one up closer it's kind of like
Starting point is 00:18:23 going to the zoo because you think like you see a line on tv yeah and then you see that when i went to i went to seek free and roy show uh-huh oh you's 1.5 oh that's good that's good that's good hell yeah not good you know you realize how long eight seconds in Oh, it's long, it's long, it's long. Hey, Chad, y'all look at the video, man, when I rode that, when I rode that thing, boy, I would clean too, huh? I would, I had him a boost.
Starting point is 00:18:50 I went to Sixth Friend Roy. Uh-huh. And I didn't realize, you know, it had been, I was in Man High School. I went to the Jacksonville Zoo. But I had never seen one that close. You know, you see them 30 yards, you know, 30 feet, 40 feet away.
Starting point is 00:19:04 Right, right. But in the Sixth Friend Roy, to start the show, they walked the Lions and Tigers down the aisle. Now, obviously, you know, hey, they're taking care of your boy. I'm however. I got my mom, my sister. Right, right.
Starting point is 00:19:17 My brother and his wife. So, Ocho, I'm sitting, I'm sitting just like this here. I can literally stick my hand out like this here and touch the lion and the tiger's hand. Now, you think a lion is big. You ought to see a tiger. Tiger. Tiger, yeah, they're bigger. A tiger outweighs a lion by two, 300 pounds.
Starting point is 00:19:34 Yeah. But to see how, man, that lion's head was this big. I said, oh my God. So I told my sister, because my sister was sitting next to me, my mom was inside, and my brother and sister was in, my sister and my brother and my sister-in-law was there, oh, further inside. So I said, if you want to reach over to touch,
Starting point is 00:19:55 you say, absolutely not. And then like, I think it was maybe like, maybe like a couple of months later, that from Montecore grab Roy. Roy, yeah. Yeah. And obviously you can't do it. But what they do to get it even bigger,
Starting point is 00:20:13 they'll breed a tiger and a lion to get a LIGRA. The Liger, yeah. I've seen some down here at Metro Zoo. Oh, Lord, have mercy. They're huge. Now that's enormous. Yeah. I mean, I love seeing things like that in their natural habitat.
Starting point is 00:20:29 Obviously, you wouldn't get a lion because they're in two different continents. Right. So you're never going to get that. But to see, that's what I got to go. I got to go to the Serengetti. Mm-hmm. I got to go to the mess of my mind. I got to go to see them in the natural habitat.
Starting point is 00:20:45 I want to see a Cape Buffalo. I want to see a leopard. I just got to see it. Yeah, you're going to like that. And speaking of the Sarangetti, I was able to go to Kenya. This is actually when I was playing in the all season. I was doing some stuff with feed the children. You remember feed the children, right?
Starting point is 00:21:04 Yeah. Yeah. So I went to Kenya one time and I had a chance to obviously feed the children and go to some of the slums and uh and and feed some of the kids but outside of that when we had off time i was able to go to the i'm not sure if it's called the grasslands or the serengetti and i spent time with the messai warriors yeah out there in the grasslands and obviously saw the huts and everything was made made out of mud yeah it was amazing and some and you know they greet you by jumping you know you're vertical and so that was sure i'm out there with some damn sources some tim zone
Starting point is 00:21:33 and i'm out jumping as a greeting to them and uh that was one of the greatest experiences of all time being able to see you know some of the lines of Cape buffalo's rhinoceros in person the big five huh the big five yeah that's what they call lions lions uh rhinos uh the Cape Buffalo right uh rhinoceros and I think the leopard I think that's the big five yeah you look that up ash I think but I think that's the big five that's what people and I couldn't because I know people that have actually gone and hunt and taking down a lion or taking down a Cape Buffalo, a Kudzu, Elan.
Starting point is 00:22:20 If I, you know, if I'm, you know, an Eelon or something like that that I can eat the meat. But to kill a lion or the elephant or something like that, that ain't going to eat, nah. I don't want no trophy. You know, you know, the Maasai Wars? They don't, they don't have guns. They don't, but they're spears.
Starting point is 00:22:33 They got spears and arrows. They spear the arrows. When they try to take the cattle, they try to kill the guns. And one of the young, one of the young Maasai Wars, whoever kills the lion, they wear the mane over their head. That's how you become a man. That's the trend. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:48 Oh, you heard about that? Yeah, no. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, that was dope. That was dope hearing those stories. Yes, that's for the big five. Yeah. I was right.
Starting point is 00:22:58 Okay. No, I'm saying the big five. Right. Leopard, lion, rhino, Cape Buffalo, elephant. Okay. Oh, the elephant. Okay, okay, okay, okay. Yeah.
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Starting point is 00:27:03 But anyway, because of the effectiveness of his scheme, generally speaking, his peers and various general managers recognize that he's doing a phenomenal job. Helping Flores and coming to cycle, the fact that as one source put it, there are many names, but very few stand out. At least one GM regards Flores as the best defensive coordinator in the entire league with a variety of pressures
Starting point is 00:27:25 that make it very difficult for offenses to prepare for. And every week, some believe the schemes alone will give him serious consideration. Interested teams will undoubtedly dig deep into time with Miami, which didn't go well, how much of that is on him. No, Tua was on him. He didn't want Tua, whether you say he wanted Herbert,
Starting point is 00:27:48 whether he wanted Justin Love, let's just stand on this. I think everybody can agree he didn't want Tua. So who he wanted outside of that, that was an arranged marriage that he couldn't get out of. Yeah, yeah. And I like the idea that he's up for the coaching, Oh, George Love, Jordan Love.
Starting point is 00:28:07 Yeah. I'm glad that he's up for the coaching job, Zunks, but also where he goes is very important. Yeah. Very important. You think about his exotic schemes and some of the things that are very complex that he's able to do that makes it very confusing for offenses to be able to have success against the Minnesota Viking defense. But what he has to have where he goes, he has to have the personnel to be able to pull
Starting point is 00:28:29 that shit off. You got to get greener, you got to have a Dallas Turner. You got to have certain guys that can make it work. Yeah, absolutely. You got to have you Isaiah Rogers and all of those. other supporting cast members, you know, Harrison and them young fellas. You got to have.
Starting point is 00:28:40 Murphy Jr. Bingo. So that's going to be very important. And he has to take into account where I'd go and where I choose to be the head coach and bring those philosophies and those ideologies that are having us having success in Minnesota. I got to have the players to be able to pull that off. Because if you don't, it ain't going to be the same. It ain't going to work.
Starting point is 00:29:01 And you know how short that leash is. You know how short that leash is for a head coach. coach yeah all right okay but that I look I think he'll get some consideration I think Vance Joseph will get some consideration yeah there are jobs available and look first of all there are people there are coaches on interim right now Tennessee is on interim who else is on interim coach didn't somebody else get the Giants was on interim um the Titans is on the interim yeah uh I mean, see, that's
Starting point is 00:29:38 Look, I got one piece I got Jeffrey Simmons Yeah, no, oh Jeff, Jeffrey coming to I got Jeffrey Simmons He ain't gonna be there I got Jeffrey Simmons I just told you he's not going to be there What about the Ravens
Starting point is 00:29:53 The Ravens got to get some pieces Matabeke has been injured all year He's their best defender I'm trying to think The Giants. Look, the Giants, oh, you got Lawrence, Brian Burns, you're probably going to lose Fibildo, you got Abdul Carter. Now we're talking.
Starting point is 00:30:15 Now we need one piece on the back end, though. Yes, for sure. Give me something nice on the back end. Well, you're going to have a high draft pick. I don't know, I don't know people normally don't take safeties that high. That high? Because you look at Ed Reed, you look at Palomalu. You look at some of the better safeties and look at where they've gone in the draft.
Starting point is 00:30:30 They don't normally take safeties with the top 10. They got a good one that's worthy of a top 10 pick down in Ohio State. now and brother down oh yeah oh cho as great as he was he wasn't as good as ed reed coming out oh no hey but it's hard that i can remember going that high well you know who who uh uh the guy went to washington and up passing john taylor rest in peace sean taylor yeah i don't know if he'd act now no i mean he i mean Caleb downs is unbelievable good but boy hey sean taylor you're talking about a guy that six foot three 225 pounds could run four, four, three, four, four, had range,
Starting point is 00:31:09 it would knock your block off. Yeah, yeah, he was different. He was different. He was different. But Caleb Downs is the best we have right now. He absolutely is the best coming out. And he will be, I do believe, well, ain't no question. He'll be a top, he'll be a first round pick.
Starting point is 00:31:22 The question is how is he top ten? Absolutely. Absolutely. Especially for teams that need it, especially defensively. Hello, Cincinnati. Hello, Giants. Come on now. Yeah
Starting point is 00:31:37 The thing is But normally when you get safety It's that big They're stiff Sean Taylor wasn't stiff at all No no no no To be that big He can move
Starting point is 00:31:49 Now you look at Jamal Adams Jamal Adams was a little stiff in the hips And that's why it was easy for him To make the transition to go to linebacker Mm-hmm Bob Sanders was on the small side He just broke down on Cho You can't hit that
Starting point is 00:32:04 bro he'll Volkswagen run into a brick wall every day and he's going to run into it every time every day you have to be in most of the time he's winning old bullet ball boy I definitely think Brian Flores I think Vass Joseph I think there are going to be a few guys that are getting that's going to get some opportunity
Starting point is 00:32:24 to be a head coach this year also in year 2025 Snoot Dog has a bowl game named after him the Snoop Dog Arizona Bowl presented by gin and juice by the Drey and Snoop hosting Miami versus Fresno. With 754 left in the second quarter, the game deadlocked at 3-3. Lynch kicked the ball off to a touchback
Starting point is 00:32:44 following a successful 28-yard field goal. Here's the catch, the Ocho. Snoop Dogg, say, hold on, okay, hello, Cook. Dive, and he caught the ball. So they kicked it off. Snoop Dogg caught the ball in the end zone. Snoop Dogg is the only guy that got more jobs than you, Ocho.
Starting point is 00:33:01 You know, I got to catch him, huh? I listen I got to catch in 2026 like chat y'all know how many jobs I got you know how much how much
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Starting point is 00:33:22 any sponsored endorsements I need more jobs right now I have 5662 in 2026 I need to be at least 615 jobs I'm willing to do anything
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Starting point is 00:37:11 Store more and do more with your data. Try them for free at wasabi.com. Oh, Joe, University of Michigan has a new head coach. Kyle Willingham was hired as Michigan's next head football coach signing a five-year contract. Willingham's deal, Michigan averages 8.2 million a year. The deal is 75% guaranteed in Willingham, Wittingham, is expected to make $8 million in salary in 2026.
Starting point is 00:37:36 He, they got him out of retirement. Oh, would you still the head coach at Utah? Okay. Yeah, he's at Utah. You like, do you like this higher, Coach? I mean, I mean, yes, I like it. Obviously, you, uh, I think it's safe.
Starting point is 00:37:49 Yeah, it's a safe hire. It's a safe hire. We're going to see what happens. I'm not sure what type of coach he is. I don't know much about his history. As far as coaching history, obviously coming from Utah. all, but I'm assuming not only is it a safe hire, it's someone that they feel that can get this program going in the right direction. So, I mean, it is what it is. It was unfortunate what
Starting point is 00:38:12 happened with Mr. Shamar. Did I say it right? Mr. Sharma. Yeah, Sharma. Yeah, but it's, ah, that's, that's a tough deal. It does. It is. I think it's safe. I think he's a proven guy. Yes. You know, this comes with very lofty. expectations. Look, Indiana has gotten exponentially better. Woo. We know Ohio State is Ohio State.
Starting point is 00:38:36 They're going to get seven, they're going to get five to seven, five stars. They're going to get another three to fourth, four stars. So they're going to always be stacked. The question is, how soon can he get Michigan competing with Ohio State?
Starting point is 00:38:52 Yes. Look, they've beaten Ohio State, what, three of the last four years, and they played for the National Day with a title game. They lost the national championship where they won. Jim Harbaugh's last year,
Starting point is 00:39:03 and I think they got put out the year before. But with that being said, we'll see how soon can he get them up to what the boosters and the alumni and the president, the expectation of Michigan? Because at the end of the day, that is Michigan. Yeah, but the whole point about it, the boosters, and getting them, getting, having those lofty expectations,
Starting point is 00:39:25 but again, you got to have that money. That money talks, huh? So if you want to compete with Ohio states and the other teams that are in the playoffs, you know, for that matter, you got to be able to get the players to be able to compete, huh? The landscape of college football had changed now. You got to pay the play to win. And the boosters understand that. Coach Willingham understands that. And I hope the University of Michigan understands that.
Starting point is 00:39:55 If you want to get back to where you once were. you got to go and get the plate. Well, they got the third richest guy in the world. Larry Ellison, his wife, went to Michigan. Dave Portnoy, who owns Barstool and Tom Brady. So they have guys that can contribute to the fund. That's how they were able to get Underwood, the quarterback that had verbally committed to LSU
Starting point is 00:40:22 and got him to flip, you know, four years, $12 million, maybe a little bit. more and tutelage by Tom Brady and this and of that. So they have the capital to get whatever they want, whomever they want. Right. And so that's
Starting point is 00:40:40 what we are. I heard the new head coach at Ole Miss, who's the defensive coordinator, Goulding. He was talking about, hey, he said, used to be the enticement was, we can get you to the NFL. Oh, Cho, guys come with a Ferrari.
Starting point is 00:40:56 He said, we got guys living in the same country club is me. So what's the enticement now? Yeah. What's the day? Well, you know what the enticement is? Still wanting to make it to the NFL. Because, listen, this is just a small chunk of change you're getting.
Starting point is 00:41:10 The real money is when you cross and get your name called. Well, this thing about, Ocho, you didn't get no money. So you didn't have anything but that to hang your hat on. Right. It might have been different, Ocho. You got three, four million dollars at your disposal. You driving around a Ferrari instead of a bucket. Listen, I'm with you when you're right
Starting point is 00:41:29 But one thing about it Think about when I got paid in the NFL Did I shut it down? No, absolutely No, but think about you in the NFL You're in college And you got a Ferrari Yeah
Starting point is 00:41:38 You're in college and you got a Lambo See, you're wearing Chrome Heart in college You got Lewy And you got Gold Yard In college Yeah, it's a holder You fly first class on show But also also on you know what
Starting point is 00:41:53 It comes down to your mindset It also come down what do you value now you you already know how I am those things are cool to have but it's not my identity and I don't value it right that I can get it is cool but I want to be the best of what I do so if I if I do and am able to have it when I'm in college where I was okay I was straight because I got look I got a look I'm I want to get nobody in trouble but anyway you know I was taking care of you know in a sense but I still wanted to make it I still wanted to make it I want to be one of the best whether I got it early
Starting point is 00:42:26 or whether I got it later Well I can't prove I'm the best Until I get to the NFL But in the meantime I'm gonna live high on the hall I'm a little great I'm gonna live in the country club I'm gonna have a Ferrari Grannie ain't gonna be living in that shack no more
Starting point is 00:42:38 We eat we in Kobe We eat in Wagoo Kobe Oh hey Hey I try something that Wagoon now I try some of that waygo now Nothing like butt ain't it Yeah hey it's so soft and tender
Starting point is 00:42:50 It's so hold on that That fat Hold on they bought When they bought it to me, I was at Prime 112, I think I told the story. You know, I ain't nobody. I say, you know what, Miles. Miles is the owner at Prime 112. I say, Miles, I talked to Unk.
Starting point is 00:43:05 And he told me when I come here, I don't visit often, but I want to try to waggoo. Unk, they bought me a big plate. They had the waggoo. They had it chopped up and nice slices, too. Nice thin slices, yep. Hey, it was so tender and soft. Hey, like butter. Yeah, but, hey, listen, I saw the price at the end of the night.
Starting point is 00:43:23 uncle, I ain't been back since. Yeah, it's expensive. I ain't been back since. Yeah. But it was a nice experience. It was somewhere between $75 and $100 a house, depending on where you get it, where you get it from. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:36 What, you know, what restaurant, what location, you're in Miami, you're in Atlanta, you're in California, X, Y, MZ. So all that goes into the factor. Also, J.J. Reddick may have taken a shot at LeBron, saying the Lakers, excuse me, have been unorganized since, return since we've gotten bronze back we haven't been organized offensively too many random possessions that's on me is those three things defensively defensive clarity role clarity and offensive organization we don't need no defensive clarity you don't have anybody
Starting point is 00:44:08 that can play defense other than mark is smart jj excuse me Luca can't play defense austeree can't play defense leban is at the age he can't play defense ruin is not a defensive guy uh uh uh uh d a dandra a is not a defensive guy right you got guys that aren't defensive guys that's not your identity yeah so who you say defensive clarity you don't need no clarity i got it's crystal clif for me you can't play defense yeah you got three offensive guys and you try to outscore they're getting layups look come on man stop yeah hey listen yeah i mean you you you're better suited to be able to talk about that in general but i I do understand based off what I've seen and what I've learned about the game now
Starting point is 00:44:55 that I've had to pay attention to it because we talk about it more. I understand it now. And I see that they're off of the team. And I know one thing, if they do start playing defense, if Luca and Rui and God damn LeBron start playing defense and putting in that effort on the defensive end, something has to give. And it's going to give with your offense of production. Your office the output ain't going to be the same.
Starting point is 00:45:17 And you had Rueh, you had Rueh trying to guard Kevin the rant. Okay, that's going to zap all of his energy. Because guess what he gave you on offense? Nothing. Yeah, he tries. I mean, he's a try hard guy, but that's not what he is. That's not, and he's turned himself into a really a knockdown guy, spot up because other guys getting doubled.
Starting point is 00:45:36 But you've got to understand what you have. You don't have a defensive team. And defensively is really mindset. Luca has never played defense. You're never going to get him to play the defense to the level that's really acceptable. You just look at, because at the end of the night, he's going to have 40, 15, and 12. And so you overlook that his guy had 28
Starting point is 00:45:54 or you overlooked the fact that his guy had 30 because he's outscored him and did so many other things. But Lucas is not going to play defense. Austin Reed can't. It's not going to play deep. He just can't. They can play defense to a certain extent. But to the level that you are a championship contending team,
Starting point is 00:46:12 it ain't happening. Yeah. Hey, listen. They're not going to play defense like they got damn. The bad boy pistons. or okay c no no but look what okay c guys look at them guys them guys under the age of 25 yeah yeah that's what that's what I mean and they have role guys they understand their role right he did say that you know
Starting point is 00:46:35 a role clarity okay so what you don't tell me what you want to tell okay Luca's gonna handle the ball most of the time Luca cannot play out the ball so he has to have the ball in his hand the majority of time clear got it off the reeds he's going to have the ball the second in the most of the more time lebron james is really the best equipped to really play off the ball he's now your third option okay so when one of those guys
Starting point is 00:47:00 when two of those guys are off the court then that what's the role clarity do what you got guys that can't do a whole lot hey so i'm just trying to figure out what to do what yeah and listen they get they got to be on
Starting point is 00:47:19 in order for the Lakers to win, in order for them to have success because of their lack of defense or lack of players that can actually play defense, they got to be on offensively every goddamn night. They got to be on. Every night they got to be on. Look, I think JJ is phenomenal. I know he understands basketball.
Starting point is 00:47:38 He can talk about it. But at the end of the day, like he was criticizing Doc at some point in time, stop telling us what you need to do and get it done. Well, it's hard to get it done if you don't have the pieces to get it done. No, no, no, no, no. He went in there and sold Jeannie Bus and all them a deal he could get it done.
Starting point is 00:47:54 So don't tell me you can't get it done now, not that you're in there. Because you know the roster, you know the players that they had before you got your ass there. Yeah, you're right. You're right. Ocho, I've already given you the ingredients.
Starting point is 00:48:06 Don't tell me you can make a seven-course meal when I've only given you popcorn, corn, corn, flakes, cheese, and chitlins. You ain't making no seven-course meal with that. You saw the damn ingredients when you brought your ass in here. Tell me what you want to be the head chef. You know what I got.
Starting point is 00:48:24 Hey, get it done. I don't do all this excuse making and all this, this. Bro, we're 30 games in. And you still talking about role clarity and defensive clarity and this and that. Nah, hell no. I ain't tried to hear that. Oh, Joe, Russell Westbrook has passed Laker legend Magic Johnson for seventh overall, all time in the NBA.
Starting point is 00:48:48 assists. John Stockton is number one. Ain't nobody catching that. Chris Paul is number two. Jason Kidd is number three. LeBron James is number four. Steve Nash, five, Mark Jackson, six, and Russ now
Starting point is 00:49:04 is seven passing the Laker legend in the historically great many regarded as the greatest point guard in NBA history, Russell has surpassed him. 10,142 assist. Hey, as much as people talk trash about Russell,
Starting point is 00:49:19 what's the rest of the rest book? He will still go down as one of the greatest point guards of all time. You know, you know, now? He would go down as one of the greatest point cards of all time. And rightfully so. I think one of the things that hurt him a little bit is the loss
Starting point is 00:49:32 of it, the loss of athleticism a little bit. Yes. Listen, still aggressive, still give you everything he got every night on both ends of the floor. But outside of that, you know, it just he doesn't shoot the ball really well. No. He doesn't shoot the ball really well.
Starting point is 00:49:48 well. And I think him not being able to evolve his game, his mid range or three games, it kind of hurts him a little bit. But again, the fact that he's going to give you everything he got. That's what you got to love about. That energize the bunny on both ends of the court. Every night is one of the reasons why he will always, always be in conversation is one of the better players that ever played the point guard position. Yeah. And it's hard, as you start, if you're a really athletic player and you don't work on other aspects of your game when you lose athleticism.
Starting point is 00:50:28 See, Yokic is going to be able to play for a long time because he don't really rely on athleticism. Yolkich is not trying to outrun anybody. He's not trying to outjump anybody. So he's got some years. He's going to play. Hey, and I said this when I said, look, when it's all said and done,
Starting point is 00:50:44 there's going to be some rearranging at the top of the chart. Yeah, he's not done he's going to win some more MVP's now he gets a couple of more championships We're going to have to have some discussions I look I understand that we love we just old guard We hate letting go of the old but what he's doing is just I mean he just had a 50 he just now he just had a 34 20 12 assist night oh after 56 15 and 15 At some point in time, we got to give this man credit. So he's going to be in your top five before I said it? I don't know top five, but he's a damn sure getting that top ten with a couple of more championships. Yeah, okay.
Starting point is 00:51:30 Because he's going to have MVP's. He's going to get another one, maybe two. You're watching it. Yeah. You're watching. You're watching greatness. Nobody's been able to have this kind of package, not an offensive package. Now, is he, can he play defense?
Starting point is 00:51:47 No, he leaves a lot to be desired. But we've never seen nobody that could score the ball like he can, rebound the ball, and facilitate the offense like him. We've never seen anything like that. Oh, show time for my prize picks, player fade. He's the bathroom real quick. Go ahead. Trey McBride, 77.5.
Starting point is 00:52:23 So he means to have 77 receiving yards against Cincinnati. They're at Cincinnati, too. They got a feeding. in Detroit any chance for them to win they're going to have to feed McBride so I'm going to say you know what I'm going to say more I'm going to say more
Starting point is 00:52:43 Trevor Lawrence more than 249 yards passing against Indy well he had that against the Broncos and I think our defense is better than the Broncos so yep more Sam Darnel
Starting point is 00:52:57 1.5 TDs against Carolina yes more yes yeah for sure Ocho here There's a good one. Tyler shook more than 223 pass yards against Tennessee.
Starting point is 00:53:11 Well, hey, I'm going to say yes because when I talked about Tyler shook not being the answer for the for the Saints in the future, the entire fan base said yes he is. So obviously I'm expecting him to look like a starting quarterback to look like the franchise quarterback and throwing for 220 yards should be a yes. So I'm going with goddamn yes. Okay. Well, we're going more with Tyler shook. That's it, Tray McBride, 77 yards against your bingles. Trevor Lawrence, more than 249 yards against Indy. Sam Darnal will have at least two touchdown passes against Carolina, Jackson, Smith, and Jigba.
Starting point is 00:53:47 Get that by himself. And Tyler Shook to have at least 223 pass yards against the Tennessee Titans. $25 to win, $150. Download the app today. Use Coach Shannon to get $50 in lineups when you play your first $5 lineup. Prize picks is good to be right. All right, Ocho, we're going to get you out on this one. It's time for our final segment of the evening.
Starting point is 00:54:12 It's time for Q and A. Hey. Uh, age bell, oh, G. Did y'all already supposed schedule the NFL release for Christmas next year? No, I didn't see that. Christmas is on Friday next year. I mean, what is he asking? Did they release a Christmas schedule for next year?
Starting point is 00:54:45 No, people are there on being two Christmas, Friday night, Saturday night, Sunday night, yes. Oh, oh, you're excited about that. Christmas on Friday, 26. I can imagine the NFL will have a Thursday night game, a Friday night game, a Saturday night game, a Sunday night game, and a Monday night game. You're absolutely correct.
Starting point is 00:55:04 Yes, five straight days of NFL football. Can't wait. Kepernard what you say? Oh, my question is, is there a New Year's Eve club shay-shay episode this year? New Year's Eve, that's Wednesday, right? Yeah. Huh? Yes.
Starting point is 00:55:24 Oh, yeah. We'll have one. Hold on. I can't give them too many Wednesdays out. They'll be expecting to be taking Wednesday off all the time. Kemp a damn. Hold on. So, hold on, hold on.
Starting point is 00:55:34 So the night the ball dropped, we're on nightcap? Yep. Okay, okay, okay, okay. You know, hey, you know, with that ball to drop, because you know, 2026. Okay. Yeah, I'm going to be in the Bahamas. You know, you know, I love to go to see Junk of New Year,
Starting point is 00:55:55 so I'm going to be ready. I'm going to be ready. I'm going to be ready. I'm be ready. LBL OG for the Packers fans. Does the offense look better with Malik or Jordan? Don't do that. Don't, come on, that.
Starting point is 00:56:10 Don't, don't do that. Listen, Malik looked good tonight. He did. The future of the Packers is in Jordan Love. Let's not do that. You know, he had a good game tonight against the Ravens. They lost the game, but George Love is the quarterback for the Green Bay Packers. Don't, don't do that.
Starting point is 00:56:26 Every time you see someone have a good game, come on, Al. El Pray 99, hey, the spirit industry can be tough to navigate at times. Shade by La Portier helped shape your business, Ackman, and what has it talked to you about patients in your overall approach to life? It is very difficult because it's a three-tier system, you, the distributor, and the, you know, your ABC packaging, the, what's the big one did we go to?
Starting point is 00:56:54 No, what we just went to? Total wines. So because it's so, because it's, look, and it varies, state to state, different states have different laws, different distributors. It's really tough in the spirits industry is going kind of a little bit of correction right now. But yeah, it's tough and it teaches you patience because, you know, we have a product that's from overseas, cognac, in order for it to be called a cognac,
Starting point is 00:57:24 it has to originate the first two years in that region and, you know, to get it. And we haven't been impacted too much by it, but it's a spirit. It's really, really tough. Really, really tough. I've learned a lot about the spirits industry. Once I found out I was going to embark on this journey, you start reading about as much as you possibly can about how the product is made
Starting point is 00:57:47 and the different regular cognac and VSOPs and things of that nature, four to six years, eight to ten, so forth and so on. Patience is something that I'm not very good at, so you surround yourself with people that kind of know a little bit more about the business than you do, and you do what you do. and allow them to do what they do.
Starting point is 00:58:06 Me, what I know about, I know a hell of a lot about. What I don't, I'm willing to fall in the back and learn as I go. And that's how you have to be in the spirit's business because I didn't grow up in the spirit's business. I just got involved with the last, you know, five, six years
Starting point is 00:58:25 and you try to learn as much about it as you possibly can because it's your money that's being involved with it, Joe ZZJ HD 1 ZZ. Oh, I can't lie. Filetly wasn't big and sorry tonight. And those raven corners need fixing. They gave up big plays every single step. They did.
Starting point is 00:58:48 They did. Like I said, look, I thought he played well tonight also. You know, one play that got Derek Henry, but I thought he got his legs cut out from him, which is a penalty because now offensive line were getting injured, when defensive player was going low, taking out, trying to take the legs out from one of them. That should have been a penalty.
Starting point is 00:59:09 With that being said, I thought he played well tonight. But, yeah, the Ravens secondary, those corners need a lot to be desired, Ocho. They, oh, ooh, ooh, Wiggins. Yeah. He had a bad night tonight, but obviously throughout the entire of the season, as much as I've watched the Raven defensively,
Starting point is 00:59:28 I mean, I kind of like Nate. He went as high as he did for a reason, and he makes some plays. The night, and tonight just wasn't his night. Been a lot of those this year, Ocho. Jadub Akron is my birthday today, but I can't do itch. I got to work tomorrow.
Starting point is 00:59:44 The chat will have to turn up for me. My Steelers are grabbing that division title. Jadub, thank you for joining us. Happy birthday, bro. Yeah, hey, look, it's tough. We want to celebrate, but you got a priorities. Priority, you got to get that job, bro. You got to go make that brand.
Starting point is 00:59:59 And I understand it. I remember when I was in school in Cho and everybody would be having that when I was special when I was little elementary school and kids would have their birthday during the year and their parents would bring them cupcakes and celebrate lunch and everything like that everybody is way in June and I'm working in them hot-ass fields damn that's what I said but that ain't a bad thing huh because think about it working in them fields made you the man you are today
Starting point is 01:00:27 it absolutely did it absolutely did it wasn't no celebration wasn't no cake day we'll make you a birthday cake nah I was gonna be in I was gonna be in Joe Tatum's field Mr. Joe's field at 7 a.m.
Starting point is 01:00:40 Yes so and cropping tobacco that's what I was gonna be doing on my birthday for the better part or on somebody's cutting somebody's grass or landscaping you know
Starting point is 01:00:50 laying asphalt or somebody's damn hot-ass roof so I can empathize with you J. Dubb but happy birthday bro hopefully you had a great day before you had a great day before you had to go to work.
Starting point is 01:01:01 And tomorrow, on your day off, though, hey, turn up. Real Wolf had facts. Ravens beat the cheese. Oh, that boy, Ogden Ocho. Is it time to say my Ravens are better without Lamar? No. They're different without Lamar. You see, the thing is,
Starting point is 01:01:17 they don't run the ball. They don't give Derek Henry this many carriers with Lamar. Because you're paying the guy $50 plus million. You got, hey, I'm going to let him throw. Tonight, he had, what, he threw, like 20 passes, Ocho? Yeah. They ran the ball 50 times. What if they ran the ball 50 times with Lamar?
Starting point is 01:01:34 Mm-mm. So no. Let's not get carried away. Yeah, you take the ball at a Tyler Honey's hands, too, on purpose. Yes. Off the play call and changes, because it's not Lamar. So what do you do? Now you give it to goddamn Derek Henry 20, 30 times a goddamn game.
Starting point is 01:01:54 You know what? The thing is that I think I love most about Tom Brady. is that New England, even though they knew what he was, they won the game how they won it. If we can run the ball with Winnebago, LaGarren Blunt, we're going to run the ball. If we can run the ball with Cory Dillon, we're going to run the ball.
Starting point is 01:02:15 I know Tom Brady can throw for 300 yards, but that's not how we're going to win it. Sometimes I think coaches and coordinators get him like, hey, man, we got this guy back here, we're playing them all this money. I don't care nothing about that. I'm trying to win this game. We'll save his ass for another day.
Starting point is 01:02:33 Day, yes, so. But today, let's run the football. All it is having to feel for the game, huh? What's working on today? You know, sometimes what you worked on during the week and the game playing you came with and you notice is not working the first quarter, you make goddamn adjustments.
Starting point is 01:02:49 Yep. You make the adjustments, you go to something else. Joe said, gee, can I get a happy birthday, happy Earth Day, day shot? out um appreciate all you do for us on this platform nightcap with hashtag nightcap Vegas on yes joe happy birthday um hopefully you did something fun hopefully you were family friends and loved ones and he got an opportunity to really really appreciate because there are a lot of people that got called home and they didn't get an opportunity to celebrate didn't
Starting point is 01:03:17 make it this far until 2025 so you got to feel fortunate and everybody that made it thus far still have use of your limbs you had the blood running warm in your veins and you woke up this morning because there are some people that had an appointment they couldn't reschedule you was one of the few that you say you know what he said i touched you so i'm allowed you to see another day so be thankful happy birthday joel eagle fan 78 what's up unc an uncho love y'all ohcho pay yet no uh don't keep dodger just tell unc he ain't getting his money uh i would never count on it could never count on it sadly i ain't counting on it he already told me that once uh As long as he owe me, I'll never be broke.
Starting point is 01:03:59 But I feel broke. No, you're good, you're good, we're good, we good. One thing, one thing. God don't make no mistakes now, you know? Yeah, he made the mistake. What I bet you. That was the mistake. I was foolish enough to bet you.
Starting point is 01:04:15 Two a girls cup. Texans got gifted to win. Eagle liquor contact my, you know what. Both receivers on the left side ran pick routes to draw a penalty. Yeah, it happens sometimes, bro. It happens sometimes. Steelheads 477. Tomorrow Steelers beat the Browns in the hat and t-shirt game.
Starting point is 01:04:37 Tonight, Ravens win will be for naught. Let's go Steelers. Look, it's a division game and anything can happen in a division game. We'll see how it plays out. Miles Garrett is going to really try to get that sack, and Steelers do not want to be a part of that record. Steelers don't want to be a part of that record.
Starting point is 01:04:55 So they don't have two guys. on him, but I'm hopefully Miles Garrett can get one. Hopefully can get two. He's going to get it. He's definitely getting it. I'm hoping. Jay Wilson, I'm a truck driver and want a girl to love and appreciate for the entertainment you provide
Starting point is 01:05:13 to us truck drivers. My question is who would you want to play you in a movie about your life? Oh, that's easy. Play me. If anybody was to do a do a docket series or a documentary about me, it got to be either Tyrese or ASAP, ASAP, ASAP Rocky.
Starting point is 01:05:29 Yeah, I was going to say ASAP, Rocky, or Tyrese, yeah. Yeah, oh, yeah. I'm trying to say, who could play. I guess that Terry Cruz is going to have to grow some hair. Oh, yeah, that'd be a good one. T. Cruz, that's the only one I can think about. That's the only one that off the top of my head
Starting point is 01:05:51 that really jumps to mind. Because he's athletic enough, actually played football. So hey, large eater, I was just on a cruise carnival and a guy asked the bartender if they had La Portier. La Portier would grow crazy on cruise ships looking to it. Also, for the Pott Olympics, have a buffalo wing eating contest.
Starting point is 01:06:11 Love you guys. I mean, Ocho, no, a big eaters. Nah, we don't want to eat, we don't want to do the mind. We want to compete, man. We want to compete in activities where it takes this, the mind and skill competitive stuff man you don't want to be no eating oh yeah we let jonathan majors can play me ocho oh that that's another good one yeah yeah yeah yeah okay thank you for that we're gonna try to get laporteur on the cruise ships chiquito marino
Starting point is 01:06:46 oh what's up uncho love y'all i love the show can c j strive prevent the texas from going or deep playoff run not saying he's bad but he's questionable at times yeah And, hey, you saw the two horrible turnovers that he had. Yes. That defense is, the defense is Super Bowl caliber. Yeah, absolutely. It absolutely is. They're good, that defense is good enough.
Starting point is 01:07:08 The question is, if he runs up against somebody that has an offense that can get to, let's just say, Ocho, they get out to the lead of Buffalo. Who is, Jacksonville. We'll be, we'll see how the Jags and them loot, the Bronx. it's going to be very interesting because pressure he hasn't been good with pressure but we'll see
Starting point is 01:07:33 Chiquito Maria Maria says free jetter hey either free him or get him a quarterback one or the other Kylie 1, 2, 3, 4 it's like when Wince went down
Starting point is 01:07:51 and Nick took over we ended up going to the Super Bowl So who got injured that's taking over somebody that you expect to get that you guys going to go to the Super Bowl? I don't, I don't think they, do they remember that team, the actual team they had? Oh, yeah, they were loaded. It was loaded on both sides of the ball. Yep. Shook for Roy.
Starting point is 01:08:16 Uncle Cho, I hope you had a good holiday with family and friends. Should the Giants draft or build around Tyler Shook? It's going to be interesting to see what they're going to do. Have they seen enough? Have Kellen Moore seen enough? Does he believe that he has his quarterback that they can fill in other slots around and get this thing better?
Starting point is 01:08:39 Maybe a corner, maybe another wide receiver because you don't have to draft pick because you gave up Shaheed. So you got a draft pick there. So maybe an offensive lineman. Running back, Ocho? I don't think command. is back next year? No.
Starting point is 01:09:00 Dom Neuch, 21, 2751, losing between the Raiders and Giant get the first pick. Yeah, that's probably why they took Max Travis told him to go home. You don't want to mess up their first pick. The Sean underscore show,
Starting point is 01:09:15 what's the Lungadocho? What's the best Super Bowl? What's the best team in the NFL not to win the Super Bowl? like the Eagles with Vic, McCoy, D. Jack, and Jeremy Macklin. They also have Vince Young on that team. Well, the best team not winning the Super Bowl is the Patriots in 2007.
Starting point is 01:09:34 Ooh, that's that 17 and old season? Yes. It was 18 and 1. 18 and 1, yeah. That's crazy. And Cap a lot, I'm not saying they will, but if the Texans end up losing earlier, do y'all think people will say Stroud, the old line,
Starting point is 01:09:51 D'Amico Ryan is the problem? Demico Ryan definitely is not the problem I think he's done a great job of building this team and turning this team around he's not afraid to make tough decisions you remember last year I think they moved on from the offensive coordinator after the great rookie year that
Starting point is 01:10:06 CJ Stroud have so Demico Ryan is not the problem old lines are a little shaky but C.J. Stroud is going to have to do he's going to have to perform better under duress and that's where you make it. Bro, you're not going to have no clean pocket the whole game. No. You're going to have to make tough throws
Starting point is 01:10:21 with people in your face and hanging on your body. Ms. Patrice, Max Crosby trade talk sounds good for y'all, but I can bet you and promise he'll be not leave the Raiders. He bleeds silver and black, and everybody hates it. Get over, chat. Let me ask you a question.
Starting point is 01:10:41 You think Tom Brady wanted to lead the Patriots? You think Peyton Manning wanted to lead the Colts. So you tell me is Max Crosby bigger than either one of them? Emmett Smith left the Cowboys. Jared Rice, West, left the 49ers. Bruce Smith left the Buffalo Bills. Now, you tell me of the players I named, which one is Max Crosby bigger than?
Starting point is 01:11:01 Randy Balls, left Minnesota, left New England, left the Raiders. Which one of the players that I just named, Ocho, do you believe Max Crosby is bigger than? I don't think people can't get past being a fan of a player and a team. They can't get past that. They don't understand the business side of things. They just see great players. This is my team.
Starting point is 01:11:21 Okay, he's not going nowhere. That's not the way it works. What about Joe Montana? Okay. But thanks, Ms. Patrice. Past dubbed, last year you kept giving the Ravens, coach, and staff the solution to the problem.
Starting point is 01:11:41 But King Henry and the eye, I hope tonight it was a good reminder. Baddell, listen. I don't know if they get, well, they got to turn their phones off 90 minutes, so they don't see. But you see, what was he doing, Ocho? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:54 It wasn't no offset. They put a Richard in motion. Yeah. They hand it to him or they tossed it to him. One of the other. Let him come down here. Real Chris Moore just watched Elway Doc. Why does John Elway get overlooked as a top quarterback ever?
Starting point is 01:12:12 He's top five. What's your favorite John Elway story? Got something interesting for you. I just sought down with him and we got that interview coming out next week so he'll tell you some of the favorite stories. Oh, John. But y'all heard what he said.
Starting point is 01:12:29 Who's the leader in the locker room? Y'all heard that, right? Did you hear that documentary? Yeah. So anything that I say can be confirmed. Yes, so. But anyway. Cammy Cam, Crosby already said
Starting point is 01:12:40 the only team he played for is the Lions. He respects Dan Campbell, born and Bearer, played in Eastern Michigan, come home, Max. I know what he said, but he don't hold his rights. The Raiders do.
Starting point is 01:12:53 And they can trade it wherever they get the best deal. I know, boy, can you imagine him and Hutch? Ooh, yeah. Oh, Lord, that's not. That ain't Phil. But also, I don't know how you fit that under the cap because you got one guy making 50. You got the two wide receivers making big money.
Starting point is 01:13:10 You got Penae Soo making big money. You got Hutch making big money. They gave Joseph big money. They're going to have to do something with Jack Campbell. Yeah, and listen, you gave McNeil all this money, although he hasn't played up to expectations coming off that injury. You got Muhammad, are you going to let Muhammad go? What is Muhammad in?
Starting point is 01:13:31 Hey, and you hear what they say because the player says, I wouldn't want to play for anybody else but that. I mean, you take that with a grand assault. That's that's just, that's, that's talk. That's, that's talk. That's like when somebody say, well, anytime you in the city, just come on, come on by my house, you know, just stop by. They don't really mean that.
Starting point is 01:13:50 Exactly. Just conversation. Hey, yeah, call me when you come to town. Yeah. You call me. Yeah. Come on, man. Come on, man.
Starting point is 01:13:58 I call you. You call? Man, I must have been out of town. Hey, remember the episode with Martin? Yeah. When, um, got Varnell, Barnel Hill. Barnel told him, boy, if you were in,
Starting point is 01:14:10 you ever in LA, come on by the show. God damn Martin showed up anyway. Uh, MC Robinson, I recently watched John Elway's document on Netflix. Tell us what the reaction of Super Bowl where Elway went to the helicopter, the first down. I remember that. That was a good play.
Starting point is 01:14:32 Man, we called it, we had that play called Slice. And, oh, Cho, I'll figure it's money because they tell us, man, courage. So guess what? I start in three hard, hey, push up, three hard steps, uncovered. Called it three times. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:45 Called it Wednesday, Thursday, practice. Running in the Red Zone. Oh, there's going to be money. But John always asked Mike, okay, what if we don't get this coverage? Mike and Gary told John, we took this playoff 50 times this formation, they played this coverage. Okay. So John asked him, well, if they don't play this coverage, you're going to have to make a play. But they're going to play this coverage.
Starting point is 01:15:15 Guess what? They didn't play that coverage. They didn't play that coverage, and John had to go make a play. Yeah. And he knows he can't slide because they're going to mark him where he starts to slide. Sure. So everybody's thinking that. So he's like, hey, Leroy coming from one side, prior coming from another side.
Starting point is 01:15:32 And I think Eugene Robinson, the only thing, the only play he can make was go over the top. Yeah. He was a little woozy. And he was like, he looked at the sideline. and everybody happy like yeah yeah I did it who I said yeah we were about to tell y'all ass up uh nino rogers 89 uh and they're drunk knocking over ish I ain't knock over nothing Eagle fan 78 when is another tour when is new merch uh new tour we're thinking about spring we got to you know summer summer ass said summer damn I ain't gonna get no
Starting point is 01:16:14 break this summer. Hey, hold on. Hey, we going to Houston, huh? There you, Ocho, Ocho. What? Ocho, we can't Ocho, we don't need to go there. I know, listen, I know we don't need to go there, but listen, if it's a business, it's a business, like the tour, you said
Starting point is 01:16:30 we were going to Houston, that's what you told me. Man. You know they love us down there, Houston. Yeah, we're good, we good. Boy, have you used to like Jimmy Swagger had him on that Sunday morning, Father, I've seen. I don't know before your time, but y'all going to look it up, man. Oh, Jimmy Swagger.
Starting point is 01:16:57 Man, they used to have, I remember, you remember they used to have Jimmy Swagger, Rex Humbard. They used to have like four or five shows that came on TV. I'm talking about, like, every Sunday. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. B.P. A2 Customs, long time listener, took shots for my birthday and got stopped past the sobriety steps and still got arrested for DUI. I'm the only income with a wife and a 10-month-baby. I'm asking for prayers with no stable income with my CDL now gone. Hold on. Do you shot for my birthday. Got stopped. Past the sobriety test. Well, you're going to get, I mean, look, you're going to get off. You didn't blow no point eight. Anything under that? You're good.
Starting point is 01:17:43 Tell him, I say let you go. Free customs. I'm GLN for real. Happy holidays to Uncan Ocho. Happy holidays to you. Hopefully whatever you celebrate, it was joyous. Dog born, Ocho, would you take Flores over Taylor in Sensing? Taylor's an offensive guy.
Starting point is 01:18:10 Flores a defensive guy. They don't have defensive players to implement the system that he want to run. No, I wouldn't. I said that earlier, based on where he goes, as long as he has the players to be able to run that complex
Starting point is 01:18:23 and aggressive system that he has, then yes. Brandon Daniels, Damon Williams, plays Ocho in the last boy scott, part two. Ricardo Lozo, 4402. What's up, my dogs? I'm in the doghouse
Starting point is 01:18:43 with my dog. my girlfriend, man, let me ask, let me, uh, let her know to give me some slack. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, rich, you ain't let us know what you did. It's all the pins. I mean, I mean, what you do. We need to know that. Woo. And that would, and that will, uh, uh, allow us to know.
Starting point is 01:19:07 Hey, the better assess how much, yeah, better assess the situation. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, hey, my car acting up, okay? If it, he, he, he, he, he, he, or you got to give me something, let me know what going on, oh, Cho, you can't say my car acting up and don't give me anything. Hey, hey, boy, that dog house ain't done, ain't nothing good, boy, ain't nothing fun, boy. Go Bird's 800, hey, oh, Jordan Davis is about to destroy
Starting point is 01:19:36 whoever lines up against him in the trenches. He shouldn't have been snubbed. I 1,000% agree. Absolutely. He played well enough this season to earn that Pro Bowl birth. Thank you guys for joining us for another episode of Nightcap. Y'all know me. I'm your favorite of Shannon Sharp,
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Starting point is 01:21:46 performance. The Houston, Texas, got into the playoffs thanks to a 2016 victory on the road against the charges. C.J. Straub 16 or 28, 244, two touchdowns, two interceptions, but they win a close hard fought ball game, 20 to 16, and in losing the charges, the Broncos win the AFC West. Now, if the Broncos beat the charges next week, they, will be the number one seed heading into the playoffs and get a first round by. If not, we'll see what happens. They can still be the number one seed
Starting point is 01:22:20 if Jacksonville loses tomorrow to end it. So again, thank you for guys for joining us for another episode of Nightcap. We'll see you tomorrow after the San Francisco, who 49th place? Bears, Sunday night game. Thank you guys. I'm Unc. He's Ocho.
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