Club Shay Shay - Nightcap - Hour 2: Juvenile stops by, Jayden Daniels, Pacman Jones

Episode Date: February 9, 2025

From Radio Row and the Mahalia Jackson Theater in New Orleans, Unc and Ocho recap the Best moments from Super Bowl Week. Top stories include New Orleans native and rap legend Juvenile stops by, Washin...gton Commanders QB and ROTY Jayden Daniels joins the guys on Radio Row, Adam "Pacman" Jones weighs in on the Eagles vs. Chiefs and much more!03:48 - Would y’all want Juvenile to collab with Ocho?11:00 - Jayden Daniels joins the show19:11 - Greg Olsen breaks down his approach to color commentary24:42 - Unc and Ocho grant some wisdom to Michael Pittman Jr.28:19 - Jalen Milroe joins the show31:00 - Pacman looks ahead at the Super Bowl matchup33:42 - Shawne Merriman predicts the Super Bowl is going to come down to the trenches39:15 - Ocho and James Harrison are gonna fight? Joey Porter tries to keep the peace54:00 - Fred Warner joins the show1:01:00 - Ocho is joined by some Bengals—Ted Karras and Alex Cappa1:06:00 - Denzel Ward discuss Browns, matchups, and more(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:04:46 I know when they see you in the airport and they see you on the street, they talk about 400 degrees. Yeah. Oh man, oh, this is crazy, man. You know, I get some ill stories sometimes when I bump into people, you know, and one of the main things I get from some of the people,
Starting point is 00:05:03 they say, man, you raised me. Like, man, I don't know your mama, man. Yeah, right. You got me through some hard times, you know, and, you know, I tell them all the time when I see them, I say, hey, man, I'm glad I could be of service to you, man. But 400 degrees for just like it is in New Orleans for a lot of people, they say, man, it was an inspiration for me to do something in life. So glad to be there for him. Listen, Cash Money, bro. Cash Money Records, bro, was a powerhouse
Starting point is 00:05:36 in the 90s and 2000s, bro. We grew up on that. Should you raise me? You know, when I think about it? I'm just being honest. Man, what is it like being a part of such a revolutionary label, bro? It's crazy, man. You know, we was in the studio making them songs. You know, we didn't see ourself being, I know I didn't.
Starting point is 00:05:56 I didn't see ourself being, you know, around this long, 20 plus years. And man, it's one of them situations where you see a little bros popping off. You know, you had your you had your shine and then you see Wayne pop off you see BG pop off And it's like damn man. We really we really you know we really made it you know and and and now The city still showing love yes, yeah When you were in the studio, did you know? At the time what you guys were doing? Did you think it was like, man, these are classic. These are going to stand the test of time. And probably did you ever think that's a two part question.
Starting point is 00:06:37 Obviously, when you have that and everybody can stand their own, did you think you guys like, damn, we probably won't be together much longer because we each guy can stand on his own. And yeah, we're doing this we probably ain't gonna be together much longer because we hey each guy can stand on his own and yeah we doing this together but this ain't gonna last much longer. When we got together man you know you know Cash Money did a overhaul they had a lot of artists on the label and then you know when I got there the first thing they told me is it's gonna be you you know it's you Turk, BG and Wayne. So when we start hitting them studios and we start making them songs, we had no idea of, you know, what the people, what the reaction would be, you know,
Starting point is 00:07:14 but when we started doing them tools and that money start coming in, you know, you know what I'm saying? The Cash Money Rough Rider tools and stuff like that. Yeah, that's, I started seeing a few things then I started saying, well, man, I hope everybody getting paid right. You know?
Starting point is 00:07:31 So, I started worrying about my money too. So, yeah. Hey, who are your, I got you on. Who were your biggest inspirations when you were coming up? And who inspires you now? So when you was coming up? And who inspires you now? So when you was coming up before you started popping off and y'all were bored, who inspired you? Especially from your own culture?
Starting point is 00:07:51 Good question, man. I listen to everybody. I was one of them cast that liked to listen to hip hop, period. But my main influence was Ice Cube. Ice Cube was that guy from me. You know, when N.W.AWA came out, Gangsta Gangsta, and everybody from the city could tell you,
Starting point is 00:08:09 when Gangsta Gangsta came out, that changed the way everything in New Orleans, everything, homie, I mean. And Ice Cube was always that dude for me. Who inspire you right now? That's in the game. Somebody that you look at and be like, you know what, that he the one.
Starting point is 00:08:24 He one of them. Man, I got a few of them right now. It's this guy sitting next to you, man. that you look at and be like, you know what? That he the one, he wanted him. Man, I got a few of them right now. It's this guy sitting next to you, man. I'm inspired by him, the transition. You know, I'm in the transition of my life where I'm getting ready to do a podcast. I'm, you know, I see how y'all, I see how you're picking up all these awards.
Starting point is 00:08:39 And I'm inspired by that, man. And my other inspiration is E-40. You know, the way that he took the rap game and started branding himself. I see you with your La Porte. I got my yak. I got, everybody down here knows I'm branding myself all the time.
Starting point is 00:08:56 I got juvie juice. I got chips. I got papers. You know what I'm saying? I got a few things. And my inspiration right now probably wouldn't be somebody that's in the rap game right now
Starting point is 00:09:05 It's catch that that was around back in my day Let me ask you this Weasy was the youngest. Did you know that he was gonna grow up to do what he's become? We did bro You listen to blink blink your bird man see in a year 2000 and we ain't gonna tear the game up We that's how we felt we always knew you know Wayne mom, you know, Wayne mom wouldn't let them curse So we had to water it down We had to like he should come in there with some songs and like I said, but you can't say that bro
Starting point is 00:09:39 The kids like you can't say that so we knew then some of the stuff he was saying then, like, damn, bro, when we take the cuffs off, God damn, he gonna, yeah. I mean, when he came up with Bling Bling. Say that again? Bling Bling. Yeah. Did y'all know that was gonna be an anthem because everybody started talking,
Starting point is 00:09:59 hey bro, you need that bling. Wayne was making so many sound effects. You know, that was his trick too, you know. I come in the studio talking stupid, like, look, I'm about to mess, I don't care what you got, I'm about to mess over you. Wayne come back with sound effects. Brrrr, bop in.
Starting point is 00:10:13 So Wayne was always the one to kill me on the song, man. But yeah, man, I didn't know Blink Blink was going to be something, especially not a word in the dictionary. Wayne was always creative, bro, man, I didn't know bling bling was gonna be something not especially not a word in the dictionary Right Wayne was always creative, but beyond I couldn't I can't explain it, bro I can't explain in the beginning dude used to have me laughing the fact that he was so young and he was he was like a An adult and a kid body some of the things you knew I'm like, bro. How the hell you knew that Okay Amazing bro real smart to real smart to real book smart, too the kid body, some of the things you knew. I'm like, bro, how the hell you knew that?
Starting point is 00:10:45 Like, amazing, bro. Real smart, too, real smart, too, real book smart, too. Yeah. If there was an artist right now that you could collaborate outside of me. Ha ha ha! Somebody like somebody. You can spit like that, dog!
Starting point is 00:10:58 Oh yeah, I can rap like that. You can spit right. Yeah, I spit like that, yeah. You got rhymes, dog. Yeah, you wanna hear it? Oh, okay. No, raps though. You wanna hear it? No? Well forget y'all. Anyway, if there was an artist you could collab with today,
Starting point is 00:11:11 who would it be? Right off the top, off the top of my head. Yeah, just off the top, somebody that's active right now. It's Glorilla, for a whole bunch of reasons. That's a good one. Yeah. That's a good one. For a whole bunch of reasons too. Yep.
Starting point is 00:11:24 I just feel like Glorilla fit that whole hot girl thing that I've been talking about, that we was talking about years ago. Yeah. You know, I'm from the projects. Yeah. She just feel like somebody is from the hood. Oh, you say Glorilla?
Starting point is 00:11:35 Yeah, Glorilla. Oh yeah, Glow, Glow, Glow, oh man. Let her cook. Yeah, she make it look like that. We're joined by a very, very special guest. Barry. He and his mom, they're promoting a Vizalign. They both did the treatment.
Starting point is 00:11:48 Jayden Daniels, who's gonna be the runaway rookie of the year after an outstanding season. He did something very, very unique that very few rookies have ever done. He's led his team to two road playoff wins as the de facto leader. He wasn't relying on his defense. They put a lot on his plate and he ate everything.
Starting point is 00:12:07 I expect to see big things from this young man in the future. Congratulations on a great season, Jaden. Tell us about the treatment that you and your mom did with Invisalign. Man, I mean the main thing for me, you know, it's appearance. You gotta have your smile.
Starting point is 00:12:22 Okay, so you have them on now, right? I do have them on right now. I do have them on right now. Okay, okay. I do have them on right now, but for me, I mean, I have braces and stuff like that, so it wasn't, my teeth were always straight. It was like, man, let me enhance this more. Right.
Starting point is 00:12:32 So, I mean, just to partner with Invisalign, man, the appearance of everything. Everybody look at your teeth, everybody look at your smile. First thing they notice, bro. That's how you get that money. I have a question. I wanna transition into football. Do you understand how special what you've done
Starting point is 00:12:48 for organization that has had chaos, turmoil, and they haven't been at the depths of the bottom of the NFL, but they've always been in situations that weren't in favor of them in general. You understand you turned the organization around in one season. There's been no maturation, there hasn't been no steady progress or progression to them
Starting point is 00:13:07 turning things around. You came in in one year and literally turned a franchise around. Yeah, I think you understand that. I think I think I'm kind of getting the grass to that. I didn't know how this is real talk. I didn't know how passionate Washington fan base was like me growing up because you never seen like them at the top. I mean, you seen like the RG three years,
Starting point is 00:13:27 stuff like that. But when I really got there, I was like, when I got drafted, people were like, man, I'm a Washington fan. I was like, I ain't never like heard them like say that. Right, right, right, right. But now I'm excited to see everybody DMV, everybody around the world, you know,
Starting point is 00:13:40 bringing out their Washington stuff, going out there, grabbing out the basement and hanging the flags up and everything. So they excited. Like watching you play, and if their Washington stuff, going out there, grabbing out the basement, hanging the flags up and everything. So they excited. Like watching you play. And if you're a fan, if you're a commander's fan, you understand, with a quarterback like yourself, what you were able to do in a rookie year,
Starting point is 00:13:54 where there hasn't been no room for development. You know, most of the day you wait for rookies to develop, you know? And then you know, you see you have a chance. But you give a team hope for the next decade based off your play this season. And I commend you, I salute you, been but you give a team hope for the next decade based off your play this season. And I commend you, I salute you. Been a fan for a very long time, man.
Starting point is 00:14:09 But what you've done was special and not very many quarterbacks, especially as a rookie, have been able to come in and do what you've done. When you look at what you've done, the expectations now, you have to improve and build on what you've done. You can't become complacent
Starting point is 00:14:22 because you understand what is expected of you now. Only because they're talking about, man, this guy, who's to say he's not a top five quarterback as we sit here and speak currently? What does Jaden Daniels need to do to improve, to make sure this year wasn't a fluke? Man, I just think, like you said, don't get complacent. And I think the veterans that I had,
Starting point is 00:14:42 like one person I really lean on a lot is Bobby Wagner. Okay, he wags. So that's my guy, man. We have conversations. He just teach me little things. I remember like, shout out to him. I remember like we played a couple of games and a road game, we'll get back late.
Starting point is 00:14:58 You know, you're tired, everything. And he pulled me aside like, man, let's go get in these tubs. So we were up there like three o'clock in the morning, making sure your body's back right. But just little stuff like that. It's like never thinking that you know too much. There's always room to grow.
Starting point is 00:15:12 So I mean, outside you always get better technically and stuff like that. It's a blessing I get to be in the system that I was with Cliff for another year. So I can improve on that within that system, but just learning how to be a pro. You know, it's my first full all season. So I was like, okay, I got to figure out have a schedule like this.
Starting point is 00:15:31 What I'm gonna do is my Rambo period OTA stuff like that and just always out of the hunger to get better. How do you block out the noise because obviously there's gonna be a lot that comes along with what you've been able to do. Yeah, your quarterback in the NFL. We know what comes along with the most important position in all of pro sports. So now the endorsements are gonna come.
Starting point is 00:15:48 Now more fame, more adulation, more praise. Everybody, hey, Cubs, what's up? Everybody's a friend now. Everybody's a family member now. And as your mom says, she's like, look, I know the women are coming, but I'm high. Hey, my son got a high repose, I got one too. I'm still forming them all out the way.
Starting point is 00:16:05 How do you keep a level head and to understand that, yes, I understand what comes along with me, Jaden Daniels, but I don't get outside of who I am. Man, I just think it comes, like you said, support system, mom, dad, like friends, family. Everybody knows me for me and it's not here like, okay, let me ride his coattail and stuff like that. So that's a big part, but also this is the time
Starting point is 00:16:25 to play for everything. It's gonna be a time to have fun. It's gonna be a time to go out there and party, make some money, do this, that, and the third. But the main thing, man, none of this happen if you don't ball on the field. So that's the main thing, like, how do I get better to continue to success and knowing like,
Starting point is 00:16:41 all right, first year is that, like everybody's gonna have a full off season to watch a film for year two. So like, man, I gotta improve on different things and get better myself. Listen, when you talk about that improvement, right? You guys were able to make the NFC championship. What pieces to the puzzle do you think you guys need to add
Starting point is 00:16:58 to make your job a little easier? So the bulk or the weight of getting things done isn't always on your shoulders. Yeah, man, I think for us it is like, if you look at it, I think I've seen some, I, we got like 20 some free agents like that on the team. So I mean, we got, we got, we got to bring some people back. So I think overall, just in general, man, we got to, we got to get some people in and we got to bring people back. But I focus on my job, man. My job is to get better over. they bring in, we hone them to the standard that we set
Starting point is 00:17:27 with DQ and they're set and let the front office do what they do. Now I have a question. When we talk about letting the front office do what they do, I know it's very early in your career. Do you think you would have any say on who you bring in, especially from an offensive perspective, to be able to help you out?
Starting point is 00:17:40 I don't know yet. I think that time comes, we'll see if they call me. Yeah, okay. But I don't know, man. They're doing their job. Right. Like I told them, man, let's bring some dogs in. But I'm right here. If you need a dog, I'll let you play. When I look, go back and look at this NFC Championship game,
Starting point is 00:17:54 you guys have played well. And the one thing that you hadn't done until the championship game was turn the ball over. And you know, I'm sure DQ and WAGs have told you if you turn the ball over in the playoffs, you pay double. You had four of those things. How differently do you believe the game would have been had you taken better care of the football?
Starting point is 00:18:10 Because you guys were right there until you had those consecutive turnovers. I think it came down to the wire. I think it came down to whoever had the ball last. Obviously, like you said, turnovers, especially in the playoffs, man, play a huge factor. I mean, we turned the ball over against Philly in the regular season five times and won the game.
Starting point is 00:18:28 But in the playoffs, you know, it's different, man. It's a different type of beast when you're in the playoffs. You're on the road. So obviously you're playing, there's a crowd, playing the atmosphere and man, they got dogs over there. They got superstars. Okay, this game right here, you got the two time defending champ,
Starting point is 00:18:44 Kansas City Chief led by Patrick Mahomes and Andy Reed. You got the Eagles in your division. You played them three times this year. This is their second time back in three years. How do you see this game shaping up and who you have winning? I think it's gonna come down to whoever got the ball last. I think so.
Starting point is 00:19:00 I think obviously Saquon and what they do, J-Hertz. You got AJ Brown. And then on the other side, man, you got Pat. So it's harder bet it gets Pat, man. Especially he's been here. But I think it's who could create more turnovers, who could create more negative plays on the side of the ball. And I think it will come down to the end.
Starting point is 00:19:19 So for me, I think it's harder bet it gets Pat. I can't see, you know, rightfully so. I mean, I love playing the Eagles. Right. They're in the division, but I think it's harder to bet against Pat. I can't see, you know, rightfully so. I mean, I love playing the Eagles. They're in the division, but I think it's hard to bet against Pat. Man, I really appreciate you, man. The legendary, already icon, commander's quarterback, Jaden fucking Daniels.
Starting point is 00:19:37 Baby, I appreciate you. Appreciate you. Appreciate you, man. Thanks for stopping by. He's repping the business line. Go out there and get your treatment. He and his mom are getting half the treatment done. They're very, very satisfied with the treatment. Thank you again, Jayden.
Starting point is 00:19:48 Mom, thank you for dropping him by. Thank you, I appreciate y'all. We're joined by Greg Olson, one of the great play-by-play guys, actually your color, not play-by-play, your color. One of the great color guys, young up and coming. When you, let me ask you this, forget football, what's been the biggest thing
Starting point is 00:20:06 from you to do, how were you able to become so good, so quick at doing this job, Greg? You know, it's funny when people ask me about it, you know, there's actually a lot of lessons that I learned, you know, from playing, right? Just routine, preparation, every Monday's a Monday, every Tuesday's a Tuesday, and leaning into a lot of those things
Starting point is 00:20:25 throughout the course of the week as a player, I didn't know any different, right? So when they said, all right, we got a game next Sunday and you're gonna call it, I just fell back to what I knew, which is study the game. I love watching football, I love asking questions, and you have to be very willing to be like, you know what, I don't know a lot about this.
Starting point is 00:20:42 I'm gonna find people who really know it and I'm gonna pick their brain. I'm gonna talk to great this. I'm gonna find people who really know it and I'm gonna pick their brain. I'm gonna talk to great coaches. I'm gonna talk to front office guys. I'm gonna talk to, you know, defensive coordinators. How do you put together your blitz package? Learn as many different aspects of the game. Organize it in your mind, organize your thoughts,
Starting point is 00:20:57 and then just lay out the game. Stay with the game, follow it, and try to do it in a way that is interesting, it's insightful, and try to add value. And I'm still learning. I don't try to do it in a way that is interesting. It's insightful and try to add value. And I'm still learning. I don't pretend to know it all, but I just love learning the craft of calling the games and, uh, it's been a great transition for me since I'm done playing. Listen, I've watched you transition obviously from playing the game to doing
Starting point is 00:21:17 play, play or call it color commentary. Like coaches, coaches say it obviously you're disciplined and you're worth that, that has allowed you to do so. Now I'm thinking about someone in my position who has never done anything of that magnitude. Is it possible in any way that I could probably learn if I can minimize my cursing a little bit, I can learn to do color commentary
Starting point is 00:21:38 or is that something you think I should stay away from? No, I think anybody can learn it, right? So the inherent, the underlying foundation of all that is guys who love football, guys who wanna continue can learn it, right? So the inherent, you know, the underlying foundation of all that is guys who love football, guys who wanna continue to learn it, guys who wanna continue to stay up with the trends and follow it and dive into it, anybody can do it, right? Then it's just communicating it in a little bit of a different setting.
Starting point is 00:21:57 Right, simplicity. And that was probably the biggest transition for me. I'm a talker. I love conversation. I could sit here with YouTube for three hours. We can talk about whatever, but that's not the broadcast. We have commercial breaks, we have referees, we have game breaks and you get 15 seconds.
Starting point is 00:22:16 That was probably the biggest thing is just the tempo and kind of the rhythm of the broadcast. Everyone has a lot to say. Can you say a little bit, make an impact, but also not overdo it? I think that's still the balance that I'm a lot to say. Can you say a little bit, make an impact, but also not overdo it? I think that's still the balance that I'm still trying to find. I think the biggest thing for me is what I've noticed
Starting point is 00:22:32 is you're talking about it as it's happening versus talking about something that's already happened or something that you perceive to happen. So like pre-game, post-game is entirely different than doing color because you're talking as it's happening. Yeah, and I think the battle, at least the way I try to do it is, I try not to tell you what you're seeing because you already see it.
Starting point is 00:22:54 I don't want to narrate the replay. I don't want to just talk over what you're already seeing. I think to most fans, I think fans nowadays are very educated. People are listening. They're listening to shows, they're listening to weekly and weekend stuff. Tell them why they're seeing it. Maybe take their eyes away from the ball. What led to this play being really successful?
Starting point is 00:23:17 What led to this read or this wide receiver route? It was a pick, but did the receiver not get flat enough on his inside break and stick route? Take people into the why the thought process. That's the part I enjoy the most. Everyone can see it was a nice catch. Right. Everyone can see it was a sack. Why?
Starting point is 00:23:36 Right. Tell us why and what the counter is going forward. That's the game that I think is the fun part to lay out. It's Julie Stewart-Banks. I'm doing a new podcast from iHeart Podcasts and the National Hockey League. And I'm paired up with one of my favorite players, the always quotable Nate Thompson. I wore nine NHL sweaters and I have story after story to share. And believe it or not, I have plenty to say and not just about hockey. Believe me, he does.
Starting point is 00:24:03 Energy Line with Nate and JSB is the name of the podcast and it's gonna be, well, it's gonna be quite the ride. We're officially line mates, Nate. We're the Energy Line. We'll have plenty of folks join us, current players, some of my former teammates, Hall of Famers, and wait to see some of the connections that Julie has. She has quite the Rolodex.
Starting point is 00:24:23 Okay, we'll lean into Nate's playing experience and tap into our interests away from hockey and try to do what Energy Lines are supposed to do, provide an emotional boost. How do you feel about all that, Nate? I'm vibing, Julie, I'm ready to roll. Listen to Energy Line with Nate and JSB on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts,
Starting point is 00:24:42 or wherever you get your podcasts. What's going on everybody? This is Justin Penick from Jonboy Media, the host of the Football Today podcast alongside Bobby Skinner and Chris Rose. We're rolling three times a week on Mondays, on Wednesdays, on Fridays, breaking down everything you need to know about the NFL. We're talking about the MVP race. Is Josh Allen going gonna pull it out?
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Starting point is 00:27:05 Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Joining us now, Nightcap, Michael Pittman Jr. Hey, sir, sorry. I'm rumbling around here. Here we go. Bro, how you doing? Good. You good? Appreciate y'all.
Starting point is 00:27:28 Congratulations on a great season, individually. Not the season that you wanted to have team-wise. What do you guys need to do in order to have success when you're in the playoffs or you're contending for a championship? Yeah, I mean, that's a really, really tough question. But wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Be honest. Don really, really tough question, but. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, be honest.
Starting point is 00:27:47 Don't be politically correct. Not here. Okay, okay. Be straight up, like we in the barbershop now. Yeah, all right. So we have to have those tough conversations as you know, like just like as men, right? And we need to call guys up, right?
Starting point is 00:28:04 Like just like not like calling them out. I just like call them up to like our standards. We need more, we expect more. Yeah, and that starts with everybody. Like that starts with me. That starts with every single person. And we just gotta find ways to close that gap because there's so many games that like, you know,
Starting point is 00:28:22 like just like we were so close and we just let it slip. Now I got a question. Now you speak about that gap, right? And obviously everyone's goal at the beginning of the season is you want to compete to be in San Francisco this year coming up next year, obviously. What gaps do you think need to be filled in from an acquisition standpoint, offensively or defensively
Starting point is 00:28:42 that can help you guys get to that end goal? Honestly, I think that we have a lot of our core guys. Right. And like before, I can focus on anybody else. Like, I got to focus on everything that I got to do. Like, I didn't have my best season. I mean, now there are some things that happened, but just just like focusing like all myself, like I have to do things to produce in any type of situation, injury,
Starting point is 00:29:08 like just like, you know, like just like guys are like out there hurt too. So, so, you know. Okay. There was a lot made of the situation. I think it was the Texans game. Your quarterback scrambled. He ended up taking himself out of the game.
Starting point is 00:29:20 I guess there was a team meeting. There were conversations that were had. The coach ended up benching in for a game, not a week, a couple of, he got benched one game, a couple of games, and then I think Black O'Field in or whomever came in for him. What was those conversations like? Because I'm telling you, as a player,
Starting point is 00:29:37 have been in a locker room, have been a leader, that's frowned upon when we feel a guy left us out there to try. Because the one thing is, it's kind of like, we adopted, it's kind of like we adopted, it's nothing compared to the military. So military folks, don't get me wrong. But it's like we leave no man behind.
Starting point is 00:29:50 It's that we're out here together, we're going to fight together, we're going to win together, we're going to lose together. But the one thing we're not going to do is leave the other guys behind. What was that conversation that you had to have with your quarterback? Because I believe he's going to be there
Starting point is 00:30:04 for an extended period of time, Michael P. McJunior. You know, you guys are going to need him. Yeah, we had a, so we actually had all of our team. So all of our team leaders from every single position group and we kind of had an hour long meeting and we talked about everything. Like it wasn't just centered around that. Like it was everybody.
Starting point is 00:30:27 But I think that was a good learning experience for him to know that that is not the standard and that he can't do that and stuff like that. So it's all just learning. And I think that he handled that period of time well because everybody was like crashing on him, right? So we saw him show up earlier. We saw him put in more work and like kind of do the things necessary to kind of earn everybody's trust back. Jaylen Milrow, former quarterback of the Alabama Crimson
Starting point is 00:31:00 Tide, who decided to give up his final year of eligibility to go into the NFL draft. Jalen, thanks for joining us. So what are you what are you ripping in? You're just here for the Super Bowl, but what's going on? What are you what are you what are you selling? Yeah, so I'm ripping uh Auto Trader. Okay. They made this event possible for me. So I'm coming from Orange County, California. Long day of travel. Yeah, that's a great opportunity to be here. Definitely inspired, you know, to understand where and why I'm here at the Super Bowl. You know, I'm inspired to achieve my next dream, which is during the draft process right now. So, you know, I'm representing Auditrater today. I got a question. This is not where you really want to be. You want to be
Starting point is 00:31:38 prepared for the game. This is the first time, so hopefully in the future, we don't see you back here again. Not at this time. Yeah, no doubt, no doubt. Thinking about it, how has the process been, getting ready for the draft? Yeah, so the best thing right now, I'm able to pour into myself right now, and invest in myself. One thing that's unique about the office
Starting point is 00:32:00 is there's no shot clock. So you have time to develop time to pour into things that you need to improve on. And so I'm around a lot of great people on where I'm at. I'm in Orange County with Jordan Palmer and Mike White. Jordan. Yeah. That's my backup man.
Starting point is 00:32:12 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So I'm with them right now. So it's been fun to build each and every day and find beauty in the process. Yeah. So what does Jalen Melrose need to work on
Starting point is 00:32:24 in order for him to get to the level of quarterback that he wants to be and know that he can be because obviously there's some things that you need to work on. There's no finished products coming into the draft. There's no finished products once you enter the draft, but what is the most important thing you feel you need to work on putting my body in the best way fast as far as efficiency to get to make every throw on the football field. Okay. That's number one number two two, the exposure to NFL, although I lack experience,
Starting point is 00:32:49 it's coming from watching tape. It comes from being in that system. And so during this process, I've been able to do that. We're going to the Reese Bowl. We're going and working with Jordan Palmer, being able to reflect on tape and acknowledge, you know, where the area of weaknesses to strength and why you're able to do that by playing. So, you know, where the area of weaknesses to strength and why you're able to do that by playing. So, you know, for me, the transformation of 2023 to 2024 being a first year starter, then my final season in college. And so just to expose a piece, number one, but also just having this off season to really narrow down, how can I put myself in the best way efficiently to make every throw on the football field? Because that's what's going to be needed when it comes to performing on Sundays,
Starting point is 00:33:28 but also playing on time, playing us upright and doing things the best way fashion so we can lead our offense to win. Back. What's up? Yeah. Oh, he ain't late this time. He late. Now he ain't late this time. He late? Nah, he ain't late this time.
Starting point is 00:33:46 All right, joining us on the nightcap set is Adam Pac-Man Joe. You go by Adam or you go by Pac? I go by Pac. You ain't never called me Adam? But we were told, like, when I was doing this on television, they said he don't want to be called Pac-Man anymore and he wants to be called Adam.
Starting point is 00:34:02 I say since when? I just saw it, this end in the barbershop a month ago and everybody was calling him Pac. Ain't nobody ever called him Adam. I don't know what Coach Marvin was thinking about when he said that to the media. I think that was a sum with him. That had nothing to do with me.
Starting point is 00:34:18 All right Pac, you're down here at the Super Bowl, you know the two teams that are in the Super Bowl, the Chiefs and the Eagles. How do you see this matchup playing out? I just, I can't, two teams are competitive, but Andy Reid having two weeks to prepare for this game, it is gonna be hard to beat Andy Reid. Andy Reid having a motherfucker wide open.
Starting point is 00:34:40 I mean, the other week when he had, they was in the trips formation to the right, single back, I mean, single receiver to the left side. He sent the two over in motion just to see what they was in. Man, then he ran a little play with the pick out the back. Tell me how the linebacker gonna make that play. He can't. There's no way.
Starting point is 00:34:58 You're not gonna make it. What's up, man, you late. No, just fucking. And they sat on this plate for the entirety of the game. They did. Not very, look, and I, Ocho and I talked about this. There are not very many coaches
Starting point is 00:35:12 in that situation is gonna throw the ball because you're gonna stop the clock. If that clock stops, now you give them an opportunity to get the ball back with a chance to go down and tie you or beat you. He says, Patrick, and we saw this last year against the Baltimore Ravens. He said, even Valdez Scanlon, who had dropped several
Starting point is 00:35:28 passes during the regular season, he threw the ball on third down, 30 plus yards down the field. That's the kind of confidence that Andy has in one five. And confidence is well-placed. Yes it is. And man, you can look at them last week and look at them four weeks ago when they didn't have Worthy,
Starting point is 00:35:46 they didn't have Chukko. Now they all healthy, man. Worthy is, man. He got better and better. He's fine, bro. Like, he is, that's one of the guys that ain't nobody talking about that can be MVP. That's why I told you. Remember I told you earlier, you never know whose day it's going to be. When you watch the Chiefs all season long,
Starting point is 00:36:03 every time they play, it's always somebody else day. Like you watch the Bengals play, you know it's gonna be Chase. Half the time, 90% of the time. You watch the Chiefs play, ain't no telling who day it's gonna be. One day it's Worthy, one day it's Kelsey, one day it's Noah Gray.
Starting point is 00:36:16 So depending what the Eagles do this game, well, it's gonna be exciting. Now joining us, he was NFL R rookie of the year. He's a former All-Pro and Pro Bowl player, played years with the San Diego Chargers and he played one season, if I'm not mistaken, with the Buffalo Bills.
Starting point is 00:36:37 Here he is, Sean Lights Out Merryman. What up, bro? What's up, little man? What's up, little man? What's up, little man? What's up, little man? There you go. I'm just getting up here. You're already started. Hey, that bare knuckle, you're getting that bare knuckle.
Starting point is 00:36:52 Nah, I was finna beat his ass years ago. See, this what happened. I promise you. No, no, listen, this what happened. I didn't know he was playing around. I didn't know he was playing around. Long time ago. And he said he was going to beat my ass.
Starting point is 00:37:04 So I stopped. I was in the charge facility, I walked out and I did a video. And said I was going to choke him when I seen him. Right? I didn't know Chad there. I thought he was serious. And we were playing them coming up. I said, when we see them, I'm going to do something real bad.
Starting point is 00:37:21 Real bad when I catch him. And we ain't never caught him. Yeah. It was a fun day. Man, how you doing, Shaq? I'm good, man. Doing well caught him. Yeah. It was a fun day. Man, how you doing, y'all? I'm good, man. Doing well. Good.
Starting point is 00:37:28 Let me ask you this, man. You see this matchup, obviously Patrick Mahomes going for the three-peat. The Eagles, Saquon, Jalen Hurts, AJ, Devontae. Then you go to the defensive side of football, led by Jalen Carter. They have Zach Brown in the middle. You got Slade, you got Mitchell on the outside.
Starting point is 00:37:44 How do you see this matchup playing out? You know, it's funny because everybody's talking about the obvious, right? Saquon talking about Pat. We know what they gonna do. I think, man, this game really gonna come down to the trenches. I think it's really gonna come down to Jaylon Carter,
Starting point is 00:37:58 Chris Jones. I think it's gonna be that kind of matchup because that's really gonna dictate the tempo of the game. You know, they gonna going to get there. Say Kwan's going to rush for whatever he's going to rush. I don't think this, like, no, let anybody rush for a hundred yards this year. I don't think so.
Starting point is 00:38:12 Yes, but again, so now he got a real obstacle on his hands dealing with that man. I just think it's going to be an unsung hero. It ain't going to be Patrick Mahomes. It ain't going to be, it's going to be somebody like Slay, right, to step up, you know, getting pressures, you know, in a ball force. And I think it's gonna be an unsung hero in this game
Starting point is 00:38:29 that we just, we really not talking about. I wanna know about the fight league. Yeah. All right, tell the people about what you have going with the fight league. Because I'm thinking about joining, you know, getting hands wet a little bit. But it's MMA, so. I can kick too., you know, getting hands wet a little bit. But it's MMA. So I listen, I can kick too.
Starting point is 00:38:47 Whatever you want to do. So look, when I back in the mid 2000s, I wanted to start. I was working with Jay Glazer. I was in his gym. Right. So I grew up my family, my uncle's a professional boxer. So I grew up just boxing in PG County, Washington, DC area anyway. Sugar Ray Leonard's gym was right up the street. So I grew up around boxers anyway. And so I was hitting a gym, hitting a miss one day in gym and Jay Glaze said, Hey, look, I see you can
Starting point is 00:39:08 box if you were trying MMA. It'll help you out in football with your hands coming off the edge. So he took me to gym one day and Jay Glaze is here and Randy Couture is sitting on my left. But I'm looking at Jay, I said, I'm not fighting Randy Couture today. That's not happening. But when I saw, man, I started training with these guys, you know, every off season, Chuck Liddell, T.D.O.T.s, all these guys I got a chance to just be around to train with. And I fell in love with the sport. So I ended up launching Lights Out Extreme Fight,
Starting point is 00:39:32 which we looked at, man, as one of the feeders to UFC. You know, we sent six guys to the UFC last year. Okay. So that's what it's all basically, your minor league system to the UFC. Yeah. Yeah. And I think that the word minor league, nobody's gonna be bigger than UFC. Right. No, no, no. There's gonna be people who's gonna try.
Starting point is 00:39:48 They got too much of a head start. They got too much of a head start. And then when you think of MMA, you already think of the UFC no matter where you at. But what you can do is do some things that they may not be looking at, right? We got a bunch of, we got chips in the gloves that can measure speed, power, punch, impact,
Starting point is 00:40:01 all that's like a lot of tech, a lot of AI. And I just launched my streaming service, Lights Out Sports TV, that we carry in a lot of combat sports, we got a big fight in LA this Friday, on like in Long Beach for Lights Out, a string fight. So what you can do, man, because we're able to pivot, we can do some stuff and if they like it, right? If they like it, they adopt it.
Starting point is 00:40:21 And that's the whole goal of it. We don't try to compete, we're just trying to create. Let me ask you this. You hear Miles Garrett says, look, I appreciate everything in Cleveland. They made my dream come true. First overall draft pick, defensive player of the year, all pro, pro bowl.
Starting point is 00:40:37 I believe I've done all I possibly can, but at the end of the day, I want to compete for a championship. And I don't believe I can do that in Cleveland. Do you have a problem with him? Like, I want to go compete for a title. No, and the Browns organization got to respect it. He's giving you everything he possibly can from his standpoint.
Starting point is 00:40:56 He's done everything he can. Now you get to a point as an organization that they're not doing what's best in your interest now. Because after you make enough money, you already know what is the best in your position. You already got the Pro Bowls, all pros, you already got the accolades. The only thing now to do is get a championship.
Starting point is 00:41:12 And if you don't have somebody out there working with you to get put you in the best situation, say, hey man, we gotta get this. We gotta get this. The biggest regret I have my career is not winning a ring. That's the biggest one. In all the teams we had, we should have at least got one. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:28 We should have got one. And so I remember going to NFL Network and I'm sitting up there on the panel, got Marshall, everybody was up there and they got these rings on and I'm sitting there, my heart beating through my chest. Because you've missed that part. So I don't blame Miles Garrett at all for wanting to get out of an organization, and they got these rings on it. And I'm sitting there, my heart beating through my chest. Because you've missed that part.
Starting point is 00:41:45 So I don't blame Miles Garrett at all for wanting to get out of an organization that hasn't put him in the best situation to be a champion. What's up, bro? You good? I'm just making sure you good. What's up?
Starting point is 00:42:02 You show? What's really going on? I'm making sure he good. But sure? All right. What's really going on? I'm making sure he good. But I thought you were using the fight. Into the what? The fight game. No, I'm not really into the fight game. My son is into the fight game.
Starting point is 00:42:17 Like what you talking about, like fighting like with Fizz? MMA. Yeah, he likes to do MMA. How old is he now? 17. OK. But I ain't letting him do nothing just far. Why? Because he got a game weight to do anything. How old is he now? 17. Okay. But I ain't letting him do nothing so far. Why?
Starting point is 00:42:27 Because he got a gang way to play ball, so that don't. I ain't got no way I'll spar you. Anytime, man. Not for real. What about that? Oh, I'm dancing anytime. Nah, he think it's a gang. This shit different over here, man.
Starting point is 00:42:40 Hey, you sweet on that. Hey, you know what's funny is after I did my exhibition, right, and I had a few local fights in Miami, my hands are registered now. They registered with who? I didn't have, what do you mean, with Vegas? I ain't had no choice but to register.
Starting point is 00:42:54 What you mean, you know with who? Stop playing with me, man. Fuck, come across this table, cross your head, boy. Oh, man, all you need to do is swing. I take everything else. Really? That's it, man. Really? That's it. You want a box of that or MMA?
Starting point is 00:43:06 Oh, I'm MMA all day. I don't care. He can kick all he want to. I don't need the kick. What you going to do? All I need to do is grab you. You ain't going to grab shit. They got to beat your ass.
Starting point is 00:43:14 You got to beat your ass. I'm going to choke the life out you. They got to choke me out to get you to let go. Help me understand something. You tell me we get in the octagon, right? We, me, you get in the octagon. right? Me and you get in the octagon. Understand? Are you gonna run?
Starting point is 00:43:27 No, why the fuck? Run from who? Did I run from you when we played? Did I run from anybody when we played? That's different. No, it's no different. I had the same mentality. So we get in the octagon.
Starting point is 00:43:35 We'll make this happen. Hold on. We get in the octagon. You tell me you're going to try to grab me and you think you're gonna be able to do so. Understand as quick as I am, with these feet, understand these hands, you're gonna grab me. Listen, man, fighting you would be like fighting my son.
Starting point is 00:43:48 You know what? Practice. Hey, can you do me a favor? Yes. As God is my will. Please make this happen so I can do it. We're gonna make it happen. Hey, chat, y'all wanna see that? Y'all wanna see MMA? All y'all get is D-Bow.
Starting point is 00:44:00 I don't doubt it. Fight of the century. Please do. This way, this way. For one, everyone listen. Stealers, Fingers. People in the century. Please do. This way, this way. For one, listen, people in the chat, he's too slow, too much muscle. I'm finna dance around that shit. I'ma hit you in your head.
Starting point is 00:44:10 I'ma hit you when I want to. I'ma play with you. Peezy. I'ma beat that. Hey Peezy, I'ma, listen man. Hey Peezy, hey Peezy. Come here Peezy, come here. Hey Peezy.
Starting point is 00:44:19 Hey listen, hey listen. Hey listen, listen. I beat his ass too. Peezy get up here now. Get up here man, we up here talking through. I beat his ass too, I don, listen. I beat his ass too. Hey listen, listen. I beat his ass too. Please get up here now. Get up here man. He up here talking through. I beat his ass too.
Starting point is 00:44:29 I don't care. It don't matter. God damn. Please. He ain't got it like he used to. Hey. Hey. What's up, man?
Starting point is 00:44:37 No, man, he talking about whooping ass. Oh, for the whooping ass in the game. What you mean? What's the difference? Hey, listen. Just because he's sitting here, just because he's sitting here, my tone don't change for nobody. It don't need to change, man.
Starting point is 00:44:49 I'll beat your ass and I'll beat his ass. It ain't happening, bro. It ain't happening, bro. I'll tell you something, he won't, he won't, he won't, he won't do both in the MMA. He will be in MMA. It's still Chad, you know what I mean? He always go talk crazy. Nah, but you know, but listen, it's one thing about talking, but you know I'm gonna get
Starting point is 00:44:59 in there and thump. You're trying. I'm gonna thump. What you gonna try? It's gonna be a try. I'm gonna beat his ass, man. Stop playing on listen, it's one thing about talking, but you know I'm gonna get in there and thump. You're trying. I'm gonna thump. What you gonna try?
Starting point is 00:45:07 It's gonna be a try. I'm gonna beat his big ass, man. Stop playing with me. You 100 what? How much you weigh? 205 right now. Man, you gonna pick that little shit up with one hand. How you gonna pick it up?
Starting point is 00:45:14 Cause he gonna pick that shit up with one hand. Y'all couldn't even touch me when I played. What make you think you gonna touch me now? I couldn't touch you when you played. I swam you on your head, on your neck. Do it now. Do it now. Do it now.
Starting point is 00:45:23 On your neck. We gonna be like, no, look how. Hey, hey, hey. He still lifts in a different way. I still lift in a different way. Not like that, they different. And he ain't built like me, man. Nigga just big, man. I don't see that shit, man.
Starting point is 00:45:35 Hey, man. Y'all got me fucked up. Nigga, beat yo ass, what? Run it. Run it. Y'all talking. Run it. Man, stop playing with me, man.
Starting point is 00:45:43 You playing with me, man? Run it. Hey, I'm putting on my money. I'm putting on my money, O'Debo. How much you got? Let me put on my money. Man, the way my body set up, I can't do no helping. No body.
Starting point is 00:45:52 You betting against me? Yeah. Hey. Hey. All right. You can invest. You can invest with me. You think she is sweet, boy?
Starting point is 00:46:00 Oh, I don't think she is sweet, man. You know where I'm from? You think she is sweet? You for real? Are y'all playing, or you for real? Hell. No, no. I'm scared of you from she's sweet. You know what I'm from? You think she's sweet? Are y'all playing or are you for real? Hell. No, no. Where are you from?
Starting point is 00:46:08 Where am I from? But you seriously? Where I'm from? You say you want your money. We're going to make it happen. You know, Ocho be really believing what he's saying sometimes. He could be outside.
Starting point is 00:46:18 It don't matter. Wherever. No, we're going to pay for that. I'm talking with you wherever, boy. No, no, no, no, no. I'm talking with you wherever, boy. You don't mess up no money. What's wrong with this nigga, man? I'm beating breaks off his ass you wherever boy. I'm thumpin' with you wherever boy. Fuck wrong with this nigga man.
Starting point is 00:46:26 I'm beating breaks off his ass. You! You talkin' about breaks, this ain't no car nigga. You! All right, all right. What we gonna do, we gonna get advertised as sponsors. How the hell I get called up for this conversation? You too slow, you not quick enough,
Starting point is 00:46:41 I have a skillset that I've honed over years that you ain't gonna be able to deal with boy. That skillset that I ain't able to absolutely destroy. All right, okay, okay. I'm gonna skill set that I've honed over years Absolutely this alright, okay. Okay. No, it is and be honest with ya you fast Quick quick you all that hands. I got ground game. What what? Stop with the grabbing. Stop man, for real, let's get it. Let's be honest. I'm playing with you. Stop with the grabbing. You know he don't want to get in the grabbing game. I know he don't.
Starting point is 00:47:12 No. I know he don't. But this is what I'm more worried about. I'm more worried about he might eat that little shit you throw at him. No, forget what I told you. He ain't conditioned like I am. No.
Starting point is 00:47:23 He gonna be tired in two seconds. He gonna try to throw a punch. He gonna try to throw a punch. You said MMA. He's not grabbing me. Stop saying that before I hit you in your mouth. Don't say that no more. How the hell I get on this?
Starting point is 00:47:37 I was walking by and I'm about to get hit in my mouth. Boy, God damn. Because y'all disrespecting me. Y'all think that could. Hey, you know how to AFC the, hey, Peezy. You know how to AFC North Hills? Hey, interview forever. Because y'all disrespect him. And y'all think that could. Hey, man, you go to AFC. Hey, Peezy, you go to AFC, North Hill. Hey, interviews forever. I don't like that people look at size, and they determine wins and losses based off size.
Starting point is 00:47:53 You saw David and Goliath. Remember that story, right? Man, that was the Bible. Remember that story? Remember what happened when I was in there? Huh? Yeah. And you ain't in there.
Starting point is 00:47:59 Don't do that. Don't try to paint yourself up to beat David. You read the Bible? Yeah, I read. But you ain't. Do you read the Bible? One of us is David and Goliath David. You read the Bible? Yeah, I read, but you ain't. Do you read the Bible? One of us is David. Do you read the Bible?
Starting point is 00:48:08 Yes, one of us is David. Start reading, because you're gonna need that, nigger. Boy, you good. I ain't gonna need it. You're good. I thought you was good back then. I thought you was good back then. You know what?
Starting point is 00:48:17 When you started, man. No, you ain't got better. I ain't been around you in a minute. Hey, Chad. You got better. Chad, Chad, listen to me. You heard me? Hey, Chad, listen. I'll tell you something. Listen, let, listen to me. You heard me? Hey, Chad, listen.
Starting point is 00:48:25 I'm going to take some. Listen, let me talk to you. Let me talk to you. He done got good. He's good. No, this ain't no joke. I'm putting him in no deep on him. Y'all take my life for a joke.
Starting point is 00:48:32 My life ain't no joke. All my kids, I'm going to fuck you up. See all that? All that, all that's going to be crazy. All that crazy. I'm going to bust you in your mouth. They call me up, I'm like, oh, Lord. What's going on?
Starting point is 00:48:45 What is this? I put that on my kids. You know how I play by my kids, I got 200 of them. I got you. But you good. Boy, you good. I'ma show you I'm good. In the octagon, I'ma show you I'm good.
Starting point is 00:48:54 Hold on, you ain't going to put you. Oh my God. What you got to do? You got something to say? Listen, man, I accepted my Lord and Savior in August of this past year, man. I was baptized. You were?
Starting point is 00:49:06 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, mine went off. I had to get baptized. And see, what you about to make me do is go totally outside what I said I was going to do. Of your character, right? No. Listen, man, I think I might, I've been trying to hold this thing inside of me for a long
Starting point is 00:49:23 time. Because ever since I got like fined by Roger Goodell for 75,000, I've been wanting to kill somebody. I think you might be the person. I think God done brought you to me. That's fine. That's fine. That's fine. Whatever you want to do. You know?
Starting point is 00:49:33 Matter of fact, if you beat me, I add a 75,000 to your purse if you beat me. How about that? Hell. So you get your money back. That's how serious I am. Oh, you gonna give me that? I give it back.
Starting point is 00:49:41 You might as well just write that right now. You got me fucked up, man. You might as well write that. How can I get involved in this? Y'all talking about making some money. Shay, where you coming at? Where's my part? Hold on, I'll tell you what part.
Starting point is 00:49:53 You gonna be the nigga cut man. All right, I ain't gonna work that day then. I ain't gonna work. There'll be no work done. Do my check come whether I do nothing? Hold on. So hold on, I got three. Cause I walk down the aisle, I'll bring him out.
Starting point is 00:50:06 Hold on. So you don't believe in me. No. You don't believe me. I believe it. And you talking shit. What you think? OK.
Starting point is 00:50:11 What the hell I look like believing in you and going against me? You got life all messed up. I don't care where you from. I'm from Akron, Ohio. That don't mean nothing. You from where? Akron, Ohio.
Starting point is 00:50:20 I'm going to beat the bricks off your ass. Akron, Ohio. Yeah. And who? I'm from Femme City. Who? Dade County. I don't even know where that is. I know. Oh, you don't know. It don't matter. You don't know when I off your ass. I'm from McRide. Yeah. I'm from Femme City. Who? Dade County.
Starting point is 00:50:25 I don't even know where that is. I know. Oh, you don't know. You don't know when I lump your ass up, bitch. That ain't good. You ain't gonna lump up. All right. I got my butt.
Starting point is 00:50:32 All right. Wendy, how did I get in there? When did something be able to talk like that? You know what? Matter of fact, I'm doing too much talking. Yes, you are. I'm doing too much talking. Let's just set the shit up, man.
Starting point is 00:50:42 We gotta front it. When you want it. Tomorrow. It don't matter. We can do it now. We can do it the shit up, man. Run it. When you want it. Tomorrow. It don't matter. We can do it now. We can do it now in front of everybody. It don't make me none. It don't matter where I'm at.
Starting point is 00:50:50 Run it. Nigga, run it. Nigga, what you saying? Run it. All I need you to do is swing. All I need you to do is swing. We got six bucks. We got six bucks.
Starting point is 00:51:01 I don't trust him. I don't trust him. And playing. I don't trust him. And that's the note. No, no, no, no. Listen, I'm trying to tell you. He's that pit bull that he's, sit off, you get close enough, he gonna grab your ass.
Starting point is 00:51:14 He should have pulled you down, right? He said what? I pulled you down for a reason. I pulled you down for a reason. Hey, we gotta sit here. That niggas fat, I'm not playing. He's dead ass. Oh yeah, I was saying it up. Hey, we got to say you are playing. The nigga's fat, I'm not playing. He's dead ass. Oh yeah, I'ma say it up. Hey, Peezy, we got this.
Starting point is 00:51:28 It's me. Oh, we gonna make some money. Talk about he's serious, what you think I am? Playing. I ain't playing, did I play with you on Sundays? Yeah. He come to me for that. Peezy, exactly, we about to fight before the game.
Starting point is 00:51:41 I said, nah, man, they gonna throw me out for real. I ain't got time to mess with you, CJ. Like I'm a big pull up with your shirt rolled up. Come on, man, let's get this. I said, nah, man, they gonna throw me out for real and you gonna get to play. But it's the thing, this ain't football anymore. This is real life.
Starting point is 00:51:54 But you do it. You tested my manhood and you're disrespecting me. Are you gonna, no. Okay, we'll see. Yeah, I'll tell you, man. We'll see. We'll see. How much time do you need to get the knee right? Oh, I don't want no excuses.
Starting point is 00:52:08 That's going to be his first excuse when he lose. Oh, my knee was messed up. Oh, my knee was... I can do that right now. I had a meniscus. I had a meniscus. I'm here until tomorrow. Y'all bring me back.
Starting point is 00:52:16 I'm here until tomorrow. I gotta go run and do my thing. Oh, my knee. Hit me back. Oh. I need some more of this, man. I need to get my content out. I'm gonna beat that nigga ass, bro.
Starting point is 00:52:26 I tell you what, man. You give it time. Whatever you need to do, Shay, give him the time. And he gonna need to gain some weight. You might want to give him the whole thing. I don't need to gain no weight. I think six months would be good enough. Can you be ready in six months?
Starting point is 00:52:38 I can be ready tomorrow, man. No, we need time. We got to sell this. What shit? Now you quiet. Now you quiet. Be got to sell this. What shit? Now you quiet. Now you quiet. He quiet. Soft ass. Ain't nobody quiet.
Starting point is 00:52:50 Soft ass. Okay. You soft, boy. I see through all that shit. I see through all that muscle. Shit ain't about nothing, boy. You got the right one. I'm going to.
Starting point is 00:53:00 You got the right one, baby. I'm going to try to see what they say in the chat. Cause uh. I beat the chat ass too. See man, listen. We gonna have to listen. I'm tired, I'm not listening. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:19 I'm Helen Keller. Don't talk to me. You're trying to make me laugh. I'm not trying to make you laugh. Laugh for what? Cause whatever you smile with, gonna be missing. Come on, bust your ass too bad. Okay, all right, bet. Don't talk, I'm not trying to make you laugh. Laugh for what? Cause whatever you smile, we're gonna be missing. Come on, bust your ass too bad.
Starting point is 00:53:26 Okay, all right, bet. Nah, nah, you gotta get it. Bet. You gotta get it. Hey, he asked for this. He asked for this. Oh, I'm gonna get you anything you looking for. March, April, May, June, July, August.
Starting point is 00:53:36 I think August would be about the right amount of time. I don't need no, I'm good now. You better talk to him. Hey Ryan, I'm gonna fuck him up. Lies. All right. I got Debo chat. That's fine. I didn't Ryan, I'm a fuck him up. Lies. All right. I got Debo chat. That's fine.
Starting point is 00:53:48 I didn't know. I want you to better get, cause my teachers in the high school said the same thing. They didn't believe in me and look what I became. You didn't. Look where I'm come. You didn't. Ass, who you got?
Starting point is 00:53:58 Debo. Okay. Aaron, who you got? Debo. Thank you. Thank you. Somebody that believe in me. That's that's uh that's uh Ocho's producer Aaron. So. Okay. Unfortunately uh. Put all your money on him too.
Starting point is 00:54:17 James Harrison ladies and gentlemen. Thank you for joining us Devo man. Appreciate it. Hey, get right. Get the knee right. Yeah, get right. We got this. Listen. Get get right. And yeah, I know. I know. I ain't lying, man. Appreciate it. Hey, get right. Get the knee right. We got this. Listen. Get right. Yeah, I know. I ain't lying, man. This is gonna be the easy. I thought playing football was easy.
Starting point is 00:54:31 That could be the easiest money you ever made. Ever made. You lost the money, right? Yeah, we'll see. The money gonna be right. We'll see. That's how I know he gonna get his ass whoop cause he worried about the money.
Starting point is 00:54:42 I'm going in for business. You going in. No. I'm going in for business. You going in for business? I'm going in for business. What you doing after the show? Huh? What you doing after the show? I'm gonna go to the French Quarter and smoke a cigar. You wanna go?
Starting point is 00:54:53 Tell me where you going. I'll meet you there. Okay bet. We can take care of it then. I just told you, I just told you. I'm gonna be in the French Quarter, I'm gonna be in the French Quarter smoking a cigar. Okay.
Starting point is 00:55:02 So whatever you wanna do. What's going on everybody? This is Justin Pinnock from John Boy Media, the host of the football today podcast alongside Bobby Skinner and Chris Rose. We're rolling three times a week on Mondays, on Wednesdays, on Fridays, breaking down everything you need to know about the NFL. We're talking about the MVP race. Is Josh Allen gonna pull it out? Lamar Jackson? Can Saquon Barkley even break the rushing record?
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Starting point is 00:55:50 Hope you could join us for the postseason run. It's Julie Stewart-Banks. I'm doing a new podcast from iHeart podcasts and the national hockey league. And I'm paired up with one of my favorite players, the always quotable Nate Thompson. I wore nine NHL sweaters and I have story up with one of my favorite players, the always quotable Nate Thompson. I wore nine NHL sweaters and I have story after story to share. And believe it or not, I have plenty to say
Starting point is 00:56:10 and not just about hockey. Believe me, he does. Energy Line with Nate and JSB is the name of the podcast and it's gonna be, well, it's gonna be quite the ride. We're officially line mates, Nate. We're the Energy Line. We'll have plenty of folks join us, current players, some of my former teammates, Hall of Famers, and wait to see some of the connections that Julie has.
Starting point is 00:56:31 She has quite the Rolodex. Okay, we'll lean into Nate's playing experience and tap into our interests away from hockey, and try to do what Energy Lines are supposed to do, provide an emotional boost. How do you feel about all that, Nate? I'm vibing, Julie. I'm ready to roll. Listen to Energy Line with Nate and JSB on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts,
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Starting point is 00:58:49 Bet I see you, bet I see you. Hey, I got Debo. Oh! Come on, get up. Coming to the stage right now is the San Francisco 49ers all pro linebacker. One of the best defensive players in all of football, Fred Warner. What's up, bro? How you doing? Four time all pro linebacker joins us on behalf of Experian,
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Starting point is 01:00:08 Girlfriend. Yeah, there you go. Like, dog, that just triggered me based on the situation I'm in right now. Being in the doghouse and things are in limbo. Yeah. Because this is something that me and that other person that we can get into, you know?
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Starting point is 01:00:37 He does. And Fred Warner and his woman, they're an example of what can be when two people come together. That's it. You hear me? I don't know what type of foundation we own right now, but there's a solid. So how did you get involved with Experian? Yeah, man. Experian, they're so amazing. First of all, they're, I mean, I want to save my time, save my money, just like everybody. Right. And that's what they're all about. They're trying to save you time and money. So example you get a peloton right you want that peloton you got to get download the membership right then two two three weeks later you're like man you know what the peloton just
Starting point is 01:01:12 ain't working for me right but i forgot about the membership that all them subscriptions that you accumulate over time and it all add up the little 399ers those are the ones that gets you because guess what they kind of slide under the radar you don't you don't realize you got them you download the experience app they take care of all that for you they guess what they kind of slide on the radar you don't you don't realize you got them you download the experience app they take care of all that for you they get rid of all the unwanted subscriptions that you don't use or don't need saving time and money I like you get your former defensive coordinator back Robert Sala comes back the last time you guys went to the Super Bowl you coming back right what happened this year because you got
Starting point is 01:01:40 here in the suit y'all you guys were in this situation just last year right this year some injuries. What happened? What does the 49ers need to do to get back in this position? And what happened this year? Yeah, I mean, everybody talks about the injuries, right? I think it just, when you go through the whole year, things just unraveled at the exact wrong time,
Starting point is 01:01:59 I think you could just call it, right? We thought we had a chance to really get back on track. Mid-season, we get Christian back, right? You know, we went a big game on the road against Buccaneers, Buffalo. We think we can come bounce back after a bad game against Green Bay. He gets hurt. We lose guys on the D line. We lose Trent. We lose BA. Like all these, all these injuries kind of just happened at the wrong time. And we just weren't able to continue to compete at a high level.
Starting point is 01:02:20 So we got to get back, man. We got to get back on track. This off season, get guys healthy and get that dog back in us. Now, when you think about the off season, right? Are there any pieces, any acquisitions that you see fit that can help and bolster the defensive side of the ball and the offensive side? Are you happy with the core guys you guys have? I mean, I see Miles Garrett asking for a tracer.
Starting point is 01:02:39 What? I'm like, hey, hey, hey. Hey, bro, what's up, man? We was just jumping it up at the Pro Bowl. You know, he always, I'm like, you want to try? I was like, oh, no, man. I love my team. I love who we have, right?
Starting point is 01:02:53 You always looking for more pieces, you know, more improvement. Of course, you know, we need improvement going into the next season. Of course, based on the season we had, but I love everybody that we got in our locker room. It's going to take everybody just taking a look in the mirror and just taking that next step on the next season. What a Fred Warner. Obviously you've been a multi-time all pro player. You've gone to Pro Bowl.
Starting point is 01:03:12 You've gone to Super Bowl. What's left? What do you want to accomplish say the next four or five years of your career? Four or five Super Bowls. Four or five Super Bowls. Man, that's honestly the only thing I'm chasing at this point, right?
Starting point is 01:03:26 When I wake up in the morning, it's no longer like, all right, I'm trying to just be the best in the game, right? I wanna be the best of all time. And what does that require? Not only playing at the best, the highest level, but having the championships, right? That's the ultimate team award is a Super Bowl ring.
Starting point is 01:03:42 And so what do you have to do? You gotta go outside yourself. You gotta get uncomfortable now. Where you going do you have to do? You got to go outside yourself. You got to get uncomfortable now. Where you going, you're getting after your teammates like, Hey man, come train with me. Come train in the Bay. Like let's get, let's get out there. Let's get to it.
Starting point is 01:03:52 So we making sure that we're training together and we're doing things the right way. So when ultimately the season comes, boom, now we'd even that more locked in the chemistry there, the camaraderie, we got to build that up to start getting, getting these rings going. What about a DP or why? Absolutely.
Starting point is 01:04:05 Because you know, you look at the great linebackers from Singletary to Bucca, Ray Lewis, Erlacher, Kieckley, all those guys are able to accomplish that in the middle linebacker position. And I think you're in that category, but you're gonna need to get one of those. Yeah, I'll take it a step further. Why not MVP?
Starting point is 01:04:24 Okay, you were trying to be the ALT. Come on, man. There's gonna get one of those. Yeah, I'll take it a step further. Why not MVP? Okay, well you would try to be the ALT. Come on, man. There's gonna be two of those now. Adam Page. And LT. I figure I wanna shoot for MVP and if I fall down on DPOY, hey, that's great too.
Starting point is 01:04:35 That's the mindset though. Yeah. I'm trying to think. It's early, I've asked everybody that's been on here this. It's early, it's February right now. I'm not sure how much time you take off from your season
Starting point is 01:04:46 before you start back training. What do you do in the off season? What does that look like before you get back into business? Before getting back into it, I mean, all that time in season when I'm dedicating that to just strictly football, like I want to give some time back to my family, right? My wife, my son, I got a 10 month old boy at home who needs his daddy, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:05:04 So it's kind of using that time to take some trips, spend some more time with them. Unfortunately, I got to come do stuff like this because I'm not playing in the Super Bowl, but it is a pleasure to obviously be amongst the greats and do stuff like this. But yeah, man, just spend time with family. That's dope. Yeah, that's dope. Ted Karras and Alex Capa, each one. One.
Starting point is 01:05:24 What? What's up, bro? How you doing, each one. One, one. What's up, bro? How you doing, man? How you doing? What's up, bro? How you doing? What up, baby? What up, baby?
Starting point is 01:05:31 Let's go! Have a seat. Tell us what brings you out. Let's see the Bounty, the quicker picker. Hold on, hold on. Yeah, we're the Bounty Wingmen. We're the Bounty Wingmen today. Because, Shannon, you can't have football without wings.
Starting point is 01:05:44 You cannot. You cannot have. And you can't have wings without batting. Because Shannon, you can't have football without wings. You cannot. You cannot have. And you can't have wings without batting. You cannot. You can't do it. So is this a two-ply, the quicker picker-upper, right? Oh, this is the good stuff. The good stuff.
Starting point is 01:05:53 The really good stuff. This is the diesel. OK. I like it. Listen, we might as well be in Cincinnati right now. There we go. How's your experience so far been at Zubo? This week.
Starting point is 01:06:04 I'm kind of just coming straight to Radio Row. Here we go. How's your experience so far been at Super Bowl? This week. I'm kinda just, you know, just coming straight to radio row. You know, I've been to New Orleans a few times. Uh-huh. I love this town. You like it? Yeah, yeah. How's it been so far?
Starting point is 01:06:15 It's been good. I had some beignets last night. Ah. But it's been good, man. Just hanging out here. Okay, okay. Talk to us about the season. Obviously, you guys didn't make the playoffs and uh haven't been
Starting point is 01:06:26 to the Super Bowl. You know what that's like. Um so what what are the bingles? What do you guys need to do to make sure that next year in San Francisco that you guys are not able to come to radio row? Yeah. I mean you can't throw away games right like if you look at our early season, we had too many games that we just threw away like game four or five games. We should have won and we didn't make the play and And when you do that, it's tough to dig yourself out of a hole even if you don't have a run at the end there.
Starting point is 01:06:49 That Patriots game really hurt, huh? Cause you look back at it and see where they finished and look where that one game, what if you like, and that's what it comes down to during the season. It's, look, we can, there's game here, game there, but you're like, hold on, we lost to that team. They're gonna be picking third in the draft. And we lost to that team.
Starting point is 01:07:06 And they potentially kept us out of the playoff. Yeah, no, I think that's officially something that's on our back as a program to see, get these early wins in the season and not play from a two, three game deficit against Kansas City, Buffalo, Baltimore, and just be in the pack. Cause it's gonna be tight regardless. But we can't drop three to start and expect to do anything.
Starting point is 01:07:28 But you know how close those games are even between teams that win a lot of games and yes, they don't if you don't play well, you're going to lose those games. It's that simple. You look at Kansas City one score game. They don't lose one score games. You lose a couple of those games. Now all of a sudden the six it works out different some team one score game. They might be two and eight another team in one score game, they might be two and eight.
Starting point is 01:07:45 Another team in one score game, they might be eight and two. That's the difference between a team making the playoffs and a team that doesn't make the playoffs. What do you guys look? You lose your defensive coordinator, you bring it out. I think Golden comes back in, he was a DB live backer. End up going to Notre Dame, becoming the DC. He comes back.
Starting point is 01:08:03 What are some of the things that you think you guys need to do in order to improve this overall team, but to make sure you guys were just in the soup bowl about four years ago? How do you get back? So I think it just starts with preparation. We got to come out of camp healthy and ready to go,
Starting point is 01:08:18 prepared, healthy, ready to go for week one, week two, and put ourselves in a great position in our division and in our conference. You know, I'm excited for Scott Peters, our new All-Ing Flair coach. I think he's gonna bring a great, refreshing new energy to our room. I've talked to Dave Andrews up in New England,
Starting point is 01:08:36 and you know, he speaks very highly of him. So I'm excited to get to work with him. Yeah, and it's not wholesale changes. Like, I mean, every game is going to be close the whole year. So it's making those plays. It comes down to execution. And if you execute in those close games, that's the difference.
Starting point is 01:08:54 Better. Matter of fact. Get them right. Get them right. Also, I want to point out also, watching us, I'm saying us, even though I'm not on the team right now, watching us throughout the years, we always have a problem, an issue with starting slow. We always start slow where we have to
Starting point is 01:09:08 find our way, pick ourselves out the hole. You know, what do you think we can do from an offensive and defensive standpoint to where we can get a season finally where we start fast for a change and it's not so hard to climb back into contention later on in the season? I think we're probably going to, it's probably going to be a little bit different of a spring program. Right. And obviously camp too. And, you know, I think that Zach wanted to play us more in this preseason. I think we'll probably have a bigger volume in the preseason coming up. That you just talked about that. Yes. Because I'm from the old school. Yeah. I used to play the first preseason game, then the fourth preseason game.
Starting point is 01:09:45 Obviously, if you went overseas or you played the Hall of Fame game, you played five. But we would play 10 play, the first preseason game, we played 10 plays, and then we played 20. The third preseason game was dress-out dress rehearsal. So we're playing three quarters, and then the fourth game, we were out.
Starting point is 01:09:59 Now a lot of these guys, you guys don't even play in the preseason. How difficult, and then now you ask, well, you don't play the entire preseason. All right, we're gonna turn it up. We want you to go all out, 60 plays. That's asking an awful lot, guys. Yeah, but you still see teams do it.
Starting point is 01:10:14 Like, I think the Rams, when they won the Super Bowl, they didn't play at all in the preseason. So, I don't know. I mean, it's doable. I don't like to look at that as like kind of an excuse. Like, I really think it comes down to executing plays. Like, why did we lose those games? I don't think it's because we didn't play in the preseason. I think it's because. I don't like to look at that as like kind of an excuse. Like I really think it comes down to executing plays. Like, like why did we lose those games? I don't think it's because we didn't play in the preseason.
Starting point is 01:10:28 I think it's because we didn't play well. You know what I mean? I was just kind of pointing to something that we could change. Yeah, I know that too. To just change up the mojo. Right, right. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 01:10:37 At the start of the season. Kaleel Lebrown's all world cornerback, Denzel Ward. My guy. D you up, Ocho. D who up? You. You might be talking about Madden. You.
Starting point is 01:10:49 You need to talk about Real Life. I really need that Madden rating up. I done studied him to a T. I can tell him about his whole game. What he gonna do down at distance. D you up, that's what I'm telling you he gonna do. With Nathaniel. The great, hey listen,
Starting point is 01:11:00 one of the greatest technicians. Are you ever be seeing the tweets where I talk about. Yeah, I be seeing all of them. No, I study. No the tweets where I talk about? You talk about your own. Oh man, no, I studied. No, as well, I appreciate that. I ain't even playing the game. You can't. Boy. Like I said, you can't.
Starting point is 01:11:11 The real deal. Yeah. Hold on, I got one, another technician. Denzel Ward, number one. That goddamn Stingley. Now everybody can play Kona. But it's different, I'm talking about that. Dog, remember the play?
Starting point is 01:11:26 You just said PS2. Nah, no, hold on, hold on. No, I say, Sir Taney said, I'm talking about technical. Like it's different. The skillset, you know, watching somebody six two do it and watching somebody, I thought you were. Six foot. Yeah, it's different.
Starting point is 01:11:40 Dog, he's so fucking fluid by the hip, the footwork. Number one. The one that ran the deep. Higgins, oh Higgins. That was Higgins? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I so fucking fluid by the hip, the footwork. Number one. What that ran up, the deep, the- Higgins, oh Higgins. That was Higgins? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm mad. I'm mad, dawg.
Starting point is 01:11:49 Right, you're saying? Aw, dawg. No, that's- Dixie, thanks for joining us. Obviously, the other day you know about it. I don't know how soon you heard about it, but Miles Garrett sent a letter to the Cleveland Browns. He's asking for a trade.
Starting point is 01:12:03 Get a comment, anything you want to say? Oh man, like I said earlier in the season, I feel me and Miles, we like Shaq and Kobe, so I've been saying that. So I want to play with Miles Garrett, you know, I don't want him to leave, but sure. Yeah, if he leave, what's up? You asking him to get to?
Starting point is 01:12:18 I don't know, just check the details under the trade. I might be in there, but nah. I don't know, man. I want to always say, I love Cleveland, I'm a hometown kid in Cleveland. And't know, man. I want to always say I love Cleveland. I'm a hometown kid in Cleveland. And shoot, I mean, I want to stay home on miles of stay and we got to get this thing rolling. But we never know.
Starting point is 01:12:32 That's NFL. We'll see what happens. You also have to understand we look at the landscape at NFL. You've got the teams that win consistently year in and year out. Here's one position that allows you to contend for Lombardi trophy and that's the quarterback position. Now the Browns haven't been able to find a quarterback adequate enough to make sure they're always in contention
Starting point is 01:12:49 year in and year out. So at some point you do understand where Miles Garrett is coming from about his wish and hopes to contend for a Lombardi. Yeah, no doubt. I mean, that's the main thing. Like, I mean, just last year we had the number one defense. So, I mean, we got things kind of settled off
Starting point is 01:13:04 a little on that end. So like I said earlier, we need to solidify the quarterback position. Like quarterback been hurt and we just been rotating guys in and out. And it's hard to win like that in the NFL. Do you feel you're the best DB in the league? No doubt. No doubt.
Starting point is 01:13:17 Like I said, I feel I'm a technician. I feel I'm the number one technician in the league, at corner. I feel I'm a playmaker too. Like I make play, I'm the most playmaking corner out there in the game or whatever. It's the funny thing when you talk about DBs, right? 95% of DBs play not to get beat. You got 5% play to make a play. There's a difference. There's a complete difference. I just do to understand. I can see and talk about DB play. I like DB play as opposed to receiver
Starting point is 01:13:41 more. Do you think, I want you to be honest with yourself. Yeah. Do you think at any point in your career, right now, when you came in, when he was in college, that you could cover me? Come on, I feel that's a rhetorical question. You know I can do it. I'll make it a rhetorical question. I just wanna know if you really sure you can do that.
Starting point is 01:13:56 Yes. Like, serious? Serious. No, I mean like- You think you can get over it? And you're prime, you think you can get over it. I forget prime, I can get over your ass right now. Oh, you're not.
Starting point is 01:14:04 I see you want it, one clue you got a hand but one I have no please I see I see I really couldn't dig about it like I wanted to yeah when he stabbed I was gonna go up under it I couldn't I couldn't get up on it cuz I had no grip yeah I'm gonna say the old Joe he got around'd have got around it. Oh yeah, yeah, that's the old Ocho. I'm 57. Now he's just an old Ocho. Not old Ocho, the old Ocho. But let me ask you this, when you look at Jerry Judy, he came to Cleveland after some years in Denver,
Starting point is 01:14:35 and the quarterback play had a lot to do with that. He was technical. Now you're talking about, I can imagine those one-on-ones in practice, because he's technical. He can get in and out of breaks. He got great movement. What did you see? What do you think the biggest difference was between him and Cleveland and him and devil? I think it could have just been opportunities for real
Starting point is 01:14:56 opportunities. But like I say, he's smooth, raw running. He go get in and out them breaks like that. Like in practice, we go on that every time. So we get each other better for the games. But yeah, I think it's just opportunities, getting the opportunity to get the ball more and being that number one guy. He the number one guy for us
Starting point is 01:15:11 and he been making it happen and shit. How was it having Jamis in the locker room? We see those Jamis there, you be dub, and he be giving those sermons. No, I love Jamis, man. Jamis a great quarterback. I feel like he is giving us the best chance to win. He gonna throw that ball when he get out there,
Starting point is 01:15:26 but just a great team guy in the locker room. Like what you see on film and the clips, viral clips, like that's really who he is. That's him, so you gotta appreciate that and love who he is. Listen, since you've been in the league right now and you understand the landscape of the receivers, who do you think the best receiver in the game is? Or just give me your top three
Starting point is 01:15:47 based on those you played. On goal you play space. Yeah, like since I've been in the NFL, I'm like right now. Right now, let's go right now. I'm gonna put Jamar up there. Just being happy to see him two times a year. That's always gonna be a battle.
Starting point is 01:16:01 So Chase, Davante, when I went against him, Adams, Jefferson. Yes, okay. What you said, three or five? What's that? I mean, your top three is good. Yeah, I'm good with that.
Starting point is 01:16:14 Is there someone that gives you trouble? Like when I talk about D.V.'s, obviously during my playing day, and I think of someone that gave me trouble, there was only one. And that was Rivas. Rivas, yeah. There was only one, you know, regardless of where it was.
Starting point is 01:16:27 And like when it was technically Sal, he was patient. N***a had patience like Sallie Mae. But you know, people ain't finna pay Sallie Mae. It's kind of patient he had to the last. So nothing I did would really work. He was on bar. He was always in position. And then his ball skills.
Starting point is 01:16:40 He had the balls. You have the same ball skills. You and Derrick Stigney might be the only two I know that have you leave ball skills that He had the balls, you have the same ball skills. You and Derek Stigney might be the only two I know that have the lead ball skills that don't get impatient. They don't panic when the ball is near. That's the biggest thing. Nice and calm.
Starting point is 01:16:52 Yeah. But he had that same thing. What receiver gives you trouble? If there was one. Right. It's okay to be honest. Yeah, I'm gonna be honest. Like, it's a lot of great receivers,
Starting point is 01:17:02 but I don't feel no one just give me like, oh, it's just crazy trouble. No, but when I first feel no one just give me like, oh, it's just crazy trouble. No, but when I first came into the league, Antonio Brown though, going against him as a rookie, I feel like, okay, you know, this is really a matchup. Like he put pressure on me. I mean, it's a lot like Chase, like that's a tough matchup and stuff like that, but I don't think guys and it's too many guys is really just, I feel working me.
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