Club Shay Shay - Nightcap - Hour 2: Lakers aren’t interested in trading Austin Reaves and Brock Purdy signs new deal with 49ers!

Episode Date: May 17, 2025

Shannon Sharpe, Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson & Joe Johnson react to the Los Angeles Lakers aren’t looking to trade Austin Reaves unless its for a top tier big man, Brock Purdy signs new deal with the 49ers, and Boomer went off on Caleb Williams calling him entitled and much more!01:47 - Lakers not interested in trading Austin Reaves09:00 - Purdy reaches agreement20:41 - Boomer went off on Caleb Williams28:00 - NFL owners to vote on new seeding31:38 - 10 New Orleans inmates escape36:48 - Q & Ayyy(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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He became known as the Iran-Contra affair. The things that happened were so bizarre and insane, I can't begin to tell you. Please do. To hear the whole story, listen to Fiasco, Iran Contra on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Volume The Lakers are reportedly not interested in trading Austin Reeds unless it's for a top-tier big man per day. Laker scouts and executives here in Chicago have openly spoken about the team needs at the center position and its obvious priority for Palinka and Reddick.

The team has shown no interest in using Reeves in a trade that nets them anything less than a top tier big, and there aren't any of those available. With the two most common links in the early stages of offseason is Brooklyn Nick Claxton and Dallas Daniel Gafford. Reeves is one of the few tradable assets the Lakers have. Joe, what kind of player do you think trading Austin Reeves would net the Lakers? It's gotta be a big. They looking for nothing but a big. MB? Nah, they ain't getting no MB for no Austin Reeves. That ain't possible. They ain't doing that, Ocho.

Philly ain't doing that. The money gotta line up, Ocho. Well, you say, I mean, well, shit, the money ain't gonna line up with nobody if you want to beat anyway. Well, you might have to get off Austin Reeves and Ruey. Oh, okay. And what's my man that was starting at the center spot? Oh Jackson Hayes. Yeah because they

gonna need a big they need a big in return. Right. Well Jackson Hayes gonna be a friend so you gonna let you sign it and package him. Yeah I mean you like to make the deal work he might get blessed man. Yeah, right. Yeah Cuz Joel is about that and I don't know is he about to you know I don't have another year cuz he just signed he signed a three-year 193 million dollar extension I'm not like I want to make a big splash. They ain't really trying to go out here and just make us always do big They try to do that mediocre Yeah, they want to start it with will Will and then it came with Kareem

and you know, they got Shaq. They got LeBron, they got AD. Luca. Luca, yes. They better not let Joel and B go over there with Luca and Brian. Let me just start over here. This is a play out training.

Man. Yeah, so it kicks in this year, right? 25, 26, 27, yeah. So the option kicks in this year right 25 26 27. Yeah, so here's the option kicks in this year So next year and 26 Okay So, how was his base salary for this year 50 gotta be like 55 50

52 yeah 52 Yeah, damn boy get to the money on a Gotta be like 55 50 52 yeah 52 Yeah, damn boy get to the money on a base salary Man you see I told you yoke by the side three year to 21 Yeah, three three year to three years three year three twenty two twenty one. That's 70 That's 70 what seventy one meal

71 750 however, you want to slice it up. He worth it Listen every penny Look, he gonna play for a long time. That's it. Yeah, he gonna play for a minute He gonna play for a good minute the way he played below the rim right effective I mean And when we need done you will never hear from him again He'd be just like Tim Duncan

It might be worse than Jim Duncan cuz he gonna go back to Serbia and you'll never hear from him again I'm gonna be on his farm with his horse. Yep. Yep Go ahead no problem Yep. Yep. He didn't go ahead, none problem. AR is coming off his best season yet, averaging 20 points, four and a half rebounds, five and a half, five point eight assists,

shooting 46% from the floor. And he's gotten better and better from an undrafted rookie to his first year, to his second year, to this year. He's been sensational. He's gotten better and better every single year. He has, man. He's been unbelievable for the Lakers as a real option, especially after they got Luca even before they got Luca I thought he was trending in the right direction playing great basketball

his package as far as offensively has Has an enhanced over the years. He's gotten better and better The dribble catch and shoot. I don't really think he has he don't have much of a weakness to me I can also outside of probably defending on the perimeter, which is a And that but I mean, yeah, we don't really look at the guy to slide them puppies like that He can get to he can get all the way to the rim Can finish I agree with you, I don't think he has a whole lot of weaknesses just that he needs to work on this He can get to, he can get all the way to the rim. Um, uh, can finish.

I agree with you. I don't think he has a whole lot of weaknesses, just that he needs you to work on his, you know, his ability to defend. And it's hard because, you know, you don't want to get beat on your first dribble first or second. Cause that way help can't come quick enough. And if it does get there, they're so far out of position. Ain't nobody being able to get back.

Right. So, uh, and now you got him and Luca on the court. So you got two guys that really can't defend off the first dribble Not a tough Yep, it showed it showed in a T-wall series. That was us Yeah, cuz they can't put he put they put and they put him a Luke in the pick and roll and then and would won't ruin the pick and roll and then Ant would, uh, won't ruin the pick and roll like, it wasn't even just in those McDaniels. He was, he was being aggressive offensively going at who, if Luca or AR was guarding him, he was going at them

as well. Like they didn't, they didn't set them dudes off the hook. It didn't matter where you was at. You can play hide and seek all you want to. We're gonna find you. Hey, that's what you do. You get up when you get a fish on the line? What you know? Hey, you hold him. Oh, you don't let him get don't let it be don't let him off Don't give him too much slack. I'm getting too much like you gonna jump off there But you don't want to put him too hard cuz he break your line. Yeah. Hey, just hold it. Just hold it I'm gonna get you to the boat son. Yeah, you're going home today

You're going home if you're going to the pan or you're going on the wall? But you're coming home with me today, bro. Yeah, that's the only two options. The pen or the wall. City council members in San Antonio have filed paperwork to consider renaming their airport after Spurs president and recently retired head coach, Greg Popovich, the proposed name, the San Antonio Greg Popovich International Airport. That's all right. Yeah popovich international airport. That's all right. Yeah

I like that. That's all right. I like that especially poppin all he's done. Yeah. Yeah Yeah, he means he means a lot to their organization, uh the city san antonio They ain't got nothing else going on in there. Nah, he right. He running things over there, man The alamo that's all y'all got going on there I have it's nice. No, they asked about the Riverwalk That way from she be hybrid enough, it's okay. Oh Joe. It's okay. They got the rodeo down They got the rodeo or something. Yeah, they got yeah Okay, okay

So is it like kind of thing like Houston It ain't like Houston Not like you know Oh Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Please don't mention Houston. I need you to help me out bro. I mean use the right now. That's why that's why that's why We just I need you to help me out. Okay. I'm sorry my bad. You're right. Thank you. Please my bad 49ers and Brock Purdy has agreed to terms on a five-year 265 million dollar contract extension including a 181 million in total guarantees. The highest paid quarterbacks in the NFL based on a year to year basis.

Dak Prescott is 60 million. Joe Burrow, Josh Allen, Jordan Love and Trevor Lawrence at 55 million. Uh, Tua at 53.1, Brock Purdy 53, Jerry Goff at 53. That's a good number. Right where they have, right where they have them slotted's a good number right where they have right where they have them slaughtered is a good number for him yeah I mean you go oh Joe you gotta think about the man made 2.9 million over the first three years of his career now he'll get a check every every week for 2.9 million yeah listen he's deserved it hey Hey, well deserved. Well deserved. Yes.

I didn't, I didn't, I like Brett Purdy. I just didn't view him at the tier one type quarterback. No. He had a, a superior supporting class around him. You got Trent Williams. You got Debo. You had Brandon Iuke. You got Christian McCaffrey in the backfield.

How did he look once, once some of those pieces went away? It wasn't as pretty. It wasn't pretty, huh? It's all about the Ocho When real estate what is about it's about location location locations in the NFL is about position position Position he plays a premium because the no a He plays be premium position. Yes. And so you're like, man, that house ain't, man, that house ain't worth no $40 million. Maybe if it wasn't in Bel Air, you're right.

But it's in Bel Air. It's absolutely worth $40 million. And if you want it, that's what you're going to have to pay to get it. Yeah. Well, a starting quarterback in the NFL that's gone to a Super Bowl, he's gone to two NFC championships. He's won. That's what you're going to have to pay to keep him. It's really, it's really, it's really that simple. Oh, Joe, you know, all that man, he ain't worth that. You work with somebody to pay for you.

And he pays. He plays very well in that offense and that Shanahan. Yes, they very, very well. Look, actually, he's probably worth more because he saved Kyle Shanahan and John Lynch's job because they invested all that money in Trey Lance. They gave up all that draft capital to get Trey Lance. They took this man as Mr. Irrelevant in the last pick in the seventh round. Now, if you don't take him and you got Trey Lance and you done moved on from Trey Lance. You're gone. Yep

You go. Yeah. Hey, I'll go to are you Debo gone, right? Man, okay, so he got kiddos who else who else he who else he don't brand brand and I you could be bad You want Jennings Ricky Ricky Purcell Ricky? reversal Brandon IU could be back. Jawan Jennings. Ricky Purcell. Ricky Purcell. Ricky Purcell. Am IU gonna be back already after ACL? Yeah. Yeah, ACL don't take that long. Medicine different now, Joe.

Medicine different now. He did it real early, so he'll definitely be back. So he did it like in September, so October told me November December, January February March April May June July. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. We got a we got a few players coming back We got no Brandon are you coming back off ACL Stefan did coming back off ACL? Mm-hmm, and they seem like they're recovering faster because obviously technology is a lot more advanced and you know The rehab and stuff that they do is a lot more advanced and you know the rehab and stuff that they do is a lot more advanced and more so players are coming back faster than ever especially once you get over that mental that mental

block and understanding that you could trust your knee and then be comfortable cutting and moving oh man that's I mean that's that's the hardest part right there. In just three seasons he's's passed for 9,518 yards, 64 touchdowns, four playoff wins, NFC championship and a Pro Bowl. So that's the going rate. CJ Stroud is up next. Oh yeah.

Yeah. CJ Stroud up next, don't you? Absolutely. Listen, he finna get the bag. Got the guava down. Yeah. And, you know. Pretty soon you will have Jane Daniels and Caleb Williams. They're going to be coming down the pipe.

And boy, they they're going to set the mark. They finna have the quarterback out of control. Oh, they're going to reset it. Yeah. Yeah, that's 60. I mean, uh. I mean, with Josh Allen got his whole contract guaranteed. Two 65, oh Joe. Hey, well no, he got, we're tacked on. So it's like three 30. Hey, was that more than what was the Sean got? The Sean got two 30 guaranteed. Yeah.

Um, they got the same agent? No, Dachon had David Mugaleta. I don't know who Brock Purdy's agent is. David Mugaleta and I think all of them are athletes first, right? Who's, who's, Brock? Range sports. Oh yeah, I've never heard of them Deshaun David Mugaleta is his agent I think all them out of athletes first I

thought Todd France who had who has DAC cool cool? Look at, look at CEO Tom Frese. I think he's at Athele's verse. Okay, yeah. So. But yeah, I agree with you. Oh Joe. I think Brock Purdy He was deserving what had earned this giving what he had done his resume a pro bowl a Super Bowl NMC championship game to he had been going to two NMC championship game Remember he toys are his elbow best his elbow like first snap. Yeah, that was a playoff game What it does play on game? Yeah, and the championship game. Yeah, the chip in MC championship game to the Eagles. Yeah so was

And so yeah, he's he was earned. He earned this he earned this big payday I like to see guys and I like to see team reward the players you play well We're gonna reward you don't do all that haggle. I hate that they haggle all other positions except the quarterback They never do the quarterback position like that. Yeah I hate I hate that look man. Hey, I understand that he's important, but I've done my job I'm going to four Pro Bowls. I've been two or three times first team all-pro right and now you want to haggle me Hey They always do it

They always I'm trying to think who so CJ is gonna be up next year As a matter of fact if I'm the ravers I go here do something with Lamar What you mean signing? I stand him. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You gotta do it again I extend him. Yeah, hell yeah. You gotta do it again. Probably sometime in the middle. I bet they do something in the middle of the season. Watch. In the middle of the season or after the season next year? How many years you got left? Shoot, he just signed that big one. He signed a five year or two something.

Yeah. So what, he in his third year into that? Second year? This is the second year to it. Yeah. But you got certain people that's getting ready to overlap him, and they ain't got no business. You never know. Well, you see, we just named three, six, eight quarterbacks. We ain't mentioned Lamar. Hey. Lamar's about, I think Lamar is about 50.

They ain't got no business overlapping young bull yeah Hey Well, excuse me. Hold on. I got his bathroom real quick. Hold on. Oh, yeah Well, you better get him before he's he mess around with a soup bowl. Could now you have to pay him 70 million Lamar yeah He has two MVPs only are the only guy on this list that have a MVP is Josh Allen So Lamar has to that gonna have any Joe doesn't have any Joe has gone to the Super Bowl But he's the only one he and Brock Purdy that's on this list is going to the Super Bowl

None of the other guys have been played in a championship game Yeah, that's gonna be the separator for Lamar if he can get him one if he can win one it's over. Man. It's definitely over he can do that. What they got in the back that brink struck up beep beep. Oh for sure but they definitely have the team you know they re-signed they re-signed they didn't re-sign and they extended him uh King Henry gave him 25 million, two-year extension, 25 million. They extended him. I like Rashad Bateman. I like the receiver core they got.

They brought Andrews back. They brought Lively back, likely, I feel likely. They brought him back. Look, the defense is gonna be solid again. Offensive line is intact. Lamar's gonna be Lamar. So you know they're gonna be consistently, they're gonna be pretty good. They're gonna be there again. Offensive line is intact. Lamar is gonna be Lamar. So you know they're gonna be consistently, they're gonna be pretty good.

Yep. They just got, you know, the hardest thing is to break it through that wall the first time. Once you break through then all of a sudden it's just like, it happens. But that's the hardest thing you see. Josh Allen hadn't broken through yet because seemingly they have to go against my homeboy.

Only half full of people have been able to stare him down in the in the playoff game. Yeah. And that's been Joe Burrow did it and Tom Brady did it. Brady beat him in the soup bowl once and beat him in the soup bowl once and uh uh Jaylen Hurts just got him. Yeah. But it's tough. It's tough getting through that first time. Made for this mountain is a podcast that exists to empower listeners to rise above their struggles, break free from the chains of trauma, and silence the negative voices that have kept them small. Through raw conversations, real stories,

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calling him entitled, says he needs to shut up. Keep your mouth shut. You're going into the greatest league that's ever been for a sport we all love. You're gonna have a chance one day to make 500 million because guys like me and guys before me all went on strike so you could actually make more money. So keep your pie hole shut and go out there and play football and earn your keep, earn your respect. Keep your pie hole. Damn, boom. Boom, boom.

I work with Boomer and CBS for a decade And look I have a personal relationship with him. He's always been good to me He's really I mean, he's really a great generous guy, but he will now you get on the radio get on TV now He won't say I really feel. Oh, yeah Yeah, you know by this tongue. He's a no like that for he's been like that for a very long time If he has he has a long time They did these old these old these old school cats, man I don't like these young dudes these prima donnas coming to here getting all this money and uh-uh

I got I got it a few times I got it a few times. Man, oh yeah. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. I was sitting next to him when he gave it to you a couple of times. Oh yeah. Oh yeah.

And hey Joe, I love it too. Yeah, yeah. I love it. The thing is, Joe, and you can look, I mean you made great money compared to the guys before you. Now the guys that came after you they're making money now In ten years from now guys that were making 40 50 million all year like man. They got this joke They're making 80. Can you believe Joe he make it 80 million?

Hey, man, that's great. That's just it is what it is. That's that is just you know Hey, it was a part of time. Oh't show you can buy Cadillac for 3000. You get a nice three bedroom, two bath brick home for 35,000. Yeah. Timing is everything, man. Bro, you can't even furnish your house now with 35,000. By the time you put, I mean, hey,

I'm looking at them trying to give me some no patio furniture. And I looked at the price of patio furniture, I said, no, I'm looking at them trying to give me some more patio furniture. And I looked at the price of patio furniture, I said, no, don't worry about it. What? Yeah, yeah. And four and $5,000 for a piece. Yeah. Oh no.

One piece? Like for like a section, they seat three people. A section, okay. Yeah, patio furniture. I'm like, you know what, don't know if nobody will come here and swim in the pool anyway. A section, okay. Yeah, how do your furniture? I like, you know what, don't know nobody will come here and swim in the pool anyway. I said, don't even worry about it. I told you, don't even worry about it.

Ain't nobody, ain't nobody. I ain't been in the pool, I ain't been in the pool since I've been here. Right. And I've been here a year. Shelly had her feet in it, her and her girlfriend had her feet in it, that's it. Yeah, you know how to swim?

Are you scared? I do, I do. Okay, okay. Joe, You know how to swim? Or you scared? I do. I do. Okay. Okay. Joe, you know how to swim? I do. Man, like a fish.

Oh yeah. Oh, I forgot you live on a property, so I know you got a pool. Oh man, this is what we are. Hey, the country boys know how to swim, Ocho. Yeah. Ocho, I know you know how to swim. Oh, what? What?

Come on, man. Every summertime, as a little shorty, as a little jit, I used to bring in Charles, how they pulled with all my homies. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely know how to swim. Look, I grew up in a boys' club, Thurman's Boys and Girls Club in Little Rock, man.

They throw you in the deep end, boy. You gotta learn how to swim. You gotta learn. You got to. Yep. You go up in the country, it's hard not to swim because you're around water all the time. Yeah. Oh, yeah.

And then, you know, I got all these cousins and everything. So, hey, I was the youngest. Hey, if he could, hey, I saw them do it. They jump in, hey, I jump in right behind them. Hey, Lord, if they let something happen to me, ain't nobody going home. Oh, no, I don't like it. Everybody running away from home. Hey Jo in the country, you know, I see people jumping in lakes and everything

I know Florida water out there. Oh, so y'all jumping no lakes and then do you Yeah, yeah, you know gay to take your ass up under a lake canals That obviously the ocean but any anybody of water people getting there Obviously the ocean but any anybody of water people get in there But you ain't a Joe you ain't just see the man well with the alligator canoe. He was canoeing with his wife Oh, you were running from the cops. Well, he jumped in the water with the alligator So the cops couldn't come and get him And he said they're arguing with the cops in the gator the gator right there by him and the gator came close to him He's fighting with the gator and refusing to him, and the gator came close to him. He fighting with the gator and refusing

to get out in the water. You ain't see that? You know how the gator ate him up? Nah, man, the gator wasn't big enough to really hand him like he wanted to, but the gator tried to take a little bite of him, but he was too small. Oh, no.

He was too small to do something with him. I don't, I don't know how long it took the cops to get him out that water, but he was was in deep where they couldn't get to him And we got him boy that Gator was any bigger Now I say I seen I seen the story where a man and a woman Were canoeing and the Gator took his wife. What? Yeah, the Gator took his, ate his wife and I started thinking man did that man take his wife out there on the canoe trip to get rid of her?

I'm trying to understand how I get the wife and not well okay they only attack one person at a time that was Florida that one that definitely wasn't Florida. It wasn't Florida. That canoeing, yeah, it was. It wasn't Florida? It wasn't Florida. Yeah, they was talking about you need to watch, you need to be aware in Florida.

Oh yeah, and keep small pets, cause a lot of times people get their pets smashed cause they walking them close to the canal. Yeah. And you gotta realize the gator's an ambush predator. Yeah. So he's gonna lighten the speed. Yeah They short air and quickness is unbelievable and you won't see that man

Hey that look that Gator got that man puffed dog that man jump today You jumping in there saying your dog like that. Oh, absolutely you jumping in at a grander Gator open it Yep Yeah, you and I guess what and guess what uh in every Gator I see from that point on he gonna be dead I'm gonna be a vigilante every Gator. I see Gonna be barely up You're gonna be traumatized. You're gonna be traumatized.

Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Oh anything. Oh yeah. It don't matter. Like now I don't really like, but like when I like, when I walk my dog when I was a groupie, how the dogs, I always had that thing on me. So I'm walking at night just in case.

Bear, Bobcat, anything. Oh, you won't get it. Yeah. Oh, you got that thing. You know what you were carrying? What you had an AR? What, what, what, what? No, I failed the whole thing. No.

He's trying to be quick. What the hell you doing an AR? AR? AR? Nah. You fucked your head and you had that Draco? Okay. No.

Okay. Nah, nah, hell nah. Man, y'all ain't trying to take down no city. I just want, I just want, I just want the Bobcat or the Baron, whatever it is, gaining the get up off me. Or my pants. NFL owners plan to vote next week on a new playoff sitting proposed by the Lions, according to Albert Breyer.

If it gets passed, the number seven seats in each conference will be decided strictly by their record. A non-division winning team would be seated higher than a division champ if they have more wins. What you talking about, Ocho? Why do you keep messing with the game, Mom? The whole thing is to win your division. You can't look and see the thing is,

you take one isolated incident, Ocho. You took Minnesota. Okay, Minnesota was 14 and 3. Now they're a lower seed than say somebody won 10. But you didn't win your division. How many times have a 14-win team hasn't won the division? When it just so happens you're in the division with a team that was 15 and 2. Damn! The chance that happened again, ain't gonna happen like that again. No! Ain't gonna happen like that for a while.

I just, just honestly, me, leave the game alone. Leave the game alone, leave it how it is. You know? I think we're, we're, the people in position. They're tinkering too much. Yeah, they, they, they doing too much fluid. I feel bad for people that play on the defensive side of the ball. And I'm an offensive player.

Yeah. I'm handicapped so much, they can't even play what we have come to love and know as a game of football and it's true art. You just can't. You can't. Need a game alone, please. Joe, you know, they removed it. I think in the NBA, they removed division winners, right? Did they remove division winners?

Yeah. As far as getting higher seed. Yeah, I don't think there's an NBA. No. Because it used to be like that. Yeah, I don't think this an NBA. Nah. Cause it used to be like that. Yeah, if you want your division, yeah. You get an automatic, yeah. Yeah, it did. No, I don't wanna do that.

I don't, don't, don't, don't do that. Oh Joe, the Steelers are working on a trade for Crystal Lavi. They have the assets to give them a bunch of picks Are the same tanking to get arch manning? What are they doing on Joe? What does things do it? What really going on? Well, the arch manning ain't ain't wait. He's a sophomore right? No, junior. He'll be a junior. Yeah, he'll be a junior Oh, so he coming out this year and come out He could not say that he will.

He could cause we know the mannings they normally stay all four years. Yeah. And could you know, both of his uncles did his, uh, his dad got injured and had to had to retire, right? Had to give up football. Can you imagine? They from around there and they from New Orleans. Yeah.

Oh, yeah. Aren't you got drafted by the saints? Number two overall. Uh-huh. Ain't they from around there? Ain't they from New Orleans? They from New Orleans, yeah. New Orleans, yeah. Varjie got drafted by the Saints number two overall. Imagine if that, if Varjie go to the Saints, boy. And I like, and I also like that, I like Chris Olave to the Steelers. That gives Aaron Rodgers a nice target. Mm-hmm. That gives Aaron Rodgers a nice, a nice target.

Now that'd be a good one-two combo. Actually, that's a one-one combo. Yeah combo because Chris Pave ain't no goddamn number two and you know DK you know what DK McCaffett do yeah Brian Muth yeah that'd be a nice little setup yeah Aaron Rodgers gonna like that Ocho say Aaron Rodgers gonna be the quarterback yeah I could but come on now the writing is on the wall you already know you you know how to do Ocho speaking of New Orleans Joe you're gonna love this 10 New Orleans inmates escaped jail by breaking a hole Behind the toilet after breaching the wall at the oil New Orleans Justice Center in New Orleans

The inmates left through a door used to bring supplies around 1 a.m., scaled a wall, and ran across the interstate. The words, too easy, can be seen written on the wall above the hole with an arrow pointing toward it, according to a photo shared by the Sheriff's Office. The escape wasn't discovered until hours later, about 8 30 a.m., when staff noticed them missing during a routine head count. Man that was a coolie. What movie that was off of? Yeah I'm sure it sounds like Law Abiding Citizen a little bit. It just it was just one person and not 10. Yeah it was another one an older one. They put too easy. Hey this too easy. Where they gonna go with no money? Where they gonna go with no money? They had a plan, Ocho. Hey, the thing is, look, they're gonna go to where they're familiar.

They're gonna go where they're familiar. They're gonna go to family and friends. Instead of getting the hell away from Dodge, they gotta go somewhere they know, Ocho. You have no choice. You can't go nowhere unless you got that kind of money, huh? You can't go nowhere unless you got that kind of money. You can't go nowhere. Listen, if I'm breaking out especially depending on how long my time of my sentence was, if you'd serve a life, okay I get it. But if you if you ain't got that long to go, what's the point? Yeah. Unless you in there for an elbow, that's man, please please. Yeah, you're not alone now.

You don't, hey, anything. If you in there for a quarter or more, Yeah, okay. I don't know, maybe even a dime. I'm, I'm, I'm, no. A nick, I think you can sweat that one out. You can sweat a nick out. Shut up.

I'm not. I'm not. I ain't no joke, boy. Man, please. Hey, you ain't no joke to them. When you go back in the day, hey, I was just back in the day, I was at homeboy boy. Hey, man, please. You go back in the day, I said, homeboy, he go, hey, my homeboy fainted. The judge told him, say, when you wake up telling me, still got that time. Yeah, yeah, hey.

I know Casun did dimes and can't fight with nothing, but boy, please, got that fair time. He's like, hey, he's a judge, I can't do all that time. Do you want to say do what you can? Yeah Do what you can do what you can I I'll need you to do all of it, but just do what you can. Hey, my homeboy just came home, huh, man He just came over doing 17 fair time He just came over doing 17, Fed time. Ooh, ooh! You did 17. They give you 54 days off for good behavior, Fed.

If you be good the whole year, they give you 54 days off. Yeah, he came home, I said, well, what it was like, you know, doing that kind of time? You know, then talk, then tell, then do nothing. He did his time, hard time, and he say, man and people, they think they gave me all that time

and I was gonna be sad, but they gave me too much time to think. They gave me too much time to think. And I just, and listen, to hear that after all that time and it still had that positive mindset, and his mindsets are completely different. He's not the same person he was when he was out. I'm like, well damn, who is you now?

It's all completely different. And it's the same thing. Well, they gave me too much time to think. Yeah, I think better in my own bedroom. I was definitely thinking. I don't think well around a whole bunch of people. Joe, I don't know. Man, what?

You gotta live like that with a man sleeping on top of a bug? Oh, no, son. You know, when you in the feds, now I ain't never been there. I'm just telling you what I heard. It's like, it's like, it's luxurious. No, it all depends on what type of fed you got. if you got the white collar Fred times. Yeah, okay Yeah, you got them a medium security, right? work release program, yeah Well, you know, we hey this is your answer that federal prison not no more Or this or they send you with a That fair prison in in Florence, Colorado.

Bad. What? What 23 hour lockdown? 23 hour what? 23 hour lockdown. Man, listen, I need my video game, I can't do it. You ain't getting that, bro. I can't, I can't.

That's what they send the worst of the worst. They send the Unabomber, they send more fools like that. Right, right, right, right, right. People that blew up the World Trade Center, that's what he said. That's what he said the worst of the word That's in the Unabomber they said more fools like that right right right right right people that blew up the World Trade Center That's where they go damn What's the name El Chapo shorty? The invisible was in New York now El Chapo in Florence, Colorado. They told you moving. Yeah Hey Yeah, so no Yeah. Dang. Yeah. So no.

I'm good. I kinda like that side. Me too. I like the outside too. You gotta tease me. I'm gonna work some problems. Yeah, I'm good. I'm good right here.

All right, we're gonna get you out here on this one, guys. It's time for our final segment of the evening. Now it's time for Q&A. Yeah, look, Chad, we know Ocho. What? Chad wanted us to talk about AB was arrested for firing shots at people, correct? At, in the ceiling of his home, I guess.

Who, what? Oh, he was outside firing shots in the air. Who? AB. When this happen? But we ain't discussing that. When I was on the plane? Just now.

Oh, shit. J-Dub from Akron, congrats on your son's graduation. Thank you. He's talking to you, Ocho. Yeah. He smashed you in Spello Cinco. He would Now you won't beat me in fellow Cinco. Thank you. Say your son would beat you in fellow Hey, nobody be but with the Harvard boy

I went to Harvard my son and graduated from Arizona State that lets you know who the smaller person is and Obviously, I see he get the smarts from his mom Yeah, that's what they say smart. Yeah kids' smarts come from the mother side. And, hey, this mama did a hell of a job, man. All those that- I can't say I disagree with that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. All those that have kids-

Let me tell you something, Uncle Joe. I didn't do things the traditional way, right? You know? You do it the traditional way. But one thing about God, man, he don't make no mistakes. And boy, those I had kids from, they did one hell of a effing job with the kids, boy. Yeah, man.

Like, godly, man. Good job. Listen, I didn't do that. I had to do two of my three. Think about that, huh? I didn't do my graduation today, Joe, right? My son graduated. I done flew to Houston.

I had to make sure I got to Houston in time so I could do night cap. And my daughter graduated from Preview A&M in the morning. My son graduated on Monday, bro. He graduated from high school. Really? Yeah. You only got one kid, Joe?

Nah, I got three. My son, 18, my daughter is 11, and I got a three-year-old little boy Hey seven years apart, but they were my doing on the old Joe Yeah, you gotta you gotta get back in there Joe that a day Numbers that's bad luck. Yes, you can I got two boys one girl. I'm cool, man I'm man. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, shop suit you done

Yeah, I'm a little kid. Oh Joe. I want you to trip it back. Oh, oh Joe bad stop there That's why he could be in a quitter. Oh, cool. No, what about you? You're having a little kid. Don't be a quitter He tried to play the game I'm just practicing What about you having a kid don't be acquittal Expensive time no no here's more expensive what you choose to buy is No today's time is hard to read you not raising no kids like you and I got raised though, Joe, like Joe got raised. Right. You're not doing that. My grandfather used to always tell us, he'd say, boy, the worst kind of poor you can be is child poor. Well, I don't know about y'all. I'm finna have twins. You go right ahead. You finna have twins? Yeah, I'm finna have twins. I'm done. I'm out. It's gonna put you they're gonna put you at what?

Ten right at ten and I'm done I'm done. I'm Think I want to hear they better. They better be there better be called cars or bank accounts. They're the only twins I Hey It's so funny I'm trying not to laugh right, you know, I wouldn't you know, I have my work done, right? Hey, bro. It's so funny. I'm trying not to laugh, right? You know, I went, you know, I had my work done, right? Yeah. I was cutting my hair.

You know, the oil joke. You know, the oil thing you put on the clippers. Yeah. I dumped my ass. Forgetting I had work done. I went and tried to bite it and twist it off. My whole tooth then popped off, right? So I'm trying to be careful and laughing. I was hoping while I was doing the show, I hope it fell out. But it didn't fall out.

Did you put something on it or you just stuck it in the ground? It's just sitting there. It's just sitting there. I'm hoping to fight. I thought I thought. I don't bite nothing. Huh? I don't buy nothing with these. Yeah. Listen, I got I got it and then down on me until I'm sitting there

biting the old trying to put the top off with a damn tooth and went for shit. Hey, hey, I don't buy no with the front of my teeth. I bet everything with the side over the side. OK, OK, OK. Hey bet everything with the side Okay, okay If I look straight all you okay On the side look like a jack-o-lantern But I got a dentist I you know in Houston but tomorrow Sunday everything close tomorrow Saturday, bro Yeah, you know him our Saturday, you know, we're here

Okay, so the dinner's open tomorrow then You have to pay extra to get him to come here. But yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm gonna get I gotta get it I gotta get it get it bonded man. Wow. Yeah That's why they call you about 2000 3000. Come on You got it Three thousand. Come on I just didn't get it behind the bank. That's about $80 man. Come on. Okay, you want to see the air's a long great Okay, oh So so you play that man two thousand three thousand dollars put your two back here

But you won't pay me my buddy and it's not gonna cost that much y'all just y'all creating a number I'm just know I'm telling you old church to go from cuffs when it cost to put your two back in, but you won't pay me my money. And it's not gonna cost that much. Y'all just y'all creating a number. I'm just know I'm telling you all choice to go for concuss what it costs to put back in. I'm telling you. No, that's that's too. That probably cost you a thousand. First of all, that's an emergency. So you got him coming in because most dentist's offices aren't open on Saturday. Right. Now you got to call and hope somebody knows the dentist. I think dentist's offices are open on Saturday. They just close a little earlier than normal. No, they're not open on Saturdays. Anybody in the chat, y'all know a dentist office I can go to, man, to make sure my tooth don't fall out, man.

Where you at, bro? You say you're in Houston? I'm literally in Houston, right downtown. I'm in a club right now. Joe, I swear to God, I'm in a club. I'm just in the back office. It's called... It's cracking. It's cracking.

It's like that. It's crowded. Uh, Ojo, I just told you don't mention Houston. I just told you that. I didn't say Houston. You did say Houston. No, I'm talking about Allen Houston, the basketball player. Oh Can't be better say I can go to a wedding after party and at the shawty show play talk of spades for Ocho Cartier's or some shape BSOP didn't want to mess up grant his name

Somebody call y'all out man. I ain't calling calling me out Because you do definitely we can we, we can play for whatever. Not these Cartiers, because you know, I need them. But we can put some money on it. Shit, make it light on yourself, man. I don't know, Ocho, I gotta see you play a couple of times before I bring you on as a partner now. Hey, he look like he might be reneging in some more.

Yeah, man. I ain't gonna renege, man. Listen, spades is what I do now. I don't play no game. There's one, there's one thing about it. I do it. There's a lot of things in life I play with. If Spades ain't one of them.

I don't know, Joe. I have to, I might need to see you play. I might need to see you play a couple of hands. All right. I got you. And see how well you can read the board. Oh, I can read the board. How well you can, because you need to be able to read your partner.

I can't. If your partner. Not only can I read my partner, I already know what's gonna happen. Listen, when I go to Vegas, I know how to read cards. They don't even let me in the MGM no more. I can't even go to no casinos because I know how to read cards.

I learned to beat the machine. I learned to beat. Well, first of all, it's not counting. It's not called reading cards, it's not counting. It's not called reading cars It's called counting so that way I know you Read them I can't even go to Vegas no more. I'm banned David D Cruz say oh Joe Joe if your barber messes up your cut do you say something or did you not just never go back? I ain't gonna lie. It's been time boy

Bobbitt and then to mess me up. Yeah, I ain't going back Really? And like if I'm on the road Let's say like when I was playing and we'd be on the road and I needed to cut and I asked somebody hey man Send me somebody to you know who can cut and he cut cut me up and it was horrible Yeah, I may not say nothing to him, but I'm gonna tell his man somebody man, you know Hey Joe as a matter of fact, I know the dude to cut your hair from Little Rock. He from Little Rock He hit off the hook. Yeah, I'm Ari

Little short do yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I told him people Bryson We might be talking about two different people. There's a little dude, he's either off the hook. He from, he a homeboy, he said, man, Joe my homeboy, I be cutting Joe up. Yeah, what was his name, Dre or Amari? I don't even know his name, I call him Peebo. Well, both of them from Little Rock,

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In the fall of 1986, Ronald Reagan found himself at the center of a massive scandal that looked like it might bring down his presidency. Did you make a mistake in sending arms to Tehran, sir? No. No one was let go. It became known as the Iran-Contra affair. And I'm not taking any more questions. In just a second, I'm going to ask attorney general.

I'm Leon Neyfok, co-creator of Slow Burn. In my podcast, Fiasco, Iran Contra, you'll hear all the unbelievable details of a scandal that captivated the nation nearly 40 years ago, but which few of us still remember today. The things that happened were so bizarre and insane, I can't begin to tell you. Please do. To hear the whole story, listen to Fiasco, Yaron Contra on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I got to find out from Joe what's a what's a people real name man you know you call somebody a nickname so long Joe you don't even know the real name.

Not the real name yep. So hey man you know such and such I said no because when people ask me hey Sharp you remember such and such I say from Savannah State say, do you have a nickname? Yeah, they call me, oh yeah, I know exactly who you're talking about. Or a former teammate. You done called somebody a nickname for 25, 30 years. Man, don't ask me their real name.

Right, because we don't know. I don't know it. Now, I explain, look, I've only had a handful of barbers, especially like Joe, who's my barber in Atlanta. He's been cutting my hair since 94. So he's been cutting my hair 30 years. Nobody else has ever cut my hair in Atlanta except him.

Growing up, a guy named Reverend Green and a dude named Bobbily Wilkins cut my hair. Then when I couldn't find him, Luther Maynard cut my hair. And then I went to college, you know, you go to college, you find out one of your teammates can cut them $2, two feet of haircuts, come in handy. Yeah, yeah. So a dude named Coop, and then they had a homeboy named Mud cut my hair. Yeah, I got a youngboy named Mud cut my hair.

Yeah, I got a young kid out here named Maury. He's from Little Rock, but when I met him, I didn't know he was from Little Rock. I'd just seen his work on IG, and I was in Atlanta, and I just hit him up, and I went and got a cut, and then he started telling me, he went to Partview High School that's in Little Rock, the same high school my mom went to.

Is the dude in the country, is he short? short now this dude I'm talking about ain't short But the name Dre who used to cut my hair he a little shorter than a Mari but yeah, okay That's that's probably with his Drake. Maybe yeah. Yeah Dr. Frank L Bellamy said as my grandma used, Lord, if this ain't the best podcast, I say glory. Great show, fam. Doc, thank you so much. Thank you for your support. Joe, you don't know Dr. Frank L. Bellamy, but she probably was one of our first five subscribers. Oh, really? She's been to all—she came to our first—our very first road show that was in Vegas, she

was there. The Atlanta show, she was there. The New Orleans show, she was there. She's probably gonna be at the Charlotte show also. I mean, she's been, I mean, our family, our supporters at Nightcap, they support. They come. Big time. So Doc, and Ann, she found out my brother was gonna be playing, I think it's at Myrtle Beach.

And she always goes down there and I said man look here. I got a One of our listeners on club nightcap a name is dr. Frankie l Bellamy. She gonna come up Say what's up? And sure enough? He's she said she came up. Greedy Grymman said two picks ice picks quick picks Nixon six. I like it. Big Mike said, go New York. Oh, Joe, talk. You'll talk. Yeah, listen, I'm a heat fan.

I'm a heat fan and I was only going for the Knicks to piss off my baby. I'm sure she's watching. She's emotionally unstable right now. She was crying because obviously Boston went home. I've never seen someone love a team that much, you know, where you invested that much time and as much as he be motioned into a team crying. Yeah. What are you doing? Shana? Yeah. If I lose, I might cry. I ain't crying. Somebody else lose.

Hey, I hope you're okay, mama. Go Knicks. I hope you're okay, mama. Go Knicks. Pat Dobson, I hope fans are understanding better how this second apron works. Celtics and the Warriors are a perfect example of how it affects championship windows. Oh, they, they did it so because they want teams to be like, uh, to be able to do what, uh, the Warriors did by getting KD and have KD and have Steph and have Clay and have Draymond They don't want that they don't want the big the big three Miami Heat again. They don't want that I think you can do it, but you're gonna be paying two hundred million dollars in luxury tax

Right, and then you jump in that second apron and become a repeater Okay Yeah, let us laugh Okay. Let us laugh. Uh, Ocho Iso, in your opinion, which NBA team had the worst finals loss? The worst finals loss? Yeah. Probably be somebody who got swept, right?

That was probably supposed to win the series and got swept? Yeah. Worst finance laws. The Lakers have to be up there when they got beat by Detroit. It might be, it might be. Might be the Heat when they got beat by the Mavericks. It might be Houston when they beat Orlando with Penny and Shaq. Yeah.

But Elijah Warren was on a different level. Shaq was on a different level too. Shaq was young. I know he was young, but he was still dominating the league. They couldn't do nothing with him. It's just not only was Elijah Warren great, but the guys around him played. Jamey Smith hit those seven3's in that one game. But think about it, they had Shaq and Kobe and they got gentlemen's suite by Detroit.

Hey, who was on the Detroit team during that time? Rashid Wallace, Rip Hamilton. Rashid, Big Ben Wallace, Chauncey, Rip Hamilton and Taishan. Yeah, Taishan Prince. Okay. I think they had, I think McDycey, uh, uh, Rip Hamilton and Tayshon. Yeah. Tayshon Prince. Okay. I think they have, I think Mcdice came off the bench. Didn't they have Mcnice coming off the bench? He might've, he might've came off the bench there, but you think, I don't think that, I don't think that's worse than the Houston.

Boy, look here before Mcnice messed that me up, boy, when he was in Denver, I was in Denver when he was there. You were nice? Yeah. And man jump out the gym was in Denver when he was there. You were nice. Yeah. What? And man, jump out the gym was- Oh yes. Oh yes. McKnight's was like that.

Jump out the gym like Shannon Brown jump out the gym? Yeah, he was six, eight and jumped like that. Yeah, I played with McDyce and Phoenix. Obviously it was later in his career, but yeah, man, he played in Alabama. So I'm an SEC guy. So I always kept up with them dudes man. All them guys from Alabama can jump. Robert Orr, people don't realize Robert

Orr used to play above the rim before he messed his back up and just started shooting threes but when he first got to the league. Right. Oh lord. What Jason Richardson uh? Michigan State. Michigan State? Well he could jump too he was another. His son can jump too. But who? Oh his son. He got a son. Yeah, he jumped like what? In Crete.

Yeah. Yeah. But Mcdice, Antonio Mcdice was real nice. I was in Denver when he got there. All them guys, Matumbo, Jalen Rose, Rodney Rogersney Rogers, McNice, uh, Mello. Yeah. All of them. Uh, Deshaun Allen, who do you think is the strictest coach in the NBA back

in the day Chuck Daly, Pat Riley or Casey Jones? I mean, well, is there somebody more strict than Pat? Yeah, I was trying to live I don't know Pat Pat run a tight ship over there man. I think he'd been doing this since since the days He coached with the word the Nick's in makers. Yeah. Yeah Magic magic said he was he was like that when magic got it. So and then you know, we went to the he went to the mix

and What they think about their Mason they had make Their oak. They had a Xavier McDaniel Charles Smith They he cost all the yeah, they had boy they had a team full of power for it. That's it Hey come to the aid. That's what they say, come to the, hey, that's why they say come to the plane if you want to. You come the first time, you ain't coming back, I bet you. No, son.

They put you on their flow for sure. Smacks at halftime said, hey, uh, Joe Ocho, start bitch cut, Luca Ant-Man SGA. All right. Yo, man, y'all do this one more time. All right. I'm going with in is year So you cut Luca I said I said what I said Oh Joe

Say it I don't know what else you want from me I said what I said, but I would know who you starting On what you said you said I gotta start one bitch. I start start cut bitch My N is EA You go star SGA Whole Luca Hey Joe, they got me last night they gave me to Randy Moss and damn Calvin Johnson come on Point exactly Okay, cut leading there one demo, huh you gotta cut somebody man come on Same thing I said

And I would just be where you going with Oh Joe And I would just say, where you going with Ocho? Shoot, listen, I love the personality of Ant Man. You can't go wrong as a toss up between Ant and SGA. So I'm starting Ant, I'm benching SGA, and I'm cutting Luca. Damn. All right, what you doing? You gotta be careful on this one.

I got the next one. I got the next question. Okay. You got another start, bitch, cut. What's the next one. I got the next question. Okay, you got another start bitch cut What's the next one? Erin always asked start bitch cut chase. Oh Joe AJ green. Oh, that's easy. I got that show We have AJ. I'm sorry, bro I'm sorry. No, I'm sorry. I'm starting chase

I'm sorry. No, I'm sorry. I'm starting chase Benching Benching AJ. I'm cutting me I'm gonna start chase. I mean oh, I'm sorry. Oh Joe. If something ever chase me the bro up be the breather. I see you in Other than that and ah AJ I'm sorry AJ I got it. I got to go about dog. Oh Joe. He had to get him in the game Now fuck that, you know, you know, it's funny whenever come to any kind of rankings Why I always put everybody before me? I don't I don't be caring Now they got to be I got a really fake they go before me before I put them before me I just put somebody up there just to be humble that ain't happening. Right? Hey, so I J 17 say oh Joe

Uncle no Joe. You're an NFL general manager. Who's your first pick date or alive? First pick. Yeah. Start a franchise with obviously, right? Yep. I'm taking Brady. You can't go wrong with the quarterback position.

If you give me an offensive play, I'm taking Tom Brady Brady you give me a defensive player. I'm taking LT Well, I was gonna say I'll say a defense man won't say LT Yeah Oh, I'm gonna start with I get if you start with any other position on offense you you crazy. I'm taking the quarterback I'm taking Tom Then defensive play I'm taking Tom. Then defensive player, I'm taking LT. Give me, give me, I'm gonna give me, give me Joe Montana. Okay.

And give me LT on the other side. Who you starting, who you starting your franchise with, Joe? Yeah, I don't know, Ocho. Nobody said. Joe said he started a franchise with Ocho. I'm probably, I'm probably gonna go with, I'm probably go with my homes. Okay. I'm probably I'm probably gonna go with I'm probably go with my homes. Okay On defense I don't know. I say I say right I say Ray Lua

Okay, that's good Even after you saw what I did to Ray you gonna pick rate Why saying race smack you come across a mill? One play what about the other hundred plays I smacked him Do you ready to him in the end zone and knock yourself out? Yeah, we're saying That's one time. Oh, did it? No, he hit all he hit him cross come across the middle knocking his helmet off Yeah, you saw I got up finna beat his ass, right? Yeah, you saw I got up finna beat his ass, right? What's up with the top ass that got up? What happened? What?

What? Ed Reed had to hold me back. Hey, I was by the sleep ray ass, boy. I got hit. I jumped for the ball. Man, he hit me up underneath my chair. My helmet went flying. Good deal.

I swore for God, Joe, before I hit the ground, I was trying to get up and get out of the way. and he hit me up underneath my chair, my helmet went flying. Hey, I swear for God, Joe, before I hit the ground, man, I was trying to get up before. I thought your head was in that helmet. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Ray was finna get his hand. And let me tell you about the story, Joe. Go ahead. It stopped.

So I waited for Ray outside the locker room, and I think he went out the back door, cause we were gonna have to square up. Like, he hit me like that. So I waited for Ray outside the locker room and I think he went out the back door cuz I Had to square up like yeah hit me like that So I went to the teen bus and was banging on the you know banging on the door, but he never come outside Yeah, yeah, you know you know you know they call me hell a hand right Yeah, yeah, they call me hell a hand I know that yeah That's why I ran for the fight.

Sometimes like if I fight somebody like it feels like you fighting two people like that's that's why they call me Hella hands. Yeah. They call you Hella leg because you go run. I mean if you call a route. Yeah. I question is, what are your top four old school cars? Mm. Ooh. A 70 Chevelle 456, cowl induction, LS6,

1969 Camaro. Oh, whewee. 1969 Camaro. I would say 1970 or 71 Cuda. And then just for good measure, I'll take the 250 GTO That ain't really no old school and I really try to spend you know, 25 30 40 billion dollar for a car So I go another old school. I'll go I'll take a I take a 442 cut or I'll take a Cutlass Yeah, okay, or I'll take I'll take a GTO God take over or a Ram air So first one I want that I want that uh

That's your veil Yeah, well nice Got a hat a she bea that's the first. That's the first shabelle Kyle induction 456. I got a seven. I got a 71 shabelle black and gray and I got a 72 Impala Big body Huh convertible 70. Yeah. Yeah, you want to sell it Huh? Convertible? 72?

Yeah. You want to sell it? Do I want to sell it? You want one? You looking for one? I've been looking for a dump for the longest. You had all them dumps and you got rid of them. Well, all Mazos bought them off me.

Now they, in Miami, it ain't even about, like for me, I did like six Chevy's when I was, so me and my homeboys had some. When I move, we all move as one. I ain't one of us but it's all about racing and going fast now I just I just I'm about looking good You want to go fast? Everybody turned all the dumps in Miami in the race cars. Yeah You got a box you got a box Chevy. I like the box Chevy. I hate the box Chevy I've always hated it You got a box Chevy? Nah, I ain't like the box Chevy. I hate the box Chevy.

I've always hated it. Nah, I ain't no box Chevy guy either. I'm gonna get me an old school car one day. I had an LTD. Y'all know what the LTD is? The L-Dawg. I had one in my high school. Real? Hey look, I had one in my high school. Boy, Hey look, I had one in my high school.

Boy, we had to stop. Me and the homeless had to stop in five, ten minutes just to put some oil in it. You took, I was about to say that. You had to stop every, oh yeah. That's the one thing about them old cars, boy. It's some work. You gotta do some work with them old cars, boy. Because you gotta realize, them cars 50 years old. They ain they meant to be driven on the rig So hey boy. Hey pull that car side the road. Don't be leaking out all over my grass Killing by grass Boy look that thing leave a mean stain in the driveway. Yeah, absolutely My grandma did not conclude this episode of nightcap Hey, my grandma did not. That concludes this episode of Nightcap.

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