Club Shay Shay - Nightcap - Hour 2: Lamar goes off, Purdy wants big money, Travis Hunter’s fiance

Episode Date: December 16, 2024

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to Lamar Jackson going off for the Baltimore Ravens in their win against the New York Giants. Later, Unc and Ocho discuss San Francisco 49ers QB Brock Purdy reportedly seeking a contract “at the top of the quarterback market” around $50M per year,  the internet is in an uproar over Deion “Coach Prime” Sanders having to get Travis Hunter’s fiance to stand and celebrate his Heisman win and much more!03:13 - Ravens vs Giants07:30 - Bengals vs Titans14:00 - Chargers vs Bucs25:00 - Texans vs Dolphins38:00 - Kyle Pitts58:18 - Best Cities for Dating1:04:42 - Q & Ayyyyy(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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The Ravens have lost eight of their past nine games against their biggest division rivals. The Steelers can clinch the AFC North title with a win. That's the one team that Lamar does not have a winning record against in the division. Ocho, Ocho, what you got? Hey, that's going gonna be a good one Listen the Raven played the Giants today, you know, you don't get a pat on the back for that You don't get a pat in the back for beating goddamn Giants now Obviously, we know what Lamar's record is against the Steelers. It hasn't been good since he's been in the NFL. I

think for them This would be a player of would be a playoff, not only a playoff atmosphere game, but the type of team you would have to face in the playoffs. So to have a good showing would be, it would behoove everybody that's a part of that organization, including Lamar. They have a good showing against the Steelers this Saturday.

You know? I mean, to do what you did to the Giants, you know, that's cool. It's a nice warm-up It's a tune-up. I call it a tune-up game for the real game come Saturday And I love because if I'm not mistaken the Steelers also the Steelers and their chiefs Are one of the three teams that played this three games in 11 days, right? Yeah, because yeah Mm-hmm. Yeah, because they play set because the Steelers play Saturday. And then they turn around again and play Wednesday.

And if I'm not mistaken, I think the Ravens do the same thing. I see everybody got to do it. Shouldn't be no no excuses. Put your everybody everybody big boy put your big boy briefs on that. Let's go. But that was the thing, like you said, Lamar had with 21 to 25, 295 touchdowns. He was sacked twice.

Josh Johnson even came into the game. They ran the ball 31 times for 170 yards. Lamar had six for 65. Derek Himmer was 14 of 67. Hill had two for seven. Ali had eight for 32. But see, that's the balance that you need. When they run it more than they throw it, they win. It's not that complicated.

Now look, bro, the Giants, I mean, they're NFL team, but barely. If it was soccer, they'd have got sent down to the lower league, you know what I'm saying? They'd have been playing so bad. You know how they devote some of the team, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

They would have gotten demoted. They would have gotten demoted. But this is what you have to do when you go on the road and you playing a team that you know you're better than, you don't d-dally around with them. You go ahead you killing that with a sledgehammer You let them know here we go again. Yeah, you damn right get y'all up out of here So by the third quarter, I want the fans. I want the 50,000 fans that came I want them to start filing out of there and I want more planes to come overhead with more banners Hey, we're gonna be back and we're gonna keep doing this

until you fire everybody. And it couldn't happen till it not. I was, you know what? When is John Mara gonna read some letters? Because he was quick to tell you about the letters that he wrote, that he read, how angry the fans were with Colin Kaepernick. Read some of the fans' letters now.

Tell us what they think. You think? Nobody asked you about the fans. Nobody ask you what the fans were saying when they wrote you letters and you read them. Now, we're asking you. You know, he... Can you read some of the fans' letters?

He know better. He know better. He can read the room. Read the room, brother John. Read the room. He know what time it is. He he he he. Yes.

It ain't getting any better anytime soon. No, it absolutely not. Until you get a quarterback, I don't care. I don't care who come in there. No, you gotta have a quarterback and they don't have one. And I hope your door doesn't go there either. The biggest beat the tight is 37-27. Burrow had another big performance through his 36,

league leading 36 touchdown pass on the season, which broke his own franchise record with three games to go. But he also had two picks and a fumble. T Higgins size Jamar chase agent. Oh, T Higgins. Oh, I didn't know Chase was with Rock. Rocky Arsenault. Yeah.

He was a Marshal Fox agent. He's also, he was Zeke, he Zeke Elliott agent. So I've been knowing Rock, man I've been knowing Rock 20 years. He always told me, man, you don't never give me no love. I didn't know I was supposed to get agent's love. But now he a cool dude, he a good dude. I like Rock a lot. Like I said, I've been knowing rock 25 years

Ever since he was coming over to the Pro Bowl with Marshall Joe burrow was 26 of 20 37 to 71 3 touchdowns 2 interceptions with a fumble Chase Brown had 25 carries 97 yards of touchdown. They had 26 rush attempts 101 yards Chase finally did not get in the end zone. Somebody finally kept him under 100 yards. He had nine catches for 94. Higgins had five for 86, but didn't have a tough. The only thing, look, they really would have had a tough night

because Burrell, he had nice numbers, but he didn't play particularly well, Ocho. The only thing that saved him, you know who he was up against. Who was play particularly well, Ocho. The only thing that saved him, you know who he was up against. Who was up against him, Ocho? Will Levis. Will Levis. Through his league leading fourth pick six,

he had three iron twoes. Mason Rudolph came in and said, you know what, Will, I can't leave y'all here hanging. I'm gonna throw one so you don't feel left out. So, fourth. Hey, Tennessee bad, huh? I don't know who's worse. I don't know who's worse. Gi Hey, Tennessee is bad. I don't know who's worse. I don't know who's worse.

Giants, Tennessee, who else in that group? Who else in that group with them? It's really bad. The Jags. Oh, the Jags. It's almost- The Raiders. Who? The Raiders.

The Raiders, the Raiders, the Raiders in that group too, man. It got to the point, I'm watching the game of football and I love the game of football and I love good consistent quarterback play. And I understand how important the quarterback position is when it comes to competing against another team. You're only good as your quarterback. And the C-wheel level,

the C-wheel level is played the way he plays based on what I see, what he can possibly be if he just protect the ball. It's like I don't want to say wasted talent, it's like it's bad. Somebody got to get a hold of him and really mend a little bit, man, and get him to, when I look at him, I look at him like a damn like a Josh Allen, man. Just big, mobile, dual threat type quarterback. It's just his decision making is horrible. His decision making is horrible.

Or maybe his accuracy. I don't know which one it is. In order for him to be quarterback, the team that he's playing against, they can't have on white in their jerseys because they got white in Tennessee and he think that's his teammates. Damn, man.

Bro, I'm like, bro, I'm like, Ocho, and then your guys had a pick six that he let fumble the ball out of the end zone, that was a judge back. So they could have been 40, 40, so the game could have been blown over way before then. I mean, 27, 37, and it was like respect, it really wasn't that close. I mean it was close early

Because once burrows stock turning the ball over the game got kind of got out of hand But there but see here is the thing everybody says now he had three turnovers a day they won the game Had they lost like they did the seal of Steelers, what role did those three turnovers play? Cause y'all blame the defense, Ojo. You did, you did, you blame the defense. So does three turnovers play a role and your team losing? Yeah, it does, it does. I mean, if that's what had happened,

but that's not what would have happened, we won the game. But it did happen against the Steelers. It did, it did, it did. Okay, okay, we good. Okay, we can move on then. Oh, joke. Will Levis was benched. The Titans had six turnovers.

Four. You got to practice. In order to be this bad, you gotta practice. So you go out there and say, hey, we're not having any completions. We wanna throw incompletions and turnovers. Ain't no way you that bad, you practice. That's what I would get frustrated by.

Man, I'm putting all this time in. I'm watching all this tape. And I, and my quarterback. Keep messing up. And listen, I know how you feel. I know how you feel. Is them jeans that they used to wear? I don't know if they still wear them,

but I'm from the South. So those girls used to wear those jeans with no back pockets on them, we used to call them smooth booty. Smooth? I ain't never heard. They didn't have no back pockets on them. Right, I ain't never heard of them.

Yeah, yeah, them old chick jeans. You remember, hey, hey, somebody check those little, them chick jeans. What kind of jeans? Chick, C-H-I-C, chick. Yeah, I ain't never heard that. Oh, that was them, oh, whoa, the girl had the thing.

Back then? Hold on, hold on, where, where, where y'all was from? Down in the 80s. I know, I know, the 80s, the what, I mean, hold on. What where where where y'all was from? That's the 80s. I know. I know the 80s. I mean, so in Atlanta, everywhere, everybody had. Yeah, you better tell him. You better tell him. Hey, anybody. Anybody in the chat? We had those in Miami. I ain't never heard of that. If if you were somebody, you have a pair. They were a little expensive too. So,

you know, we don't say expensive, how much we talking? Like 30 dollars? Okay, back then, back then, that's a lot. Yeah, yeah, what you talking about back then? Yeah, 30 dollars was damn a bone load of money, baby. Yeah, that's a lot of money back then. Yeah, baby, woo. Check jeans, I ain't never heard of that.

Yeah, yeah. Girls, I'm trying to think, was it, was it Farrah Fawcett, one of those angels used to wear them. And B. Dahl Sassoon. What you know about B. Dahl Sassoon, boy? B. Dahl Sassoon FG, yeah, yeah. Gloria Vanderbilt.

That's throwback. What you know about Gloria Vanderbilt? Now that's throwback. I remember them names. Oh yeah. Yeah, they were back in the days, Ocho. Lord. Ocho, the Bucks run rough shot over the Chargers.

The Bucks rack up 505 total yards. LA had 207. Mike Evans, 159 yards. Ocho, he's now 251 yards short. He needs to average 83.67 yards. So basically 84 yards a game over the last three games to reach that. Oh Baker. That's one thing about O'Shaiken Baker. O'Shaiken Baker. If you need something O shaking bag. Oh, yeah I like that. You'll make sure you get it now. I'm sure ensure Baker may feel

They will make matter of fact the coaches the offense the coordinator. They gonna make sure you get it It's you Oh, yeah So what a day what which who wore those jeans? Which angel wore those jeans? Was it Kate? Was it Farrah? Farrah who?

Fawcett? Farrah Fawcett, well, Farrah Fawcett majors. She's married to a $6 million man. The who? Maybe it was Suzanne Summers. She married the who? Oh, they had pictures. Baker was 22 of 27, 288 yards,

four touchdowns, one pick, one sack. Bucky Irving, 15 carries, Buck 17. White, 15 carries, 64. They ran the ball, Ocho, 39 times for 223. Justin Herbert was a razz, he had a pick, the sack three times. Tyler Honecky came in, one for one, four yards. But they really, really not a whole lot.

Tampa did an outstanding job. Like I said, they pressured it. Levante David had a sack and a half. Hall had a sack and a half, but they did a great job of neutralizing 11 carries for 32 yards. And that's what I'm saying. It's going to be very interesting to see Tampa and Dallas,

because that's going to tell us a lot. That's going to really, really, really tell us a lot. Oh, wait, about who? No, I'm saying that that'll be an opportunity because if the Falcons lose tomorrow night and then the Tampa wins they gonna win the they they sort the division. Hold on but we know we know what's gonna happen we know how that game's gonna turn out. We know how that game's gonna turn out unless for some god forsaken reason we see a different

Dallas Cowboys you know and the goddamn Bucks lay egg I don't think I don't think that's going to happen probably not you know especially with the way they're playing that momentum is gonna carry on into the next game somebody say it was Farrah Fawcett yeah I remember y'all ain't tell me it was Farrah Fawcett had them jeans on I used to talk to Farrah back in the day too. Huh? She from Corbyn, Chris? Yeah, told you. Oh, when she was on that, she had that red bikini on, that poster? Yeah, that's it. The Jets beat the Jags 32-27. Jets snapped the losing streak. Rogers, 289 yards, three touchdowns as the Jets

finally pulled out a game in the fourth quarter. This was vintage. Aaron Rogers, Devontae. Yeah, Devontae. Again, he had back-to-back weeks in Florida. What's the weather like right now in Florida, okay? We got a little cold front, so it's about 75. What's the weather like right now in Florida? What about we got a little cold front, so it's about 75. What's the weather like in New York?

Oh, right. Hey, I'm so happy I'm out here now, right? Boy, it's about 23, boy. Boy, about 23. Now, look at this game last week against Miami, the weather, look at the game this week against Jacksonville. Aaron Rodgers, he was 16 or 30, 289, three touchdowns, the only sack once. Devontae, nine catches, a buck 98,

second biggest, second best receiving day of his career, two touchdowns, a 71 yarder, he had nine targets. Matt Jones, I don't know what Matt Jones was thinking on that last interception. I'm like, bro, what are you doing? Do you not know the route? I guess it's a route, Ocho, if the corn is on top of you, you pull up. If you're on top of him, you throw it.

Mac, you can see it. Right. Oh, Lord. Hey, hold on, Unc, so you trying to say, now I'm thinking even gonna see it. Right. Right. You think that's not you don't think that just a coincidence. So you really think he just playing good and Okay, I like this you might be owning something that you might be owning something yes Now I have that posted with fair on and man the poster called money back there dollar Channel shopper had no money like that and where was I gonna put it at you can put it in the house

What so you think my girl put them bad stop playing Oh Bad bad portable. Yeah Stick it on there stick it on that. Uh,, that cinder block wall with scotch tape. No. I had to wait, I got this Savannah State to put them Jet Beauties on the wall. You remember the Jet Beauties of the week? The Beauty of the Week? But listen, but-

My wall was covered. Hey, I never forget, boy. You know, back in my day, man, I had dated by a few, you know, a few of the jet beauties of the week but Yeah, all right. I you know, what don't you always wanted me to get beauty? I know Yeah, why should I not win I went on a date with about About four five of them man, you know

Tell you where they from you yeah, it's a really from I said, you know, you it goes, you know, in the body will tell you where they from. You've yes, it's a read from, I used to go, you know, you hit the yellow pages. You know, name, name, name and everything being there, man. Yeah, I'd be like, hey, I figured about it now. As a matter of fact. I think I might have met one person that's ever been in a magazine who that Who I got a five-mill magazine Today do a hold on I'm trying to thank you did you mean I ain't seen a magazine. So like what's the magazine now? FHM something like that. They still got they still got magazines like that

Huh, oh Yeah, I meant I invented yeah, no I Know I've been to the man I go to the grocery store. I'm trying to get in and out. I ain't going to no magazine Man, I go to the grocery store. I'm trying to get in and out. I ain't going to no magazine now Hey Matter of fact, hey listen with social media. You don't even need magazines no more. Huh? Like when you think about it You don't even need magazine. I'm right there You got a point though with you. You got a point now, you know i'm saying oh, Joe that you hey when you're right You can't possibly be wrong

Good point, good point, good point. But no, but look, I'm watching this game and look, he missed a throw here and there, but because normally Rodgers is not gonna be 16 or 30. Rodgers is normally 22 or 30. But he got going, he and Devontae had that thing going today. And this is Devontae, this is, you know, he and Devontae when Devontae was becoming an all-pro,

Rodgers was winning back to back MVP. This is how this connection look for 16 games, not just a handful of games. Now, do you think they can get back to this consistently, though? I mean, obviously, we have to end the season. We have to end the road. But are we going to hold on? Are they going to are they going to play? Are they going to play Jacksonville again? No. Oh, what about what about your dolphins? You know, your dolphins cook. Yeah, they don't wantville again? No. Oh, what about your dolphins?

You know your dolphins cook, right? Yeah, they don't want no smoke with us. I'm just saying. I just think as long as the weather's warm. Hey, I'm telling you, I'm gonna tell you what's gonna happen now. It takes a little small assurance like today. They get people excited that's in positions of power

who write the goddamn checks to bring somebody back. What you saw we was able to do today in the second half? Yeah, ain't no reason why we shouldn't bring him back because he gives us our best chance to win. I'm not telling you what I heard, I'm telling you what I know. But the Jets get up, but it's over. Yeah, it's over. Four and 10, they ain't going nowhere. Yeah, it's Michael Lewis, author of Going Infinite, Moneyball, The Blind Side, and Liar's Poker.

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getting stretched off the field. Ocho, what we gonna do about quarterback throwing balls like this, they throw an ambulance ball. Yeah, that play was unfortunate. It was unfortunate. I think Tua plays very well on script, you know, on timing plays. And you know, he sees the read and he just lets it go.

I don't think he plays well off script, you know, he sees, he sees a read and he just lets it go. I don't think he plays well off script. You know, when, when the timing of a play is disrupted, disrupted, you know, based on what he sees defensively, um, it's unfortunate. It's unfortunate. You never, I mean, listen, I'm not, I'm not a quarterback, but you never want to see a player or your teammate, you know, laid out like that. Man, it's a bad thing, it's a bad feeling. And I can only imagine how Tua felt.

Yeah, I thought that the... I mean, look, he went down, Tua goes down and that really hurt them. But for whatever reason, it's been, I mean, it's like killed all the chemistry. I mean, like Tua and Tyreek don't have any chemistry anymore. Waddle, Waddle had two targets, no catches. It's like the only guy that he has a connection with

is John L. Smith. And we thought, look, OBJ got nicked up and they ended up releasing him. I just think injuries and age has just caught up with two ACL surgeries, Ojo, broken leg, you're getting older. He's not gonna get the opportunity that he once did. I just, he's not gonna be what he once was. And I think a lot, if you were hoping

that you were gonna see that giant's OBJ, that ain't happening. But I thought had he not gotten injured in the Super Bowl, Ojo, I thought he was gonna be the MVP. Because if you look at what the way he was building up in the playoff and the way he had started that- He was cooking, huh? That boy was cooking.

Damn. But Tua was 29 or 40, 196, 300 sessions. Ocho, the Dolphins defense isn't good enough to overcome those kinds of mistakes from Tua. No, it's- And here's the problem that he has, Ocho. Now, one of those picks, Tyreke, you gotta come down with the ball, bro.

You can't let the guy take the ball at your hand. Now, he threw one, Tua, you know you can't be late on the out ball. Man, he is stingly, bro. Hey, stingly's the real deal, huh? Oh yeah, for sure.ingley is the real deal, huh? Oh yeah, for sure. Stingley is the real deal. Yeah, but here's the thing, Ocho, from what I can deduce.

Because Tua doesn't have the strongest arm, he has to throw with such great anticipation. It gets him in trouble a lot. Because guys like, they know it. They know you can't drive, you can't drive the ball and you gotta let the ball go before you want to. And they're like, you know what? Sometimes I just like, I just like,

could like wish I could just stand behind the quarterback so I can see what he see. So I can just tell him no, don't throw it there. You don't see that man? Oh,'m really I'm like you don't see that man between him and right oh god are you what you gonna throw it through it yeah damn man but uh the Texans win 95 they stay on top of the division one more win they they went to the vision right if they went saturday they went to the division Because uh, you know bronco country you saw we did

Bronco country, oh you saw the bangles Bronco, I know I heard you i'm just saying who they I know I heard you I'm just saying who they and both you know, but you know, you see him get that pick They try to run a little lateral enough. Y'all can't do that. Don't try to bleep flicker. Let I play we gonna pick it go 50 Y'all right, and they hit the Marshawn Lynch on y'all Yeah, y'all. All right You you you realize you realize who y'all played today, right? You you you realize you realize who y'all played today, right? The Cokes, okay, and that ain't nothing to be like no be hooping and hollering about beating. I'm just I'm just saying

Hey Hey, Jonathan take oh Joe. What are these guys gonna stop dropping the ball before they cross the inline? Oh Jonathan Taylor who's a who's an all-pro? Yes, I see that I saw I saw a buddy from the back angles do it. Oh Hey that excitement up Oh Joe Jonathan Taylor's been an all-pro. He was one of the highest paid running backs. What you mean the excitement?

He's not a rookie. Yeah, you right. You right. Brock Purdy reportedly seeking a contract at the top of the quarterback market around $50 million a year. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, he don't need to be told about no contracts right now.

At all. Look, go ahead. All I know is I ain't get him nowhere told by no contracts right now at all. Look, go ahead. All I know is I ain't get him nowhere in there, no 50 million. I'll give you one of them on 35, 40 million. Hey, what you think he gonna say? What you think he gonna say to that? No?

Okay, play on the, guess what? We'll put you on a, we'll put you on a, what you call it for two years. What, Frances Hag? Oh, you'll bet on yourself like Kirk Cousin. Okay, let him bet. You always hear the story of everybody betting and coming up big.

What about them snake eye stories? Oh, where they don't, where they lose? There's a reason why those windows don't open in Vegas. You notice that old Joe, you and the, you and the casino don't, none of the rooms open. Those windows don't open duty. Hey, you, you, you ever ask yourself, man, why these rooms don't open? I want to give some fresh air. Talk, talk, you talk now. You're even gonna take the way out out. But what, hell no.

Hey, you know what? Hey, they might be stuck. They might have no choice but to pay Purdy. Cause listen, you don't wanna pay him what he worth or what the market says he should be paid. Where else you going with at the quarterback position? You have no one to replace them. I'm not paying him no $50 million.

You don't have no choice. Yes, you do got a choice. They had a choice not to pay Daniel Jones. You see what they did, right? What did Tampa play Baker Mayfield? 40. 33. Ah, 40. Three years, 100 million.

Okay, okay, I see what you're going with. Oh, so you're saying he should have a Baker Mayfield type contract? Yes. Okay, okay. Yeah, that's feasible. That's feasible. I'm not sure he would even complain about that. He would.

I'm not giving him no 50 million. That ain't happening. So, I don't know. That quarterback position is very, very, very, very important. And sometimes if you want it bad enough, you will overpay for it. very important and sometimes if you want it bad enough, you will overpay for it. Well, 49ers will not release Devondre Campbell. 49ers are pursuing a max suspension. So Campbell doesn't get paid since he is a vested player. If they weren't to release him,

he still gets to remain on his contract. So if they suspend him, they get to withhold that. Now that's something they gonna have to run by the league for the amount of time that they can suspend him. I'm thinking they're gonna say conduct detrimental. What is the framework for conduct detrimental? You see how they trying to play with you? Yeah, I would too. You think I'm gonna hold on. So you want them to release him and he still get paid. You think I'm a hold on. So you want them to release him and he still get paid. As one thing about it, boy.

Hey, they wanna hit you where it hurt. They wanna hit you and take what they think you value most, that money. Coach Joe, Drake Greenlaw got nicked. He's the backup. So what did he do? Hit us where it hurt. We needed a body. He wouldn't go in the game. Fair is fair. He was swapping. You hit me where it hurt. I hit you where it hurt. We both hurt.

Yes. I don't care if we both blind. Damn. I, I, did he, did he come out and apologize or anything? Did he say anything? Did he talk to and apologize or anything? Did he say anything? Did he talk to the team? Man, I don't wanna hear what he gotta say. We got everybody talking about, well, you don't know what that man was going through.

So I just wanna know, was he going through it before the game or did it happen during the game? Because if he was going through something before the game, take your ass to Kyle Shanahan, go to a Lynch, John Lynch, who was the general manager, just said, man, look here, man. I got a lot on my mind tonight,

I got, you know, my family, blah, blah, blah, X, Y, Z. He got mad because they activated Drake Greenlaw and he went from a starter to a backup. That's why he got mad. Hey, but Greenlaw, the real deal, boy. We gotta stop, Ocho, we've got to stop making excuses we try to we try to excuse everything that a person does you don't know what it was going through wait who tried to make that excuse for him everybody you know hold on if you in

the middle of a fucking football game don't nothing else matter what's going on on the outside because in between them lines That's your outlet. That's your super piece, right? That's your job. What? So it so it just happened So whatever he had going on Ocho it just reared his ugly head when he put the pads on and at the third quarter When Dre Greenlaw got hurt so it did happen. It didn't happen before the game It not on the way to the stadium. He get a call. Hey, something's going on with the fans, blah, blah, blah. He didn't happen once he got to the stadium. And an hour before the kickoff. It happened. It just so happened. He started going through something the moment they needed him to step in the game for Dre Greenlaw. That's when he that's when you don't know Shannon what he was going through. That's when he, that's when you don't know Shannon, what he was going through. And I ain't trying to hear all that,

but whatever I'm going through, whatever I'm going through in life, I know once I walk in that stadium and I walk in that locker room, whatever I'm going through in life, it stays on the outside until the game is over. Once you make that decision, Ocho, once you make that decision that you show up,

you gotta show out. Yeah. You can't, Ocho, now, like I said, if he has this going on before, Ocho, it just so happened, it's funny. Don't you find it funny, Ocho? Whatever he started going through, it happened the moment Drake Greenlaw went down

and they needed him. I like that, I like how you just put that. That was nice. Now, I wonder, had it been going, if Drake Greenlaw is inactive, I wonder if he's still going through that same thing. Not at all. So the 49ers are well within their right. Does it spin them? And that's the whole thing. Ocho, I ain't got no problem.

If you work a regular nine to five, you just cannot show up while I was going through something. Call your supervisor, call your boss, let somebody know. Man, Ocho hit me up. Hey, Ocho's not gonna be able to make it today. He called me, he said, he didn't have your number, butcho hit me up a Ocho's not gonna be able to make it a day. He called me. He said on He didn't have your number, but he wanted me to let you know that he had something going on at home He had a personal issue that he got to deal with he sorry. He wasn't able to tell you

You just not go show up on the damn job a man. Help that job Well, there's a common decency there's a common courtesy That you and I'm not saying people don't have things Bro, there's a common decency. There's a common courtesy that you, and I'm not saying people don't have things, but you mean to tell me you don't have the common courtesy, the common decency to just call and say, hey, I'm not gonna be able to come in today? Yeah.

That's crazy work, boy. That's crazy work. I just don't get guy. Oh, so the Texans have clinched the AFC South. But hey, send the Broncos up. Cause we did it. We put puts in the coats. They did?

Yeah, we beat the Brakes off. No, I'm talking about, I didn't know they clinched though. Yeah, cause once we beat the, once the Broncos beat the Colts, that gave them the division. That's all right. An NFL executive described Kyle Pitts as one of the biggest disappointments I've ever scouted,

he told Bob McGann. He also says Kyle Pitts is just going through the motions He seems like he's almost disinterested based off the films one of the biggest disappointments I've ever scouted some flashes, but rarely regularly involved in the offense seems to go through the motion almost disinterested Definitely a bust based on expectations and what they passed up He broke on the scene. He was one of the I think he was the second tight end in was based on expectations and what they passed up. Broke on the scene, he was one of the, I think he was the second tight end in NFL history to go over 1,000 yards a season in his rookie season.

Mike Dicker was the first one. Based on that, and I thought he was sensational at Florida. He was great at Florida. He could move like a receiver. Big, yeah, tremendous hands. Oh, he had it all. Slides, speed, catch great hands, catch the ball in traffic, high point the ball, great run after the catch. knee injury, the ACL. I think that slowed it down a little bit. That's all, that's all. Man, listen, Kyle Pitts' phenomena,

and even now with a little limp and a little injury, he's still a mismatched nightmare. I just think they don't know how to use him the right way where he is. You can't have someone that played, listen, on the line with his hand in the dirt, he can go, he can play in the slot, he can play a receiver, he can play all,

he can do all these different things, and all of a sudden now he gets to Atlanta and you know You have him playing a traditional Titan type role when there's so many other ways that you can use them offensively You know, I mean they just not using them to the best of his abilities now. I could be wrong I just know that injury that injury has affected him a lot. I will concede this Desmond Ritter, Tyler Heinecke, hell I don't know me, Gronk, Kellan Winslow the second or Travis Kelsey would could put up numbers with those guys. So let's not let's not pretend like he was with you know

Patrick Mahomes or Joe Burrow or some of these other elite quarterbacks. He's not But The one thing that you can do is that like I said, I hadn't looked at it But he said they look like he's going through the motion. Excuse me. It doesn't seem like he's given max effort Now I get it. If you're probably if you're frustrated, Oh Joe You're not getting you know one game. He gave a hundred and then hell he go to three games Oh Joe, he might get like two targets again. That's that's all on the play calling the creativity and

Allowing team to dictate whether you can get the ball or not. And I hate all offenses that are run like that. Mm hmm. It's like I said, plus. When he was with Arthur Smith, I thought that was a perfect situation. Arthur Smith loves the idea. Yeah. And and I think I think like his ruckus, his rookie year, he was sensational. And we haven't seen that since. I might have to call and get some footage and some tapes and take a look for myself.

I think there is some truth to it. But going through the motions, I mean, nobody has actually gone through the motions because it's actually on film. it. But going through the motions, I mean, nobody's actually going through the motions because it's actually on film. You're not going through the motions. Maybe this exec, whoever this exec may be, just finding the reason to hate. I hate execs that don't reveal who they are.

Hey, bro, I can't, see what he got charms attached when he attached the ages name to it. So won't nobody talk to him no more. Bro you can't do that. That's why they tell you off the record. You didn't hear from me. Okay. Okay. Put it put phrase it however you want to,

but just make sure it doesn't come back to me. Okay, okay. It ain't that complicated. My sources, don't worry about it. Yeah, sometimes, well these sources, it's 2020, 2025, these sources need to stand ten toes and let it be known Forget the source is coming for me. I'm the horse and I'm the mouth

Bro I want to get that check you think hello just to appease a player or a fan base You think I'm gonna give up a ten million dollar job just to appease y'all You not gonna do that either. Baby, crazy. No chance. Nah. All these, where you think these stories come from? They always come from somewhere. And it's always coming from inside the house, huh?

It's always coming from inside the house. Duh. Every time. All of a sudden, all of a sudden now, so how did he know somebody was talking about a trade? Or that somebody might be interested in trading, the he might be interested in trading Jimmy. These stories just don't appear out of the blue. Inside the house, knock, knock, knock.

Travis Hunter Where's the husband? As the genti says I should have walked away with it internet is an uproar prime having to get Travis fiance to stand Celebrate his win then she was filmed giving him attitude for taking pictures at a scheduled event Am I supposed to sit here all day? Hunter's relationship with his fiance has been underscruited since his college football career took off. Things seem to have gotten people online with a couple dead on the IG live where their fiance admitted she wasn't initially attracted to him. Fans took that situation to the next level when they assumed she was annoyed by him and the clip of the interaction between the couple, which led many to believe she wasn't truly in love with him.

Guys, everybody I think that's watching this show have probably been in a situation where they've had a parent that's told them young woman or young guy, I don't want you to see that person. And the more they tell you they don't want you to see that person What are you try to go see him? Y'all done told a man not a man went got a fiance y'all keep talking to man. She's in the commercial I Get it I get it you don't want the man to be taken advantage of nobody does and Hopefully coach prime is they would say bro. You will you love this woman. I'm it, you don't want the man to be taken advantage of. Nobody does. And hopefully Coach Prime is able to say,

bro, you love this woman, I'm happy for you. But just protect yourself, protect your wealth down the road. But y'all don't dictate anything. And the more y'all don't see it, the more, and I get it, yeah, I would have thought she see everybody else standing. She's still sitting down. I saw coach prime was hugging his mom

and he asked her to stand up. Maybe she don't know what she don't know. But I just thought that, hey, I see everybody else take their head off. Hell, I'm gonna take my head off too. I see everybody else stand. I'm gonna stand. That's just me, Ocho.

I'm not saying everybody. And sometimes the mistake that we makes is that we think everybody sees things and we do yeah but guys Y'all gotta let the man make his mistakes. He'll figure it out. Hopefully sooner than later But he loves this woman. This is not an act and Y'all not gonna if y'all think y'all talking about me. He told y'all He does stuff not to tick y'all not going to, if y'all think y'all talking about the man, he told y'all he does stuff not to tick y'all off.

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And I'm gonna wait. Cause y'all don't run nothing but your mouth. Y'all try to run every, y'all worried about that man relationship. And I guarantee you 75% of you got f'd up relationships. Yeah matter of fact y'all worried about so oh so I just read a study a lot of women get divorced only to be involved with a married man. Make it make sense.

Stop trying to tell people what to do. Guys, I want Travis Hunter to do the best that he possibly can. I want him to be smart. And he's about to come into more money than he ever dreamed of. More than he ever dreamed of. And I want him to protect himself.

But guys, y'all can't try to guilt this man and tell my, oh, she. We all done been some been with somebody that initially wasn't attracted to us, whatever the reason. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Whoa, wait a minute. Let's let's simmer down. Let's let's let's let's. Come back, come back down there, because I'm a sex symbol. You hear me?

Ocho? You are. Everybody. But I guarantee you, there are some women that if you were not Ocho Cinco, you did not play with the bingos, you did not make millions, you couldn't touch them with a 10 foot pole. I know that, you know that.

It's like, it is okay. Whoa, whoa, whoa, let me finish now. Okay. Now, for one, when I get a haircut, I'm a different, I'm a different dude. I'm different. Now or in high school? Or in high school. Even now, even now too. Okay, how about before you went to high school?

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hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey Lady that he dealt with increased also that lady wouldn't talk to you with the little $50 in your pocket Now you got 50,000 in your pocket. Now you driving you living in a big crib in Miami. Now you able to go play Let's be I keep it one file with y'all y'all know how it is It's and I'm cool look I understand But all I'm saying is that sometimes you've got to bump your own head to realize how much it hurts I can't tell you oh Joe. Oh Joe can't tell you your mom or dad Can't tell you that if you bump your head on that pole is gonna hurt

You got a bump your own damn head now If y'all don't believe this man care about this woman, the man is in college and he already proposed to her. His first commercial, Michael Jordan never put his wife, LeBron never, Kobe never put, she's in his first national spot. Huh? Adidas, she's in the spot. That's not an accident.

Hey. That's not an accident, Ocho. When you, when you, ain't you supposed to put your people on? Huh? Ain't you supposed to put your people on? That's, that's, you know, you know, you're supposed to put, when you're dating somebody,

you're supposed to put them in position. You know, like that's, that's what know, you know, it's for the put when you're dating somebody you're supposed to put them in position You know it like that's that's what you're supposed to do Huh? Oh Joe let's get the elephant in the room, you know the elephant Tell me you know the elephant yeah, because I don't even know I don't even know What Kendrick say? Not like us. Oh. Not like us.

Oh, they worry about that. Okay, okay, okay, okay. So there wouldn't be no elephant in the room if it was one of us. Okay. I see what you're saying. But they don't ever be happy no matter what. No matter what. If it was one I was in the problem

with the issues online would be something else. It would be a hair. What is it about her? I don't like the way she dress. She too short. Why you with that fat girl? It'll always be something. Either way, that's just us.

You know how we nitpick at any and everything. Whether it be ethnicity, whether it be color, whether it be height everything whether it be ethnicity whether it be color whether it be height whether it be weight It's always something if you Also, man, why you I like who like me? Guy I like who like me, right? I Ain't trying to convince you and chase you down and tie you down. Oh, why you don't like me? Bro, not in today's time.

Why do you even care? I don't care, hey look here. I don't care if the man married a goat. Because you know why you know why oh Joe Cutting out under do with me. I ain't got a feed it. I got a tend to it. I got a pick up after So what I mean what I never understood You know, you know I do I don't have to go show my grandma used to always say I don't see. You know how it is. I don't have to, Ocho, my grandma used to always say, I don't have to see what you see in that person.

Cause I don't have to be with him. Cause that, the quick, they quick to say, I don't see what she's seeing him. I don't see what he's seeing her. You don't have to. You're not with him. Yeah. Yeah.

I wonder, I wonder too. I wonder if anybody ever. If you like him, I love him. Man, what you think of? Period, they ask me all the time. What you think about this? What you think about, what you think about your, look here, when Kiara said, daddy, I wanna get married. I sat him down and said, you sure, bro?

I said, you fairly young. He said, yeah. He's like, daddy, we been together. Only second girlfriend. Okay. Right, right, right, right, right. What'd you, I say, Key. Same thing I told his mama.

I said, if he like her, I love him. I said, that's the man they gotta spend. He knows her. I just want what's best for my son. She treat my son good. I'm Gucci. Yeah, it is. I've been the guy that, you know,

hey, Shannon Lee that girl, man, please. First chance I get, Shannon's there. Hey, real talk, Shannon is there. And the more they tried to tell me not to, the more I wanted to. And the more her parents told her to leave me alone the more a You shut up I'm just tellin I could listen. I've been there. I've been there. I've been there before. Yeah, I was the poster child for That is not the one you want to bring home to me I was the poster child for that

Yeah, I ain't been seen a lot, you know, but I was fun I was fun. I'm unpredictable. Uh, you hear me? I'm excited. I'm exciting You know, it ain't you know, it, it is what it is. Yeah, it wasn't like, it's not like, well, you know, if he wasn't with her, he would be with me. And they quit, and the thing is, y'all don't need to worry about on Shea's pockets. Shea gonna be good

If she wanted if she wanted a date a hundred women at a time Bank account still gonna fly Don't worry about it with shape y'all call it what you want to Y'all don't do what once y'all realize all that name call it all that stuff Travis this and Travis that and Shannon Oh All that name calling all that stuff Travis this the Travis bad and Shannon old show out I'm just trying to figure out what ups. Why does it upset you guys so much? Who's Travis with? This or that why does it upset just tell me why right tell me what you get Tell me what bill that Travis was gonna pay for you that he's with her now that's not gonna get paid.

Tell me the car that you were gonna get, but now you're not gonna get because Travis was with her. Yeah. It's the life we live in. The only thing I would tell him is say, bro, protect yourself because love today might not be love tomorrow. And when people get angry, now, when people get angry. You get to see the true colors, bro.

I'm gonna hit you where it hurts. You get to see them true colors. That's it, gonna hit you where it hurts. You get to see them two colors. That's it, that's the only thing I would tell it, bro. If that's who you love, be with who you love. That's the only thing I would tell it, Mocho. Just protect yourself. But sometimes, sometimes, Mocho, we had to find our stuff on our own.

Yeah. We can't protect, we cannot protect our kids and our friends from everything. We try. I try to tell, I try to give my daughters a view, but only a male, not only a father, but a professional athlete. Now a guy that's in the media.

So I try to give it to my daughters, two different, three different ways. I'm your dad, first and foremost, that's what I care about. But let me tell you what, when a guy says this, what he's actually thinking. Let me tell you this, let me tell you X, let me tell you Y.

Now do with that what you make. At the end of the day my kid grown many threats But hell I'm a hell. They really want to listen to me when they were teenagers What what they go do that oh, what I would do that put it on point is me you right They live on their own anyway, they pay their own bills anyway Oh Joe the best cities for dating was Miami the best city for dating ATL Georgia what can they do ATL number one yes it's number one guess what number two is in Las Vegas Nevada Okay, okay.

Number three is Seattle, Washington. Number four is Pittsburgh. Number five is Tampa Florida. Number six is Portland, Oregon. Madison, Wisconsin. Wisconsin? Cincinnati, Ohio. Where?

Cincinnati, Ohio. No, I just had speed on. Speed said them girls, tools and fuses. Nah, speed don't know what you talking about. Sister Daddy Ohio. No, I just had speed on speed. Said them girls tools and few nice. We don't know what you talk about speed. Always are Denver Colorado, Austin, Texas. Okay.

I got the worst dates the worst place for dating Jackson, Mississippi. That was wrong. What's wrong? Yonkers, New York. Sippy. I guess it's the worst place for dating. Grand Prairie, Texas. Warwick, Rhode Island.

High Lea, Florida. High Lea? Glendale, California. Columbia, Maryland. Brownsville, Texas. Port Lucy, Florida. And Pearl City, Hawaii. I don't like this list.

I don't like this. Yeah, I don't know, I used to never make this list. Listen, the funny thing about it, like this list. I don't like this. Yeah, I don't know why I use it. Listen, the funny thing about it, forget the list. Depending on what you want and what you're searching for, you can actually find it anywhere. You can find it anywhere, no matter where you are. You know, it doesn't matter. You could be under a rock.

You'll be able to find something you like and something that you can deal with and chill with. You could be on motherfucking Mars. You can find something you like and something you could chill with. Yeah, it You could be on motherfucking Mars. You can find some you like and some you could chill with. Yeah, it just doesn't matter where you at. And just your chances increase. Man, sit your philosophical ass down.

And let us, let us. Okay, y'all see what he trying to do? What? Man, we having a good old time. Man, this man done killed my buzz. What? I'm just saying. I'm just saying, just I'm just I'm just saying, you know, I've I've been able to be anywhere and just and you know,

but hey, chat, let me tell you, I'll just uh you know, he feeling real good by himself. So, you know, they happen, you know, I was earlier before we got on, my niece was on the phone and you know, he was he was happy, you know, so, you know, that's what it is. So, y'all forgive it now I'm just I'm just break I'm just breaking things down for you a little bit you know most everybody in the chat is younger than me no I'm hey real real watching real say she was gonna be watching that she's talking you are seeing my chat I wish I could I should

have filled it I should have had Jordan film it and then played it back. You know what I'm saying, Ultra, why you feel, why you all smiling like that? I don't recall, when this happened. I'm just asking. I was just trying to talk about the state that you was talking about. That's your, hey, chat, he had the phone.

Hey, hey, oh, oh, guess who it is. Oh, look who it is right there. My baby, my baby on the phone. Oh my God! Oh, I did that? Yeah, you did that. I don't recall, I don't recall. That was tonight?

All right, look down at your phone. You probably say, stop playing with me, Ocho. No, she call you Chan. He probably say stop playing with me, Ocho. No, she call you Chad. Stop playing with me, Chad. No, I'm not. I don't I don't I don't recall. I mean, honestly, it's it's it's after

twelve o'clock too. I don't I don't know nothing like that. I remember nothing had happened yesterday. Yeah, but he had the champ. I'm not going to be. I'll be the chat. I'll be the chat happy chat. Y'all can tell. Okay, y'all can tell he happy

ain't it? I'm I'm I'm always happy. I'm I'm I'm the same. I'm I'm I'm the same energetic self always you know chat always. I mean I'm I'm lit. That has has been has been himself. Absolutely. I have a job. I have a job Are you the chat? Your name?

I'm telling you about me. I got a job to do When when when when I come on here and it's time to work. I'm i'm here I told you i've told you i'm like a horse at the kentucky derby now. I got my blinders on i'm focused Yeah, yeah, man shit Yeah Yeah. Yeah, man. Shit. Yeah. Chad say no. But anyway, he got it. They say you they say you look like you blow up because I got on makeup from goddamn just to come out the show. I know why you glowed up. Good man. Hey, hey, hey, hey, you know, somebody get that phone. He's all close to it too. Hey, how you doing? Hey, you talking about my baby.

I'm not. Too much information on y'all? I'm just trying to figure out what you're talking about. I don't know. I don't know. I'm trying to figure out when this happened. Yeah. They say like the last month and a half, two months,

say you been acting unusual. The only thing I listen unusual unusual I've been working. I got 57, 11, 30, 11 jobs. So that's been my focus, you know, getting to this bag. You feel me? You get me? I don't really show it, but there will be. I can't wait to see, I ain't waiting, don't worry about it.

I can't wait to see real IG to see what she get for Cripple. From who, Santa? Yeah, yeah, yeah, oh boy, it's Santa. He he he he he. He he he he. Yeah, shit, I ain't got it. Oh, you got it. I ain't got it.

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Spada Claus said, this for Travis Hunter, it wasn't a dry eye in the house. It wasn't a dry eye in America. I don't cry much, but man, I cried for this young man. I mean, look, the love that he showed coach prime because he said coach prime was the one that believed in him and said that, you know, I can play both sides of the ball and prime treated him like his own son. He's always looked out at me like, you know, uh, he trusted, he's trusted coach prime because a talent like this, the likelihood of you getting

the number one overall college high school player to come to an HBCU is not very good. Not at all. And then he followed, he trusted him so much when he left, he could have went to a lot of, there are a lot of D1 schools that had the bag for him. He says, no, I believe in coach prime, coach prime, I follow coach prime to J state, I'm gonna follow him to see you. And it's more than nobody in the

history of college won more awards in a season than what this young man did this year. He won the bullet to cough. He wanted to Gursky. He wanted, uh, no, he wanted to McNair. He wanted to run a lot. He wanted a Heisman. He was he he wanted all And and and and you can tell you can tell he's such a homie kid. He wants to do the right thing Yes, he's green. Yes. He's young. We were all young. We were all green. We all made mistakes But it's hard not to root for the kid It really is. And I know, look, I know people like Gentie should have won

and you said to Gentie, you know, I look, I ain't look. We've seen guys have rushing seasons like this. We've never seen, and we might not ever see a guy do what he's been able to do on both sides of the ball at the level in which you've done it. I'm not to take snaps out of it. People like snaps is not a stat. Do you believe, have you ever seen anybody in your lifetime,

I'm talking about somebody 50 or younger. So I'm gonna say between the ages of 50 and 35, have you ever seen somebody at the collegiate level play at the level in which you played this year. No, I don't believe you can say you can't. And that's why he won the award. So I'm happy for him. I'm happy for his family.

Um, it was, it was, it was great. His speech was great. Well deserved. Well deserved. Peter said, I'll get on your settlers with a settled, uh, settle with you or money jump funny next time you have to eat a jar of black licorice during the show, black licorice hell no, but who tricked for black? Would you, I don't even know you buy black licorice during the show. Black licorice? Hell nah, boy who trick? Boy, black, what you,

I don't even know you buy black licorice at. No, I don't eat, I don't eat. I ain't tell you, I don't do that, boy. But I tell you what, bae, I rather eat black licorice than candy corn. Yeah? That's bad wax. Candy corn.

You eat, you like candy corn? Hell yeah, boy, you trippin nah nobody with old people I can't do no black licorice nap I don't came to know blackness you put some goddamn candy corn boy talk to me absolutely hey we saw Barry raccoon but you won't eat candy corn. No, I sure won't. You eat you eat pig feet but you won't you won't I'm I'm gonna leave

alone. You know what? Yeah. You and you eat booty but you won't eat black licorice. They both black. One of them coming out the shower. They both black. Now, that was the old me. That was the old me. That ain't you no more? No. Ever since ever since I've been on this journey, man, everything like I see I see things so much more clearer now now that now that sex is a distraction.

that now that sex isn't a distraction. Wow, I'm proud of you man. Yeah. I'm proud of that journey. Yeah. Yeah. To me it's a beautiful thing. It's a beautiful thing. Honestly, I thought I didn't have the discipline.

Oh shit. I thought I ain't had the discipline to do it. And I've been on point. I'm proud of you. Yeah. I, I'm proud of me, too. You know, I'm making strides Right is it was a goal lives tough laws hard to beat MVP quarterback when your cornerback won and for lead game early time to get up and get ready to work the Bears next I still believe we beat most teams tonight yeah I do yeah absolutely how many core they're only probably a handful of quarterback they're probably only one other quarterback Lamar Jackson that could have done what what Josh Allen did

tonight what Lamar that's it yeah Yeah. So you happen to play against one of the two quarterbacks that could have done that of all the quarterbacks that's currently in the league. He you got the other one. I'm sure some I can tell about you but they got the other one that could do it. Frank Tang 921 hey't you love the show? What did she do with their receivers after the season been from Houston? I hope they keep the hop. I want to see him on a winning team Well, uh Rashid Rice Got gone for the season now. I guess Hollywood Brown was supposed to return to practice. We'll see how that goes

But it's tough. Ohjo, you know it's tough to pick up the speed of the game this season. It's bad. It doesn't matter receivers. The receivers can be open, but if you ain't got no time to throw it to them, that offensive line is a sieve. It's bad.

It is. It's very bad. Yeah, I don't mean, I don't mean, I don't even think there's a way to, it's not a way to fix it. Now, if you have a bad left tackle, if you have a bad right tackle, that sometimes you can hide it. Sometimes you can slide protection,

slide left, slide right. Use your back, use your tight end, you know, have them chip on, like's you can't hide everybody on You can't have everybody like it's bad Jaina you'll say what do you think? What do you think the Broncos in bold next defense? I'm scared We watching ready for the playoffs. Well next defense I'm scared we watching ready for the playoffs well you can't throw well I think he just I think he just handed a Jalen Daniels the MVP with those three turnovers he had today I think that's what he did do he's played

you know they the defense was outstanding today but you play in any other team you probably get beat can't turn the ball over three times and expect to win. You turn the ball over three times and Taylor let a touchdown go. It ended up being a touchback. So he's definitely gonna have to tighten that up. You need to get another win in order to get their playoff spot. FLBA say, would you rather have four catches, 100 yards of a touchdown or 10 catches, 100 yards? Let me ask you a question. Do we win? I'm going to go to the NFL. I'm going to go to the NFL. I'm going to go to the NFL. I'm going to go to the NFL. I'm

going to go to the NFL. I'm going to go to the NFL. I'm going to go to the NFL. I'm going to go to the NFL. I'm going to go to the NFL. I'm going to go to the NFL. I'm going to go to the NFL. I'm going to go to the NFL. I'm

going to go to the NFL. I'm going to go to the NFL. I'm going to go to the NFL. I'm going to go to the NFL. I'm going to go to the NFL. I'm going to go to the NFL. I'm going to go to the NFL. I'm going to go to the NFL. I'm

going to go to the NFL. I'm going to go to the NFL. I'm going to go to the NFL. I'm going to go to the NFL. I'm going to go to the NFL. I'm going to go to the NFL. I'm going to go to the NFL. I'm going to go to the NFL. I'm not playing fantasy. Oh, I never, you know, I didn't play it either but I I want for I want for four four catches a hundred and oh you let it 25 yards to catch up. That means you got something

deep. You don't want deep. I mean, you went deep. You went fifty yards on one of them. Thank you. Thank you. J two one three saying, hey, Uncle Ocho. I hope all y'all hope all is well. Keep doing what you're doing. Which one of Unks millions of saying best described both respectively? I'm trying to think which one best describes Ocho. What? A

lot don't care who tell it. But I don't be lying though. Ocho, you ain't never had no hair. I had here high school. I had a mohawk in NFL. What you mean? I never had no hair That was your second year in the league. You had that was your five That's all the hair the thing that was the only spot your hair would grow in is the mohawk right now the bill I can grow a hair full of hair. I just choose not to because I don't like you can't nance No, you'd be like a cheer pair Me never mistake hard work for heaven Or have it for hard work because that's the thing people think because they do something over and over or they working hard

That's a good no, that's a habit going to the gym people go to the gym every day, man. I go to the gym every day You look the same as three years ago five years ago six years ago So you going to the gym out of habit because you hadn't changed anything you ain't working hard Mmm yeah change anything you ain't working hard. Yeah. Killer care TNT. Oh, Chan love love you guys and boys was having a debate about who have a better backyard barbecue I voted because I know I'm coming with a good drink and trees we smoke those smokes of ribs.

Who y'all got? Me. drink and trees. We smoke those smokes and ribs. Who y'all got? Me. Hold on. You think you can have a better like a cookout or something? Like me? Yes. I don't I don't think so. Oh Joe. I don't think so. You got you can't have a cookout unless you got somebody that's going to be able to tell the stories. What you talking about be able to tell the stories My gosh the book I got stories for days the problem is you ain't gonna be able to tell no story Correa will miss there. I can't tell some more stories because some of the stories based on

On my hip like it ain't gonna fly That's what I'm trying to tell you. So they know she gonna be posted up to fly. That's what I'm trying to tell you. So, they know she going to be posted up and so you're going to be PG. You understand that. It's going to be all fellas. So, my story is going to be able to fly. You

can't have no cookout, no all fellas. You want women now? What kind of cookout you got? You want women now? It's a cookout. Yeah, women women be in the way though. I've never gone to a cookout where it's just all guys and I hope I don't ever go to one. So when you go to the DR you go you take you take you take hold on when you go to the DR you take women with you? Huh?

When you go to the DR you take women with you? I ain't go I ain't been yet. Okay, where we going? Hey, where we going? Where we going? You know, first chance we get. Okay, okay. I got my passport now, I'm ready. We good, you good now?

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm good now. Yeah, took a little minute and got it together. Big boy Torrance says, who tried to come to my soup bowl party I'm a burnt-in buffalo wings seafood gumbo mac and cheese rib eye steak and a lifetime supply a model models models today and say my dudes I'm like, oh. Hey, I thought, hey, I thought it was like them old dudes. You ever had old dudes on your non alcoholic beer? Yeah, I know. You know, I'm playing with that stuff, right? It's not alcohol.

The fact that it's supposed to be beer. No. Okay. You ain't never drink a beer. Uh I've never had alcohol alcohol that would be that would be me have alcohol. Oh Yeah, the burnt ends. I'm good Buffalo wings. Yeah gumbo. Nah, miss me with that Are you are you is the bacon mac and cheese is it baked or you gonna have it creamy? I Like the real by Bone in and lifetime supply of models. You lead the Modelo Modelo. Uh Doctor Frank said

congratulations on being nominated for two sports podcast awards. You know, you got my votes more to come Doc Thank you very much. We greatly greatly appreciate your support. Just make sure you in New Orleans That's what we need to have happen in New Orleans need to see you there because you've kind of been everywhere that we've been you came to New Vegas you came to Atlanta and so we know you're gonna be in New Orleans. So thank you very much, Doc. We greatly, greatly appreciate you. Doc.

Doc's always supporting. I mean, she was the one that gave us the idea for the t-shirts. Oh, Joe, remember you had the t-shirts and fakers? Oh yeah, yeah. Yeah. Guys, that concludes this edition of Nightcap. Thank you for joining us.

Y'all know me. I'm your favorite off Shannon Sharp. He is Liberty City's own bingo ringer fame honoree. He's happy. Bengals finally won a game. Yeah. Oh wait, we won two games. We're going to win out. You won two games. Bingo ringer fame honoree, the pro bowler, all-pro that's Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson Please I love y'all button. Please hit that like button Make sure you go subscribe to the back cow podcast feed and we thank you for your continued support Please check out shape out of Portier. We have it in stock holidays are upon us And what better way to celebrate than what a bottle of shade by the Portier now

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He scored he threw for over 300 yards 360 yards rushed for over 60 yards and had four total touchdowns Two on the ground two through the era to offset the big day by Josh Jerry Goff who had five total touchdowns and over 500 yards, but it wasn't enough as the bills when 48 to 42. What else happened today? The Eagles, the bangles won. That's what happened today. The bangles won the Eagles, Steinman, the, uh, the Eagles, Steinman, the Steelers.

And they win 27, 13 to receive it. Both Devante Smith and AJ Brown goes over 100 yards and they completely dominate the Pittsburgh Steelers. Patrick Mahomes sprained an ankle but they win 23 to 13 over the Cleveland Browns. Cowboys go on the road and dismantle the Carolina Panthers 30 to 14. Most game. The Cowboys have played to date. Defense was sensational. Cooper Rush, his first three touchdown passing day and Rico Didale had 149 yards on 29 carries.

The Ravens beat the Giants 35-14. Lamar Jackson tied a career high with five TD passes, five touchdown passes, and he had fewer than five incompletions as they completely dominated the Giants 35-14 the Bengals beat the Tennessee Titans 37-27 Joe Burrow 271 yards three touchdowns, but he did have two picks but still it wasn't enough for the Titans Joe Burrow and the Bengals 37-27 as they

The playoffs done the Bucs defeat the Charals 37-27 as the playoffs done. The Bucs defeat the Chargers 40-17. The Bucs rack up 505 total yards as Mike Evans has 159 yards and gives him a chance. He needs to average 84 yards a game, Ocho the last three games, to keep his consecutive 1,000 yard seasons alive. Jets beat the Jags with a vintage Aaron Rodgers

and Devonte Adams. Rodgers passed for 289 yards, three touchdowns. And Devonte had nine catches, a buck 98 and two touches. The Houston, Texas, clinched the division by beating the Miami Dolphins 20 to 12. And the Broncos beating the Indianapolis Colts gives the Houston, Texas division Travis Hunter wins the Heisman

And that's it oh Joe tomorrow after Monday night football we have two games tomorrow, uh Minnesota Vikings play who did the Vikings? I know the Falcons play who's the Falcons? Bears play the Vikings and the Falcons play the Raiders so we'll see you guys tomorrow after Monday Night Football it is a double header Bears and Vikings Falcons and Raiders huh? Raiders and Falcons that that's nasty word, boy. Yeah, you gotta love football to watch that with Ocho. And we do, so we gotta watch it. Thank you guys for watching. I'm Unk, he's Ocho.

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