Club Shay Shay - Nightcap - Hour 2: Lamar road block, Cowboys blame game, disturbing viral video

Episode Date: January 20, 2025

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson defend Baltimore Ravens Lamar Jackson amidst a disappointing end to the season. Later, Unc and Ocho react to seven different Dallas assistant coaches from 2022 or 2023 will be participating in the NFC Championship game, the guys react to a disturbing video that a real estate developer shared footage of him being profiled by a neighbor at the home he built in an affluent neighborhood and much more!03:20 - Lamar frustrated post game26:48 - AJ Brown goes viral36:00 - Real Estate Developer viral clip of racial profiling52:00 - Q and Ayyyy(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Throw a BS in the session. Game, it was 7-7 at the time I believe they scored after that. Back of bat. Fumble. Just not trying to make something happen. I couldn't throw it, it was like a RPO play, so I couldn't really throw the ball to unlikely, you know, the law office line or down the field.

So I was trying to make something happen, try to squeeze the ball, it slipped out my hand, Von Miller picked it up, got some yards, that led to points for them. So it's a team effort out there, you know, he's been busting his behind, making plays happen out there on FPL for us, came up short.

And like I've been saying all season, every time we in a situation like this, turnovers play a factor. Pinnies play a factor. Today, well tonight, the turnover, we can't have that shit. You know? And that's why we lost the game.

Cause as you can see, moving the ball wonderfully is, hold on to the fucking ball. I'm sorry for my language. This's shit. I know I'm tired of shit You're frustrated. Yeah, cuz like I said, I believe he think there's sometimes you lose Oh Joe And you like you can lose and not like we should have won this game, but I'm not so sure we're the better team Right. I believe deep down to a man Ravens believe they're the better team. Yeah We played them early in the year. Nothing changed.

They got the same players. We got the same players. The location really shouldn't matter. No, because we've lost games like on our Superbowl run, Ocho. Every team that beat us, we lost to Kansas City in Kansas City in the regular season. Right. Come back in the playoffs, beat them because we felt we were the better team. Pittsburgh beat us in Pittsburgh during the regular season. Right. Come back in the playoffs, beat them, because we felt we were the better team. Pittsburgh, beat us in Pittsburgh

during the regular season. We went back and got that ass. Yeah. Because we felt we were the better team. And Mike showed us, you don't turn the ball over, think about this here. You don't turn the ball over here. We don't give them extra possessions.

If we don't turn the ball over, that team can't beat us. Right. While you're bull-jabbing, he right. Yeah. And most of the time, it don't hit you to ask them. You're right. But when he showed us those clips on Joe, we watching it. Look at this right here.

If we hold this block a little longer Timber what's gonna happen? Yeah, go here 84 he's gonna hit right look at rock look at rod come free on display. Mm-hmm Hey, you get your head inside across this look at this gap the TD got to run through right? Oh Yeah, yeah, okay. Oh Okay, Pittsburgh. We got some for y'all ass. Mm-hmm. Oh, we coming back to get that And what a super bowl birth on the line and that's what we that's the way we approached it Hey, we don't turn the ball over you can't see that. They can't beat us with that pedestrian ass offense. They can't They can't they can't wait matter of fact. I got a question. Yeah was pre-sum. No, that's to nine

I think if priests priests was on our Super Bowl team in Baltimore Okay, okay, and then and then he was a free agent. He goes to Kansas City But what y'all saw priest do a cancer city he's doing practice. Yeah a priest We put priests in the game. Priest was just like that. What you saw him do. Mm hmm. I say, oh, he's going to be special. I say, have mercy.

We can keep him. They say he had one of the prettiest running, running styles and running forms him and Amon green. The priest. But it was nice. Hey, he's like, Hey, he like like Shay, I had to baptize him. But he was a good man. I hate, I hate that he had that injury, Ocho, cause you know, he had a very similar injury to what a Bo Jackson had.

Bo Jackson had, yeah. Very, a very similar injury. Same thing. He popped out of socket. He was able to come back once, but he was never, he was never the same place. It wasn't to the extent, but it was very similar injury. But, uh, you could hear Lamar talking. You could hear the frustration.

Obviously the NFL would have, would like it if he, if he did curse, but like he said, I mean, I'm sorry for my language. I'm in the, the frustration is built up because the finality of it. Oh Joe They get them gonna get them trash bags tomorrow. Yeah Lamar's gonna be at the Super Bowl And he ain't gonna be a participant in it He wanted to be at the Super Bowl Oh Joe and then at the honors they have him He's in conference room. And he's talking about congratulations, you know, hey, I wanna thank everybody that voted for me,

the team, this is a team, MVP, my teammates, Derek Henry, the offensive line, Coach Harms, believe in him, that's what he wanted. He wanted to do that, he wanted to do that interview, Ocho, via Zoom. I don't wanna be there in front of that audience to hold that trophy up, I don't wanna do that. I wanna thank y'all, I don't want to be there in front of the audience to hold that trophy up. I don't want to do that. I want to thank y'all. I want the trophy to be sitting beside me. I want to hold a trophy up from my room, from the conference room and have

my office alignment and have my teammates behind me. Right. That's what I wanted. So it's bittersweet. I could, I could, I could, and see the thing is with him, I noticed with like, when he gets like frustrated, he start bouncing. He start going side to side. He starts, so he really, he's really agitated. Yeah. Yeah.

Yes. I get, I get, I could tell, uh, people keep commenting that I never like Lamar. I implore you to go, why? Oh, hello. Can we put that up there? There's, there's, yeah. Play that. Let him, let him, let him listen to that. I can't I can't I can't because it's because of somebody else It's somebody it's uh, it's not disputed So we get back in the same kind of kind of issue again. Yeah, okay. Okay. Oh, they definitely gonna do that me

What? Me? What? But if you go back and look at the end, I can't even put, can I put it up on my uh, in my uh, on my uh, Hold on. I could put it up though, right? On your IG? Yeah. Forget IG, everybody that's watching the chat. On Twitter. All them follow me on Twitter right now anyway.

Yes. I can just say this is what Shannon talk about Listen to this real quick. Yes I'm gonna do that real quick. This thing got this thing got nothing to do with like a dislike Right. I'm just giving you the fact what a guy just like Jerry golf So I guess I didn't like Jerry golf cuz I pointed out he turned the ball over that led to them losing the game I mentioned the drops by Andrews.

He's going to be, he's going to probably be even more disappointed than, than, than, than Lamar. He had a big drop. Uh, he had a fumble that led to point, uh, yeah, led to three points. Uh, he had to drop the two point conversion. So he's going to be, but I let look, they said that, um, when I used to kill Tony Romo, I didn't like white quarterbacks. I killed Aaron Rodgers, I don't like quarterback. I killed Baker, I didn't like black, white quarterback. If I say something about a black, oh, I don't like black.

I hate my own people. So I think I'm doing something right because y'all say I don't really like anybody. When my home doesn't play well, I point that out. Have I not pointed out that my home didn't play well, of course Turnovers help you lose a ball game. My point was people like well, you didn't like Joe Burrell And they got nothing to do it like I'm saying his turnovers is costing his team It doesn't matter how well you play if you turn the ball over You can lose go back and look at Lamar Ash how

many how many um yards did Lamar have in his first playoff game it was against the Titans he I think he had over 500 yards of total offense but he had like 300 passing go back and get go back and give me Lamar's first but he had turnovers his first playoff game against the Tennessee Titans they They were, they, that was the first year that he won the MVP. Bear with us just a second. But he remember all Joe, that was the year he had 36 and six. Yeah. No, no, no, no.

That's first and second year. The deal he wasn't MVP. The first game he started halfway through the season. They ended up losing to a, they lost to the charges. Oh Joe, the charges put like four safeties on the field to match his speed. Matter of fact, for those of you, uh, that put it on, put it on the iPad. Going, what are you saying? Oh Joe. No, I'm saying for those of you that are in the chat,

to give you better context, better context on what Unc had to say about Lamar Jackson. For those of you that feel he doesn't like him because he's critical of him when he doesn't play well. I just tweeted it out, short YouTube clip. If you have opportunity, even while you're watching here, you can go to my while you're watching here, you can go to my Twitter page, my Twitter, to my ex page. It's the last thing I tweeted.

Just listen to the things he had to say once Lamar got drafted. And really basically everything Unk said, before it even happened, kind of turned and came into fruition. So you can listen to it real quick. And that'll give you a better assessment on how he feels about Lamar despite him being critical when he doesn't play well. But that would ruin the argument though, Ocho. And then you won't

have anything to say. You can't get you won't get to say you won't get to say Buk dancing, Anx of Tom, Anx of Cooney. Yeah, they won't just step and fetch. See they won't get to say that. I've got to keep I've got to stick with the Twitter. Give me his rush, y'all. Give me his rush thing too, Officer Ash. Then, Ocho, I won't be able to follow the Twitter mob. See, we a mob, we got to stick together. See, if I don't, if the Twitter mob don't like Unk,

I can't like Unk either. So let's just go with that. Now when UCC was the only one on television speaking up for George Floyd. Yeah. I ain't hear him say nothing. When UCC was the only one when Skip and I was talking about Colin Kaepernick every day, when everybody else went away from it. We were talking about it. UCC don't like black people. I don't know, like black people.

I don't know how to hit on people. Unc this, unc that. See, y'all don't want to do the research and look at it and say, well, damn, I see what he's saying. It's an update your resume league. That's what sports is. You don't get the beat back. You don't, oh, it was like, you could have, okay,

I led the league in receiving I'm good. So I'm exempt. Oh no. It don't work like that. You didn't put it in there though. Okay. And the law and the tennis and the year that Lamar won the MVP, his first MVP, he was 36 passing touchdowns, six interceptions.

In the loss to the Titans, he was 31 and 59, 365, one touchdowns, two interceptions. He rushed for 143 yards, had another fumble. My point is, look how great he played, but do y'all believe those turnovers played any role in the Ravens losing the game? Yes or no? You absolutely do. But because I pointed that out, guys, we got to stop this. We've got to stop this. That blacks can't critique blacks and be critical of their play.

Stop this, y'all. It ain't about no dislike. I've got to point the obvious out. He played well, but those turnovers directly, that's almost, Ocho, that's 500 yards of total offense. Offense. But those three turnovers hurt their chances of winning. Mm-hmm. Y'all think he fust... So y'all think he...

So tell me why y'all think he frustrated. So since his turnover didn't have any bearing, he's gonna be the MVP. So you tell me, shouldn't we expect more from an MVP, old joke? Wait, you don't crit... No! I don't critique Baker Mayfield as hard as I critique- Oh, really? So you saying Baker Mayfield and Lamar Jackson on the same level playing field? They like this? No. Come on, chat.

Come on, my people. We better than that. Hold on. Did y'all- hold on. Did anybody- did anybody listen what I said? Did y'all go to Ocho Twitter- uh, uh, X-Page? Did y'all listen hold on, did anybody listen what I said? Did y'all go to Ocho Twitter, X-Page? Did y'all listen? What did I say? I was the one that went on TV and said, hell no, don't you change the position Lamar Jackson, you're a quarterback. Yeah.

And if you can't play a quarterback, say then I'm gonna move. But I'm not moving before y'all give me a chance to play the quarterback position. I said I thought he should go in the top 20. The Ravens had 16 pick. I said, he going to Ravens. He going to the Ravens at 16.

Cause I felt that they didn't get him at 16. They weren't going to be able to get him cause somebody's going to snatch him up. You want, yeah. Oh no. I come on Chad. Well, I need to be able to see you. Can I, can I see this part of this in this little section right here?

Cause I want to see what they say or not. Cause I know they't I know I know they don't went to it it's all it the chat moving too fast good I just I just want to see what they say it now how you slow it how you slow it down you can't you can't slow it down no hey y'all stop typing so fast I can't see. But that's all. I mean, when a guy plays well, I'll say a guy played well. Jesus Christ. But when he doesn't play well, what am I supposed to do?

I was supposed to say he played well when he didn't play well what am I supposed to do I'm supposed to say he played well when he didn't play well hey uh it ain't no way I can slow my chat down or just stay going like this don't keep moving like that cuz it's moving like that is that oh Joe we got what 70 plus thousand people in the chat yeah call a friend Let's try to get to 80. Tell a friend. But yeah, that's the thing, Ocho. Look. Yeah. And I get it. Time told me something about this long, long time ago. He say, he say, sharp, you have to understand your boys carry a lot of weight because of

who you are and what you've accomplished. So you just ain't some random talking about football. People know when you talk the way you talk, you know the game, you understand the game. Plus your credentialed, your resume is impeccable. You were a seventh round draft pick and accomplish what you accomplish. So your word is gonna carry some weight. It's gonna sting when you say things about people. And I get that.

But you gotta be- That's it. But a lot of guys is that when they see me at a event, so they see me, they're like, you hard, but you fair, man. You be calling that ish. Mm-hmm. I do. I don't got no bones in the fight. I want to see Lamar do well.

I want him to get a championship so the floodgates will open up. Yeah. Because when the floodgates open up, that pressure will be off of him. You can just play free. Just him. You can just play free. Just play, you play football free. Yes, yes. Yes, he has that kind of ability.

But this is what, this is last year, two turnovers. This year, two turnovers. His first playoff, his second playoff game against the Titans, three turnovers. How many turnovers did he have against Buffalo when they played in Buffalo two years ago? I think he only had one because I know he threw the pick into the end of the pick. That guy ran back for the touchdown. No fumbles. That's it.

We can't get it up. I thought we could put it in the uh Yeah, we're good. Oh, hey, did you? Hey, look, I can use my finger and make it stop. Okay. You know that. Hey. Okay, okay, okay.

I know I could touch it. Well, no, I could touch the chat and make it start. Okay. Yeah. You just put this. All right. Yeah, we good now My say it talk about Buffalo we did talk about Buffalo

Look Buffalo, Buffalo, Buffalo, Buffalo is that they played the kind of game. What do we always ask Josh Allen to do? Stop turning the ball over. What did Josh Allen do today? What did he do this year that he normally never does? He protected the football. Oh yeah. And that's all we've had.

Nobody's ever said Josh Allen wasn't a great quarterback because he is, but he put himself and his team in harm's way by turning the ball over. When you turn the ball over in the postseason, you pay double. You pay double for turnovers. So that's bad look. No guys Lamar is not a Jag. Lamar special.

A Jag. He just have to do a better, he just have to do a better job of taking care of the football in the crucial moments in the playoffs. Because in the playoffs every moment, every possession matters, Ocho. Every possession matters. And it should. But every possession matters. Oh Joe. Yeah, every possession matters And it should it should have because you're going for the ultimate prize Oh Joe Mm-hmm. And because you got to think about it. Oh Joe once you get to the playoffs

It ain't no you ain't you playing Jacksonville you playing the Raiders. These are the best You're going up against other bears. Yeah. That means you have to be at your best. Look who's on the other side against Lamar. That wasn't Aiden O'Connell. That was Josh Allen. Look who's on the other side of Jared Goff. That was Jayden Daniels. Look who's on the other side of Matthew Stafford.

That's Jaylen Hurt. Who's on the other side of CJ Stroud? That's my homeboy. Yeah. You see, that's what happens. It's a rarity. Especially now, Ocho, because the game is so quarterback-eccentric Yeah.

that you're gonna get quarterback discrepancy when one is way up here and the other is down there. You're just not gonna get that now. That happened during the regular season only. Yes. Yes. Because you don't get to determine who you play Hey, you don't play the AFC West or the AFC East and they might have some crappy quarterbacks and you go up against them when you go to the postseason I Thought they did a great. I thought they did a great job of Neutralizing LeBarn's legs. I thought Buffalo did an excellent job of that something the Steelers couldn't do last week. Oh Joe, remember? Yeah. Yeah.

They couldn't do that. So he got, he not only did they allow, uh, Derek Henry to run, run wild. They allow Lamar Jackson to run wild. Yeah. But he's going to be, he's just got, like I said, he just got to get over that hump. Most quarterbacks look, he's just got, like I said, he just got to get over that hump. Most quarterbacks look. Everybody is not Patrick Mahomes. You start one year, you're in the AOC championship game,

and the next year you go win the Super Bowl. You know what I'm saying? So you within your first three years on show, your first two years of starting, you a Super Bowl champ. You in the AOC championship game, you lose to Tom Brady because you don't get a chance to touch the football. But think about it. They didn't change the rules then.

They only changed the rule where my homeboys started winning all this time. Cause remember Brady got the ball. They're like, Oh, the defense get paid too. Okay. They do. So why would my home get down to field and they don't get a chance to touch the football now if you don't score? Because before I would show walk off wanted. Yeah, kick a field goal. Yeah now

Oh, if you don't kick score touchdown, well, let everybody do it like college. Let everybody possess the ball at least once. Mm-hmm Shoot let's shoot it in but we might be there all night You bite? shoot any, but we might be there all night. You might. You're a, now somebody, I mean, somebody got to make it. Cause I think now in college you get a touchdown, you get two touchdowns, then you, everybody, everything is a two point conversion from that point on. Um, but no, it's not about like a dislike. I try to be as fair as I possibly can. I watch the game intently about plays, about situation, um, because it comes

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Now, I'm sure AJ Brown has some nice stuff, but obviously because of the weather, because of the weather, I'm not driving nothing nice in this weather. It's snowing, it's sliding. I'm sure there might've been ice on the road. So what you do, you pull out, you pull out your, your slider. You pull out your slider. So I like it. The fact that he even has a slider to be able to use lets me know his

mind is in the right place. Oh, AJ. Yeah. And that's what, you know, look, I get it. Um, because I did Winston all that day. I'm bringing the SUV out. You had a big truck. I had, I had, uh, my first six years, I years I had a four door blazer. You know, I brought that, yeah, I had a four door,

with cloth seats. A four door blazer? Chevy. Oh, Chevy, yeah, Chevy blazer, okay, okay, okay. Ford had the Bronco. Right. Oh yeah, yeah, okay. Yeah, what you thought I was gonna have?

I didn't have no money like that. Hey, you know. But then I got a little money, I had a Range Rover, and so that's what I would drive. You know, I always had a nice car, but I'm not driving my nice car in that snow. Oh, you had, you had a Range Rover? Well, you had me.

I like the Lamen, the Lamen had them big trucks that was, they was lifted up. Oh, yeah, they had F-150s and Superdoodies, yeah. Yeah, yeah, man, I'm like, yeah, me. yeah man I think a time got a 650 time that's for real with the three door the three doors on the side check had one of them when them gray ones like that yeah yeah I think they got a seven or seven hundred nine four but I'm like man I can't part that thing cuz I got individual stone Well, what do you go park that? No, well, they take it up to parking spots and you not going in no parking garage with that big Oh, no, absolutely. Nah

You can write it be a convertible take the whole top of that thing. I mean I like it but that that ain't be time country, right, right Yeah, but no no not not not. Oh no, I'm good with the country. Guys, what are y'all talking about? Oh, I'm paying not to talk about Andrews. We just said, but Ocho and I just said Mark Andrews, he's going to feel worse about this game than Lamar. No, I think some of the people commenting, maybe they just joining and they weren't here for the beginning. Because we don't we don't, we don't cover every, we didn't cover every base you could cover on the game quarterback situations, the fumble talks

about it already. Oh Joe, we just talked about it. I said, Mark Andrews is going to feel worse than Lamar because he has dropped his fumble and the two point conversion drop. Yeah. So what does you want us to say? They just got here man, that's not fair They could be I'll tell check this out while Jared Jones endures the process of hiring Mike McCarthy Replacement as a head coach two of his recent coordinators will be calling plays in the NFC Championship game

If I'm not mistaken every team has been to the NFC Championship game since Dallas has last been to the NFC championship game. If I'm not mistaken, every team has been to the NFC championship game since Dallas has last been to the NFC championship game. Every NFC team, let this sink in, Ocho. Every team has played in an NFC championship game since the Cowboys last went to the NFC championship game. You got a, hey, you got Dan Quinn with a rookie quarterback. Yeah.

In the NFC Championship game. Kellen Moore is calling plays in the NFC Championship game. His first year there. So who do you think the problem is in Dallas? I'm just curious, chat, chat, can you, who do you think the problem problem is in Dallas? Because everyone that leaves Dallas and goes somewhere else they seem to have found success coaches thrive or finding success thrive

I'm just asking and I'm curious what the chat would say. Oh, yeah, you know Mike McCarthy Got tired of a Kelly Moore getting a little shy. Oh, you know, he wanted to run the ball to, he wanted to pass the ball too much. And lo and behold, he get, he get Kelly Moore out there and he, he throws the ball more than what Kelly Moore did when Kelly Moore was calling the plays. Everybody know who thought of you? Yeah. I know who I would like to see be the Dallas coach.

I know we've heard the rumblings about Prime going there and I'm not sure if that would work that situation because Prime would be the one to take all the spotlight away from Jerry. He don't want that. Tremendously. I think Dak and Chad might not agree with me, but I think Dak and CD Lam and the rest of the supporting cast offensively would do very well with Ben Johnson and his creativity, you know, with that offense and being the fact that with Ben Johnson, they would score,

be somewhere statistically in the top five when it comes to scoring. I don't know, I just like it. I just think someone like Ben Johnson being in Dallas, not only being the head coach, but also controlling and doing the play calling as well. I can't, Ocho. Cause he like Al. Man, they had to get Al to sheet.

Al needed to know what you was running. We're not gonna get into that. Ocho, in fact, seven Dallas assistant coaches from 22 or 23 will be participating in the NFC Championship game. Wait, how many? Seven. Damn. The last championship game appearance for the Dallas Cowboys was 1995.

The Bears, every team has been in the NLC Championship game except the Cowboys in the 2000s. Even the Bears, the Giants won the Subo, the Seahawks Carolina Arizona Falcons Minnesota Saints Packers Tampa Rams 49ers Detroit the commanders and the Eagles hey did you think Jerry knows this or he doesn't pay it no mind oh Joe if if you could if you could do whatever you wanted to do and make 300 knows this or he doesn't pay it no mind. Oh Joe. If you could, if you could do whatever you wanted to do and make 300 million, or you could do it the right way, make 300 million, but you're not going to get no credit. Jerry wants credit.

That's what Jerry wants. Oh, that ain't working. That ain't wants to be the face. That ain't working. It ain't working. How could you not, it's not working. Didn't that man tell you he bought this team, he bought this occupation? He told you that, Ocho.

How about what more you want the man to tell you? When you, when you buy a occupation, the point of buying an occupation is for one, so you can succeed and win at it. Not just buy it to tear it down or not just buy it and be losing. I don't even work on my, I want to work on my own car. It didn't want to ever crank. Instead of me taking it to, instead of me taking it to a auto technician, it's still a, me taking it to a, oh Joe, because you know, we got to be politically

correct. We can't say mechanic anymore We got a right auto technician. Okay, so What would that mean? No, it's because you know people that oh Let's give them the proper credit. They're auto technicians. Okay. Okay auto technicians. I like that tree as mechanic But in that situation, man, it's I mean, look at this with a rookie quarterback. Dan Quinn stayed longer than what he probably should because he thought he was going to get the Dallas job. He was going to be willing to forego give up of himself himself We saw Dan Quinn get to the Atlanta Falcons to the Super Bowl have a 28-3 lead so he can coach Yeah

He can coach But nobody Ben Johnson is not gonna be Ben Johnson in Dallas. He needs to go somewhere where he's gonna have control Ben Johnson in Dallas. He needs to go somewhere where he's going to have control. It looks like all indication is pointing to the Raiders. I wouldn't be surprised within the next two to three days. He's going to the Raiders. Um, how are we going to the Raiders? We don't got no quarterback. I'm talking about, he doesn't want to, he, listen,

a lot of times guys don't want to be in a situation with Detroit. A guy that gave him his start. I don't really want to be in that situation dan quince. I don't care Dan quince i'm tired of this you told me you were gonna make something happen for your boy, right? And you ain't do it. So guess what i'm gonna go ahead and beat your ass Oh cho yeah I'm just kidding. Oh Joe. Oh Joe. There's a really disturbing video that came out yesterday. A real estate developer shared footage of him being profiled by a neighbor at a home he built in an affluent neighborhood.

In order for us to do this video justice, we have to show the video guys. So we ask you to bear with us because in order to do it, to do it justice and give you the proper context, we must show the video in its entirety. Now the video is like three minutes long. We're asking you to please bear with us

so we can have this conversation and do it justice and provide context. Let's take a look at the video, Jo. and do it justice and provide context. Let's take a look at the video, Ocho. Do you live here? Yeah. You do? Papa.

I don't believe that. What? I don't believe that. So what are you doing here? We're at court. We're at court. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Did someone come here? That was my wife. She got, somebody chased her out here. She had a gun. Who chased her? Somebody in a silver truck. They just left the school. And we were on the corner and there was this street. And so I come up

and I'm like pretending that I'm coming home. And so I pull up and I start walking to your back gate And he stops here and he goes are you looking for someone? I said, nope And then he sat here and I was like I need to get in well, that's my husband. That's why he lives here. Yeah He lives here. So he came in he said there's a lady screaming and I'm like, that's she got all worried like that's she got all worried. How do you scare you though? I've just seen her in the driveway and I was like, are you looking for somebody? I was pulling up and I saw someone

walking in our driveway too. And I'm like, why is someone walking in our driveway? All right, sorry. She says that's what I want to following her. So you were walking from there. You came this way, didn't you? No, I came down this street right here. And I I was Following her so you were walking from there I came down this street right here, and I was riding slow cuz I'm looking at our Christmas lights Being by myself with some days I just saw a car coming and so I was like, oh it's here me And so I just pulled up here and I kept thinking this could be his house But you didn't say this is my home. You just said, are you looking? I was like, I did. When you was on the porch, you asked me that I live here.

I said, yeah. And you said, no, you don't. And you said, I don't think you do. Obviously, it's all that I was really put on. Like I'm pulling in my this like I'm pulling in my house. Like this is not this neighborhood. It's probably one of the best neighborhoods in Ohio. I don't you don't have to worry about stuff like that i'm very sorry

i really hope that you're not upset with me come on baby i'm scared stop you did you told me that i didn't you said you didn't think i live here I was so scared of her, I didn't want to cover me. You standing on somebody else's porch. You don't live there and because the man just said, hey, I live here. Now, Ocho, you hear what she's saying? Yeah. You have to understand my point of view. Yeah.

They're always asked to understand their point of view. All the while never seeing their point of view. All the while, never seeing our point of view. You don't get to stand on my porch and ask me a question about my D house. What are you doing on my front doorstep? You see what you did? And she went running screaming. Now call the cops. Now he gets blasted.

Oh, this man was chasing me. See, they had to release the video because she was lying. Yeah. blasted all this man was chasing me see they had to release the video because she was lying yeah they left me they she left them no choice because they tried to handle it they have it way way better than I would have ever have with it yeah oh yeah obviously listen to it depending on who it is in that in fluid neighborhood you know you see well that would happen. You want to wait? I'm fluent in flow. Yeah, it doesn't rhyme with black. Yeah Oh, yeah, it is only supposed to mean a certain group. Oh, yeah, look like her. She's like Oh, you have to understand of somebody along with two kids Clearly you're not that concerned cuz you're outside in the dark with you and your two kids

Clearly you are not concerned. But now all of a sudden you have to see my point of view of sitting warm up with two kids. Right. And I'm confused if, if, if you're a neighbor, if you've been in a neighborhood already, you haven't seen your neighbors, you never seen them before. I mean, I don't know, but there's stuff like this happens all the time though. This is nothing.

It was caught on camera this time. Yes. Thank you. That's my point. What if it wasn't caught on camera? You know, everybody's gonna believe her side of the story. Absolutely. What if she called the police and the police come and ask this man to identify yourself.

And he's like, I don't want to identify myself. This my house. I'm home, yeah. You see? And now she done went on. She done disabled all of her social media. And she done did an IG live, talking about people are calling me racist.

You don't understand. We understand. We absolutely, 1,000% understand what you did. Instead of, instead of trying to, instead of trying to say, look, I was wrong. Right. You don't get to go on somebody else's front porch, Ocho and ask him. And if they say, do you live here? He says, yes.

You said you didn't believe it. You don't live there. So who cares if he lived there him. You don't live there. So who cares if he lived there? Your ass don't live there. And then, hold on, did she not walk away, left the stroller screaming help? Yes! Running down the screen, screaming, help, help!

Help what? He should have been screaming. It's sad. Even during this time, nothing has changed. How do you get to play victim, Ocho? When you initiated this whole thing, you see? That's, and see, that's what happens a lot of time on social media, but this is real life.

People will say whatever they wanna say to you. Women will say to them, oh, oh, Shannon, you, and I don't let it go, oh, so you know, I told my New Year's resolution. I ain't gonna let it bother me. People still say things, oh, you thick tongue, you can't talk, now see, when I talk about you, oh, does ESPN know you talk about women like this?

Oh, now ESPN even know I talk about women like this. When you hunk your hot ass on my timeline and try to get one off and I click, clack, clack, clack. Cause you know I keep that thing. I keep that thing on me, Ocho. I got a thousand jokes. I'm on number 12. Yeah, you gotta tweet like I do, man.

It's fun and you gotta understand. Sometimes- I let it go. No, you can't let it go man So listen, let me tell you something if somebody walk up and slap you gonna turn the other cheek Ocho I pray, you know, I pray every night the God just leave me be Now with that guy dang got nothing to do with that Just ask you if somebody walk up and slap you on the left side of your cheek Are you gonna turn the right side so just slap that that one too?

Yeah, I'm gonna have to move on. I'm just gonna say, Lord. You gotta control your Twitter the way I do, huh? You have people that are positive and I engage with them in a positive manner. You have people that talk to me negatively and I engage with them in a negative manner. It keeps a happy balance on the timeline. Everything can be positive. It can't. I just don't respond.

That's not the way the app works. So if somebody cues at you, I'm telling you, regardless of what your New Year's resolution may be, you have to talk trash back. We love that. The people love that. It keeps the timeline balanced.

If everything is always happy, happy, happy happy happy. It ain't no It's all good Negativity and talking trash and engaging with people whether negative or positive it builds character But you do it does but you know what oh Joe we don't ever get them as next state We don't ever get to stand on somebody porch and ask them, you live here? I don't believe you. You notice that never happened to any of us? We never get on camera being at the wrong place

and saying, oh, is this your house? This how you got to understand. You think I care? You actually think I care who house it is. I'm minding my business. They throw their hand up. I throw my hand up and keep going. But you on this man's place, on this man's front porch, he said he lived there.

You say you don't believe him. You leave your stroller, you take off running, screaming, yelling, help, help, help. You don't know who could have heard that came out shooting. And then what? I'm sorry? Uh-oh. Yeah. And it could have gone bad, depending on what type of cop

showed up. That's my point, Ocho. That's my only point. Yeah. How many times have we seen a situation like this happen? Because of a lie. Emmett times have we seen a situation like this happen because of a lie? Emmett Till died behind of a lie. Mm hmm.

Or people being nosy. Yes. Which young dude that was running. Remember he was with y'all. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. That's that in Brunswick. Yeah.

He was. Yeah. Come on now. We don't, we don't, we don't, we don't, we don't get Come on now. We don't get that benefit because how many times, there have been a lot of times that we call the cops and we end up getting arrested. We call the cops so damn. Yeah. I just hated this. My heart broke for this family because it could have, and see people quickly say, Oh, but it didn't know it's not that it didn't. It's the fact that it happened to

begin with. Yeah. We're in 2025 and stuff like this is still happening. And the funny thing about it, regardless of it being 2025, it could be, it could be 2050. It's still going to always go on. You know, we just, we just have to do a better job at trying to disengage in those situations. I, why I got to disengage in my house. I mean, I know what you mean. I'm just saying, you know, just enjoy it.

I mean, oh Joe, just think about it. You pull up to your house, you pull up to your mansion and somebody's standing on your front porch. Uh, you live here? You like, yeah, I don't believe you. Yeah. Yeah. Bitch, how you got through my gate? Oh, okay, my bad. I was doing good tonight. That was my first one. I'm sorry. Yes. Boom. My first thing is like, do you live here? Why? I don't know if I live there, but I know you don't. Now again, why are you on that porch?

Why not? Why are you on my porch? Yes! Man, please. She was doing too much. She did entirely too much. It was so unnecessary. And then the fact that she's yelling and screaming, like somebody was chasing her.

She left this couple no choice but to release that video because she had told... And the family got tired of her lies upon lies upon lies. And they said, you know what? It's all captured on Ring Cam. It's everything that transpired is captured. Now she's trying to go back. You got to understand my point of view. Some mother with two kids, if you so afraid, if you're so afraid, why is your ass out

that time of night with two kids? If you're that afraid, clearly you're not that afraid. You're're not that afraid. You're clearly is not that you're not that afraid. Yeah, she went got a husband. You see that and then that's what I had to whip him. You see that's the thing, I had to whip him. You gonna put your hands on him, Mom? Get off my property. Get off my property, you gonna get whipped. And I'm gonna call my wife, you whip her too. Nah, you ain't finna play,

you ain't finna play in my face like that. Oh, man. I'm like, oh, you ain't got your husband, what you ain't got him for? The best thing y'all can do, y'all out of age, is to turn around and go on back home. This ain't gonna end well for either one of y'all. You gotta hit it with that Bernie Mac. You look like you're trying to do something to me.

Hey, it won't be an affluent neighborhood when I get through with him. Nah, don't play like that. Don't do people like that. When you wrong, don't exacerbate a situation by lying. You was wrong. You know they play victim quick now. That's it? You f'ed up and then you want to play victim. Quick. play, want to play victim quick. Mm. No.

So hopefully everything gets resolved. Uh, the couple, I am sorry that you had to go through this. That's why, you know, you move in a neighborhood and you think you're safe and everything's going to be okay. And then it doesn't matter. This happened. This. And my neighborhood on my porch, my kids, my family got to witness this. And all the while you pretend like you're the victim. No, we're the victim. And it's all

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there's no gray area nowadays they call it either you a D rider or hater continue to be great guys they do they do but it has a lot to do like I said you I'm not saying that fans shouldn't love their team, love their players, but no player is beyond reproach. No player is beyond criticism. Y'all go check my record. Go check my record. Peyton got it.

Brady got it. Roger's got it. Mahomes have got it. Romo got it. Dax got it. Baker Mayfield's got it. Cam Newton has got it. Matt Ryan has got it. Brett Farr got it. I got it. Dax got it Baker Mayfield's got it. Cam Newton has got it Matt Ryan has got it Brett I got it. I got it

bro No, it no no professional athlete has ever been born That's above criticism Doesn't work like that if you play good, I'm gonna say you played good. But if you played bad, I've got to say that too. It is okay. Ocho, it is okay. There's no such thing as perfection all the time.

As much as we strive to be as perfect as possible, it's impossible to reach. You'll lie. To say you had never heard me criticize Patrick Mahomes, that's just disingenuous. Whoa, you did it this year, multiple times. I did it last year too. And said the reason why they losing game last year because he's turning the ball over too much. All over, much. Yeah. Instead of before y'all come with some facts. Oh, yeah, dude, come with facts. But facts ruin an argument, Ocho. But there is and he was saying, Ocho, people don't understand the difference between criticism and hate. Right. If you play in a sport, I think in my job is to critique and analyze.

I'm supposed to offer that. I ain't some guy in the street that you doing something that I couldn't do. Uh, hello? Y'all better check what's behind me. Y'all don't see my basement, but y'all better check them jerks with them patches on the wall. I ain't just, I got no problem giving people credit. Y'all heard me say I've heaped a fusive praise on Kelsey and Gronk and Gaves and Gonzo. I'm cool with what I was able to do. No hate, no envy. Quarterbacks, I have a great appreciation

because I know how hard it is to play that position. But when you were a little kid and they say all the quarterbacks in this line, where you took your ass and lined up? The quarterback line. You know what comes along with that. Liming on me, deliming on me, wide receivers over there, running back, DBs, linebackers. You chose the line. Criticism come along with that. But guess what else would come along with that? Big paydays. Huge. Big jobs. What position did Tony Romo play? Quarterback. What position did Troy Aigman play? Tony Romo play quarterback.

What position did Troy Eggman play quarterback? What position did Tom Brady play? He was a quarterback. One guy makes 37 and a half million. Another guy makes 17 and a half million. Another guy makes 19 million. Robert Lee says, Shannon, you're wasting your time. Our people are conditioned to be victims. Constructive criticism, no matter how kind,

they take it as a slight. They do. They do, because it's easy. Yeah. It's easy, let me tell you, you know what it is, don't you? It's easier to blame someone else than take responsibility for one's act.

Yeah. How many times, don't you, you heard somebody say bad coach they like me What about you short or late to practice? What about you not coming to practice? What about messing up assignments in practice in practice? So what so you play no role? It's hard for me to believe That a coach is that there everything is predicated on them winning and losing a guy that can help them win I refuse to be a uh A professional victim he knows what it is. I know what it is going into it. I may be prepared for it

I'm gonna be so good. You ain't got no choice but to give me the job. But I can sit back here and blame somebody else for it, don't you? Man, I ain't got that job, man. They ain't even like me. Andrew Warren said best friends tell you what you need to hear, not what you want to hear. They do. I've been very fortunate to have those kinds of people in my life, Bocho. Like I said, I got two best friends, Bucket and Burns, Bucket Quick to say, homeboy, I love you, but you wrong in this situation.

Yeah. And that's the problem in today's era too, you got to think about it. Whoever is the golden goose, most of the time the people around them are yes men. Are people that don't have the best interests at heart. Look at some of the incidents that have happened in the NFL in the off season. The off season has come up for a lot of people this year. They're going to be people that get in trouble. They're going to be people that get in trouble, that have entourage around them, that won't tell them, you know, what you getting ready

to do? It ain't a good idea. You know what? You've been drinking, you don't need a drive. You know what? I'm gonna drive you home. Matter of fact, we gonna leave the car here, give me your key, we gonna take an Uber. Yeah. You'll see. People that don't have their best interest, because you know, if you if you challenge the person who making the money, I mean, it might cut your water off. So everything is a yes. Yep. Yes.

Not telling them what to do and what's in their best interest. Yeah, Brown. Really? Thank you. Should do that. But you know, I love you. But this ain't it. Mm hmm. I really think you should do that, but you know, I love you, but this ain't it.

Mm hmm. It's different. It's different. It is. And that's the thing, Ocho. You're right. You're right. I just, for me, it's just, uh, I need to know that's your job. Your job sometimes is to protect me from me.

Hmm. Ooh, that's a, hold on, hold on, hold on. Hold on. That's a good man. I got to use that I Got to use that In my next argument But that's why oh Joe that's why you have like in certain situations, my partner's supposed to protect me.

Even if I wanna wallow, she like, hey, boy, you ain't finna mess up this money? Man. That's a good line I could use. Like, I'm a deliverer too, with some, with kids. Yes, you know, you're not gonna, I, but I was having an argument, she's like, Shana. I could use like I'm a deliver it to listen But I was having an argument she's like Shannon let that go right But what you willing to risk all that over something petty right no

That's what Bought you in my life, you know, hoping at some point with what I envision after explaining my long term goals to you. I see you and visualize you as an asset to me. Yes. And I'm here to be able to protect me from myself. But this what you want to do? Yeah. Huh?

Don't egg it on. Right there on that spot right there. When I get that delivery, I'm going to let a tear drop out the right eye. Because if a tear drops out the right eye, that'll let them know you're serious. Yeah. Hey boy, I'm ready. I got that set up. I got it right here in my nose.

Ah man. Chris Guadalupe said, Ocho, Buffalo took out both of Uncle's teams. So he can't say the word buffalo, buffalo wings, buffalo sauce, buffalo stampede. Hey, buffalo soldiers. Hold on. You can't. You're talking about you wanted buffalo nickels.

You can't even say buffalo nickels no more. You can't you're you talk about you wanted Buffalo nickels. You can't even say Buffalo nickels no more Hey Chris who's side you all bad That's a good one buffalo buffalo got both of my squads man. Yeah, they added her Uh They are. Bobby Blair said, what Josh Alling is doing is not really with no real elite weapons on offense is so impressive. Allen elevates everyone around him, puts the team on his back. That's why he's my MVP.

Look, considering what they lost, like I said, I thought Lamar's season was too great not to be rewarded with an MVP. But don't you, if people, if they were to give him the MVP, you can't be, I mean, you lose Gabe Davis, you lose, you go hide is gone. Vaughn Miller was suspended a little bit Well, I've got Kincaid got Nick you tight end It's he's been he's been spectacular. We asked him Josh We need you to do what you normally do minus the turnovers and he sliced it hmm He just I mean he did that in a season. Another guy had, I mean, there've been a lot of great seasons.

You look at Rogers wasn't the MVP, but Patrick Mahomes was like 38 and six. But Rogers was 44 and seven is what it is. Rogers was 44 and seven is what it is. Um, only look, if Josh would have gone to win the Subo, uh, he would probably be the MVP. I don't think he'd be too disappointed. I think that'll take some of the sting out of it. And July, those say, tell the bar, give that MVP to Josh.

The MVP is a regular season award. And, you know, we have this discussion every year. Um, give the MVP a wait till the playoffs is over. They've never done that ever. And that they're not changing it now. Yes. No time soon. Later on in the future.

Yes. JPS world. Uh, from fellow SSU alum. I love this show where Lamar Carrere go down as a player who's beastly in the regular season, but can't win the big one. Uh, I think if he doesn't win the big one. Uh, I think if he doesn't win the big one, I think it'll be disappointing. You can't say that It's uh, it's a failure. A guy that's won three mvps

Uh, because remember they wanted him to be a running back to say turn into wide receiver He went three mvps. I do it'll be, I think it'll be disappointing if he has all those MVPs and no Superbowl on his mantle. That's just me personally. So I might say, Hey, but I think, I think, you know, for him to be as great as he is, and at the end of the day, not have that ultimate price. Cause that's why you play. He's going to have money.

He's going to have money. He's going to have more money than he ever imagined. He's probably going to have three, $400 million in his bank account when his career is over. But I think the thing that he's going to want more if he doesn't get one is that Super Bowl. Tim Lee say, I know some people are going to blame it all on Andrews, but Lamar two turnovers and the best responsibility for the loss Lamar playoffs walls continue better quarterback one simple as that. He said it he knows he can't he can't turn the ball over Yeah, turn the ball over

And he got they got points out of it It's unfortunate Because normally when the quarterback doesn't play well, they don't win. Right. It's really not that complicated. So, and that's what I mean. So Jerry golf through for over 300 yards.

So what role did those turnovers play in Detroit losing? Did they play any role? Of course they did. We can't say because the quarterback turned the ball over Ocho. We like said quarterbacks and now try to minimize the turnovers in said game. It doesn't work like that. But this is also too when it comes to having a team collectively. Yes. When quarterback doesn't play well. Mm hmm. Or Lamar Jackson in this case tonight turns the ball over twice.

That's when you need the teammates. To pick you up. You need defense to get this turn, get some turnovers from you. Not only defense, but you need to offer as a players to make some of those plays to make up and power those turnovers. But you're going to have, we're going to have mistakes in the game. Now we just talked about it. You want to be as perfect as possible and play a perfect game, but they're going to be, they're going to be ups and downs. They're going to be momentums. They're going to be swing shifts. And there were swing shifts in

the game, but there are moments in the game where, okay, Lamar Jackson to turn the ball over. You know what, Mark Andrews, right now, I need you. I need you to help me. Help me for the mistakes I made early in the game. That was his chance. Yeah. The game of football is all about moments, huh? Yes. It's all about moments. Yeah.

Uh, if Mark could have come down with that two point conversion, it would have been very interesting to see how this thing plays out from that point on. Oh Joe. Yeah. We'll never know. We'll never know, Joe, but it would have been very interesting to see this thing 20, 20, 27, 27,, now you put it back on your defense It says okay get us this ball back or let's go to overtime and we'll see what happens from there. I

Would have loved to see the DG if I'm out if I'm Mark Andrews I'm keeping my helmet on in the locker room. The boys might lay hands on it. Nah, he played well. No, I mean, look, I've been there. Um, it's tough. It's tough when you have drops or you have a fumble or you have a play that potentially cost your team a game. It's tough. It's tough.

And you know, all your team teammates are going to say all the right things. And it's not on you. It's, it's a team game. Uh, there were other plays out there we could have been made you ain't that's that's not what yeah it's good that your teammates got your back but deep down inside it's like it's killing you it's killing you trust lab Ravens need to go all in on Lamar. They didn't have a number one receiver on the field at most important time. That tells me, uh, uh, Ed DeCosta needs to build a better roster, bro. His number one receiver got hurt.

Well, you think he's going to go get another number one? Uh, you think Mike Evans was available? Uh, I mean, was CD lab available? I'm trying to figure out what you thought he was going to get at this later in the season. There are no number ones available come playoff time if they're not on the roster. Ain't nobody going, hey bro, let me borrow your number one receiver. He ain't in the playoffs. It's not lawnmowers. You need your grass cut, you go borrow neighbors. It don't work like that, don't you? Yeah, it don't.

See, again, they... The re-the re- Not as much, this man, Ocho, this man said, Eric DeCosta did not build a roster around Lamar. The roster is built. Ocho, come on, see? You see what I'm saying, Ocho? He went and got him Derrick Henry.

You got two tight ends out of top ten. Zay Flowers is the first draft of wide receiver by the Ravens to make the Pro Bowl. Raja Bateman played well. Come on, guys. You know, you don't need no number one receiver. Because the number one receiver in that offense will be frustrated and mad at the motherfucker. If you understand the Ravens' offense and and what they do they run the ball. And if, well Ocho, even though they run the ball Lamar threw for 41 touchdowns. Yeah.

Only one other quarterback threw for that many touchdowns and they didn't even make the playoff that's Joe burrow. Yeah If you talk about the roster is a build around Lamar This is what I'm talking about Ocho see you see Ocho this is what I'm talking about When the when Lamar wins is Lamar Lamar Lamar when Lamar loses is the roster isn't good Now all the roster so the roster's the roster isn't good. Now, oh, the roster. So the roster, so the roster, so the roster is not good. So this man has won three MVPs with crappy rosters. Look how many pro bowlers they had.

They had more pro bowlers and more all pros than any other team. Nine, if I'm not mistaken, right? Nine, nine players, or am I wrong? Yes. Yeah. They have a phenomenal roster Rochon Smith of the first team all-pro Marlon Humphrey the first team all-pro Lamar the first team all-pro. Doug Henry the second team all-pro Pat Ricard of the first team all-pro to run it the fullback you got four Pro Bowlers on offense one two three four oh your center I think it's an all pro a pro bowl player Lamar's Lamar's in the Pro Bowl

DeGinry's in the Pro Bowl Ricard's in the Pro Bowl the Senna's in the Pro Bowl and Zay Flowers that's five guys on offense in the Pro Bowl, Ricard's in the Pro Bowl, the center's in the Pro Bowl, and Zay Flowers. That's five guys on offense in the Pro Bowl. Marlon Humphries in the Pro Bowl, Rayquan Smith is in the Pro Bowl. You got a live, you got 2D lineman, Matt B. Quay, and I forget the other guy's name, 99, 90 or 99, 90 is in the Pro Bowl.

So you got nine guys in the Pro Bowl. And the roster's not good enough, huh? So you got nine guys in the Pro Bowl and the roster is not good enough, huh? You're too tight ends combined for more touchdown catches than any other tight end group in the NFL But the roster is not good enough, huh? They didn't give I mean how many yards did how many yards did Josh Allen pass for tonight? The secondary I thought would be what would let them down. I thought they did a pretty good job.

I'm gonna pay Josh Allen pass for 200 yards. Josh Allen pass for 127. Did they have, how many yards did James Cook rush for? I mean that last run not withstanding, last run kind of put the nail in the coffin. But up until then, how many yards did they rush for? I mean that last run not withstanding the last run kind of put the nail in the coffin but up until then how many yards did they rush for? They had 67 total rush yards. Cook had 67 rush yards. One of the other guys that got that last run that was what? 40 yards? I think it was Davis huh?

I think it was Davis, huh? Yeah. But how many yard rush yards did the Ravens have? Ravens ran the ball for 176 yards. Lamar had like 250 passing. Come on guys. They lost. Let's not make excuses for why they lost.

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I mean Todd Monkey might get a job. Is there really so? Yes. All I know he's been there two years and he got a guy to two MVP, but that don't matter. It's all Lamar. Cause Greg Roman got him that got him to this and it's never enough. We got to stop trying to find somebody to put it on Lamar has to do a better job of taking care of the football. Guys when they get in position to make plays they got to make those plays. It's as simple as that. This is not a roster issue. This is not a defense. I mean defense like hold on bro if we don't

turn the ball over that's ten points right there so we don't really all over the game up 17 you put the ball in harm's way we put the ball in harm's way points right there. So we all really all in a game up 17. You put the ball in harm's way. We put the ball in harm's way as an offense. If I told, Oh, if I told you Josh, I was only going to go through 127 yards and they were going to run the air out of the football, you know, Oh, Baltimore's gonna win this game. Yeah.

But we're going to win this game. If you, if you look at the stats, right. You take away the scoreline and show it to somebody who didn't watch the game, who do you think they're going to say won the game just by looking at the stats? Look, what was Baltimore on third down? Baltimore was damn near like 60% on third down. OK, they were 70%.

I lied. That's even better. 70% on third down, you know what? 98% of the time, that's a game you won. Yeah. Ocho, I think Kansas City was the best third down conversion team at 49%. The Ravens was 70% tonight. Crazy. Well said. What do the Ravens need to do with Todd Monkin? He knows the formula for winning,

but yet he puts the ball in the air. Yeah, Ocho and I, we talked about that. Ocho and I, I thought they got away from the run too soon, especially in the first half. They come out in the second half and realize who they are. They're the Baltimore Ravens, they're the bullies of Baltimore, and they go right down the field.

I think they might've threw the ball once, maybe, maybe twice on that drive. And they go right down the field. What I've been disappointed is they'd had 40 plus rushes. Nope. 50. Nope. Cause hell I think they almost had 50 rushes last week against Pittsburgh.

Sean Smith said, should the Ravens try to get T Higgins or Tyreek in the off season? You can get T Higgins. You can get Tyreekiggins You get Tyreek Guys if you turn the ball over in the playoff, you're gonna get beat No matter who you got It's really that simple got football look

Yeah, they call got all these intricate calls and they got to play that's so long now There's an X line and in 50 days and all that but at the end of the day can you take care of you can you protect your quarterback and can you protect the football? That's it. That's all that matters. I don't think people understand it comes down to just that. Just that in the playoffs. To give your team the best chance to win you got to protect the ball. You could you could have Jesus and Nazareth at receiver. If you turn the ball over twice with the fumble, you're losing the game. Look at the teams that lost this weekend. What did all

of them do except the Texans? Detroit, what did they do? Turn the ball over. The Rams, what did they do? Turn the ball over. Baltimore, what did they do? Turn the ball over the Rams. What do they do? Turn the ball over Baltimore. What did they do? Turn the ball over? Now the tension didn't turn the ball over but what the Texas law they allowed the quarterback to get sacked eight times Kemper, norwood jr My question is is the bills the Bills show up against Kansas City when it matters, because if they do, I'll channel my inner Shannon Sharpe. It's going to be a great game. Very good game.

It's going to be a, look, I tell you what, I think Buffalo and Buffalo fans don't want Patrick Mahomes to have the ball with a chance to beat them late in the ball game. They don't want that. They want this game to be put away. Early. Because he's been there, he's done that. And this game is gonna come down to turnovers. Who protects the ball?

Both teams are cold weather teams. Both teams are built to deal with the cold weather. We know it gets cold in Kansas City. It was cold last week in Kansas City. We know it gets cold in Buffalo. So ain't nobody got no advantage. No one. The advantage is who's going to protect the football better. Same thing. It ain't nothing new. The formula hadn't changed. You take care of the ball, you increase your chance of winning. You turn the ball lower, you decrease your chance of winning. It's really that simple, Ocho. Actually, the bugs led it.

Oh, they said the bugs led the league in third down conversion at 51%. The cheesers seconded it. Uh, 48.5ez-Its seconded 48.5 the Ravens was seconded 48.2 and The Ravens was 70% tonight If you you'll lead the league every year in third down conversion, Jojo 50% is great if you pick up 50% of third down because now you stay on the field and give yourself an opportunity to keep the ball and move the ball Close to get the ball to end zone score points touchdown a field goal Ray was 7 of 10

What would they have been if they don't turn the ball over Ocho? In points scooty puff said Shannon kill burrow for every turnover this year said it with his chairs now He's all soft when Lamar has two turnovers in the individual playoff game. Bro, that's my point. When you say that, what did you say I did?

Burrow did what? Turnovers, they lost, you see? Ta-da! When you turn the ball over, no matter how great you play, you decrease your team chances of winning. That's what I want you to say, Scootypuff. That's what I want you to say, Scootypuff. That's it! See, Ocho? Sometimes you let them make your point for you. See, he thought he tried to trap me. What do you bet my point? Yeah he made the point. Turnovers. No matter how great you play.

Sheldon Pope, uh, uh, have you and Ray Buchanan ever came cool after the war, uh, war of words before the Subo? Man, I had, I didn't see Ray after that. war words before the subo man I had I didn't see Ray after that. I have seen Ray in that was in what 98 and I see rain damn the 30 years. No, I want to go read man. Ray was good, but pretty boy rate for one year. Christopher Tillman said I'm a Raiders fan. But I'm a Raiders fan but I'm a Raiders fan but I can still see you catching the ball across the middle of bumping your head on the goal post when you were tied on that run Comes down to play Ocho. You don't turn the ball over that was the difference with us in 2000. Outstanding? Take care of the football. Yup. Long as we don't put our defense on the short field,

oh, there ain't nobody driving the ball. You ain't driving no 80, 90 yards on that defense. No 70 yards on that defense. Please. No. Absolutely not. That wasn't happening. No. Tsunami, who's the best quarterback in the NFC?

Yeah after this run it might be Jane Daniels If the Lions hadn't lost would you have golf up there the best Who made it Pro Bowl for the NFC? Golf? Oh, Jane Daniels? Who else? Oh, Sam Darnall. Okay, forgot, Donald. Okay. Got about Sam. No. Me personally, I don't think Jerry golf is better than Matthew Stafford.

That's my for me. It's okay. It's just hard for me to say after one season, cause I want to see what happens. It's sophomore season. Cause you know, we were ready to a not CJ Stroud and we see what happened this year. Right. So let's give her some time. There's enough time for Jane Daniels.

His first year was sub heard. Let's not take away from that. Shockwave truth. After all the turnovers, uh, the play to be made was not made by Mark. He could have made up for the fumble. See you in New Orleans. Got my tickets. You're right. If you turn the ball over like they did the first half, they come back and win this game, you're like, hey, you played through those.

They overcame adversity, didn't succumb to it, and they won. And that's what it comes down to, Ocho. Sometimes you have to overcome your own mistakes. Those self-inflicted wounds, you're right. But I know the minute, the minute that Mark Andrews bobbled that ball, okay, it was gone. Yeah, it was coming out. You're not bobbling the ball in those kind of conditions and catching it.

All the, all the glove, you know, the new gloves they got now, all that don't do, it does nothing in the cold weather for you at all. Nope. Hold on. When they come in, do they use kicking balls on the two point play or do they use regular balls? Cause you know the kicking ball is different than a regular, oh, than they play with on every dial. The kicking balls aren't touched.

That play slick. It's slick. Now the regular ball. Cause that ball look like it had a little sheen on it. Yeah, a little shine on it. Yeah, I'm not making excuses because Lamar hit him, he should have caught the ball. But I don't know, chat, y'all know?

What? You look, I actually looking it up. Yeah. you look actually looking it up yeah actually gonna find out Vanessa Smith said today is my 60th birthday can you guys wish me a happy birthday we sure can Vanessa happy birthday hopefully you did something fun today you You had to get out, went out, we did brunch. Family, friends, loved one. I don't know if you're in a relationship. Maybe your significant other took you to get a nice meal and you got an opportunity to just...

I see you shooting a shot. Okay. That was slick. Hey, no, he don't shoot no shot. I see you shooting a shot. Hey Vanessa, you shooting a shots? Send him a DM. No. Kyle Payne said, can I get a birthday shout out from Uncle Nocho?

I'm a Navy veteran. Kyle, congratulations, bro. Happy birthday. Thank you for your service. Thank you for your service. Yes. Not only to you, but all the other men and women around the world that protect us

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