Club Shay Shay - Nightcap - Hour 2: Lamar vs. Allen MVP race, Giants lose #1 pick, Bowers breaks TE rookie record

Episode Date: December 30, 2024

Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson react to Baltimore Ravens TE Charlie Kolar commenting on the MVP race in favor of his QB Lamar Jackson over Buffalo Bills Josh Allen. Later, Unc and Ocho di...scuss the New York Giants playing themselves out of the first round pick in the NFL draft and the New England Patriots moving to the top spot, Las Vegas Raiders’ Brock Bowers sets the TE rookie receiving record and much more!03:13 - Charles Kohler on MVP race09:30 - Giants v Colts19:12 - Dolphins v Browns25:34 - Brock Bowers27:50 - Tampa Bay/Baker Mayfield31:10 - Q & Ayyy(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:56 Lamar has 3,955 yards. Josh Allen has 3,731. Lamar has 852 rush yards. Josh has five 31 Lamar has 43 total touchdowns. Josh has 41 Lamar has four intercessions. Josh had six, but how many fumbles for each? We're going to, we're going to, we're going to a Charles. We're going to do it right now. We don't cause turnovers fumbles or turnovers
Starting point is 00:03:25 Let's see how many Josh I think Josh has a couple. I think Lamar has a couple Hey, it's so close though, but it is it is it's so close It's so close and I think it's gonna come down to this late I think it's gonna come down to this last game and in one of them having to have an Extracurricular, uh, a day, they got to do something special because it's so close, you know, to actually define why they deserve that MVP, you know, they, they can't fall by the wayside and in week 17. They can't. The question is, the question is, Ocho, with the Bills already having a number two seed,
Starting point is 00:04:08 are you gonna play Lamar? Excuse me, Josh Allen. No, Lamar gotta play because Lamar gotta win, they can win the division. Oh yeah, oh yeah. Win the division, I get a home game. Then, hey, who knows? I'll take my chances. Hell might get you on games and never
Starting point is 00:04:28 know somebody might get upset oh Joe right a 5c might be somebody or well Lamar never be the five's we'd be before Lamar would be the 4c mm-hmm three you know see you know a LC West a of CE Lamar's the three there'll be three East AOC West AOC East The Mars the three there be three seeded they win. Okay So see I see they could get What if they won that means they would have Who Artie No Pittsburgh can win the division
Starting point is 00:05:03 All the way to okay the winner of the AOC north would be the three said, okay, okay, I see what you say. Yeah Yeah Did we get the the fumbles Is close I said it was close even though when everybody said Josh Allen where it was locked up and run away I said no Lamar still playing too. Well, yeah, I see play it was locked up, it was run away. I said, no, Lamar is still playing too well. Yeah. I said, he played too well. It's not over. And it's going to come down. I said, it's going to come all the way down to the end of the season.
Starting point is 00:05:32 And I believe it will. And I think it's close. I think it's extremely, extremely, extremely close. And but people say, but here's the thing. Yeah. Now, people say it. DAC, look at DAC numbers last year, 12 and five. Lamar had a better record. Right. Less touchdown passes. Less yards.
Starting point is 00:05:54 He got the MVP. Right. This year, he has the less of the records, better the numbers. Allen has the better record. Similar numbers. Right. Okay, Lamar Jackson has five fumble loss, so he has nine total turnovers. Right. Josh Allen has two fumbles loss, which means he has eight total turnovers. So that's how close he is, O'Chul.
Starting point is 00:06:22 Even that's close. That's close. So you got one guy with nine, other guy with eight hey one guy with 41 total touchdowns the other with 43 and um if I'm not if I'm not mistaken and then correct me if I'm wrong the bills have to play the Patriots right the bills play the Patriots okay in Foxboro and who the Raven who the Raven have to play for the last game Ravens played the Ravens, who the Ravens have to play for their last game? The Ravens played the Browns.
Starting point is 00:06:46 Oh, shit, and the Browns, listen, the Browns beat them last time too, huh? Yeah, they ain't beating them this time. No, no. Listen, if I wasn't given the advantage, you see, and these goddamn divisional games, it's different, man. I don't know, it don't matter what you're ready. You just watch, you just watch the Browns. The Browns ready.
Starting point is 00:07:05 Look, Miles Garret playing his ass off. If I'm him, if they can't show me a clear picture, go ahead and get rebuild. But rebuild without me. Listen, listen. A clear picture, fuzzy picture, you already know what it is. You already know what you get.
Starting point is 00:07:22 And you're not gonna be there long enough for them to get it together. No. You're just not not gonna be there long enough, you know, so, you know Somebody give you somebody give you to first somebody a switch position with you in the draft Absolutely. Well, you like the first of all You don't want to switch position with anybody to drive because you go have a higher seat that anybody's gonna be willing to trade Well, somebody give you two first rounders, maybe a player and even a second rounder for miles Garrett, he's 29 years of age and he's a premier pass rusher. Those guys don't fall out of trees. Nope.
Starting point is 00:07:53 Not him. So yes, this thing is going to come down to the end. I, it's going to be interesting. I don't believe Josh Allen is going to play. Excuse me. They're locked into the two seat Lamar Jackson numbers could even look better. Could it be a situation he throws for 4,000 yard over? He's going to throw for over 4,000 yards.
Starting point is 00:08:13 Does he rush for 148 to give them a thousand? I mean, the man rushed for four past for 4,000 rush. 4,000 has 40, 40, 41, 42 touchdowns, Ocho. I gotta give me MVP, I'm sorry. Yeah. I mean, I'm, Ocho, I've been telling you, I've been leaning his way for like the last three, four weeks. Right.
Starting point is 00:08:34 But with 4,000 pass yards, 1,000 rush yards, 40 touchdown passes, what are we doing here? Right. And not a knock on Josh Allen, cause Josh Allen's had a phenomenal season. Yeah. But I can't, I can't let a guy that throws for 4,000 yards rush 4,000.
Starting point is 00:08:51 And with 40 plus touchdown passes, I can't let that season go away in vain. I can't. I can't. The Giants played them, Ocho, the Giants played themselves out of the first overall pick. Remember I told you that's why they, that's why they put your boy in that thing?
Starting point is 00:09:10 DeVito? Yeah. The Giants, three and 13 picked up a win at MetLife, the stadium in its final home game thanks to career days by Drew Lock and rookie Malik Neighbors. Oh, hello. Jermaine, whatever his name is. and rookie Malik neighbors. Ali. Oh, hello. Jermaine, whatever his name is. I ain't finna butcher that man name, but you know, Jermaine,
Starting point is 00:09:31 you rep, you rather your team go out there and fight for every inch they lay down and just take a dance with it. Yeah, you get your ass picked. You get you get your ass picked. That's what you wanted. But what are the players coming into? You got to establish some sort of culture. We're trying to establish a culture that could lead into next year. Once we get more pieces in here, I'm sure everything will still work out how the
Starting point is 00:09:55 franchise needed to work out. Now, new England has the number one pick Tennessee has the number two pick Cleveland has the number three pick the Giants number three so is that a situation does somebody come up and wow New England well or do you sit there and take a Travis Hunter and if here's the thing oh Joe yes sir I like Travis Hunter but are the Patriots one player away or do you or do you give me two first rounders? We switch draft positions. Now I want a first rounder in 26 and 27.
Starting point is 00:10:33 And plus I want a second round pick in 26 and I want a third or fourth round pick in 27. Is that where we go with this Ocho? I don't know. Cause I think they're more than one player away. That's just me personally. And I won't try to go, I won't travel Shador. Clearly, think they're more than one player away. That's just me personally. And I won't try to have to go. I won't travel to your door. Clearly, clearly they're not taking your door because they just drafted Drake May.
Starting point is 00:10:51 May. Yeah. This is, this is, this is interesting. This is very interesting. I think I would love to be in the war room. I would love to be in the war room with, with craft and in Mayo and see what their thoughts is on, you know, the special skill set that, you know, Travis Hunter has. What can he do for us?
Starting point is 00:11:08 What can we do? Even if we are multiple players away from being able to compete and be in contention and looking like we used to look, you know, those 20 years when we had Bellatiger and Brady, can we get a player like Travis Hunter to come in here and, and help us win. Can he be a difference maker? Can he be a difference maker on the, on the defensive side of the ball and the offense side of the ball?
Starting point is 00:11:33 I mean, that, that, that's something that you have to question. I don't know if he's going to play enough to impact it like that, Ocho. Huh? I don't know if he's going to play. I think, I think me personally, what I would do, Ocho, I would trade, I would trade the pick. Right. And I'm going to think me personally, what I would do, Ocho, I would trade the pick. Right. And I'm gonna get me three first, I'm gonna switch
Starting point is 00:11:49 because I'm gonna still be in the first round. Right. But Ocho, you picks away. You a lot of guys away. Yeah. Especially on the offensive side of the football. Yeah. A lot of guys.
Starting point is 00:12:00 Yeah. You need wide receivers, you need some line, you need some D linemen. You need a lot of things to go right in New England. See the funny thing about that, when you say you need a lot of picks like that, would you name it right now? That takes time. That's it. That takes time. That's not happening in no one in two or three years. You think you're going to fix all the situation or all the pieces.
Starting point is 00:12:22 No, because you're going to miss some time. or all the pieces. No, but you're going to miss it. You're going to miss some time. Huh? I got a quarterback. Who missed? I got, I got my quarterback. Yeah. Now, um, can I get bill receiver? Do I go in free agency?
Starting point is 00:12:36 I, I'll make a play for T Higgins. Now you see what I saw now. I got milk. I put it with bootay. I got Hunter Henry at the tight end position. I like Mondrae Stevens. Right. Boom. Now I got some pieces to play with now, Ocho.
Starting point is 00:12:57 Now I got some chess pieces to deal with. I like that. I like that. I like that. Cause you got the cap space. Yeah. I'll pay T Higgins a premium. I give him 31, 32 million dollars. Cause you got the cap space. Yeah. I'll pay T Higgins a premium. I give him 31, $32 million a year at the wide receiver position. I got, Ocho, I got five year, 164.
Starting point is 00:13:13 I give him 80 million, $85 million guarantee. So now I got a wide receiver to go with my young quarterback. I got Hunter Henry, solid tight end. I mean, they got a couple of pieces. I can work with that, Ocho. But you look at the places. New England got the first pick now.
Starting point is 00:13:35 I mean, this could change, Ocho. New England has the first pick. Tennessee got second. Cleveland, Giants, Jacksonville, Carolina, Jets, Las Vegas, Chicago, New Orleans. I'm curious. I'm curious how it's going to pan out. Now the, the, the, the draft order might be what it is right now, but we have to understand what teams need and teams are going to, I don't think panic is the
Starting point is 00:13:59 right word, they're going to do what's necessary. They're going to be on that phone in the war room, doing what's necessary to make sure they get the player they want. Now most of them. I ain't even waiting to get to the war room. I'm plotting right now. Okay. I'm plotting right now, Ocho.
Starting point is 00:14:14 Right. Most of the time we look at the draft, we can name who the first five players are going to go, we can name them. Right now I couldn't tell you you're going to go first. No, because guess what? Free agency happens first. So I'm sitting my free agent board first. Now I can plan accordingly. I get a wide receiver and I get a T Higgins. I don't need a wide receiver in the first two rounds.
Starting point is 00:14:37 See now I kill one I kill to kill the now. Okay. What else can I got? Because they got see how much cap space the Patriots got. They got Bucoop cap space. Oh yeah. Bucoop. In cap space. They got 131 million in cap space.
Starting point is 00:15:05 Ooh, I can get, I can get me to a two players. Oh, Joe. Yeah. Two or three good ones. Good ones. Yes. All of them may got to be everybody. Ain't got to be the best. T Higgins is going to probably be the number one wide receiver. Yeah, I don't need to get the number one wide receiver. The number one office alignment, the number one defensive alignment, the number one, you know, I don't need to get the number one wide receiver the number one office alignment the number one defensive lineman the number one No, you don't like I don't need to get all that. Oh, I get number one. I won't get T Higgins
Starting point is 00:15:31 I'm gonna make him an offer. He can't refuse right? Hey Hey, and I'm talking this one to a T. Look here your unbelievable talent, but you and I both know you always Always gonna be number two in insensitivity. Number one, number uno, he number uno. I'm gonna shoot you straight. Yeah. I'm gonna shoot you straight. Hey, Ocho. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:00 Hey, I'm gonna tell you, sometimes this ain't me, but you got to tell him. You boy, you know your boy cheating on you, right? Ain't none of my business. I don't even know why I brought it up. Right. But you never, you never gonna be the bottom. Or we gonna be number two. Now, if you okay with that, so be it.
Starting point is 00:16:17 I ain't here to judge you. But you can only be number two, because he got a number one. That's who we go home to every night. It ain't none of my business. I don't even know why I brought it up. Come on, man. Come on, come on, man.
Starting point is 00:16:33 Hey, ain't no pillow talk. I'm wide awake. Yeah. That's the thing, Ochoa. I mean, I'm trying to get T Higgins. I'm telling the truth. Oh yeah. But he know I ain't lying. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:48 You know what, listen, and I say it all the time, you know, I consider them two ones. I consider them two ones. They have three teams in the NFL, Chad, listen to me. They have three teams in the NFL that have two number one receivers. I don't care how you cut it, how you slice it. That's the Bengals to me, you know, the Vikings, I consider them to have two number ones as well. Detroit. Now, I like Addison and.
Starting point is 00:17:16 You like the Lions, you like you like Armand Rossaint Brown and Jameson Williams. Yeah, Armand Rossaint Brown. Now, I don't see Armand Rossaint Brown a, as a dominant figure as an outside wide receiver. No. As an outside receiver. He'll slot. He'll slot.
Starting point is 00:17:31 He'll slot. Yeah. Yeah. So that's, that's why I didn't really put them in, in the conversation and them young bulls over there down in Philly. I see them as two number ones. If they, I think Devontae Smith can carry the load on a team if he had to be a one.
Starting point is 00:17:47 And AJ, you know AJ Brown, you know what he could do. So. You look at Chicago with Keenan and DJ Moore. Yeah. Rome with more opportunities. But that's the thing that you got to look at. You have to ask yourself about one player away. Yeah Normally, that's the quarterback because if I got a choice, oh, I'm gonna take a quarterback because he has the ball
Starting point is 00:18:10 And I need guys that's gonna score points every time that's like at the end of the day That's how you win in this league. Oh Joe look at a game 45 33 and 27 Oh Joe ain't no more. You're not winning a whole bunch of games 10-7, right? You just not right. You got to score And if you give me a choice to say defensive guy or a quarterback, I'm taking the quarterback. I'm just saying But clearly see The Patriots need another wide receiver and I'm going at T Higgins I'm gonna make him an offer he cannot refuse Oh, yeah, the Dolphins keep their slim AFC playoff hopes alive with a win over the Browns 223
Starting point is 00:18:48 It wasn't pretty but Tyler Huntley led Miami Dolphins. They took care of business Oh Joe now their eight and eight remains a hotly contested three-way battle for the AOC final playoff spot Hey, the Broncos win their end Broncos win their end. Dolphins need a win and a dog and a Bronco. No, the dolphins need a win plus a Denver loss. Uh, the Bengals, the Bengals, the Bengals, they need the, they need the Denver to lose and Miami to lose. So they're just not out of the woodwork just yet.
Starting point is 00:19:25 Oh, Joe. Oh, no, no, no. And they have to be, they have to be Pittsburgh. That's going to happen. Miami has to lose. They gonna lose. And the Broncos have to lose. And they gonna lose.
Starting point is 00:19:37 And this is Miami Miami Miami are playing the jets. You know, I don't like, I don't like the fact. I don't like the fact that our future is in the hands of other teams. Yeah. I don't like that. If we had handled business at the beginning of the season, instead of, you know, putting ourselves in a hole like we always do every goddamn year, this one a little worse than others and having to dig ourselves out, we wouldn't be in this situation.
Starting point is 00:20:04 So that bothers me that we have to rely on other teams and hope that, Hey, we hope you guys win and we hope these guys lose so we can get opportunity to get into the playoffs. Um, it's unfortunate, but that's what we are now. So I'm hoping, I'm hoping, you know, all the cars may fall in our place. Because if they, if they do, all right, don't be surprised. I told you the storyline. Enjoy.
Starting point is 00:20:33 Y'all ain't getting there. I told you the story. These ain't playing nobody. Because if you what you say, what are the cheesesteaks? So you still believe your Broncos gonna beat the cheese? Yes. You do remember how much we put on it, right? Yeah, we put a thousand dollars on it.
Starting point is 00:20:51 Okay, I just wanna make sure you remember that. I don't want you to forget. I don't want you to be upset. I don't want you to blame. I ain't gonna be upset. I don't want no excuses. I want my money in warrants too. Cause I'm to go celebrate.
Starting point is 00:21:14 So the Broncos are in with a win. If they win, they don't need nothing else. They can still get in if the Bengals lose. That ain't going to happen, but go ahead. But I like our chances. I don't want to think of anything else. Check this out, Ocho. Myles Garrett made NFL history week 17 by becoming the first player to tally at least 14 sacks in four consecutive seasons. Garrett noshed two sacks today, which is how so happens to be his 29th birthday to meet the milestone. I mean if they had a little better record, he he smack dab with a defensive player of the year. Yeah, most definitely.
Starting point is 00:21:47 Why? I don't really know. I don't really know who's going to win defensive player to you. I really don't know. I really don't. Because no, I don't think anybody's had that you're like, Oh my God, it's gotta be him. Yeah, well, they ran away with it. Nobody ran away. I mean, he's probably gonna win the sack total. I mean,, he has 14, I mean, he has 14 now. I think Hendrickson has 13. Okay.
Starting point is 00:22:10 It's gonna be interesting to see what, well, Pittsburgh don't play until next week. We'll see what Pittsburgh, what they can do on Burrow. Yeah. But right now, and Cleveland, I mean, he could, I mean, he could get another sack or two against Lamar, but, but when I look at it, I mean, he could, I mean, he could get another sack or two against Lamar, but, but when I look at it, I mean, I mean, who's your defensive player of the year? TJ Watt, Miles Garrett.
Starting point is 00:22:37 Listen, TJ Watt and Miles Garrett have been playing. So he's tied right now with Trey Henderson. They are tied? Yeah, 14, both have 14. We know that, we gotta see how this last game goes. We gotta see how this last game goes. I'm hoping. Well, we know Henderson's not gonna get it,
Starting point is 00:22:58 not on that bad defense. Right. He not gonna get it. Yeah. Damn. So it's probably gonna be out of miles, Garrett, and TJ again. Probably. I'm trying to think to myself, who else is playing stellar defense from an individual standpoint, regardless of position?
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Starting point is 00:25:14 Rookie tight end Brock Bauer led the Raiders in receiving with seven catches, 77 yards and set several records. Bauer set an NFL record for the most receiving yards by rookie tight end and a single season and the most reception by rookie in a single season Hello the most reception by rookie in a single season in this oh in the second quarter, right is that what you say? Okay in the second quarter, okay Bowers also set a rate of single season record for the most receiving yards by a rookie and the most receptions.
Starting point is 00:25:48 I mean, what's the record? The most reception by a tight end is Jason Witten, 116? Or Zach Ertz. Ooh, 116. What they was dealing with. Cause he has, what did he have now, 108? Cause I think Malik Nabors has like 106. He's right there on him.
Starting point is 00:26:09 Mm. About Zach Hurts, okay, Zach Hurts has 116. Brock Bowers has how many? 108 now? So he's nine catches away from breaking the record. Hey, all I know, I'm throwing in the ball. I'm throwing in the ball every day, every day. Oh, I forgot, Pat Sartain gonna get some votes, too. Oh, yeah Because when he covered Jamar chase after on what six seven targets
Starting point is 00:26:33 He had three catches for 27 yards against sir tan and when sir tan wasn't on him What's it called? Joey Joe burrows honey Well, hey, oh Burrows hunting him. Well, hey, oh, you gonna guard somebody else? Jamar, get ready. So Sir Tan is gonna get some, he's gonna get some votes. He good, man. That joke a fluid.
Starting point is 00:26:55 Oh, he good. Oh Joe, that joke a effortless. You real nice. Hey listen, to be that size, to be that big. Yeah, he tall, he tall. He like six two, six two and a half. Hey listen, to be that size, to be that big. Yeah, he tall, he tall, he like six, two, six, two and a half. Hey, listen, to be that fluid, to be that smooth,
Starting point is 00:27:09 he got great hips, great technique, he can play off, he can play man. He's really good and always in position to make a play. Always in position to make a play. I like him, I like him a lot. Oh, Joe, Tampa exploded offensively, punting just once all afternoon, opened the game with five straight scoring drives.
Starting point is 00:27:30 Becker Mayfield posted his first career game in which he threw for 350 plus yards, five touchdowns, connected with Mike Evans for two of those as he became the seventh player in NFL history with six or more seasons with at least 10 touchdown receptions. And now I think he's what 80 yards. He's like 80 yards away from getting another thousand yard or another,
Starting point is 00:27:54 a thousand receiving yard season. Right. And they play new orders next week. Oh yeah. He's going to, he's going to get that. He definitely going to get that. And then you know what, he don't have to deal with Marshawn Latimore either. Nope. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:04 You go out there and go out, go out there and have you something. So Baker was 20 of 27 of 32, 359, five touchdowns. Bucky Irving, 20 carries, 113 yards. They ran the ball 40 times for 202. Mike Evans had eight catches for 97 yards and two touchdowns. Baker was sensational. Bryce Young was 15 of 28, 203, two touchdowns. No interceptions.
Starting point is 00:28:28 It was just overmatched. Adam Thielen had a day. Five for 110, two touchdowns. They just don't have enough offensively on them. Too much, too much, too much, too much five. How do you deal with it? Mike Evans needs 85 yards to have, that'll be as 11 straight or 12 straight thousand yard season Be as level straight now Jerry has the record with 14 total 1000 yard seasons
Starting point is 00:29:10 You gonna get that though you definitely getting that oh yeah, oh I'm feeding I'm a feeding. I will make sure he gets it right But Baker's played extremely well Baker has gotta have like 30 something touchdown passes, doesn't he? Baker has 30 touchdown passes? Damn, he's 39? Wow! 39? Yes! Shit.
Starting point is 00:29:43 And he's over 4,000 yards, right? Oh yeah, I'm not mistaken. I just looked at it. Well, it's gonna be, hey, Ocho, it's gonna be real interesting, this Pro Bowl. The AFC Pro Bowl quarterbacks. Yeah, no you mean him. You got Joey B, you got Mahomes 15 and one,
Starting point is 00:30:00 you got Josh Allen and you got Lamar Jackson. Somebody get left home to take three. But listen, listen, this might be, this might be, you know, they change the rules and take folks. They changing the rules. And now the NFC, you got Jared golf, you got Baker Mayfield, you got Jalen Hurt. You got Sam Darnall. Darnall, ballin'. You know what?
Starting point is 00:30:22 I can't wait. I can't wait to get the Pro Bowl. I can't wait to get the Pro Bowl. Cause you know, I got to work and I'm finna, I'm fin in. You know what? I can't wait. I can't wait to get the pro bowl. I can't wait to get the pro bowl. Cause you know, I got to work and I'm gonna get everybody autograph and they finna sign my jersey. I want everybody autograph and give me a jersey. Oh Joe, now it's time for our final segment of the evening. Now it's time for Q and A.
Starting point is 00:30:45 Well, God damn, that shit went by. Oh, my bad, my bad, my bad. Hey, can you do me a favor? What? We should start a little plot, right, for me, to kind of help me with my discipline when it comes to using derogatory language. Every time I curse, I put a dollar in the pot, right?
Starting point is 00:31:06 Your whole check will be gone at the end of the month. But this is the thing. And then we give it away to... I like that idea. Sure. I'm all for it. Yeah. Matter of fact, no, let's make it $20. Every time I curse, $20. Now you won't have no money. Yeah. Matter of fact, no, let's make it $20. Every time I curse, $20. Then you won't have no money.
Starting point is 00:31:25 $20 and at the end of each month, we tally it up and we give it away to somebody in the chat. Okay. I'm good. That's a good idea. Blah 91 say, oh, I've never seen so many good rookies in the NFL. Is that indicative of the rule changes? I mean, in all the, look, they throw the ball. Yeah, that's it all depends. Look, they throw the ball.
Starting point is 00:31:45 Yeah, that's it. You added games, you throw the ball more than you ever have. Yes. If you notice, it ain't a whole lot of rookie running backs doing this. I mean, Bucky Urban, I think is the only rookie running back. And I think he's written pretty close to 1000 yards. But the receivers, you look at Malik, you look at neighbors, you look at Brian Thomas, you look at a Brock Bowers, you saw the quarterbacks come in, you see Jane Daniels come in, and that's what you're going to get. But these guys are, they're more skilled now.
Starting point is 00:32:12 They do all these seven on seven camps. They grew up in seven on seven, whereas before that didn't happen. They're getting, they're getting coached by NFL guys that throwing coaches. These guys got throwing coaches in high school. Yeah, yeah, most definitely. And you know. In college. So it's different, but the rookies aren't yet. The rule changes helped, but at the end of the day,
Starting point is 00:32:32 guys still gotta go out there and. Gotta perform. And gotta perform. Yeah. You're absolutely right. Aaron Owen said, a 60 meter dash between CJ 2K, Prime, Tyreek, Bo Jackson,aryl Green, who you taking? And they primed? And they primed? Right!
Starting point is 00:32:52 And they primed him? And they primed. I'm trying, who? I ain't gonna lie, I ain't never seen nobody beat Daryl Green. And I'm talking about, he race an Olympic champ. Yeah. That'd be a good race.
Starting point is 00:33:05 Prime, absolute prime. Well, that would be a great race. Woo, that'd be a good one. That'd be a good one. Damn, that's a good one. I think I'm going I think I go with Prime or both. Both, both, both, both Twitchy. You see how, you see how Tyreek is right now, I'm gone.
Starting point is 00:33:35 Now you see, now you know time Twitchy. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I know that, I know that. Yeah, time, time real Twitchy. Ooh, whatever, that, that, that,, that, that's what they should have had. Right. But you, oh, they used to have that NFL fastest man. Oh yeah. Dow green, uh, they had Hershel Walker.
Starting point is 00:34:02 I don't know if Sam Grady ran, but they had Willie Galt. Yeah. Oh, they had some guys. Oh yeah Sam Grady ran, but they had Willie Galt. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I just seen it go across Twitter a few times. They had it running in them gray shorts. Yeah. Throwing back. Jeremy Shepard said the greatest defensive team in NFL history, basic versus
Starting point is 00:34:20 the greatest offensive team in NFL history, who wins and why. So what, what, what are we talking about? We talking about the 85 Bears? We talking about the 80s Bears or the 2000s Bears? Yeah, not that you meant, cause I'm like, okay, you said the greatest NFL team. Now, who do you think the greatest? Is it the 85 Bears?
Starting point is 00:34:42 Is it the 2000 Ravens? Is it the 02 Bucks? Is it the O2 bucks? Is it the, uh, the, uh, the 12, the 13 Seahawks? Is it the 76 Steelers? I mean, what, who, who do you consider the greatest team? Okay. Offensively is it the old seven is an old seven Patriots. Is it the 13 Broncos?
Starting point is 00:35:01 Is it to the 83 is is it the 83 Washington football team? Boy. I'm biased because I happen to be, I wasn't on the defense, but I was on the Ravens when that defense, and I saw it up close and personal. You had to see it. It's different. But that's when they let you punish the quarterback.
Starting point is 00:35:22 And all those teams for the most the most part with the exception of the The 12 Seahawks Will let you punish the quarterback. Yeah, you could punish him in 2000 You can punish him in 02 you could punish him in the 80s. You could punish him in the 70s Mm-hmm. You talk about punishing the quarterback the quarterback. Yeah anybody on the office anybody. Yeah receive. Oh, yeah yeah. There was, there was no, yeah, there was no, no, no, nobody, nobody was spared. Why receivers, uh, quarterback, right? Oh yeah. And today, Oh Joe, the thing is is that, they, the thing is that what teams figured out
Starting point is 00:36:17 is that the mistakes that they made, the 85 Bears, they were known for the bear defense. So what they did, they covered up the center and the two guards. The 46, right? The 46 defense. Right. What they did, they covered up the center and the two guards. The 46, right? The 46 defense. Yeah. And what they would do is that they would stretch it. So they would take Wilbur Marshall and put him over the tight end. Right. And they would take Dent and kick him outside.
Starting point is 00:36:38 The problem that people have is that they was taking a tight end or the running back to try to block Richard Deer or Hampton. Well, that's not gonna work. And so what they did, they started fanning it. So they would take the tackle because now what they realized is that that guy wasn't gonna come. He had a tight end of man, but when he blocked, he would come and hit your quarterback in the mouth.
Starting point is 00:37:02 So what they started doing is releasing that guy, take the tackle and kick. Now, if they brought both of them, you just look hot because normally the backer, the inside backer was going to have to try and take you. Right. So you just get with the hit you with the ball, you take off running, but that would be great. I'm going with, I'm like I said, I'm taking the 2000, I'm taking the 2000 ravers is the greatest defense. I don going with, I'm like I said, I'm taking the 2000, I'm taking the 2000
Starting point is 00:37:27 Ravens is the greatest defense. I don't care what nobody say. Yeah. And I'm only taking on the Ravens and the Demon because I saw them. Because I didn't, I didn't get to watch the other teams. I didn't see the 85, 80 cents bears. I wasn't able to see them. I didn't see the Steelers when they had the steel curtain back then, you know, but that, that, that two, man, I don't think people understand. Isaiah Lancaster says, Uncle Nocho, is this the best generation of quarterbacks, Mahomes, Lamar, Allen, Burr, Herbert,
Starting point is 00:37:55 and does Lamar or Allen overcome the Chiefs? Well, let's see the now or never. Look, we've always had an influx of quarterbacks. You had Montana, you had Elway, you had Marino, you had Kelly. You've always had quarterbacks. Right. They're just young.
Starting point is 00:38:13 I mean, because think about it. All those quarterbacks, only one of them won a Super Bowl. All the quarterbacks you mentioned, only one of them won a Super Bowl. Right. Only two of those have an MVP. If you think about it right now, Ocho, only two quarterbacks in the entire league
Starting point is 00:38:30 have Super Bowl as starters. That's Mahomes and that's- Marjax. No, Aaron Rodgers. Oh, you say MVP, my bad, my bad. MVP, Super Bowl, has Super Bowl. Oh, Super Bowl, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. As starters.
Starting point is 00:38:43 Oh yeah, yeah, my bad. Hey, only three have the MVPs Rogers Mahomes and Lamar. Yeah, that's crazy And crazy oh I forgot Who in the Rams Stafford has a super bowl Oh staff. Oh, yeah, staff did yeah, don't don't remind me Don't don't remind me. Don't remind me. Cause that wasn't a pass interference on that four. That no look pass was the greatest throw in NFL history. That was a very, that was nice.
Starting point is 00:39:15 That was- Given the circumstances? That was nice. That's the Super Bowl Ocho. That ain't no pre-season game. That ain't no regular season game. That's for all the marbles. I can give credit where credit's due. Bowl Ocho. That ain't no preseason game. That ain't no regular season game. That's for all the marbles. Yeah, I can give credit where credit is due.
Starting point is 00:39:27 That was nice. Oh, Russ, too. Russ got a Super Bowl. It's four. So Russ, Rogers, Mahomes and Stafford. Stafford. Only two have Super Bowl MVPs, that's Mahomes and Rogers. Only three have regular season MVPs. That's Rogers, Mahomes and Lamar, right? But if they
Starting point is 00:39:49 These guys are young too. So they gonna be duking it out for a while little you got Lamar at 27 You got Alan probably 27 burrows like 28 Herbert is like 25 26 My homeboy just turned what 29? So they're gonna be good they gonna be they gonna be going at this for a while, Ocho And I'm glad of it Brandon Martinez. So you guys keep forgetting how many weapons Lamar has to compete to Alan. He's carrying Buffalo well Right. It's not an easy decision. You can make you can join fix this You can make a compelling case for either guy.
Starting point is 00:40:28 Yeah. It's just, oh Joe, somebody got to argue for the defense. Somebody had to argue for the prosecution. It's really that simple. Oh Joe. And the funny thing about it is, is, uh, is so close. It's so, you would damn to have to nitpick. You would have to nitpick and find some to say, well, Josh should win it for this reason
Starting point is 00:40:48 or Lamar Jackson should win it for this reason. When the numbers are so close, the records are so close. I mean, listen, I think it's going to come down to this last game and you said, you said Josh Allen might not play because they have a number two seed? The number two seed locked up. There can't be anything but the number two seed. Well, listen, that's the case. you think Josh Allen might sit and might not play well Lamar Jackson might get it just for the performance he has against
Starting point is 00:41:11 the Browns as we coming up yeah you're right yeah Oh Joe Flacco won the Super Bowl and he got an MVP we forget about Joe and because it was so long. It was so long little well I mean he won more more recent than Aaron Rodgers, but he won one and he was the Super Bowl MVP now You could have made a case for Jacobi because Jacobi was sensational Jacobi he saved he and Flacco saved the day against the Broncos on third and forever. Called a game with it.
Starting point is 00:41:49 With a safety misjudged it. Raheem O, yep. He did. Ocho, Tim Lee said, if the chiefs are so scared of the Bengals, which I know they're not, why would the chiefs let them in? Can't have it both ways, Ocho. Oh, who mentioned anything about them being scared? I didn't say anything. I didn't say anything.
Starting point is 00:42:08 I don't even speak on the Chiefs, you know? I don't say anything bad about the Chiefs. Now, what I have done is anytime there was a game going on, I would just say the Chiefs were gonna lose. Just to say it, really not really understanding that because of my homes, they probably not gonna lose anyway. I just said for context purposes, just to go against them. That's all, that's all.
Starting point is 00:42:27 They're really good. They're really good and they will always be good as long as- Y'all ain't gonna make the playoffs. Who you talking to? You. You don't think we're gonna make the playoffs? No. What part about, what about the big end or the big old?
Starting point is 00:42:41 No. Okay, we'll see, we'll see. Now when we make it, Now when we make it, now when we make it, I don't want you to say play or off. No more. Trey Caesar said, do you think Commanders win a Super Bowl by the end of JD5 rookie deal? Well, it's a lot easier to win on a rookie deal than it is when you start. Because by the time he get a deal,
Starting point is 00:43:09 you got to understand what the money's going to be. He's going to be 70 million. We're going to be nasty, boy. Cause he's going to sign a deal after his third year. So that's two years away, Ocho. Yeah. It's going to be $70 million. Hey, good work. Let me get all that too.
Starting point is 00:43:26 Yes. Why? And if you ain't got no money, go get it from the federal reserve. But I need all mine. Question. If Larry was to win a ring in 2008, where would you rank his playoff run? Larry. Larry for sure.
Starting point is 00:43:44 Oh, oh, oh, that run he was on? Yeah. And that thing was nasty. But who had a better playoff from Larry Fitzgerald or Cooper Cupp? That's true. Man, but see that Coo finished it off. Because here's the thing.
Starting point is 00:43:59 You gotta think about what Coo did in the regular season, Ocho. Yeah. 142, 1942. Who a Cupp. triple crown, and he showed up every day. In the playoff, and he was cutting up. But Larry, that was crazy. That would've been crazy. Jerry had some runs, I mean, when Jerry did.
Starting point is 00:44:20 Yeah, yeah, yeah. When Jerry did have runs, there's a reason he got all the records in the postseason and the regular season for retriever. But yeah, man. That Super Bowl, the NLC championship, the game against the Falcons. Fifth had a run. I give crap is how to run. But I think I'm gonna go with I think I'm gonna go with cup. I give him credit, he had a run, but I think I'm gonna go with Cup. Don Dove said, uh, give my boy Zach Brown some attention for defensive player of the year.
Starting point is 00:44:54 Not a household name, but he's been playing his 10 long. That's the mic backer. Oh, man. Hey, that's the mic backer from Philly, huh? Yeah, 53. Hey, he nice, boy. He is. Boy, listen, I don't pay from Philly, huh? Yeah, 53. Hey, he nice, boy. He is. Boy. He is.
Starting point is 00:45:06 Listen, I don't pay attention to linebackers that much, but because of his play, you ain't got no choice but to know him. Yeah, he jump on the screen. You gotta play. You ain't got no choice but to know him. Yeah, he pop. Oh, yeah. He nice.
Starting point is 00:45:17 He pops, Ocho. He pops. You might not know him. I mean, he doesn't have one of the big names. He's not like a, what's the guy saying, Fran? Fred Warner? Fred Warner. You know, you got Fred Warner, you got Zaire Franklin.
Starting point is 00:45:29 You got B Wags in Washington. Right. Zach Ryan, boy. Very nice. He can play. He can play, I love his game. Danny fan said, oh, please give my honest opinion on the Chargers, cause you're real.
Starting point is 00:45:44 I like the charges He got him playing harm harbar got him playing Jim harbar got him playing really really well They got weapons JK Dobbins being able to run the football definitely helps they got justice. Uh, he'll he's there too, isn't he? Mm-hmm injustice you there cuz they got both of the guys from the Ravens Yeah And I like they got my month. They got my boy Quinn Johnson Quinn Johnson. You see this boy You got what's the guys from the Ravens. Yeah. And I like they got my boy, Quinn Johnson. Quinn Johnson, you see this boy?
Starting point is 00:46:07 What's the guy that back up? The J.K. Dobbins and the Chargers. Q, you playing with confidence, Quinn Johnson. Keep that thing going, boy. Gus Edwards, Gus Edwards. That's the guy, Gus Edwards. Both former Ravens. Hey, he's like hey, John Potter's hey,
Starting point is 00:46:28 these guys will really work for you, Harv's. And guess what? They know the offense because Greg Roman is the offensive coordinator. Oh yeah. Hey, you going somewhere for New Year's? No. Oh, you gonna stay home?
Starting point is 00:46:46 Yeah. OK, OK, OK. Go where? Oh, no, I mean, I didn't. I ain't been to be out there. I ain't been to be out there that craziness. Oh, no, I ain't talking about that craziness. You know, I normally have my, um, my, my, my ritual.
Starting point is 00:46:59 Uh, I always go to the Bahamas for junk anew. You know what junk anew is, right? Yeah, I've heard of it. Yeah, so, uh, I just, I just had, I just got myamas for junk anew. You know what junk anew is, right? Yeah, I've heard of it. Yeah, so I just had, I just got the ticket for junk anew. I'ma leave out on the 31st in the morning. So when the ball dropped, then you go to, I go to junk anew like two in the morning. I'ma watch junk anew from two to six.
Starting point is 00:47:23 And then my flight leave at 12 or 30 to go to Jersey for inside the NFL because I got to be there. I got to be there the next day. Oh, Sheldon, pull it up. Today is Brian's birthday as a gift. D-Law got his train to the Brooklyn. Well, you know, you're wild for that. Oh, I got all kind of saying for you, if someone keeps saying the word, if you say if it was a fifth, we'd all be drunk.
Starting point is 00:47:46 Yeah, we would. So that's why you're not going to the playoffs because you keep saying if. I ain't say if. I said we are, we, very confident. Ain't. Hey there, it's Michael Lewis, author of Going Infinite, Moneyball,
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Starting point is 00:49:21 Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And you will be glad you did hope you could join us for the postseason run. T.S. Car wash detail service said you guys most expensive Christmas gift received or given. you guys most expensive Christmas gift received or given? Oh man, I ain't got no money man. What the hell y'all talking about? Who the hell?
Starting point is 00:49:53 I'm trying to say everything. Most expensive gifts someone has given me. as someone is giving me. I just want y'all to know women who I ain't no Christmas gift, okay? Nah. Yeah. I'm trying to think, Oh Joe, let me try to think. They saying the most expensive gift you got?
Starting point is 00:50:22 Yeah, yeah, something that you received. Well, shoot, it had to be that Bro, let me tell you what I got. Oh Joe. Talk to me now. Talk to me. Wait, take your time. Go ahead. I got 20 t-shirts. Oh That's what I'm talking about. You know, I got tweet t-shirts, you know I like the Marvel characters stuff like that. I'm man and Batman and Stuff like that. Hmm. Give me what?
Starting point is 00:50:53 Right. See remember remember when I asked the chat and I told the chat on what I want for Christmas Yeah, I talked about my tank tops my wife. He's in my underwear from Hanes from from Target Boy as she gave me no Christmas gift What y'all got me y'all gave me Chris what are you waiting for my birthday? What's the most expensive Christmas gift you've given? Oh my goodness, jewelry. Yeah. Yeah, jewelry, jewelry, you know.
Starting point is 00:51:37 How much? I can't even tell you the numbers because there's different pieces. And it's kind of out of character for me. But you know, I have- How? Listen, let me tell you how. Let me tell you how.
Starting point is 00:51:54 Okay. Because you know, when it comes to me, I ain't spending shit, but when it comes to a certain individual that came into my life at one point, I started acting out of character and doing things that weren't characteristic of the way I move and the way I spin.
Starting point is 00:52:10 And then that's, I don't know how it happened, I don't know what happened to me, but yeah, that's it, you know. The numbers, and there was no price that was too high. Yeah. It's crazy, it's crazy what happened. I try to keep it under, and then there was no price that was too high. Yeah. It's crazy, it's crazy what happened. I try to keep it under, I keep it under 30. 30,000?
Starting point is 00:52:34 Yeah. Yeah, that's a good number. That's a good number. That's a good number. WaveAid 52, yo, Uncle Nocho, love the show, been watching since the first episode debut. Y'all keep going, brother, since being in a bad accident. Hold on, y'all keep me going brother,
Starting point is 00:52:51 since being in a bad accident at the job. Wave, we sorry to hear that bro. Hopefully everything is healing up and you'll be back on your feet in no time. But we appreciate the support. We appreciate our loyal listeners and viewers, people that's been supporting Ocho and I from day one and the nightcap family.
Starting point is 00:53:08 So bro, we're praying for you for speedy recovery and, uh, thank you for your continued support. Yes, sir. Mr. Mugga sticker stickies. Hey uncle, no joke. You give my newborn Mia love a shout out. She's officially 20 days old.
Starting point is 00:53:25 Thank you. Our youngest Nightcap member. Congratulations. 20 days old. Thank you so much. Congratulations. Bang, bang. Please shout out my dad, Skipper Thomas.
Starting point is 00:53:41 His birthday, he made 60 today, the 29th. I gifted him a bottle of La Portier and tickets to the New Orleans show He's a prostate cancer survivor. Hey That's what I'm talking about. I'm missing that. Yep Bang bang. I appreciate you for the support. I too was a cancer. I'm a cancer survivor So me and your dad have a lot in common. Hopefully you enjoy the cognac I can promise you you're gonna enjoy both the cognac and the show. I can't wait to see you there skip Jay Taylor my wife surprised me with tickets to the New Orleans show. I would like to upgrade him to VIP section Is that possible?
Starting point is 00:54:20 JT reach out to the venue. Um JT, reach out to the venue. Call them, no email, just call them and tell them what you would like to do. I'm sure they can accommodate that. But thank you, bro, thank you for coming. Gifted hands, hey uncle Nocho, can I get a shout out for my new fiance and I. We got engaged on Christmas morning
Starting point is 00:54:42 after seven and a half years of dating. Can't wait to see you guys in February I'm Jaylin. She's Janet. Okay gifted hands, uh Janet Congratulations, Jaylin. Congratulations to Jaylin and Janet They watch they're gonna be at the show can't wait to meet them newlywed. No, not engaged newly engaged Yeah after seven and a half years, bro, seven and a half years, you know, Janet back
Starting point is 00:55:09 with them forwards, she knows you back with them forward, glad you're taking that next step, can't wait to meet you guys in New Orleans. Yeah. I, I show, I show can't wait to make my next step. Yeah. Uh, Vivian Vivian, it can be Uncle Nocho. Do you guys ever read comments? Where you leave them at on the bathroom wall? Hell nah In the chat
Starting point is 00:55:34 Yeah, we read comments I mean we always I mean, you know We got people that go through read the comments cuz we try and improve if there's something that we need to prove Sometimes people need comments y'all need to do more of this. Less of that. Uh, of course. Uh, I know y'all like Mandy ad, but bro, that's how we pay the bills. I mean, y'all see all those commercials.
Starting point is 00:55:54 What y'all think they do most of it. You see more commercial during the Superbowl than the actual game. Oh yeah. Somebody got to pay for that. So, uh, yes, we do read commercial. What did you want to say? Is there something we can improve on? Something you like for us to do more or less? Like for us to do less? Sure we're always trying to do is improve the show give our viewing and listening audience the best show that we
Starting point is 00:56:15 possibly can. Von excuse me Von Reed said Uncle Nocho today is my birthday can I get a birthday shout out turn 31 love you boys boys bond. Happy birthday, bro Thank you for watching. Thank you for supporting. I don't know what you did for your birthday. Hopefully you did some fun I don't know. Hopefully you shook the colors full dark. Yeah, what I would have did on my birthday Was shaking the cover. Hey, I ain't talking about making no bed either. I got a birthday coming up to what? We your birthday on the ninth. Remember? Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:45 Yeah. Yeah. I'm on a nine. Hey, what'd you think I should do for my birthday? Hey, check, give me some ideas. Cause you know, I don't, I don't celebrate. I'm not in the parties. Don't, don't put me in no environment with a whole lot of people.
Starting point is 00:56:57 I say a prayer at 1159. I'm good. I gave me a cigar and I gave me some cups of coffee and I'm good. I sit there and relax, you know, I'm trampol I gave me a cigar and I gave me some cups of coffee and I'm good. I sit there relaxed You know, I'm trampolining at 11 58 1201 i'm done I'm right on time. Okay. Yep Know what I got for you That's all I got. Oh, so that's all I got for you. That's all I got. Oh, that's all I got. Was it a 12 or one?
Starting point is 00:57:25 Yeah, it sounded as unfortunate, man. I'm still I'm still and I'm still out in a position where I can partake in those activities, whether it be vertical or horizontal. So I'm going to see what I can do. Well, you better. Hey, you better get right. Get right. Dr.
Starting point is 00:57:39 Frankie L. Bellamy. Hey guys, just check it in to say hello with the new year around the corner. What's the game plan for 2025? Any big resolutions or goals? Nope. My only resolution. I ain't chasing lies.
Starting point is 00:57:52 I'm going to let y'all have it. Whatever y'all say I am, whatever y'all say I did, what it was, intentional or unintentional, whatever you say, I'm done. My grandma told me that said, boy, never chase a lie. I just know now. I just see it. I see what y'all write. When I don't comment, it go away.
Starting point is 00:58:07 Yeah. I ain't had no, I ain't give y'all no more content. Produce all the content you want, but you will not get me following up. I'm done. That's my only resolution. 24 was great for us. 24 was one of the best years.
Starting point is 00:58:21 Yeah, I had some setbacks. Yeah, I had some ups and downs, but it's been one of the best years. 25 is gonna had some setbacks, yeah, I had some ups and downs, but it's been one of the best years. 25 is gonna be even better because it's gotten off, ooh, it's already gotten up to a great start. We got shows, we gonna have the tour, we better understand how to do the tours. It's gonna be bigger and better.
Starting point is 00:58:37 We're gonna go to more cities, but that's it. That's my only resolution. I am not, I am not chasing a lie. So I let y'all say what all y'all say. I see it. Do I see it? If I don't see it, somebody sent it to me. Lie, lie, lie.
Starting point is 00:58:51 I ain't chasing it though. I'm not going to respond to it. Go ahead Ocho. So my, my new year's resolution is, is to, to not curse as much. You know, I'm in, I'm in therapy. I'm in counseling right now for my cursing. I like, I like cursing chat. You have to listen to me or now for my cursing. I like cursing, chat. You have to listen to me on why I like cursing.
Starting point is 00:59:08 I feel that cursing is a sentence enhancer. You know, it's no different than when you cook and you add seasoning, it gives it flavor. So if I say, you know what, man, you my dog, man, I love you, man. You see, that sounds good. But if I say, you know what, man, I fucking love you, man. You see that sound good. But if I say hey, you know what man, I fucking love you It's the difference in meaning and delivery and the way you say things That's why I think curse word is so important
Starting point is 00:59:32 But I think I'm gonna try to trim back on it a little bit I'm gonna trim back on a little bit and that's good luck with it. Yes resolution All right. Good luck with that. We're gonna get a lot of money Black midges say what's up? This is my fourth room, eight time wink wink. Can you please give me a big shout out to my nephew, Avery Helms, who graduated from T.C. Ash Alma TCU, Ash's alma mater.
Starting point is 00:59:57 He is an amazing young man and a hell of a DB. We're also proud of 24. Oh, Joe. Yo. This is T for room, X town, wink wink. So I guess you know who that is. T4, wing, two four. Shit, I don't know. But, I don't know, huh? Well, he say he like wink wing like you know who he was.
Starting point is 01:00:25 So I would take you to work. What he played the week? No, his nephew does. Okay. Okay. Okay. Graduate. He graduated. He graduated from TCU. Hey, Tennessee State. No, he would. He went to T.C. Texas Christian. Hey, Tennessee State, did my Tennessee State?
Starting point is 01:00:46 No he went to, he went to T.C., Texas Christian. Oh TCU. Yeah, he said, I guess he had met you at Houston. At that room y'all went to. Man, I don't know what you're talking about man, I can't remember man. No, I got CT, I can't remember. I can't even remember shit from last week. Well, well, tell your nephew congratulations. Well, nephew, I said look out.
Starting point is 01:01:10 That's a big, that's a bigger compliment. Graduated from college. Yes, sir. No. How you figure? Can you please give a big shout out to my nephew, Avery Helms, who graduated from TCU, Ash's album model, he's an amazing young man of DB.
Starting point is 01:01:33 I guess he's like, he met you, cause he's like wink, wink. Oh, okay, okay, okay, okay. I don't, you shouldn't put a wink in there. That kind of threw me off a little bit. I don't, you shouldn't put a wink in there. That kind of threw me off a little bit. Oh, he said this is T from, but I'm trying to, how does four come in?
Starting point is 01:01:57 I guess he's like, he's T from, I guess he's saying he's T from H-Town. Do you know any T from H-Town? Nah, I mean, I probably do. I don't know. I'm just, I can't see a face. So it's hard, but you don't have a face, you know, to give you a better understanding of who it is.
Starting point is 01:02:13 Right. Yeah. So- Well, hell, if you saw his face, obviously you know who it was, Ocho, but you can't see his face right now? Yeah, I know. I don't, yeah. Ain't nothing I can do with that. But listen, I love you.
Starting point is 01:02:24 I love you, homie, and wherever you are, I appreciate you. I say, you congratulate him to your nephew, take a nephew. He can't cover me. He couldn't cover me in my prime. He couldn't cover me when I was born, and he can't cover me now. Let him know that. And if he wants some smoke, let me know. I'll come down to Houston with my police.
Starting point is 01:02:40 Avery, you can cover Ocho. Shit. Avery you can cover Ocho She That concludes this edition of night cap thank you guys for joining us Please make sure you hit that subscribe button Please make sure you hit that like button and go subscribe to the night cap podcast feed wherever you get your podcast from y'all know Me, I'm your favorite uncle, Shannon Sharp. He is the Liberty City legend, binger ring of fame honoree, the pro bowler, the all pro, that's Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson.
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Starting point is 01:04:46 Best sports comedy podcast, please go vote for us The link is at the top of the in the chat pinned on our social pages and in our social bios Ocho the commanders needed overtime, but they got it done. They walk it off Jayden Daniels Hit Zach Erts for a touchdown as they win 30 to 24. Daniels was 24, 36, 227 and three touchdowns. Michael Pennings Jr., 19 to 35, 223 and one touchdown and an interception and a losing effort.
Starting point is 01:05:18 The Vikings defeated the Packers 27, 25. And now they put themselves in position to be the number one seed with a win over Detroit last game of the season What else we got here Eagles clings to NFC East title Saquon Barkley is now he went over 2,000 yards He now has 2005 with 101 rush yards on Sunday against the Giants.
Starting point is 01:05:48 Saquon Barkley will have the greatest rushing season, single season in NFL history, breaking Eric Dickerson record of 21-05 set in 1984. As they crushed the Cowboys 41 to seven. Who else did this? The Bills defeated the Jets 40 to 14. Aaron Rodgers had one of his worst days. Giants played themselves out of the number one overall pick
Starting point is 01:06:22 with a 45-33 victory over the Indianapolis coach. But the guys said we don't care about the number one pick. We try to set a culture. We're trying to win. We'll let the front office worry about that. The Dolphins kept their slim playoff hopes alive with a 23 victory over the Cleveland Browns.
Starting point is 01:06:41 Now they need to win and get some help. The Raiders went back to back game for the first time this season with a 25-10 victory over the New Orleans Saints. But the story, Brock Bowers set an NFL record for the most receiving yards by tight end in his rookie season. Most catches by tight end in his rookie season has a chance outside chance to break the NFL record held by Zach Ertz of 116 catches. Brock Biles now has 108 with nine catches. He'll have the single season record. Bucks defeated the Panthers 48-14 behind a 350 plus yard passing day and five touchdowns by Baker Mayfield.
Starting point is 01:07:19 They run rough shot over the Carolina Panthers. That concludes Nightcap. Thank you guys for joining us. We'll join you. We'll see you tomorrow night after the 49ers and the Lions matchup. I'm Humph. He's Ocho. We'll see you tomorrow. Tomorrow. The Volume. Hey there. It's Michael Lewis, author of Going Infinite, Moneyball, The Blind Side,
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