Club Shay Shay - Nightcap Hour 2: Lane Kiffin’s DECISION is LOOMING + Coach Prime’s TIME is TICKING in Colorado + Shedeur LOOKS to KEEP MOMENTUM vs 49ers + Unc & Ocho BLAST Trevone Boykin for leaking Russell Wilson’s BUSINESS
Episode Date: November 30, 2025Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to Oklahoma beats LSU to keep their college football playoff hopes alive, Lane Kiffin is still making a decision on whether he takes the L...SU job, and Shilo Sanders goes viral for trolling Shedeur over the holidays and much more! 0:00 - Oklahoma beats LSU3:10 - Still waiting on Lane Kiffin’s decision6:40 - Shilo trolled Shedeur over the holidays9:30 - Browns/Shedeur Sanders19:30 - Jaxson Dart will start against Patriots27:05 - Trevone Boykin says Thanksgiving at Russell Wilson house was weird42:10 - Eagles ruining Philly love lives49:40 - Lane Kiffin to LSU52:30 - Play or Fade54:35 - Q & Aaayyyy (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Okay.
Still waiting on Lane Kiffin decision.
Oh, number eight, Oklahoma beat LSU 1713.
The sooner seal off the playoff spot
with a comeback win over LSU.
John Mateer threw a 58-yard touchdown pass
Isaiah Santanaga.
How you say his last name?
Santanaga.
I know his dad was like a decathleted
or something at an LSU.
So with 416 left to overcome a three interception game,
the sooner's are in position to host a first round game
after winning four straight.
Hey, this was the defensive game.
Yeah, but I like the way LSU played, man.
Hey, look, they got talent.
I don't know if they just got tired of Brian Kelly
his message wasn't resonating
Right
The guys didn't like you me
I don't know what transpired
But to play on the road
To play as hard as they played on Joe
Yeah
Yeah
And they say hell
They fight they fighting
They were fighting
Most of the time
Especially in a situation like that
You know your head coach
Your head coach is fired
He's gone
Sometimes you got to worry about your players
Giving up on you
Yep
You got to worry about your players
giving up on you.
Well, they fought well today, man.
It's a good defense's the game.
Yeah, with three toners, with three tone of us, hell, Oklahoma, lucky.
Barry.
Well, look, if they get, if LSU has some, some,
LSU got to get a quarterback.
Now, the one thing Lane Kippen can do,
Lane Kiff can get a quarterback with that level of talent
that's on that roster.
Yeah.
And the way they can recruit,
and what they promised now, allegedly,
they promised him somewhere $20, $25 million roster overhaul.
oh you can go get some five you a somebody that's in the portal
no Elaine Kiffin the amount of players that he sent to the NFL now back to
back what 10 11 win seasons right going to make get a college for a playoff
birth yeah he's gonna he gonna get the boys in there now he gonna get the boys in there
yeah 14 million but they said uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh ls uh excuse me the old miss would be
willing to match anything to LSU
as far
as pay wise.
And then
it's not like, hey, if you
leave, what is that?
What part of Mississippi?
It's not Starkville. That's where
Mississippi State is. Oxford.
It's not like, they make it seem like
you, what is Malibu?
I mean, Baton Rouge is a college town
just like Oxford is.
Yeah.
So, man, who on the
to live in Oxford.
The same people that want to live
in Baton Rouge?
Or as they say, Baton Rouge.
Baton Rouge.
So,
we're still waiting
on the decision, Ocho, from Lane Kiffin.
According to a new report from Matt
Muscana, Lane wants
the LSU job and to
coach the team in the college football
playoff. O'Miss is not going to allow
him to do that, but doesn't want to
sabotage their best season
in 60 years. Keith Carter
gets paid to make tough decision.
So he's going to have to make one, don't you?
What you're going to do?
You're going to let him coach knowing that he's leaving?
Or you say, nah, go and get the stepping, bro.
I don't understand.
Let him finish a job.
Let him finish what he started.
Once the season ends, he should be allowed to go where he wants to.
But don't, don't say, okay, if you're going to LSU, you know, you can't coach the final
game.
I mean, to me, that, to me, that's like, let him go.
Let me go out on the shield.
How many times if coaches left before the season was over?
All the time.
What's their season ended?
They don't coach the bowl game.
Didn't Lincoln Riley do that?
Didn't Brian Kelly do that?
Yeah, I'm not sure.
So what are we saying now?
Now, Coach Saber, y'all know that thing about Coach Saber.
But Coach Sabre and fired Lane Kiffin because he said he couldn't be the OC.
He was focusing too much on being the head coach at FAAU
than being the office of coordinator in Alabama.
And he let him go.
I don't know.
I mean, I wouldn't be that.
Because here's the thing.
If it's a situation because we've seen Ocho,
star players get hurt, X, Y, Z happen.
Are they still going to be in the college football playoff
knowing that Lane is gone?
That's a good way to look at it.
I mean, Trinidad Chambers,
is playing unbelievable.
I got Kouan Lacey
is running unbelievable.
They got a good team.
Now they're going to put points on the board.
Mm-hmm.
You know what's funny when I think about it too?
The players that recruited,
the players that he recruited
or went to Ole Miss,
and if he does leave the LSU,
I'm sure they're probably going to hit the portal
and follow them.
They might.
Because, hey,
does he have any eligibility left?
Champlain.
Because if he go to open,
if he go to that,
I know if he do what
Caleb Williams did
remember Caleb Williams in Oklahoma
and when Lincoln Riley went to USC
Caleb William went with him yeah
see
that's not
they not that's exactly what
oh
so
yeah because I know what you're trying to do that too
pavia
well pavia
we're probably trying to do.
He's trying to get another eligibility.
Oh, yeah, okay, okay.
With that COVID season, huh?
Right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Coach Prime spoke after Colorado
finished the season three and nine.
This is what time had to say after the game,
won't you?
Okay.
When I win, I don't mind a clap.
When I lose, I don't mind a bull.
I played this game.
I know this game like the back of my hand,
and I love this game,
and I love all the ups and downs and outs about it.
And I'm built for every last bit of it.
but if anybody's built to reconcile and to get this back on course as me,
and I will do it if it's the last thing I do on earth.
Trust me when I tell you.
This was the last supper.
God bless.
I like it.
I don't mind having praise when I do good, but I don't mind getting blue.
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When I do bad, that's what you expect.
When you get in the coaching, you already know.
You already, every once in a while,
it's not often, Ocho, that your first job
is your last job.
Because there's a good chance.
You're going to be like a Pentecost minister.
Every seven years, your ass getting shipped somewhere else.
Or if you're in the military, you might be, you might start off at Fort Stewart or Hunter or, you know, Fort Carson or Fort Dig, Fort Bride.
You might start there.
But you ain't ending up there.
You understand that.
You understand when you're in the military, the friend that you had in the first grade, you probably not going to have them in the fourth or fifth grade, oh, Joe.
And the ones you have in the fifth grade, when the time you're a freshman, they're going to be just a memory.
That's how it worked.
And when you're a coach, you already know.
Hey, baby, don't unpack them bags.
Don't you unpack the bags.
That's crazy how that works, though.
It's crazy how it works to know that if things don't go well
in a two or three years span,
there's a chance that you might have to uproop your family again.
Yeah.
And again, I mean, just, just, you know, I change my mind.
You don't have to coach.
I just thought about that.
You got to tell me.
Yeah, I want to think about everything.
else that comes along with that.
Mm-mm.
Mm-mm.
Hell no.
They lose by the score 2414 to K-State.
Salter held 14 to 25, 172 yards, and an interception.
They ran the ball 47 times for 151 yards.
They just got to get more talent.
That's it.
That's what the lane will be able to pull that off.
Hey, a donkey is not winning the Kentucky Derby.
I don't care who his trainer is.
Bob Baffer, Shig McGahey, D. Wayne Lucas, rest their soul, doesn't matter.
I got to use that.
It doesn't matter.
And it doesn't matter if Ron Turcourt, rest your soul, he was on the back of secretariat.
I could have been on the back of secretary.
and our horse is going to win all three races.
That chestnut coat was that bad.
Yeah.
Sometimes, Ocho, it don't even matter about you.
Secretary was just that bad.
So when you got,
sometimes you just have to, like, not get in the way,
but Coach Prime is going to have to build this thing up.
Yeah.
He might have to do less of the portal.
Because he had to, one of the receivers,
the top receivers in the country at Arizona State was at Colorado.
He left before time got there.
Jordan.
What's the Arizona State receiver?
Tyson, Jordan.
Arizona State.
Jordan Tyson.
He wore number zero, right?
Is that the one?
He wore number zero, I think, if I'm not mistaken.
I can remember.
I think I know who you're talking about.
But he's like he rated
He rated high
Like that, huh?
Mm-hmm
Yeah, zero, yeah
Yeah, that's him
Yeah, he's nice
He nice
Yeah, he's nice
Yeah, he's nice
But he's gonna have to get it fixed
This year, Ocho
Because I think
I think
The natives are gonna get restless
Yeah
Because he said he was coming with Louis
He said, you're bringing my luggage
Now, look
The likelihood of you
You're not, the likelihood of you find another Travis, Travis Hunter?
That ain't happening.
I mean, it just goes to show you the impact that two players can have.
Mm-hmm.
Your quarterback and a dual threat.
But he's going to have to get it together this year.
2026 is going to have to be a eight-win, eight-win season.
Right.
Mm, that's crazy.
Because you would have had enough time.
I get the first year, but this would be his fourth year.
You would have had time to get a couple of,
recruiting classes in these are your guys now right they're no longer belong i don't know
who the coach was before him who the coach before he was derail i know they won one game
before pram got there and college football is crazy man especially with the nil it it
evens the playing field and most of the top schools that have the money and have the revenue
He was in devil with the coach.
They take advantage of it.
They take advantage of that NIL, man.
Ocho, speaking of Sanders' family,
Shiloh, was hell on Shador during Thanksgiving.
Let's take a listen to what Shiloh shenanigans.
Look at him studying his plays and whatnot before his big game.
What a good boy.
Studying your place so close to Fancy, don't get math.
Safansky, I even study my place on Thanksgiving.
If we own it, we don't have to pay for it.
We own it.
Well, ask this guy right here.
You can start a phone guy for the Cleveland Brown.
You're talking about me.
That was only one week.
All right, God is great.
Thank you for letting Shador start finally.
We appreciate it.
Please help him this Sunday.
Go for 500 passing yards.
So both is weird.
The win.
We want your passing yards.
Just the win.
Yeah.
Running some touchdowns.
Just two.
The win.
Yeah, so you can win and get my parlays.
Frank, I'm just flying.
I don't bet on this.
God, thank you for everything.
Thank you for allowing my mom to cook today
and really put her elbow in collard greens today
because they're really good and they look great.
Lord, please allow Shador to do his best
so he could pull some strings and give me on the Browns too.
And she's making them 21 available somehow.
But what is this award?
They're the franchise man, 21 gold, man.
Well, never mind, 28 will do.
Thank you very much, Lord.
And Jesus name, amen.
I like that.
Hey, that's funny, man.
That's funny.
Listen, that's what having a brother is about, man.
That's what having a brother about.
They're going to make fun of you.
Obviously, I have two brothers myself, Sam and Chauncey,
and it's been like that all the time.
It's been like that all the time.
We'll make fun, but you wasn't going to do that at the dinner table
with somebody praying.
That's for sure.
not the old people
I know your grandma wouldn't because
I know Mary Porter wasn't going for that
Oh no no no no
It's different times
It's different times right now
We're in totally different time
When the prayer is going on
You know it's silent
That that prayer they mean business now
And don't think about that
And you had to have your eyes closed
Oh yeah hold on
You are you looking around if you want to
Listen
Hey my family prayer
When it used to be
When it felt like Thanksgiving
Back in the day
when everybody meet that big mama house
my auntie Arenner
I had an aunt
that was a preacher
and she would say to prayer
oh my God
I'm talking about she gave you an extended prayer
but it was an extended prayer
with a banana clip on it
but it was a it was fire
it was fire she gets
she gets to talk about everybody
everything with everybody
Would everybody need and ask, oh, man, it was beautiful.
It was beautiful.
I missed those days, man.
Thanksgiving, and I could just be honest.
Thanksgiving hadn't been the same.
And damn near, man, what, maybe 15, damn near 20 years.
Yeah.
We, but, oh, you, that tradition and ain't.
I mean, I really knew once my grandmother passed, it wasn't going to be the same.
Yeah.
We weren't going to get together like that.
Yeah, you know, you know what I don't like to?
What's that?
the way our grandmothers and grandfathers kept the family
together tight-knit kept it together holidays everybody together
nowadays like right now during the time now the only time you see everybody
is where it's a funeral yep that's the only time everybody get together
you ain't lying no joe i hate that you ain't wrong when you're right
But, uh,
Adam Schafter is reporting that the Browns are open to giving Shadour
an extended look for the rest of the season.
But much of that decision will be dictated by how he plays starting Sunday.
35 mile an hour wind.
It's supposed to be a snowstorm, but okay, yeah, I get it.
Okay, let me pretty show you.
According to Shepton, the Browns are not worried about how much Sunday's weather
might affect Sanders.
It is expected to be cold with snow and wind, typical Cleveland conditions in late November.
As Stefansky said, he played.
in Colorado, and that's a lot of win, and you're going to get, you're going to get all
sorts of weather, so he's good to go.
Okay, if I'm sure do, I say, you know what, this week, let go Shadoor, let, let a Dillon start.
I get next week in the end of, hey, I think he's going to be all right on.
As regards to the conditions, regards to the elements, he's going to have to adapt.
The running game is going to have to be.
be what it is, if it's as bad as
they say it's going to be.
Running game got to be on point.
Pick your poison, pick your spots
when you have to throw the ball
and just make the right decision with it
and don't turn the ball over.
Give your team a chance because the defense is really good.
That's all it comes down to.
With that defense on show,
they're going to be in the game.
Absolutely.
Miles Garrett, Denzel Ward,
they got players that can make plays.
So as long as you don't turn it over,
put your defense in harm's way by creating
short fields, you'll be fine.
Make them go, hey, you know, a throwaway
is okay. Punning the football is not bad
in conditions like this. You have to understand that.
If you're in field goal range, let's stay in field goal range.
Let's not retreat, bubble back, bow, and give up ground,
take a sack. We can't do that.
The points are going to be at a premium in the game like this.
This ain't going to be no 30, no 31, 28 ball game,
mocho. This ain't that type of game.
Let somebody turn it over and you're getting picked,
and scooping scores.
Right.
But driving the football,
if the weather's going to be as bad
as what they indicate
that they think it will be,
right.
You ain't getting that.
Uh-uh.
No.
No.
No.
So it's going to be very, very interesting.
Look, it's, uh, almost one o'clock.
Yeah, he had to bed asleep.
Who that?
Shador.
Oh, yeah.
He probably thinking, Lord,
please let the sun come out tomorrow.
Ooh.
Just let the sun come out.
I don't care how cold it is.
I prefer it to be 40.
Just let it be 40 degrees with the sun out.
I can't wait.
I can't wait for tomorrow, boy.
I don't really ask for much.
I know that might be a little excessive.
Ask you to change the weather.
Could you just change the weather when we got the ball,
sunny, when they got it, blizzard.
I'm trying to think who play tomorrow.
Huh?
They played 49ers.
No, I know.
trying to say, no, I know they played it for you.
I'm trying to think about who plays
tomorrow, like good games, like good
matchups. Oh, oh, okay.
Oh, Buffalo, you're talking about like...
Four o'clock. Four o'clock. That's a good
one. Buffalo and the Steelers.
Oh, yeah, yeah. But you know, Buffalo is both of their
tackles. Oh, yeah, Dionne Dawkins, he's hurt.
Yeah, and the right tackle got his feelings hurt
because the Texas was running right by it.
Oh.
He probably had a little neck.
Colts.
Texan Colts.
Daniel Jones,
he got a,
I saw him try to get out of the pocket.
Yeah.
Man, he was hobbling, Ocho.
Something wrong with his giddy up.
Oh, you saw that?
Yeah, I saw that.
Yeah.
I think, let's see,
he got a crack fibula.
Oh, man.
A little crack fibula.
They'll shoot him up.
He won't feel it.
I don't really know where you can shoot it up at,
Ocho.
They should give him some tortoise.
Get him some tortoise.
all. That's what I meant. But he did, I mean, the way he looked when he took that snap
and tried to roll out. You saw that? Yeah, I saw it.
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Ah, I don't know.
That got the hurt, boy.
Crack your fibula?
Shudor just has to build
on the momentum
that he created from last Sunday's win.
Yeah.
It's not going to be perfect.
You understand that it's not going to be perfect
and you have to accept
that it's not going to be perfect,
but you make the best of the situation
that you have.
Right.
I don't have to be perfect, but I can't cost my team,
I don't have to win the game, but I can't be the reason why we lose the game.
Right.
I can't put the ball in harm's way.
I can't throw a pick.
I can't fumble the football.
I've got to make very good decisions.
Field position is going to be huge.
Yeah.
Because, you know, you start out, you try to play, hey, I'm going to try to keep you
pin down, keep you on your side of the field, make you punt.
I get ball in midfield, get a 10, 12-yard return.
Another first down.
We're in field-go range.
range, yeah.
And so that's how you have to play it by the best.
You just can't, you can't put your team in harm's way.
And he's done it, he didn't, you know, he had the one in a reception,
got a little careless with the ball, but I think the thing is,
you can't, it's hard to play, it's hard to be good and play careless.
Yeah.
It's hard.
You can't go out there worried about, man, man, I run this route.
If he throw it to me, what if I drop it?
Right.
That ain't even crossed my mind.
Mm-hmm.
But we got to, we're going to say it's going to be very interesting.
It's going to be, obviously, that's the one o'clock winter.
So that's obviously one of the game.
Is that a CBS or a Fox game?
CBS?
Oh, no.
Yeah, but what you call them, Nasson, Nasson, Romo won't be there.
Yeah, Tennessee Jacksonville.
Oh, Buffalo, Pittsburgh.
Unless that's a Sunday night game.
That's 4 o'clock.
Okay.
Okay, yeah.
Do what, Ocho?
No, I was saying the 4 o'clock game.
Bill Steelers?
Yeah, Bill Steelers.
That's what Romo and Nance would be.
That's a CBS game.
That's going to be a good one.
Texans Colts, what time is that?
Is that an 820 game?
Texans Colts.
Ooh, that's a damn good.
So that's going to probably be, that's the number two team.
One o'clock?
Probably JJ Watt.
Yeah.
That's JJ, yeah.
For sure.
Boy, you know,
but you won't believe
who played 8.30 tomorrow.
8.30 winning.
Tomorrow night?
Yeah.
Ooh.
Oh, the Bronco play the commanders.
Yeah.
You put something on them.
Nah, Jayden Dan is playing.
Y'all definitely feeling this.
Hey, no, no, don't play, Jaden.
Because the boy, we got them headbusses.
I, listen.
We got headbusses, Ocho.
I got a feeling.
Then you got head bustle, but you also got a quarterback that can get out the pocket.
Oh, Cho, we got headbusses.
We lead the league in sacks.
What we do, we attack the quarterback.
Okay.
Y'all going to win the game?
Yes.
Okay, keep that same.
Remember that.
Chat.
Remember that.
Let me write that down.
Oh, Joe.
You see, what we do, we like the wild dog.
See, the wild dog is very unique because they do something.
They're not overpowering.
They run you until you get tired until you can't go on anymore.
then you just
you know lines can overpower you
hyena jaws can crush bones
the biggest bone
then wild dogs just
they got
they got energy for days
yeah that's what them head
that's what we got them edge
Cuban Benito Allen
oh and guess who's back
guess who's back guess who's back
guess who's back guess who's back
oh wait hold on
Oh, yeah, you said it.
Scary, scary Terry, not back yet, huh?
Hey, you know what?
That old hamstring's still a little tight.
I see y'all next week.
Hey, you sound real confident, bro.
You sound real confident.
I bury highly.
All right.
That's good energy.
Yeah.
No disrespect, but you're saying.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, respect.
Listen, no disrespect.
Ocho, it's over.
Jayden, go ahead and sit this out, be ready for next year.
Put you on another 5, 10 pounds of muscle so you can withstand those legs.
You've got to be a little smarter.
Know when to get down, no one to get out of the back.
Don't be afraid to throw that blink on and make sure this off season.
You get all your, you know, all your equipment, the tail lights, all that's working.
Because when you put that blink on, you want to make sure people see it.
Mm-hmm.
Hey, and don't be afraid to, hey, that turf, Ocho?
Yeah.
Get up under, pull it up over you
Like you do covers
Uh-huh
Make sure they can't hit you
Damn
Yeah, y'all are gonna lose
I can tell
Look at hell
You bad, look at all
You're gonna lose
I'm just saying
I mean you're doing too much
Like too much hyping up
I mean y'all
Listen, y'all
Y'all good
But it ain't what you're trying
To make it seem like
Ocho
I'm just
I'm just a harbinger
I'm just telling you
I know y'all lead
You know what a harbinger is
A who?
A harbinger
Nah
What the hell is that?
I'm just a messenger
Okay
I just hear the brain
I'm just here to bring good news
From the broad calls
All right
All right
Ah
Ooh
Yeah we'll see
We'll see what
We'll see what the command has got to say about that
Okay
We're fit to sweep the
Tennessee East?
Oh, Joe, Jackson Dart will start week 13 against the Patriots.
He took the podium to share classy tribute to his former head coach Brian Dayball.
Dart said, obviously, there's been a lot happened since I've been up here.
I just want to acknowledge that Coach Davs and all he did for me,
when I look back on everything, it's really special to come to a place
where a coach genuinely cares about you and loves you,
and you have that personal relationship on and off the field.
I just have all the respect in the world for him.
Ocho, I don't know.
Have you ever had a coach fired during the season?
No, no.
Obviously, you know, I was in Cincinnati.
I mean, that Mike Brown, and that's not there for a team.
No, because cheap-ass Mike Brown ain't want to play nobody.
That you're not working for me and I'm going to pay you and I got a guy asking
coach and I got to pay him too.
Oh, no.
Yeah, yeah, I've never had that happen.
Mm-mm, mm-mm.
No.
No, I mean, I haven't had a coach.
Coach is fired during the season, but obviously I never had coaches fired after the season.
And it's tough.
It's tough, especially when you build up a relationship.
You go like Coach Reed, Coach Reed drafted me.
He was really smart to draft me, but he was, I don't know what,
he lost to bump his head because he forgot to cut me.
Wade Phillips came in after Coach Reeves and brought Jim Fosselin, rest his soul,
who built his offense around a tight end when that was unheard of.
So when those guys, and I kept a relationship with Coach Reeves,
I kept a relationship with Wade Phillips,
and I see Wade.
It's just like, because I owe a lot of my starting to Wade
because Wade was a defensive coordinator in Denver
and told Coach Reed to put me in the game.
Wade did that.
Put him in there.
Yeah, Coach Reeves drafted me and believed in me
and say, son, you can play in this league.
He said, I've played in this league, I've coached in this league,
you can play.
You got what it takes to play in this league.
He believed in me.
Put a couple of plays in there.
Hey, when I got in there,
I said, I'm going to call this play.
I'm just for you.
One time you called a play for me and I effed it up.
Hey, so.
How you eff up your play?
I get it if you mess up a play that's really not intended for you.
Right.
But you go get the ball.
Mm-hmm.
Little by little.
I get so happy, man, I get so happy, or I get so amped up on your,
I forget everything.
I forget everything.
I did, man.
I get so hype, man.
I just, I just, like, I'm just panicked.
Oh, man.
But, uh, yeah, it's tough because this is what Jackson Dart knows.
Brian Dayball personally selected him.
Yeah.
He wanted Jackson Dart.
Yeah, as his quarterback.
That's the quarterback that he wanted.
He wanted Jackson Dart.
And I think Jackson Dart needs to understand one thing, Ocho.
I understand you tough
and it gets the crowd going
and it's nice your team
but you're not been to make no living
running over no defensive players
trying to run people over
yeah he's tripping
nope
he's driven somebody
somebody gonna get to him
well they already got to him
he didn't he miss three games
with a concussion?
Yeah but you know
he all ahead
he's young he ain't for to listen
he's going to get somebody
going to catch him clean
and he'll be like you know what
this ain't for me
and we stay behind my
computer. Let me stay behind my camera and do what I need to do from there. Ocho, one of the
stories that we're about to talk about now is really upsetting to me. X NFL quarterback Trayvon
Boykin said Thanksgiving at Russell Wilson's mansion felt weird because none of his family
was around. Let's take a listen to what Boykin had to say, Ocho. Yes, sir. Russell Wilson,
I went to his house for Thanksgiving. The word is, like, he catered. So no, you know, like,
Bro, I come from a traditional country-haired black family.
We're doing that.
If I got as much money as Russell Wilson,
my whole family would talk about me so bad
if I ain't fly everybody out there for Thanksgiving.
And I'm sponsored by an airline.
Maybe he's not close to his family.
Maybe he not.
But his mama wasn't there?
Sisters wouldn't there?
You know what I'm saying?
Like, even though, like, it still worth me.
I'm just still, even if you don't fool with your family,
like, it still works me on Thanksgiving.
family going to do the food this is what we're going to give you the one with the money we
come to your house you know what I'm saying that I let me out that part that's what we're going to do
so to get over there and catch rustle whiz and like him is literally him Sierra
Sierra Daddy me Nooney baby future the chef in two nannies
and in three dogs and baby future at that time was bad
as hell.
Hey,
I got a question.
Mm-hmm.
I hope I got an answer
for you too.
Why is he sharing
the information anyway?
Because
see, that's what
not chat.
Now you see
why I don't have
a whole lot of
mofos at my house.
See, he worried
about somebody else
family, your black ass
there.
He invited you.
He looked at you
like family
and what you do.
Turn around
and come and talk about.
Got down real the mouth.
You think you sell it, telling something.
Man, I went to Russell House.
That mansion, it was weird.
Yeah, because he had an outsider in there.
That was the weird part about it.
That's why you don't let people come to your house, chat.
Nobody.
First of all, no, me and my brother had money.
Guess what Thanksgiving were always at?
Granny's house.
Even though we couldn't get back, it was always going to be there.
When we had a big-ass cookout on your, guess where it was?
In Granny's backyard.
Damn.
I don't get it.
I'm confused.
Why is everybody always looking for a moment?
Why is everybody always looking for a moment to go viral or to get your love 15 minutes?
He lets you into his home on Thanksgiving, a special day.
Okay, if the family wasn't there, maybe they don't get it along.
Maybe they don't see the eye to eye.
I mean, just, I don't, I don't get it.
I don't get it either, Ocho.
I don't understand.
His family was.
wasn't there, but you was there.
But you take this opportunity now years
later. To talk about it.
Because Russ ain't been in Seattle for a long period of time.
Right.
And now you bring this up.
That's correct. Because you try to, oh, guess who was there?
Sierra Daddy,
uh, Nooney,
uh, uh, uh, baby future, the chef.
For the most part,
I have a get-together.
I'm catering it.
Yeah.
I just don't get, bro, I don't get that.
Why you put this man, this man invited you into his home?
You tell it what's happening inside this man home.
That's what, see, and people are, man, you anti-social, no, I'm anti-tie people running their damn mile.
Ain't nobody.
That man invited you into his home.
Oh, so I guarantee Russ don't invite a whole lot of people into his home.
No, absolutely.
say Russ was standoffish.
He's not, he invited you,
invited your ass into his home.
And the things that he get,
no good deed goes unpunished.
This is the things he get.
I don't blame, Russ.
Now I see, Ross,
no eff with a whole lot of people.
I'm sorry, Russ,
that you had to find out the whole hard way.
That some ninjas ain't ish.
Oh, that's messed up.
And he thinks he said something,
he got his hat, cocked to the side.
where he's just like, oh, these nuclear codes.
Let me tell you what's going on aid.
Let me tell you about the agreement that the Ukraine is about to sign with the Russia.
He had like he giving some information like that.
Yeah.
Talking that.
Bad.
That's messed up.
Damn.
I don't worry about what somebody in somebody relationship is with their family.
That he got nothing to do with me.
At all.
I don't know what his family.
done to him. I don't know what he's done to them. I don't know. But for whatever reason,
they weren't there. It doesn't bother me. Because guess where I'm at? I'm here.
Right. I'm going to eat. I don't work. If I go somewhere, Ocho, I'll be, to God,
honest truth. I don't worry about who's not there. I concern myself with who's here.
Okay. May I invite me in? Okay. I've been invited to places.
ain't nobody know
I ain't take no pictures
I ain't tell nobody
if they didn't want
if they didn't want people to know
they'd have told
who they wanted to know
and they'd have been there
it was mentioned
they didn't mention nothing about me
because I slept in
and slept out the back door
but there's some
bulljad chat
I don't care
y'all can't convince me
that this is this
oh he should oh you know
that man just tell it
No, this man has got no business telling what that man got going on his house.
I don't care if he had four dogs sitting at the table.
That's his table, and he invited your ass in.
Yeah, we should know that, honestly.
We should know anything about that at all.
That's personal information.
It's personal.
And then, also, and to make you, guess what he did?
What?
And at that time, baby future was back.
Oh, who.
Now you talk about the baby, too?
They're kids.
For the most part, you get kids.
They're going to be a certain, you know, they don't want to sit down.
Okay, be quiet.
Eat your food.
Okay, that's a part of having a kid.
Right.
Maybe he doesn't have kids.
He doesn't understand.
They're all bad.
They're all bad.
Ocho, I promise you.
For the most part, the more money you have,
the more likely when you have an event
is going to be catered.
Right.
That's just the way it is.
Yes.
Now, some people, hey, some people,
their mom or their grandma say,
baby, I want to cook.
Mm-hmm.
Okay.
Granted, you ain't got to.
No, baby, I want to do it.
Right.
I know if I had something big for my family,
oh, it's getting catered.
I ain't cooking nothing.
As a matter of fact,
the only time the oven is the store
going to be turned on a dude.
We eat some ish.
Honestly, you know,
the women normally do all the cooking, huh?
But I'm just saying, Ocho.
Oh, in general.
Look, and he talked,
it was a mansion, it wasn't nobody there.
It should have been one minus one.
Your ass shouldn't have been there.
Yeah.
Cere, ain't nobody ask you that.
Oh, that's crazy.
I don't know why.
Why?
That's messed up.
I just don't get it.
Why would he do that, Ocho?
I don't know.
The man invited you.
Okay, let me ask you a question.
Why you didn't take your podcast to your family?
Since we're talking about family, where was your family?
Obviously, this was on a podcast.
In order to do a podcast, you have to have stories.
wasn't on no podcast when his ass was in Russell Wilson
house. So he's talking about Russ
family wasn't there. Where was
his family? Right.
You in the NFL, so clearly
you got money. Why didn't you
find your family in?
You worried about whatever.
And he's sponsored by airline.
Why you caught that man's pockets?
And hell they got to do with anything.
I still want to know
where was your family
your mom your dad
your aunties your uncles
your family your brothers where were they
I don't know
you talk about what Russell didn't have it
he is
yeah he said
hey bro I mean so he invited you to his house
so clearly they thought you were going to be alone
yeah and we thought you was cool
you probably didn't have family to go to
for Thanksgiving and we welcome
move with open arms.
I spend a media of Thanksgiving by myself
when I was in Denver Ocho.
Right.
I go to the 7-Eleven,
get them sandwich that you put in the microwave
and take my black ass home.
I'm cool with it.
Call it a day, huh?
I call it a day.
One time,
I'm trying to think,
who house did I went to?
I think maybe Burns.
I think Burns was the only place.
Maybe.
I think Monica.
I think Reggie,
who was a tight end in Denver.
I think Monica cooked one year
and I went over there
but for the most part
don't show
I was by myself
and I was cool with that
and they
my teammates would invite me
hey shop
I know you're gonna be by yourself
you want to come over man
I'll let you know
you'll never go
be true
I don't go
I don't go to people house
the one time I did
I did go to somebody house
and I had to tell you about it
that said to be a question
but I would never
go to somebody house
and talk about what
wasn't there.
Man, you thought enough of me
to invite me into your place.
And then I'm going to go get a podcast
and try to dump on you?
Yeah, that's crazy.
And then I'm going to dump on your son?
Talking about, oh, he was bad?
That's crazy.
You're looking for that moment.
I just hate that, man.
I hate that.
Russ don't bother nobody.
You could like or dislike,
but he don't really,
He don't bother nobody.
He ain't out there talking about nobody.
The man found somebody that made him happy.
At the end of the day, he and Sierra, I'm on the outside, Ocho, just like everybody else.
But it seems like they have a really good marriage.
Yeah, they have ups and down.
Yeah, they have disagreements.
That's what a marriage is.
Marriage is work.
It's just like, you don't get the job, Ocho.
It's like, okay, that's it.
No, you have to work.
A marriage, you get into a relationship.
Everything is chummy, but you have to work every day.
Yeah.
And I get that.
But for people to try to take a shot.
in the man in his house,
if you want to say,
you see me walking down the street
and you say that man,
he ain't speak to me.
You can say, you know what,
he ain't,
and I don't,
I'm not, you know,
I'm on the plane,
Ocho, I got my headset on
and people trying to talk
and I've just,
for this very reason.
You see, Ocho?
Mm-hmm.
You see?
Yeah.
You start carrying on conversation.
Yeah, I talked to him.
Oh, he told me all this stuff.
I talked to him for hours.
You see how you,
now you see why, Ocho.
Now you see why.
Yeah.
I just I've never been able to do that
anything I do
it always stays in house
yes it should
it always stays in house
and there is definitely
it's definitely not for the public
that's a no no
that's a no
oh you go somebody house
I ain't even hey
don't ask me I don't know
man what was such and such stay
I don't even know man
I was just a
is there yesterday.
Oh, man.
You don't give up nobody
intel like that, man.
The man invited you in.
If somebody is nice enough
to invite you in,
the last thing you do
is to try to paint them
in a negative light.
Yeah.
And what's the point?
What's the point?
I don't know.
There's nothing to gain.
Maybe they wanted to celebrate
on their own.
Maybe they didn't want to fly away
Seattle, Seattle. Where's Russ
is from Virginia, right? He's from
the East Coast, didn't he? Maybe
they didn't want to fly away to Seattle to take a
six-hour playing ride. Right.
Cincinnati?
Yeah, I thought, yeah.
Yeah, I don't
get it, man. I am so, so.
I was, man, I was listening to this
old show, and the more he
talked, and it wasn't, he
wasn't talking about me. The more he
talk, it's like my grandma's to say, boy, the more you talk, the matter I get.
Mm-hmm.
I mean, it just lets you...
Oh, Joe, Bay, I swear.
That's crazy.
How you go to somebody's house?
Man, you know who house I was at yesterday?
I wouldn't even let that information out.
Thank you.
You know, nobody did it.
Let alone on the show.
No, come on now.
Oh, Lord, have mercy.
Man, Russ, I am so sorry.
All in that, Russ, a handful of times.
I met him in his rookie season.
Had a great conversation with him.
You can tell that he was serious about football,
asked a bunch of questions.
Man, how do you win the Super Bowl?
What was John Elway like?
What did y'all do?
You know, y'all closed.
What was y'all this?
You know, asked a bunch of questions.
Yeah.
Yeah, we, as a matter of fact,
It was at the Super Bowl in New Orleans
when the 49ers
played the Ravens.
That was his rookie season.
Oh, where everything went out.
Remember the lights went out?
The lights went out, yeah.
That's where it was.
Man, Russ, I'm sorry, bro.
I'm sorry.
Tegging, he took it.
These guys getting the way they talk
real house husbands
yeah
but the housewives
they know
the real house husbands
yeah
damn
oh Joe the eagles are ruining the lives
the love lives
in the city of Philadelphia
look at this Snapchat
okay so you know
this is going to sound absolutely crazy
but I was noticing
since we started talking daily and went on our date,
the Eagles have been eating in the bed.
Well, I don't want you to hate me or block me,
but I think maybe we need to not talk until the season is over.
Damn.
I like a lot.
I like you a lot.
Don't take this as visible.
Just need to turn our look around for the birds,
and I think you'd understand that too.
So he wanted to break up.
up until the season over?
At least to the season over.
Ocho, I'm superstitious, too.
Very superstitious.
But that's crazy work.
Do you even ask that?
Even have the audacity.
I mean, football is serious.
But not that serious.
It is.
I'm calling on.
Listen, me, we need to take a break.
We need to talk.
My priority right now is football.
Once the season end,
you know, then, you know, we can get back together.
That's what he said, oh, Cho.
He said, look, I don't want to break up with you.
I mean, but I just think we need to pause this thing.
Okay, how about we put this relationship on Layaway?
Pause and there's a breakup, huh?
Pausing is a breakup.
Oh, Joe, I'm putting this relationship on Layaway
until after the season over, then I come back and get it.
You know, your grandma and mama don't put stuff on Layaway.
When you put stuff on Layaway, can you get it right there?
No, you put it on there and you will come back and get it at a later day and time.
Listen, she must be desperate.
She must be deft if she's going to wait
Definitely desperate
Anybody got time to pay them games
Breakup space
Oh so let me get the straight
Let me get the straight
I guarantee your
Cambodia
If Cambodia said, oh, I knew you to wait
I knew you to wait two weeks
Man, oh
Man
Hey
I ain't waiting two weeks
Nothing I wait a week
I wait a week
You are on Cambodia
Man, look here
Hey, anything past a week
Man, you might well chalk it up
Hey, I'm going to pull a Trevor barking on you
Man, you all saw Ocho was in that fight
Yeah, I'm not, look, I'm superstitious, Ocho.
Yeah, I'm not.
go down, look, when I'm home,
in Atlanta, I'm in the basement.
Don't call me.
Don't text me.
I don't want nothing to eat.
I don't want nothing.
Right.
Because if anything happened,
if anything happens,
that wasn't happening before,
if you called me or you come,
I locked the door.
Yeah, no.
And if my team start losing, I'll take the dogs upstairs.
No, y'all bad luck.
Everybody got to go, huh?
Yep.
Yep.
So I understand.
I understand.
So I guess that means, oh, he ain't going to be able to use these sparks until after the season.
Man, that's almost a month and a half.
I ain't got time for that.
Man, you go, hey, he going to let the sparks go.
Mm-mm, I ain't got time for that.
No, sir.
You don't order some too, ain't it?
Huh?
You don't, how am I?
I mean, you don't order something too, ain't it?
How you know?
I can see your order.
It's fine, boy.
Well, that's your call it the right name.
That's the right name for them.
Yes, sir.
Because you ever wonder how they come to a, how they come to a, man, how do they come to that?
How did they come upon that name?
They always got to think of a name that's going to be catchy.
They always got to think a name that's catchy that goes along with the product itself.
And it makes sense.
Get you that spark.
Some of the biggest fires started by a spark.
Some of the biggest brush fires.
I like it.
I like it.
I'm sorry, bro.
But, uh, I wish I knew it was.
I had them give me, send me your sparks.
You ain't using them.
And she's going to be gone.
He's going to be mad because the season going to end.
And if his team doesn't make it, the playoffs.
All that for nothing, huh, Ojo?
But nothing.
But nothing.
especially if it's a girl
that doesn't understand football
she's not a sports fan
and you think you're going to pull that off
and that's your priority
man
please
you don't think that's going to happen
mm-mm
man
hey
Ocho people take that stuff serious
man they take sporting events
are serious
they do they do I mean
I think I think they take
NFL football and college football
I think it's that I think NFL college
I think those are like
people just like lose their damn minds
Look
college basketball don't get
Don't get fun until March madness
Right
The NBA wants to playoff start
But because every game in football
is so important in college
And the NFL
Every game is heightened
Because you don't play that many
You play in 82 NFL games
You play in 162 basketball
baseball games
I mean
you play one basketball game
that's five NFL games
that's 10
I'll be basically nine now
baseball games
so you understand
the importance of every game
and then once you get to the playoffs
every game is a game seven
so guys take that face man please
yeah you got you got one shot
one shot
man I'm sorry bro
I hopefully the eagle can turn it around
and I just hope when they turn it around
you know she is around
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Absolutely.
Absolutely.
Oh, elephant truck.
Come out sooner or later.
Woo!
Ha!
Breaking news, Ocho.
Lane Kiffin.
to LSU
I told you
We already knew that though
That ain't really breaking news
I told you what he was gonna do yesterday
The question now, Ocho
Because we knew that would look
The only holdup was
He really wanted to go to LSU
But he wanted to coach his team
He wanted to start what he finished
He wanted, excuse me, backwards
He wanted to finish what he started
The question is
Will the President allow
I think that's the president's call
Or an athletic director
The chancellor.
So that will be, will they allow him to do that?
I would hope so.
I would hope so.
I'm curious.
I mean, he might be petty and say no.
Well, he put it, uh, uh, he tried.
He tried.
it's just it's just hard it's just hard you know i mean that that that kind of money oh cho
you're talking about 14 million a year for what's 12 a year 12th so that's 84 million dollars
man i thought well the quick look 84 million dollars do i believe old miss could imagine that yes
do i believe old miss can get the same level of talent at lSU i do not no i do not and that's what
it comes down to, Ocho.
Yes.
Recruiting will become much easier being an LSU.
Even though you did a good job at Ole Miss,
it'd be much easier.
Man.
O'Lane.
That puts him behind only Kirby.
Because Kirby's making 13.
Kirby's making like 13 a year, 13-150 or 13-250 a year.
Mm, damn.
Oh, I.
Okay.
LSU, the boot.
But Ohio ain't got no state income tax.
LSU, what's a Louisiana state income tax?
Oh, three day, man.
You can live with that.
Three percent?
Nice.
That's nice.
It ain't California, New York, or New Jersey.
All right, Ocho, it's time to play a fade, presented by prize picks.
We got football tomorrow.
We got football tomorrow.
We got football tomorrow.
Who they?
Brock Purdy, less than 198 yards.
You know what?
I'm going under.
With that weather.
Oh, absolutely.
Not just hell with that defense, shit.
Oh, my bad.
Close enough.
I agree.
I think he's going under also.
Trey McBride, more than seven receptions.
Who they play?
Arizona.
They play in, uh,
In Tampa?
What's the weather?
Eighty-one.
Oh, yeah, he's getting seven.
It's going to be hot.
Yep.
Jacoby Myers, 3.5 receptions.
He's in Jacksonville now, right?
Who did you, who did Jags play?
Jacksville.
No, I don't think you're getting four receptions, though, Joe.
No.
You think you're getting four receptions, though, Cho?
Four receptions?
I don't think so.
Mm-mm.
Mm-mm.
Yeah, I'm going to go less.
Jackson, Smith, and Jigba, J.S.N, more than 0.5 rush or receiving touchdowns.
Who they play?
It don't matter who they play.
The answer is yes.
Oh, yeah, he's good.
He's going to light them up.
Yeah, he'll get a touchdown.
He'll get a touchdown.
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All right, Ocho, time for our final segment of the evening.
Now it's time for Q and A.
Q and A.
And Hid and Willie say, let's all play a drinking game
when Ocho says, God, we all drink.
We should all be drunk before the first segment.
You've got to pull drink through to let everyone know.
I like that one.
You don't drink.
Christian Phil says people who pick the game as better rivalry
than the Iron Bowl quit watching college football.
and smack what you see in the mirror
people get killed over the results
I think it's
close between the Iron Bowl
and Ohio State and Michigan
I understand Texas
Texanian
Right
What is it? Minnesota Wisconsin
Have
54% say Ohio State Michigan
38% say Alabama
Auburn
Um
I don't think that's the oldest one though
There's someone been playing longer than that
Probably Harvard and Yale
100 plus
Damn
What
Been playing since 1873
Jesus Christ
Oh
You're about Harvard and Yale?
No, Yale Princeton
been playing college football
Oh, since now 1873?
Yeah, 1873
and Harvard Yale since 1875.
Boy, that's a long time.
Hell, yeah.
Master C, I bet Kirby
was praying for Auburn to win.
Probably, but you know, at this point in time,
I'm in.
And, you know, that's basically a home game.
for them. Now, that's not that far
of a drive. That's like, what,
90 from Birmingham.
It's probably about 90 minutes, less than two hours,
from Birmingham up to
Georgia Dome. I mean, Georgia Dome.
Mercedes Ben Dome. Mercedes-Benz.
But it's not bad at all.
Christian Field says,
people from Ohio and Michigan have
the Lions in Cleveland or Cincinnati.
If OSU and me are bad,
we all get the, it's Iron Bowl
and maybe USFL. You're right.
ain't nothing going on in Alabama
but bad
there ain't no pro sports
there ain't nothing
that's it
they have a USFL team
Ocho but you know Birmingham
that's right
the Alabama team
damn
but yeah
you got the lions
hold on
they got the Cavaliers
Michigan got
the pistons
they got
Detroit Tigers
they got Cincinnati Reds
they got the Cleveland
an Indians in Alabama.
That's it.
We need a basketball team.
Maybe you get the bananas, Savannah bananas to come down.
Oh, wait.
What that's that?
That's out there?
Savannah, Georgia.
Okay.
Hey, they be cutting, boy.
They do.
They be cutting.
Be turning backflip.
Dude, catch the ball.
Turn the backflip.
Why he catching the ball?
Yeah, they'd be cutting.
Jay J.J. Johnson, I love this show.
On a personal, Ocho.
It's been almost two years, man.
Pay me my money before I have to do something to you.
$200.
You got my DM.
Who I owe $200?
Man, I owe nobody no damn $2.00.
Yeah, you're all the man, $200, oh, Cho.
Now, you know how, you know how when St. Louis rolled up on a little man.
But St. Louis, hey.
And when Brooklyn never had to do something bad to him, he put a cigarette butt out on his nose, now.
Do something to make me feel better.
$200, but I don't remember that.
Galatoscope.
G5, JMU, James Madison University, I guess.
Tulane, North Texas, the biggest Duke fans in the world
come from the ACC Conference Championship.
What that mean?
I guess Duke, that's who Duke beat some of them teams.
Jimmy Harney, my spouse and I can never seem to move forward,
always having the same problems
and we don't know what to do at America.
Call it quits after 14 years or what?
Who, 14?
What seems to be the issue?
Yes.
Hold on.
Let me get comfortable.
You keep saying you keep having the same problems.
What are the problems?
Are the problems financial?
Are the problems, you know, personal?
Right.
What's the issue?
Right.
It's hard to help when we have better context
and what the problem is.
Yeah.
um well look man 14 years a long time to put in something look i mean that's
sometimes ocho there comes a time no matter you know you put 10 years 15 20 years right there's
just irreconcilable differences yeah and we just get to a point ohcho we can't move
move forward together right they're gonna they're gonna become that time but jimmy make sure you've
exhausted every avenue every last one
Because that green grass, somebody fertilized and then watered it.
Hmm.
And don't be, don't, hey, sometimes the greenest grass is field turf.
Ooh, that's a good one on.
God damn.
It ain't real, Jimmy.
So I'm just saying, just be careful.
Just make sure that you've done everything that you possibly could.
And sometimes you might be at a point, Jimmy, that you cannot go on.
That ship, hey, is run ashore.
but exhausts every opportunity, Jimmy.
Every last one,
because there ain't nothing outside.
Trigger the 9059 trigger tie here.
I go by tie on Kenocho.
I feel good.
My tides and my past 10 and 2.
I think if we hit on all cylinders,
we're the best in the nation.
What's y'all take?
Now, I don't think the tide
the best in the nation.
No.
No.
I think there are five or 16
that could easily, easily,
beat Alabama.
Now, the past
or something different.
The past looked good.
Yeah.
They're very well coached.
Defense is going to be
where they're supposed to be.
They've done a great job of protecting
the football thus far,
and if they can continue to do that,
they can run the football with Henderson.
Now, I don't know when
Stevenson's coming back
because he's on our, isn't it?
But, Ty, look,
The Patriots are doing good.
The Patriots are doing good.
They play really, really well.
They still got a couple of big tests coming up.
They got Buffalo again in their building.
They went to Buffalo beat them.
Yeah.
Okay.
So now they're going to have a two-headed monster, a guy that can run with power.
The other guy that can hit his head on the goalpost from anywhere on the field,
they're going to be a tough out.
Barron the Gash, hey, Ocho, Ronaldo, would be 41 at the World Cup.
How well do you think he'll play?
play.
Oh, and that's a good question.
Based on how he's playing so far, I think he's going to play well.
He can't play well.
Rinaldo wants to represent his country and that team.
And very well, the one thing he's missing is that World Cup.
Yeah.
He's missing that world cup.
And what you called got here last time?
Yeah, messy.
Yeah.
But that was a good one, Ocho.
That game was awesome.
The French dude, what's the dude name?
Mbapapé.
Inbape.
Yeah, that was a very good game.
Very good game.
It's going to be a tough task, though, for Portugal, though.
It's going to be tough.
Nate Cubs,
you're the gold enough to say Randy over Rice.
Hold on.
No, I never say Randy over Rice.
Ocho, oh, and Ocho, you ain't no dolphin,
Cuzz.
I believe, Aqua and Orange.
He ain't, Nate, he ain't no, he ain't no dolphin.
fan. He bleed
orange and black
with a little white sprinkled in
and red,
silver, and blue.
And I've been a Dolphin fans
in 1968.
Oh, no, no, no, no.
I ain't in those guys category.
I'm good. I did
what I was supposed to do. I ain't
even go tight in. I ain't in for the hole, y'all.
But I did okay.
I don't feel
I left anything on the field.
I ain't leave no crumbs, Ocho.
At all.
Barry game, Ocho, you were asked
about your camera last night
and you mocked them.
They ain't mean nothing bad by it.
They probably wonder why Unks spent so much time
looking like at Elgado
and not Ocho.
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Ha ha ha.
Hey, that's funny.
Now, that, that was funny.
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He caught three touchdowns tonight.
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Alabama is headed to the SEC Championship thanks to a very hard fault,
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The number one Buckeyes remain unbeaten.
Belface, Indiana, also unbeaten in the Big Ten, excuse me,
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the Ole Miss Rebbed in the college football playoffs
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