Club Shay Shay - Nightcap Hour 2: Lane Kiffin’s DECISION is LOOMING + Coach Prime’s TIME is TICKING in Colorado + Shedeur LOOKS to KEEP MOMENTUM vs 49ers + Unc & Ocho BLAST Trevone Boykin for leaking Russell Wilson’s BUSINESS

Episode Date: November 30, 2025

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to Oklahoma beats LSU to keep their college football playoff hopes alive, Lane Kiffin is still making a decision on whether he takes the L...SU job, and Shilo Sanders goes viral for trolling Shedeur over the holidays and much more! 0:00 - Oklahoma beats LSU3:10 - Still waiting on Lane Kiffin’s decision6:40 - Shilo trolled Shedeur over the holidays9:30 - Browns/Shedeur Sanders19:30 - Jaxson Dart will start against Patriots27:05 - Trevone Boykin says Thanksgiving at Russell Wilson house was weird42:10 - Eagles ruining Philly love lives49:40 - Lane Kiffin to LSU52:30 - Play or Fade54:35 - Q & Aaayyyy (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:29 Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Okay. Still waiting on Lane Kiffin decision. Oh, number eight, Oklahoma beat LSU 1713. The sooner seal off the playoff spot with a comeback win over LSU. John Mateer threw a 58-yard touchdown pass Isaiah Santanaga.
Starting point is 00:02:53 How you say his last name? Santanaga. I know his dad was like a decathleted or something at an LSU. So with 416 left to overcome a three interception game, the sooner's are in position to host a first round game after winning four straight. Hey, this was the defensive game.
Starting point is 00:03:18 Yeah, but I like the way LSU played, man. Hey, look, they got talent. I don't know if they just got tired of Brian Kelly his message wasn't resonating Right The guys didn't like you me I don't know what transpired But to play on the road
Starting point is 00:03:33 To play as hard as they played on Joe Yeah Yeah And they say hell They fight they fighting They were fighting Most of the time Especially in a situation like that
Starting point is 00:03:44 You know your head coach Your head coach is fired He's gone Sometimes you got to worry about your players Giving up on you Yep You got to worry about your players giving up on you.
Starting point is 00:03:55 Well, they fought well today, man. It's a good defense's the game. Yeah, with three toners, with three tone of us, hell, Oklahoma, lucky. Barry. Well, look, if they get, if LSU has some, some, LSU got to get a quarterback. Now, the one thing Lane Kippen can do, Lane Kiff can get a quarterback with that level of talent
Starting point is 00:04:13 that's on that roster. Yeah. And the way they can recruit, and what they promised now, allegedly, they promised him somewhere $20, $25 million roster overhaul. oh you can go get some five you a somebody that's in the portal no Elaine Kiffin the amount of players that he sent to the NFL now back to back what 10 11 win seasons right going to make get a college for a playoff
Starting point is 00:04:36 birth yeah he's gonna he gonna get the boys in there now he gonna get the boys in there yeah 14 million but they said uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh ls uh excuse me the old miss would be willing to match anything to LSU as far as pay wise. And then it's not like, hey, if you leave, what is that?
Starting point is 00:05:06 What part of Mississippi? It's not Starkville. That's where Mississippi State is. Oxford. It's not like, they make it seem like you, what is Malibu? I mean, Baton Rouge is a college town just like Oxford is. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:21 So, man, who on the to live in Oxford. The same people that want to live in Baton Rouge? Or as they say, Baton Rouge. Baton Rouge. So, we're still waiting
Starting point is 00:05:36 on the decision, Ocho, from Lane Kiffin. According to a new report from Matt Muscana, Lane wants the LSU job and to coach the team in the college football playoff. O'Miss is not going to allow him to do that, but doesn't want to sabotage their best season
Starting point is 00:05:51 in 60 years. Keith Carter gets paid to make tough decision. So he's going to have to make one, don't you? What you're going to do? You're going to let him coach knowing that he's leaving? Or you say, nah, go and get the stepping, bro. I don't understand. Let him finish a job.
Starting point is 00:06:08 Let him finish what he started. Once the season ends, he should be allowed to go where he wants to. But don't, don't say, okay, if you're going to LSU, you know, you can't coach the final game. I mean, to me, that, to me, that's like, let him go. Let me go out on the shield. How many times if coaches left before the season was over? All the time.
Starting point is 00:06:29 What's their season ended? They don't coach the bowl game. Didn't Lincoln Riley do that? Didn't Brian Kelly do that? Yeah, I'm not sure. So what are we saying now? Now, Coach Saber, y'all know that thing about Coach Saber. But Coach Sabre and fired Lane Kiffin because he said he couldn't be the OC.
Starting point is 00:06:47 He was focusing too much on being the head coach at FAAU than being the office of coordinator in Alabama. And he let him go. I don't know. I mean, I wouldn't be that. Because here's the thing. If it's a situation because we've seen Ocho, star players get hurt, X, Y, Z happen.
Starting point is 00:07:12 Are they still going to be in the college football playoff knowing that Lane is gone? That's a good way to look at it. I mean, Trinidad Chambers, is playing unbelievable. I got Kouan Lacey is running unbelievable. They got a good team.
Starting point is 00:07:29 Now they're going to put points on the board. Mm-hmm. You know what's funny when I think about it too? The players that recruited, the players that he recruited or went to Ole Miss, and if he does leave the LSU, I'm sure they're probably going to hit the portal
Starting point is 00:07:41 and follow them. They might. Because, hey, does he have any eligibility left? Champlain. Because if he go to open, if he go to that, I know if he do what
Starting point is 00:07:55 Caleb Williams did remember Caleb Williams in Oklahoma and when Lincoln Riley went to USC Caleb William went with him yeah see that's not they not that's exactly what oh
Starting point is 00:08:13 so yeah because I know what you're trying to do that too pavia well pavia we're probably trying to do. He's trying to get another eligibility. Oh, yeah, okay, okay. With that COVID season, huh?
Starting point is 00:08:29 Right? Yeah. Yeah. Coach Prime spoke after Colorado finished the season three and nine. This is what time had to say after the game, won't you? Okay.
Starting point is 00:08:38 When I win, I don't mind a clap. When I lose, I don't mind a bull. I played this game. I know this game like the back of my hand, and I love this game, and I love all the ups and downs and outs about it. And I'm built for every last bit of it. but if anybody's built to reconcile and to get this back on course as me,
Starting point is 00:08:57 and I will do it if it's the last thing I do on earth. Trust me when I tell you. This was the last supper. God bless. I like it. I don't mind having praise when I do good, but I don't mind getting blue. The forces shaping the world's economies and financial markets can be hard to spot. Even though they are such a powerful player,
Starting point is 00:09:22 finance, you wouldn't really know that you are interacting with them. And even harder to understand. Donald Trump's trade war, 2.0, is only accelerating the process of de-dollarization, which in a way is jargon for people turning away from the dollar. That is where the big take from Bloomberg podcast comes in, to connect the dots. How unusual is a deal like this? Unprecedented. Every weekday afternoon, we dive deep into one big global business story.
Starting point is 00:09:51 The biggest story of the reaction of the oil market to the conflict in the Middle East is one of what has not happened. Katie, you told me that ETFs are your favorite thing. They are. Explain that. Why is that the case? And unpack what it means for you. Our breakfast foods are consistent consumer staples, and so they sort of become outsized indicators of inflation. Listen to the big take from Bloomberg News every weekday afternoon on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey there, Dr. Jesse Mills here.
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Starting point is 00:13:56 on IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. When I do bad, that's what you expect. When you get in the coaching, you already know. You already, every once in a while, it's not often, Ocho, that your first job is your last job. Because there's a good chance.
Starting point is 00:14:14 You're going to be like a Pentecost minister. Every seven years, your ass getting shipped somewhere else. Or if you're in the military, you might be, you might start off at Fort Stewart or Hunter or, you know, Fort Carson or Fort Dig, Fort Bride. You might start there. But you ain't ending up there. You understand that. You understand when you're in the military, the friend that you had in the first grade, you probably not going to have them in the fourth or fifth grade, oh, Joe. And the ones you have in the fifth grade, when the time you're a freshman, they're going to be just a memory.
Starting point is 00:14:46 That's how it worked. And when you're a coach, you already know. Hey, baby, don't unpack them bags. Don't you unpack the bags. That's crazy how that works, though. It's crazy how it works to know that if things don't go well in a two or three years span, there's a chance that you might have to uproop your family again.
Starting point is 00:15:08 Yeah. And again, I mean, just, just, you know, I change my mind. You don't have to coach. I just thought about that. You got to tell me. Yeah, I want to think about everything. else that comes along with that. Mm-mm.
Starting point is 00:15:21 Mm-mm. Hell no. They lose by the score 2414 to K-State. Salter held 14 to 25, 172 yards, and an interception. They ran the ball 47 times for 151 yards. They just got to get more talent. That's it. That's what the lane will be able to pull that off.
Starting point is 00:15:56 Hey, a donkey is not winning the Kentucky Derby. I don't care who his trainer is. Bob Baffer, Shig McGahey, D. Wayne Lucas, rest their soul, doesn't matter. I got to use that. It doesn't matter. And it doesn't matter if Ron Turcourt, rest your soul, he was on the back of secretariat. I could have been on the back of secretary. and our horse is going to win all three races.
Starting point is 00:16:20 That chestnut coat was that bad. Yeah. Sometimes, Ocho, it don't even matter about you. Secretary was just that bad. So when you got, sometimes you just have to, like, not get in the way, but Coach Prime is going to have to build this thing up. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:46 He might have to do less of the portal. Because he had to, one of the receivers, the top receivers in the country at Arizona State was at Colorado. He left before time got there. Jordan. What's the Arizona State receiver? Tyson, Jordan. Arizona State.
Starting point is 00:17:06 Jordan Tyson. He wore number zero, right? Is that the one? He wore number zero, I think, if I'm not mistaken. I can remember. I think I know who you're talking about. But he's like he rated He rated high
Starting point is 00:17:17 Like that, huh? Mm-hmm Yeah, zero, yeah Yeah, that's him Yeah, he's nice He nice Yeah, he's nice Yeah, he's nice
Starting point is 00:17:26 But he's gonna have to get it fixed This year, Ocho Because I think I think The natives are gonna get restless Yeah Because he said he was coming with Louis He said, you're bringing my luggage
Starting point is 00:17:40 Now, look The likelihood of you You're not, the likelihood of you find another Travis, Travis Hunter? That ain't happening. I mean, it just goes to show you the impact that two players can have. Mm-hmm. Your quarterback and a dual threat. But he's going to have to get it together this year.
Starting point is 00:17:58 2026 is going to have to be a eight-win, eight-win season. Right. Mm, that's crazy. Because you would have had enough time. I get the first year, but this would be his fourth year. You would have had time to get a couple of, recruiting classes in these are your guys now right they're no longer belong i don't know who the coach was before him who the coach before he was derail i know they won one game
Starting point is 00:18:29 before pram got there and college football is crazy man especially with the nil it it evens the playing field and most of the top schools that have the money and have the revenue He was in devil with the coach. They take advantage of it. They take advantage of that NIL, man. Ocho, speaking of Sanders' family, Shiloh, was hell on Shador during Thanksgiving. Let's take a listen to what Shiloh shenanigans.
Starting point is 00:18:58 Look at him studying his plays and whatnot before his big game. What a good boy. Studying your place so close to Fancy, don't get math. Safansky, I even study my place on Thanksgiving. If we own it, we don't have to pay for it. We own it. Well, ask this guy right here. You can start a phone guy for the Cleveland Brown.
Starting point is 00:19:19 You're talking about me. That was only one week. All right, God is great. Thank you for letting Shador start finally. We appreciate it. Please help him this Sunday. Go for 500 passing yards. So both is weird.
Starting point is 00:19:37 The win. We want your passing yards. Just the win. Yeah. Running some touchdowns. Just two. The win. Yeah, so you can win and get my parlays.
Starting point is 00:19:48 Frank, I'm just flying. I don't bet on this. God, thank you for everything. Thank you for allowing my mom to cook today and really put her elbow in collard greens today because they're really good and they look great. Lord, please allow Shador to do his best so he could pull some strings and give me on the Browns too.
Starting point is 00:20:05 And she's making them 21 available somehow. But what is this award? They're the franchise man, 21 gold, man. Well, never mind, 28 will do. Thank you very much, Lord. And Jesus name, amen. I like that. Hey, that's funny, man.
Starting point is 00:20:21 That's funny. Listen, that's what having a brother is about, man. That's what having a brother about. They're going to make fun of you. Obviously, I have two brothers myself, Sam and Chauncey, and it's been like that all the time. It's been like that all the time. We'll make fun, but you wasn't going to do that at the dinner table
Starting point is 00:20:37 with somebody praying. That's for sure. not the old people I know your grandma wouldn't because I know Mary Porter wasn't going for that Oh no no no no It's different times It's different times right now
Starting point is 00:20:48 We're in totally different time When the prayer is going on You know it's silent That that prayer they mean business now And don't think about that And you had to have your eyes closed Oh yeah hold on You are you looking around if you want to
Starting point is 00:21:02 Listen Hey my family prayer When it used to be When it felt like Thanksgiving Back in the day when everybody meet that big mama house my auntie Arenner I had an aunt
Starting point is 00:21:16 that was a preacher and she would say to prayer oh my God I'm talking about she gave you an extended prayer but it was an extended prayer with a banana clip on it but it was a it was fire it was fire she gets
Starting point is 00:21:34 she gets to talk about everybody everything with everybody Would everybody need and ask, oh, man, it was beautiful. It was beautiful. I missed those days, man. Thanksgiving, and I could just be honest. Thanksgiving hadn't been the same. And damn near, man, what, maybe 15, damn near 20 years.
Starting point is 00:21:53 Yeah. We, but, oh, you, that tradition and ain't. I mean, I really knew once my grandmother passed, it wasn't going to be the same. Yeah. We weren't going to get together like that. Yeah, you know, you know what I don't like to? What's that? the way our grandmothers and grandfathers kept the family
Starting point is 00:22:12 together tight-knit kept it together holidays everybody together nowadays like right now during the time now the only time you see everybody is where it's a funeral yep that's the only time everybody get together you ain't lying no joe i hate that you ain't wrong when you're right But, uh, Adam Schafter is reporting that the Browns are open to giving Shadour an extended look for the rest of the season. But much of that decision will be dictated by how he plays starting Sunday.
Starting point is 00:22:50 35 mile an hour wind. It's supposed to be a snowstorm, but okay, yeah, I get it. Okay, let me pretty show you. According to Shepton, the Browns are not worried about how much Sunday's weather might affect Sanders. It is expected to be cold with snow and wind, typical Cleveland conditions in late November. As Stefansky said, he played. in Colorado, and that's a lot of win, and you're going to get, you're going to get all
Starting point is 00:23:14 sorts of weather, so he's good to go. Okay, if I'm sure do, I say, you know what, this week, let go Shadoor, let, let a Dillon start. I get next week in the end of, hey, I think he's going to be all right on. As regards to the conditions, regards to the elements, he's going to have to adapt. The running game is going to have to be. be what it is, if it's as bad as they say it's going to be. Running game got to be on point.
Starting point is 00:23:44 Pick your poison, pick your spots when you have to throw the ball and just make the right decision with it and don't turn the ball over. Give your team a chance because the defense is really good. That's all it comes down to. With that defense on show, they're going to be in the game.
Starting point is 00:23:58 Absolutely. Miles Garrett, Denzel Ward, they got players that can make plays. So as long as you don't turn it over, put your defense in harm's way by creating short fields, you'll be fine. Make them go, hey, you know, a throwaway is okay. Punning the football is not bad
Starting point is 00:24:16 in conditions like this. You have to understand that. If you're in field goal range, let's stay in field goal range. Let's not retreat, bubble back, bow, and give up ground, take a sack. We can't do that. The points are going to be at a premium in the game like this. This ain't going to be no 30, no 31, 28 ball game, mocho. This ain't that type of game. Let somebody turn it over and you're getting picked,
Starting point is 00:24:38 and scooping scores. Right. But driving the football, if the weather's going to be as bad as what they indicate that they think it will be, right. You ain't getting that.
Starting point is 00:24:46 Uh-uh. No. No. No. So it's going to be very, very interesting. Look, it's, uh, almost one o'clock. Yeah, he had to bed asleep. Who that?
Starting point is 00:25:00 Shador. Oh, yeah. He probably thinking, Lord, please let the sun come out tomorrow. Ooh. Just let the sun come out. I don't care how cold it is. I prefer it to be 40.
Starting point is 00:25:11 Just let it be 40 degrees with the sun out. I can't wait. I can't wait for tomorrow, boy. I don't really ask for much. I know that might be a little excessive. Ask you to change the weather. Could you just change the weather when we got the ball, sunny, when they got it, blizzard.
Starting point is 00:25:31 I'm trying to think who play tomorrow. Huh? They played 49ers. No, I know. trying to say, no, I know they played it for you. I'm trying to think about who plays tomorrow, like good games, like good matchups. Oh, oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:25:46 Oh, Buffalo, you're talking about like... Four o'clock. Four o'clock. That's a good one. Buffalo and the Steelers. Oh, yeah, yeah. But you know, Buffalo is both of their tackles. Oh, yeah, Dionne Dawkins, he's hurt. Yeah, and the right tackle got his feelings hurt because the Texas was running right by it. Oh.
Starting point is 00:26:06 He probably had a little neck. Colts. Texan Colts. Daniel Jones, he got a, I saw him try to get out of the pocket. Yeah. Man, he was hobbling, Ocho.
Starting point is 00:26:18 Something wrong with his giddy up. Oh, you saw that? Yeah, I saw that. Yeah. I think, let's see, he got a crack fibula. Oh, man. A little crack fibula.
Starting point is 00:26:28 They'll shoot him up. He won't feel it. I don't really know where you can shoot it up at, Ocho. They should give him some tortoise. Get him some tortoise. all. That's what I meant. But he did, I mean, the way he looked when he took that snap and tried to roll out. You saw that? Yeah, I saw it.
Starting point is 00:26:51 The forces shaping the world's economies and financial markets can be hard to spot. Even though they are such a powerful player in finance, you wouldn't really know that you are interacting with them. And even harder to understand. Donald Trump's trade war, 2.0, is only accelerating the process of de-dollarization, which in a way is jargon for people turning away from the dollar. That is where the big take from Bloomberg podcast comes in, to connect the dots. How unusual is a deal like this? Unprecedented. Every weekday afternoon, we dive deep into one big global business story.
Starting point is 00:27:26 The biggest story of the reaction of the oil market to the conflict in the Middle East is one of what has not happened. Katie, you told me that ETFs are your favorite thing. They are. explain that. Why is that the case? And unpack what it means for you. Our breakfast foods are consistent consumer staples, and so they sort of become outsized indicators of inflation. Listen to the big take from Bloomberg News every weekday afternoon on the IHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey there, Dr. Jesse Mills here. I'm the director of the men's clinic at UCLA Health.
Starting point is 00:28:03 And I want to tell you about my new podcast called The Mailroom. And I'm Jordan, the show's And like a lot of guys, I haven't been to the doctor in many years. I'll be asking the questions we probably should be asking, but aren't. Because guys usually don't go to the doctor unless a piece of their face is hanging off or they've broken a bone. Depends which bone. Well, that's true. Every week, we're breaking down the unique world of men's health, from testosterone and fitness to diets and fertility and things that happen in the bedroom. You mean sleep?
Starting point is 00:28:33 Yeah, something like that, Jordan. We'll talk science without the jargon and get your. real answers to the stuff you actually wonder about. It's going to be fun, whether you're 27, 97, or somewhere in between. Men's health is about more than six packs and supplements. It's about energy, confidence, and connection. We don't just want you to live longer. We want you to live better. So check out the mailroom on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your favorite shows. Podcasters, it's time to get the recognition you deserve. The IHart Podcast Awards are coming back in
Starting point is 00:29:07 2026. Got a mic? Then you've got a shot. Every year we celebrate the most creative, compelling and game-changing voices in podcasting. Is that you? Submit now at iHeartPodcastawards.com for a chance to be honored on the biggest stage in the industry. Deadline, December
Starting point is 00:29:23 7th. This is your chance. Let's celebrate the power of podcasting and your place in it. Enter now at iHeartpodcastawards.com. For 25 years, I've explored what it means to heal, not just for myself, but alongside others. I'm Mike De La Rocha. This is Sacred Lessons, a space for reflection, growth, and collective healing.
Starting point is 00:29:47 What do you tell men that are hurting right now? Everything's going to be okay on the other side, you know, just push through it. And, you know, ironically, the root of the word spirit is breath. Wow. Which is why one of the most revolutionary acts that we can do as people, Just breathe. Next to the wound is their gifts. You can't even find your gifts unless you go through the wound.
Starting point is 00:30:09 That's the hard thing. You think, well, I'm going to get my guess. I don't want to go through all that. You've got to go through the wounds you're laughing. Listening to other people's near-death experiences, and that's all they say. In conclusion, love is the answer. Listen to sacred lessons as part of the My Goutura Podcast Network,
Starting point is 00:30:25 available on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. If one of us wins, we all win. I'm Ashley Reifeld, and I'm the host of the women's skateboarding podcast. Good luck with that. Good luck with that is a skateboarding podcast that is part cultural record, part news brief, mostly group therapy, and a place to talk about the past, present, and future of women and gender expansive skateboarding.
Starting point is 00:30:50 This week, me and my co-host, Nora Vasconcellos and Alex White, we have Fabiana del Fino on the show, a professional skateboarder from Florida, whose grit was forged in a family of athletes. Tune in to hear how she broke into the boys club, what it takes to be pro, and why just being grateful you're here shouldn't be the price of entry. Maybe the industry thinks that we just started skating five years ago because that's when they maybe started paying attention. It's a no-fluff conversation about putting in the years, stacking clips and receipts and still having to prove your worth while the industry catches up. You break down the door, sick now like hold the door for everyone. We created good luck with that because we want to share our experience
Starting point is 00:31:27 of existing in an industry that wasn't always built for everyone. So listen to good luck with that on IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Ah, I don't know. That got the hurt, boy.
Starting point is 00:31:41 Crack your fibula? Shudor just has to build on the momentum that he created from last Sunday's win. Yeah. It's not going to be perfect. You understand that it's not going to be perfect and you have to accept
Starting point is 00:31:53 that it's not going to be perfect, but you make the best of the situation that you have. Right. I don't have to be perfect, but I can't cost my team, I don't have to win the game, but I can't be the reason why we lose the game. Right. I can't put the ball in harm's way.
Starting point is 00:32:06 I can't throw a pick. I can't fumble the football. I've got to make very good decisions. Field position is going to be huge. Yeah. Because, you know, you start out, you try to play, hey, I'm going to try to keep you pin down, keep you on your side of the field, make you punt. I get ball in midfield, get a 10, 12-yard return.
Starting point is 00:32:25 Another first down. We're in field-go range. range, yeah. And so that's how you have to play it by the best. You just can't, you can't put your team in harm's way. And he's done it, he didn't, you know, he had the one in a reception, got a little careless with the ball, but I think the thing is, you can't, it's hard to play, it's hard to be good and play careless.
Starting point is 00:32:42 Yeah. It's hard. You can't go out there worried about, man, man, I run this route. If he throw it to me, what if I drop it? Right. That ain't even crossed my mind. Mm-hmm. But we got to, we're going to say it's going to be very interesting.
Starting point is 00:33:00 It's going to be, obviously, that's the one o'clock winter. So that's obviously one of the game. Is that a CBS or a Fox game? CBS? Oh, no. Yeah, but what you call them, Nasson, Nasson, Romo won't be there. Yeah, Tennessee Jacksonville. Oh, Buffalo, Pittsburgh.
Starting point is 00:33:23 Unless that's a Sunday night game. That's 4 o'clock. Okay. Okay, yeah. Do what, Ocho? No, I was saying the 4 o'clock game. Bill Steelers? Yeah, Bill Steelers.
Starting point is 00:33:39 That's what Romo and Nance would be. That's a CBS game. That's going to be a good one. Texans Colts, what time is that? Is that an 820 game? Texans Colts. Ooh, that's a damn good. So that's going to probably be, that's the number two team.
Starting point is 00:33:51 One o'clock? Probably JJ Watt. Yeah. That's JJ, yeah. For sure. Boy, you know, but you won't believe who played 8.30 tomorrow.
Starting point is 00:34:08 8.30 winning. Tomorrow night? Yeah. Ooh. Oh, the Bronco play the commanders. Yeah. You put something on them. Nah, Jayden Dan is playing.
Starting point is 00:34:16 Y'all definitely feeling this. Hey, no, no, don't play, Jaden. Because the boy, we got them headbusses. I, listen. We got headbusses, Ocho. I got a feeling. Then you got head bustle, but you also got a quarterback that can get out the pocket. Oh, Cho, we got headbusses.
Starting point is 00:34:32 We lead the league in sacks. What we do, we attack the quarterback. Okay. Y'all going to win the game? Yes. Okay, keep that same. Remember that. Chat.
Starting point is 00:34:41 Remember that. Let me write that down. Oh, Joe. You see, what we do, we like the wild dog. See, the wild dog is very unique because they do something. They're not overpowering. They run you until you get tired until you can't go on anymore. then you just
Starting point is 00:34:56 you know lines can overpower you hyena jaws can crush bones the biggest bone then wild dogs just they got they got energy for days yeah that's what them head that's what we got them edge
Starting point is 00:35:14 Cuban Benito Allen oh and guess who's back guess who's back guess who's back guess who's back guess who's back oh wait hold on Oh, yeah, you said it. Scary, scary Terry, not back yet, huh? Hey, you know what?
Starting point is 00:35:32 That old hamstring's still a little tight. I see y'all next week. Hey, you sound real confident, bro. You sound real confident. I bury highly. All right. That's good energy. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:50 No disrespect, but you're saying. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, respect. Listen, no disrespect. Ocho, it's over. Jayden, go ahead and sit this out, be ready for next year. Put you on another 5, 10 pounds of muscle so you can withstand those legs. You've got to be a little smarter. Know when to get down, no one to get out of the back.
Starting point is 00:36:10 Don't be afraid to throw that blink on and make sure this off season. You get all your, you know, all your equipment, the tail lights, all that's working. Because when you put that blink on, you want to make sure people see it. Mm-hmm. Hey, and don't be afraid to, hey, that turf, Ocho? Yeah. Get up under, pull it up over you Like you do covers
Starting point is 00:36:27 Uh-huh Make sure they can't hit you Damn Yeah, y'all are gonna lose I can tell Look at hell You bad, look at all You're gonna lose
Starting point is 00:36:38 I'm just saying I mean you're doing too much Like too much hyping up I mean y'all Listen, y'all Y'all good But it ain't what you're trying To make it seem like
Starting point is 00:36:49 Ocho I'm just I'm just a harbinger I'm just telling you I know y'all lead You know what a harbinger is A who? A harbinger
Starting point is 00:36:59 Nah What the hell is that? I'm just a messenger Okay I just hear the brain I'm just here to bring good news From the broad calls All right
Starting point is 00:37:08 All right Ah Ooh Yeah we'll see We'll see what We'll see what the command has got to say about that Okay We're fit to sweep the
Starting point is 00:37:23 Tennessee East? Oh, Joe, Jackson Dart will start week 13 against the Patriots. He took the podium to share classy tribute to his former head coach Brian Dayball. Dart said, obviously, there's been a lot happened since I've been up here. I just want to acknowledge that Coach Davs and all he did for me, when I look back on everything, it's really special to come to a place where a coach genuinely cares about you and loves you, and you have that personal relationship on and off the field.
Starting point is 00:37:50 I just have all the respect in the world for him. Ocho, I don't know. Have you ever had a coach fired during the season? No, no. Obviously, you know, I was in Cincinnati. I mean, that Mike Brown, and that's not there for a team. No, because cheap-ass Mike Brown ain't want to play nobody. That you're not working for me and I'm going to pay you and I got a guy asking
Starting point is 00:38:12 coach and I got to pay him too. Oh, no. Yeah, yeah, I've never had that happen. Mm-mm, mm-mm. No. No, I mean, I haven't had a coach. Coach is fired during the season, but obviously I never had coaches fired after the season. And it's tough.
Starting point is 00:38:28 It's tough, especially when you build up a relationship. You go like Coach Reed, Coach Reed drafted me. He was really smart to draft me, but he was, I don't know what, he lost to bump his head because he forgot to cut me. Wade Phillips came in after Coach Reeves and brought Jim Fosselin, rest his soul, who built his offense around a tight end when that was unheard of. So when those guys, and I kept a relationship with Coach Reeves, I kept a relationship with Wade Phillips,
Starting point is 00:38:56 and I see Wade. It's just like, because I owe a lot of my starting to Wade because Wade was a defensive coordinator in Denver and told Coach Reed to put me in the game. Wade did that. Put him in there. Yeah, Coach Reeves drafted me and believed in me and say, son, you can play in this league.
Starting point is 00:39:15 He said, I've played in this league, I've coached in this league, you can play. You got what it takes to play in this league. He believed in me. Put a couple of plays in there. Hey, when I got in there, I said, I'm going to call this play. I'm just for you.
Starting point is 00:39:30 One time you called a play for me and I effed it up. Hey, so. How you eff up your play? I get it if you mess up a play that's really not intended for you. Right. But you go get the ball. Mm-hmm. Little by little.
Starting point is 00:39:43 I get so happy, man, I get so happy, or I get so amped up on your, I forget everything. I forget everything. I did, man. I get so hype, man. I just, I just, like, I'm just panicked. Oh, man. But, uh, yeah, it's tough because this is what Jackson Dart knows.
Starting point is 00:40:08 Brian Dayball personally selected him. Yeah. He wanted Jackson Dart. Yeah, as his quarterback. That's the quarterback that he wanted. He wanted Jackson Dart. And I think Jackson Dart needs to understand one thing, Ocho. I understand you tough
Starting point is 00:40:25 and it gets the crowd going and it's nice your team but you're not been to make no living running over no defensive players trying to run people over yeah he's tripping nope he's driven somebody
Starting point is 00:40:36 somebody gonna get to him well they already got to him he didn't he miss three games with a concussion? Yeah but you know he all ahead he's young he ain't for to listen he's going to get somebody
Starting point is 00:40:48 going to catch him clean and he'll be like you know what this ain't for me and we stay behind my computer. Let me stay behind my camera and do what I need to do from there. Ocho, one of the stories that we're about to talk about now is really upsetting to me. X NFL quarterback Trayvon Boykin said Thanksgiving at Russell Wilson's mansion felt weird because none of his family was around. Let's take a listen to what Boykin had to say, Ocho. Yes, sir. Russell Wilson,
Starting point is 00:41:16 I went to his house for Thanksgiving. The word is, like, he catered. So no, you know, like, Bro, I come from a traditional country-haired black family. We're doing that. If I got as much money as Russell Wilson, my whole family would talk about me so bad if I ain't fly everybody out there for Thanksgiving. And I'm sponsored by an airline. Maybe he's not close to his family.
Starting point is 00:41:39 Maybe he not. But his mama wasn't there? Sisters wouldn't there? You know what I'm saying? Like, even though, like, it still worth me. I'm just still, even if you don't fool with your family, like, it still works me on Thanksgiving. family going to do the food this is what we're going to give you the one with the money we
Starting point is 00:41:56 come to your house you know what I'm saying that I let me out that part that's what we're going to do so to get over there and catch rustle whiz and like him is literally him Sierra Sierra Daddy me Nooney baby future the chef in two nannies and in three dogs and baby future at that time was bad as hell. Hey, I got a question. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:42:27 I hope I got an answer for you too. Why is he sharing the information anyway? Because see, that's what not chat. Now you see
Starting point is 00:42:37 why I don't have a whole lot of mofos at my house. See, he worried about somebody else family, your black ass there. He invited you.
Starting point is 00:42:47 He looked at you like family and what you do. Turn around and come and talk about. Got down real the mouth. You think you sell it, telling something. Man, I went to Russell House.
Starting point is 00:42:56 That mansion, it was weird. Yeah, because he had an outsider in there. That was the weird part about it. That's why you don't let people come to your house, chat. Nobody. First of all, no, me and my brother had money. Guess what Thanksgiving were always at? Granny's house.
Starting point is 00:43:13 Even though we couldn't get back, it was always going to be there. When we had a big-ass cookout on your, guess where it was? In Granny's backyard. Damn. I don't get it. I'm confused. Why is everybody always looking for a moment? Why is everybody always looking for a moment to go viral or to get your love 15 minutes?
Starting point is 00:43:36 He lets you into his home on Thanksgiving, a special day. Okay, if the family wasn't there, maybe they don't get it along. Maybe they don't see the eye to eye. I mean, just, I don't, I don't get it. I don't get it either, Ocho. I don't understand. His family was. wasn't there, but you was there.
Starting point is 00:43:54 But you take this opportunity now years later. To talk about it. Because Russ ain't been in Seattle for a long period of time. Right. And now you bring this up. That's correct. Because you try to, oh, guess who was there? Sierra Daddy, uh, Nooney,
Starting point is 00:44:12 uh, uh, uh, baby future, the chef. For the most part, I have a get-together. I'm catering it. Yeah. I just don't get, bro, I don't get that. Why you put this man, this man invited you into his home? You tell it what's happening inside this man home.
Starting point is 00:44:34 That's what, see, and people are, man, you anti-social, no, I'm anti-tie people running their damn mile. Ain't nobody. That man invited you into his home. Oh, so I guarantee Russ don't invite a whole lot of people into his home. No, absolutely. say Russ was standoffish. He's not, he invited you, invited your ass into his home.
Starting point is 00:44:59 And the things that he get, no good deed goes unpunished. This is the things he get. I don't blame, Russ. Now I see, Ross, no eff with a whole lot of people. I'm sorry, Russ, that you had to find out the whole hard way.
Starting point is 00:45:14 That some ninjas ain't ish. Oh, that's messed up. And he thinks he said something, he got his hat, cocked to the side. where he's just like, oh, these nuclear codes. Let me tell you what's going on aid. Let me tell you about the agreement that the Ukraine is about to sign with the Russia. He had like he giving some information like that.
Starting point is 00:45:33 Yeah. Talking that. Bad. That's messed up. Damn. I don't worry about what somebody in somebody relationship is with their family. That he got nothing to do with me. At all.
Starting point is 00:45:51 I don't know what his family. done to him. I don't know what he's done to them. I don't know. But for whatever reason, they weren't there. It doesn't bother me. Because guess where I'm at? I'm here. Right. I'm going to eat. I don't work. If I go somewhere, Ocho, I'll be, to God, honest truth. I don't worry about who's not there. I concern myself with who's here. Okay. May I invite me in? Okay. I've been invited to places. ain't nobody know I ain't take no pictures
Starting point is 00:46:28 I ain't tell nobody if they didn't want if they didn't want people to know they'd have told who they wanted to know and they'd have been there it was mentioned they didn't mention nothing about me
Starting point is 00:46:42 because I slept in and slept out the back door but there's some bulljad chat I don't care y'all can't convince me that this is this oh he should oh you know
Starting point is 00:46:52 that man just tell it No, this man has got no business telling what that man got going on his house. I don't care if he had four dogs sitting at the table. That's his table, and he invited your ass in. Yeah, we should know that, honestly. We should know anything about that at all. That's personal information. It's personal.
Starting point is 00:47:16 And then, also, and to make you, guess what he did? What? And at that time, baby future was back. Oh, who. Now you talk about the baby, too? They're kids. For the most part, you get kids. They're going to be a certain, you know, they don't want to sit down.
Starting point is 00:47:35 Okay, be quiet. Eat your food. Okay, that's a part of having a kid. Right. Maybe he doesn't have kids. He doesn't understand. They're all bad. They're all bad.
Starting point is 00:47:45 Ocho, I promise you. For the most part, the more money you have, the more likely when you have an event is going to be catered. Right. That's just the way it is. Yes. Now, some people, hey, some people,
Starting point is 00:48:01 their mom or their grandma say, baby, I want to cook. Mm-hmm. Okay. Granted, you ain't got to. No, baby, I want to do it. Right. I know if I had something big for my family,
Starting point is 00:48:14 oh, it's getting catered. I ain't cooking nothing. As a matter of fact, the only time the oven is the store going to be turned on a dude. We eat some ish. Honestly, you know, the women normally do all the cooking, huh?
Starting point is 00:48:30 But I'm just saying, Ocho. Oh, in general. Look, and he talked, it was a mansion, it wasn't nobody there. It should have been one minus one. Your ass shouldn't have been there. Yeah. Cere, ain't nobody ask you that.
Starting point is 00:48:47 Oh, that's crazy. I don't know why. Why? That's messed up. I just don't get it. Why would he do that, Ocho? I don't know. The man invited you.
Starting point is 00:49:05 Okay, let me ask you a question. Why you didn't take your podcast to your family? Since we're talking about family, where was your family? Obviously, this was on a podcast. In order to do a podcast, you have to have stories. wasn't on no podcast when his ass was in Russell Wilson house. So he's talking about Russ family wasn't there. Where was
Starting point is 00:49:27 his family? Right. You in the NFL, so clearly you got money. Why didn't you find your family in? You worried about whatever. And he's sponsored by airline. Why you caught that man's pockets? And hell they got to do with anything.
Starting point is 00:49:49 I still want to know where was your family your mom your dad your aunties your uncles your family your brothers where were they I don't know you talk about what Russell didn't have it he is
Starting point is 00:50:05 yeah he said hey bro I mean so he invited you to his house so clearly they thought you were going to be alone yeah and we thought you was cool you probably didn't have family to go to for Thanksgiving and we welcome move with open arms. I spend a media of Thanksgiving by myself
Starting point is 00:50:25 when I was in Denver Ocho. Right. I go to the 7-Eleven, get them sandwich that you put in the microwave and take my black ass home. I'm cool with it. Call it a day, huh? I call it a day.
Starting point is 00:50:37 One time, I'm trying to think, who house did I went to? I think maybe Burns. I think Burns was the only place. Maybe. I think Monica. I think Reggie,
Starting point is 00:50:49 who was a tight end in Denver. I think Monica cooked one year and I went over there but for the most part don't show I was by myself and I was cool with that and they
Starting point is 00:50:58 my teammates would invite me hey shop I know you're gonna be by yourself you want to come over man I'll let you know you'll never go be true I don't go
Starting point is 00:51:08 I don't go to people house the one time I did I did go to somebody house and I had to tell you about it that said to be a question but I would never go to somebody house and talk about what
Starting point is 00:51:21 wasn't there. Man, you thought enough of me to invite me into your place. And then I'm going to go get a podcast and try to dump on you? Yeah, that's crazy. And then I'm going to dump on your son? Talking about, oh, he was bad?
Starting point is 00:51:37 That's crazy. You're looking for that moment. I just hate that, man. I hate that. Russ don't bother nobody. You could like or dislike, but he don't really, He don't bother nobody.
Starting point is 00:51:51 He ain't out there talking about nobody. The man found somebody that made him happy. At the end of the day, he and Sierra, I'm on the outside, Ocho, just like everybody else. But it seems like they have a really good marriage. Yeah, they have ups and down. Yeah, they have disagreements. That's what a marriage is. Marriage is work.
Starting point is 00:52:07 It's just like, you don't get the job, Ocho. It's like, okay, that's it. No, you have to work. A marriage, you get into a relationship. Everything is chummy, but you have to work every day. Yeah. And I get that. But for people to try to take a shot.
Starting point is 00:52:20 in the man in his house, if you want to say, you see me walking down the street and you say that man, he ain't speak to me. You can say, you know what, he ain't, and I don't,
Starting point is 00:52:29 I'm not, you know, I'm on the plane, Ocho, I got my headset on and people trying to talk and I've just, for this very reason. You see, Ocho? Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:52:36 You see? Yeah. You start carrying on conversation. Yeah, I talked to him. Oh, he told me all this stuff. I talked to him for hours. You see how you, now you see why, Ocho.
Starting point is 00:52:47 Now you see why. Yeah. I just I've never been able to do that anything I do it always stays in house yes it should it always stays in house and there is definitely
Starting point is 00:53:05 it's definitely not for the public that's a no no that's a no oh you go somebody house I ain't even hey don't ask me I don't know man what was such and such stay I don't even know man
Starting point is 00:53:19 I was just a is there yesterday. Oh, man. You don't give up nobody intel like that, man. The man invited you in. If somebody is nice enough to invite you in,
Starting point is 00:53:30 the last thing you do is to try to paint them in a negative light. Yeah. And what's the point? What's the point? I don't know. There's nothing to gain.
Starting point is 00:53:44 Maybe they wanted to celebrate on their own. Maybe they didn't want to fly away Seattle, Seattle. Where's Russ is from Virginia, right? He's from the East Coast, didn't he? Maybe they didn't want to fly away to Seattle to take a six-hour playing ride. Right.
Starting point is 00:54:02 Cincinnati? Yeah, I thought, yeah. Yeah, I don't get it, man. I am so, so. I was, man, I was listening to this old show, and the more he talked, and it wasn't, he wasn't talking about me. The more he
Starting point is 00:54:20 talk, it's like my grandma's to say, boy, the more you talk, the matter I get. Mm-hmm. I mean, it just lets you... Oh, Joe, Bay, I swear. That's crazy. How you go to somebody's house? Man, you know who house I was at yesterday? I wouldn't even let that information out.
Starting point is 00:54:42 Thank you. You know, nobody did it. Let alone on the show. No, come on now. Oh, Lord, have mercy. Man, Russ, I am so sorry. All in that, Russ, a handful of times. I met him in his rookie season.
Starting point is 00:55:01 Had a great conversation with him. You can tell that he was serious about football, asked a bunch of questions. Man, how do you win the Super Bowl? What was John Elway like? What did y'all do? You know, y'all closed. What was y'all this?
Starting point is 00:55:12 You know, asked a bunch of questions. Yeah. Yeah, we, as a matter of fact, It was at the Super Bowl in New Orleans when the 49ers played the Ravens. That was his rookie season. Oh, where everything went out.
Starting point is 00:55:34 Remember the lights went out? The lights went out, yeah. That's where it was. Man, Russ, I'm sorry, bro. I'm sorry. Tegging, he took it. These guys getting the way they talk real house husbands
Starting point is 00:55:54 yeah but the housewives they know the real house husbands yeah damn oh Joe the eagles are ruining the lives the love lives
Starting point is 00:56:10 in the city of Philadelphia look at this Snapchat okay so you know this is going to sound absolutely crazy but I was noticing since we started talking daily and went on our date, the Eagles have been eating in the bed. Well, I don't want you to hate me or block me,
Starting point is 00:56:29 but I think maybe we need to not talk until the season is over. Damn. I like a lot. I like you a lot. Don't take this as visible. Just need to turn our look around for the birds, and I think you'd understand that too. So he wanted to break up.
Starting point is 00:56:48 up until the season over? At least to the season over. Ocho, I'm superstitious, too. Very superstitious. But that's crazy work. Do you even ask that? Even have the audacity. I mean, football is serious.
Starting point is 00:57:04 But not that serious. It is. I'm calling on. Listen, me, we need to take a break. We need to talk. My priority right now is football. Once the season end, you know, then, you know, we can get back together.
Starting point is 00:57:22 That's what he said, oh, Cho. He said, look, I don't want to break up with you. I mean, but I just think we need to pause this thing. Okay, how about we put this relationship on Layaway? Pause and there's a breakup, huh? Pausing is a breakup. Oh, Joe, I'm putting this relationship on Layaway until after the season over, then I come back and get it.
Starting point is 00:57:37 You know, your grandma and mama don't put stuff on Layaway. When you put stuff on Layaway, can you get it right there? No, you put it on there and you will come back and get it at a later day and time. Listen, she must be desperate. She must be deft if she's going to wait Definitely desperate Anybody got time to pay them games Breakup space
Starting point is 00:57:57 Oh so let me get the straight Let me get the straight I guarantee your Cambodia If Cambodia said, oh, I knew you to wait I knew you to wait two weeks Man, oh Man
Starting point is 00:58:11 Hey I ain't waiting two weeks Nothing I wait a week I wait a week You are on Cambodia Man, look here Hey, anything past a week Man, you might well chalk it up
Starting point is 00:58:25 Hey, I'm going to pull a Trevor barking on you Man, you all saw Ocho was in that fight Yeah, I'm not, look, I'm superstitious, Ocho. Yeah, I'm not. go down, look, when I'm home, in Atlanta, I'm in the basement. Don't call me. Don't text me.
Starting point is 00:58:55 I don't want nothing to eat. I don't want nothing. Right. Because if anything happened, if anything happens, that wasn't happening before, if you called me or you come, I locked the door.
Starting point is 00:59:17 Yeah, no. And if my team start losing, I'll take the dogs upstairs. No, y'all bad luck. Everybody got to go, huh? Yep. Yep. So I understand. I understand.
Starting point is 00:59:34 So I guess that means, oh, he ain't going to be able to use these sparks until after the season. Man, that's almost a month and a half. I ain't got time for that. Man, you go, hey, he going to let the sparks go. Mm-mm, I ain't got time for that. No, sir. You don't order some too, ain't it? Huh?
Starting point is 00:59:57 You don't, how am I? I mean, you don't order something too, ain't it? How you know? I can see your order. It's fine, boy. Well, that's your call it the right name. That's the right name for them. Yes, sir.
Starting point is 01:00:19 Because you ever wonder how they come to a, how they come to a, man, how do they come to that? How did they come upon that name? They always got to think of a name that's going to be catchy. They always got to think a name that's catchy that goes along with the product itself. And it makes sense. Get you that spark. Some of the biggest fires started by a spark. Some of the biggest brush fires.
Starting point is 01:00:47 I like it. I like it. I'm sorry, bro. But, uh, I wish I knew it was. I had them give me, send me your sparks. You ain't using them. And she's going to be gone. He's going to be mad because the season going to end.
Starting point is 01:01:06 And if his team doesn't make it, the playoffs. All that for nothing, huh, Ojo? But nothing. But nothing. especially if it's a girl that doesn't understand football she's not a sports fan and you think you're going to pull that off
Starting point is 01:01:22 and that's your priority man please you don't think that's going to happen mm-mm man hey Ocho people take that stuff serious
Starting point is 01:01:41 man they take sporting events are serious they do they do I mean I think I think they take NFL football and college football I think it's that I think NFL college I think those are like people just like lose their damn minds
Starting point is 01:01:54 Look college basketball don't get Don't get fun until March madness Right The NBA wants to playoff start But because every game in football is so important in college And the NFL
Starting point is 01:02:09 Every game is heightened Because you don't play that many You play in 82 NFL games You play in 162 basketball baseball games I mean you play one basketball game that's five NFL games
Starting point is 01:02:23 that's 10 I'll be basically nine now baseball games so you understand the importance of every game and then once you get to the playoffs every game is a game seven so guys take that face man please
Starting point is 01:02:39 yeah you got you got one shot one shot man I'm sorry bro I hopefully the eagle can turn it around and I just hope when they turn it around you know she is around I'm just saying if prescribed new sexual health patients
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Starting point is 01:03:18 Yeah. Right. Absolutely. Absolutely. Oh, elephant truck. Come out sooner or later. Woo! Ha!
Starting point is 01:03:35 Breaking news, Ocho. Lane Kiffin. to LSU I told you We already knew that though That ain't really breaking news I told you what he was gonna do yesterday The question now, Ocho
Starting point is 01:03:52 Because we knew that would look The only holdup was He really wanted to go to LSU But he wanted to coach his team He wanted to start what he finished He wanted, excuse me, backwards He wanted to finish what he started The question is
Starting point is 01:04:05 Will the President allow I think that's the president's call Or an athletic director The chancellor. So that will be, will they allow him to do that? I would hope so. I would hope so. I'm curious.
Starting point is 01:04:22 I mean, he might be petty and say no. Well, he put it, uh, uh, he tried. He tried. it's just it's just hard it's just hard you know i mean that that that kind of money oh cho you're talking about 14 million a year for what's 12 a year 12th so that's 84 million dollars man i thought well the quick look 84 million dollars do i believe old miss could imagine that yes do i believe old miss can get the same level of talent at lSU i do not no i do not and that's what it comes down to, Ocho.
Starting point is 01:05:11 Yes. Recruiting will become much easier being an LSU. Even though you did a good job at Ole Miss, it'd be much easier. Man. O'Lane. That puts him behind only Kirby. Because Kirby's making 13.
Starting point is 01:05:34 Kirby's making like 13 a year, 13-150 or 13-250 a year. Mm, damn. Oh, I. Okay. LSU, the boot. But Ohio ain't got no state income tax. LSU, what's a Louisiana state income tax? Oh, three day, man.
Starting point is 01:06:14 You can live with that. Three percent? Nice. That's nice. It ain't California, New York, or New Jersey. All right, Ocho, it's time to play a fade, presented by prize picks. We got football tomorrow. We got football tomorrow.
Starting point is 01:06:36 We got football tomorrow. Who they? Brock Purdy, less than 198 yards. You know what? I'm going under. With that weather. Oh, absolutely. Not just hell with that defense, shit.
Starting point is 01:06:56 Oh, my bad. Close enough. I agree. I think he's going under also. Trey McBride, more than seven receptions. Who they play? Arizona. They play in, uh,
Starting point is 01:07:10 In Tampa? What's the weather? Eighty-one. Oh, yeah, he's getting seven. It's going to be hot. Yep. Jacoby Myers, 3.5 receptions. He's in Jacksonville now, right?
Starting point is 01:07:26 Who did you, who did Jags play? Jacksville. No, I don't think you're getting four receptions, though, Joe. No. You think you're getting four receptions, though, Cho? Four receptions? I don't think so. Mm-mm.
Starting point is 01:07:45 Mm-mm. Yeah, I'm going to go less. Jackson, Smith, and Jigba, J.S.N, more than 0.5 rush or receiving touchdowns. Who they play? It don't matter who they play. The answer is yes. Oh, yeah, he's good. He's going to light them up.
Starting point is 01:08:11 Yeah, he'll get a touchdown. He'll get a touchdown. $25 to win $150. Download the app today. Use code Shannon to get $50 in lineups when you play your first $5 lineup. It's good to be right. All right, Ocho, time for our final segment of the evening.
Starting point is 01:08:34 Now it's time for Q and A. Q and A. And Hid and Willie say, let's all play a drinking game when Ocho says, God, we all drink. We should all be drunk before the first segment. You've got to pull drink through to let everyone know. I like that one. You don't drink.
Starting point is 01:09:03 Christian Phil says people who pick the game as better rivalry than the Iron Bowl quit watching college football. and smack what you see in the mirror people get killed over the results I think it's close between the Iron Bowl and Ohio State and Michigan I understand Texas
Starting point is 01:09:25 Texanian Right What is it? Minnesota Wisconsin Have 54% say Ohio State Michigan 38% say Alabama Auburn Um
Starting point is 01:09:39 I don't think that's the oldest one though There's someone been playing longer than that Probably Harvard and Yale 100 plus Damn What Been playing since 1873 Jesus Christ
Starting point is 01:10:05 Oh You're about Harvard and Yale? No, Yale Princeton been playing college football Oh, since now 1873? Yeah, 1873 and Harvard Yale since 1875. Boy, that's a long time.
Starting point is 01:10:21 Hell, yeah. Master C, I bet Kirby was praying for Auburn to win. Probably, but you know, at this point in time, I'm in. And, you know, that's basically a home game. for them. Now, that's not that far of a drive. That's like, what,
Starting point is 01:10:43 90 from Birmingham. It's probably about 90 minutes, less than two hours, from Birmingham up to Georgia Dome. I mean, Georgia Dome. Mercedes Ben Dome. Mercedes-Benz. But it's not bad at all. Christian Field says, people from Ohio and Michigan have
Starting point is 01:10:59 the Lions in Cleveland or Cincinnati. If OSU and me are bad, we all get the, it's Iron Bowl and maybe USFL. You're right. ain't nothing going on in Alabama but bad there ain't no pro sports there ain't nothing
Starting point is 01:11:15 that's it they have a USFL team Ocho but you know Birmingham that's right the Alabama team damn but yeah you got the lions
Starting point is 01:11:25 hold on they got the Cavaliers Michigan got the pistons they got Detroit Tigers they got Cincinnati Reds they got the Cleveland
Starting point is 01:11:39 an Indians in Alabama. That's it. We need a basketball team. Maybe you get the bananas, Savannah bananas to come down. Oh, wait. What that's that? That's out there? Savannah, Georgia.
Starting point is 01:11:52 Okay. Hey, they be cutting, boy. They do. They be cutting. Be turning backflip. Dude, catch the ball. Turn the backflip. Why he catching the ball?
Starting point is 01:12:01 Yeah, they'd be cutting. Jay J.J. Johnson, I love this show. On a personal, Ocho. It's been almost two years, man. Pay me my money before I have to do something to you. $200. You got my DM. Who I owe $200?
Starting point is 01:12:17 Man, I owe nobody no damn $2.00. Yeah, you're all the man, $200, oh, Cho. Now, you know how, you know how when St. Louis rolled up on a little man. But St. Louis, hey. And when Brooklyn never had to do something bad to him, he put a cigarette butt out on his nose, now. Do something to make me feel better. $200, but I don't remember that. Galatoscope.
Starting point is 01:12:44 G5, JMU, James Madison University, I guess. Tulane, North Texas, the biggest Duke fans in the world come from the ACC Conference Championship. What that mean? I guess Duke, that's who Duke beat some of them teams. Jimmy Harney, my spouse and I can never seem to move forward, always having the same problems and we don't know what to do at America.
Starting point is 01:13:12 Call it quits after 14 years or what? Who, 14? What seems to be the issue? Yes. Hold on. Let me get comfortable. You keep saying you keep having the same problems. What are the problems?
Starting point is 01:13:24 Are the problems financial? Are the problems, you know, personal? Right. What's the issue? Right. It's hard to help when we have better context and what the problem is. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:38 um well look man 14 years a long time to put in something look i mean that's sometimes ocho there comes a time no matter you know you put 10 years 15 20 years right there's just irreconcilable differences yeah and we just get to a point ohcho we can't move move forward together right they're gonna they're gonna become that time but jimmy make sure you've exhausted every avenue every last one Because that green grass, somebody fertilized and then watered it. Hmm. And don't be, don't, hey, sometimes the greenest grass is field turf.
Starting point is 01:14:22 Ooh, that's a good one on. God damn. It ain't real, Jimmy. So I'm just saying, just be careful. Just make sure that you've done everything that you possibly could. And sometimes you might be at a point, Jimmy, that you cannot go on. That ship, hey, is run ashore. but exhausts every opportunity, Jimmy.
Starting point is 01:14:40 Every last one, because there ain't nothing outside. Trigger the 9059 trigger tie here. I go by tie on Kenocho. I feel good. My tides and my past 10 and 2. I think if we hit on all cylinders, we're the best in the nation.
Starting point is 01:14:58 What's y'all take? Now, I don't think the tide the best in the nation. No. No. I think there are five or 16 that could easily, easily, beat Alabama.
Starting point is 01:15:09 Now, the past or something different. The past looked good. Yeah. They're very well coached. Defense is going to be where they're supposed to be. They've done a great job of protecting
Starting point is 01:15:20 the football thus far, and if they can continue to do that, they can run the football with Henderson. Now, I don't know when Stevenson's coming back because he's on our, isn't it? But, Ty, look, The Patriots are doing good.
Starting point is 01:15:39 The Patriots are doing good. They play really, really well. They still got a couple of big tests coming up. They got Buffalo again in their building. They went to Buffalo beat them. Yeah. Okay. So now they're going to have a two-headed monster, a guy that can run with power.
Starting point is 01:15:56 The other guy that can hit his head on the goalpost from anywhere on the field, they're going to be a tough out. Barron the Gash, hey, Ocho, Ronaldo, would be 41 at the World Cup. How well do you think he'll play? play. Oh, and that's a good question. Based on how he's playing so far, I think he's going to play well. He can't play well.
Starting point is 01:16:17 Rinaldo wants to represent his country and that team. And very well, the one thing he's missing is that World Cup. Yeah. He's missing that world cup. And what you called got here last time? Yeah, messy. Yeah. But that was a good one, Ocho.
Starting point is 01:16:31 That game was awesome. The French dude, what's the dude name? Mbapapé. Inbape. Yeah, that was a very good game. Very good game. It's going to be a tough task, though, for Portugal, though. It's going to be tough.
Starting point is 01:16:46 Nate Cubs, you're the gold enough to say Randy over Rice. Hold on. No, I never say Randy over Rice. Ocho, oh, and Ocho, you ain't no dolphin, Cuzz. I believe, Aqua and Orange. He ain't, Nate, he ain't no, he ain't no dolphin.
Starting point is 01:17:08 fan. He bleed orange and black with a little white sprinkled in and red, silver, and blue. And I've been a Dolphin fans in 1968. Oh, no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 01:17:26 I ain't in those guys category. I'm good. I did what I was supposed to do. I ain't even go tight in. I ain't in for the hole, y'all. But I did okay. I don't feel I left anything on the field. I ain't leave no crumbs, Ocho.
Starting point is 01:17:41 At all. Barry game, Ocho, you were asked about your camera last night and you mocked them. They ain't mean nothing bad by it. They probably wonder why Unks spent so much time looking like at Elgado and not Ocho.
Starting point is 01:17:55 L-O-L, all love. News, 1976, Boykin, is that co-worker that you give a ride home, offers no gas money. The next day at work, he's telling other, man, you drive slow and your car junkie inside. Ha ha ha. Hey, that's funny. Now, that, that was funny. Guys, thank you for joining us for another episode of Nightcap, but that concludes our episode of Nightcap. but that concludes our episode of Nightcap.
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Starting point is 01:19:33 He caught three touchdowns tonight. The last one was the difference in the ball game. Isaiah Horton joined us tonight, the Alabama Outstanding Wire Receiver. Alabama is headed to the SEC Championship thanks to a very hard fault, 2720 victory on the road in Auburn. The number one Buckeyes remain unbeaten. Belface, Indiana, also unbeaten in the Big Ten, excuse me, championship thanks to a 279 victory over the number 15 Michigan Wolverine.
Starting point is 01:20:05 number eight Oklahoma survived a scare and looks like they're headed to the college football playoff thanks to a 1713 victory over the LSU Tigers and it's being reported Lane Kiffin is headed to LSU the only thing that seems to be unresolved will he or won't he coach the Ole Miss Rebbed in the college football playoffs
Starting point is 01:20:27 it's being reported doesn't look like that's going to happen doesn't look like Lane is going to get an opportunity to start excuse me to finish what he started. But when you, you know, take the action that he took, now that's out of your hands. You get to control your actions, not the consequences because of your action.
Starting point is 01:20:47 So thank you again for joining us. We really appreciate that support. Thank Isaiah Horton for joining us. Alabama wide receiver that caught three touchdown. The last one was the difference in the ball game as they win 27 to 20. I'm up. He's Ocho.
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