Club Shay Shay - Nightcap - Hour 2: LeBron’s cryptic tweet, the issue with the 65-game rule, Nicki Minaj vs. Megan Thee Stallion

Episode Date: February 1, 2024

Shannon and Gil discuss what’s next for LeBron James and the Lakers, Joel Embiid’s quest for back to back MVPs, and the Nicki Minaj-Megan Thee Stallion beef. #Club #VolumeSee omnystudio.com/listen...er for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:01:54 They try to save everybody. Listen to Spiraled on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Get your podcasts. So, Gil, what do you make about this tweet? They said LeBron James posted a passive-aggressive tweet after Loft signed off on his teammates before the PR staff cuts him off. Where do the Lakers go from here? Because he's like that. I think the reporter asked him,
Starting point is 00:02:25 is there anything that you want to say to your teammates to play Boston tomorrow night? And he said, no. Just do their job. Then after the game, he posts an hourglass. Now, I don't know who the hourglass was intended for. I don't know if it was Jeannie Buss or the hourglass was intended for his teammates.
Starting point is 00:02:42 You sorry. Time is running out on you sorry, mofos. Or Jeannie, time is running out on you sorry mofos or Jeannie time is running out on us or Darvin Ham time running out on you for real though what you think he meant you remember that story you told about
Starting point is 00:02:57 that girl asking for the patet yes yes yes I think that LeBron was saying the same thing. Pack your shit, you out, right? Just go. There's no conversation no more. Just everybody pack it
Starting point is 00:03:14 and get on out of there, sweetheart. Hey, I heard what you said, but look, the cab, that Uber outside, right? All y'all, there's Ubers outside. They waiting for you. Get, get gone. Get, get gone.
Starting point is 00:03:30 We done. Yeah, you ain't got to leave the NBA, but you got to get the hell out of LA. Sir. Boy, the boys, they're praying for their lives. But Gil, they've stopped playing. I think they've given up like 135 points over the last five games per game.
Starting point is 00:03:46 Now, I understand that it's kind of a little elevated because of the double overtime. And I think it was, what, 140-something? It got to the 140. But they gave up 130-plus back-to-back nights to Houston and Atlanta. And it's supposed to be defense. The problem is this. The game is harder for them. You know they rank last in three-point attempts?
Starting point is 00:04:12 They rank last in three-point attempts. Hell, they rank last in three-point bait, too. They just can't keep up. They just can't keep up. And they don't realize if teams are shooting threes and you're sitting there trying to get to the free throw line, teams are going to blow you out. Yeah, because on most nights,
Starting point is 00:04:32 the only way they're able to keep it as close as they do is because they go to the free throw line so much more than their opponents. Yeah. But they're normally, on a nightly basis, losing the three-point battle by at least 15 points. Yeah. This year, they've probably shot more threes in 46 games, probably five.
Starting point is 00:04:57 More than the other team. Yeah, yeah. They lose in that battle on a nightly basis. And it's hard. It's hard to consistently overcome because threes are more than twos. That's why teams are taking more of those because they believe, hey, we 40% from three, we'll overtake the 50% from two.
Starting point is 00:05:15 So when you look at it, Gil, and that's why teams are obviously getting up more threes, but it's hard on a nightly basis when a team is outscoring you by so many points from the three point line to win ball games. Yeah. And the bad part about the free throw,
Starting point is 00:05:32 they're winning at the free throw line with just two players. It's not like they're all shooting free throws, right? It's not like, you know, it's, it's Anthony Davis or God damn LeBron, right?
Starting point is 00:05:43 It's not like LeBron is averaging 10 to see. He's only averaging five. Right. So it's really AD. Yeah, so most of the time they're hanging on AD's shoulders to get them to the free throw line. So that is the hard part. Everybody needs to do their part to try to generate points.
Starting point is 00:06:01 I like what Vando's been doing. I'm going to give him his credit. He's been doing very well, putting himself in positions now to get easy buckets. He's not sitting at the three, he's slicing, cutting, diving. So you have hope, but
Starting point is 00:06:14 at the end of the day, time's up. Time's up. Hey, I don't know if you're watching Lakers, but I'm going to tell you what you do. This is what you do, right? There's this team, right? I think they play in, they call it USC, right?
Starting point is 00:06:32 There's a player on that team. He has like, it's James on the back, right? Right. It's James on the back, right? You cheer for him like he's your son. back, right? You cheer for him like he's your son. And therefore,
Starting point is 00:06:47 the father of that son might consider you a friend and might consider you to stay on the team. Because other than that, goddammit, if he right now wants your ass gone, you gone.
Starting point is 00:07:04 66 players has been traded when Lebron's on the team that ain't he don't hold back from cutting the fat um d-low up until uh last night had played really really well do you think d-low still because still in it? Because I thought he, look, he played a stretch. He had three straight possessions in which he turned the ball over two and then got a lucky bounce on the other one because he's about to turn that over.
Starting point is 00:07:34 It got deflected, went to Anthony Davis and AD laid it up. But then after three horrible possessions, he comes back and he hits a three and he pulls up and he doesn't even think about it with no hesitation,
Starting point is 00:07:48 Gil. And this is the issue that's this is the issue with someone like D'Lo. You mentally know you've been traded, so now you don't care. Now that you don't. So you're playing free.
Starting point is 00:08:04 Now you don't care, you're playing free. Now you don't care. You're playing free because you're gone, right? The deload that we see today is the deload that we needed from the beginning for us not even to be in this position, right? You are the third option. You are. It's not Austin Reeves. It's not Lemon Daddy, right? It's not him.
Starting point is 00:08:24 It's you. You are the all-star player. You're the one who's been here before. You need to be doing what you're doing. I think because he feels he's free and he's out, he might as well just go out there and let it go, and that's what he's been doing. Right.
Starting point is 00:08:40 But right now, I mean, Kobe of the Ozarks, Austin Reeves has been the third most consistent player yeah behind AD and LeBron and that's not I mean that that needs to be D'Lo D'Lo needs to be the third the third most consistent player they need to be able to count on him on a nightly basis now his average is bumped up it looked good because he's, you know, had a couple of 30-point games in there, and he's been in the high 20s. But he needed to play the previous 30 games like he played the last 10 games. Yes, sir.
Starting point is 00:09:18 But the people that they're trying to trade for, I'm like, hmm. You don't like DeJounte Murray? What, he's about 6'2"? I thought he liked 6'4". He ain't D'Lo's size. He not? No, he's not D'Lo's size. D'Lo's a big guard, right?
Starting point is 00:09:39 D'Lo's a big guard, so I'm giving up. I don't know. I do like, you know, the name is Baby Boy. I do like him. I watched him this summer up in Washington. And he can hoop. He can really play.
Starting point is 00:10:02 Baby Boy, Murray. DeJounte? Yeah, he can really play Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah I don't mind it, but I never like losing height But I guess when you got LeBron and AD back there, it's fine They say Murray, they got Murray listed at 6'5", he ain't 6'5"? He ain't look six, five to me,
Starting point is 00:10:25 but he, I mean, he could be that, that, you know, but he looked like, I mean, he looked long.
Starting point is 00:10:29 I mean, he don't mean obviously ain't have any girls. He don't have any like do him, but he, he looked long. He looked angular. I'm not even gonna lie. I'm just be honest on,
Starting point is 00:10:38 you know, you know, uh, that kid in Detroit Stewart. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. See,
Starting point is 00:10:44 he was after me over there. Right. Cause I said something. So you had to, so you had to keep your head on a swivel. You were like, yeah? Yeah. Yeah, see, he was after me over there, right? Because I said some things. Oh, so you had to keep your head on the swivel. Yeah, yeah. So I was, you know, I was like, I wasn't proud when I was sitting in the stands. I was kind of more on the low like this. So he might look a little bit smaller than I really think.
Starting point is 00:10:59 So he really... So hold up. So how did this happen? I think I heard the story. Okay, you had said something about Isaiah Stewart on a podcast, on your podcast. No, I wrote something. Okay.
Starting point is 00:11:15 Oh, Twitter. Yeah, I don't want to be, I want to say he didn't read it right, right? But, you know, I don't know what college he went to, but let's just say he didn't read how I wrote it. What I wrote was. This is what you do in the NBA. You wait for your teammates to get around you, hold you back and you fake like you want to do it. Right. Right. You don't get fined. You get to pretend you're aggressive. OK, that's what you're supposed to do. That's a rule, right?
Starting point is 00:11:45 I don't know if the blood was in his eyes still when he read that Because he took it like you were scared, like you really didn't want to do nothing. He said, yeah, so you waited. So he came to me like, yeah, so you think I waited till my teammates came? My teammates in here now. And I'm like,
Starting point is 00:12:04 yeah. my teammates ain't here now. And I'm like, yeah. Your teammates ain't here to hold you. He really stepped to you, Gil. Yeah, like your teammates ain't here to hold you back. God damn, boy, did you just, did you, did you just pranking me? So from there. So what did you say?
Starting point is 00:12:25 So when he said that, what'd you say? Did you stand up? No, I know. Hell no, Unc. What? Unc? Listen, listen. I'm a podcaster. I had to think about my episode. I got shows to do.
Starting point is 00:12:41 I can't be dragged up and down the goddamn hallways, Unc, over some shit he couldn't read, right? That ain't my goddamn fault because he couldn't read what I wrote, right? I'm not sitting here trying to argue. Because obviously, he must have knew I was coming to see me and he was triggered, right? I'm not going to- Where is he from? Is he from Washington?
Starting point is 00:13:02 Yeah, he went to Washington. Okay, yeah. Well, damn, Gil, you went to his turf. I know. That's what I'm saying. to. Where is he from? Is he from Washington? Yeah, he went to Washington. Okay, yeah. Well, damn, Gil, you went to his turf. I know. That's what I'm saying. He pulled up. I'm trying to have a nice little conversation, and he pulled up. And I'm sitting here like, listen, I know.
Starting point is 00:13:15 Listen, I'm not even going to lie. When he said it, I had to go to Google to make sure I said what I said. Like, wait, what? Not me. So what did you say? Did you try to explain and say, bro, this is what I said. This is what I meant. Not me. Did you try to explain and say, bro, this is what I said. This is what I meant. I'm sorry that you took it that way.
Starting point is 00:13:30 No, because I didn't really, like, I don't remember saying anything bad about him. So I had to go back and read it and say, no, he read it wrong. Nah, he read it wrong. That's that public education. You loved him like Tom and Hearns had Mark.
Starting point is 00:13:46 Hey, listen, I didn't want no part. Listen, I fight people I know I can win. Listen, fighting, you only fight if you can win. If you don't think you can win, don't fight. So when he said what he said, what did you say? Huh? Say what?
Starting point is 00:14:12 What you talking about, huh? You didn't say nothing. I ain't doing 2,000 push-ups a day. What's wrong with you? But you didn't say... You could have said, bro, that's not what I meant. You took it the wrong way. How do I supposed to tell this big dude he can't read?
Starting point is 00:14:33 Just tell him you. I said, bro, you took it the wrong way. I'm saying, look, I understand. Ain't nobody trying to get fined. What I was saying is that, look, you wait till your teammates grab you. You act like you want to do something. Bro, I know you're going to squabble in the streets, but in the streets and in the game,
Starting point is 00:14:52 it's something entirely different. You ain't trying to throw your career away. I hear you, but my feet was more on Forrest Gump style, baby. I was ready to run. I had to stop myself from running. That's all shit I got a show to do. I had an all-white uncle.
Starting point is 00:15:11 I had an all-white uncle. I couldn't be dragged up. Nah, Gil, you just got a different... I mean, look, like, bro. I was like, nah, bro. I said, nah, you just took it wrong. Yeah. Listen, just like... You know how people be talking on just took it wrong. Yeah. Listen, just like
Starting point is 00:15:25 you know how people be talking on the internet? Yeah. Oh, they have that keyboard, they have the phone, they have that phone. When you see me, I'm one of them dudes. Oh, no, I don't have the same smoke once I see you. No. No, I pretend that I
Starting point is 00:15:41 didn't say none of it. Unless I know I can win the fight in which 98% of the people I talk shit about, I pretend that I didn't say none of it. Unless I know I can win the fight, in which 98% of the people I talk shit about, I probably can't win that fight. So therefore, I'm ready to run. Right. I'm not even going to be ashamed.
Starting point is 00:15:59 Baby, I'm out of there. What is your take on you got to play at least 65 games to be eligible for awards? MVP, All-NBA, Defensive Player of the Year. You miss
Starting point is 00:16:17 65, 17, so you miss more than 17 games, you're ineligible for those awards. And Tyrese Halliburton has an opportunity to get 40 extra million. He's probably, unless he, hey, unless he get on the ball here, he gonna
Starting point is 00:16:33 miss out on that bread. Joel Embiid has an opportunity. Now, here's the thing. If Joel Embiid said he doesn't care about the MVP, the only other trophy, the only thing that matters to him is the finals. Well, get your big ass healthy.
Starting point is 00:16:51 Don't worry about the MVP. And I'll get healthy, and let's go win the championship. That's what he said. He said, because after he dropped that 70, he said, that's fine and good, but the most important thing to me is the NBA championship. Come on, you know that's players.
Starting point is 00:17:09 That's player in media, right? What are you really supposed to say? Do you really supposed to be selfish and like, I'm going for that MVP, baby. I need to show y'all that I earned this one, so I'm going to show you I'm done. He can't say that. You know back-to-back carries a lot of weight.
Starting point is 00:17:26 It puts you in a different category. Yeah, so I have to play. So a player, it plays the political game. Yeah, I don't really care about that. I care about the championship. Knowing damn well you think I'm averaging 35 a game, not to win back-to-back MVP, must be silly. Yeah, they should have thought, oh, Gil, must be silly. They should have thought,
Starting point is 00:17:45 oh, Gil, this is what those players should have thought when they were sitting there and there wasn't nothing wrong with them. And now, the owners and the players, and hey, the NBA PA agreed to this. This is the rule that the players
Starting point is 00:18:01 agreed to. So this is not something that the owners just instituted without players being involved. Because it seems to me the other players got tired of the superstars just arbitrarily sitting out. Now, OK, so the only problem with it is, is. You're putting. You're putting number on something that's an anomaly, right? If I play under 64 games, my chances of making an all NBA team is not that high, right? It really isn't.
Starting point is 00:18:41 Man, please. But if I play that dominant, I might make it, right? Right. You know what I mean? So what you're taking away is you're taking away the anomaly of it, right? In NBA history, there's only three players who's played under 65 games as one MVP, right? There's only been three, right? Did they have great years? bill walton 18 and 13
Starting point is 00:19:08 who played that was that was that was the year that was the year he won uh they won the finals they won the championship in 77 yeah but george gert but he played 58 games george gervin played all 82 games averaging 27 yeah right so you know i, you know what I mean? He was runner up. So, you know, unless it like, if it was the other way it made sense, the fact that he's averaging 35 a game, that oversees your number, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:36 But guys were sitting out and it wasn't nothing wrong with them. So now what you've done is because you were sitting out. so now we got to punish everybody there's so i believe there's something seriously wrong with joel and b's knee but because he and so many other players over the last decade had arbitrarily taken off well i don't want to play tonight i'll play tomorrow night so the nba said no we're not going to have you. We got games on TNT. We got games on ABC.
Starting point is 00:20:06 We got games on ESPN. We got these games, and y'all sitting out. No, that ain't going to happen. We're going to stop it. So, okay, we're going to take money out of your pocket. That's the only thing that matters to you. Yeah, but, like, there shouldn't, I don't think there should be a number on it, right?
Starting point is 00:20:26 65 games. There shouldn't be a number. Just make it simple, right? Just make it simple. Totals. I've always believed in totals, right? Yeah, total. Play 65 games.
Starting point is 00:20:39 No, no. Like total points. Like if you're the scoring leader, right? The scoring leader is who has the most points, not who has the highest average. It's too late for that now. No, but that's how it always been, right? Who has the most points overall? When the season ends, if you played 50 games and you averaged 35, right?
Starting point is 00:21:05 I played all 82 games and I averaged 27, and I have more points than you. I am the scoring champ. Right. The scoring champ. The most points is the scoring champ. The most assists is the assist leader. Well, that's how it will look. Baseball's not like that because baseball goes by batting average.
Starting point is 00:21:24 Somebody can have more hits and not be the batting average leader. But in football, it will look. Baseball's not like that because baseball goes by batting average. Somebody can have more hits and not be the batting average leader. But in football, it's numbered. It ain't no, oh, he averaged this many yards. Well, he ain't got the most yards, so he ain't the rushing leader. He don't have the most passing yards or the most receiving yards, but basketball,
Starting point is 00:21:40 but see, that's why basketball and baseball stats are more sacred. Because you know what certain numbers are. I mean, if somebody were to ask, okay, who has the most rushing yards? What's the most rushing yards in NFL history? You might know Emmitt Smith has it, but you don't know how many. You see, if I was talking baseball and I say
Starting point is 00:22:05 56, you know that's a 56 grain hitting streak. That's Joe DiMaggio. If somebody says 300, you know that's a great batting average. Yeah. You don't really know sacred numbers in football. But see, but batting averages,
Starting point is 00:22:22 but see, but the problem with averaging is for you to keep your average you're willing to dodge smoke like oh i'm playing like i'm averaging 35 and i'm playing against joker with a with a sore knee nah i'm not doing that i'm not playing against i'm not gonna play against this great defense with a sore knee i gotta wait till i'm really healthy to play against this knee when it comes sore knee. I got to wait until I'm really healthy to play against this knee. When it comes to totals, and you got somebody who ain't missing no games, and he has more points than you, you got to play.
Starting point is 00:22:52 Yeah, I just don't understand, Gil, because when you look at it, but see someone, I don't know when it happened, but excuse me, guys, all the greats used to play 80 games, 78, 75 games, somewhere along the line.
Starting point is 00:23:08 Greg Popovich started the bull jive. When he started arbitrarily arresting his players. Yeah. I don't know, they called it low management. Greg Popovich started this. Yeah. And now they're like, well, hold on. Popovich doing it.
Starting point is 00:23:21 And look at these guys. They in the playoffs every year. They going deep. They winning championships. Oh, let us start doing it. And look at this guy. They in the playoffs every year. They going deep. They winning championship. Oh, let us start doing it. And it seemed like to me the NBA want to claw some of that back. Okay, so now here's a real issue then.
Starting point is 00:23:35 This is what we got to ask. The question, who is coming with the idea of the load management, right? Is it the players or is it the coaches and the staff, right? Because if it's the coaches and the upper management saying, hey, take today off, boom, boom, boom. Now, that should be infringement on contracts because you're telling me to take the days off so I can miss enough games.
Starting point is 00:24:05 So I missed this 40 million. Right. So now somebody like Hatton Burton, right? He's injured and he's ready to come back and they're like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Hold on. You didn't get cleared yet. Hey, you're going to put that you're going to give me that 40 million. I'm going to lose that. I will lose. Yes. So for them. hell yeah, we want to hold you back so you miss the $40 million. We get to save $40 million on you. So we're not going to clear you. Right? That becomes the problem too.
Starting point is 00:24:37 If it's their idea. Because now when a player has an injury, if the injury is 8 to 12 weeks, that becomes 12 to 16 weeks now. Before, it was 6 to 8 weeks. Right out there. Now, it's going to be a little bit longer because they can creep these games and save their money because these players can't make these All-NBAs. Now, the problem with that is that they don't see the backlash of that. There's going to be non-all NBA talent making all NBA, getting that $40 million. So if Halliburton ain't getting it, that means there's going to be a player that has to sub in form that wouldn't have got it.
Starting point is 00:25:20 He comes to all NBA player. Now you owe him his sorry ass 41 million extra because he's going to be a super max player so it's going to slap you no matter what right yeah and like a guy like
Starting point is 00:25:38 Kawhi now Kawhi has played damn near all the games this year but what about those years in San Antonio? Now, I get that last year he was really hurt. Look what Kawhi was saying now. And he wasn't like,
Starting point is 00:25:51 nah, coach, I'm going to play. He's like, I ain't fighting the coach. I'm not going to play. And then it was a situation where he had his, you know, hey, his uncle Dennis, hey, Kawhi going to play this many games, going to blah, blah, blah.
Starting point is 00:26:02 And they're like, nah, we're going to take some of this stuff back. Well, okay. When we talk about the San Antonio, just from the history of it, we have to really take his side, not Pops at this point. Because whatever his side issue was, it hurt him for three more years. Not like he left and then he was healthy.
Starting point is 00:26:27 He had to be load management and miss back to back games in Toronto. It was still affecting him when he first got here. So we have to really assume that he actually was hurt. I think they were just mad that he got an outside source.
Starting point is 00:26:41 Mm-hm. I think that was really the issue that the outside source had to approve that he's ready to play and they were the guys are the guys playing too much in offseason because it's hard for me to see where guys are playing uh john stockton playing 16 all 15 to 16 all 82 jordan and colby playing nine of the all 82 and Malone playing eight, I mean 10, all 82s. How the hell are those players playing all 82
Starting point is 00:27:11 and these guys right here, you got to beg them to play 65. Because the problem is smart people who thought they were smart gave information and they do not understand an athlete, right? How much are you bench-pressing?
Starting point is 00:27:29 Right now, not a whole lot. I haven't bench-pressed in almost two and a half years. I kind of tweak my pegs, so I just do dumbbells. But I probably could go, give me a month and a half, I probably could do 150 for 10.
Starting point is 00:27:41 But right now, I can do 130 for 10. Okay, you just said it. Give you a month and a half and you can do what? 150 for 10. But right now I can do 130 for 10. Okay, you just said it. Give you a month and a half and you can do what? 150 for 10. 150 for 10. Now what if I tried to make you do 150 now?
Starting point is 00:27:54 I'm going to end up hurting myself. Exactly. The problem is is these guys bodies are deconditioned. Right? They rest so much. They told them, hey, don't do the sand workout. It does this. Don't work out that much in the summer.
Starting point is 00:28:09 Hey, training camp is going to come up. We're not going to live. We're going to do the rubber band stuff. So now you have the muscle mass that looks like it's explosive. When it decides to explode, it doesn't have the strength in it, right? So you got these guys who are resting so much that they are deep conditioned. So when they decide to go and jump, they're hurting something. They're hurting something versus the guys who are sitting there lifting every day.
Starting point is 00:28:39 They're running, they're playing, and their bodies is used to actually going through this stuff. I'm playing 48 minutes. I'm out there running the beach. I'm out there doing the Western Am. When you go out there and play, your body is used to all kinds of tweaks. These guys are not. They have the most rest, but has the
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Starting point is 00:31:59 You guys have seen me actually upload footage of me doing three-fifth. What did I do? I did four-five for triples. I was doing 365 for eight reps. For God's sake. Some of y'all in the chat, y'all guys stayed
Starting point is 00:32:16 in the same home room all day long. Ain't nothing alien. Hey, this is how I know some of y'all had two recesses and two naps god dang
Starting point is 00:32:29 I'm not even gonna lie to you I couldn't fan them the 75 you were talking about let alone the 150 like those are the ways you look like who the fuck is grabbing that like I go to the gym and I'm the only one I've never seen.
Starting point is 00:32:46 I think I might've seen in my seven years at this gym that I go to. I think I might've seen somebody take the dump to 120s. Now at the gym that I go to in Atlanta, they go up to 130. Now, if I wanted to go upwards of that, I probably have to go to Gold's gym in Venice.
Starting point is 00:33:02 I think they go to like 240, 260. But when I was like playing, I could go to like 170 for six. 170, 170. But only two people have ever done those 170s, me and Ronnie Coleman. Ronnie Coleman was eight-time Mr. Olympia. He did the 180s.
Starting point is 00:33:28 But I'm the only other person, other than him, to ever do the 170s. And I remember Rope Man, who was my trainer. And I felt good, because when I was really, really into it, Gil, I would warm up and I would start with the 140s.
Starting point is 00:33:44 So we would do 140 for 10. We would do, I'd do 140 for 10, 150 for 8, 160 for 8, and then that day I was like, Rope, I feel really good. He's like, dog. He always called me dog. I called him, I said, Rope.
Starting point is 00:34:00 I said, Rope, I feel good today, Rope. I think I can do it. So I hit the 170s and I was like, damn. I said, Rope, I feel good today, Rope. I think I can do it. So I hit the 170s, and I was like, damn. I said, damn, Rope, that felt easy. He said, dog, go ahead and do it, dog. Do it, dog. And I thought about it. I said, I'll get him next week.
Starting point is 00:34:15 I'll get him next week. He said, dog, I'm telling you, you can do him. And I never touched him, and I never even attempted again. That's the only regret that I really have because I could then lift 600 pounds. I could do, I mean, in my prime, I could do four or five for like six or seven reps. I could do 315 for about 18 reps. So I was like really, really strong when I was like doing it. I stopped squatting.
Starting point is 00:34:44 When I was in college, I could squat like 580, which was, you know, I was like doing it. I stopped squatting. When I was in college, I could squat like 580, which was, you know, I was like, you know what? I think I'm going to get to 600 and then I'm going to stop. And I remember my brother telling me,
Starting point is 00:34:53 so you're going to lift your weight into a three point stand. I said, no, man. He said, bro, I'm telling you, ain't no wide receiver in the NFL benching 500 pounds, squatting 600 pounds. Because at that point in time,
Starting point is 00:35:04 I said, I'm going to be the first four or six guy. A wide receiver that can bench 400, squat 600. pounds. Because at that point in time, I said, I'm going to be the first 4'6 guy, a wide receiver that can bench 400, squat 600. He said, what you're going to do is lift yourself into a three-point stance. I bet, damn, if I ain't lift myself into a three-point stance, it'll go from a wide receiver to a tight end. But at that point in time, that's the only regret, Gil, of anything that I've done as far as athletically was not doing those 180s.
Starting point is 00:35:24 Because I know I'll never be able to do it again because I'm not going to. I'm not going to. I'm 55. I don't need I don't need to do 180s. But I know give me a month and a half to get back into a groove because I kind of been hit or miss. I've been making myself go. I even went to the gym today on a Wednesday, which is the first time I've gone to the gym on a Wednesday since I've been in L.A. But I got to get back into a schedule But I got to get back into a schedule. I got to get back into a routine. And so that's what I've been able to do. So give me a month and a half.
Starting point is 00:35:51 I'll be able to do 150s for 10. You got all the muscles. What you need? You need to go in the gym every day for. Okay, I'm sorry. When I was 19, I had 35s on both sides. At 42, I done graduated. What you got?
Starting point is 00:36:11 35s on both sides, just a different color. What is wrong with y'all? If I want to get tired, I don't go up in weight. I just do a little bit more of the same weight. Nah, I just- I don't even know if I can do 40s. 35 is my max. I go straight to, hey, sweetheart,
Starting point is 00:36:30 what you going to do with those? You going to squat? I need those. And whatever I'm going to do right here, whatever I'm going to lift, 35s is it. After that, they hurt. They hurt. They hurt. And that's the thing. So I don't lift, I don't really lift heavy like that anymore.
Starting point is 00:36:47 I just got to the point where I'm like, man, I'm 55, about to be 56. Why the hell I need to be 255 and all that stuff? So I'm about to come on down. I'm about to come down to about two. I'm going to come down to like 242, and I'm going to stay to get it 242. I'm like 255 right now. Come work out with me, young. Not here, though. I ain't going to get nothing. I ain out with me, young. Nah, hell nah.
Starting point is 00:37:05 I ain't getting nothing. I ain't getting nothing. First of all, we're going to spend the first hour just booty watching. Right? I got to get you acclimated with all the young things in there. Right? Hey, you got them girls in there with them giddy girls on? Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:18 Stay away from that. I got that one. I did that one. I did both of them at the same time. And then once we. Yeah, once we. But see, them at the same time, right? And then once we... Yeah, once we... But see, here's the thing, though, Gil. I got to have some kind of weight to me
Starting point is 00:37:30 because I can't have dudes walking up on me thinking they're going to punk me because there ain't no punk in Shamrock. No, see, I ain't got those problems, though. No, I don't. So I ain't... Listen, I'm 35. Ain't nobody...
Starting point is 00:37:42 Look, if I'm sitting down, ain't nobody coming to stand up over me. That ain't going to happen. So that's why, hey, that's why I stay to myself. I go to my little place, my little off the wall places. I stay to myself. Hey, that ain't going to happen. We've seen you with the Grigio.
Starting point is 00:37:58 Like, trust me, we know. Me, the only person that I felt comfortable with was probably T oh I can get him right the rest of them they look athletic T oh I can get him the rest of y'all yeah I'm gonna shut the fuck up back here
Starting point is 00:38:16 but you know he and I had a great conversation after the thing he's like man I ain't mean no harm I said bro all I know is I heard what you said and I and when I whirled around, at that point in time, now I'm on one. At that point in time,
Starting point is 00:38:31 honestly, when people say they black out, I believe them. Because at that point in time, I completely forgot I was at the game. At that point in time, I'm at a cookout, I'm at a bar, I'm at something, and I'm not even looking at them. I'm not even looking at them. All I know, I say,
Starting point is 00:38:48 if one guy step over that line, it's over. Ooh, Lord. Man, you scared us. I said, bro, I'm saying, I don't know where y'all from. I say, maybe y'all wired like that, so if somebody big, you get scared. I said, bro, I ain't like that. I said, I hate that I put myself
Starting point is 00:39:04 in that situation, but Gil, when I say I blacked out, I ain't like that. I said, I hate that I put myself in that situation. But Gil, when I say I blacked out, I honestly did. I forgot that I was at a game. It wasn't until I got back because the security took me back in the hallway and they was talking to me. And I could hear them talking, but I I'm still I'm highly agitated so at that point and I remember just like there's like hey hey hey um you good you good you good and I'm thinking to myself why y'all asking me am I good so I'm like as I'm calming down I'm like oh man I said oh man I said man I done messed up I said my sister gonna. I said, my sister gonna see this.
Starting point is 00:39:45 I said, my brother gonna see this. My kids gonna see this. I said, man, at that point in time, I mean, the job, it is what it is. If they and Fox wanna move in a different direction, they gotta do what they gotta do. At that point in time, the only thing I'm thinking about, my sister, my brother, and my kids.
Starting point is 00:40:02 I said, they gonna see this. And I said, oh man, I said, oh my God. And I remember looking down at my phone and my kids i said they're gonna see this and i said oh man i said that oh my god and i remember looking down on my phone and training everything is just like i said man shannon you done messed up now at that point in time gill ain't nothing i could do so if fox come in and say we want to go in another go in another direction which we ended up doing six months later. It is what it is. Hey, I'm wrong. I'm dead ass. So I was wrong.
Starting point is 00:40:29 I handled it poorly. And like I said, and I apologize to the Grizzlies and Dylan Brooks because it shouldn't have got that way. You know, I just said what I said. I mean, I didn't think it was that bad, but okay, I get it. I get it. I'm a fan. You know, I'm trash talking, going back and forth. But I but i was wrong i was wrong i should have just sat my ass down and that's what
Starting point is 00:40:50 i do now i go to the game hey hey bro how you doing they like hey uh i leave it i leave it alone but hey gail like i said when people say they black out i believe them them. Gil, I completely forgot. I could, honestly, I couldn't hear anything. It was like I was at a game and like in the fourth quarter and I need to make a play and everything is hush. Every football moment, Gil, everything was calm. I couldn't, all those fans, I couldn't hear a thing. calm. All those fans, I couldn't hear a thing.
Starting point is 00:41:25 And then all of a sudden, I heard guys talking. I could hear John talking at that point in time and everybody came running. And then I'm like, boy, I ain't got nobody with me that's going to squabble.
Starting point is 00:41:42 I said, boy, I'd give anything to have my boy. If I had Burns,. I said, boy, I'd give anything to have my boy. If I had Burns, if I had Bucket, I'd be good right about now. I said, I'm by myself. I said, oh, well, it is what it is. I said, but boy. By that time, I hear T.
Starting point is 00:41:57 I was like, bro, y'all not going to do nothing. Y'all doing all that talking ain't going to do nothing. Then T says, I will. Who said that? Everybody's like, who said that? So man, and so after I done calmed down, we came out there. He said, man, let me talk. He said, let me talk to you. I said, man, what's up,
Starting point is 00:42:14 T? He said, bro. I said, what we doing? I said, bro, I don't know what we doing. I said, but bro, I'm glad you came and talked to me because you grown, I'm grown. I'm glad we came and talked to me because you're grown. I'm grown. I'm glad we handled the situation. I said, bro, you can't say you're going to.
Starting point is 00:42:31 And when I'm in that state, you can't say you're going to do something because I'm going to need to see it. I mean, it is what it is. I'm going to have to see it. I think you need to put those 170s down. No, no, no, no, no. No, Gil. Gil, real talk.
Starting point is 00:42:48 Had I been in the league, oh. And that's what I'm saying. When you at 35, you ain't got to worry about none of that. I can tell you this. I've never Jay-Z'd. I never blacked out, ever. Right? I can tell you this.
Starting point is 00:43:02 If shit gets a-popping, I got to know where to run. Hey, I'm not even lying. Somebody sent me a DM and said, I remember talking to you in the mall. Yeah, I was talking to you in the mall, and a fight broke out, and you bounced and left the mall. Yeah, that's me. God damn it.
Starting point is 00:43:22 Yeah, I'm out of there. My feet work. Very well. No, Gil, for the most part, Gil, I've never really been a fighter. I've always tried to defuse the situation. Like when I was in college, I was the guy, look, I've always been the leader.
Starting point is 00:43:35 And so I've always, you know, I've always tried to get my, keep my guys under control, even on the team. And I know guys more times than not, the guys on the team, they're probably going to be able to eat, beat the college average college dude. Not always,
Starting point is 00:43:49 but for the most part, but I know how my guys are. So if one of them fighting and they losing, they're going to jump in. Yeah. And so for me, I always try to defuse a situation. Like even if I saw one of my teammates talking to a young lady and I know she had a boyfriend, I'm like, bro, let that go, man.
Starting point is 00:44:08 Yeah. Man, bro, let that go. I say because if somebody was talking to your girl, you'd feel some type of way. I know you. So let it go. Give that man his respect. You know, we at the game.
Starting point is 00:44:20 You know, we at somewhere. We're not going to do that. We're going to be respectful. Now, hey, if they break up, but know, we at somewhere, we're not going to do that. We're going to be respectful. Now, hey, if they break up, but nah, bro, just because you on a football team and you this, you that, let that go. We don't need that. We don't need them kind of problems because if something go down, T5, we're going to ride.
Starting point is 00:44:39 Ain't nobody finna ride. Ain't nobody on the yard, not the campus, not the cues, not nobody, not the basketball team, the baseball team, no other team gonna mess with us. We knew that. Yeah. So let's just, hey, we gotta keep the peace, bro. We got to go to school here. And I don't want to be having to look over my back.
Starting point is 00:44:56 You know, even when the guys came out the city, there's a situation where guys came out the city. Well, hell, I'm, you know me, I got a whip, Gil. So I'm all at the car wash. I'm on 37th and Bull. I'm all over. I'm at the barbershop. I'm you know me I got a whip Gil so I'm all at the car wash I'm on 37th and Bull I'm all over I'm at the barbershop I'm on the west side bro they catch me sniffing because
Starting point is 00:45:12 of some foolishness that y'all did nah bro we're not finna do that so I've always been a guy to keep the peace now hey I'm gonna try to say hey bro hey let that go man you know sometimes guys like man man, forget that. You know, he's saying this.
Starting point is 00:45:28 Hey, bro, bro, I'm trying to. Hey, if I turn this pit bull loose, he go. So that's how I am, Gil. Now, as I got older, like I said, man, that was honestly in my. That might be one of the worst moments of my life because I put myself in a situation I should have never been in. Because once he said what he said, I should have let it go. But you know,
Starting point is 00:45:50 I'd be like, oh, shit. Yeah. I never got to worry about that. Trust me, God damn it. Nah. Just hang out with us. Hang out with me, young boy. We'll be, listen,
Starting point is 00:46:04 we'll be running together. Now, come on. We got, come be, listen, we'll be running together. Now, come on. Come on. I'll be pushing you. I ain't going to lie, Gil. I ain't got too old to run. The Eps ain't going to let me run. Then we can walk real fast.
Starting point is 00:46:14 Hey, Gil, we got to make a stand. We got to make a stand, Gil. We got to be, hey, hey. Make a stand. I'm the first one to get hit. Always go for the weak one to get hit. Always go for the weak link. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:29 That's what I'm telling you guys. That's what I'm trying to tell you. I put myself, as old as I am, that's the first time I hadn't been, I mean, I hadn't even been in an argument probably since had to be in my early 30s I got into with a guy at the barbershop
Starting point is 00:46:46 because he was talking some stuff that he shouldn't have been talking. And that was the only time I said, bro, I said, if somebody want to know something about me in here, they can ask me. They don't need you repeating what happened at Savannah State, bro. Man, I said, all I'm saying is, hey,
Starting point is 00:47:02 keep me and my kids out your mouth. That's all you got to do. I'm done with it. I said, bro, you ain't finna talk to me to death now. What you want to do? It's simple as that. If you're not finna talk to me to death, what you want to do? I hope he said, well, shit, I was planning to talk to you to death because I ain't got no.
Starting point is 00:47:24 Nah, he left and didn't come back. Smart man. See? I don't think he ever came back to the barbershop. Hell nah! There's a bit of a loop in that barbershop. I'm going to the one around the corner. Nah, but like I said,
Starting point is 00:47:41 he said some stuff about my kid. I don't play about my kid. First of all, it ain, he said some stuff about my kid. I don't play about my kid. First of all, ain't none of your business about my kid. So I just like, hey, let that ride. On the fifth day of the on-gun feud, Nikki invoked Rihanna to claim that Megan tried to force sympathy on herself as a victim of violence. She also refuted that she encouraged her fans to approach or desecrate the gravesite of Megan's late mother. Nikki speculated that Megan's management company, Rock Nation, has launched a smear campaign against her and accused Megan of seeking sympathy and controversy to boost her career. It's so obvious she wanted a Rihanna moment so bad, referencing the Chris Brown 2009 assault on Rihanna in which her interview with ABC right after.
Starting point is 00:48:30 In April 2022, Megan discussed being shot by rapper Tory Lane. Nearly two years prior, with Gayle King on CBS Morning, Nikki implied that Meg Thee Stallion can't succeed without provoking her. What's your thought? Have you heard the beef? One cow, Nikki came out with Bigfoot. I guess it's in response to Megan's hiss.
Starting point is 00:48:56 So I, so what's, what's your take on, what's your, what's your, what's your take on that? When it comes to just female, just female rap as,
Starting point is 00:49:08 as a whole i don't like the industry because there's only three or four and the fact that there's only three or four wives are always beefing why do everyone want to create a beer with the three or four like i i came up with the missy elliott era where where they had songs Night, where you had all the greats get on there and they put great music. So the fact that all the rap women are beefing or they're linking up the beef kind of just stops you from wanting to just be a fan of female rap. just be a fan of female rap. Mm-hm. Right? So because of like,
Starting point is 00:49:49 let me know when Cardi B, Nicki, and Megan Thee Stallion get on a song together and put some great music in. Right? Yeah, but the fact that it's only three or four of y'all and the four of y'all is all beefing, I'm cool on the situation, right?
Starting point is 00:50:06 They're gonna have ins and out on each other and from there, we're just gonna be listening to just listen, right? At the end of the day, we don't care. No, man, we don't care. I mean, this big foot,
Starting point is 00:50:22 little foot, right? I mean, she's sick. Yeah, yeah, but she's I mean, she's six. Oh, yeah, yeah. But she's stacked up, though. No facts. I wouldn't mind. Man, hey. Listen,
Starting point is 00:50:37 like... Last time I seen something stacked like that was a long time ago. I was in the library to add books. It was summer. It was stacked up. The one you the library to add books. It was summer. It was stacked up. The one you're supposed to get and read for the summer. I'd rather them make music together than beef. That's how I look.
Starting point is 00:50:58 Yeah, I agree with you. I don't even like the guys beefing. I mean, look, I understand. I mean, you know what? I think, look, I go back when LL and Moe D dropped a diss track, and then you
Starting point is 00:51:14 got Ether, and you got No Vaseline, and you got, I think, KR is one. Him and Boogie Down Production, they dropped one. LL had another one with Cannabis. Yeah. I mean, I can do without it.
Starting point is 00:51:31 I mean, I get it. But as a musician, it's just like sometimes in the NBA, right? We wish we'd seen certain matchups. We wish we'd seen Kobe versus LeBron in the championship, right? The history, we didn't get to see that history, right? Prince and Michael Jackson doing some type of collaboration, right?
Starting point is 00:51:56 There's just music that these greats, because they're beefing, we as fans get them, we miss out on it, because some of the best artists when they collab, shit is fine. Yeah, and y'all can't get mad if somebody else comes to the table and starts hating on them because they knew.
Starting point is 00:52:14 I mean, I'm like, damn, let them get this bread. Look, there's enough money out here for all of us to make. No matter what genre, no matter what field that you're in, if you're an actor, you're an entertainer, you're a rapper, you whatever the case may be, you in podcast, enough money for everybody. And I don't have to talk about you to bolster my career. I mean, I don't get anything out of that.
Starting point is 00:52:40 It's the female rap, man. It's just something about like they just want to keep the beef alive. And, you know what I mean? I'm like, the Missy Elliott is where I, like, where's that? Where's that connection? Like, you know, it ain't it. Thoughts on the rumored relationship
Starting point is 00:52:59 between Dre Michelle and Jalen Green. Joe Budden called her a predator. I don't know, Listen, for me personally, I don't know a whole lot about her. I mean, I know she dated, what's the guy from the Cowboys? Oh, Orlando Skandrick. I think they have a child together.
Starting point is 00:53:20 But that's about the extent of what I know about her. I ain't into that kind of, I don't really go that deep into it. Ah, damn, Gil, why you up there got a stone? Ah, damn. Ah, this is both of them. No, stop.
Starting point is 00:53:38 Man, Gil. Gil, this man set up his stone face out here talking so you know a lot about him. Hey, this is your research, Chief. I'm researching. I'm over here thinking, man, yeah, you know. Hold on, this ain't Megaworld size. Hey, they up here talking about Megan Ware size man 13.
Starting point is 00:54:06 I don't care if she got a 15. I'll take them here. I'll take the bro. If she wear teals, I'll take a round of them off her. I know a little something, something, something. No. So what's going on?
Starting point is 00:54:21 What's your look? Me personally do 21. I mean, we all have. I look age about 40 ain't old no 40 is not old but hey when you 19 like your boy was hey idiot what it is you know she's gonna throw when she's 39 right 39 yeah yeah just 39 okay 39 ain't nothing wrong with that. The real problem for a lot of women who's, you know, that's dated very successful men with money, right? When nobody their age wants them anymore, because they don't have a wife, they married, they done did this. The only way you survive is to go backwards, because the only people that's going to take you serious is
Starting point is 00:55:14 someone who don't know you or someone that idolizes you. So some of these older women that has names that are famous, right? The men in their age group know them, we famous, right? The men in their age group know them. We could, right? The young people who's looking through the magazines, like, oh,
Starting point is 00:55:32 it is you. They appreciate that woman. So yeah, it might look sideways, especially if it was man, the older, the man is older and the woman younger. Yeah, that'll look frowned upon. I mean, the real question is, what the fuck
Starting point is 00:55:48 are y'all talking about? 39 and 21, but I'm sure that, you know, hey, you know, do what we gonna do. But for the most part, like, those women really ain't got no outsource, in a sense. Nobody their age wants them,
Starting point is 00:56:04 so it's the people that's going to make them feel like they're wanted will be the younger generation of men. That's why some of these older women are coming back. Coming back and like, hey, young fella, be in the club.
Starting point is 00:56:19 You want a PlayStation? Yeah, yeah. I got a little Xbox, little Xbox, little Xbox. Customs for you. Right. But look, at this point in time, I'm sure they know who she is.
Starting point is 00:56:34 I'm sure even if you're 21, you probably know some of the guys that she's been with. And that's not a knock. Because if you're a professional athlete, women might not know all the women because it's not, you know,
Starting point is 00:56:49 because like, I mean, for this topic, I looked and saw that she had dated. I was like, well, damn. But guys are a little bit more secretive. And so a lot of the people that, I don't know if you want to call it date, you know, smash and dash or whatever the case may be, guys try to keep that stuff on the hush.
Starting point is 00:57:08 But when you're a female, it's kind of hard because the word's going to get around because guys talk. Guys have turned into broad these days. Because when I grew up, that thing was hush. You ain't kiss and tell. You didn't know. I mean, but now, bro, why I care? Man, you know, hey, man, you know I mean but now bro why I care man you know hey man you know I used to okay bro
Starting point is 00:57:29 you ain't messing with the nice you with me now so that's the athlete that's the young young kids now like shit there was girls that I know that they got three or four dudes on the same team flow flow eight flow three,
Starting point is 00:57:46 flow 12, right? And that's just the facts. But these young generation kids, just like when we was young, right? We're looking at these women like in his world, this is probably one of the finest women that he's ever seen. Right?
Starting point is 00:58:06 So, to him, the pants don't matter. Hey, Gale, I don't know about you, but I'm just trying to find one of the more jet centerfolds that I used to have stapled to my wall in college. And I know they're probably about 70, but let me catch one slipping. Listen, we used to be in there like, hey, that's Pinky at the game. Pinky from the four in the L.A.? Shit, I'm going to go ahead and take a, that's Pinky at the game. Pinky from the board? Hell yeah. Shit, I'm going to go ahead and take a shot at it. We don't care.
Starting point is 00:58:29 Yeah. We don't care. Like, you know what I mean? We don't care, man. Right. And that's where he's at. Like, at the end of the day, it's like, I'm pretty sure whatever she's doing,
Starting point is 00:58:40 them 21-year-olds his age ain't doing. And that's her advantage. Right? Because she's happy to be there. Right? She knows she's been there before. She knows how to play her role. She knows how to, like, make him feel like a man and make him feel important versus a girl his age.
Starting point is 00:58:58 Right. Think it's about her. Yeah. Yeah. And the thing is, is like a female, it's kind of hard for a female to be with an athlete and ever go back to a common guy. It's not and I don't mean common, I'm saying, but once you get to that lifestyle of being and being able to go places that that guys that work nine to five or that's not a professional athlete. So don't take this the wrong way. I don't mean common. But what I mean, if you're a professional athlete, you have access to things that guys that work nine to five, that's not professional athletes. That's not a celebrity.
Starting point is 00:59:38 That's not an entertainer. Doesn't have access to. So once a female is gotten accustomed to that or been in that, it's hard. That's why, man, she was with such and such. She was with this rapper. She was with this NBA player. Where does she go?
Starting point is 00:59:55 Because she's gotten accustomed to dating a guy that can give her a lifestyle. So she needs that lifestyle. It ain't even that she needs it. She's going to get the offer in it. No, she's going to get the offer in it. For sure. What is the Harvey?
Starting point is 01:00:16 What's her name? Lauren Harvey. Right. We know who she dated, right? She can walk into any locker room and say, hey, man, who want to date? Who want to date me? Go to all 30 locker rooms. You're going to have five to nine dudes raise their hand. Yeah. Her women like that, that look like that.
Starting point is 01:00:39 They options are limitless long as they look good because the younger generation looks at them like idols. The people their age is like, nah, we good on that. Somebody who's younger, that's like, oh my God, that's her. I want her, I got the money, let me go ahead and take my shot. So women like that are gonna always put themselves in position to find younger men, right? If you wanna call it predator, because they will do that to us. They will do that to us. But in reality, there's not one man in here
Starting point is 01:01:13 that's young that won't take an older woman. It is different. Older women treat you well. The older women seems creepy. That's just, I guess, that's how it looks. Look, I mean, look,
Starting point is 01:01:26 it's not a situation I can see if she's 35 and she got a 13-year-old. She's a 16-year-old. Man, do a 21. Do know what he doing. You know what he doing, Gil. You know what he want. I mean, even at 19, I knew what I
Starting point is 01:01:42 was doing. And I knew her age. And I thought it was kind of cool you on a young shit you just got to be careful on your wordage you know you can't say ma'am there's just certain shit you just
Starting point is 01:01:57 can't say you know being young and she older you know what I mean I call a miss I was calling a miss I couldn't have it I couldn't have it. I couldn't. I mean, Gil, I'm from the South. And so a lady that's older than you,
Starting point is 01:02:14 I don't care if it's only three, four years. Yes, ma'am. Miss. Yeah. So I feel kind of good. Yeah, yeah, that's kind of good. I like that. Oh, man. You got a feeling all bad in here. You know, you would feel it all bad.
Starting point is 01:02:26 You know, you won't be long, man. When I say she old hook. Ah, she loved it. Hey miss. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:33 They say it again. Okay. Okay. Yeah. Leo. They say bitch. Cut. Start.
Starting point is 01:02:44 Yo, get them beat A, D. Damn. Shit. Man, what's wrong with him, man? I hate when people make it real difficult. So I'm going to go I mean, he got his daddy legs this week. So I'm going to go... I mean, he got his daddy legs this week.
Starting point is 01:03:06 So I'm going to go Embiid. I'm going to go Embiid. I'm going to start Embiid. I'm going to bench Jokic. I'm going to cut AD. Yeah, I'm going to start Jokic. Embiid, he's got stomach issue or he's got knee issue. I'm going to bench Emboke and bead. He's got stomach issue or he got knee issue.
Starting point is 01:03:26 I'm going to bench and bead AD. I mean, that was, I mean, you got to, you got to like make it Luca. You know, you got to make it somebody, you got to make it somebody really, really difficult. You got to make it Luca. Make it Jason Tatum.
Starting point is 01:03:42 Yeah. Somebody like that. Florian Carlos Suba said, Aunt Gil Wilbon versus Stephen A., Ocho, and McCants. Three on three basketball. No make it, take it. First to 21, who wins? Me, you, and Ocho?
Starting point is 01:04:01 Me, you, and Ocho? No, it's me, you, and Wilbon versus Stephen A., Ocho me you and Ocho no it's me you and Wilborn versus Stephen A Ocho and McCann alright look you got McCann I got Stephen A Smith we gonna let Ocho
Starting point is 01:04:15 just get dizzy out there trying to use his speed man I whoo man y'all need to cut that down to like first to five cause we ain't gonna ever get to 21
Starting point is 01:04:24 now listen if you said if y'all set to cut that down to like first to five because we ain't gonna ever get to 21 listen if y'all set some screens get your boy open oh yeah we can do that oh we can do that ain't no running down I'm thinking about my old shooting before I did that 12 to 25 yeah we gotta cut that down
Starting point is 01:04:44 make it to seven make it to seven make it to seven you gotta deal that is senior night I ain't play all year and they calling my name to get in the game that's how I feel right now Dr. Frankie L. Bellamy said hey Gil if you could pick any NBA player
Starting point is 01:04:59 past or present to be your teammate for a two on two street basketball game who would it be your teammate for a two-on-two street basketball game, who would it be and why? Two-on-two street basketball game. Ooh, I would go with... Man, you're taking Jordan to Kobe.
Starting point is 01:05:29 Man, stop over there like you pondering. Street basketball? Yeah. You're right. I'm going to take just... You're right. I might take James Harden in that style. Or Kyrie. Or Jordan to Kobe?
Starting point is 01:05:44 And Street, but are we just playing street basketball or we got to do the tricks and stuff or are we just playing regular basketball? You're playing blacktop basketball like we grew up playing. Yeah, I just want to say Shaq, but I'll take Jordan. What about KD?
Starting point is 01:06:04 Them outside rims, man. I know he's a sniper, but are we playing on double rims? Are we playing with the chain fit? It becomes a thing. Right. Asador D said, can we say Doc is
Starting point is 01:06:19 NBA version of Mike McCarthy? Both won one ring years ago, but can't get past the second round of the playoffs. I mean, it's facts, man. I mean, it's facts. Like, I had to really look. Like, look, when people say, why is Doc where he is? Doc has done something that a lot of people just don't do.
Starting point is 01:06:41 He's made connections. He's made connections. Mm-hm. He's made friends. He's understood the survival by friendship. Yes. By connecting himself with people who are important, people who have connections.
Starting point is 01:06:57 So when he's trying to go places and get places, he can call in favors and friends. Right, can't knock him for that, right? I want to be in situations like that. So when we question his resume,
Starting point is 01:07:12 his real resume is his friendship. And for some people, that's what matters. The loyalty that he has with his friends, and they're paying back that. So yeah, we're going to kill him for his resume. It's his resume that's behind the scenes that he has.
Starting point is 01:07:34 Somebody in the chat said they're going to take Kyrie in a street basketball. Yeah, man, he got that street game. He got that street game. He got that street game. He got that street game. Please explain to me why Doc River has a job and a choke more than Miss Nasty B with all them diamonds.
Starting point is 01:07:56 I mean, Gil just told you. Gil said he's made connections. And like I've met Doc, I mean, like I said, I don't really know the intricacies of what goes on behind the scenes, so I'm going to take Gil. Gil knows all that.
Starting point is 01:08:08 But he's engaging. He has a conversation. He knows the game of basketball, and he's an easy talker. He can talk, and he's very relatable, very personable, make you feel like you've known him your whole life. I guess when we're talking about friendships, when we're talking about just life,
Starting point is 01:08:30 who we know, our friendship is better than our resume that we have. Right. When we make people feel good about themselves, they're willing to put us in positions with the power that they have and that's that's what doc so i'm expecting his son to be in position at some point to to get a chance to coach too wow
Starting point is 01:08:57 uh we're gonna take a few more questions my boss is uncoached jay my boss is pushing me at work to be a leader be in a leader position. I'm honored, but I don't think I'm a leader. He says, when I speak, people listen, but I don't know. Could you give me some advice on how to navigate any and deal with it? Well, clearly your boss sees something that you don't. And that's not an easy thing to do is to be a leader, especially, I mean, it's a lot easier when you're younger because, you know, kids are impressionable.
Starting point is 01:09:32 And, and, but now as adults, adults can make up their own mind. But that's really hard to say. That's something that, I mean, I don't really know the people that you're around, but for your boss to have that kind of confidence in you, that should tell you something. Yeah. Like, you know, leadership is not about, like, dictatorship. You know, real leaders are bringing the best out of everybody that they're leading, right? So, you know, he feels that you probably can talk to people. They listen.
Starting point is 01:10:06 They respect you. And to be in that position, you just have to understand when to push the envelope, when to back it off, right? So your job is basically to put everybody in a great position to be successful. That's what it is. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:24 You got to know how to talk because everybody's not motivated by the same tactics. Like I would always say some guys, you got a pat on the back. Some guys, you got to kick in the butt. Some guys, you got to tell a joke.
Starting point is 01:10:34 Hey man, man, my grandma could have called that one. I'll be, come on, bro. Hey bro. Hey,
Starting point is 01:10:40 we all out here. You getting paid too. Now you got to check too. Yep. Yep. Yep. So that, that's the thing is just understanding how to talk to people and talk to
Starting point is 01:10:52 people in a different type of way. Uh, Anthony boat. Yo, does, does your Charlie Brown shirt have a man? That's loose. That's like, In the piano?
Starting point is 01:11:05 That's Latin. What kind of unit? No. That's his real hair. He ain't got no man unit on it. I mean, that's his real hair. Man, y'all know that man ain't got no man. Y'all keep the bull job going.
Starting point is 01:11:24 Y'all keep the bull job going. Y'all keeps a boo job going. Mr. Jock, what's up, 84 and Gil? If guys had to get rid of one holiday, and it's between Valentine's Day and Halloween, which one would you choose and why? Both involve candy and being with loved ones. Man, Halloween don't involve being with no loved one unless you got kids. Halloween for kids. But y' Halloween don't involve being with no loved one unless you got kids. Halloween for kids.
Starting point is 01:11:46 But y'all done hijacked the holiday. How many times y'all, man, we got a Halloween party, man. I got this Halloween thing going on. Grown folks done hijacked the holiday. Now, they're not going trick-or-treating, but they're dressing up more than the kids. Oh, that's right.
Starting point is 01:12:03 And they're thinking about their costume. I guarantee you, people are already thinking about their 2024 costume. They're looking to see what's the hottest. Ooh, I will be this. I will be this. Now, that's for real. But I'm going to get rid of Valentine's.
Starting point is 01:12:19 Hell yeah. Valentine's. Because you agree. Because, you know, we're going't spend money to get nothing in value. Yeah. Like, we didn't get nothing. Yeah. I'm sorry. If you broke and you can't get me what you need, like what you can afford, you got a friend, right?
Starting point is 01:12:41 You got two friends? Gone. Oh, you need to buy the luxury up cause men first of all men get the short end of the stick on valentine's day cause contrary to what y'all think women that hoo-ha ain't worth 15 grand it ain't worth
Starting point is 01:12:56 10 grand it ain't worth 20 grand so I don't know who told you that it was it's not no so you getting guys that that you know they laying out three Birkins or they buying you a whip or, you know, they got flowers coming from Beverly Hills all the way up to Malibu. And then they got a $25 a night room.
Starting point is 01:13:23 Yeah, we the guy. You know what? Now that I think about it, Gil, we get the short and the stick on every damn holiday. Mother's Day, the mothers get way more than the fathers. For Christmas, the mothers get way, the woman get way more
Starting point is 01:13:40 than the man. Valentine's Day, they get way more than the man. When we go get a holiday, then we get to get one up. No, Day, they get way more than the man. When we gonna get a holiday that we get to get one up? No, no, no. We do, we don't, it's not a holiday. We've been playing,
Starting point is 01:13:52 you know how, you know how your girl bring her friends? Yeah. And she expect you to pay? Pay what? Pay over a month? You better get the hell
Starting point is 01:14:02 up out of here. You better get out of your home. No, no, no. You pay. She got 12 friends? That's 12 dates. I've been very fortunate, Gil,
Starting point is 01:14:16 that the women that I date is just like her and I when we go out. I think I've actually only been out with a date with a young lady and her friends ended up like, my friends are here, you mind if we go there? Probably since I've been dating
Starting point is 01:14:34 30, 38 years, maybe two or three times. You need to hang out with me. No, I don't. Now we're here, you hang out with me. I don't. Now we hear you paying for 12 people. I don't. Oh, no, because that's 12 girls.
Starting point is 01:14:50 I'm getting all 12 numbers. All 12. Hey, y'all see how I pay? I laid this out, huh? Y'all laid this out. They auditioning. They auditioning. Sorry, baby.
Starting point is 01:15:06 You want me to pay for them? They owe me. That's how we gonna do this. You don't want me to, hey, they see what I did for you. They don't want the same thing. They don't want the same thing. I'm gonna entertain it. I'm gonna entertain it. I don't even know how to talk to them like that.
Starting point is 01:15:22 Oh, easy. Easy, huh? You got the money. Sometimes you just say the shit that come up. I just say shit to see if it flies. Man, Gil, I remember one time I was at Denver. I was talking to this one chick, and her girlfriend gave me her number.
Starting point is 01:15:39 I threw that in the trash. I said, oh, hell no. I ain't fit to start dancing. I don't do friends. I'm good on that one. No start there. I don't do friends. I'm good on that one. No, man, I don't do that. Oh, that's the South. Oh, that's the South.
Starting point is 01:15:52 Friends and friends. Nah, I'm good. Come on, I can't in good conscience, so I'm cool with it. And I know I've been in situations where friends, they fill out and they know I've been in situations where friend they fell out and they know I used to talk to one
Starting point is 01:16:08 what you doing you know she wasn't baby I ain't like that baby I ain't done come on now whatever y'all got going on you got me thinking that I'm out here looking like a bad dude you ain't no bad dude I'm just saying I'm the here looking like a bad dude, huh? You ain't no bad dude. You just on, Gil.
Starting point is 01:16:25 I'm just saying, look, I'm the type of dude that if I'm cheating on my girl and she walk in, I'm not stopping. Huh? No. She gonna walk in, Gil. I mean, she got a key. She know where you be.
Starting point is 01:16:43 I'm in her house or whatever. She walked in. I'm going to finish because, look, my got a key. She know where you be. I'm in her house or whatever. She walked in. I'm going to finish because, look, my brain already processed. You walked in and you run out. I already lost you, right? Right. Now, if I get up and I run after you, what's she going to think? Damn.
Starting point is 01:16:59 So, no, I'm going to finish. I'm going to keep going. Oh, Lord have mercy. I'm not losing more for the same mistake. I'm keeping the one I'm going to finish. I'm going to keep one. I'm not losing both with the same mistake. I'm keeping the one I'm with. So I'm just going to go ahead and finish. I'm the type of guy I am. I need some more water on this one.
Starting point is 01:17:17 Hold on. Just a second. Hey, listen, I'm not trying to be disrespectful. I'm just being smart. You already caught me, right? Now, if I get up and chase you, I'll lose her too. I lost two girls. Oh, damn.
Starting point is 01:17:36 Yeah. Yeah, Gil. I admit, boy, I admit, you couldn't operate it because you'd have me and some stuff. You'd have me and some stuff. Nah. You can't hang out with you. Oh, yeah. None of my teammates wise would hang out.
Starting point is 01:17:54 Oh, hell no. I like, oh, no, I can't do that. I'm just like, no, I don't do this. OK, man, I know, you know, I got I got to get I got I gotta get wholesome it's too late for that Gil I gotta get wholesome I don't see that happening anytime soon Gil I really don't
Starting point is 01:18:14 I gotta get wholesome it do get lonely sometimes like on like a Thursday you know during the week or a Monday it get lonely out there. Yeah, nah, Gil, I
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Starting point is 01:19:16 I would greatly appreciate that. The Bucks spoil Dame's return. I mean, excuse me, the Blazers spoil Dame's return. 119-116. Celtics now lead the East by five games. The Suns, KD goes back, and they win. He scores 33-136-120.
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