Club Shay Shay - Nightcap - Hour 2: Luka talks title run, Kevin Durant & the Suns miss the playoffs, Anthony Edwards answers the challenge.

Episode Date: April 18, 2025

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson recap the best hoops stories of the week, including Luka saying the Lakers have the team to make a title run, Devin Booker, Kevin Durant & the Suns missing the playoffs, Anthony Edwards being crowned NBA three-point leader for the season, & much more!04:45 - Anthony Edwards answered the challenge13:30 - Luka says Lakers have the team to make a title run21:00 - Luka trade compared to Babe Ruth trade29:00 - Devin Booker, Kevin Durant & Suns miss playoffs45:00 - Unc and Ocho answer your NBA questions(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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And now I get back to my boring old day job. Head over to your nearest Boost Mobile store and make the most out of your tax refund. Before the Jazz game against the Wolves, Malik Beze tweeted, Ant, you need seven threes to beat me. Ant became the youngest player to lead the league in three points. Made. He got it. Beze, Ant, you need that. Ant said said okay. Say no more fam. And he went and got all seven. Yep, beat him by one. It's so funny when you think about it, when you think about hitting seven threes,

it sounds so easy until you're in a structured environment, actually playing a game and don't understand how difficult it is. God damn. Ed had one. he was seven of 18, three, 15 of 31 from the field in 40 minutes. He was plus 20. Rudy Gobert had 19 and 18 rebounds. Ju Rondo had 10 points, 10 rebounds, five assists.

They got great production off the bench from Nas Reed gave him 11 points Dante DeVincenzo gave him 16 points and the kill Alexander Gave him 9 points to 25 30 so they got 36 bench points The jazz Oscar Toshibi Played well gave him break points off the bench. I don't know what the jazz really gonna do But the timber wolves, that's the lakers next morning. They got a guy that can protect the rim rudy gobera, but the thing is He got no big got it when you

He's he's not a guy you run plays for. You just got to keep him off the glass. Jackson Hayes, just keep him out of the glass. Don't go no pump phase. Don't do any of that. Just keep him off the glass. The problem is that in the fourth quarter he becomes a liability because everybody's going to put him in the pick and roll and they're going to make him guard. If you go back and watch the game last year, what did Luca do?

Put him in the pick and roll. Come on. And Mark Jackson used to say, shall I have this dance? Yes you may. And so that's what you got to do to the big guys that punish him. He's out there on the back. He's out there on the... Look, as a defensive player, and that's he's won what?

Four defensive player of the year, now Ash? Yes. He's really a help defender. He's not like an own ball defender. Elijah one was an own ball defender. You know Jordan and guys like that were on ball. He's a help defender because those guys get him out there in no man's land because it's hard.

He's seven foot tall. He's a wrap. We're probably size 19, 20 shoe. Bro, you not finished sliding. you might get him on the first one But are you gonna be there that second move or you'll be that very move? Right. Oh, yeah, so he tied Ben Wallace cuz Ben Wallace has four also and with tumbo, okay So it's gonna be a very interesting matchup but uhik, you told Ed he need three to beat you and he's going to get enough shots up. He shot 18, he shot 18 threes.

They shot 43. Ed had 18 of the 43. He had seven of the 13 mates. But now they got what they wanted. They're the sixth seed. They get the Lakers. What does the series start? You know what the series start? Saturday, Sunday.

So I'm playing, so they're playing. So they not, they not starting before Monday. I mean, Sunday. They don't have the schedule. Hey, they don't have the schedule out because it's, yeah, because it's contingent on, because the playing teams, you don't want the schedule out. They don't have the schedule out. Because it's contingent on the playing teams. You don't want them to, you want to give them a fair, so probably the four or five matchups on both sides of the three, six matchups, they'll probably go off first because those guys will have forgotten all the rest.

They done playing. Somebody from the, you know, the seven, eight and the nine, tens. So that's probably how it's gonna go. That's a good thing that we don't know when they play. That gives us enough time for Fred to hit us back and give us a number on what it's gonna look like for you. You know I'm serious man that I think that'd be good not just for us to watch the game. Oh no you just bought a $700,000 car, bro. Come out the money and break radio. Hold on, let me let me talk to you real quick. Let me talk to you. I think it would be cool,

right? Is one thing we do the show, right? But we don't really get a chance to really spend time together. Now we have great chemistry on camera. Now let's let's let's continue that in person, sitting court side and doing what the fellas do. could be like life remember Martin remember Martin and Eddie Murphy You know, yeah call the right like like no no cameras. No, just just two fellas kicking back watching the game You know, you know enjoying it talking basketball you know, it's me a thing or two. Yeah Tell me what I'm missing here, uh. Old Joe bought, he got a new crib, $21,000 in just a handful of furniture. Y'all saw the man spend all this money on chrome hard jeans

and he just spent 700K on a car and he want me to pay for court size seats. Whoa, whoa, and listen, you ain't gotta pay for them. We can split it. No, you should pay for it. Okay, all right, I got you. I got you. So take it, I tell you what, I tell you what.

Take that $50 to $200 table and I get us court-side ticket. Yeah, that's how I'm feeling. That's how I'm feeling like that. How you gonna pay something, how you gonna play something with my money? Chad! You just said, oh now come on now, you gotta make up your mind now. Now you're either gonna sit cross-eyed together, you know, and have some type of chemistry and enjoy the game, or you want to $5,200.

We can't do, you're gonna have it both ways. Hey man, I brought you a gift. I brought you a gift with your money. You being selfish now. Don't be selfish. I'm trying to do something out of the goodness of my heart. You talking about what I owe you. But I'm paying for core side tickets that quadruple what I owe you. It's the thought that counts. So you gonna buy me a ticket with my money.

Now I'm not gonna use your money. I'm gonna use the money I already got. Now the money I owe you is set aside. Well set it aside in my pocket. Let it sit beside me. I want it to be beside me. You may listen. This man here, Chad.

This man spent 700K on a Lambo. He just got furniture. He got a 70s TV with surround sound. Y'all saw him sitting on a Ferrari. Y'all saw the man in the chrome hard jeans. How long? How long? That Ferrari old, huh? That's old. The chrome heart jeans ain't old.

I got a booster in Miami to get everything for me, huh? I ain't even got the pay full price for that. What back that shirt you got on? I know what it is. I didn't want you to say it. And I know what it cost. Oh yeah. Cause I got the look book too. It's just a little change. Oh you got this? No I didn't get that. But I got the look book that it came out of.

Oh yeah yeah. You know I was in the look book. And let me treat myself. It's 20-25. I told you man. I'm shutting down. I got something in mind for 50-200. What you got in mind? Tell us what you got in mind for 5200. What you got in mind?

Tell us what you got in mind. I have one of the more roomies I want to take out. For 5200? Oh, absolutely. Now, you ain't spend no 5200 on no. Oh, no. Oh, no. You ain't gonna tell me what I can spend my money on. Hey, you ain't spending. Listen, let me tell you something. I love you like a brother and you always talk to me when it comes to doing things

I shouldn't be doing. You ain't spending 5200 on Nathaniel. Nathaniel because she ain't been in your life long enough because I don't even know who she is. The fact that I don't know who is that means she ain't worth 5200. Now she was that special I wouldn't know about her. I told you I need 5200. Now she was that special I wouldn't know about her. I'm not gonna tell you she like it. I told you I need 5200 for the dog.

What dog? I told you I'm getting the dog. Okay, I tell you what, you send the lady in Europe, right? The dog in Europe, you send her the first 500 and when she get in with the dog, I'll send the other 52. I already sent her the money. I already sent her half.

Okay, when the dog get in I say I got paid for the dog Okay There you go. Lucas says the Lakers have the team to make a title run. Oh Joe. Do you believe it? Absolutely Absolutely, he's supposed to say that on his book. Listen, if he was a you said Luca, right? Let me let me make sure I get my bearings right Listen if Lucas said it for a reason he already did it with Dallas He already did it with Dallas and then he has the greatest player of all time

You know playing alongside of them if you get everybody else to contribute in the bench shows up when they need to show up There's a possibility it can be done bench shows up when they need to show up, there's a possibility it can be done. Now I think one of the issues that we're gonna run into, like I'm talking about we, listen I'm a Heat fan, I'm just saying we for continuity based on talking about the Lakers and what Luke had to say. If the bench shows up, I think the only issue we will have is the fact that they don't have a big, huh? And depending on who they play. Styles and matchups are very important in the seven game series Very important. They don't have a big Minnesota doesn't have a big that you can like

Rudy go bear is not gonna hurt you because we don't have to run plays now You're gonna have to keep him off the glass because he can rebound and give you a chance opportunities There it is. That might be a problem because we don't have nobody. Who do we? Why do I keep saying we? God damn it. Who do we have that can do that? Jackson Hayes should be able to keep him. To prevent them from getting having second chance, second shot chances. Jackson Hayes. That's my, that's my dude. And you know that's coach Hayes' son, huh? Who are coach Hayes? My tight end coach for the Bayleys. Yeah, that is Hayes. Yes, that's his son.

Yeah, yeah. I think he was at Kansas City when I was in the league. Yeah, yeah. They know that. Matter of fact, I got the pitching with uh, with uh, Lil Hayes, right? He was about, he was yay yay high I'm talking about short I didn't know that Ocho. Yeah yeah yeah matter of fact I only knew because the same night when um was it the Lakers played Philly when um when uh god damn Pat Beverly was there Pat Bell was coming over to talk to me and Jackson Hayes came up first and it pissed Pat off.

So Pat walked off and I looked, I'm like, wait a minute. Why would you, you and I know you was an NBA. He's like, yeah. I asked him how Pops was doing, Pops was doing good. I was like, man, crazy. He not coaching Cincinnati, is he? No, no, no, he not in Cincinnati. You know, Zach Taylor, that miss a completely different staff

completely different top the bottom Yeah, but I think it's gonna be a great I think it's uh look Luca LeBron and AR that should be plenty of offense guys just got a play their role you need a Family a finish Smith you need Vando. When they come in, they need to do a job. Hey, Ant-Man gonna get his point, but you just gotta make it difficult.

You gotta make him exert himself as much as you possibly can. On the defense end. So that's gonna be on Luca. That's gonna be on AR. You gotta make him work. You gotta make him exhaust himself on one end of the court. You can't let it rest. He not gonna play LeBron.

LeBron's too big. So somebody got to guard Luca. And so if I'm looking at the, pull back up. Oh, let me see here. Pulling this up right quick. Suga they possibly put on Luca oh Oh mark score

trying to figure who they gonna put on Luca no not that you want that game. Oh, here it is right here. So what he could put on Luke, Jayden McDaniels. Well, he can only guard one. Julius Randall will probably take LeBron. Jade McDaniels is going to have to guard, uh, Luca or he's going to have to guard AR. And that means what's it called? Ant-Man is going to have to guard the other one.

I'm excited, man. I'm excited. Listen, listen, just sitting here talking about it, excited, man. I'm excited, listen. Listen, just sitting here talking about it, man, with you back and forth, man, you got to want to actually be there in person, man. Cause I think the chat would enjoy that. The chat would enjoy it. Just you and I at the game.

I just, oh, I, oh, man, I'm excited. I got chills talking about it, man. Ah, I can't wait. Oh, it's gonna be a great one. It's gonna be a great series. I'm hoping for a great series. Hopefully everybody stays healthy and gets the job done. But I don't think you can really,

I think this is a great matchup. You got LeBron, Luca, and you got Ant-Man. Yes, sir. You can't ask for anything more than that. Then you got a young star, you got Ant-Man. Yes, sir. You can't ask for anything more than that. Then you got a young star, you got LeBron, we know what he is in the playoffs, all the records for the most part. 10 NBA Finals, four championships, four MVPs,

first in point scores, second in assists, you know, up there, rebounds, up there in block shots and all that. So this is a great matchup. I can't can't wait to see it. Probably not going to get kicked off before Sunday of next week. I guess it may be Saturday, maybe Saturday, but I'm thinking Sunday. Huh?

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uh, Luca with AD, they're are some are comparing the Babe Ruth Luca with AD they're comparing that trade to when Babe Ruth the Red Sox traded Babe Ruth to the Yankees for $100,000 because the owner wanted to finance a movie which is kind of cool in regards to the Luca trade. I mean if the Yankees is pretty cool yeah not if you're the Red Sox because it's pretty cool. Yeah. Not if you're the Red Sox, because it was 80 years, you was 80 years and you was cursed. So I don't know the prism or the lens in which Jay Kidd is looking at this through, but he's on the wrong end of this trade currently. So for the Yankees, yes, it's very cool.

Right. Excuse me. For the Lakers, it's very cool. Like it was for the Yankees because they got Babe Ruth. Yeah. Between the traded Babe Ruth there was an 80 year stretch where it wasn't cool. It wasn't good and I think the lens that he's looking at it from he's looking at it on on how great Babe Ruth was not only when he left the Red Sox but what he was able to do for the Yankees once he got there and I think Jason K can also see long-term the visual effects of having

Luka and how consistent he's going to be with the Lakers. And it's almost a shot at his own organization, huh? Yeah. It's a shot at his own organization because how could we do this where you're comparing the trade of Luka to the Lakers to that of Bayard Roof, leaving the Red Sox to go to the Yankees? Yeah. Cause we know what he did for the Yankees.

He catapulted them and put them in a stratosphere and they now, as far in terms of baseball, they're the number one baseball team in, I mean, hey, the Yankee Pinstripes. Nobody else has a Yankee Pinstripe or has a signature or Seville Saddle Row, whatever you want to call it, where they're named after something like, man, them Yankee pinstripes. Nobody else has that. Beirut trade, Boston and New York for cash, University of Regard is one of the worst sports trades in history. The Yankees became the Yankees. The Red Sox suffered a curse of the Bambino by not winning

the World Series for 86 years. Woo. I don't know if the Dallas fans are going to be happy if they don't win a championship for 86 years. Well, it's likely looking to going down that way unless there's some someone magical comes along and free agency, someone magical comes along. That's a one that that's a one and done in college. It ain't looking too pretty. Well, let's see what happens when Kyrie gets back. Hey, stop.

When Kyrie gets back, AD, with the team they have, they have Gaffer, they have Lively, they got three live active bodies that you can play AD at the four. Now when you really need him, you can play him at the five late in the ball game, which he likes to be, which he plays his best when he's at the four, but he can play him at the five late in the ball game, which he likes to be, which plays his best when he's at the four, but he can play the five last five minutes of the ball game.

Right. You got three active big with Gaffer, AD and Lively. Likely. It's likely. Lively. Lively. Lively. Yeah, Lively the second.

So once you get him, Kyrie, Nick Marshall has played really well. Let's see Clay. Clay has had some really good games. He's been off. Obviously we know Clay is not what he was was, but he can get hot. You can catch fire. Yeah, definitely. So let's see.

Right now is really not the time. I know everybody's looking at the trade of a vacuum because what the late sense, what Luke is doing for the Lakers, since what Luke is doing for the Lakers and especially what he did last night. Let's give this trade a year or two. Then we can really assess it says, okay, because what happens if the Mavericks are in the finals? What happens if they turn this thing around?

So no, I think with Kyrie, I think with Kyrie Ocho, we know Kyrie is a all-star. And today he was an all-NBA and an all-star. So two of those guys with the team that they got, obviously they could probably make some moves. Now what? Just say they don't make a move and could possibly land KD. Now are you still upset?

No, I'm not. Is he Kyrie and AD? Hold on, we keep talking about Kyrie. Listen, I love Kyrie. I love everything that he does, right? Everything that he can do, especially being one of the greatest dribblers and great dribblers of the ball and being able to create his own shot. But, Unky's coming off an ACL tear. Do we know what Kyrie we're getting coming off of that?

Can he come back and still have the same lateral movement, the same quickness, still be able to do the same things he did that made him special when he has a ball in his hands? We don't know that yet. I believe he will considering with the way medicine is and the way these guys come back now. It used to be a death sentence when you had an ACL back in the 70s, maybe even the 80s, but now with the way medicine is, oh these guys coming back in seven eight months now Can't they now basketball players? They normally err on the side of caution. I said, uh, so it probably he probably won't be back until After the new year, so 26 prop possibly would be the earliest that you're gonna see Kyrie

But I have no doubt in my mind that he's gonna come back and be the same Kyrie. He's still gonna be dynamic He's still gonna be electric and now you pair him be electric, and now you pair him with AD, and who knows what they're gonna do there. I don't believe they're expanding that. Obviously, look, there's a report out there that the Suns are gonna have to do something, because the way they're constructed, even with KD, even with Book, even with Bradley Beal,

they're gonna miss the playoffs. They're not even in the play-in. So you can't keep this team the same right you pay him 300 plus million dollars You got 300 plus million dollars tied up in three guys and you missed the playoffs in its entirety Yeah, you gotta blow it up. You gotta blow it up Katie is leaving. I know that Yeah Katie bill. I mean, hey, you gotta get got to move on because it's not it's not

It's not working. It hasn't worked And when they in a matter of fact when they made the playoffs if I'm not mistaken, I think they got swept So you get swept you missed the playoffs. It's it's over. Yeah, it's over. So Let's see what let's see what they do. But yeah, Jay kid, I don't know. I mean, you look at this thing, I think you look at it upside down. Had you got Luca, you could say, yeah, we can compare this. But y'all ship Luca out.

So I guarantee you the Red Sox weren't it. Once Babe Ruth started knocking the ball over the fence and they started winning World Series. Yeah, I don't think they was as happy. They thought they were going to be. Yeah, you got to, you got to look at it though. For Jason Kidd to say what he's saying as a head coach of the Dallas Mavericks, it just tells you how special Luca was.

To where you're even using that in comparison to that trade that long ago. Again, it's a low blow and it's a shot at management. How could you do something like this? How could you have a trade of this magnitude? Because he's comparing it to that of Babe Ruth leaving the Red Sox. Right, and plus the thing is, Lucas 26, he didn't ask to be traded.

Babe Ruth didn't ask to be traded. The owner wanted to finance a play and he needed money and hey, it happened. And they traded, if I'm probably mistaken, them because they're in the same division now. I don't know if they were back then, but you traded him to a division rival. So it's crazy that it happened. But hey, I don't know if crazier things have happened, but we'll see. Right. I think you don't have to give this deal. I can't look at it this year.

I got hurt. AD was hurt for a large part of a large stretch. I think he missed 20 plus games. Um, after he got there, played great the first three quarters of a game and without standing and then he got injured and he missed some time. So let's see over the next two to three years how this trade play out, because we might look at it. Hey, might look at it.

Totally different. Yeah. Devin Booker spoke about the sun's missing the play-in. He said, it's been a slow bleed out. I've been feeling this way the majority of the season. Does the sun missing the playoffs change your view on Katie's legacy? No, absolutely not. Does the Sun missing the playoffs change your view on KD's legacy? No, absolutely not. I don't think it changes legacy. There's only so much KD can do. KD still, regardless,

then missing the playoffs will be one of the greatest scores of all time. Nothing will change that. I think the chase of having super teams, I think it's come to an end now. I think it's come to an end. Katie's probably going to be, he will move on somewhere else where he goes. I'm not sure. I think he will try to get another title or two.

So wherever he chooses to go, I'm sure management might not cooperate, but probably give him that grace and sending him somewhere where he wants to play and where he has a chance of winning a title. I don't think Devin Booker is gonna be there as well. I think I'm not gonna use it. I don't hate using the term, you watch and welcome.

You don't wanna stay too long, similar to what Stay With The Blazers, a little too long, because he wanted to be loyal. Oh no, you talking about, you talking about KG with the Timberwolves. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no Give yourself a chance and give yourself a chance to compete at a championship or at least make the playoffs to get past the first round So I think both of them are probably going in and you know The sons are gonna have to scrap everything and she really really start all over But with this where I would disagree with you this notion That we put drop Kevin Durant in and that team is automatically a championship contending team is just no longer true.

We've seen him get dropped in at Brooklyn. He got swept and he got to the second round. He had a 3-2 lead and he lost two games, the game seven on his court. We see him go to Phoenix with Devin Booker and Bradley Beal. Yes, sir. While his legacy might not be altered, it may or may not. Let's see once his career is done. But this notion that you drop Kevin Durant in anywhere and they are a championship contending

team is no longer true. It's no longer true. And I don't think I defy the person that can argue that point and say, Shannon, it is true. We saw him with Kyrie. We saw him with James Harden. We saw him with Devin Booker. We saw him with Bradley Beal. The only thing that we know is Steph Curry, Drey Mon,

and Klay Thompson. That was a team that won 73 games the year before he got there and blew a 3-1 lead. They beat a team that won 73 games the year before he got there and blew a 3-1 lead. They beat a team. Kevin DeRent was on the same, was on the team, that blew the 3-1 lead to Golden State. Right. Golden State turned around and blew a 3-1 lead to the Cleveland Cavaliers. So with that being said, I think it's going to be hard press for any analysis, for any historian, for any player in the NBA, as great as Kevin Durant is, to say that you just drop him in and they're a championship contending team is not true.

It's not true. Because we've seen it. Hold on. Even with him being able to score the way he can? So what happens? So could he not score in Brooklyn? Well, remember, everything with Haywire in Brooklyn, with Kyrie.

And what happened in Phoenix? You see, we keep saying, see, you keep coming up with excuses. Well, I'm just telling you, it's not excuses if it's documented on what happened. Kyrie, I'm not sure what was wrong with Kyrie. James Harden, James Harden wanted out. I mean, like everything fell apart from what looked good that I thought, even I thought, you know,

as somewhat of a basketball fan, I'm like, oh, well, the Nets, they definitely gonna have a shot. They definitely coming out east. That's what I thought until, you Kyrie with the struggle James Harden got upset he wanted out and Katie was like why yeah by itself. Why did James Harden want to get out? Well I have no idea I don't know what type of internal issues they were having just from the outside looking in I thought it was a good one. Y'all stop this see every time we have a conversation they try to slide LeBron that's not true because LeBron went to Miami.

Okay, what were they doing before LeBron arrived in Miami? When LeBron left, how long before they got back to another NBA finals? When LeBron went to Cleveland, how long before they returned to the finals? They went all four years, they won one. Kyrie got hurt in the overtime of game one. Kevin Love never played in that series. He goes to the

Lakers and in the second year they win a title. So this notion that where LeBron James goes the rings don't follow is just not true because we've seen him move three times in all three locations. There's a trophy and he's the finals MVP. So this notion that LeBron James doesn't move the needle is just not true. You might not like him. You can call him all the names you want, but it's factual. It's factual. Pure and simple.

I get it. He's the most, I mean, he has a Ken doll now, the first athlete to have, be a Ken ambassador. Very unique. Unbelievable. They got all the details right. But this notion, guys, come on now, let's be fair. See, y'all blame that. So, he's in Phoenix, he got Devin Booker, who's an all-star. Bradley Beal was an all-star. They missed the playoffs with three all-stars.

They missed the playoffs. They got swept the first year. Come on, man. Please, it seems to be doing fine without him. How long has LeBron, hold on, how long has LeBron been in LA? Four? It's been four years? Like seven years? 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, six years. Okay, so six years

Now I know after LeBron left Give me the pick. Darius Garland. What pick was Darius Garland? Because if you're doing well, you're not picking Darrius Garland. Darrius Garland was a top five pick, am I correct? He was the fifth pick in the draft. What about Sexton? What pick was he? Hold on.

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Or Derris Garland was the fifth pick in the draft Derek's Garland was the fifth pick in the job a Coral was the fifth pick in the draft. I mean what big was what big was Sexton? Mowgli was three Sexton with a Coral was five Garland was five What about sex and they ended up trading him to get down over Mitchell? He was a lottery pick. Yeah He was eight So I damn sure hope so they doing just fine now it took a while you got a top you got two top you got three you got three top five picks yeah three come on now y'all know y'all y'all don't y'all don't want to argue this y'all y'all really don't I got time tonight I

got time tonight y'all don't really want to know, y'all really don't. I got time tonight. I got time tonight. Y'all don't really wanna do it. Yeah, y'all know I do this for a living. I do this for a living. Y'all don't wanna argue the facts. Facts. I like Katie to Miami though. I just wanna throw that at y'all. Ocho, I don't, see here's the problem that you have when you trade for Katie.

Because you're gonna have to give up so much to get him. Because people want to, because they gave up so much to get him. Think about what they gave up. What they traded. A Mikhail Bridges, a Cam Johnson, four first round picks. So I need to replenish my cupboard, my pantry for what I lost giving him up. Now you're never gonna get equal value back.

There you go. So already knowing that, they can only ask for so much. Because there is no equal value out there in the NBA outside of players that are untouchable. Outside of players that are going to be untouchable. Right. And so that's the thing, Ocho. But see here, like him going to Golden State because let's just say Golden State had to trade for him. They would have probably had to give up Klay or Draymond.

They would have had to give up a piece. But because he was a free agent. Right. It made it easy. Made it easy. I ain gonna give up anything and he took a he took a friendly deal. He could have got more He took a little less money Okay, he goes to a Brooklyn. He's a free agent. They don't have to give up anything So now you can trade those pieces Kyrie was a free agent. They go together James Harden comes you had to give up some but now now you got Harden, you got Kyrie, and you got KD. For whatever happened, James Harden sees where it's going

and is like, man, we can't win here. He wanted to trade. You trade for Ben Simmons. Ben Simmons was damaged in Philly. I knew from the time they lost that to Atlanta, I said it was done, because once I heard Doc talk after the game, I heard Joel and B talk after the game, go back and look it up. I said it was done because once I heard Doc talk after the game, I heard Joel and B talk after the game.

Go back and look it up. I said, he's done there. It'll never be the same, it's done. Now you get him, not Kyrie, you have the COVID situation. Kyrie doesn't take the COVID vaccination. He has the issue where he tweeted the link. Okay, whatever happened, it happened. He moves, KD's like, bro, it is what it is.

Not it's not going to work. Let me go somewhere. He wanted to go to Phoenix. He likes book. Seemed like a great, but you got it. But see when you trade the same thing with Mello, when he went to the Knicks, you have to give up so much to get him. You looking at that team you like with them man

I really like that. They nice over there when you get there They've given up all the top two three other top picks and draft picks well How do you how do you build a team mocho you bring date? You have no depth. Yeah See the difference is Boston drafted, drafted. So we got, we got, we got our core. Right.

Now the first mistake that they made Milwaukee, they traded for Dane. They give up holiday. Well, it seems to me when you give up, when you give up Dane, Portland says, we're going young. Right. Bosses say, we'll take holiday, we'll take him off your hands. You get Derek White on a deal early, you bring Big Al back, you made him whole. So now I can build around because I'm piecing things together. I don't have to give up a whole lot because Portland wanted to go young.

They weren't asking. They didn't ask for Jalen Brown. They didn't ask for, well, obviously Tatum, you're not getting him. And they swung the deal for Prezegas. Prezegas wanted out. He didn't want to play with Luca anymore. He said, I'm tired of y'all blaming me for every damn thing. I'm going to get out.

So that's the problem that you have when you give up so much for KD. What do you have, Ocho? You could have two stars, but what about your bench? What about your depth? That's where the sound things beat your ass. Yeah. When they come in with Pritchard, they come in with Hauser,

they come in with Al Horford off the bench. You got three perimeter defenders with Holliday, with Derek White and Jalen Brown. Tatum can defend. Obviously he's not like those guys, but he can defend. Yeah. You gotta have depth. OKC, depth. Okay, see depth

Damn I Don't like that's why Cleveland made the trade to get Deandre Hunter They wanted to add strength to their bench because if you can't have a bent if you that's what Golden State used to kick your ass Because if they had a lead the second unit the shock troops would extend the lead If they had a lead, the second unit, the shock troops would extend the lead. If you had, if the other team had the lead, they would cut into it or even the game up now you bring Chady, you bring Steph, you bring Draymond, you bring, uh, Clayback, they run away from you. Yeah.

Well, the way you make it sound is like, it's, it's impossible. It's impossible for KD to go anywhere. So he might as well stay in Phoenix because there's nowhere they can get the value or the compensation for him. No. The problem is he knows they tried to, they wanted, they would have, if KD would have said,

yeah, I want to go, they would have moved him. It was in the middle of the- And just trade it. It was in the middle of the season. So nothing could happen in the middle of the- Guess what? If they want to move you in the middle of the season, what the hell you think they'll do in the off season? Oh, they're gonna move. They're gonna move, you know

Yeah, they're gonna do it. Hey How do you think he arrived in phoenix? There was a middle of the season trade Yeah, so he was not like he wasn't he's he's new to this that's how he can rock and fix That was there during the Super Bowl that happened during the Super Bowl. I told you at our hotel I want the hotel. I'm like that of a tall ass, dude It's gonna be My thing is it's just that're gonna have to give up so much to get

it. They're gonna want, I mean, if he goes to Miami, who do you think they're gonna want? Are you gonna give up Hero? You gonna give up Bam? You gonna give up Hot, uh, uh, what? Hot Smith? Hot, Hot Smith? Hot Tyler?

What you wanna answer? Probably, probably, probably Tyler. No, they ain the pair right. They give them Tyler hero when they got scary Terry Rozier. They don't probably want to get up off him because he's dealing with the he's dealing with the stuff with the gambling and all that. He's been injured. Mm hmm. That's tough.

They pat does it. Oh, you better not let Steven. They slide at the next mess. Reminded lose the third seed to the Pacers Celtics back to back. Oh, you better not let Steven they slide at the next mess around and lose the third seed to the Pacers Self-takes back-to-back. Oh, no, he already know He already know I see his ass this week Oh, he better not and we go and we must write a cup if I think we played We played Houston tomorrow, right? Houston tomorrow and they're Portland on Sunday. All we got to do is win one game We got first he locked up. Mm-hmm. It's all for him. Oh

He ain't sliding back Generation of Zempik Olympic Luca is prolific Like Sheldon Pope Katie is going to be looking for a team. Oh Joe can see Katie and your city playing for the heat What's the pitch? Oh choking you can sell Katie to come to be looking for a team. Ocho can see Katie and your city playing for the Heat. What's the pitch, Ocho, can you can sell Katie to come to Miami and play and live? I mean, it's Miami. Miami, it's Miami.

A place like here, I think we can get Pat Riley to take a back seat and not try to be the enforcer and the ruler of whole ways that he is. Ocho. Yeah. The Miami Heat was in the midst And the the ruler of old ways that you know, yeah The Miami Heat was in the midst of a 27 game winning streak It's a cert his power he took cookies that he knew LeBron James was looking for Does that strike you as a guy?

That's willing to seed anything Yeah, you right you right you right on but if we we here, Heat Nation want to get back to our winning ways, we need someone like Kevin Durant to come in here and just give us a chance. I'm not saying- You need Pat Rogers to stop, you need Pat Rogers to stop trying to assert his power. Well, we need Mickey Harrison need to talk to him then.

Mickey need to say something. Turn it over. I mean, Pat has an ownership state. Mickey and his son and his family are the majority owners. They're all the owners, right. But Pat do have a percentage in there. Right, right, right. That ain't happening. The Volume.

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