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Back to basketball. The Magic beat the Celtics 95-93.
Franz Wagner was dominant.
32 points, 7 rebounds, 8 assists, and he did it.
He's guarding JB and JT.
As they pull, it's now 2-1 with another game in Orlando.
Jason Tatum was 10 of 22, 36 points, nine rebounds, four assists.
Derek White, 16 points.
Jalen Brown, 19 points.
But those big guns, Paulo Banquero, 29 points.
Franz Wagner gave you his stats stats 32, seven and eight.
Wendell Carter Jr. had 10 points, 10 rebounds
as they hold on and win.
Joe, what'd you like about what you saw from Orlando?
Like I said, Wagner and Banquero?
They can match Tatum and Brown.
They can match Tatum and Brown.
And when Tatum and Brown ain't got
Poisoningas or Pritchett going off
You know, it's tough, you know Peyton Pritchett
He won six man of the year and he didn't really he didn't give him none today, you know 25 and his three points
you know
Jason Tatum had 36 and 9 but man they need they need probably a little more from JB and
Pritchett or white, you know, they look forward to him getting getting getting hot but
What's up with drew holiday? What do you hurt?
I'm not sure they were 9 is 27 from the three and that's the thing with the Celtics
It's hard for them to win if they don't shoot you at the gym from the three
Because a lot of their game is predicated on taking a bunch of threes and making a bunch of them
So we'll take 50 we'll take 55 55, 63, then we can make 22, 23 of them.
We like our chances.
There are not very many teams that can consistently match the Celtics from the three point line.
They took the most, they made the most threes in NBA history and their record speaks for
itself.
And I think that's what makes them tough because you, you're right.
They got JB, they got a JT. They also have a Przingus that can give you mid twenties, maybe
even 30. You see Derek White can go up, he can make seven, eight, nine, 10 threes. Peyton Pritchett,
we see Peyton Pritchett score 40 point, 40 plus points in a ball game. So they got guys that can go fuego
and get hot and shoot you out of the building.
It's gonna be very interesting to see
what the matchup is.
Jalen Brown says the refs are letting
the magic play too physical.
There might be a fight break out of something
because it's starting to feel like
it's not even basketball and the refs
are not controlling their environment. So it is what it is. If you want to fight out
there we can do that. We can fight to see what goes in the second round. Do you like what JB
having to say Joe? I do. I do. I like what he got to say. I mean they competing at a high level man
like I say this is physical basketball at this point. The only thing that's going to change in
any of these games is the physicality.
Yep.
It's like guys being physical, not letting you cut to the rim, Ocho.
You know, everything you do, you know, we're gonna touch you, it's gonna be physical.
We're not gonna let you do nothing easy.
We're gonna create havoc and cause discomfort. And that's what Orlando is doing.
Look, I like to see Ben Carroll and Wagner shooting 25 and 27 field goals
Even though he made 10 and 11, but that lets me know they been they been aggressive going to the rim and they gonna cause pressure
You know what I mean? Well guys gotta help now they can get guys easy shots
Boston got they weren't cut out man. Boston got that. Yeah got a serious. Yeah
I think the thing is plus Joe,
is that I like because they should take half a day off shots.
They're the two best players.
You right.
Why somebody else trying to pitch in and say,
hey, man, y'all take 25, y'all took 27,
let me get 18, hell nah, under 10.
But you see that from time to time,
like now we in the playoffs, every possession is valued
and these guys are taking the initiative to come down, initiate the offense,
getting, you know, whether it's running ISO post-ups or just, you know,
getting into the paint, you know, just cause a havoc.
It's going to make them a better team and they make them Boston Guard.
Like I say, Boston already complaining that the series has been too physical.
You look, JT went down with a wrist injury in game one,
then playing game two.
Now I seen JB go down with a little injury today too.
So this is how it's gonna be for the rest of the series.
They understand being physical is in their favor,
meaning, you know, Orlando.
And plus, and plus, and plus.
How long?
How long, and plus, JB was in foul trouble
a little bit tonight too.
I think that didn't help their situation.
But when you're dealing with Bankero,
who's a big body guy, he likes to play physical.
He's a bumper car type of guy.
He gonna bang you and bang you and bang you
and get to that right shoulder and turn around on you.
Franz Wagner is a skill to skill.
He can play.
Now, the problem that they had this year,
I think they'd have had a better record.
Ben Carroll got hurt, Wagner got hurt,
and sometimes those injuries overlap.
But if you go back and look at them
when they played together, oh, they for real.
Those young guns for real.
I love Ben Carroll.
He can really, he can really play.
You know, Wagner, his brother is hurt.
You know, he was playing early in the year.
Like, they down a major piece, but man, are they scrappy, bro.
They crazy.
Look, I seen Lil Anthony Black pick Peyton Pritchard
a full court pick his pocket.
You know what I mean? Like, nothing cost for Ojo.
Soon as the ball come in, 94 feet.
I'm right at your neck.
I'm pressuring you.
Yeah. Hey, this is a playoff 94 feet. I'm right at your neck. I'm pressuring you.
Yeah, it's a playoff, man.
This is what it's about.
So, look, Orlando is competing at a high level.
They gonna protect their home
and they gonna make it tough for Boston, man.
This ain't gonna be no easy series.
Hold on, hold on.
You say it's not gonna be an easy series
if they continue to be scrappy,
if they continue to play physical.
Do you even give the Magic a chance to beat or even win this series?
Are you just saying he's just gonna make it close and I think they're gonna make it close to interesting
I can't see him beating. Yeah in seven games though
Yeah, but I can I can I can see Boston winning for two. Yeah. Yeah, I can see that. Oh
So you just you just giving the magic two games even with the way they playing? Yeah, but I think Boston is the better team.
Yeah.
And normally the better team, it will play out over series.
That's what you get when you talk about when you play series.
You got to beat somebody four times.
It's not like football is one and done.
And sometimes the one, the best team doesn't always win,
but the team that plays the best that day.
That's true.
Oh, yeah. For me me I think I can see be very interesting how this thing shape up now
Orlando get that get game get that game and now they go back to Boston to to put the pressure on
Adam that it that it that didn't make it interesting the Bucks
First time in Milwaukee Bucks history,
they had two players score 35 points or more.
They got 37, a career high playoff
from Gary Trent Jr. knocked down nine three-pointers,
matching Ray Allen's Bucks record of nine.
Yannis was Yannis, he gave you 37.
He was 37, 12 and 6.
Gare Trent Jr. was 37 and with three rebounds, no assists.
You're like, bro, I'm just going to shoot it.
I ain't helping nobody else. Get your own basket.
Hey, listen.
Go ahead, yo.
Go ahead.
No, go ahead.
They needed every bit of that 37 for Gare Trent.
You know, see, my problem with Milwaukee is, you know,
Dane coming off this calf injury,
man, he not gonna be able to play at no high level
for no, you know, I think by having him out there
is just a decoy, but you know, he can get high.
He can make some shots.
But I think with that calf injury, it's limiting him
to, you know, how he's ultimately gonna be able
to perform or help, you know, Milwaukee move on
in this series.
So Gary Trent, he won this game for him tonight, man.
He was on fire.ayn, he won this game for him tonight, man.
He was on fire.
He was, he was.
And plus, if you look at Indy,
when they don't have all their starters,
normally their starters,
somewhere between 12 and 25, 26 points.
And then they have a guy or two off the bench
in double figures.
Look, they got Pascal Siakombe has been playing well.
Aaron Neesmith at 18.
Miles Turner only gave a six.
He normally gives you somewhere between 14 and 20.
Nim Hard only gave you six.
He normally in double figures.
Obe Toppin, he gave you 10 play.
He didn't play bad.
He didn't shoot well from the three.
So, Mathburn, he only gave you nine.
And so that, you're gonna open yourself up.
If you guys don't play like you normally play,
and you'll get a situation where you get Yonis.
They don't have anybody that can do anything with Yonis.
But you can't let Gayetred Jr. go get 37,
because now you allow Yonis to bring somebody along with him
Yonis had seven assists remember the other the other time he had like one or two assists
Yeah, you see when he gets to 36 12 and he dishes out seven or more assists
You have your hand full because they can beat you now. Yeah, I
Need Halliburton be a little more aggressive for Indiana though
11 feel go attempts, you know, damn little hobble. me. You got to make him work on both ends of the floor
outside it
Miles turn it in. I mean one for nine that hurt him. That's it. Yeah, sure
They heard him. But yeah, yeah, that's gonna need somebody to step up, you know, pretty much every game
You know, you're gonna be 35 40 points a night
Yeah, yeah, Trent, you're gonna be able to hold this up or if they don't give us one of game, you know, you're gonna be 35 40 points a night I don't get you and jr
You're gonna be able to hold this up or if they ain't gonna give us one of them, you know, virtuosos, uh performances
But man, hey, hey, hey, he gonna need some help, but I like the bench though
I like, you know, bobby coming off with that, you know, he's pretty much fine tuned now because he's been absent for a while
He just got back with the team. So, uh
I feel like the bucks can make this a series for sure
Yeah, I agree
Don't tell us a lot
Big about to get they better they better get game four because if they don't get game four, they're not gonna go to India win
Yeah, I got him I got him getting game four I got him getting good
Because Milwaukee got didn't get anything from Brooke Lopez as you mentioned Dane was 2 or
12, 1 of 8 from 3 he gave you 7 points.
Torrey and Prince he only played 3 minutes he gave you 10 points Jericho Sims played
4 points.
Kevin Porter Jr. 0 or 5 he gave you 1 point.
Green gave you 12 but it was the big guy.
It was Yannis at the top and Trent Jr. at the bottom and really not much the same as Green gave you 12, but it was the big guy.
It was Yonis at the top and Trent Jr. at the bottom.
And really not much, the same was in between,
but they were able to build a building.
Because when I started watching the game,
Indy was up by 10.
Yeah. Yeah.
I turned back and I was down by 10.
I'm like, well, what the hell happened?
And y'all talking about this game. I was on that. I was on airplane.
Hey, you miss a good game. It was a good game.
It was a good game.
I don't know. Milwaukee needed this, bro.
They needed some confidence because Indiana. Yeah.
You know what I mean?
They need confidence going in the game for now
and try to really make this a series going back to Indiana tied up.
You know, like I say, hopefully Dame gets better, you know, day by day and he's, you
know, probably give them a little more offensively because man, they, Yon is going to definitely
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Dylan Brooks called Ray, Mon Gray a dirty player and defended his teammate, Aiman Thompson,
who upended Jimmy Butler in game two, forcing him to leave the game due to injury.
No, I think dirty player is Draymond, giving him a little push as the regular basketball
players do and Jimmy's fighting in the air for a rebound and stuff happens.
Aiman's not a dirty player and he has nothing to do
and it has nothing to do with being a dirty player.
Jimmy is questionable for game two.
Joe, I know you saw the play.
It seemed like Jimmy's going up for a ball.
He got both hands on the ball.
Somehow A-Man Thompson loses his balance,
submarines him and with nothing to braze,
he's back, bop. Boy, I know that. submarines him and with nothing to braze, pop.
Boy, I know that. Hey, that's that good bone braze, boy.
They're gonna take a minute for him to recover from that.
Look, I don't think it was a dirty play.
I think a man, Thompson, was just playing hard, competing.
He was trying to get in there and just cause
and make a play and end up getting pushed,
you know, kinda into like Jimmy Butler,
which kind of took him out.
And it's like, dang, it's like,
it's like the littlest thing can happen in the playoffs, man,
the swing of series, you know what I mean?
And the Warriors without Jimmy, man, it's gonna be tough,
man, it's gonna be tough, you know, against that Rockets team.
Hey, look, I wouldn't be surprised if it was a fight
or a wrestling match throughout this series, right?
I'm looking forward to it, actually. There's a lot of borderline stuff going on out there in the first couple games. Okay, Oh Joe
Yeah
And they got that goddamn drink mom. That drink drink mom funny, but he
Funny man. Hey, he scrappy scrappy with it too. He know him okay. You don't care
He's gonna get it in every time.
I like that.
Look, that's the thing about it, Joe, you keep saying,
is that it's the finality of it.
Because there is no more tomorrow.
It's not, okay, we lost Orlando, we down to Miami,
then we gonna hit Atlanta, and you know what I'm saying,
we gonna go to Charlotte.
Ain't none of that.
You lose these four games, and...
It's over. It's over. You see these four games and it's over.
It's over.
You see your season's over and you know,
you go into Cancun or whatever you do before you start,
you know, before you start back getting ready for the grind
of some of the way you guys not playing some league
before you start the preseason games,
before you get back into the regular season come October.
So guys are gonna play hard.
Guys are gonna play extremely hard.
And I don't really have no problem with that.
Nah, me neither. I enjoy it actually.
But that is why it's been a lot of injuries pretty much
throughout this postseason.
Guys are competing at a high level, bro.
You look at the, you know,
maybe we'll get to it the Memphis game.
We'll have it in the job, but go ahead.
Yeah.
Jimmy is questionable for game three.
Ja Morant will miss game four against the Thunder thunder Ja injured his hip after taking a hard fall doing game three down three
Oh in the series Grizzly space elimination without their best playmaker their best player and the
2024 25 season could be over late in the second quarter on Thursday
Memphis was up by 27 when Scottie Pippen Scottie Pippen, Jr
On Thursday, Memphis was up by 27 when Scottie Pippen Jr.
dropped off a pass to Morant on the fast break. Lou Dort was chasing Pippen, slipped as he turned over
and crashed into Airborne Morant.
A lot of people said it was dirty,
and a lot of people said Dort slipped.
Joe, you saw this play?
Accident, slippage, dirty.
I think he slipped, man. He was anticipating on going up for the block on Pippen
But he called us to death because he you know caught the drop back to job and he just slipped man
He slipped and you know job went up obviously and came down with a crash landing is very
Unfortunate because I had Memphis winning that game. They had total control of the game. Oh, yeah
Yeah, yeah, they were about at that point by 27. Hey and the one thing that's very bland to me
You know I look at game one if it was so it was like they was flat
You know, they ain't really had any guy blow out by 50 some points. Okay, cool game two
John come back you see how aggressive he is. I need him shooting these 25 shots
I don't care if he don't make but six or seven or eight of them.
But the fact that he's damn aggressive...
Put pressure on him.
It puts pressure on him to where you can open up
and give Bangs easy threes or easy, you know,
kick out for threes a gen or big fella, JJ, him and Edie,
you know, the way you can throw lives to those guys.
They cannot stay in front of John.
And he has to know that, man. He has to know that.
You know, he got to go into that AI mode to where he's just ultra-aggressive,
relentless, and getting to the cups, putting the pressure on the referees to call, you
know, for him to make plays.
Because he's that talent, man.
And they'll be a better team, you know, the more aggressive he is.
But this is going to be a game.
They was going to win this game.
Scottie Pippen Jr. gave him that that kick that he needed.
You can tell he was starting to find his rhythm.
And man, just an unfortunate incident, you know, throughout the game.
What do you think, Ocho? Dirty play?
No, he was falling.
It wasn't dirty, especially something like that.
I mean, I think all NBA
players have respect for each other. And I know it's a playoff. I know everybody's playing physical,
but you can see it. If you watch it again, especially if you watch it in slow motion,
you can see it was an accident. And it's unfortunate. I would have liked, you know what
they do, you know what I don't like that NBA players do? It's similar when a pitcher hits
a batter with the ball, you see how he shows no emotion. No, I'm no apology. No nothing. He just just turned
He just very nonchalant. I wish he was a little bit more, you know what? I'm sorry at least help him up
He just turned turned away and just and just walk away like that playoff basketball, baby. We're not helping you up
We're not doing none of it. Yes
That's what I mean
So so when he when he when he when he reacts like that
it makes it look as if okay, I did it on purpose and what?
Right. All right. Listen, we're not giving up no layups, nothing them flashy ducks. Now we're gonna try nothing cheap.
Nothing cheap, but we ain't trying to actually just hurt you. You know what I mean?
Nah, nah, nah.
Yeah, it's good. You can't come through here just all laying.
Yeah, it's good, you can't come to here just ol' layin'. Yeah, I, it's, hey.
Yeah, I, when you don't show no kind of remorse,
especially like that understanding
you're undercutting by accident, you didn't mean to do it,
but like, no, no nothing?
No eye contact?
No, just, just, nah, come on now.
Yeah, hey, OJ, I'll tell you a story.
We was in the locker room, and one of the coaches
spilled a drink in one of the guy's locker. And he came in, man, what the hell spilled a drink in my locker,
man, the dude said, Hey, look, D Russ, I spilled the soda in your locker.
I'm sorry that that's the end of that.
Now, what were you saying?
Hey, I'm sorry.
That's the end of that.
I had to go back and forth to do all this.
I'm right.
Cause that was the plan for, Hey, man, look, I did it. I'm sorry that That's the end of that. I have to go back and forth to do all this Oh, right. I'm gonna play. I'm saying hey, but look I did it
I'm sorry that that's the end of that and I get you a y'all hip him up. He ain't my teammate
I haven't his ass up. Right, right, right. I got it. I got I got I got it
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Currently the only blank quarterback
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gave his blessing and allowed Cam Ward
to wear the jersey previously retired by the Titans.
Recently said it would consider giving this blessing
to Ward to wear the digit.
I'm thinking about it, said Moon when asked
if he would allow permission to give Ward the number to Ward. Should Warren have
felt pressure to do this on you? I wouldn't say pressure but Cam Ward is
special. Cam Ward is a special player. He's obviously he's coming to he's coming
to the Titans and why not continue that legacy? Why not continue that legacy that
Warren Moon set you know when he was there and allowed Cam to carry that torch on?
You know, wearing the number one as a new franchise
quarterback, hopefully for the next decade or so.
I like it, it's a dope move.
It's a dope move.
I wonder if Cam even knew.
He didn't care, he knew.
Yeah, I know, yeah.
Okay, okay, that would have been a dope surprise
for Warren just below.
I wanna ask Joe.
Joe, you got your number retired
Somebody come in and they want to wear that they want to wear Joe they want to wear that's what you doing, Joe
Yeah, I'm doing it on if it's special, you know, I mean he number one pick
He been wearing a number one
You know shout out to OG for you know taking out theors, letting young boy take off with it.
Yeah, I ain't, I mean, I don't got ego when it comes to that.
Hold on, hold on Uncle Joe.
We ain't just giving anybody that number.
You got to be that boy.
Yeah.
And Cam Ward is that boy, so it's understandable.
That's someone, you know what, majority number retired,
but for him,
oh yeah, I'm good. I relinquish that.
Joe, you had several numbers. Were you always seven, Joe?
No, man. I wore number 24.
Cause you weren't seven in Phoenix.
No, I wore, look, I wore, I just got seven when I got to Brooklyn, but coming up, like,
through junior high, high school, and college, I wore number 24. So when I got to Brooklyn, but coming up like through junior high high school and college. I was number 24
So I got to the pros. I got drafted by Boston. They ain't got no numbers. Yeah, every number they got big numbers 44 55
No, but 24 after question man, they got so many numbers retired
So look the only number they had that I could get with 31 so I rock with 31
I'm retired so look the only number they had that I could get with 31 so I rock with 31
Yeah, you had cornbread bags well Jersey. Yeah, that's my guy cornbread. Hey look I'm in the rafters out there at Boston, baby 31
I can trade it to Phoenix. I'm trying to get 24, but I'm playing with Tom Gugliela. Tom Gugliela got 24
So I ain't even asking for 24. You can go on keep it. I'm just gonna roll with this too
So I been rocking with number two
all the way through Atlanta and then when I got to Brooklyn I just changed it up and went to seven.
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
Okay.
I'm like damn, Joe Joe had about, hey they could have five Joe. They're like what Joe?
Joe, you two? You seven? 24? 31?
Right. Hey, listen man. I want to one of them single digits in Boston.
But I like, when we get drafted, I'm like okay what single digits in Boston while likes I when we get drafted
I'm like, okay, what number can I get? Can I get number 24? They start showing me all the numbers that was retired
I'm like, oh no, I can't Sam Jones. I'm Jones
Heisen Russell bird
They got a Bob Cousy they got Bill Sharma
They got Bob Cousy, they got Bill Sherman. They look at me and they say, I said, man.
They got double zero retired.
They got, what's he called them retired?
They got Kevin McHale.
So you're right.
Robert Parrish.
Yeah, they got double zero, 32, 33.
I think Dennis Johnson, I think DJ was three.
Yeah, he was.
Yeah, they got DJ retired.
They got Sam Jones Casey Jones have a check Cowan's
Y'all look up in the rap to 31 up there baby. There's like so Joe baby
You already know that's my man
Corbett ah
man, very touching but heartbreaking story.
Derek Harmon's mother, who had been on life support,
sadly passed away after he arrived at the hospital
and told her he had been drafted by the Steelers.
Our thoughts and prayers go out to Derek Harmon
and his family and all those loved ones
that were impacted by this tragic passing.
Man, that's an unbelievable story.
Think about it, Ocho.
He arrives at the hospital.
Mom, I don't know if you can hear me or not.
I finally hear you.
But your baby has been drafted to the Steelers.
And later that night.
That is, that's an unbelievable story.
For mom to be able to hear that and understand at that point my job is done. Yep, I
Can transition I've done all I can all the sacrifices all the all the the the the hurdles the obstacles
That I've had to make to ensure that you made it to this point
And that is you got drafted all I just I needed to hear, I just need to hear it.
Now I'm at peace.
That's it.
That's it.
I mean, hey, she wanted to hear that
and once she heard that, she could go rest peacefully
and he wanted to be able to deliver that message
to tell his mom, mom, you did it.
Everything that, you know, what we went through
and what you told me and how you reared me,
hey, go rest easy, mama, go rest easy.
Also, I wanna send out a very heartfelt,
hopefully it gets well soon, Elijah Alex that, Arenas.
Gilbert Arenas' son was in a car accident.
He's doing, it's being reported that he's doing much better.
I sent Gil a text.
He said he's gonna be okay, but that was so sad.
I could not believe it that this had happened.
And man, you know, we had Gil here and Gil's a great guy.
He's doing an unbelievable job on Gale arenas with his crew.
Shout out Gale.
But I just want you to know that the Nightcap family
and everybody over here and everybody that's in this chat
wanna send our thoughts and prayers to you
and hopefully your family.
And Elijah's doing a lot better now.
And so we're praying for a speedy recovery
so we can see what he gonna do at USC.
So we don't know if he gonna be one and done
or maybe he got two, you know, this is a very serious injury.
They put him in an induced coma.
Hopefully he's resting comfortably.
And Gail, I know you by the side,
I know you would you was worried,
but you know, you sent me that
you thought everything was gonna be okay.
So I just wanted to send out our thoughts and prayers
to you and your family, Elijah, speedyy recovery. Sure I talked to him too. He
told me he didn't have no serious injuries so okay let's go. Good.
Roddy White has a pick for the Jags. If the Jags out draft is Shadour I call the Steelers
and tell them I need three first-rounders for Trevor Lawrence and I
start the franchise fresh with Brian Thomas, Travis Hunter, and Shadour Sanders.
Ocho, you like that?
I do.
I do.
I mean, listen, I mean, it's not gonna happen, obviously.
Three-one for Trevor Lawrence.
Oh, you'll get at least two.
Okay.
You'll get at least two at another high draft pick.
Hey, but hey, that's that.
Ooh, that'll be Kenya and Madge.
Mm-hmm.
Them two back together?
And Duvall?
Duvall.
Man, what?
They gonna give up on travel loans like that?
In Old Trav?
Nah, nah, absolutely not.
I don't think they will.
That's a great hypothetical, though.
I like it.
And that's, man, that's Stadium and that. I like it. And that's, but that's
stadium and that's Duvall, man, Jacksonville will be rocking. Who here be rocking.
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I don't think that's going to happen.
All right, Ocho.
We're going to get out of here on this one.
This is your last, this is our last segment of the evening.
It's time for Q and A.
Lee Frazier said, what is going on with Sanders? Why are they doing him like this?
Why must they treat black players like this?
And can we change this for future players?
Nope.
I get it. I get it.
I get it.
Because people look at Archie and Archie basically said, my son is not playing in San Diego.
I do not want my son in the AFC.
Now this is what's going to happen.
And they see, you know, he ends up, they end up selecting, they trade
him to the Giants, Charger select him, trade him to the Giants. The Giants select Philip
Rivers, they get another first round pick, yada, yada, yada. I get it. I get it.
Yeah.
It's just tough. It's just tough to see a guy that's rated this high and fall all the
way out of the first three rounds. So I don't know what it says. I don't know what it is
All I know is that what I saw what my eyes told me he had an unbelievable college career his two years
he was sensational and uh
at CU
37 touchdowns over 4,000 yards 70 plus 70 what 74 percent 70 hot mid 70 or low 70
completion percentage
Yeah, I don't know. No, but to answer your question ain't nothing we can do because we're not in a position of selecting the players
JJ Carver said my Saints passed over Sanders Melrose Will Howard Q Quinn yours Dylan Gabriel
Just to draft the quarterback been injured every year
like Carr, is an April fool all month long?
I'm surprised.
Okay, they need a quarterback
because of the injury with Derrick Carr.
We don't know if he's gonna be able to play,
if it's gonna be start the season, the middle of season,
or if he's gonna be able to play.
They don't select a quarterback in the first round,
they go to, okay, but the second round, they don't,
and now, like the third you take.
They will remind you at any given chance
where they feel you're getting out of line.
Man's gotta be more than that man. It's gotta be fun. I know no way no more than that
Ain't no more trust me ain't no more than that because there's
We're going to humble you if you don't want to do it on your own we gonna do it for you
If you don't want to do it on your own, we will do it for you
do it for you. If you don't want to do it on your own, we will do it for you. That's all. That's it. Samuel Griffith, should the Titans
draft Shador and copy what Washington did with RG3 and Cousins, could the 49ers
be a good fit for Shador? No, because you're about to play Brock Purdy.
Why would you pay a quarterback 200 plus million dollars
and then draft a quarterback?
No, I don't think Titans is gonna do that
because I think the Titans,
the Titans really like Cam and Cam's style
is not like RG3.
RG3 was a scrambling quarterback, which leads
to guys being injured. Right. So you got to weigh the options. Okay, here's a guy that
has a style that could potentially lead to him getting injured. So no, I don't think
the Titans is going to do what Washington did. And no, I don't think the 49ers are a
good fit for Shador.
Frankie Rodriguez.
Listen, this is why Shador hasn't been drafted.
Number one, he's only been coached by his father.
Teams don't know if he can adapt to new coaches.
A coach in a gym on the hot seat knows Deon is on deck.
What you say, Coach Joe?
I like that.
I like that.
And I love, and in regards to where he goes, if things aren't going well, especially
as a team collectively, the rumors will start to swirl about Prime at some point coming to the NFL
to coach, to coach your door. Now, I understand. I think, and also I think some teams are
scared of the power and what they bring,
you know, with that last name.
And that's just something you have to deal with.
There are other players that are just as polarizing,
maybe don't carry that much weight, you know,
as a family unit as one, but I mean,
it's scaring some of the teams,
but still you understand what you get.
You understand what you get as a player,
you know, it's your door
So it's it's confusing to me when you turn the film on and you watch the tape and I've watched the tape on all the other
Quarterbacks that have that have gone before him and it's it's mind-boggling and I'm not saying there's nothing wrong with any of the quarterbacks that
Have gotten drafted, you know kudos to them, you know, this is obviously you live in a childhood dream of yours
But I mean like come on man.
Hold on, so you think uh,
you know, that's probably one of the reasons he's not getting drafted because
you know, they think they think Deon coming in uh, to replace him.
Well, I think the thing is is that the only voice he's really heard is his father's voice from the time he started playing football
his father's coached him every step of the way.
What's that?
What about the eye test? Oh, yeah
I tell me certain things that with certain cats they not going they not gonna test well when it comes to agility and all
They're in the strength training. I agree. But when you put them out there on the court or the the field away on the field
They know how to make plays man
I think some of that stuff you can't account for like just watching film
Ain't gonna do it or just going to watch him throw. That's not gonna show
You know what he can do in between the lines, you know when when he get on the field, that's what I'm saying
Ocho Charlie Ward was the husband that didn't get drafted
Did you remember you remember that right Ocho? That's right. You remember that right?
That's right.
Yeah.
Okay, I'm just making sure the champ understand.
So it's not like, now a lot of people will say, well, Charlie had told him that, you
know, blah, blah, blah, I was going to go play in the NBA.
NBA, yeah.
But ain't nobody going to take a flyer.
Hey, Bo Jackson told Tampa that if you select me, I'm gonna go play baseball. They took him number one overall.
You're not going to tell us what we go.
Not going to do that.
They ended up trading that big to the, uh, to the Raiders, but I'm just saying
you rest his soul, Hugh, Hugh Carver house, who used to be the owner of Tampa Bay.
Bo was the best player.
He says, if you drive me Tampa, cause they had done, you know, ruined a lot of other players, they had Tampa was the best player. He said if you draft me Tampa cuz they had done, you know
Ruined a lot of other players. They had Tampa was not very good. You select me. I will go play baseball with the first pick
Tampa Bay Buccaneer select Vincent Bo Jackson. You gotta be a bad boy. Hey
To get selected first and then don't want to play for them
Like you know, I'm just gonna go over there
and play bass, but I ain't doing all that.
I ain't even fooling with y'all.
I ain't even going with y'all.
I ain't even going with y'all.
CJ got sense saying,
Shana, this can't be a race thing with your duer.
The Titans, draft the cam number one overall.
Don't you know it's a personality thing?
To be honest with you, CJ, I don't know what it is.
What we're trying to do, we're trying to say,
hey, we threw the personality out. We threw, does he have a pre-existing
condition? Yeah. What, what, I mean, does he have... All the fear issues? Yeah, yeah, we
don't, I don't, CJ, I'm gonna be honest with you, I don't know. I haven't talked to
time, I'm sure at some point in time I'll get around and I'll sit down and I'll
ask time, time what you think happened but I
Don't know
Yeah, that's puzzling, bro
Never happened ever in the history
One high said black confidence is scary to them
They hate that they can't break his confidence in himself and they read and he's already rich
They can't hold money over him. Free
black men is America's nightmare.
Listen, I read it earlier. I don't know if you heard what I read earlier, but hey.
Hey, can he go back to school?
Nope.
He got an agent?
Even if you don't, NFL don't play that. Once you declare for the draft, it's good not
out read. That's night. I read it
That's it
JJ said oh Lakers got to stop turning the ball over. I agree
Turn the ball over those young guys get out easy get easy buckets on you. I agree
They definitely JJ need to stop turning that ball over if LeBron knew how close the game
out there would have
won 38 points means nothing.
If you think a can't, if he think they end clutch last five minutes, he ghosted.
Uh, no, no, no, no.
No fatigue. Look, yeah, I don't.
Yeah.
I mean, you're asking a 40 year old.
I mean, how many 40 years, 40 years have ever made the playoffs let alone score 38
Right asking a man
41 minutes
41 minutes he gave you 10 rebounds. So he's really exerting himself cuz he got to get on the glass
He's going I mean he's what he's 13 or 21 from the field 5 and 9 from the 3-point line
Any plan defense just need a little help to man. You just need a little more help
Kendrick Clements, I can't say Lakers or fire
No
No, 2006 red no Lakers at five
So y'all always y'all want to pile on, we got some for you now.
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Clippers winning it all, till we fall.
Don't give a, don't give Kawhi the ball.
Kawhi's playing unbelievable.
Kawhi's playing unbelievable.
He's healthy, he got that mini going.
And when he gets that mini going,
and then you combine that with his ability
to shoot the three.
Oh, he
Did we man he tough to dick with
You still you got James Harden playing at a high level too
You get both of them dudes going the way they've been playing the past few games past couple games
And Zubox give you a double double every night. Yeah and Zubox
they just got a bunch of guys chipping in, man, doing a little dirty work. And, uh, and really, I mean, game three,
it wasn't even no game for real.
They haven't done some start to finish, pretty much.
Sir Cates, my guys, is not going after the season
if the Buc loses.
And will the Dolphins eventually get fed up
and trade Tyreek if he keeps up with these trade antics?
I don't know, did he say something, Mocho?
Did he say something today about being traded or what? I didn't hear anything. Everything's these trade antics. I don't know, did he say something, Mocho?
Did he say something today about being traded?
I didn't hear anything.
Everything's been draft covers for me,
so I didn't see anything any current players have said.
Doc, does he get fired if the Bucs
get bounced in the first round?
Joe?
I think, yeah, I think they gonna make some changes.
If they lose in the first round, they gonna make some changes. I know Dane, I think they're going to make some changes.
If they lose in the first round, they're going to make some changes.
I know Dane big and hurt,
but I think they probably going to give up
on that Yannis and Dane thing
if they can't get past these paces.
Well, Dane really never wanted to go there anyway.
Dane wanted to go to Miami.
Yeah, yeah.
But, Miami didn't want to give up the package
that it was going to take in order for them to get dang, you know Pat right Pat Riley tried to
Man Pat Riley always tried to strong-arm somebody well, we gonna give you this
No, you're not gonna give us no no. No, no, you know how to give us no pieces
This is what we want take it or leave it
You called us we didn't call you. Yeah.
He gonna try to get what he can get.
He trying to make a deal right for himself, man, for the Heat.
He ain't studying that.
Yeah, and I ain't trying to help the Heat.
I am not trying to help the Heat be title contenders.
So, give me what I want or kick rocks.
Right.
Yeah.
Rich Cleaver, Joe, I've been rocking with you.
It was go to Joe.
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Come to Arkansas.
Yes, sir.
Nicole Weller, say what you want.
Cincinnati will always be home.
When I fly home from college studying in Atlanta at Emory, I always get a unique special feeling
driving through the skyline because my brain knows I'm home.
Hootay.
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Devo can't see you, that's what he meant.
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the Timberwolves take a 2-1 lead over the Lakers 1-16-104 LeBron James has 38
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