Club Shay Shay - Nightcap - Hour 2: Marvin Sapp's $40K Donation Request, Ryan Coogler JoinsShannon

Episode Date: April 6, 2025

Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson recap the best pop culture moments of the week, including Marvin Sapp asking for $40K from the congregation, Ryan Coogler discusses the filmmaking process & his New Movie Sinners, & much more!04:20 - Brush Before or After Breakfast? Later, Unc & Ocho Talk Nepotism15:50 - Ryan Coogler joins the show49:30 - Marvin Sapp asks for $40K from the congregation(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Hold on, so you gon', wait a minute, you had that minty taste, that minty tasty mouth, and then you go eat the food and the food don't taste nothing like it is? Cause you got all the goddamn crescent, listerine and tooth, absolutely not. I brush my teeth before. Then I go back, then after I eat, I go back upstairs, brush them again. I eat before I go to work out. I brush my teeth again. I come home, I eat, brush my teeth again. I lay down, take a nap, brush my teeth again. Hey, it ruins the taste of everything.

Nah, hell nah. Man, man, man, your my mom be fucking, you been sleeping all night and then you go, oh no. I can't do that, old Joe. No? Mm-mm. I mean, with teachers on, but once I'm finished, I'm in that thing going to work on them boys. And last night, you don't know, you know, hey booty.

Oh. Oh, hey, no, I don't, I'm saved, nah. Them days over. No, no, no, I don't know. Nah, nah, but them days over, I don't do nothing like that no more, boy. Nothing like that. You do.

No, I'm promise, I don't even go past the waist no more. I don't even go past it, I don't go past the belly. You probably got a tongue in the belly, you put your tongue in the belly button too, don't even go past the waist no more. Mm-hmm. I don't even go past it. I don't go past it. I only got a tongue in the belly. You put your tongue in the belly button too, don't you? Huh? You put your tongue in the belly button too. Got all that land in there. Yeah, I used to.

I used to. Used to. Yeah, them days long gone on, man. I'm telling you, I'm a different man. I got saved. I told you I got saved. I got saved. I told you I got saved. I got saved, I got baptized, but the last thing was wearing off.

And I'm moving different this year. I'm walking different this year. My head is high this year. Man, you wake up at Ocho. Everybody wake up in the morning, breath smell like get back. You will go downstairs to eat. Yes, I'm going to go.

I'm going downstairs. I'm going to make my strawberry pop tarts. I'm going to make my cream of wheat for my quick oatmeal. I'm not even talking to nobody before I brush my teeth. I'm not even having a conversation. And you know what? So if you have a partner, right? Let me ask you something. If you have a partner and right, let me ask you something.

If you have a partner and y'all wake up in the morning, would you kiss him before brushing your teeth? No. And you don't love her? I love her. No you don't. I don't love her. Let me tell you, I had a situation, man.

I was dating this woman. Y'all dating. Talk to me. Hold on, hold on, let me get comfortable. Come on, you be having the stories, come on. Hey, you know, you know you boy, hey, Ocho, you know you boy, hey, two, three in the morning. Yeah.

You know, she, you know, she touch with chair, she touch. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, Good habit, Ocho. I had to break some habits, Ocho. I had to. Wait. In that moment, in that specific moment, during that time, you had to go brush your teeth and ruin the momentum I'm good I came back and beat right over where I left off

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Oh, that don't, man, that's, but I'm telling you, if it's the right one, all that don't even matter. That's out of the window, that's out of the door. You're not even, you're not even, subconsciously, you're not even thinking about, you know what, I didn't brush my teeth yet, it's, you know what, I love you, let me kiss her.

I'm not talking about tongue in arm, I'm talking about just, just actual, hey, hey, but hey, okay, then I got slick, then I got slick. What you did, what you did? In the bathroom. Yeah. Go brush the teeth. Right. I go lay there down for about 30 minutes.

Right. Then I do. Okay, okay. I like do. Okay, okay. I like it. That's different. I couldn't do it though. But, you couldn't do it on Joe? Nah.

I want you to say, when the moon hit. That's it. Right then and now. Right then and now. No ifs, and no ifs, and what's about it. Right then and now. Right then and now. No if and, no if and, what's about it. Right then and now. Wherever you touch me, like my grandma used to say, wherever you show out, that's when you get woe out.

Wherever you touch me, right then and now. Okay. Uncho Packer Safety Xavier McKinney started this course today when he tweeted, nepotism is always okay and justified Unless it's a black man doing it then it's a problem You mo foes are corrupt and brainwashed all and for all you black folks in the media stop We can't say that word Oh Joe, but it's C O O N I N G because they'll they'll they'll flag us So okay, that's a that's a racial slur now.

So I've had to learn the hard way. Right, right, right. But y'all know it's the trash panda. So he say y'all stop trash pandering and being puppets. You ain't tired yet, damn. Ocho, you agree? Yeah, come on, we talked about this before. We talked about this before. We talked about this before.

It's always a problem. It's always a problem when we do it. When we put those that are part of our family tree in positions and we're in a position of power and we allow them to take advantage. Stand up the ladder? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it happens all the time.

It happens all the time with our brethren. Many times we do it. It's always an issue and it brought to the forefront on why we do it. Because when we put the coach and staff, Bill Belichick put his son on the coaching staff. But there's no problem. This has been going on for a very long time. It happens all the time, not in just sports, but in the corporate world as well. And as well, It happens all the time.

Hell yes. But we're the only ones that are not supposed to do it. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. It's frowned upon. It's frowned upon. It is. It is. And listen, we just call it spade to spade. A lot of times we be doing it though. They don't really talk about no nepotism. They're like, hey, I'll get in position, I'm A.

And we see it all the time. People get in position, they can hire their homeboys all the time. Mm-hmm. Qualifications don't matter, but we understand, Ocho. We're not allowed that liberty. We don't get that freedom. We can't be putting no homeboys in that ain't qualified now. My co-worker qualified we could do it in it Oh the qualifications Hey You got to be careful You can't just hire your homeboy now and they know homeboy get comfortable think they can get away with doing certain things not

Absolutely, absolutely because you cool. I ain't about being cool now. No, I got it. I got to finish the run whatever it may be. We still we still got work to do that. Man, the Washington Wizards need a butt kick. Well, I'm gonna score 162 points in real life or video game against our guests are the Wizards That's embarrassing 162 now there was once upon a time in the 80s. Oh Joe. It was customary once you see 150 140 games

I mean, I think the NBA record somebody scored. I think 183 to 181 was the final in triple overtime But uh, this is a real game and we not talk about the all-star break. No, we're not talking about the all-star game. A real game you let somebody score 162? 162 to 109. I bet they must have shot they must have shot three the whole game. Nah, Washington was terrible the whole game. and it was terrible the whole game. Let's see, the words are out, for the most points in NBA franchise history and the most allowed, they had nine players in double figures.

The Pacers did. Let's see, pull up the box score right quick so we can get this. Oh, sure, and they did this on the road. They weren't even home. Ah. And no player played more than 25 minutes as man Halliburton had 29 and 25 minutes Myles Turner has 17 and 21 minutes knee Smith had 11 and 19 Siakam had 13 and 23 and then you just guys just went to work

That's crazy. That's embarrassing Somebody somebody didn't care. They shot 64% from the floor, 57% from the three. They were 27 or 47. 17 or 19 from the floor. I mean from the free throw line. Yeah, McKinney's right. Yeah. Jordan, you blacked out. I, I Mean I wish my kids wanted to do something in here back at like look you start, you know You ain't got it. You ain't got to you know, send the resume in You know the CEO Tell them who your who your reference Hey, hey listen when you when your kids come in are they gonna want to do the work

Hey, listen, when your kids come in, are they gonna want to do the work? That's what I'm saying. Understand how serious you are about club shake. They know. About nightcap. They know. And understand, hey, this train gotta keep rolling that. Yeah, I think you gotta be weary. You gotta be weary sometimes.

Your kids want- But I mean, look, they don't want that. They want things handed to them. I'm tough. I mean, look, they don't they don't want that. I'm tough. I mean, I'm probably tougher on my kids than I would be somebody else. And everybody knows that that works with me. They know the expectation that I have. Right. Gosh, what did what did Kayla say? I don't work for my daddy.

He yelled too much. Oh, I am. Oh, absolutely. Yeah, I ain't make no mistake. I'm tough on everybody. Hell, if I'm tough on my damn self, why would I feel be easier on everybody else? I should be easier on myself.

Oh Joe, we got a very special guest. The director, Black Panther, the director of Creed. He's a recipient of four NAACP Image Awards. He's been nominated for two Academy Awards, a Golden Globe and a Grammy. He's the director, as I mentioned, Black Panther and Creed. He has a new movie that's coming out in April called,

Tarez. Here he is, Ryan Coogler. Ryan, how you doing, bro? I'm happy to be with y'all, bro. I'm happy that you're with us. Man, I'm feeling good, bro. Like, big fans of y'all coming up, I used to play football, not as well as y'all.

Dang. But big fans of y'all there, and then watching y'all transition, man, it's been beautiful, bro. Like, it always warrants my heart when I see uh when I see athletes prolong that career you know I'm saying. Well let me ask you this Ryan okay you wanted you like you played football did you have professional or collegiate aspirations? Absolutely bro yeah absolutely bro I used to play with Marshawn.

Okay bro get beast boom. Yeah yeah, we from the same neighborhood so okay, um, you know, I played him at play against him In popcorn high school in college. Yeah, I'm a play at Sacramento State So so so so also bro, we both play for the same coach may never coach Steve. I'm shaking a coach most Yeah, cause most got me my scholarship at Hey, Coach Moose. Yeah, Coach Moose gave me my scholarship at Sacramento State. Oh yeah, look at that. That's me scoring a touchdown on Davis right there, on UC Davis. Oh, that's a lie.

You don't play for the receiver, right? I was. I played slot. I was. You talking to them? I'm not like y'all, bro, but I paid for school, you know what I'm saying? You feel me there? Yeah, they are good. That's dope, man know what I'm saying? I paid for it. You feel me there? Yeah, they are gold, yeah. That's dope, man.

Hey, Coach Moose is good, man. Coach Moose. So let me ask you this. Okay, you go to college, you have a nice little college career. When did you decide to say, you know what? Film is gonna be the direction that I go in. Yeah, bro, that's a great question.

So I got my first scholarship to a school called St. Mary's College. It's known as a basketball school. We used to have a football team and then they dropped the program after my freshman year. I played quite a bit that season. I was returning kicks. I was playingyze, played a little bit of DB that year. And so I got some more scholarship offers. But while I was there, it was a one-night Rosemary Graham who taught a creative writing class. And she read something I wrote and she was like, hey, man, you should think about writing screenplays. You know, my girlfriend at the time, she's now my wife, she bought me a little software that I could write screenplays with. I fell in love with it, man. So by the time I transitioned to Sacramento State, I was doing it on the side, taking

classes and shooting short films with my homies. And then I applied to film school in 2007. It's crazy, bro, because I was doing real well going into my senior year. And I got an injury doing seven on seven where a cat was trying to walk on a team, was already eager. And he caught me on a pulse and broke my zygomatic arch right here.

So it was, I was eight weeks off where I couldn't lift. I couldn't do anything. And during that time I realized like, I need to put this application in for film school. Man, football is fleeting. You know what I'm saying? So I applied to USC film application in for film school. Football is fleeting, you know what I'm saying? So I applied to USC film school and I got accepted. I felt like I got accepted in the middle of the season.

And right around that time, man, I started to find myself, my mind wondering when I'll be on the field. You're thinking about something else. I'm thinking about a movie I wanna make. I'm thinking about being on set. You know that shit is dangerous when you're doing that. You gotta be, football you gotta be all in.

And that was kinda when I knew, you know what I mean? Right. That's dope, man. I want to talk, listen, I'm a movie head. I enjoy films. I enjoy the arts and the crafts of it. I enjoy getting lost in character. I get very passionate when I talk about stuff like this. So I watch the trailer for Sinners. And to me, it seemed like a unique blend of supernatural action, you know, mystery and psychological theory. How did you approach this genre and bending concept? And what was it about this story that made you want to tell it? Man, that's a beautiful question, man. So I had an uncle who was from Mississippi, you

know, I'm from Oakland. But I had an uncle who was from Mississippi, not from Oakland, but I had an uncle who was from Mississippi and he was like the oldest member of my family, the oldest male member of my family. You know what I'm saying? So whenever I kicked it with him, he want to listen to all the blues records and drink all the whiskey. You know what I'm saying? And he passed away while I was working on Creed in 2015 and I never really reckoned with his passing.

You know what I'm saying? I would put blues records on to think about him. And that was how I got the idea for this, man. Like, you know, coming off of Black Panther, it was a real long movie that was kind of for everyone. We dealt with a lot of tragedies, a lot of misfortune, the COVID situation. So for me, I wanted to make something that was quick,

but also something that was very unique, very profound, you know what I'm saying? Like in, and I wanted to play in a genre, rock and incorporate music. But I also wanted to make something that was a little scary, man. Because you know, Black Force, we like that, you know what I mean? We like the theater and talking at the screen, you know what I'm saying? I think it's something that... Get her head down! Exactly, boss. I'm saying something that um exactly Exactly, you know, I think I think um, we have some incredible filmmakers that have capitalized on the medium You know, I'm sure like I think it's Jordan Jordan P. Oh, yeah, but get out

Yeah, yeah, but spice spice than this thing and I and I and I genre near the cost is not anything in that genre Yeah, you know, so I was fired up about it bro in in And, you know, truthfully, bro, it was a chance for me being a product of the great migration, you know what I'm saying, from being born and raised on the West Coast, to like get back to the South and embrace that, you know what I'm saying, embrace that part of my ancestry, you know what I mean? Like, I had the most amazing time making this movie, bro. Mm hmm.

How long, I'm just curious, how long did it take to make a movie in general? I don't mean this one in specifically, but I'm just saying in general, what was the timetable like? That's a great question. So this one we made relatively quickly, but they can go from anywhere from two to four years. What? That's when we got to make it one year.

Yeah. Yeah. It's essentially, bro, it's essentially like, imagine a season, season and a half football. You know what I mean? I'm Camila Ramon, Peloton's first Spanish speaking cycling and tread instructor. I'm an athlete, entrepreneur, and almost most importantly, a Perreo enthusiast.

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Classic man right on that's crazy. I said that man, but it took me it took me about a year to make that one okay Um you know uh Creed We shot that we still so Creed we are Creed was about a year and a half No, like like in a half of that year, we was just trying to convince Stallone that it was worth doing, you know what I mean? And rightfully so, you know what I mean? He wanted to make sure that we were serious about it

and make sure it would work for him. And then we shot in January, we put the film out in like November, that was a fast one. Black Panther took about two years, started working on it in 2016, put it out in 2018. Black Panther Forever was like a four year movie. You know what I'm saying? Wow.

Cause I wrote one script, you know what I'm saying? Chadwick passed away, I didn't even know he was sick. So I had to rewrite that. You know, we got going, the pandemic slowed it down quite a bit and then my lovely actress got injured. So we had to shut down for a little bit. You know what I mean? And then we put that one off.

So I wanted to make something fast after that four years on one movie, you feel me? But I was blessed, man, to be able to make something that I'm so proud of, man. Like, super, you know, really proud of this. I can't wait to show it to y'all, man. I think y'all gonna dig it, man. Listen, I know I'm gonna dig it.

When you watch the trailer, for me, when it comes to anything that you do, whether you're an athlete, you have to be a special athlete that puts butts in the seats. When you're a comedian, you have to be a comedian that has stage presence to always keep the crowd engaged.

When I watch the trailer, and it catches you, when it catches you right away, I don't know who did the ending, I don't know who did the trailer, but I'm telling you, right away, it catches you when it catches you right away. I don't know who did the end I don't know who did the trailer, but I'm telling you Right away it catches you and it keeps you and it holds you and then it's like it's an appetizer But it ain't enough It ain't enough cuz I want to say I want to see what's next So now I can't wait to see it and it just I'm very passionate enthusiastic when it comes to movies, bro

I've been a fan of yours for a long time. All your work, everything you've done. That's why I can't shut up right now. I'm gonna tell you something crazy. Yo, for real, bro, I'm gonna tell you something crazy. We met before, bro. For real? We met at the Tribeca Film Festival.

It was the first film festival I ever got into. Spike did a movie called Kobe Doing Work. And ESPN had the world premiere of it, bro And I and I and I saw you in there and I went over there and shook your hand bro You know just just just on the stream, you know, just being a fan of what you do on the football field I was also doing in a game bro, you know, I'm saying like which are which I was doing bro Over there at Cincinnati man when it was when it was when it was you and the TJ in the ways, bro Yeah, yeah. Yeah, you know say hey like like like just just hot just just the the precision of the rock running bread of confidence

You know, you know saying both of y'all had that both y'all had the mental game too, bro I remember I remember Shannon bro. He used to be mic'd up I appreciate that. Study your movies. A lot of your movies, you got Michael B. Jordan. Now Michael B. Jordan in this role, he plays a dual role. He's stacking, because I'm like, hold on, they both look like, this looks like Michael B. Jordan playing both of these. I said, come on now, hold on.

I had to rewind and look even closer. I said, it is. So what is it about Mike that you love casting him in your movies? If I'm not mistaken, he was in Fruitvale too. Yeah, he was in all of them. Yeah, he was in all of them. Look bro, like what you'll find, it's chemistry, man. You know what I'm saying?

It's a head coach on a quarterback. It's a quarterback on a receiver. You know, like you develop a shorthand where you save time, you know what I'm saying? You establish a time for the rest of the crew. And we're not the first ones to do it, man. Usually when you see filmmakers work, they usually have like- Spike and Denzel. Yeah. Oh yeah, man. I mean, big time, Spike and Denzel, Tony Scott and Denzel.

Yep. You know, Squared Sazzy had a thing with the Nero and the after you rekindle it with Leo you know, it's helpful man, and Mike has a you know, Mike Mike has a Has a very amazing work ethic, you know, I'm saying like he's always willing to go always trying to push himself He doesn't want to rest on his laurels, you know, and I can rock with that, bro. So, you know, I'll put him in every movie if I can.

He'll always have a role if I'm working, you know what I mean? And let me ask you this, right? How did you come up with the name Sinners? Why the name Sinners? That's a great question, bro. We found that late, man. Like for a long time, the movie was just called Grilled Cheese.

It was a working title. Yeah. Like so if you put up in Louisiana, you know, this past summer and say, hey, man, we're Grilled Cheese shooting that. They would have brought you to our movie. OK. You know, and the story behind that name was I've been cooking these long, long, drawn out, crazy meals.

I wanted to make something quick and fast. I knew it would taste good. You know what I'm saying? So that's how we came up with that. But for Sinners, you know, it was a collaboration between us and the studio trying to figure out the right name for the movie. And we realized that that line, you know, that that word was said so many times throughout the script, you know, that it deals with blues music and

its relationship with the church. You know, like a lot of times the best blues singers will come from gospel. You know what I'm saying? A lot of times they're daddies with pastors, you know what I mean? And they're singing music about drinking and bumping and grinding and it's a conflict with how they were raised, you know what I'm saying? So that dynamic was one that we were really, you know, once we realized that's that dynamic was one that we were really they were really young You know once we realized like that like like it was like a man was always a man. It should always been called that, you know but this movie but the Trust no one because this movie has a lot of do with paranoia. Mm-hmm

Absolutely, bro, like I mean look it's it's it's you look, it's dealing with black culture, you know what I'm saying? And a lot of folks don't know that, I would argue that blues music is the most important contribution that America has made to global pop culture. Everything originated off of that. Everything comes from that. And when you do the research, it really came from this one specific area of Mississippi. You know what I mean?

Like in, at that time when Bulls was created, it was very hard, it was a very hard place to be black. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. And people were trying to affirm that humanity, affirm that dignity at a time when it was very difficult and people were trying to keep them separate, affirm that dignity at a time when it was very difficult and people were trying to keep them separate, right? You know what I mean?

And for me, that experience kind of breeds a level of paranoia, you know what I mean? When you can't be out after dark in certain towns or you gotta, where everybody knows everybody, when somebody new shows up, you know what I'm saying, or somebody who's been gone a long time, you know, it's a little bit, you know, you might look at them a certain way, you know?

I mean, how did y'all come up? Maybe y'all come from places where everybody knew everybody? You could tell an outsider that y'all were at. I'm from a small town. There was 3,500 people with two traffic lights. So, we pretty much knew everybody. But now obviously there were people that would come back from New York or Chicago or Detroit

that I wasn't familiar with, but I knew their family and after a while they ended up staying. So we were cool with them also. You said something very interesting because everybody talks about the Mississippi Delta, the Delta Blues. Yes, sir. This film deals with a lot of brotherhood, loyalty, fate. Yes, sir. You did a great job of working it and putting all that together, and it came together.

From the trailer for what I saw, I haven't been to the movie since the pandemic. I'm going to go check this one out. Oh, why don't we check it out? To see how you tie this thing all together. Now, I saw the two minute trailer, but I I would see you tie this thing together for 90 minutes. Yeah, yeah, I mean, I'm proud of it, man. And like, look, another reason I think you gonna dig it, man, is your relationship with your brother Sterling, bro.

You know what I'm saying? Like whenever I hear y'all talking, I gotta imagine in y'all neighborhood, y'all was numb. You know what I mean? Like, you know, like in that, so these twins, you know, it's a- Stack and smoke. Yeah, smoke and stack, it's a back at smoke. Yeah smoke and stack It's an archetype right like every night

We always are been a had a set of twins that everybody knew that was kind of notorious, you know, you know I'm saying yeah, um, and we we plan on that that you know that that relationship between the brothers man What makes them similar? What makes them different? No, I think Mike just did a beautiful job with him I think you really gonna enjoy anybody anybody who got that type of relationship. You know what I'm saying? I got a big brother, I got a little brother, you know, that will really fill this movie I think on a different level.

I like it. I got one more question, man. After creating something like this, something that's so bold, so different, and you're pushing boundaries, with most of your work and your craft. And again, I'm gonna tell you I'm a hard-porn because I've never had a chance to actually tell you now I do I'm gonna make sure I let you know I'm a huge fan of everything you've done and I'm really I'm really really excited For this, but do you see yourself continue to push boundaries with more genre films?

Or or just I don't want to be too nosy. But what's next? All right, we got another Creed coming if we do got another Creed coming, I want to shoot my shot real quick. Oh, yeah. I'd be like the final boss. Yeah, we got another Creed coming for sure. Oh, let me, let me, let me. Yeah, yeah, Mike's going to direct that. So, so yeah, like, like, you know, absolutely, bro.

Like, I think, I think we'd love to make something happen for you. And the other, the other piece for me is like, I wanna work a long time, bro. Like I wanna make all types of stuff, man. And I do love working in the genre space. This was my first movie with all-in-all horror elements. And bro, I tell you, it's very addictive. You know what I'm saying?

Like the idea of doing something else that isn't this much fun, it kind of frightens me a little bit, man. Like, you know, so, but we'll see, man. We'll put this out to the world and stop people responding and then we'll go from there. But I'm definitely not closing the door on doing more genre work, for sure, man.

It was just too much fun. I'll tell you for real. Right, right. I like it, I like it. Yeah, you for real. Right, right. I like it. Yeah, you know what, Ryan, when I look at it and I think about like you did Fruitvale, you've done Creed, you've done Black Panther, Naya in this genre. It's kind of like Spike, because Spike has kind of been all over the place. He's done Malcolm X, he's done Hurricane, he did Devil in Blue Dress, he's done Harlem Blues, he's done Inside Man, he's done,

He's done Harlem Blues, he's done Inside Man, he's done, I think he did Mano, no that was a Ricky Scott. He did Twenty-Fifth Hour? Twenty-Fifth Hour, yes. So he's kind of been, is that kind of the Ricky? Like look, I don't want y'all to pigeonhole me in there and say, oh he only does, if this a comedy, this is Ryan. If it's something to do with Marvel or Black Panther, this gotta be Ryan.

You wanna be like multifaceted. You't want to be tied down or pigeonhole or tight calf for any particular type of movie, right? That's absolutely correct man spikey spikes a big big hero of mine man a mentor You know same with same with John Singleton, you know, I'm saying yeah mom big big hero mentor And they're stepping outside of our community. I love filmmakers like Stephen Soderbergh. You know what I'm saying? Where you never know what they're going to do next. But you know it's going to be quality.

You know what I'm saying? And I do definitely want to continue to push myself. But also push the medium forward, man. You know what I'm saying? It's a blessing to be able to work in a space where you get to work on things that are fresh, work on things that haven't been done before, you know? For instance, with this film, you know,

this is the first time that an IMAX camera has been combined with a ultra-pana vision lens. So it's the same camera work, same camera package that was used on Quentin Tarantino's film The Hateful Eight. That was great. Yeah, yeah. That was good.

So we combined that with the traditional IMAX film camera first time ever. You know what I'm saying? So getting a chance to break new ground and do that with people of color on the screen. Right. You know what I mean? And a story set in the Mississippi Delta. It's a great honor to be able to do something like that. You know what I mean?

And it helps me to be motivated, helps me to stay sharp. You know, I'm getting to work with people who I've been working with for a long time, and it's just amazing. That's dope. I don't wanna be too presumptuous of this, but I saw something and it seems like, I forget the two brothers, but it's two brothers, Ocho,

and one of them might be cast. I wanna throw my head in for T'Challa. You know, I wanna throw my head in. I'll just throw my head in for T'Challa. You know, I'm gonna throw my head in I'm just gonna throw my head in What you doing? Hey, I'm gonna throw my head in to me. Hey man get it in there. Hey, hey, we can talk about it, man. Hey How you gonna take my steelo? Can I get my role first in Creed? Okay. Oh you okay? You want to be one of the fighters that Creed fight? Yeah. Okay. Okay. Okay

I got an extensive background in combat sports So it would be perfect to be able to transition so I ain't really got to play no character I could just be myself. Hey poppin that thing as ultra Yeah, all this hard. Yeah, all this hard. Oh, yeah Aldis Hodge. Oh, Aldis Hodge, oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, they had him already in the uniform. I was like, okay.

Yeah, he definitely could, he could definitely pass for T'Challa. Yeah. He could, he could. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, big shout out to Aldis, man. He is incredible. You know, he make watches too, bro.

Does he? But straight up, straight up knowing how to make watches, bro. Right. Wow. Like a genius, bro. You know what I'm saying? Ryan, were you, as a kid, were you in the comics, were you a superhero fan? Yeah, big time. I had an older cousin.

You know, I'm the oldest of three boys, so all that, how long Big Brother's always been looking for. You know what I'm saying? I had an older cousin who was seven years older than me, who was a big c***head. And I got into him just because I thought he was cool. You feel me? So I started reading him just because I thought he was cool. You feel me? So I started reading him, but I did always read him. Like, I took a break from a little bit

when I got serious about sports. Right. We still watched the cartoons while I had you, but it was all school and ball. But like, I would say from like ninth grade, maybe to my senior year of college. And when I went back to film school, I got back into them, you know what I mean?

Do you collect them? Man, that's a great question, bro. Honestly, I do, I do, man. Like, but not actively, bro. Like what happens now is, it's like I'll go to Comic-Con for work, and I'll go, They got a basically a floor You know we can we can go where you can go by any trade trade buy sale

Yeah, I got going there hit the floor and cop one or something You know me but it's been a while since I've been in the comic book store, man. I'm not gonna hold you Give me your top five superheroes Shit alright alright, I'm gonna go fast. I'm not over thinking. I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go to I'm gonna go fast. I'm not gonna overthink it. I'm gonna go to child number one. Okay. And then I'm gonna go Wolverine. Okay. Can I put villains in it? You can. Yeah.

I got Magneto number three. You got who? Magneto? Magneto. Yeah. I got Magneto number three. Okay. I got Magneto number three.

Okay. I got Magneto number three. Okay. I got Magneto number three. Okay. I got Magneto number three. Okay. I got Magneto number three. Okay. I got Magneto number three. Okay. I got my needle number three Um, I need oh yeah, I got my I got my needle number three. Um, I

Got uh, alright, I'm gonna go I'm gonna go I'm gonna go deep cut. I'm gonna go deep cut Roar search from from watch me Okay, I know whatmen. Rockshark. And then um, and then I'm gonna go I'm gonna go rogue. Okay, I like that. Yeah, yeah, rogue is gash bro.

Like the, the, the, the uh you know, you know, you know, take our glove off, touch, touch you, take your powers, knock you out. I mean that's, that's, yeah,, you know, take our glove off touch touch you take your powers knock you all I mean, that's that's Yeah, that's pretty that's pretty solid. I'm surprised you really didn't go with a lot of the old like like Superman Batman Batman ain't no superhero Batman. They got he can't do it without that bill, bro bro Batman Batman and Batman was a dog from you know, bro, like the fact that I'm saying is what I'm saying Batman is crazy cuz That was that was that was man. man, that was the one for us,

because they had to animate his series. Yeah. And we used to mail, I had a homie from Fresno who played DB, incredible defensive back here, he a coach now. Man, me and him, during Fall Camp, bro, we went half on a DVD pack, and during them dough days, we would ride back to his girl house and watch the movie

between his dough days, bro. Between, she'll make a little fool for us, bro. We on the couch, bro. Taking it back to eighth grade with it, you know. That's live, that's live. So, Black Panther 3, how long we gotta wait? Not long. Yeah, not long. I mean, there's been a lot of rumors circulating that Denzel gonna be in it.

I don't know. That's what the word in the street is. Yeah, yeah. I have a hand. Yeah, yeah. We're talking. Yeah, yeah. I've been dying to work with Denzel, man. And I'm hoping we work with this. Oh, man.

And I'm hoping we can make that happen. But I got every intention on working with him in that movie. And as long as he as long as he interested, man, it's going to happen. Oh, wow. But you know, he a living legend, man. And he is a great mentor for so many of us. You know, like he just he all about looking out for us now, man. You know I'm saying and You know what it wasn't example bro for how to live man, you got his family running miss, you know It's it's true. Yeah, but like everybody wrong that we've been with Pauletta for 40 plus years

Oh, she's John David John David used to train with me in Atlanta. I had retired, but he was down at Morehouse, and the trainer that trained me, bring him to the track, you know, tell him how to do certain things. I've known that family for 20, that was in, I retired, so like 20 plus years. So, and Denzel is great. His wife, Pauletta, John David,

man, they're unbelievable. I'm gonna show the people. RC, I just seen Denzel. I wasn't able to actually, I was able to let him know I was there, but he wasn't taking no visitors. It didn't matter who you were. I was able to see him last week on New York. I went to see Othello. Yeah. He don't play when he on Broadway, bro. No, no, no. Yeah, when he on Broadway, he in a different zone, bro.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. How was the play? Oh, man, beautiful, beautiful. Listen, I took drama, I took drama in high school, so that's why I still have a love for drama and the arts and theater and dance, so I really have to say that. Excuse me. Huh? Come on, Unc, man, stop playing, right?

Hey, listen, you already know, because you can hear me talk when I talk about certain things. You already know it's something I really like now. Hey, why you call boy shit when he said dance? That was when he got up in there on you, bruh. Hold on, this is how you know I love dance, too. Mind you, RC, I did... The Riverdale.

I did ballet when I was playing. Yeah. I just left New Orleans last week. I went to see Alvin Ailey, man, for the UMP team time since 1988 when my grandma took me to go see him in 88 at the Gustonman Theater. I love it, bro. That's Alvin and the Chipmunks. Why you on this about?

Come on. Hey. I'm going to go see him. I'm going to see him. I haven't been to a whole lot of Broadway. I saw Samuel Jackson when he played Dr. King. Okay. I might not get there. Yeah. Broadway is different.

Yeah. It's so different than going to the, it's so different than going to an actual movie. Yeah. I don't know if it, you know what I'm saying, don't joke, I mean, you like, you just went to a, but to sit there and to see, I'm like, damn, this is amazing. Yeah.

It's no joke, bro. It's a true actor's medium, you know what I'm saying? Yes. Like, whereas in film, you know, like it's arguably a true actors medium, you know, yes like like like whereas it whereas in film, you know Like like it's arguably a filmmakers medium. They'll say television is a writers medium Like like like that that stage is an actor's medium, but they got nothing to save them, you know Something they just they just they just up there. You know, I mean, it's no you know me You know I'm saying like I guess it's just

Bro, and that's what Denzel says. Denzel says he's a theatrical actor that went to the screen. He cut his teeth on Broadway. He says some people are on stage and they come to Broadway. I was Broadway that went to the screen. It's interesting too bro because like a lot of people don't understand too, it's like the culture of Broadway. You know, like very similar to, you know, very similar to basketball, right? Like if you, you know, like basketball is very culturally ingrained in the United States,

so much so that if you go watch a professional basketball game anywhere in the world, most of the players are going to be from the States. If you go overseas to Italy and watch a game there or overseas in Germany, you'll see a lot of players here. And with that stage work, it's so culturally ingrained in the UK. It's a part of that culture. They are about the stage, the way we are about basketball here,

you know what I'm saying? It's in every school, it's in every, you know, so you'll see these British actors getting shipped all over the place, man. They ain't on every road, you know what I mean? They ain't on every, you know, white British actors, black British actors, you know what I'm saying? Yeah.

And for me coming up, bro, first of all, I hit a Broadway play and really seen somebody get down, you know what I mean? It was like, I didn't wish I had been exposed to it earlier, bro, you know what I'm saying? I might have been doing that. You know what I mean? Right. I'm Camila Ramon, Peloton's first Spanish-speaking cycling and tread instructor. I'm an athlete, entrepreneur, and almost most importantly, a perreo enthusiast. And I'm Liz Ortiz, former pro soccer player and Olympian and like Cami, a perreo enthusiast.

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Hey, well, hey, even if I just get a cat meal, I can be Mboku's brother. Oh, he got you, bro. Hey, if you're with me, man, hey. Hey, watch out. I can be Mboku's brother or something. Just put your forehead down. I'm coming with it, Ry. I'm coming with it.

Hey, I'm with it, man. I'm with it, Ryan. I'm coming with it. Hey, I'm with it, man. Y'all. Man, I'm with it, man. Y'all got such great chemistry, man, when I watch y'all, bro. Yeah. It's evident, man. It's evident. I appreciate that. Sinners arrive in theaters April 18th,

directed by, written by Ryan Coogler. He written such fruit-bell station, Black Panther, Wakanda Forever, Creed, and now he's with this one, Sinners, arrives in theaters April 18th. Ryan, thank you for giving us a little bit of your time. Thank you for the trailer. We all support you. Hey, chat, make sure we go out here and support our brother Ryan Coogler. Hey, he's doing big things for the community, doing big things for the culture. Yes, sir. And we got to make sure we keep him up. We're

going to lift him up and we're going to keep him up there. Ryan, thank you so much for your time. Appreciate it. Hey, I'll see you down the road. Now. I appreciate y'all man. Thank you. Thank you, boss, man. Love you, man. Yes, sir. We got to talk about this. What? Yes, sir. Marvin Sapp is receiving backlash. He locked the doors of the church until they received 40K in donations. Let's take a listen to this with you. Okay. And they understand the cost that is involved. There's 1000 of you. I say close them doors. Usher's close the doors, close the doors, close the doors. It's a thousand that's watching online.

This is a small seed. If I get a thousand online to give this, if I get a thousand in the sanctuary to give this, that's $40,000 tonight. Not everyone up here, we've all sold and seeded, but I need everyone standing up here with us with me to plant a seed of $100 because again it costs to sit up here and this is what I need you to do if you're giving electronically or even if you're giving tangibly I'm gonna have y'all come to the altar and give it because I need to see a thousand people moving

Huh? Bring them baskets bring the baskets up here. I want to see the folks. Y'all start moving. Y'all can bring it right now. Come, come, come, come, come. A thousand people need to give $20. A thousand people need to give $20. A thousand people online need to give $20. This is easy, saints. Hey, well, that's always been the church. That's always been the church. But see, that used to be- That's always been the church. I grew up in a church.

You know, that offering plate, it come around about two, three times, man. They say, but the Lord said, give what you can. He ain't put no number on it. Oh no. Where's the Bible, he say when you tithe. 10% of your earnings, man. Yes!

10% of your earnings. Now he will say, Melancholy, I think it's from Melichad 3, 8 through 11. He said, when a man rob God, he answers the question because he already know what you're going to do. He said, yeah, where would I rob you? He said, in tithes and in offerings. Oh! He said, bring your tithe to the storehouse and I'll open up the windows of heaven and pour you out of blessings that you will not be able to receive. That's what he said. Now he ain't tell me jack legs to be coming up here talking about a good... see what they preaching is prosperity.

Yes, sir. Yes, sir. But see, that's why I'm going to the ministry. Come on now you're kicking that. Hey, Ocho. Yeah. Ocho! Yes, sir. I'll blast the plate around, I'll blast the collection plate. Now, Joe. Yes, sir. I'll pass the plate around. I'll pass the collection plate. Now look here. Oh, oh, Joe. Hey, don't put no change in the collection plate.

Yeah. God don't like noise. Yeah, dog, God don't like noise. God don't like noise. Hey, hey know, Marv is sat in the church. The church, that's part of the building fund. The church needs new windows. You ain't gonna tell me how much to yield. Oh, he need a jet. Oh, he need a Rolls Royce. He need a bed lamp.

He ain't gonna have a better, he ain't gonna have a, if I'm working harder, he ain't gonna have a better car than me. Not that I'm donating to. Yeah. Hey, well one thing you got to understand that I've never been in the pulpit. I've never been a preacher, but I do understand the work that come behind it. I do understand the studying and the hours and all the stuff that they have to go through when it comes to running the church and being a preacher. And I that they have to go through when it comes to running the church and being a preacher. And I'm not going to sit up here and preach because that's not me.

I am not going to play with the Lord like that. But in the Bible it says, hold on, listen to me now. In the Bible it says, God loves a cheerful giver. It doesn't tell you how much you got to give though. Exactly. That's my point. That's it. Now that's the only thing I don't agree with. Now you ain't finna lock them goddamn doors and I got to get home

and watch the basketball game because it's March Madness. Talk about something I got to give you a thousand dollars. Now the devil is a lie. Now you're going to open them doors and I'm going to give you what you can. What I can. Now that's what's going to happen. Or we're going to have to tussle up here in this church. Yeah. Then God going to have to come down there and pull me up off you.

He gonna have to come down up off his throne because he's the Alpha and the Omega. Omega. He's high and looks low. So he know I'm gonna be tearing your tail up in that church if you lock them doors and I can't get up out of there. But I'm saying, but come on now. Hey, they're doing too much, Ocho. They're doing too much, man. They're true. They're true. And it's a new church.

I didn't even know pastors was a job. Because when I grew up, the pastor, he was the principal. He was a janitor. He cut hair. He wasn't no preacher full-time. That wasn't the only job he had. Right. I swear on you, I did not know that that was a full-time job. Yeah. Maybe it's just me. Maybe that was just a southern thing. Mm-hmm. But...

Yeah. Amen. My pastor wasn't a teacher at the school, or he was a principal, or he was a custodian. He was a barber. Yeah. Hey man, my pastor was the, was the, was the, was the teacher at the school or he was principal or he was the custodian. He was the barber. Yeah. He did other things. He wasn't just, he just didn't preach. Maybe that's just, I don't know. Right.

That just means. Hey, but one thing you got to think, I'm not sure if Marmos have has a mega church, but I understand what, what goes into it and what entails when it comes to the overhead or a church of that magnitude with a congregation. Well, stop building a church that big. Yeah, listen, I don't know. I ain't never been there. I ain't never been there. But listen, one thing I do, I love some preaching for.

I love some preaching. You know, grandma had me in the church, you know, Sunday, Wednesday, Bible study. I led the choir. You know, I was in the junior choir. I was a junior deacon. I did look at everything. I'm gonna need to see where they said that in the Bible. What is it?

Oh, it's not in there. And they locked the doors. Now, that's not in there. It's not in the Bible. No, it's not in there. That's not in there. You know, they rewrite their own story now. You know, we good for that.

We good for that. We good for that. It's going to show you. Yeah. It used to be salvation was free. Uh-huh. But ministers have found a way to charge for salvation. Whoop. Salvation was free.

But that's a good one, that boy. Man, they need to stop. Look. That's a good one now. And it's not the fact that it's $20. It's the fact that he put a number on it. Look. That's a good one now. And it's not the fact that it's $20. It's the fact that he put a number on it. Right. You don't tell somebody what they should give. That's between them and their God. Yes, sir. Not between the preacher trying to get money out your pocket.

Yeah, especially during these times. I give. I ain't got no problem giving. But you don't, he ain't gonna tell me how much to give. That ain't got no problem giving, but you don't, he ain't gonna tell me how much to give. That ain't got nothing to do with him. That's between me. Hey, I'm gonna have to answer, no matter what you think of Shannon Sharp, Shannon's gonna have to answer for Shannon. Yeah.

You can say one soul, your own. Yeah. You trying to tell me what I need to do. I will have to give an account for this. I'm gonna have to give an account for this. I will have to go before that man and everything. He gonna say, you remember this, you remember that. Man, they need to.

I don't be like that, don't you? I don't, I don't. Listen, I'm with you when you're right. I'm with you when you're right. Now, I'm not getting too upset about it because I come from the Baptist church. I've been there. I know what it's like. I'm not getting too upset about it because I come from the Baptist Church, you know I've been there. I know what it's like from a little from a little one until I was a senior

I love I remember sitting on them Benches we had wooden benches you had too much you might get a splinter in your butt We have no cushion. We didn't have no cushion. He sleeps the elite Mm-hmm. I mean, uh, I mean they have no cushion. He sleeps, it leaked. I mean, they revamped it, but it was a church. And you felt the Lord come in there, now they done got all these fans, and they're like, Lord, I ain't coming by here. Yeah, yeah. Y'all playin' in my name.

Hey, y'all have a hand with this? Hey, them was some good days. Now you, now you got, I mean, just you mentioned that video, just bring back memories at church with grandma and over town, you know about over town, right? In Miami, Mount Oliver Baptist church. I never forget Reverend Claude. And then as I got, as I got a little older. My first past with that was Reverend Claude.

For real? Yeah. As I, as I got a little older, you know, Miami Northwestern, where Teddy Bridgewater just won the national championship? Yeah. I started walking from my grandma's house on 44th and 11th. I started walking to New Birth, because New Birth, they was at Miami Northwestern having church there.

And I started going to see the Honorable Victor T. Curry's, Victor T. Curry,, Victor T. Curry and became a part of that church. And now they over there at Opalock Off 135th, everybody that's a part of New Birth, I know you might see this, Victor T. Curry, I hope everything is good. I know I ain't been to church in a while. I ain't got no suits, but I love you and I'm doing right. Oh Joe, but they've been preaching prosperity for the longest time. You remember the televangelists see Reverend Ike and they had Jimmy Swagger and they had What you mean by Jimmy? Yeah, I yeah. Oh and Jimmy Swagger been talking about Father I've sinned

Yeah, I'm saying hey, but I'm saying y'all remember Rex Humbart It was Jimmy Swagger, Rex Humbart, Reverend Ike was the first one first one because I was having you put five dollars and send it in for the prayer cloth I don't know if y'all remember that my baby before your time chat, but I'm old enough to remember That's one thing about being old And once you get to a certain age you realize that's your only purpose left to do is to get old Man even stop playing is to get old. Man, they better stop playing with me. Hey.

He he he he he he. Man. Hey, that was classic. God damn Jimmy Swagger. Boy, I remember Jimmy. Yeah. Man, I say, man, look here. That's funny.

Like I said, look, I give. When Lord knows you blessed me, and I don't have no problem. Uh-uh, at all. And not only do I give to Lord knows you bless me. Yeah, I don't have no I don't have no problem Uh-uh, and not only do I give to the church if people in need. Yeah, that's me Hey, that's gonna help people in the wildfires that that happened in California. Yes. Hey Shannon a you know Me and my mom with my mom ain't got nowhere to go Shannon, right? I Get you I get your place for a couple of months My mom ain't got nowhere to go Shannon. Right. I get your place for a couple of months.

It is. That's the way my grandmother would give people her last. I'm like, why you give her that? Hey, they ain't got nothing to eat. Hell, they don't eat them. You're the man. You know, we gonna be okay. We got some rutabagas and you know, we can make some crack limit. No, let them make rutabagas. Give them what we gon' eat and then we can go to the supermarket and we get some hot

dogs. But that ain't how Mary Porter was. She say, son, you know, hey, one day, God bless you. Yeah. Hey, listen, she really truly believed in that. Right. Hold on. I believe in that and always have, you know, you remember, remember when I used to do the tipping, do the tipping all the time and I would put Proverbs, the generous person will always I Stopped doing it cuz I kind of got in trouble because people seeing me do that and give the other so they complaining Well, why are you not sending more to me if you got extra to give the strangers at this? I just I stopped doing it all together. Mm-hmm, you know, so anyway, but

That's the same thing. Oh Joe when we gave to a southern, then why did you say pro? Pro, come on, man. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Then what about A&T? What about them? What about pro? Yeah, yeah, so I stopped. Foremost, Savannah State gets my undivided attention. They first on the list.

Right, no matter what. That's, yeah, absolutely. And I love HBCUs. I'm matriculated. Yes. And I got a degree from Savannah State. But first and foremost, I'm here sitting in this seat because a lot of people at Savannah State,

Haynes Walton, Norman Elmore, Claire Baines, Joyce McLemore, Joanne Green, Steve Smith, Gaye Hewitt, they believed in me. Yeah. They believed in me. So, man, please. But I've always been like that, Ocho.

I've always, you know, when I got money, I used to go back and tithe and make sure my grandma, ooh, give me something to put in the church. I'd give my grandma, you know, ooh, you want me to put all this in church? You say, give you something to put in church. You ain't gotta put it all there. Keep something for yourself, man.

You ain't gotta put it all in there. But you say, give you something to put in church. You want to put it all in there? Okay, you know your baby, go take care of you, Granny. You go get some more. The Volume. Hey, all you Women's Hoops fans, and folks who just don't know yet that they're Women's Hoops fans. We've got a big week over at Good Game with Sarah Spain as we near the end of one of the

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