Club Shay Shay - Nightcap Hour 2: Master P JOINS Nightcap + Michigan DOMINATES Tennessee + Paul Pierce believes LeBron, Steph & KD NO LONGER Number 1’s

Episode Date: March 30, 2026

Shannon Sharpe, Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson and Iso Joe Johnson are joined by Master P to talk about Uconn upsetting Duke, the Michigan Wolverines blowing out the Tennessee Volunteers to adva...nce to the Final Four, and Paul Pierce believes Stephen Curry, Lebron James and Kevin Durant are no longer number 1s in the NBA and much more! 0:00 - Master P joins41:35 - Michigan beat Tennessee47:46 - Paul Pierce believes Steph, LeBron and KD are no longer number 1’s (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:58 Pee, what to do? Pee, I think you muted. Pete, you've got too much money to have that thing doing the glitching like that. No P old school, man. Hey, Pete, get off A-O-L. He got the dial-up over there? Yeah, he got the dial-up. He got the last one.
Starting point is 00:03:32 Pete, can you hear us? He's trying to figure it out, man. Now, see, now I got somebody, got somebody worse than there. You muted, P. You don't want. All right. Can you hear me? Yeah, here we go.
Starting point is 00:03:53 We finally got, I finally got somebody that's worse than technology. Come on, man. What's I see? Man, I can't complain, man. Let's talk about the game. Yukon and Duke. Duke's up 19 point. They're in complete control of this ball game.
Starting point is 00:04:12 The guys are playing well. Camboozer is doing what Camboozer does. What he's done all year, he's probably going to be player of the year. He's having an opportunity. outstanding game. How was Yukon able to stay composed, stay poised, keep their composure and claw all the way back and it took a 35 foot miracle, but they got it done. How were they able to do that Pee? Teamwork and not giving up. Shout out to Kayla Fawson. That's one of my kids, man, tough kid. Played with my son Mercy in high school. They won a state championship together.
Starting point is 00:04:42 So it was just one of those nights. I mean, if you know sports, you can't give up. I mean, And I don't care how much you're down. Whoever going to work the hardest, whoever going to come together, they all jell together. And it was just one of those magical nights for Yukon again. But it's a real current theme with the Duke program. Two years ago, they had a nine point lead. They had a nine point lead against NC State.
Starting point is 00:05:06 They had a 14 point lead against Houston. They had a big lead this year in the regular season against North Carolina. You had a 19 point lead. Now, whether it's fair or unfair to say they keep John Shire, who's been the head coach is gagging these things away, whether it's fair or unfair. The fact of the matter is, P, he keep losing these big ass lead with probably the more talented of the teams.
Starting point is 00:05:28 Yeah, no, he definitely had a talented team. I feel like this team should be going to the final four right now. And just, man, when you think about it, right, the coach from North Carolina, he's not going to be there no more. I mean, it's the same type of situation, but, you know, I mean, I'm just glad I'm in a position where I can see this and understand it. We need more of us as coaches to understand the players.
Starting point is 00:05:54 And I just think what Deion Sanders is doing, we need more of that now in the basketball world. And so I think, I mean, that's where this game is going to because a lot of kids can relate to us and they understand. But, you know, are we getting those opportunities? And this is going to definitely show that we deserve because we don't get to keep those opportunities at the same time too. It's like these coaches are being real cycle to different programs, but we don't get that.
Starting point is 00:06:22 And we have to change that narrative. And, you know, I tell people all the time, it's the traditional thinking. And we have to get out of that mindset. Yeah, I agree with you, P. I think that we do need more former professional guys, whether it's football or basketball. Because I feel like these guys, these young guys coming out now, they can, they can relate, they can relate to us a lot better. You feel what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:06:50 Or we can give them a understanding of the game because we know what they're trying to go. Were you trying to go pro? And not saying, think about it, right? Not saying that they can't coaches, but I'm just looking at the Iowa coach, right? You guys, look what Iowa coach said. He started off, and I'm glad he made that statement. He's come from a division two. He started off just screaming, talking to the players any kind of way.
Starting point is 00:07:11 And his wife told, you have to be able to treat these guys like you're going to treat me. his whole problem. There you go. Think about it. Like, we know that because even Coach Sampson to my son is a drill sergeant, but I know he's a father figure and I know that he got real love for my son. So I allow him to coach my son like that. And I just think that because we don't, we think we want to give these kids nothing.
Starting point is 00:07:37 We got to teach him to touch the tough love, but we also got to be able to communicate in love too. And that's why I got deep into this coaching thing. now because I realized that a lot of these coaches don't understand us. So I know that I understand how to manage people. I understand how to treat young adults, especially young adults that's making money now. Like it's different from when we were playing, right? When we was playing, we wasn't making no money.
Starting point is 00:08:01 So it's like, okay, you can't help of praise, and we're trying to get that. But now you've got all-time millionaires that you're talking to like this, and you're wondering why. And I'm being honest with you, right? At first, when the transport portal thing came over, I wasn't really for, but then when I see how these coaches changing places and going these different places, I'm like, why can't the players do that then?
Starting point is 00:08:24 You know what I'm saying? If they go and say, I'm going somewhere else if you don't do me right. I just think that it's a good opportunity. Now, this is a year commitment to any school you go to and you get a chance to see if the coach is going to do you right. Absolutely. I think you're absolutely right about that. These kids nowadays, they're not taking a lot of lip, dog.
Starting point is 00:08:49 Like, you know, disrespect, they ain't taking that. They're like dipping. All they're dumping. Look, mid-season, I'm making calls already trying to see what the halls need next year because I'm in the portal. They ain't playing. So I agree with you. But I think when you do have a coach who you can relate to,
Starting point is 00:09:05 who understands the position that you're in and where you're trying to go, he can lead you in the right direction if you're able to listen and take heed to what he's saying and buy into his system. at the end of the day. You know, you got all these dudes coming out of high school who are pretty good. And then when they get to college, yeah,
Starting point is 00:09:21 everybody pretty good, you know what I mean? So you got McDonald's all-Americans, than five stars when they get to college. They're not that no more. There you go. There you go. So, you got to realize that you know this first hand
Starting point is 00:09:37 have been a coach. Yes. The way you got coach, you can't coach them kids like that, not, P. Nah, man. No, you can't. They go.
Starting point is 00:09:45 They go. A matter of fact. Grab you, all in your chairs. Grab you by your chair and you walking away. Yeah. Guess what? It don't even look right no more, y'all. My coach could have did things back in the day.
Starting point is 00:09:58 If you do that right now, you're going to jail. Let's be honest. You definitely losing your job. Yeah. Like that lady, let us say, you're about to lose your job. Hey, hey, hey, hey, Pete. What is it going to take? When you think about the Blue Blood schools or the Power Five schools or some of just the bigger programs,
Starting point is 00:10:17 what is it going to take? What has to change to be able to change the narrative and to get coaches that look like you, you know, that understand the game, that have played the game, that can relate to the players, maybe a little better than the coaches that are coaching at the highest level. What is it going to take the chains of narrative and get coaches that look like yourself to coach some of these big schools? Well, the school's going to have to go back into investing into the students. I feel like the schools are filling the students because they not even care what the students want.
Starting point is 00:10:45 It's all about, give me this coach. Think about it right now. You know, we got a whole bunch of things going on in the South right now, Louisiana. When LSU coach just came back, went to North Carolina State, and the guy came back. Everybody's going crazy. But the thing about it is who asked the students what did they want? Nobody. Right.
Starting point is 00:11:06 And the schools is built on the students. And so we got to go back. to asking the students and talking to the students and communicating with the students. Because even at my school, right, like it's all about the students. And a lot of these coaches is not about that. These, these accolades directors,
Starting point is 00:11:21 the presidents of these companies, you know, it's a business in which to me, LSU is probably one of the biggest business now because they know how to do it. They know how to get it done. And it don't matter what it costs, they're going to get it done. But at the same time,
Starting point is 00:11:33 how do we take care of students? Because we're taking care of coaches. But the students is the product. And once people understand that, the real product, that's like being in the lead, right? In the league, we don't care what coaches come in. I'm only as good as the players I have. If I have LeBron and Luca on my team, then I'm as good as them. But a lot of coaches don't understand that.
Starting point is 00:11:53 But we understand that, especially the ones that played the game. We know one thing. We can't play the game for the players. So we only as good as we could make the players that we have better. And I think a lot of coaches are not putting that type of potential back into the players. all about them. It's all about X's and O. But this is not an X and O business mode. That's why I can be a head coach of any program. That's why I have programs talking to me now. It wouldn't happen 10 years ago. Wouldn't happen 15 years. Wouldn't happen five years ago, right? But now
Starting point is 00:12:23 programs are seeing these are marketing companies. All these sports companies in college, they are marketing companies. If you look at LSU, they're spending $25 million in a marketing team. soon as as Wade got the job it was it was Bill Boas plastered all over from New Orleans to Baton Rouge to everywhere
Starting point is 00:12:44 it's a marketing company now they are creating stars and if you got if you don't have a star player if you don't have a star coach it it's hard to get the donors to invest in
Starting point is 00:13:06 your program Yeah. When did you decide to throw your head to this coach? And I know you probably had that little itch for a period of time. But when did you decide it's like, you know what? I'm going all in. Put your name out and says, you know what? I want to be a head coach of a basketball team.
Starting point is 00:13:26 Well, so let me tell you what happened. Right. So New Orleans gave me that bug. I got a chance to see this and be assistant. I got a chance to be the president of basketball operation. But guess what people said when I first started doing it. Oh, they didn't get bad. But nobody realized that I did this for free.
Starting point is 00:13:44 I gave this to my community, to the culture. It was all about the kids. What I'd done, I left a program better than when I was there. That program is left better that I'm gone now, right? That program is with a $1.3 million jumbo trine. We ain't had a jumbo trine since 20 years ago when Hurricane Katrina came. I made sure they had that. I redid the arena.
Starting point is 00:14:10 I redid the practice facility. I redid out locker rooms. I redid the floors. And this is all on me. This is a state-funded school. Think about it. No president at that school, no AD at that school has spent their own money
Starting point is 00:14:24 and do the things that I did for the University of New Orleans because I love my city. And I want it's being in basketball. This is about education. I feel like if the basketball program win, then all of a sudden we're going to get more. student enrollment. I was student enrollment been down since Hurricane Katrina. And so that's when the bug came to me because I started saying, man, why this university and this leadership is filling
Starting point is 00:14:47 the students. The same thing, right? The students never get a verse. They made more bigger deal of me leaving. I had left after the last game because I completed my year there. That's how I committed to a year. I've done it, right? But they made more flack about me leaving than talking to the students about how to make the program better, or even, you know, we went through this transition where LSU took it over, right? And you guys can go see a lot of that I'm talking about. It's already in everything that been months ago
Starting point is 00:15:19 that I don't put out, that the median them put out, but they never focus on the students. And that's why I say, they make all this noise to negativity, but nothing into positive like the students. You know, changing the colors to purple and gold. you already has LSU is one of the biggest programs in Baton Ruars. New Orleans is a Division I
Starting point is 00:15:40 University which now we don't know if we're going to to Division II. And so my thing was I said, man, the way these coaches treat these players is different. And I can't allow it.
Starting point is 00:15:56 I got to get out here. I'm talking about I get on the road. I see it. I see it everywhere. And I'm like, man, what a real love at like the old coaches I had that come pick you up, make sure you got something to eat, making sure you get your grades, all that time. We don't have more old school coaches like that, man. It's all about day checks.
Starting point is 00:16:17 If I don't get my check, nobody would have done what I'd done. I spent millions of dollars. Nobody would do that. They paying these coaches to come to these universities. They paying these coaches to build a program. We had a gambling problem for them. I got to the school. I want to ask you guys, did you know of the University of New Orleans was a Division I basketball program before I got there? Did you hear anything about it?
Starting point is 00:16:42 I didn't. No, I did. Anyone in y'all? No. No. No. So think about what I did single-handedly with social media and getting out in the marketplace, going to the school, talking to the students, asking them what they want, right? We don't have them. I'm walking around with a bullhorn, getting kids to come to the game, going out there, taking care of my players, man, I had to fight for to have a cooler in a locker room. And we got to deal with Coca-Cola. So I put the cooler in there.
Starting point is 00:17:13 And then I don't have a credit card, a school credit card. So it's like they don't even fulfill the coolers with protein or gatorade or water. I had to do that the whole year myself. I said, this is a state-funded school. Man, I'm going to do this the right way. Because look, I'll turn this program around. they won four games last year.
Starting point is 00:17:34 We ended up hitting 15. We could have won 20 something this year. We almost made it to March Madness. We made it to the first time in eight years to the SLC playoffs. So I'm like, man, imagine now me taking this to the next level. And yeah, I'm still working, still learning all other things. But I feel like putting the right pieces behind me that I could go take over any program because this is not about a title with me.
Starting point is 00:18:00 And a lot of these coaches is about a title. A lot of these ADs, I mean, I like what Wheelway did. He came in that because he understand this is title driven, right? So he got an AD advisory so he don't have to report to the AD. He don't have to report to the AD. They brought an AD from McNee state that he know that understand him and understand the way he work because that's what this is about, man. Like a lot of these programs is based on the titles.
Starting point is 00:18:28 And a lot of these presidents of these companies, ADs are these. or ADs of these companies, they don't understand what the basketball and football program mean to the school. And yes, we need great educators. But we also need business people in these schools too
Starting point is 00:18:42 to make this work because now this is all about funding. Pete, what's your pitch? When you go out, when you get a job, what's your pitch when you go into moms
Starting point is 00:19:03 or you go into grandmops, you go into grandpa, you go in mom and dad house, What's your pitch when you sit down on the couch and say, look here, send me your son. Send me your son as a kid. I'm going to return him to you as a grown man. I'm going to return you a well-respected individual in the community. I'm going to return you someone that has a college degree.
Starting point is 00:19:19 Now, I can't promise you he going to get to the NBA, but I can promise you he's going to get a college degree. If he stays with me for four years, and I'll return him as a well-respected young black man that you'll be proud to represent you. Yeah, so my first thing is I'm not going to lie to the parent because I told you this is a year commitment. Now, I want your kid to be here for four years, but this is a year commitment. And you got to know that. Like, you're committing to me. I'm committing to you.
Starting point is 00:19:49 It's a year commitment because you look at every year, these coaches are looking for somebody else and looking to get better because they want to save their job. My thing is to be able to help young men be successful in life. So if I could do that in a year, I can do it in a year. I'm going to do it in four years. I'm going to do that, but I'm not going to lie. I'm going to be true to you. And I'm going to let you know that I'm going to take your kid and treat them like, like it's mine throughout these relationships with your kids.
Starting point is 00:20:29 So at the University of New Orleans, you know, it's almost like a great. I'm not going to hold him back. I'm going to let him go to other universities and get whatever it is that he won't. But not because right now I got guys. And so this is a business. I'm going to teach your son the business. I'm going to be there with him through this process. I'm going to make sure he get his grades.
Starting point is 00:20:51 I'm going to make sure he understand that. I'm going to make sure we get the nutrition part. I'm going to make sure that he's prepared for whatever level it is. And I'm going to let him know. It's only 1% that makes it to the NBA. And so I'm not going to shoot because everything is saying I'm going to prepare you to get to the NBA. And you guys know everybody's not going to get to the NBA. That's a 1% chance.
Starting point is 00:21:12 And I'm going to be real with these parents and these kids and say, I'm not saying you can't get there, but you're going to have to come in here and put the work as I get behind you and give you the pieces to go and excel and like. And that's what I'm going to do. And other than that, like, it's going to be on you to come in here and do your part. And I'm going to let these parents know, your son has to come here and be a man. grow up and do his part because I'm going to do my part. And I'm already proven that I'm doing this beyond the money. Look what I've done at the University of New Orleans.
Starting point is 00:21:41 I didn't get a check. I'm there. I'm now with the kids. I'm at the games. This is not like, oh, put my name on this. No, I'm committed to this. And I'm committed to your child. That's the most important thing.
Starting point is 00:21:53 P, am I hearing you correctly? Are you saying that you're okay if a kid comes to wherever you are and he balls out and he wants to get into the portal? you're going to be supportive of that. You're going to make sure that he's getting the best, he's going to go to the best situation. He's going to have the finance is taken care of. If I'm hearing you correctly,
Starting point is 00:22:13 you're going to be okay with that? I'm at a mid-major. I'm definitely okay with that. I'm not a major university. College and found the players that I have. I had to go out there and sort the talent out. I'm not going to hold a kid back if my program can't sustain him.
Starting point is 00:22:38 That's what I'm talking about being truthful. Yes, for the level that I'm at, I'm going to do the best I can do, then I'm going to find the next player, but I'm building up players to go be great. And if it takes that you're going to another university, it's going to be great because I'm at a mid-major. Think about it. So these kids, I came, it came because of me.
Starting point is 00:22:59 They believe in me. And I told them that. If you could take this to the next level before I get to where I'm going, I'm not going to hold you back. I can't do that. I'll be filling the kids. That's why I say the universities, the media where I'm at, filling the kids because nobody's asking the kids what they really want.
Starting point is 00:23:17 And it's time to ask the kids now, what do you want? What are your goals? So when a kid come to me, I'm asking him his goal. So if you got three years left on your eligibility and you come to me as a freshman and you surpass a mid-major, and I'm not holding you back. Now I'm not holding a black brother back that he could go take care of his family because I come from a poor family. My whole why was to get my grandmother out the project and get our house.
Starting point is 00:23:45 So these kids know I could come here and take my parents and my family, my grandmother, the people that raised me that invested in me all these years, if I could go by it in my house and get them a car or something and I could still go to school and then I could up that somewhere else, man, go do it. I'm not that type of coach, man, that I know. that my university is a mid-major. Like, it's a difference, Shannon. And I think that a lot of these coaches got to be real with their self. So I'm going to stop you from going to a bigger university?
Starting point is 00:24:16 No, not me. And I don't care who don't like it. I don't care if my school don't like it because now I'm feeling the kids. The kids that come in here that invest in their time that I don't want to junior college, I don't found diamonds in the roofs. So think about it.
Starting point is 00:24:28 We beat TCU. We beat TCU. TCU made it to March Madan as one of the top teams. My program, we beat this team. And I just had all dogs. I had dudes that I went to junior college because I'm sorting out town. The same way I sorted out of the Moore, all these other different players, I went in these gyms myself.
Starting point is 00:24:48 And the players that people told me to go look at, when I got to the gym, these were players that I never even thought about taking. I grabbed some of the players. I'm like, no, who is this kid right here? And the coaches was like, no, I thought you wanted to say, no, I want to see that kid right there. And that's the way we're the roster we had. And so now I'm not going to hold these kids back. No, I'm not going to hold them back, Shannon.
Starting point is 00:25:10 I don't care who don't like it. Because I'll be feeling the kids. Then that'll be selfish. It's just be about me. Let's talk about mercy. He came off the bench. I forget what game it was. Pete that he came off the bench,
Starting point is 00:25:24 had a quick kid, hit a couple threes, feeling good. I know you was probably going crazy. I don't know if you were at the game. You probably was somewhere in the tunnel, but you probably doing backflips. Seeing your son and seeing it because you always used to, when he was in high school, you see me, Clems say, hey, check out, check out your fellow.
Starting point is 00:25:40 Check out your fellow. And to see the maturation, to see where he's come from as a high school, even as a middle school player. And to see where he's got to as a high school player and not college, that has to do you proud. But here's the thing, no, P. You know, old pop get a job somewhere. Mercy, he tagging along with Pop.
Starting point is 00:25:58 Now, so with me, right, Mercy has his own journey. So if whatever he want to do, I'm never stopping him. Like he got to go on his journey. I'm going on my journey. Like mercy going to get in the lead soon. He's going to have to, you know, do what he got to do. And so think about it, Shannon. Nobody gave us nothing.
Starting point is 00:26:17 Mercy created his own name. And I should tell you that back in the day, it was getting up 5 o'clock in the morning, working. He won two state championships with Chet and Jalen Suds. in Minnesota. Minnesota. Yeah. Then he come back to California
Starting point is 00:26:35 and went to at Notre Dame with him and Caleb. So he scored 60 points in the game. Everybody knows he'll score. Then he waited his turn. He ain't like give up when he thought like, you know, oh, they put me on the bench. Last year, Samson wasn't putting in freshmen.
Starting point is 00:26:53 So he know that, you know what Mercy did, all that nobody that I've seen do, he killed in practice. every time a coach say, every NBA scout tell me, you know what, your son ain't playing, but he's the best player in practice that I've seen at Houston. And so that what made me proud. Then he's an eighth student.
Starting point is 00:27:11 He made the Big 12 academic list. And so I'm like, you know what? My son is a killer on the court, but he's also an eight student, and he's on that. Killing the Klam room, too. Yes. And so that's the thing about people look at me being a hip-hop artist.
Starting point is 00:27:26 They probably say, oh, well, his son ain't doing. He just came. for basketball. No, like my thing is we're breaking that generational curse. And we could be killers on the court, but we've got to have brains because now if your goal is to get to the NBA, you need to know what to do with what you're building.
Starting point is 00:27:41 Your empire. This is not about me to tell you all the time. Shannon, we all have 75 summers on this planet. That's what we guarantee. But none of us might not make it to that 75. Some of us might make it beyond that, but we guaranteed at least
Starting point is 00:27:57 75 summers. And so we got to stop worrying about what other people think. And I love that's about mercy. He ain't showing no mercy. He don't care about what you think. He's just trying to get better. He's going after the best player. So think about it, in the Kansas game, he's checking Peterson.
Starting point is 00:28:14 He's not going to say, I'm going to go check the worst player. Every game you look at in Houston, mercy is checking the best player on the floor. And he'll kill him. But that's how I raised him like that. They're not going to give you nothing, son. When you look at who you are, people think you're just a celebrity kid. They don't really like, you know, pay the dude. So my son be sitting back.
Starting point is 00:28:38 He's like, I say, son, why are you so ready to go? He said, man, because, you know what, wherever I play, they made me put this work in. So now I'm taking out on him. And so when you look at the dunk against Iowa State, I mean, on the seven foot of that he's done that made the, you know, top, top 10 plays. I make these guys, like, because they work hard. Like, playing for Houston is, so, Samson is putting out of a chance to do, you know,
Starting point is 00:29:20 so, I mean, he committed to, and then. I have a probably connection to, Pete. It's old. So the thing about he knows is, I mean, he's just into this pro. Yes. Can you hear me?
Starting point is 00:29:42 Yeah, can you hear? Yeah, we have it. Oh, y'all can hear me? We got to take it. We have to come. Hey, when you get a job, when you get a job in the next month, come back and tell us about it. I got you, my brother.
Starting point is 00:29:54 Appreciate that, Pete. All right, Pete. Tell the family hello. Stay well, man. And we'll talk to you down the road, Pete. All righty. Man, I, hey, man, I had a story I wanted to tell y'all about P, man. Go ahead.
Starting point is 00:30:12 Go ahead, Joe. What were you saying? I had a story I wanted to tell you about P. back in 2003, Uncle Ocho. This was my boy, General O'Rourgo. He's the assistant coach for the Indiana Pacers right now, but he was playing with the Lakers back then. And everybody knows back then,
Starting point is 00:30:29 this one, Paul Pierce and Baron Davis, they used to have these open runs at this community college in L.A. Uh-huh. Man, let me tell you something. Hey, I'm talking about any and everybody being in there. I'm talking about, like, all pros. Master Pee was probably one of the only do. who should come in there and hoot with us.
Starting point is 00:30:48 I'm saying, I know he's a pro. He made it to the lead, but he should come hoot with us like every day. I got me, three cats I went to college with, Janaro Pargo, Teddy Gibson, Brandon Dean. It's kind of hard for Dean and Teddy to get on the court at times because they weren't in the NBA. So once we did get on the same team, we pressed and picked up Arcoo. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:31:12 We played hard. So look, there's one particular day, bro. we won three games in a row Master P walked in soon as he walked in he's jumping on the team he ain't waiting he ain't getting no damn fuck he's like shit I'm on I'm on we had
Starting point is 00:31:25 we had one big man we had to let him go so we all out there look me Master P Brandon D Teddy Gifts and General Park go man we ain't win another damn game damn Pete
Starting point is 00:31:38 Pete came out there shoot damn over Hey, hey, it's going up. Hey, I appreciate that P, man. I appreciate that, bro. Hey, P's a, hey, man, look here. Some, the scouts might be in there. Then you see me the threes up.
Starting point is 00:31:55 Let me get these threes up right quick. Hey, P was in there day, bro. Every day I was in that P, I've seen you in that work. Yeah, but that's what people don't realize. That's what it's about, y'all. Like, you got to put the work in. And it don't matter. You ain't got to win all the time.
Starting point is 00:32:09 It ain't about winning. But you're putting that work in, and you come and doing it. And so for me, man, it's just been a guard thing. It's been a blessing that I'm able to go and chase my dreams and do what I got to do and be able to do this at the highest level and to be able to take care of us. Man, I know people don't understand it now, but, you know, when they see what I done at this college level, what I've done to help the kids in the community, I know that, you know, when we're not here, they'll talk about it.
Starting point is 00:32:37 But right now, nobody's going to talk about it because doing positive stuff don't make good media. Think about it. If I was doing something negative in the world news. And then, you know, I let your label, man. Y'all stay blessed. All right.
Starting point is 00:33:00 Appreciate that, B. All right. Yes, sir. Duke Yukon. Back to back years, this is the first time I think in Duke history, they won back-to-back,
Starting point is 00:33:11 had 35 win seasons. You look at the All-Americans they got. You look at the guys, they probably got three guys there's going to be lottery picks. We know Booz is probably going to be a top three pick, Joe, and he's probably going to be college player of the year. But when you look at the talent that they've had, they've underachied.
Starting point is 00:33:28 I don't care anything about this. They're young, and that's what we talk. We talked about this. You kind of the veteran ball club. Yeah. Michigan have veteran players. Illinois, it's not an accident. Because when the rubber need to meet the road,
Starting point is 00:33:44 you got to have somebody to be calm, cool, collected. Yeah. Absolutely right, man. Absolutely. And you see there's no way. And it seemed like when when you con started to make some shots and started to make that run, it seemed like dude got tired and tighter. Man, he's got tired and tighter. And when old boy hit that and one and one and cut up the two. Yeah. We're like two minutes to go. Now we got a ball game. Now we're going to see, we're going to see if those shots that you were making when you was up 10, 12, 14. Yeah. Let's see if they go in now. Let's see if you still have the same computer. to shoot them when you was up double figures.
Starting point is 00:34:20 Now you're only up two. Let's see if you'll pull a. Joe, let's see if you'll pull from 22 now. Let's see if you try to snatch it when you're from 16 now. Hey, hey, hey, you're absolutely right. When you look at it, Yukon playing with juniors at the point guard, at the one and two, and dude got a freshman out there who ain't, who ain't never been in that environment, who's been in that situation.
Starting point is 00:34:41 I don't want to say he ain't been in an environment because he's been playing with his twin brother. And we know they've been under microscope for crime. quite some time. But the significance of this game to have that turnover and it leads it, come on, bro. Sometimes you just hold on to the ball, Joe. Make them follow you. I know you got two dudes wide open, but let them fire you. You got to shoot them free throws. That's the one thing you don't want to do is turn that ball over. That's the only way really you can get beat. You can't even, you can't even sleep at night behind something like this.
Starting point is 00:35:10 Nah, it's tough. Like keep it 100. You can't. But Uncle Ocho, I was just telling y'all the other day about Evans. This is why I was skeptical. He can't have a hell of a game like he had the other day and then turn around and give us seven points. That's what I'm talking about. Like, they need him. They needed him to
Starting point is 00:35:28 at least give you 15, 16, bro. Like, booze going to be booze. Like, you can tell. Hey, like, like I said, he's going to be a top three pick. But he's going to have to have somebody come along for the ride. You know, you got a guy out there playing 17 minutes, got a donut. He didn't even take a shot.
Starting point is 00:35:45 You know what I'm saying? What is that? Huh? He got great cardio. He got great cardio. He got 17 minutes with the cardio in. That ain't enough, man. Like, I know, I know they played well. They played well enough to win.
Starting point is 00:35:58 Shot 52% from the field, 40 from the three. And Yukon didn't play great. They played great when it matter. You know what I mean? When they needed it, when they needed it, they came through, bro. That, their veteran presence that they have over there, it prevailed at the end. man and mullins bro that juggle shoot all the three he was coming off picks and was wide open
Starting point is 00:36:20 i was like bro i say i say hurley if you call one more pin down and let this dude come out this pick and shoot a three and he air ball i say him and uh uh uh caravan yeah yeah yeah he's hey god dang now you don't know how to shoot caravan you've been knocking down three your whole damn career and you And now you get in this game, you can't make one. Mother, you keep coming out of a pick after pick after pick. Air ball, Brick, Brick, and then from 35 foot, he pulled and bang nothing but bottom of the man. Hey, shoot a shoot, Joe, ain't that what they say?
Starting point is 00:36:55 Yeah, shoot a shoot a. Hey, shooters keep on shooting. They, hey, look, they ain't really have, but like two, they had one guy who played pretty good, Reed and Smith. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, but outside of that, okay, Osso, did nobody else, I mean, Smith off the bench, not 18, minutes, nine points, four, for seven, but for the most part, man, this was a, it got, it got to be an ugly game. But
Starting point is 00:37:18 Duke, Duke kicking himself with all them damn turnover. Yeah. You can't keep turning the ball over like that. And I felt like, okay, what concerned me was Duke on the glass, but it wasn't that big of a discrepancy. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:34 34 to 28. You know normally Duke is a plus 10, plus 15 on the glass, because they, they, they, They kill you. Boozer normally has that. What's the other big guy named? You normally, another big guy,
Starting point is 00:37:46 he might have got hurt. But, nah, but this shit, I mean, it's crazy. You're never going to be able to look. And I hate it.
Starting point is 00:37:56 I hate when it's happened to young kids. We see it happen to professionals. And we, you know, we talk about the Billy Buckner situation when they played the Mets and they all went through his leg at first base on the rest up. Jackie Smith went to the Hall of Fame.
Starting point is 00:38:09 But he's known. for dropping a touchdown that would have beat the Steelers for the Cowboys. Things like that linger for, because they're going to play this, Ocho. And I don't know why Boo's just didn't hold on to make it come file you. Yeah. He had two guys ahead him that was wide. Yes.
Starting point is 00:38:25 So I know he was trying to get off the ball so they couldn't file and they could get something easy. But, bro, that little tip, that deflection that they got, that was the deflection of the season, bro. Yep. They were dead meat. They was out of there. Oh, hey. Hey, Joe, if he do this,
Starting point is 00:38:44 I'm holding, you know what, Joe, I just sometimes, sometimes instead of throwing it, you know what I'm saying, Ocho, instead of maybe he drop it, you know what, I'm just going to slide that and let the clock keep moving. Because the clock is my friend. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:56 The clock is not my enemy. The clock my friend. Going out of bounds is the enemy. Turning the ball over is the enemy. Yeah. That's all. Look, and I understand, it took a, bro, it took a shot from God.
Starting point is 00:39:09 Come on. Damn. Ooh. He took it. I mean, Joe, I mean, come on.
Starting point is 00:39:15 It took it, it, it, that's what it took. Bro. I mean, bro had missed every three he taken. Mm-hmm. He took,
Starting point is 00:39:23 uh, and then he banged that one. The one that matter. The one that matter. Nothing but there. Hey, Hey, Hey,
Starting point is 00:39:33 his release was so goddamn quick when he let that thing go to. He had no choice. Oh, Because he deflected it and got it to the other guy. But you know what, Joe, what it is? It's that trailer. Remember the trailer in Villanova, North Carolina? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:48 The guy breaking it up to court, the guy that took it out of bounds was the guy to hit the shot. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You see, brothers was the trailer. He the one that deflected it. He got it up to the court. They come to get him. They kick it back to him.
Starting point is 00:40:04 Back, they needed Mike Green on the call. That would have been a triple bang. Bang! Bang! Bang! Or maybe have John Witherspoon. Rest this old bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang. Hey, that's devil's a bad. It's not like I was sitting here room for Duke,
Starting point is 00:40:23 but when he made that shot, that hurt me, bro. Oh, yeah, yeah. What happened? What transpired? Look, if he didn't turn the ball over and the guy made the shot, I'm okay with it. I'm okay with it. That's an awful lot for a young man to have to live.
Starting point is 00:40:40 with Joe. It is. It is. It is. Look, look, they got all these State Farm commercials now, the booze are twins. Yeah. Hey, damn, well, that's a bad way because you know they probably would have had more come out. Oh, what? If they would have made it to the Final Four? Oh, they don't probably shot a few commercials. I was they're going to say, they didn't already shot them commercials already. Oh, man. Look, look, my favorite ones is Samuel Jackson and Charles Barkley and Magic Johnson now. Oh, yeah. They're the Capital One. Yeah. Man, that hurt.
Starting point is 00:41:14 Oh, that one hurt. I'm hurt for, I ain't hurt for Duke. I ain't put in here and lies that, man, I feel, I do not feel bad for Luke. And I told y'all, hey, A, B, D, anybody but Duke. Right. I don't give them who win. They not winning. And my home boy won't even call me.
Starting point is 00:41:30 I've been calling him, Joe. I've been calling him all day. I called him. Oh, Joe, told him I'm in jail. I say, this is my one-call homeboy. He didn't know. He has a homeboy. Please pick up.
Starting point is 00:41:40 He has a homeboy. He has a homeboy. He, he has. to you yet. I called back, I said, man, I got this burner phone, this dude had this burner phone in jail. I tried it.
Starting point is 00:41:52 Cause with North Carolina loans, man, that joke blew my phone up. So I'm like, hello. I pretend like I'm asleep. So anytime our team lose, we always pretend like we sleep. I'm like, hello. Tell me, you ain't sleep.
Starting point is 00:42:05 I said, come by, yeah, yeah, what's going on? Hey, what would that bracket look like now? Oh, my bracket tore up. Hey, Joe, what yours look like? Man, I don't know. I don't know, Joe. I know I know who bracket is still intact, though. I ain't going to lie to y'all.
Starting point is 00:42:22 You just got Arizona to win. Hey, hey, hey, hey. You got Arizona. You want because you got Arizona going to the final four. Hey. Hey, Ocho. Hey. Hey, I'm happy for you, Ocho.
Starting point is 00:42:34 What you doing? Putting it. Hey. Hey. All he did was pick animals. Hey, listen. All he did with pink animals. Hey, King Ocho, respect me.
Starting point is 00:42:49 Respect me. Huh? Hey, look, I can't believe my horrible did me like that, man. He came out of the phone. I was in jail. Had to get a burner phone. He still was answering for him.
Starting point is 00:43:00 I sit up a text. Asked, is everything okay? He still ain't hit you back. He ain't hit me back yet. It's going to take him about two, three days before he get back at you. Oh, he ain't calling me. He ain't calling me no time.
Starting point is 00:43:11 soon. You brought out a call to them. That's all right. I'm a call. I'm a call Michelle. Hey, but I'm going to tell you all something. Michelle. Can you have birds call me?
Starting point is 00:43:22 Hey, these teams left in the final, going to the final four boy, hey, if you ain't got you no seven-footer down there, you're going to be in some trouble. Hey, it's going to be a long date. You know what I hate? I mean, I hate Michigan. I hate Michigan and Arizona player.
Starting point is 00:43:34 I need them to cross. You want there to be a championship? You want there to be a championship? Yeah, because both of them got, Hey, both of them got some guy, hey, man, Michigan. As a matter of fact, let's go and talk about this Michigan game. Hey, ain't nothing to talk about it. What game?
Starting point is 00:43:48 What game? That wasn't no game. Ah, man, the Dominican LeBron? Yaxsell Lindenborg. Hey, hey, hey. Oh, man, 20, he was doing it all. He's nice, rebound, assistant. They roll, making the most size of the athleticism on both sides of the front court.
Starting point is 00:44:03 Michigan advanced to the final four for the first time since 2018 and the nighttime overall. So next is a showdown with fellow number one seed, Arizona and Saturday's national semifinals. Man, look, this wasn't even close. I was like, look, bro, hey, Texas, y'all need to get back, and y'all need to make some shots because they weren't getting back, Joe,
Starting point is 00:44:25 and they were laying the ball up, dunking them on the other end. I said, this thing is about to get Bubble Sparks. It's about to get ugly. Yeah. Hey, hey, go ahead, Ojo. Now, I was, man, that Bubba Sparks reference. Boy, that caught me off.
Starting point is 00:44:37 That caught me off guard, what did you know about Bubba Spars, what? You know, Bubba from, what, blah from? Was he, he, wasn't he from. He's from Georgia. No, he's from Georgia. Oh, is it? He might be from Tifton.
Starting point is 00:44:51 God damn Bubba Spars, what? Oh, you brought back memories with that one. Yeah, that thing, well, that's what they got for Tennessee because they got ugly in a hurry. Yeah, they, hey, hey, Michigan got some size. They got, they got some experience because Lindenberg, What's, that's his name? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:08 Hey, he, he looks like a young Joe Johnson out there the way he, he lifted Louing up through that thing like that, that, there. Yeah. You see it? Hey, Joe, you can move like that still? Man, come on, man, stop playing with me, Ojo. I'm not playing with you. I'm just saying, you're a little older.
Starting point is 00:45:24 I'm just asking if you can still move like that. Yeah, see, because of the hot yoga that I do, it keeps me nimble. You know where I'm light on my feet. Right, right. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Hey, Joe, I didn't see you do it now. I ain't saying. I didn't see you do it.
Starting point is 00:45:37 I just didn't know you could still do it at this point. I'm going to show you. I'm going to show you better than I can tell you. Don't worry about that. Hey, look, check this out. Check this out. Check this out, though. Man, Michigan got them big boys down low.
Starting point is 00:45:49 Okay, Ojo. You know what I'm saying? They, that big boy Mara down now. They got, they ain't got no stiffs. They got a bunch of guys. Yeah, they got a bunch of guys. He's transferred, Joe. You know, he's from UCLA.
Starting point is 00:46:01 Is he going to be, I think he's going to be a first round pick. Yeah. Yeah. Hey, well, Michigan got a chance. This is going to be a good game against Michigan and Arizona, though. It's going to be a great game. A battle to be. Both of them got size.
Starting point is 00:46:14 Yeah. Both of them got size galore. Both of them got guys that get out and run and transition. Yeah. Both guys got guys that can make shots. Yeah. Yeah, this is going to be a good one. I agree with you.
Starting point is 00:46:25 I wouldn't mind seeing this as a championship title game. Yeah. Hey, man. Tennessee. But that you con, that you con, a line. Nah, gonna be a good game. You know, you can't take that one. No disrespect to the line.
Starting point is 00:46:40 You think so? Hey, I'm telling you, man. They got some jokers down in that paint down in the block. Well, you know, Yukon, come on now. Hey, Ocho. Who got the better, I got one for you, Joe. Who got the better guard play out of Illinois and Yukon? Shit, Illinois.
Starting point is 00:46:58 Who got the better bigs? Illinois got good big. They ain't got no stiff down there. They got seven foot one. seven foot two down now, who can do something. And they play great defense, Ocho. They ain't just an offensive juggernaut. Like, they sit in a chair.
Starting point is 00:47:15 They play defense. I ain't going to be surprised if I look up and see Illinois in the title game. Okay. All right. All right. You want to put a little wage on it? Huh?
Starting point is 00:47:26 Oh, okay. I thought we were going to save our money for when we play Oak and Jordan. Man, you stayed at how about Oak and Jordan. I'm talking about me and you, partner. We ain't don't worry about Oka Jordan. I'm talking about me and you. What are we going to do?
Starting point is 00:47:38 How much you want to put on that, Joe? It ain't got to be nothing, you know. Just a little something, you know. Make it light on yourself. We got to make a little friendly wage or something. It ain't got to be but like a hundred or two. I ain't trying to get you for no, for no grand. A hundred or two.
Starting point is 00:47:54 Yeah. Hey, Joe, we're going to bet, man. You ain't put your money up, man. What you're talking about, man? Now you big bang, hang. Huh? Hey, hey, hey, Joe, that's what they called me. Okay, all right, all right.
Starting point is 00:48:06 Okay, 500, 500. Friendly wager. That's like, Illinois versus Connecticut. I got, I got Yukon, though. Ben, Ben, I got Illinois. Look, five minutes. Okay, do you want to get in this, though? No, I want none of it.
Starting point is 00:48:20 My bracket, my bracket destroyed. The mere fact, this man picked animal, wild animals and beat both of us. Hey, hey, listen, listen. Hey, I can't help it if I know basketball better than y'all. Oh, man. Ain't nothing I can do about that. no basket or ball.
Starting point is 00:48:36 You don't peach basket. It's football. All that joke did it looked like, who got an animal as a mascot? Okay, I got Yukon. Right. Hey, that's why you're going with the Husky. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:48 Yeah. Come on, man. Hey, I don't like the fact that y'all insult my basketball knowledge and prowess. Huh? I knew what I were doing. That's why I won. Hey, King Ocho.
Starting point is 00:49:00 Hey, I'm happy for you, Ocho. I don't have it. I appreciate that. Joe, thank you. I ain't gonna lie. If I didn't win, I'd rather you win versus Uck win because he gonna have him putting on the show when we get on if we got on it. You're right, you're right.
Starting point is 00:49:11 Hey, they make me no kind of graphics or nothing, Joe. Yeah, yeah, you don't need them though. You don't need them. See, I said on Joe, you see, I just stab you in the back just that quick. Here you're by, oh, would have graphic, but just told you you don't need no great. Right, right, right. Hey, Joe, matter of fact, do me a small favor, yo.
Starting point is 00:49:28 Hey, send me that, send me that crown you got over there. You don't need it no more. Who? Who? Who? If you can here. Once you king, you always king. That's the anointed that comes.
Starting point is 00:49:37 You ain't gonna know. Hey, no, no, no. Hey, uh, if I'm not, if I'm not mistaken, didn't the Roman Empire fall? What are you, man? Huh? What, what do you talk about? Once you always came.
Starting point is 00:49:51 Ocho. Ocho. Ocho, because you won and picking the team, where you ain't done nothing physically to deserve the crown. Hey, I didn't beat you physically. I beat you mentally, Joe. Send me the crown.
Starting point is 00:50:04 Oh, oh, you know, when you take somebody build a crown you got to really really you got to really beat you i really beat you joe what are you talking about your bracket is destroyed i beat you fan square so you're so losing that you ain't won yet oh joe don't you know what don't worry about it i go get my own crown and i go to i go to party city don't worry about it's old party city ain't around no more partner they closed they go getting the crowd out of there okay party source i know one of them party stores let me get me my own crown. Go to Burger King.
Starting point is 00:50:35 Nah, come on, that disrespectful. Get your little paper crown. That's what you need. That disrespectful. Look at it. I'm going to get me a crown from the Halloween store.
Starting point is 00:50:45 You got to wait to October. Yeah. Joe, let me know what you think. Paul Pierce believes Steph Curry, LeBron, James, Kevin Durant are no longer good enough to lead team to glory and now need someone better than them on their team to win a championship.
Starting point is 00:51:01 Paul said at this age, KD doesn't influence winning like he used to before in KC and Golden State. He can't be the best player on your championship team right now. I say that about him. I said that about LeBron. I also say that about Steph right now. They can't be the best players on championship teams
Starting point is 00:51:17 at this stage of their career. They need to play along somebody that's better than them. That's why the Lakers look better because they have a player that's better than LeBron on there and that's hard to do. No matter what his stats say, it's just like LeBron, they need players that are better than them that can influence winning because I think they're at the stage of their career
Starting point is 00:51:36 is just hard for them to do all the things necessary to help them win outside of scoring. Yeah, I think it's some truth to that, fellas. Yeah, I agree with. I think they definitely, because, you know, you put so much on Bronn, you put so much on Katie and Steph to lead these teams, and right now as you get up in age, y'all know this, man. You get up in them late 30s, bro.
Starting point is 00:51:58 Yeah. You know, things just kind of started to happen out of nowhere. But you just can't have that physical and mental wear and tear on you that you had in your 20s and 30s. You know, they all burn 41. I know Katie and Steph is on the brink of 40. Yeah, I agree. I think they need some. That's why I even thought, I even figured if they even teamed up, they can help each other.
Starting point is 00:52:22 But, yeah, I think they do need to be playing with some cats who can really help them. amount of compliment their game. Let's say that. Because I think if you get them close enough to the Western Conference Finals or to the finals, I think those guys could potentially win the MVP. Or like a finals. I think they could potentially do that. Yeah, because that's seven games.
Starting point is 00:52:47 Yeah. So if it goes seven games. But I think, I think P is talking about, he's talking about over the course of a season. Yes, I agree. Think about it. At that age, we never asked someone at their ages. to be the best player on a team and lead them to a championship.
Starting point is 00:53:02 Right. Right. You're right. So now we're asking him to do something that I don't know if we, how was Jordan when he won his last championship? So Jordan might have been like 36, 36, 37. Maybe not because he retired three years
Starting point is 00:53:20 and he came back the last two years. He was 40. So he might have been 35 at the, he was 30. Okay, he was 35. Okay. Steph Curry is like 36. Yeah. Or 37.
Starting point is 00:53:33 KD is saying LeBron's 41. So we've never asked someone at their ages to be the best player. And it just goes to show you just how great they are. Yeah. We just have that level of regard for them, that them at that age that we still have a level of expectation. And sometimes I do think it's unrealistic. And he's right.
Starting point is 00:53:52 Those numbers that they normally get up, normally KD score 30, that's damn the automatic win. The 30 doesn't have the same input. Yeah. Yeah, I like it. I agree. I think a lot of people, when Paul Pierce says something like this, I think they would agree. It's just, it's the right message with the wrong messenger. It's the right message with the wrong message. So a lot of people are going to have
Starting point is 00:54:15 pushback because it's Paul Pierce actually saying it, even though there is some true to it. And obviously, again, like to piggyback off what you said, it is a testament to how great they are. The fact that they're still doing it at this level, at their age. And man, shit. And we have an expectation. Yeah. We never had, I mean, if you go back and study history, we never had an expectation of guy at these age, these ages have, okay, y'all going to lead a team. That ain't, no, we never had that.
Starting point is 00:54:42 And we just go to show you just how great they were. But as also, it happens. Do you don't have the same influence? Look at Brady's numbers. He was throwing numbers, but they didn't impact the game. Right. Hey, I got a question too. Yes.
Starting point is 00:54:58 is excuse me for my lack of knowledge. If LeBron wanted to, is LeBron, I mean, is Luca really better than LeBron? Or is the fact that Lucas allowed the green light to take as many shots as he does? Yeah, at this stage, he's better than LeBron. LeBron, just sustain it. I mean, LeBron, LeBron is only playing like 34, 35 minutes. He's only taking about 16 shots a game. You heard what you just said?
Starting point is 00:55:26 He's only taking. if he was to have the same output he did when he was with the Miami Hilaeer when he was the Cavaliers his hook was still just to sustain that he can't play 30 he can't play 38 39 minutes anymore can't and not give you that productivity to where he giving you 30 and 10
Starting point is 00:55:46 and 8 nah I think that's that's challenging I think he'll have he'll definitely have games like that you know they'll come you know every so often but for the moment or you can't do it consistently night in night out. Man, what we talk about the other night?
Starting point is 00:56:02 Man, this is a young man's game, bro. Yes. Yeah, you do right. You ask you, think about it, Ocho, you're asking a man 41 years of age to go out there and give you that number to exert that kind of energy
Starting point is 00:56:12 on a nightly basis. Luca 26. Hey, a, FGA, probably 26, 27. Look at, look at an ant man.
Starting point is 00:56:24 Look at he's got, look at Wimby. Look at JT. Look at J.T. Look at he got. All these guys in the early to late 20s. You know, it's funny when you say that too. And when I look at Luca, I look at it, I look at his style of play.
Starting point is 00:56:38 He doesn't play it above the rim, you know. The movements to me, Joe, maybe I'm tripping. They look slow. Maybe I'm tripping. It looks slow as hell, but every goddamn thing always work. Everything always work. I don't understand what it is. I don't know what kind of goddamn training he do,
Starting point is 00:56:55 but it looks easy to stop from the naked eye watching from home. Yeah. But nobody could goddamn stop it. Hey, Ocho, that's called being deceptive. You know, meaning it may look like I'm not moving fast and it may look like you can stay in front of me, but the way I take angles and cut you off, you know what I'm saying,
Starting point is 00:57:15 when you guard me, having a quick first step, using my pump fake, using my pivot foots, bro, you can't, you can, there ain't no one player guard in that. What you have to do is hope that he have an off night. But he's going to take enough shots to where he's going to get 25 or 30. Yeah. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:57:34 Because he's got to be shooting. He got to be put. If Luca taking the most shots, because Luca got to be taking 20 plus shot, 22, 23 shots a night. I mean, in order to be leading the league like that here, yeah. Hey, that's his, his offense is his defense, bro. And that's why when he play against certain cats,
Starting point is 00:57:51 whether it's Boston or whoever or, or, or, or Minnesota. He wants to try to get the guy who's guarding him. He want to get him in foul trouble. He want to get in the bonus. He want to get to the frito line. He want to get himself going. And being deceptive like that, Ocho,
Starting point is 00:58:05 you ain't got to be the fastest, the quickest, the most explosive. You just have to have a high IQ and an understanding or how to manipulate the game in your favor. And he does that every night, bro. Every night. Every night. He's taking 23 shots a night. Hey, him and young bull from,
Starting point is 00:58:23 young boy from Denver who'll be moving in slow motion too. Who, Yokic? Slow motion. Hey. I don't think Yokish might be taking like 19 shots. How many shots Yokch is taking 17.4 shots a night. Efficient. Efficient is hell.
Starting point is 00:58:40 Hey, listen, Luca, how many do you say Luca taking? 23. Yeah, see, he's shooting 16 of them in the first quarter. For sure. He's shooting 15, 60s. You ain't lying. He's shooting 15, 16, 16 shots. in the first quarter, bro.
Starting point is 00:58:55 In the first quarter, he's getting this off. He ain't playing. Oh, hell, no. Hold on. I got his bathroom. Go ahead. Yeah, but look, and that's it. It's a young man's game.
Starting point is 00:59:08 And like you said, in the role that they got LeBron in, I think they could, you know, get out the first round. It all depends on who they get in the second round. But, yeah, he doesn't need to be that guy. Nah, he don't need to be that guy. And I think the beautiful part about it is he knows that. That's why he comes out and he plays that role. He plays the role that he knows the Lakers need.
Starting point is 00:59:32 That he know they don't need him coming out shooting 22, 25 shots a night. He know they don't need that. He need to be more of a glue guy. And then they're going to be opportune times that's going to come or that's going to present themselves. And he knows he's going to have to step up. And him having big games, it makes them a more dangerous team. So I don't mind seeing, you know, the stats that I've been saying for Brum
Starting point is 00:59:56 because I know when it's time to turn it up another notch. He got another notch that two he can go. I don't think LeBron has a problem being the third option. As long as Austin Reeves is doing what he's doing. Absolutely. Giving you those 24, 24, 26, 28. Lucas is going to give you in the mid-30s. So LeBron pulling up the third slot with 20, 21, 22.
Starting point is 01:00:19 Okay, fine. is what they might get into trouble is that all of a sudden Austin Reeves have an off night. Yeah, yeah. Because Luke is going to shoot enough and going to get to the fire line that he's going to, you know,
Starting point is 01:00:31 he's going to get 12, 13 free throws. Yeah. Hey, but man, listen, AR has been consistent over this season. I'm happy for him. I want him to get paid. I want him to get his money. I want him to continue to keep playing well.
Starting point is 01:00:45 Because if he, like you say, if AR is playing at this rate, And Brun can kind of be free safety. You know what I mean? He can kind of roam. He can be the playmaker. He can score when the E.B. You know, he can be that demon and transition every now and then.
Starting point is 01:01:03 I enjoy watching the Lakers, man. They showed me a lot. I hope they've grown from, you know, the last postseason getting swept. So I'm sure that's left for sour taste in their mind. And when they get back in the postseason, I'm sure they're going to be looking to, you know, make some noise and try advance as far as possible. 5-1 didn't it last year? 4-1 last year, didn't he? They lost 4-1.
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