Club Shay Shay - Nightcap - Hour 2: Mavs riddle with injuries + Dallas owner talks Luka Doncic trade

Episode Date: March 23, 2025

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson recap the top NBA stories of the week including the Dallas Mavericks at risk of forfeiting games due to injuries and owner Patrick Dumont's comm...ents on trading Luka Doncic, and more!04:20 - Mavericks at risk of forfeiting games06:13 - Mavericks owner Patrick Dumont speaks on Luka trade26:10 - Bucks vs. Lakers Recap(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:04:54 The Mavs are at risk of forfeiting games if they fall below the minimum 8 players active required for teams to play. ESPN Bobby Marks Dallas provided an update on Anthony Davis left adductor strain. Derrick Lively II right ankle stress fracture. Daniel Gaffer right knee sprain. Stating all three are improving. However, there is no timeable on any of their returns. Jaden Hardy, right ankle sprain. Kai Jones, quad, haven't played since March 3rd. PJ
Starting point is 00:05:31 Washington, right ankle sprain, has been out since March 1st. But now it leaves Brandon Williams, Dwight Powell, Klay Thompson, Najay Marshall, Caleb Martin, Max Christie, Spencer Denwitty, Kessler Edwards as the lone healthy players, a total. Nobody else can get in there, Joe. Nah, they can't. They can't. Listen, hey, why would they, why would they penalize the team because people are hurt?
Starting point is 00:05:59 I don't, I don't understand. Do they think they faking or something? Just to make sure you don't. The same way you talk about why team, why team don't want to win games to try to tank and try to get the number one pick to get more ping pong balls? I thought you played the game to win. Well listen, we know they're not doing that.
Starting point is 00:06:17 The same way teams used to put players on IR to hide them, because the guys, because if you released them, somebody might get them, so we put them on IR to hide them because the guys, because if you released them, somebody might get them. So we put them on IR. Right. Okay. Man, you know, anytime there's, anytime, look, people gonna find a way to skirt the system.
Starting point is 00:06:35 No matter what system is in place, you know what? I got bad credit. I'm gonna put the phone in my kid name, you see? I remember them days, because I sure had a wash and dry in my name and I was only two. Classic. Ocho Maverick's owner, Patrick Dumont, defended the Luka trade. Take a listen, Ocho, to what he had to say. So tough decisions are never easy. And part of leadership is looking at risk and looking at all the factors of a decision and being willing to act at that time and look to the long term.
Starting point is 00:07:13 And not only think about the short term or how it may be may be received immediately, but to think about the long term benefits and what it may allow you to achieve if given all the right considerations. Man, what are you talking about? What are you talking about? No disrespect, Pat. No disrespect. But the long-term move was having Luca there.
Starting point is 00:07:37 Now, if you're having issues with what he does off the court, there's a simple conversation that needs to be had. That's all you have to do. Listen, we view you as our long-term plan, a long-term asset, the long-term nucleus for our team going into the future. We want to build around you because we understand how special you are and what you can do for us. You just got us to the NBA finals last year. The previous year, based on what you can do on the court, now you let that go. But great understanding, Lucas ain't just falling from the tree every season. They're just not happening. There's really no way you can defend that trade.
Starting point is 00:08:17 Now, understand the issues that were happening off the court, some of the things that they didn't see fit, that would probably harm him, you know, year down the line. That's a simple conversation, unk. Especially when you want to invest that kind of money that he was going to make. He probably still got to make it, just gonna happen to be somewhere else now. You don't let a player of that magnitude go that hat that gives you that type of production. You don't.
Starting point is 00:08:43 Cause like you said, like you said as well, when is the last time something like this has ever happened before? There's a reason. There's a reason why there's certain players you don't let go of. You think every super, super superstar is perfect behind the scenes. You think Kobe didn't have issues despite his dedication and discipline and structure when it came to playing? You think Michael Jordan didn't have issues that we don't know about outside of playing
Starting point is 00:09:11 the game of basketball? Come on, man. Ain't nobody perfect a 10 to 10 when it comes to wanting to invest in it, but understanding what they give you from a business perspective and what they can do on the court long term come on man stop playing that that answer was a whole a whole bunch of nothing the problem is that he called it a long term move and nico harrison said it was a trade to win now move i'm looking at it you just went to the nba finals like you said ocho that's winning now i'm just went to the NBA finals like you said, Ocho. That's winning now. I'm confused when you, I can see, okay, we got some answers.
Starting point is 00:09:51 But you said you're trying to win now. Bro, you just went to the NBA finals. You just did that. It's not like you hadn't made the playoff in a couple years, Ocho. It's not like you got knocked out in the first round, Ocho. It was a situation, you went to the NBA finals. So that is winning, you're winning.
Starting point is 00:10:09 Now you didn't win the ultimate prize, but damn, normally we don't see a team. Break a team up, and that's what they did because you took the key piece out. After going to an NBA finals, unless said individual is unhappy. But because Luke could never voice that I wanted to be traded, that's what's so surprising. That's why the greatest trade. Kareem wanted to leave. Orlando allowed Shaq to become a free agent.
Starting point is 00:10:39 And they had a poll and they said, who should they pay, Penny or Shaq? And the poll said they should pay Penny. Shaq took that as an insult, as disrespectful, a slap in the face. He said, okay, that's what y'all wanna do. Boom. They also said it was too much money
Starting point is 00:10:58 because I forget who it was that had just become the highest paid. And they accepted to the fact that I don't think, they didn't think the fans didn't think Shaq deserved that kind of money. So, guys like Shaq, you don't let them become free agents. You try to extend them as soon as you possibly can. As soon as the window open
Starting point is 00:11:22 and you could offer them a max contract, you give it to them. A 24 year old Shaq and well we see what happened when he went to uh he went to the Lakers but normally guys like Luca don't get traded unless they ask to get traded. Kareem asked to get traded. Kareem asked to get traded. Kareem was a three time league MVP, he was a finals MVP, he had gone to the finals, he had won the scoring title. He wanted to get out of Milwaukee.
Starting point is 00:11:56 They obliged him. Guys this age, this skill, this talented, this dominant, you're not just moving them on your own volition. Doesn't happen. Not at this age. Now, it come a time, we saw AI get traded, but AI wasn't 25. And AI didn't have to get traded,
Starting point is 00:12:17 but the organization thought it was in the best interest, thought some of the things that were going on off the court, and they moved on from AI. But 25 year old AI, they ain't moving it. Not you. And so I'm saying, but I, no, I was just saying, you understand the product. You understand the product that you're getting. I also, I use, I use a scenario last night, American gangster, Denzel Washington, Cuban Union Jr.
Starting point is 00:12:47 There's nothing wrong with Blue Magic. You got Blue Magic, why are you touching it? Why are you touching it? There's nothing wrong with it. It's perfectly fine just how it is. The product sells itself. Luca is the product. It sells itself.
Starting point is 00:13:03 Why are you touching it? What are we doing? A player of his magnitude. You know what? All the hookah, all the beer. God damn it. You've been part of the NBA, GMs, presidents, managers.
Starting point is 00:13:18 You understand everybody drink. Everybody smoke. Everybody does some things, some extracurricular things outside of that as well. But we ain't trading them. Especially talk about this is for long term, long term what? Lucas ain't walking through that door.
Starting point is 00:13:37 If they were, if Lucas would walk up to that door, I mean, a lot of other teens would have success a lot more frequently. Come on, man. Luca is not a generational talent. Luca is a transcendent talent. Because the generation is 20 years. You guys don't come along.
Starting point is 00:13:59 Jai, this is transcendent. He's, he's, he's, and for me, Ocho, if I'm Patrick Dumont, if I'm anybody, Nico Harrison, if I'm anybody in the Mavericks organization, I am not going to talk about this because all you do stirring old poop, it still stinks. All you do is peel the scab off a wound that that's still very fresh but it's starting to scab over you just ripped the scab off and got to start this thing all over again because all the fans heard is like man this man trick I can't believe this man and did you hear what he's saying that's what the fans are thinking did you hear what he's saying he took my long-term go
Starting point is 00:14:41 messed up like we just went to the NBA final yourself You lie to yourself Yeah, but if I'm them I'm done talking about this time this is this subject oh Joe I Am break. I'm not bringing. I'm not bringing it up no more. Oh Joe because because I can't there is no win At some point time you got to come to the conclusion, Ocho. There is nothing you can say. Even if you were to win a title, people like, you know what people are gonna say? We could have won a title with Luka. Who's to say, who's to say we want to win
Starting point is 00:15:18 that title with Luka, Ocho? Yeah. Well, you know, he won't have to worry about that because they're not going to be able to win a title. Ocho, the pain did not stop there for Dallas Southwest Airline after 54 years decided to up there, the check bag policy. And now they're charging customers by throwing shade at the house. It's not like we traded Luca. That's a good one. That's a good one.
Starting point is 00:15:43 That's a great business is all about advertising. How do we grasp the viewing eye and make them say, oh, that was good. You know what? I want to fly with them despite them changing the policy and finally having to pay for bags. That was so clever. I'm going to fly with Southwest just because. I mean, I'm not changing you know my my my my love for Spirit Air, Spirit Airlines but that was a good one that was great advertising I don't know who came up with that even it was short
Starting point is 00:16:13 quick and to the point perfect scenario because the thing gives Ocho is that you know there are certain things that are catchy, like the State Farm, like Flow with Progressive, like Allstate with Mayhem, like Bud Weiser. Yeah, yeah, Bud, why? You know what I'm saying? The Clydesdale, remember the Clydesdale commercial with the horses and the dogs and so forth and so on. That's what he wanted to be.
Starting point is 00:16:40 Hey, I don't know who that Allstate, the Mayhem commercials, but he's classic. I don't know who that Allstate, the Mayhem commercials, but he's classic. I don't know who's behind the creative, directing on, but he is, that's classic. Oh, that's me. Right. Jake from State Farm, Mayhem from Allstate, Flo from Progressive. Really? That's synonymous.
Starting point is 00:17:00 I mean, I don't know what Flo is going to do. Hey, you remember the win this commercial with grandma? Where's the beef? Yeah, I remember that. Yeah. So in this situation right here, I mean, look, this is maybe over time because eventually, 20, 30 years from now,
Starting point is 00:17:22 people will remember Milwaukee traded Kareem. You don't remember that. People think Kareem played his whole career in LA. He didn't. He didn't. That happens. It definitely, it happens. And he was homegrown.
Starting point is 00:17:42 We took a young kid out of Slovenia, not extremely terribly athletic. He doesn't jump very high. He doesn't run very fast. He doesn't run very fast. All I know, he puts the ball in the basket and an elite level. He has the third highest scoring average in NBA history, only behind Michael Jordan, Will Chamberlain and it's Luca Donahue. History. History. He has the second highest scoring average in playoff history behind one Michael Jordan. They're not gonna forget that soon over time. Yeah. You know we forget a lot of stuff over time. That's just the way the human mind is after a while,
Starting point is 00:18:26 but it ain't happening anytime soon. And because anything that he does, you know people are gonna go back. And plus we got internet. Maybe it'd have been different if Kareem came up in an era where you had internet and you had 24 hour news cycles and people talk sports all the time, 24 hours a day, 365, maybe it'll be different. But sports is different now than what it was back then,
Starting point is 00:18:52 Ocho, is vastly different because the way we cover it, the way we talk about it, the way we consume it. And with all that being said, people gonna be mad in Dallas at the Maverick for a long ass time. Yeah. So. He's not gonna make it no easier on his end
Starting point is 00:19:13 playing the way he's playing. When LeBron come back and they continue to have success together on the court, it's going to always be brought up over and over and over and over. This is who they traded. Hey, but don't let that don't let don't lose Saturday I understand y'all didn't trade Luca but y'all charging for check bags now so let's let's let's let's keep the
Starting point is 00:19:35 focus on the focus I get it's very catchy it's not like we traded Luca but y'all charging money for those bags and I remember when they first instituted charging for check bags, Ocho. I was like, man, everybody like, that ain't gonna last long, that ain't gonna last long, people gonna stop flying. Okay, well how you gonna get from California to Florida? How you gonna get from New York to South Carolina?
Starting point is 00:19:56 Exactly. You ain't gonna drive, I know that. You gonna fly? Hell nah. So, and guess what? What normally happens is that when one airline does something, what does everybody else do? Follow right behind.
Starting point is 00:20:09 Follow right behind because you got to make it up for a reason. They charge you for check bags for a reason. You got to make money. This is a business no matter how you see it. And think about the money, because think about it, Ocho. They give you one and then they charge you if the bag is of a certain weight.
Starting point is 00:20:27 Yeah. They charge you what? How much is it? A dollar a pound? For real. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I do my best, I do my best, regardless of how long I'm going somewhere,
Starting point is 00:20:39 they'll always take a carry-on. I take a carry-on and a duffel. I try not to take suitcases. I try to do the same thing, but sometimes when you travel in eight cities in 10 days, sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do. Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait, wait, wait, wait one minute.
Starting point is 00:20:57 Now listen, you can always use my method, a method I've been using for a very long time. It's very, it's cost efficient and it works going from city to city. Now, if you got, what, how many days you say eight cities in 10 days? Now, if you got eight cities in 10 days, what you have to understand is,
Starting point is 00:21:13 all you have to do is take three pair of shoes, use the same outfit, have a bunch of underwear, tank tops and t-shirts, always change, but use the same outfit, but change your shoes after each city because the outfit resets itself. So if you're in Chicago on Monday and you got to go to say, let's say LA on Tuesday, all you do is wear the same outfit, but change your shoes and the outfit resets itself based on a
Starting point is 00:21:35 different location. So that's the state of the matter. You're trying to figure out. You're trying to figure out multiple outfits. Now, they're just something I do and still do to this day, especially when you have to do things back to back to back and you happen to do signings and appearances for Le Portier. Okay, well let me understand. You think I go with shorts and tank top in Connecticut and Chicago right now?
Starting point is 00:21:59 All you need is a little jacket. You can put a little jacket in your duffel real quick. Boom, you good. Oh hoodie, you don't need much. You used to the cold, you played in jacket. You can put a little jacket in your duffel real quick. Boom, you good. Oh, hoodie. You don't need much. You're used to the cold. You played in Denver. You played in Baltimore.
Starting point is 00:22:10 Boy, that was 20 years ago. Nah, listen. I'm just trying to save you on your traveling expenses. Not only expenses, but being able to travel efficient and light. Two pair of shoes. Yeah. Same sweatsuit.
Starting point is 00:22:23 Matter of fact, you have a black sweatsuit and a gray one. Yeah. same sweatsuit. Matter of fact, you have a black a black sweatsuit and a great one and you can those are interchangeable and you just change the shoes. I pay a white Air Force one and a pair of black ones. I got white Air
Starting point is 00:22:37 Force ones and that's it. It goes with everything. See, that's why the outfits probably the outfits. I don't know. They probably stand up in the corner by themselves when I take them off. It works though. It works. It works. Yeah. Yeah. I hate going to, I just want to come out the airport and hop right into the car and I'm off. I don't want to stand around bagging claim and I mean, fan, I want to say this. If you see a person standing around baggage claim, don't ask them what they're doing.
Starting point is 00:23:15 If I see you standing around baggage claim, what do you think I think you're doing, Osho? Wait on my bag. What are you doing here? I'm not gonna lie. What are you doing here? Yeah, I can't I can't I can't get some crab cakes. He's just trying to start a little conversation. Really not know how you do. Hey, hey, how you
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Starting point is 00:25:30 Energy Line with Nate and JSP is the name of the podcast and it's gonna be, well, it's gonna be quite the ride. We're officially line mates, Nate. We're the Energy Line. We'll have plenty of folks join us, current players, some of my former teammates, Hall of Famers, and wait players, some of my former teammates, Hall of Famers, and wait till you see some of the connections that Julie has. She has quite the Rolodex.
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Starting point is 00:29:00 They can't be fixed with by what's right with it Listen to the new season of here's the thing on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Bucks beat the Lakers by 21-26 to 1-6. That's three straight losses. The three teams behind them in the standings are all riding winning streak. Houston, four games. Golden State, five games. Minnesota, six games. Big trip tomorrow to end the road trip in Denver back to back. The Lakers wasted an outstanding, an outstanding performance by Luka Doncic. Luka is the youngest Lakers player to have 45 points, 10 rebounds in a game since 1962. Oh 45. Magic had... what did Magic have in that playoff game Ash?
Starting point is 00:29:59 Was it 42? He might have had 42. But anyway, he's the youngest Laker to have 45 points 10 rebounds in the game since 1962 the problem tonight was the guys that can score they don't really got defend very well Luca and AR guys that can defend can't score the ball. Fannie Smith, Vanderbilt, that's the issue that you had. Luca and AR played extremely well. Nobody else did much. And that's the problem that you're gonna have. They got crushed on the Magic half 42-15, okay. The Lakers shot 44% from the floor.
Starting point is 00:30:43 They allowed the Milwaukee to shoot 48. They shot 38% from the three. They allowed the Milwaukee to shoot 48. They shot 38% from the three. They allowed the Bucks to shoot 43. Turnovers, wasn't that vast. 14 for the Lakers, 12 for the Bucks. They did get out rebounding by 10 on the offensive glass. But look, and that's the problem that you're gonna have right now.
Starting point is 00:31:01 They're scrambling, they're undersized. Like I said again, and I don't like to be the dead horse, but I don't know why they signed Alex Lin. If he's, I mean, he big for no reason. I mean, probably God thinking like, man, if I didn't know you was gonna be like this, I wouldn't have gave you all this. Like, it ain't no sense of you.
Starting point is 00:31:19 Ain't no sense of you. But he pretty soon, he about to be the tallest coach ever. That's where he headed. That's his next occupation, Ocho. Coach. I don't wanna talk bad about him. Maybe he just hasn't come into his own yet. Maybe he's lacking a little bit of confidence,
Starting point is 00:31:33 having that type of size, that type of length. And to be playing in the NBA, you have to be of some type of use. I haven't seen it yet. He's saying for Tom. Listen, I know, I haven't seen it yet. He said, but I don't listen. I know I saw for myself, no Jackson Hayes tonight. No LeBron, no Rui. I think the game would have been a little bit more
Starting point is 00:31:51 competitive, obviously, if the Lakers was healthy. Obviously, Luka did all he could do. But as you said, those that score can't play defense. Those who play defense, they can't goddamn score. So not having LeBron, his hurt, I think he's gonna be like this for the next week or two until he can get himself back in health. Luke is gonna have to do his best.
Starting point is 00:32:14 Luke is gonna have to do his best and carry the load as much as he can. And hopefully, the supporting cast can have nights, those that can score can have nights when they're on and be a little bit more efficient and and pick up the slack being that LeBron is not there. You look at Luca they scored 106 points Ocho Luca gave you 45 Austin Reed gave you 28 that's 70s crazy. They got 30 they got 33. three, one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine. The nine other players score 33 points. One guy scored 10. So that means they got 23 from the other eight.
Starting point is 00:32:53 And now you look at, you look at the bucks. Yonis was a sister away from a triple double 24, 12 and nine. Brooke Lopez, 23. Dane, 22. Kevin Porter Jr Jr., 22, Gary Trimett, Jr., 16. When you get that kind of production, when you get that kind of balance scoring
Starting point is 00:33:12 and the scoring is so lopsided on the other side, well, that's kind of what you're gonna get. You're gonna get a situation where you get blown out and like we said, we were talking about it at the top, Ocho, those that can score don't defend, those that can defend can't score. So what do you do? You've, I mean, they would have literally had to play a perfect game.
Starting point is 00:33:30 Oh, yeah. Luca and Luca and AR give you what they gave you, but other guys were going to have to knock down shots. I mean, Luca can't play any better. I mean, some of the shots that he was hitting, you're like, damn, damn. And they got the game within what, two, three. And next thing, you know, the bugs go on a 10 run or 12 run and push it back to 14.
Starting point is 00:33:51 The Lakers claw it back. They go on a 15, 15, two, 15, three run and push it back out. And then the Lakers could get no closer than no closer than that. It's just LeBron could not have. And it's not his fault. So I don't want people to say, oh, it's like you could help. But LeBron injury could not have, and it's not his fault. So I don't want people to say, oh, it's like you couldn't help. But LeBron injury could not have come
Starting point is 00:34:08 at a worse time, Ocho. This is, I mean, they got, they were playing extremely well and then he gets hurt. Now what do you do? And I said this at the time, I do not believe they're gonna be in second place. They're not gonna be in second place. They got to hope they can hold his thing off
Starting point is 00:34:23 and not get in the play-in, which is seven through 10, because they got an uphill climb. They got the nuggets tomorrow. They got the nuggets, the nuggets tomorrow. Now, Brooke Lopez had 23. What the hell you think Yoke going to do? Well, listen, it don't matter who Yoke playing, he gonna get 29, 30 each night regardless. Listen, Yoke could be playing the goddamn five disciples on the court. He gonna score. He gonna get his points no matter what. For some reason, I wouldn't be surprised. I wouldn't be surprised as good as Denver's been playing all year long and despite the Lakers not having LeBron, watch they shock you tomorrow. For some reason, watch the Lakers shock you tomorrow and just
Starting point is 00:35:06 so happened to stumble up on a win despite the Brawn not playing. Lucas probably gonna have another good game. AR. Lucas need to go for 70. Luca would need to go for 70. AR need to go for 35 and then the other guys need to go for 30. And you know, don't be surprised if it happened. I'm not saying it because, because I'm saying it. I'm just saying the way sports goes in general,
Starting point is 00:35:28 for some reason it always happens like that. They've lost three and all of a sudden they play Denver, you expect them to lose, especially those that like the gamble, they mess around and win tomorrow night, watch. Now watch what I tell you. I would have, had they not gotten blown out last night by Minnesota, I might have agreed with you, Ocho. I might have looked had they not gotten blown out last night by Minnesota.
Starting point is 00:35:48 I might've agreed with you, Ocho. I might've agreed with you, but because they got blown out at home by milk, by Minnesota, I don't see that happening. Mike Malone have them very focused. That left a nasty taste in their mouth. They know, uh, without, I mean, they let a man go off, uh, Ju-Randall went off, and they got beat by almost 20 on their home court. They'll be fired up, that crowd will be rocking, and if you watch this team over the last four to five years,
Starting point is 00:36:16 they get up like no other to play the Lakers. Okay. They get up to play the Lakers. The Lakers are everybody's championship, I mean, especially the Nuggets. Some teams you get up to play the Lakers. The Lakers are everybody's champions. I mean, especially the Nuggets. Some teams you get on to play for like now is Kansas City, used to be the Patriots. Everybody play their best when they play in the Cowboys. That's what the Lakers are up against now. And I expect that the Nuggets to put their best foot forward. I expect them to play some
Starting point is 00:36:40 of their best ball because they are ticked off that they let Minnesota come in there and do what they did to them last night. Oh man. But yeah, it's tough. I mean, and they were playing so well, Ocho. The Lakers had been playing extremely well. Luca and LeBron had started to figure it out. Luca was going to have the ball in his hand.
Starting point is 00:37:00 LeBron was going to dive and slash to the basket, going to get to the post up. He post up at the top of the key, post up on the side, now he can see over the assist totals were really high cause you got two of the best passes in NBA history with the ball in their hands, a large part. AR, taking a little pressure off AR because now your two best defenders gotta guard LeBron and Luca.
Starting point is 00:37:19 So now AR is getting the third and fourth best defender. He's gonna do what he does. So everything had really, really started to go well. And then just like that. You know, it's funny. Honestly, it's pretty much the same thing that happened to Dallas. You know, everybody questions the trade.
Starting point is 00:37:37 They look good, they look decent for a little bit. 80 goes down. Okay, we still got Kyrie. We got something to live off of. We got some hope. We still got a superstar that can put butts in the seats to at least get the viewers' attention. He goes down. Damn. So the Lakers looked like the trade that they had. It was winning. LeBron playing well. Luka playing well. They're going on a winning streak. Luka showing flashes of what he used to be. Then he score on 30. He cutting the fool. LeBron cutting the fool. Some of the presses off of him, he don't have to bring the ball up the court. He can play freely. Take over a game when he want to.
Starting point is 00:38:15 Now he go down. Hey, it's sports, baby. That's what makes the game so beautiful. It's sports, baby. That's what makes the game so beautiful Yeah, it whoo sometimes oh Joe you gotta you gotta laugh to keep up man, that's a good one right there boy That's a good one. You gotta laugh to keep you know who the leg know the leg use right now Whoever the who ever the triple-double in high school Nobody ain't nobody out there can help the Lakers right now. Boy, you never seen me put the ball on the floor now. Well, you never see my mid-range game. You ain't never seen me come out come out the pick and roll and pull up.
Starting point is 00:38:58 And don't play. Oh, so you could pick and pop? I could pick and pop, but I could pick and pop better than the stripper. I tell you no lie. That's, yeah, it's, like I said, you look at Houston's playing well, you look at Minnesota's playing well, Golden State's playing well
Starting point is 00:39:18 since the addition of Jimmy Butler. The Lakers, and as good as those teams were playing, the Lakers were playing better. But it just so happens sometimes injuries happen at the most inopportune times and hopefully you have a team that's good enough to overcome that can keep the ship steady until said player comes back or said players come back when in this case is really one. Yeah we'd love to get Rui back, we love to get Jackson Hayes back but the one guy that you could you could ill afford to lose is Ron James Because he's a guy that does a lot of what kind of like when you got here and Luca You know, they're gonna give you 50 to 60 points between the two of them
Starting point is 00:39:53 They're gonna give you somewhere between 18 and 20 rebounds between the two of them and they're gonna probably give you 20 assists between The two of them so you count you can count on that now All three gives you what he gives you, which is somewhere between 18 and 20 points on a nightly basis. Rui chips in and gives you his 14. Now, whatever we get from Fannie Smith, whatever we get from Gabe Benson, we take it.
Starting point is 00:40:18 We know Jackson Hayes gonna roll, gonna give us some second chance opportunities. We know he's gonna roll to the basket, dive to the basket, catch a couple of lobs, get a couple of put backs. Right now we don't really have that. We don't have that, we don't have a big, we're playing undersized. Yonis is just getting whatever he wants,
Starting point is 00:40:38 getting to the basket. Brooke Lopez getting offensive rebounds, getting whatever he wants. So it was really a tough night um the effort i i don't think i don't think jj is going to be really pleased with the effort there's a lot of times kevin porter jr hit three i think three straight threes in the uh in the third quarter i mean i mean wide open shoot around threes can't't have that. They gotta be better, they gotta be locked in, and guys gotta know their responsibility
Starting point is 00:41:07 and close out without filing, and they gotta get the ball once the ball goes. Your job is not done once the guy misses the shot. Your job is done once you grab the rebound. Because if he misses the shot and you don't grab the rebound, what have you actually done? It's kinda like, oh, Joe, you and I talk about on third down,
Starting point is 00:41:25 you get a team to third down. If you can't get them off the field, what good is getting them to third down? None, cause listen, if they get a third down and they... They keep doing it, they gonna get them all limbs on them. That's demoralizing. That's demoralizing. Yes.
Starting point is 00:41:41 It's extremely demoralizing. But Leggis got to find a way to do something. And I don't know if, like I said, LeBron is probably going to be out for at least another week. Probably the earliest you can expect to see LeBron James is probably next weekend. And there's a good chance Ocho, they could be in the seventh or the eighth spot by then. Unless something drastically happened, like I said, especially starting tomorrow night, they just happened to win.
Starting point is 00:42:06 Even though you say how teams get up to play the Lakers, I just have a feeling just with understanding of how sports work, regardless of what the sport is, whether it be soccer, whether it be football, whether it be basketball, tennis, it's just for some reason where things are, when you think about a team that's playing, they're not playing well, they have a star that's going. For some reason, the team always plays well against a team that you just know they're going to lose to, and they just surprise you. I really have a feeling, I don't know why.
Starting point is 00:42:37 So people out there, if you're a gambler, I really would pick the Lakers and win them all, despite it being Denver, despite what Joker and Murray are doing. I just think so. Yeah, I might pick the Lakers with somebody else's money, but if it's my money, I'm not picking the Lakers, because I value my money a little bit more than that. With that being said, we'll see what happens. I mean, hey, Milwaukee, you know, you're gonna get in late tonight to Denver, and you gotta, you know, you're going to get in late tonight to Denver and you got to, you know, you got to shoot around tomorrow. And then, you know, you go back, get your nap and then hopefully, you know, you put your best foot forward and see what happens.
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