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Episode Date: January 2, 2026

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to Micah Parsons defending Trevon Diggs after being released by the Dallas Cowboys, Lamar Jackson plans to play on Sunday for the finale vs the Pittsburgh Steelers, and the Miami Dolphins are bringing in Troy Aikman as consultant for GM search and much more! Subscribe to Nightcap presented by PrizePicks so you don’t miss out on any new drops! Download the PrizePicks app today and use code SHANNON to get $50 in lineups after you play your first $5 lineup! Visit https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/NI... 0:00 - Micah Parsons defending Trevon Diggs on Twitter8:20 - Lamar Jackson playing on Sunday against Steelers25:20 - Dolphins bring in Troy Aikman to consult on GM search37:55 - Burrow and Chase on Bengals’ disappointing season48:35 - Giants expected to look at all options per Rappaport50:40 - Bills asking fans to help shovel snow1:00:25 - Q & Aaayyy (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Oh, Cho! Michael was active today on Twitter. Oh, excuse me. X. Defending his new teammate, Trayvon Diggs. First, a cowboy beat writer tweeted, Trayvon Diggs grave per football focus.

I don't even look at pro football focus. 2020, it was 67.2. Then 21, it was 59.6. 22 it was 66.9 and 23 it was 80.2 only two games though 24 it was 56.6 and 25 was 56.1. Statistically he's the worst corner in the league right now and the tape is even worse maybe we owe those guys that pro football focus an apology. Ocho? Yes sir. Then Micah responded I feel like what the point they're trying to publicly disrespect someone he's not representing the star anymore just give the man a farewell wish him

the best i don't know why everything has to be negative every time breakup happens he's better he's in a better situation right now trust me bro gonna be great again then he added y'all want me to feel bad jerry jones slammed my name to the cowboys media and national media for months so do i think i can react to comments if i want to respectfully Yeah, man. What'd you think it? I mean, listen, I mean, Michael, at some point, he's tired of it. Obviously, when things don't work out, why is it always the media?

Why not wish the players farewell? Why do you always have to bring up the negative about him on why he's going and where he's at right now? And I don't understand. It's tasteless to me. It's classless to me. Most times when other players from other teams, they get traded. They send him their farewells.

They say thank you, appreciate your work. I know things didn't work out the way they should. But hey, every divorce, when it comes to the Cowboys and their players, it has to be nasty. It doesn't have to be. You know, you expect it from fans sometimes. Fans, yes. But, you know, the media in itself, there's so many other things that's going wrong in that organization. You don't have to do the players like that.

They did Michael like that. They said they were better without them. Then they put up these numbers. They found numbers in a way to justify him not being there, why it was always. okay and why they were in a better position. And now with Trayvon Diggs, they did the same thing. Well, normally reporters don't do no farewell. They might call you.

If they have your number, they might, that might be something privately. I appreciate you. You know, you're talking to me. You was always respectful and professional with me when I was here and you were here. So I really, really appreciate that. I got a lot of that when I left Denver the first time. Even when I left Baltimore, you know, I had a lot of guys reach out. And, you know, we stayed in contact for years.

They would call and ask me certain and things I could help them on. I would be more than happy to help. But normally, publicly, reporters can't wish you the best. That's not where their job. That's not where their job is, oh, Cho. Right. But I think the thing is that people like, well, Michael, this divorce has happened five months ago. Yeah.

I think that's the thing people like, bro, you moved on with your life. You're happy. Yeah. I mean, but he, in sense, in essence, for context, you've got to understand he was taken up for Trayvon and yes that's all and just reminding them five months ago they did him the exact same way as much as he's done for them obviously not being able to you know what the end goal is the end goal is always to win a championship he wasn't able to bring that but they found ways to justify him leaving and some of the things that Jerry said and obviously you know we talked about it in length

when it happened oh he wasn't coming back there's there's no way a owner talks about a player like that publicly and you're still in his team and you think I'm going to represent you in the right way um I agree with you um look like I said last night I'm not here to beat up uh Trayvon yeah he had his moments and I just saw things that were kind of like had me trending you know I just keep my mouth shut because I hear a lot of people saying well we got people they said it damn me dim and me pictures of him in the club or him being somewhere right that ain't got nothing to do with me I'm going to talk about his play on the field uh and that's where I'm going to leave it at so but I just saw the I just saw the way it was trending and I was like

yeah they're going to have they're going to have a they're going to have a breakup here before long and and it happened you know the as Brian Schottonheimer shot he said yeah because we told him he couldn't go and then the report is that he was at a concert I don't know I don't know if he was at a concert but that's it that's inconsequential because when you ask them could you stay they said no right once they said no it doesn't matter whether you're at a concert and i guess like you said maybe maybe he just wanted to leave maybe he wanted out i don't know right but in that situation once if your boss said you ask your boss can i get off tomorrow he says no we really need you to come in oh cho if you take off tomorrow it don't matter what you took off for right they did not

give you the day off so if they move in another direction you can't be mad yeah i don't think think he is mad i don't think he is mad either way i think obviously he wanted out he knew it was coming uh there were issues obviously dating back to training camp and him choosing to to do his not training camp but all season him choosing to do his his um rehabbing elsewhere and not want to be in dallas obviously jerry jones and the cowboy's organization taking 500 000 from him um because of his choice and wanting to rehab away from the facility correct and then obviously him saying he's healthy, him being a healthy scratch, him talking to the media, the media

saying he's healthy, but Jerry saying he's not healthy. I mean, it was so much turmoil going on there, and I think he just wanted to expedite the process of him not being there, so him choosing not to come back on that flight and then stay wherever he was and do what he wanted to do, and he got

what he wanted. Yeah, I think the thing is also, and you heard Abrefleus when he was talking, he says some things trans hard he's like look when you have a guy that can get there suddenly and we trade that guy he's talking like a guy that knows he's not coming back so i'm gonna be truthful we traded michael what the hell do you expect to happen with our secondary you need a guy that can win right now he's the one guy that can win right now yes he's the one guy that if you don't double he will wreck

you deep he'll wreck your offense they don't have anybody like that and so with that With Trayvon, not, well, maybe he was helped, maybe he's healthy now. Maybe he wasn't healthy at the start of the season. I don't know. I don't know. But what I do know is that he was a guy that would take some risk. He's a, he's a feast of famine guy, Ocho. He's going to get you, but you're going to get him.

Yeah. And teams double moved him. That's how you got to get him. You know, there are guys, Ocho, we're starting off. We double move you because we got to back you up. Aggressive. They're aggressive. You're going to jump or something.

So we want you, we're going to use your aggressiveness against you. And Diggs is, he's not in Dallas anymore. And people go like, well, you know, that's what, no, no, that's not the reason why. That's not the reason why. You're not going to, I'm not going to let y'all put all this on Diggs. Has Digg played his best football in the last couple of years? No. but there have been a lot of guys

that hadn't played their best football. Y'all think DeRan Bland played his best football? Y'all paid him. He just got that bag bag. Don't think he played his best? There are a lot of guys that hadn't lived up to expectations. That's a part of it. The Cowboys got some choices to make.

Y'all problem is, your general manager is terrible. And don't nobody know that but him. And he doesn't know, everybody knows it except him. Yeah. But keep them in place. I like y'all give us something to talk about. So guess what? It's 31 years before y'all went to the NFC Championship game.

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Don't miss Stephen Curry's New York Times bestseller, Shot Ready, available now. Ocho, Lamar Jackson said he's planning to play Sunday against the Steelers of the regular season finale. Lamar told the reporter 100% I'm going to be out there. While he missed Saturday's victory over Green Bay with a back contusion, he's been a field participant in practice Wednesday and Thursday.

Lamar added he's planning to wear some protective padding for the back Sunday's game. Lamar also addressed some of the skepticism about his ability to pay through pain. I've never quit on my team before. I've never quitting on anything, to be honest with you. I don't know where the noise came from.

Ocho, is this a defining moment for Lamar's legacy? Oh, defining moment? No, absolutely not. I wouldn't call it a defining moment. Obviously, legacy, it takes time to continue to build they're going to be ups and downs when it comes to creating that said legacy that we're talking about for lamar jackson he has a very long way to go he has a very long way to

go i don't like obviously when it comes to some of the great players especially at the quarterback position yeah you're going to have times like this where they're rumblings where where where you're you have certain people saying certain things but you really don't understand what it is they're saying and why it's coming about about you you think about lamar jackson uncle you don't say much nope he don't say much he don't he don't talk much so it's hard to be able to text some of the things

and say some things that are coming out about him unless you're internally and inside that building which is weird to me which is why I said what I said when a certain beat reporter whether it's a beat reporter for them

or whether it's the beat reporter in Baltimore in general I think Mike Preston is the a beat or columnist because I think Mike Mike Mike Preston was he was a beat I think he was a beat reporter when I was there. He might be a columnist now, but he, okay. Yeah, I think if I'm not, if I'm not

mistaken, I'm not sure they're calling, Colin Cowherd. Have some, have some things he might have said earlier in the, I didn't, I didn't hear. Oh, too, I don't, yeah, listen, I might, I might be wrong. I'm, I'm, the quote me of some things that, that, that only someone internally would know. And I could be wrong about that, but, but again, listen, this, this happens. This happens. I think Lamar is going to be fine. the rumblings you know like I say it all the time you know how this business works

you know how this business works where there's smoke there's fire a little bit always there's always a little bit of truth you know so he's gonna be fine whether it's in Baltimore or whether there's somewhere else because we know you and I both know what another team is getting

yeah what he can bring to the table you know he's gonna bring the table and he's gonna bring some motherfucking legs with him yeah i don't i don't think i don't think he's leaving baltimore not no 29 year old quarterback that's a two-time league MVP you ain't getting rid of that look and see what happens oh cho i don't know if you've ever been nicked and had to leave a game but i've been nicked and left the game right but and then the next week i was able to play there are certain things that happen that you're not ready you're not able to go back in you're not able to finish the game it's okay it's happened

Lamar Jackson is not the first quarterback that's been knocked out of a game and hadn't been able to go back in. It happens. I don't know, look, if you're going to say that he hadn't played up to the Lamar Jackson that we're used to seeing this year, I will concede that.

But for you to question how hurt he is, what has he ever done to lead you or make you want to question whether or not he's hurt? everybody have very levels of pain tolerance yes and people like what you look by the time they shot it up it's going to take 30 minutes to 40 minutes for the medicine to get in there the game's over and he might not be a guy that wants to shoot up everybody ain't like me I'm shooting it up and I'm trying to go next week or whatever that's me right but I don't I don't look at somebody because I did something and think they automatically should do something I don't

I've never been like that. Right. I worry about me. That's all I can worry about. That's really all I'm responsible for was me. Right. So I don't like, and I agree with Lamar, I don't know what he's done

to make you question whether or not he's been hurt. Like, oh, he ain't really hurt with little old back. Well, I've been hitting the back before. It hurt. Hello. Oh, just like Ty Simpson. Oh, Joe, you see I, Ty Simpson when he coughed that ball up, I got hitting the back just.

like that in Kansas City and I coughed that mophore up to right right right up take it but and the funny thing about the people if that that have never played sports or play any anything in anything competitive you'd have to understand if you if you get needed in the back in a certain area and in a soft tissue area and you get a goddamn back contusion until you felt that until you felt that goddamn blood harden up and they're stiffing up in that certain area and you can't move and you can't bend you'll never understand you'll never understand so I mean, listen, I had a contusion right on my thigh. Someone need me on my thigh.

And they got to the point where the contusion was so bad where I couldn't bend my leg. Yeah, that happened. I couldn't bend my leg. That blood settled? Bingo. I mean, so I can understand that back area? Oh, my goodness.

I could just imagine what young bull was going through. Look, my thing is, and I've been abundantly clear, y'all be honest. has Lamar Jackson looked this year like he did last year and the previous years yes or no

be honest no because the numbers are not the same as they were last year that's all I'm saying hold on he were 41 and 5 last year thank you or take the MVP even if you take the seasons

he got hurt a couple I think 2021 he missed four games I missed five games each year so that's 10 games but if you go back and look at the season that he's won the MVP And last year he could have won. Chad, don't do that.

Because I'm saying he doesn't look the same this year as he has in years past. Right. That's not hating. That is factual. Mm-hmm. How many touchdowns have he passed for this year? How many interceptions does he have? So when you look at it, if you just look at it objectively, I get it.

That's your guy. You're supposed to ride for your guy. But deep down it, if you want to say, Shannon, you're hating. But deep down inside, deep down inside, you know, man, Lamar ain't played like he's been, like the Lamar, like Action Jackson, I know. Right, right, right. That's it.

You can be honest. I was honest when I said it about Patrick Mahomes. Who the heck? I called him a homeboy. State Farm didn't want to give me no credit. They called him Mahoney. Ain't nobody ever called that man, Mahoney, or Mahomboer before I said it.

They called him Patrick Mahomes. I said, Last year and this year, Patrick Mahomes doesn't look the same. And y'all look at it because he went to the Super Bowl. But still, you've got to peel the layers away. It's okay. Yeah, the numbers aren't the same. I got no dog.

Look, I want the Ravens to win. Outside of the Broncos, the Ravens is outroof for the Ravens. Obviously. But at the end of the day, I still got to be honest. And when the Broncos don't play well, oh y'all forget that though but i get it you know you know what you more hard on black quarterbacks

i don't know i got into a very heated discussion with my partner on television what quarter what color was that quarterback coachell yeah he would he would he would white i just say so y'all missed that part of what me and miss kipp got into it about brady or when i was on romo y'all missed that part what about cousins baker mayfield did y'all for you getting about how we went for eight, nine straight weeks until the man got traded.

Even when he got to Carolina, I was still on Baker's neck. Where were y'all doing? Yeah. Hey, one thing about, one thing I can say about your, boy, it don't matter who it is. Black, white, black, white, yellow, green, skittles. It don't matter what it is, but you fell.

If you're playing bad, you're gonna say they plan bad. That's all I'm saying. If they're playing good, you're gonna say they plan. I'm gonna say that. I don't try, and people see a lot of times, What people try to do, if I say, Manocho didn't play good. I'm trying to take away your pro bowls.

I'm trying to take away your all pro. No, you did that. That's the going to be on your resume. Right. I'm talking about right now. Yeah, that's all. I'm talking about right now. I stayed on Romo.

When Brady didn't play good, I was on Brady. When Baker didn't play good, I was on Baker. When Peyton Manning didn't play good, I was on Peyton. When he was losing no playoff game. But y'all don't remember that. they might be too young to remember that huh they remember when i was on break they hold on on they too young to remember what just happened two years ago okay on undisputed they remember oh yeah they choose not they just try to well this and no no no bro when mahons didn't play

when mahomes wasn't playing well this year and last year where did he end up two things can be true you can end up at a destination and still not be playing well. Mm-hmm. It happens all the time. But just, no, I'm saying, Lamar doesn't look the same to me. When he came, he wasn't playing well before,

not like the Lamar we used to see it. And then when he got knicked and came back, he wasn't the same. Even his mom said in the play, leading up to the playoffs, he should have run more. But when I said it, I'm hating. His mom told him.

Yeah. Hey, do, baby, do what you do best now. Do what you do best. No goalpost moving. His coordinator said this is the first time if he practiced tomorrow, he will have practiced Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, since week 10. Normally, Ocho, when you're healthy, you practice, right? Yeah, especially the quarterback.

Especially the quarterback. It's all because his is all about timing. It's all about timing. Right. Man, y'all need to, y'all need, y'all, y'all got to, y'all got to stop making everything. So I guess what, I don't know, I need to see, I need to see, or Laskit. No, I can't, he, he's the wrong got to ask because he's going to support every quarterback. But I need somebody, I need, I need some of these white guys to do what we do.

When they criticize the white quarterback, I wonder if the white people come in their chat and come on their DM and say you hate them. Because I want to see I got to see. Because I know that's what we do. Yeah. I guess I just want to see Ocho. I just want to see for a day. God damn it.

What happened? God damn light went out, man. Oh, I just thought you was dark skin. Nah, man, that's not funny, man. Like, ain't nothing going right with this shit today. My camera, hey, you ain't noticed my camera and just clear, not too long ago, huh? You look the same.

No, earlier. You ain't notice it? Yeah, I did notice it, don't you? I'm sorry. Okay, okay, yeah, I got a, I got a new camera. I got a Sony, I got a Sony A7, a new Sony A7. Then I got the new type C, what do you call it, type C? I don't understand all this shit, but I had Dean, Dean, a friend of mine, obviously.

Ash, no Dean. A matter of fact, Ash, thank you, ask, because you, I was, Allowing me to meet Dean, he helped me change my whole goddamn setup. So I'm going to be professional like Unk. Give me about two more weeks. Hey, I'm going to have my own team. It's just going to be two people, though. Yeah, I'm going to have my own team.

I'm excited. That would be awesome. Yeah. Look, this would be huge for Lamar. They've been down. They haven't been in first place in the division. and now all of a sudden to come back and win the division, he missed the game.

And that's what your quarterback's supposed to do. What does the backup supposed to do? Keep your float until the starter comes back. Right. We saw Matt Jones do it and do it for San Francisco. Yes. Keep them afloat until the starter gets back. Boom.

Now you're in position. Okay, Lamar, winner take off. You got a former MVP, you got two former MVP's locked up. Last game of the season. Win a take off. Yeah. It's going to be a good thing. As a matter of fact, all the rumblings and all the noise,

it's going to quiet everybody. It is. Especially with the way the Raven started the season, OFA, with a donut. Yeah. And to come out on the back end, you know, listen, this is not a sprint. It's a marathon. It ain't how you start. It's how you finish.

So if they finish with the win and make the playoffs and win the AFC North, well, guess we're going to get the credit? The same one they've been talking about. Yes. So I honestly, He's going to have to play well because the defense, they don't rush the quarterback.

Right. The last guy that you want to have is somebody as accurate as Aaron Rogers, then you can't get pressure on him. Oh, yeah. That's the problem. But you know what? The good thing is for the Raven defense

is even if you don't rush Aaron Rogers, who the hell is going to get open to catch the ball? Brother Darnell Washington is out. He hurts. Yeah, he's broken. DK is out I mean Calvin Austin

probably is going to be out again so you ain't got nobody but game well Friamuth oh MBS Valdez Scantlin Adam Thielen

Okay So now where's my offensive production gonna come from Where my big play Big play is gonna My chunk plays You mean to tell me

I have to drive the ball All the way down the field 70 yards every time It's gonna be perfect Because who your playmakers back there on the back in. I don't know if you notice, but you see how they be giving up yards, uh,

the, uh, Raven secondary. Oh, yeah. So, hey, whoever, whoever number two on, you get in the ball. Hey, uh, Nate, Nate Williams had a bad game, huh? He had a, yeah, uh, he had a bad season. Two, two, two, two, two games. He's had a bad season.

It was that bad all season, you know, I don't really, I don't really rush the Ravens fans what they think. Hey, Ravens fans, if y'all in the chat, Nate Wiggins it was that bad this year huh what was it was it that bad this year

talk to me talk to me nice too now yeah yeah yeah yeah yes uh

uh marlin ain't ain't been the same yeah somebody said I don't know if he broke his hand because you see him had like oh yeah he got the pattern

on there yeah he had a patent on there Yeah, he cast up. No, some people, yeah, the chat is kind of conflicted. Most of them are saying Marlin. Oh, yeah, Marlon's been bad. The secondary has been bad. What is the Ravens's secondary rank in past coverage?

But a lot of that is contributed to the front. Yeah, not being able to get any pressure. Not being able to get any pressure. Right. They say, yeah, Nate, Nate having a down year, but Marlin is worse. Where's the Ravens secondary? What are in past defense? Because I don't think they got nobody with five sacks.

I think the person leading in sacks, he might have six if I'm not mistaken. Who? The DN. I can't remember his last name. I think he has six. They're 30th in past defense. 30th?

There's only 32 teams. God damn. Okay, now, hey, now that's, that's bad. Guess there are two teams worse than past defense, and they both of them got seeds, Colts, Cowboys. Hey, I'm glad my bangles ain't in that. You see that? You see, we're moving on up.

Y'all 27. I couldn't let you get too happy. You started to celebrate too much. Hey, that don't make it no better. You're like, well, we, we, we, we, we 30th or worst. Oh, show to Miami Dolphins. What's up? It's Cam Jordan. I'm back with season three of your favorite podcast,

The Off the Edge with Cam Jordan podcast. Tap in every Wednesday to hear conversations with my friends and stars for the NFL, the sports world in general, and entertainment. About anything from teams and players making waves to pop culture. And I'll take you inside my journey through my 15th season in the NFL. Looking forward to you joining me this season, the season of more, on The Off The Edge with Cam Joom podcast. Catch new episodes every Wednesday on the IHeart Radio app,

Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Wasabi Hot Cloud Storage. Store more and do more with your data. Try them for free at wasabi.com. If one of us wins, we all win. I'm Ashley Reifeld, and I'm the host of the women's skateboarding podcast. Good luck with that. Good luck with that is a skateboarding podcast that is part cultural record, part news brief,

mostly group therapy, and a place to talk about the past, present, and future of women and gender expansive skateboarding. This week, me and my co-host, Nora Vasencelos, and Alex White, we have Fabiana Delphino on the show, a professional skateboarder from Florida, whose grit was forged in a family of athletes. Tune in to hear how she broke into the boys' club, what it takes to be pro,

and why just being grateful you're here shouldn't be the price of entry. Maybe the industry thinks that we just started skating five years ago because that's when they maybe started paying attention. It's a no-fluff conversation about putting in the years, stacking clips and receipts, and still having to prove your worth while the industry catches up. You break down the door, sick, now,

like hold the door for everyone. We created good luck with that because we want to share our experience of existing in an industry that wasn't always built for everyone. So listen to good luck with that on IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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Miami ownership wanted outside respective perspective from someone who had a strong relationship across the league. Damn. The team that he won three, no, but, but, Joe, what, what do you, you like this? absolutely love it. I absolutely love it because this is the organization that has no ego and has no pride and understands in the direction in which they want to go. Let's go to someone who's been there before. Let's go to someone who's won three Super Bowls and can help guide us in the right direction on who we want to put in a position to make the right calls for our organization going forward. And the most important call is going to be a quarterback. So why not get a Super Bowl

winning quarterback who's been there and done that? And no. knows the ends and outs of what we need to do. Now, we're not asking for a for a permanent position. Just give us, just give us some, some guys, some, some guidance, you know? Give us a, listen, you know, what do you think about this guy? What do you think about that guy? Yeah, yeah, it's like having a, it's having a GPS, huh? You know exactly where to go, right?

You know exactly where to go with the GPS, but the directions, the directions that it provides you with, it allows you to get there much easier. Yep. So that's what Troy Aikman is for the goddamn Miami Dolphus. And I like it. I know a team that you need some expertise about a general manager. I wish he, I wish he, I wish he would have put his ego and pride aside and allowed him to do exactly what, you know, Troy is doing for the,

for the goddamn Dolphers over there for the star. Jerry, Jerry can't put his pride aside. Jerry won all the credit. He can get the credit. He can get it? Mm-mm. He's the owner. That's why.

That's why he can't bring in a strong cup. He thought about hiring Sean Payton. He was never going to hire Sean Payton. Because Sean Payton is going to have control. You're not going to have control. You're going to have control over that 53 and you're going to have some control in the drafting for it. Absolutely.

Right, right, right, right. Ocho, you got to realize he was the coach at New Orleans for upteenth years where he had control. You mean to tell me he can go into a situation where and have no control? Not having me? And just be a figure head, just be a face? Right. that's why he wasn't going to have to hire ben jonson ben jons like no bro i'm not fit to let you just

put players on my team that i don't want or need right right right he's never he was never going to get somebody like that now hopefully shoddy can uh uh change the system you know change the culture think he has a good system but they need defensive help like i said you look at that he's leading the league in passing he got two one thousand yard receivers a thousand yard rushing and they missed the playoffs. Hey, they didn't got no problems on offense. I mean, you look at the Cowboys offense. It's similar to that of the Bengals offense.

They ain't got no problems on the offense. Well, I think most people, when it comes to us offensively, they talk about the officer line and not being able to keep Joe Burrow upright. Right. But they got damn Cowboys and Bengals, but defensively, hey, we need the overhaul. We both need the overhaul.

And I already said, I already said what I wanted. I told Jeffrey Simmons. I told Jeffrey Simmons. Jeffrey Simmons made the Pro Bowl, right, Unk? Yeah. Yeah. So I'm going to see Jeffrey down there in Orlando. I'm going to put a little bug in his deal.

You know, you could do two things. I'm going to tell you like I told Miles Garrett. You know, there are consequences and repercussions. You feel me? You know, so in the offseason? Pro Bow's in San Francisco, Ocho. They moved it? Yeah.

Okay, we're going to be there anyway. So, I mean, listen, I mean, you get... Not the week before. Remember, that's the week before, Ocho. Well, we're going to be there, though, right? Ocho, it's that Saturday before. We don't get there until that Tuesday. Well, it looked like I'm going to make me an early trip then.

Well, you go right ahead. Yeah, and yeah. On the Tuesday. Did we get there? See, I told you he going to be there. I ain't going. Ash just told you we got to be there. No, we got to be in San Francisco.

We ain't got to be there. Oh, I see what you mean. Yeah. No. Hey, chat, for those you, for those. Oh, man, look, I don't want to see. We, the error is, you know, it's different now. I mean, it ain't a game.

It's flag and it's, you know, bullying, you know, dodge ball and it's going to target. It's not, you know, catching the ball, all that. Yeah, I understand, I understand. And plus, Ocho, you know, the thing was, it used to be, Ocho, you wanted to, you wanted the pro bowl to be after the Super Bowl

because you wanted to flex if you won. Yeah, yeah, you remember how everybody used to come over there and everybody, hey, man, congratulations, amen, let me get you a drink. It was a big thing. Right. it ain't that no more it's so end it before

half to think about the half to because a lot of the guys that that was in the Super Bowl they were going to be in the Pro Bowl yeah you're right you're right it is what it is Ocho

yeah you think Jerry would ever do something like this get some outside input hey um you know how Jerry is I've come to learn more about Jerry now that I'm not a player now that I'm on the other side

side of the fence and now I'm able to see exactly how Jerry operates and handles and runs that organization. It would never happen. It would never happen. I never knew Jerry was like this obviously because I was playing the game and I didn't know. So it's hard for me to see from the out from the field from the field looking in. I thought he was one of the greatest owners of all time. Oh, as far as marketing, he is the greatest. Marketing and what is one thing that I was great at what I was playing marketing so I saw him in a completely different light yes so now I'm on the other side of the fence and now I'm looking well god damn I understand why the brand the product it sells itself the star sells itself you've done a great job at putting them in that light

but jerry the other thing that you can do as well that can that can that can take that brand and that that marketing availability to the next level but he doesn't see fit because like you say he wants the credit. I think the thing is, Ocho, is like one of your greatest, the guy that helped you win three Super Bowls. You don't think enough of his

Ockman, his football Ahmed, to tap into that reserve. Another team does. Another team. Well, maybe with him seeing another team do it, maybe he comes to his sentence

and says, you know what? Why don't I use Troy in that same manner as well? I guarantee you Troy would be ten times better than Jerry at it. Ooh. I bet you. Now, look, Jerry ain't watching no tape. Jerry has Will McLeigh, and he's like, okay, these are the guys we got. These are the guys we want, and he breaks it down like that.

Jared's not watching no tape. So Jerry get on there and talk about he knows football. He knows from the jocks to the front of everything. no he doesn't you get jerry in front of the things okay jerry what coverage are they playing jerry what's just formation you don't think jerry could break it down like that on no after all these years absolutely not one thousand percent not he wouldn't know 11 personnel 12 personnel 13 personnel 21 personnel he wouldn't know any of that hey that's that's funny Hey, now,

nine. Two by three by one, none of that. No, absolutely not. Now I'm sitting here trying to picture it too. Jerry Jones being able to break down film the same way.

Like a Troy Aitman? Like a Troy Akema or like a coach? Or like a John Gruden. You know how John Gruden break that thing down? Man, please. Hey, oh,

hey, I'm just trying to picture that. That's funny. It's about Jerry playing college football. Yes, 70 years ago. go. Wait.

Hold on. Jerry played football for real? Yeah, at Arkansas. He was on the national championship team, him and Jimmy. What position? Offensive line. He's so little. They were little back then.

Oh, he wasn't fat and lost weight? No, they were small back in the line. That was like, I think that wasn't Arkansas winning championship, 64? Is that when the Arkansas won the national championship? That might have been 64. Okay, okay. Because I think Jared did the same age of my mom. Hey, I'm confused, huh?

Hold on. He went to college. He played at Arkansas. So he won the lotto or something to come into that kind of money to be able to buy the Al Cowboys? They had some money. They had a little money now. Oh, they was already good.

Yeah. I mean, he made more. They didn't have it that, but he was okay. Okay, okay. Yeah. Oh, that's a nice little backstory. I don't know about the backstory. Okay.

I mean, he was, look, he wasn't. he wasn't thin like he is now well how would you Jay probably weighed 200 pounds 210 right okay but you got to realize

offensive linemen went big like they are now Joe okay I like it I like yeah I show I sure with like the back story

on how you go from actually playing college support or being a lineman and then only John Richardson did that. Huh? Jerry Richardson did that. You stoned the Carolina Panthers?

He played football. Then he played ball too? Yes. George Hallis also. Oh, but you got to realize you can buy a team. I mean, you bought a team for $2,000. But do you know how much $2,000 was back then? Or you spent $25,000 or $50,000.

Do you know how much money that was back then? Right. Damn. You look at, you look at today's turn. It wasn't like that back then. Right. I think the Steelers, I think, uh, Mr. Rooney bought the Steelers for like $3,300 bucks that he wanted, that he wanted, because that he wanted the tracks.

Oh, come on that. Yes. 30, 300 bucks. See how much they purchased the Steelers for. Uh, Jerry Richardson. He started out, played football. He was on the, uh, with, uh, with Raymond, with Raymond, him. I think they won the championship.

Right. Steeleers were purchased in 1933 for $2,500 franchise fee. He saw he wanted the race track. Yeah. Steeler would bought the franchise fee was $2,500 in 1933. He won the money at the racetrack.

See? See how I'm talking about it. But do you know, Ocho, they were just getting out of the Great Depression. Do you know how much $2,500 was? That's a lot of money back then, huh? What? Oh, $2,500.

Are you hearing what you're saying? Yes. Think about with $25,100 a lot of money when you was a kid. Oh, for us, for me? Boy, I would have been, okay. Not, not, no, hey, so you were born, so go back 60, go back 60 more years. You know, it is, it's hard for me to fathom and, and, and, and, graph, grass the concept. Maybe because I've, never mind.

God, damn. You look at it, see, you're looking at what you got now, and you're looking at in today's terms, but you've got to look back then. Right. Okay. Let me, I got to put myself,

I got to put myself back there in the 60s, in the 30s. Okay. Joe Burr and Jamar Chase both came out and spoke today about the Bengals disappointing season and what needs to change to get this team back to the Subo. Burrow said, we don't want to be in the spot where we are right now.

So something's got to change, whether it's player, we're continuing to improve and get better and play championship caliber football or bringing in guys or that will or whatever there may be. Obviously something has to change. Chase, I think some of the things are pretty obvious

what we need to change. At the end of the day, I can't really say or put emphasis on what needs to be changed because it's not my role, but it's pretty obvious. Defense and what some of the issues are need to be changed. I love Chase.

Chase said, they're my role. like me to catch a pass and score touchdown. That's what I'm going to do. But y'all know what it is. Yeah, hey, listen, we know what the elephant in the room is. I mean, Chase and Jamar don't, I mean, chasing Jamar. Joe and Joe Burrow and Jamar Chase don't need to say it. I'm not sure why the media's even asking them questions.

They know what the problem is. We know what the problem is. Those that aren't Bengal fans know what the problem is. We know what issues need to be addressed in the offseason, in the draft. And I'm hoping. I'm hoping that we continue based on some of the things that Joe Burrow is, said he's put everybody on alert he's put everybody on alert and we need to do what's necessary to continue to keep our team in an advantageous position to compete from the barty every single

year continue to put pieces not around me offensive because you've done you you you've done everything you can for us offensively well you can prove offensive line i won't be mad if you improve the offensive line okay you can do that you could maybe maybe add another piece somewhere somewhere guard area maybe i would i would like a nice centerpiece well at the center position which is most of the time is the weak link on on most teams but defensively we know we a we need to attack we need to attack in the all season and in the draft defensively i personally chat i want us to go get jeffrey simmons i'm gonna talk to jeffrey simmons at the pro bowl i bet you do you with a lot of other people yeah i i want to go get jeffrey simmons huh let's let's solidify somebody

up there on that front end on that front end you know and I'm not sure what's going to happen I'm sure Trey Henderson is gone uh-uh yeah oh yeah he's gone okay Trey Henderson is gone I'm not sure we can if we can get another premiere deepest in you know but I know we're going to get Jeffrey Simmons I told Jeffrey we we've had multiple conversations and I don't I don't want it to come to to a rift so I'm I need to I need to make sure that happens. You know, I'm doing my due diligence for the organization as well on the outside. Oh, Joe.

Yeah. I'm going to give you some key figures from 1933. The average home price costs between $3,900 and $5,700. The average income was around $1,300 to $1,700. A new car costs roughly $600 to $800. And gasoline was 10 to $0.18 a gallon. Hey, what would you do for us? to be back in old time for them kind of price.

But I don't want to be back to my brother. That was a great depression. People were jumping out of the way to kill this. Hold on. No, I don't want to be back there. I'm good right here right now. Okay, I'm understanding. I'm just saying with the price point, with the price point.

Oh, Joe, Blacks weren't making money like that. Do you understand if the average blacks weren't, they didn't include us in the average. I understand what you're saying. But, hey, you know, everybody complaining about the goddamn prices today. You know, you were a share crop. do you understand what you was doing you was making pennies hey um if the average income was 12 to 1700 there weren't they probably weren't a thousand black people in the country making that kind of money yeah yeah well you know what I you know

what I'd have been doing back then uh you know what I'd have been doing back then hustling like a lot of other black people would do yeah exactly well I would have been I would have been I would have been the best boot leg of there is you here kid me yeah I would have had I would have had I would have had I would have had the best rum like uh what what's the two brothers from um from sinners oh uh I know you talk about yeah I forgot the twin's name and sinners boy hey I'd admit I was I grew up I grew up in in late 60s early 70s and I know how hard we had it I know what my grandmother how my grandmother said they doing you know five 10 loads of laundry for a quarter of

a day, and please. A quarter. Yes. What do you think black people ate all those scraps? You wouldn't get in steak. You had to eat ox tail. You had to eat neck bone. That's what pig feet, Chitlin's pig tails from. That's where that came from. Yeah. I don't know what people thought they were you getting ribs, beef ribs. Now. Hell now. out with Ocho. You go back there and let me know what it's like. No, no, I don't, listen, I'm, I'm there. I'm talking about the price. I ain't talking about what you had to deal with. I'm just talking about the numbers. That's it. What damn? How you will get? So you think you're going to be able to go back there with the money

you got now and just could transport your life? I ain't say I wanted to go back there. I said living today could you imagine if the prices were as low and affordable as they were back then. That's all no. That's impossible. Yeah, I know that. I know that. I know that. I'm just, I'm just saying. Everybody complain about everything today oh the price of eggs oh milk so goddamn high eggs see how much eggs are i mean yeah of course i'm gonna say that's why i'm just saying in general what if it was a little bit more affordable where people want living goddamn paycheck to paycheck people've been living paycheck to paycheck what you mean they they ain't just started oh yeah i know i don't know i'm just saying uh it'd be a little it'd be a little easier that's why you need the right people in

position the power that made the cause but every time you think you get the right people they get corrupted too because how you think they got the power hey i'm glad i'm glad you know see that's why i stay out of politics because you got to be you got to be crooked you can't never be straight to be in the politics like i said look i remember when i was a kid minimum wage with 3 30 was 337 an hour i was a kid i was a kid 40 years ago 50 years ago god damn Damn. So now, yeah, but now, Ocho, guess what? It's 725. That's it. So you're talking about 50 years ago, it's only game, it's only gone up, you know, it's doubled. What the hell is, what kind of boy job is that? Now, you look at CEOs, COOs, and you look at everybody else's been come.

It's gone up exponentially. Hmm. So, and that's what, that's why people say. living paycheck to paycheck because a lot the people that was here yeah money has gone here people that was here money hadn't gone nowhere hey is it's a dirty game prices home you ain't buying no home now for no $5,900 no I mean pretty soon the average house of a home go down to cost you a million dollars who they're going to be able to afford an American dream oh soon they're going to tell you to stop dreaming

don't dream no more because that is they're coming true you know you know you know Yes. You know what? I'm going to have my sister to send my thing because I remember I got a when I was working, I got a W-2 form from 1977. Damn, you still got it?

Yeah. But you keep every goddamn thing, man. How many nine-year-olds you know got a W-2 form? I was working. I've been working all my life. That's all I'm doing. Well, I got a better,

one for you. How many two-year-olds, you know, had cable and a washing machine and dry in their name? We didn't even have cable. You couldn't get cable in the country back then. Matter of fact, I had bad credit before I could walk. How about that? Shit. Hey, they got you. They got you. Yeah. I'd be the old American dream. Huh? What a, the question is, who's dreaming it? And which America is it? That's a good one. Now, hey, come on. that. It ain't got to be Sunday for you to preach. Man, please. Bad please. My grandmother, my grandfather left my grandma in debt like $2,500. Well, you know, I remember last my sister, my grandma told my sister, this the last payment

ain't a living. She's like, yes, ma'am. Mm-hmm. Man, it took us like, where it took my grandma, like 10 years, 15 years to pay off $2,500. Ooh. You got to realize my grandma wasn't making about $197 every two weeks. Yeah. How'd head you're going to feed me, Spanky, Libby at the time, Maranelle, Gladys lived at the house for probably about a year that she left with Chicago with my mom. Uh, Sherman Dean and Jane.

How do you're going to feed that? $5 here, $10 there. That's why we worked in the summer, or we got little side jobs picking up, peakeas, clipping onions. That's why we chipped in, because we saw how hard it was for granted. To try to, man, run out of gas.

We used to have a big propane thing. They don't have many more, but they used to have, we used to have a big, a 200-gallon propane tank. Yes, sir. You run out of gas, Ocho. Well, granny ain't got no money. You got no, pay.

Me and my brother have to go down there, chop down the tree, cut it up, put it up, put the heater from the fireplace, put it down, boom. you don't know how many times me and my brother them put sweet potatoes in the hot ashes let them cook because we got no gas stove don't work on Joe damn man please

people can't tell me nothing about no hard time I ain't tell you what somebody told me when somebody was talking about I'm talking about the 70s and the 80s I lived it yeah people talk about oh I lived it so when people talk about hard times man please what we got here in rapaport reports that the giants are expected to look at all options if they get their hands on the top pick in april rap report expect them to evaluate all options including looking at fernando mendoza before they make the decision on how they're going to proceed if they have this pick dart said this week he hadn't heard much from the report but made it clear he sees he's the future in new york i'm going to continue to play ball play my ball i know i'm going to be here for a

very long time. I'm excited to start winning more games and turn this place around. Do my job. We have a bright future and I'm standing on the sideline watching Abdul ball, watching DA ball, scat was here today. When you think about this rookie class, we have a really bright future

and we're going to do a really big pivot and turn this thing around. Ocho? Yes, sir. For me, it wouldn't make a whole lot of sense. It wouldn't make any sense. It wouldn't make any sense. It wouldn't make any sense that got damn all. Go ahead, Ocho, what you thinking? It wouldn't make any sense.

sense at all. You've got something special than Jackson Dart. Now, we could, we could pull the reins back on him a little bit, and get him to be a little bit more cautious in the way he plays the go-back position. You know, he's going to be all right. But he brings something that, listen, I like McDonough. I like McDoza.

I like him, mom. But he's not Jackson Dart. He's not going to breathe that kind of excitement and put butts in the seat like Jackson Dart and goddamn scattaboke can do. Nope. He's not. I agree. He definitely, he definitely not. Completely different individual. If you listen to his interview zone, he's not ready for that New York media.

That ain't for him. That ain't for him. Jackson's daughter is perfect for that situation. He's perfect for the atmosphere, that environment, being in New York, that is the perfect place for him. He's going to be all right. We just got to tone some things down in a game and he's going to be all right. Other than that, that's all. but all that looking at all they can they can check all the options and every other area except quarterback oh cho the buffalo bills are asking fans to help shovel snow at high mark stadium before this weekend's game anyone 18 years of older get $20 per hour with food and hot beverage provided oh cho shit I'd have been there wait how much $20 an hour oh

Hey, what time the stadium open? I'm going to get that. Oh, and food? Listen, I don't need no food. Give me a hot dog. Give me a hot dog and some hot cocoa. I got you. 20 hours I'd be there all day.

Oh, Cho, you do realize glizzies are food, right? My bad, that's a snack. They probably play, they say they'll play you in glizzies. That's fine. Oh, no, they, oh, no, I'm going to get my $20 hour. Don't do that. I'm going to get my $20 an hour, and I want to do that. to make sure I spend it I want to spend it I want to be there all day too

because I'm oh you want to go to the game no a young you want to go out there who where and go shovel no okay that'd have been some great content now no it ain't only that shovel the snow mm-mm-mm-twenty dollars a hour oh sure I don't see I don't know if you really done manual labor yes done manual labor for over decade you're good on it you cool on it I did, I was, I did construction work, Unk, in the Austin, in college. I did, landscaping did all that. Yeah.

Poor comfort, concrete, laid asphalt, yep, did root, yeah. Hey, you're like, landscaping, uncle, I was cutting grass at eight years old. That was part of my chores on Saturday. Yes. I had the lawnmower. Well, I'm glad that, I'm glad that let you get to be eight before you started doing it. That's, damn. What we talk about?

My, my, my, my grandma had me out there in her rose bed. I'm the one that had to, I, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, one that had to dig them holes in the garden yes i know by i know by man your labor day i'm out there with the guard gloves on that don't fit three three sides is too big damn you had gloves and everything damn you're a hell worker yeah man hey i still got callus on my hand from laying bricks what we're talking about look at this boy when you using that hammer or that shovel and you ain't got no gloves that first day them hey bad your hands hurt so bad like, Lord, I sure hope I ain't got to go in the morning.

All right, I'll see you boys tomorrow. Damn. Yeah. I show you want to tell Grant I don't want to go back. Son, going to get. Hey, son, gone out there. That's a good piece of job. You mean it's a good piece of job.

Working 12 hours a day for $10, $15? You think that's good? Hey. Where else you're going to make that kind of money? Boy, my grandma, hey, look here, man. You could have worked $15, man, K, you're $5. Well, that's good money. What?

I mean, if you do, I understand, granted. You worked, it was a quarter for all they load that loads of laundry to you and Grandma Lou and Annie Mae had to do. Granted, that was 50 years or 40 years ago. That's 50 years ago. Right. $2 ain't a lot of money, granny. Damn. You could do it.

My girlfriend, I thought any, any denomination of money. Right. It was good money. It was good money. Yes. Yes. Yes.

But. But that's where, you know, it comes from. That's where how I'm wired. I'm a provider. There wasn't a whole lot, but, you know, working in the summer. We worked in the summer. We caught chickens.

Once, once, uh, to the backer was over, we still caught chickens during the season. Come peacock, come pecan, well, pecans was like in the, like in the winter. Pekins, we did that. Then with spring come around, it was time to clip onions. Those by there your onions that y'all be eating or that, yeah, yeah, that's what uncle was in the field. You got 50 cents, you got 50 cents a, a, uh, a hamper. I give, I make me a quick, you know, I make me a quick. Yeah.

$10, $15. And you know what you could do with $15 back then? I know what I could do. But hold on. When I was a kid, you know what you could do with $15 back when I was a kid? Go to the candy lady house. You know how much $15 can carry you at the candy lady house back in the 80s? No $10.

No $5 because $10 got to go to granny. You got to help pay some bills. You have to just get all that money and just keep it for yourself. Huh? Oh, that's what you thought? No, I'm not. Okay. For me, for me, it was true money.

You know, it was true of money. I understand once I wash my clothes, once I cut that grass, once I get out there in that rosebed, once I pick the mangoes that are ripe off the, that are ripe off the tree. Yeah. Once I swore up and got damn leaves, any leaves that was in the yard. Once I wash some cars, come on now.

I know I got, I got me a good $10, $15 coming. Nope. That can't tell me nothing. and I hear that ice cream truck coming. Hey, I'm ready. Bad, please. Being my brother was talking when he was out here, he said, man, he was looking at it.

He was walking around the house. He was in the backyard. He had sent my sister-in-law picture, my niece. He's like, boy, we sitting on the back just talking. Yeah. I said, man. He said, when you sit back here, what you think? I say, thank of how fortunate and how blessed we are.

I remember you used to rain You have to go to the bathroom Be soaking wet, don't you? Mm-hmm Soaking wet Mosquitoes You in the South Mosquitoes are bad

I remember all that And I'm just sitting on Nice, nice And I'm just sitting there just thinking Mm-hmm God, you've been better to me And I even deserve Yes, sir

I don't even know what I did to deserve this favor But I thank you So man I just wish I wish my grump because she was man I remember the first time I took my grandma to my house in Atlanta Ocho uh-huh she was pulling up because she wrote with me turned down the street like woo woo woo he's like boy you live in here I said yes ma'am so I turn in there and pull up the driveway hit the button the garage go up yeah she walked in there

my sister come up she's like live it there too much house i never thought i believe it i never thought i see i see this day she bragged about that everybody all my uncles all my aunts people that she were in the church with you want to see that boy house if she saw this one lord have You know what that remind me of to unk while you're sitting there explaining? Remember the American gangster? Yeah. When Denzel called with mom, which she came up in.

And mom and saw the house? Yes, yes. Remind me of that. Yes. That's exactly how my grandma was. Yeah. She's like, oh, she's like, man, she brags so much.

Ooh. Leave me that boy guy, I show hate to have to clean this. I say, granted, I don't clean it. That's why I pay somebody. Hell to the dog. I don't do nothing. But it was, I mean,

she was just so proud and, man, that's why I'm so appreciative of everything, Ocho. I know how hard I work to get in the position that I mean. And I don't take any back. I've never shot away from hard work.

That's what I know. Yeah. It's just like, what you're going to do. I don't know what I would do. I don't know if I could just sit still and not do nothing. Oh, wait, you like me?

You know, I got 274 jobs, I can't sit, I can't sit still. I can't, I got to be, I got to be doing something. I got to be, I got to be doing something. I do too. Yeah, I, I, I don't know if I could just, I don't know if I could just sit still. I got to do something.

Even if I don't do number one day a week, I got to do something. I got to, I got to feel like I got to get up to do something. Because if I don't feel like I got to get them doing, I'm like, what's my purpose? Right. I mean, you got to have a purpose. I want you to make sure you keep the same energy, too.

When we win a lotto, I don't want to hear nothing about, no, you're taking a vacation and you ain't showing up because you just said you got to be doing something. So I want, when we hit for about maybe six, seven, eight hundred million, make sure you show up on this show every Monday, every Wednesday, Thursday and Sunday. Hey, I'm going to take some T-C-T-O. What's that?

Choice time off. PTO is paid time off I'm taking CTO Choice time off I'm headed I'm leaving on the next plane I don't know when I'll be back again Right

That's all right long as they got Wi-Fi You good Where are you going I'm gonna be connected to something Okay I'm I'm gonna be I'm gonna be I'll be plug in

I promise you that on Joe I promise you that All right, guys, we're going to get you here out of this. It's time for our final segment of the evening. And it's time for Q and A. Oh, boy, that was a good one. That was a good. Uh, Phil to make nasty.

When you guys watch film, what exactly are you looking for? Why watch so much film? I'm not want to be a football coach. I'm sure he could be a life coach with all that. that advice happy 2026 y'all what are we looking for uh well it all depends because they break they break the film down okay you got first and 10 so they'll put all the plays down so we go back four games you'll look at what the defense they play on first and 10 then you'll go back and look at second second second and 10 then you got second and one to five then you got third in

long. So third and one to three, third and three to five, third and long. So you're breaking it down. Okay. Now they're going to say, okay, red zone. I'm looking at what they play. When do they play this coverage? I'm looking at the guy, okay, let's just say I got the Sam backer. I'm looking at, I'm going to watch for like 10, 15 minutes. I'm going to watch his feet. Are they staggered? Can I get a cue if he's blitzing, if he's dropping in coverage, or is he sitting heavy to play to try to stop the run? Make sure he don't get. doesn't get reached. So you look at an area of the field, down and distance. So you're looking at all that, the coverages that they play against the formations. Then we got it formation. Okay, 21 personnel.

They play this coverage. Uh, 11 personnel, which is one tied in, three wide receivers. They play this personnel. Uh, 12 personnel. They play this. So you're looking at coverages of what they play against certain formations of which, what you see. So if we, Let's just say we play in the Bengals. Yeah. We're going to go back. The Bengals played the Ravens. The Bengals played the Steelers.

The Bengals played the Cowboys. The Bingas played the Bears. Okay. When they were in, when they played the Bengals, in 12 personnel, they played this. When they played the Steelers, they played that. When they played this, they played that. So you got to look at all that. I remember, I memorized all the plays, all the plays.

So all 150, 175 plays, I remember. That's why when John, tells the story, we were in the AFC championship game. They called 324, actually it would we flip the formation. It was 325 all pivot. And I was like, that's not in the game playing. It's not in the game. I said it's not in the game playing.

Right. And now you notice, everybody noticed, like when I start getting animated, my voice gets high. It's not the game plan. It's not the game playing. It is now. Now go down there and get open. I was like, bro, you should be like,

get open, I can do a whole bunch of stuff. So, so that's mainly what we're looking for. We're looking at like certain formations. What kind of defense are they going to play to this formation? Where are we are? Are we at first down? We're second down.

We're third down. Where are we? Are we backed up? We're at midfield. We're in the red zone plus territory. And you got to remember, just like that. So they call the play, they call the play. You got to recall.

I'm going to the, I'm going to the, okay, they play this. They play this coverage. This is primary what they played. But they did give a couple of snaps of this. got to just just like that yep you got to recall it right away the funny thing about it is when you think about the game of football and the way you just explained it it's a thinking man game uh yes people people in chat you know i know you're watching you're watching from home but you're not understanding up here upstairs you got to be moving fast you got to be thinking fast

you got to be able to read and react because sometimes the way unk just explained it sometimes they'll throw you a little wrinkle oh yeah exactly what you think is coming based on down the distance and what you see they have throw something else out there and you got to be you got to be able to read and react on the run and be able to adjust based on what they're doing, all within standing timing of the offense and the play that's called. The Steelers got me.

The Steelers was really the team that confused me because I didn't understand. Steelers used to be a heavy cover two team, but when they played us, they played cover six. Now, I'm looking at the backside safety, and he's wide, but I'm looking at the front side safety. He's still on the hash.

You don't get wide. So what they're doing, they're playing quarters to my side. They're playing half the field to the back side. And they kept asking me, said, why am I not getting wide? Why am I not getting wide? I say, because the safety is on the damn hash. He's not splitting. I'm not reading it to cover two.

It's cover six. And so, which means quarter, quarter half. If you notice, like when you hear quarters, mm-hmm, corner have a quarter to field. Yeah. Once have safety, have a quarter to field, he has a quarter to feel, he has a quarter to feel. 25, we just call it 25, they call it quarters now, Ocho. Yeah.

Cover five, which is two, man under, three, two, that's cover five. So cover two, obviously, shell, you know, split safeties, cover one, single high, cover three, you know, you rock and roll the safety. You come down, you have the safety in the hole, but you play a strong safe, uh, strong coverage or weak coverage. It's just like, but you got to be thinking. Not only I got to remember the coverage, okay, this is the play. This is the coverage that I'm expecting to get. But if I don't get that, because in the West Coast system, you got, you got a, uh, uh, adjustment right, basically on everything.

Oh, yeah, always. Am I sitting it up? Am I getting down the hole? Am I keeping up the scene? Am I breaking it out? And I got to just remember that. And I got just like that all the while, this dude. He got, he got hands on me, like, ah, I'm trying to get off him.

John, I got to speed up because I know them guys trying to knock John head off. It's just a lot going on. Right. Lainey Ray, happy New Year guys. Thanks to my Nightcap fan for helping me get through the toughest year. My question is, did y'all make a New Year's resolution? You got New Year's resolution, though, Joe? Yeah, no, I ain't need to make one.

I ain't ever made one. I'm consistent in all that I do why I don't have to make resolutions I'm very consistent I'm very disciplined in certain areas you know but now I don't I don't make resolutions I'm not sure why people do as well

because you got to be real with yourself I am how consistent are you everybody easy everybody making New Year's resolution in January by the time they get by the time they get the goddamn February they didn't fell off they didn't fell off

I got to be a couple I got because of resolution I don't want to say you Yeah, what you got? What you're working with? What you think about? I'll let you know. Okay, okay, okay. If you don't feel comfortable sharing it with the church,

don't worry about it. You know, I might show up with a little one. You never know about it. Whoa, whoa, whoa, wait. You never know about it on. You never know about it on. And you, you mumbled that. I could have swore you say I might show, like with a little one.

Yeah, you never know, Ocho. What kind of, I mean, when you, say little one what you're talking about you know you're talking about like well you need huggies okay okay okay I like there we go hey okay okay okay you sure you hey you do that I'm gonna show you twins mm-hmm yeah I like I like I like where you're going I like where you're going Nick March oh thank you for the words last night I caught the show live very rare 2025 was rough year said tomorrow isn't promise A very close family member took her own life this morning.

I'm with you when you're right, Unk. Nick, I am so sorry to hear that, bro. I am so sorry. I know that leaves a lot of questions for the family, but sometimes the pain is, they're trying to get out of the pain, and that's the only way that they know how. And I am so sorry, bro,

but we're praying for you here at nightcap. Be quiet, yeah, 70-year-old dad. I'll be going to graduation. I'll be, hey, I'll be playing college graduation with Social Security. I want my social security. All that money, I don't put it in there talking about they might run out. Don't run out before it's my time to get mine. Yeah.

Let my kids run out on my kid. Let me get mine. They ain't put that much in yet. They think they slick. But Nick, thoughts and prayers go to you, bro. I am so sorry to hear this about your family man. But I just want you to know I thought some prayers go out to you. you and your family, you have our deepest sympathies and well wishes.

Bryce, listen to me now. After they called targeting on our SS, strong safety, I knew it was over. That's the weakest position. Johnny, what do you say about Gunner's performance? Who got targeted, who got a targeting call? Number 20, right from Georgia, no? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. You didn't think that was targeting?

Yeah, it was. You hit him in the head? Yeah, it was, it was. I mean, you can't, just because you didn't use your helmet, that don't mean you can't hit him in the head of the neck area, even with your shoulder. Yeah, and it's tough. Hey, um, well, defense, defenders in general are handicapped so, crazy at the collegiate level and the NFL level.

Mike Jones, Mikey Jones, are we sure Trinidad Chambers isn't the best quarterback in the draft? No, we're not sure. I mean, everybody's going to go through their proper evaluations. We'll see. I was very impressed. I've been very impressed with this young man all year. Um, you know, obviously we, you know, we talk about a lot about the SEC. We talk about a lot of the big 10. So we get an opportunity to see him and I got an opportunity to see him against Georgia. some of these other teams. And so I've been very impressed with him.

His ability to throw on the run and be able to make NFL throws. That's what impressed me tonight. Look, we know Georgia got guys on that defense that's going to be playing on Sunday. We have the utmost respect for Kirby because we know he gets great talent and he coaches him up well.

The throws that Trinidad Chambers was making tonight, outrunning, I mean, hey, outrunning some of those fast-ass linebackers and D-Lyman to get to the edge and drop d-dive. reverse field, come back, throw on ropes. He's very, very, very impressive. I think, you know, NFL team is going to take another look at him.

It's like, okay, this guy can play for us. O.G. underscore Thanos 26. Do the college football playoff bracket need to be tweaked with teams having first round bias being one in seven since last year? I mean, it's just like, I mean, it happens. So you just want them to start playing right? think the thing is that's the whole reward for being a top seed is that you get an extra week of rest but I guess you know you're looking at it like they owe for

everybody they had a goddamn Indiana one Indiana one yeah I don't know how you can tweak it I think the thing is unless you just have them play right away because you know you hear some coaches saying we want to be oh done by jam first oh they got two more games to be played yeah I mean you got a semifinals than a Yeah. And the, what is the, what is the, uh, what is the, uh, is it next week or the, uh, the night? Oh, that's the night.

That's next week. I don't know why the hell, that's. Wait, the night. Yeah, the eight. So, this week or next week? This week or next week? This week.

Okay. Yeah. And then Oregon, Indiana, on Friday. Wow. Okay. Kenan, Mem, 3685, man, no matter who playing or the level, Unk and Ocho, are the go to for late night, salute y'all, a fan forever.

Kenan, appreciate that, bro. We appreciate your support. We appreciate your eyes. We appreciate your ears, and we definitely appreciate your word or mouth, because it's because of people like yourself that we're able to continue to grow and continue to be prosperous. So thank you very much, man. Colitoscope 1

Keep that same energy you have for Balma and T-T-U which you have for James Madison Until Ocho Milkdud, Beanhead and stop ducking FIFA Gold Ducks Dukes Oh, he's a James Madison fan here

Oh Man, you know y'all ain't had no business being there Hey, just like Alabama They won the game, Ocho Remember that they did win a game? I'm just saying, but still They had no business being there just like Alabama.

Alabama had every reason to be there. The Florida man up for head coach at Bamma, no chance. I don't want to live in Alabama. What's wrong with that? What? Alabama? I grew up in the country. I ain't tried to live in the country no more.

You didn't been in the city long enough. No, I ain't been in the city not long enough. Every time a coaching gig come up, man, there's an opportunity for you. There's no opportunity for me. Are you steady closing the door that guy? not open that. He ain't opened it. He opened it something else for me.

There you go, man. I'm talking about a door. I'm talking about another door. There you go, man. Man, man, y'all don't listen to Ocho. Man. The junior underscore, uh, three, OSU, Georgia, Babel, all gone.

New Day for D1 football. The blue blood's out of it. No Bamma, no Georgia, no Ohio State. Got Ole Miss. Got Indiana. Yeah. College playoffs looking a little different this year. Man, y'all don't be following up with Ocho, man.

Hey, hey, you know what I forgot, you know I, I forgot to see? What? Yeah, I forgot to tell the chat, man. I've got to tell the chat Happy New Year I remember 2025 like it was yesterday Yeah man

That was You I was supposed to be going To a wedding I ain't going to the wedding Huh Who wedding I know you're talking about mine Because I told you I'm getting married

In 2026 I know you're supposed to get married In 2025 I had my white linen I was gonna be walking Barefoot on the beach Yeah yeah Hey but you know

Hey you know Hey, you know how life is? Life is. I know how to you. Life, life. Life and life. Yeah, it do that. You do that.

But this is the good thing about life, you know, is if it don't work out that time, you know, God always put something else on your plate that you can eat off of. Mm-hmm. We know you like to eat. Hey, boy, who are you telling? We know you. That's one thing about Ocho. Ocho always clean his plate. Hey, every time.

You know, I got. I used to get knee pads for Christmas. Mm-hmm. I believe it, too. Man, the way you be eating off plates, I thought you had a Grizzler Addles by now. Beard you way down here. Yeah, hey.

I keep it, I keep it clean for a reason, huh? Mm-hmm. What's the day the first? I got six more days It'll be a month What'd you think, Ocho? Hey, but you clean, um A matter of fact

Hey, you was on the shade room, right? Yeah. Boy, the comments, boy, the women Lord, that salt and pepper, boy. What are the little shade room for? I mean, it was just, I think I told a joke or something. Oh.

I had to say something. Hey, boy. They were like, hey, they were like, Hey, they were like that salt and pepper now. We, yeah, we could do a little something with you now. Yeah, they like that. What if I get rid of beer to just get the go tee? Nah, I think they like the whole thing.

The whole thing? Yeah, they like the chin strap and all. Well, okay. Hmm. Man, my grandma rolling over in a grade. She said, I show don't like no beers. I agree with you up in 2008 with the fastest Usain boat ran. Yeah, that was special.

he wasn't thinking at the time I understand the jubilation because he was so excited he was about to win the gold medal yada yada yada yada but man if he had ran through that tape like he did in Germany yeah I still

I still believe the time that he ran in Beijing would have been faster than the time that he ran in in Germany that's just me but hey miss patrice Oregon wins a big game Ain't no love over here.

Great job, my ducks. No, they look. They play. They can't play like they played today and beat Ole Miss. I mean, you look at it, 47 carries 64 yards. They didn't run the ball extremely well. It's going to be interesting. Ole Miss can put points on the board.

Their defense came to play today. They did a great job of neutralizing Texas Tech offense. But this performance today, won't get it done next week. Absolutely not. Absolutely not. But I'm going to be glued. I'm going to be glued to the television. I can't wait to watch.

Oh, yeah. The Sean underscore show, oh, Cho. What's one stat fans overrate and one stat they ignore that actually predicts winning? Ooh. I mean, turnovers, honestly, that's the greatest predictor. That's the greatest, greatest predict.

Especially once it comes playoff time. Yeah. Because the momentum flips so quick. Very quick. More so, probably more so in the postseason or in football lowchow, because home field. Yep. So you must ride and turn the ball over a couple of times. Are you on the road?

It's a wrap. Man, the momentum flipped so quick. I mean, because think about it, Ole Miss had the momentum, looked like it, and then all of a sudden, George, you're going to P.I, go down, three and out, right back down again. Just that fast. Just that fast.

You don't even need help in general. The momentum in the football games, matter of fact, the momentum to any sport. The momentum is going to shift. The pendulum is going to shift at some point. You don't need to help that momentum by having a turnover or making mistakes. So especially come postseason time,

man, you pay double for that stuff, man. You pay double for it. Buckingale Jr., still don't understand why Georgia blitzed that last play killed my parlay. Because they wanted to make a decision quick. You don't want him to sit right? You don't want to,

I want to make him to make a decision. Because think about it. I understand you blitz, but he still got to make a perfect throw. and the guy got to catch it. The last thing I want to do, I want to make it make a decision right now, Ocho. I can't let that guy run around and have all day

and buy time. No, you can be going to make a decision right now. Shook for Rookie of the Year. Oh, Cho, Happy New Year. If Shook beats the failed cards and ends the season with a five-game winning streak, does he win rookie of the year? I think he had a great chance.

really think it's out of him in McMillan and Carolina. Yeah. And they generally lean, uh, leans towards the, uh, the quarterback. Always.

But he's played well. Now, everybody's talking about him and the numbers that he put up against the Titans. But they kill should do her for the same number. Should do it through for more yards. And everybody's saying, there ain't nobody but the Titans.

Y'all, I forgot y'all said that, right? Yeah, don't forget anything. This is the same team to Titans. Tyler shook through for 330 yards and they won. Yeah. Should do it through for 364. And then all of a sudden his quarterback, his coach,

wanted to run the Wildcat. But yes, he's impressed me. I got no problem. Maybe I was wrong about him. Let's see this thing play out. But he's played well enough. to come in as the incumbent quarterback. Yes.

And see if he can lead this team. I know Kellyn Moore has the utmost faith in him. Keller Moore has dialed up some great plays, and he's run the offense. Great. Go get you a running back and get you some offensive line here. That concludes this episode of Nightcap. We want to thank each and every one of you for joining us.

We really, really appreciate that. Very, very, very interesting game. University of Georgia falls to the old. Miss Rebels by the score of 39 to 34. Y'all know who I am. I'm your favorite. That's my partner and co-host, Liberty City's own. Bingle, Ring of Fame, Honor, a former pro bowler, and an all-pro.

He's Chad, Ocho Cinco Johnson, and we want to thank our college football guy. Joining us tonight, Johnny Mansell, make sure you subscribe to his podcast, Glory Days, and find him on YouTube. Please make sure you hit that subscribe button. Please make sure you hit that like button and go subscribe to the Nightcap podcast. feed wherever you get your podcasts from we'd like to thank each and every one of you for your support and your continued support we really really appreciate that in 2026 and 25 24 and 23 all of this is because of you all the awards all the fanfare all the adulation to talk about

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As we mentioned before, the Ole Miss Rebels moves on to the semifinals thanks to a 39, 24 victory over the University of Georgia. Alabama was routed by Indiana in the Rose Bowl, 38 to 3. Heisman Trophy went through three touchdowns, Fernando Mendoza.

Indiana takes on Oregon in the Fiesta Bowl as they swarm Texas Tech by the score of 23 to nothing. So you get Ole Miss and the University of Miami and the Worcester Bowl and you get Oregon and Indiana in the Peach Bowl with the winner. Where's the championship game here?

It's going to be here. In Atlanta again? Oh, Miami. Okay, so that's it. Thank you guys for joining us. I'm Unc. He's Ocho. We'll see you tomorrow.

Oh, tomorrow, Friday, we're off. No, we'll see you Saturday. Sorry. Saturday. Sorry. I thought today was, I'm all up. I'm sorry. You're going to break from Ojo and I.

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