Club Shay Shay - Nightcap Hour 2: Michael Penix Jr. wants to be CODDLED in the NFL + NFL ducks GRADES for team FACILITIES + Shilo Sanders is a CHEAP TIPPER?

Episode Date: November 14, 2025

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to Michael Penix Jr. going viral for an answer he said in his most recent press conference, NFL owners file a grievance against the NFLPA to stop annual report cards, and Paul DePodesta takes a shot at Kevin Stefanski in his first press conference and much more! 0:00 - Michael Penix Jr going viral for press conference answer13:53 - NFL owners file a grievance against NFLPA on owner report cards25:36- Paul DePodesta took a shot at Kevin Stefanski in Press Conference30:28 - Justin Jefferson wants to get back to savage mode mentally36:10 - NFL moving to ban prop bets38:10 - Shilo Sanders goes viral for only giving 50 dollar tip54:55 - Q & Ayyyyyyy (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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So I know whenever I get home, it doesn't matter how I played. She's always going to be there for me. She's going to have a smile on her face and give me a hug and make me feel good no matter what. But as far as, you know, as far as, like, physically the on-the-field stuff, It's not nobody that I'll talk to, like, as far as another quarterback or anything like that. You know, I do have people reach out to me. I do have quarterback coaches, though, back at home that reach out to me as well, you know,

tell me, hey, like, you need to clean this up, clean that up, you know, and everything will be good. So those guys help me as far as that, too, so I can shout out them. You know, you know what? I would love to hear the question that was asked. I would love to hear the question that was asked for better context. because I'm sure he has quarterback coaches on the sideline. He has, he has, he has, yeah, young. He has quarterback coaches on the sideline,

and I'm sure they're talking about the totality of after a game on what it look like. I think that that has to be the context of the question, because bringing up your fiance, and no matter how I played when I come on, that ain't it. You know, she's there for me. No, am I, am I wrong?

Am I wrong? If I'm wrong, let me know. What do you say, What are you saying about his fiance? Oh, how she said, no matter how I played that she's always there for me when I come home, always smiling. But if anything, what did your first thing your fiance is supposed to say? Oh, no, oh no, honey. You ain't for an embarrassed me like that.

It's supposed to be tough. No, York, you're laughing. It's supposed to be tough love. If you play bad, she's supposed to be the first one. Baby, come on, come on, come on, MP. Come on, don't do that. you know you can play better than that. You know, you have your aunt.

No, don't, don't have one of them wives. They know how to break down that understand the game. It can break it down for you. Oh, my goodness. Now you come home to something like that. Not that, oh, baby, you play bad. It's okay. No, honey, it's not okay.

You can't embarrass the family like that. You can't do that. You can't embarrass the Pinnick's last name like that. Now, I'm just throwing out hypotheticals. You know, not you coming home and the wife, no matter how you play, oh, it's okay. no it's you know tough love is okay sometimes and the best person to hear tough love from is the one closest to you yes uh i'm so so they ask him what coaches that he does he rely on

lean on okay okay okay yeah like who like okay oh cho you going through a tough time is there somebody that you lean on okay boom i like that i like that question because the first thing the coaches I would lean on most of the time it wouldn't be my coaches in Cincinnati if things aren't going right and there's someone I need to lean on now in game Hugh Jackson in game you know Alex Wood you know some of those coaches that they but if something is going right and I need I need to go back to the foundation on how it was built Charles Collins 1997 when all started at Santa Monica College running the sand dune the Manhattan sand dunes back in the day like that's what that's what I'm leaning on um

That's what I'm going to. That's why when Michael Pinnock said, he mentioned coaches that, okay, with that question, that's what I'm leaning on. I'm going back where it all started. Hey, Coach C, man, what you see? I don't know what's going on. You know, I'm doing it. Am I rushing?

I'm just whatever it may be because he can see it from a different point of view than I can. He can see it from a different point of view than my coaches do. Because my coaches, they see X and those. Coach C can see something they don't see, even though they're my receiver coaches. And guess what? coach C looking out for you that receiver coach you got five other guys six other guys that he got a coach

yeah yeah and the conversation would be absolutely they view it they viewing me in a different lens than what he's seeing that is correct so I think people

like no that's not what NFL coaches are there you're not going to be able to rely on your coaches so I know y'all was surprised that he said that well he can't go nope no Rahit Rahim

Rahim got 50 guys, 60 guys, he got to worry about. That quarterback got, that quarterback coach got every, ain't nobody holding your hand in the NFL. They're not. So I'm sorry, I don't want to, I don't want to come off as callous. I don't want to come off as not being empathetic, but I'm just telling you the sports business. This is a grown man's business.

You get paid of King's Ransom to play a kid's game. They're not holding your hand. So I understand what he's saying to that when somebody to lean on. I'm calling my former coach. I'm going to call my brother. Mm-hmm. What do you see? Am I, am I missing something?

I feel I'm leaving plays out there, but I don't know what I'm doing. Mm-hmm. Hey, send me a copy. Let me, let me look at your practice. Let me see what you, let me see what you look like in the game. Send me the game cut up.

Send me practice. Let me see. Okay. So, this is, this is the cold harsh world. This has always been like this. And I think the thing is that this new generation, they think like it's high school and like, come on, son, and the coach take you out to eat and put his arm around you.

Oh, no, ain't none of that. Ain't none of that. Because listen, that right there, that'll get you, you'll lose your job. You'll lose your job. Players get coaches fires. If you're not playing up the par, depending on who you are depending on what round you went in

you know depending on how much you're making they ain't no coddling huh ain't no coddling in the NFL Boy this is this is this is business these are exes and nose

we going over exit of nose Wednesday 30 Friday and Sunday we expect you to execute those exes and those exes and those somebody said somebody said he was your first round pick you don't want him to succeed

how many first round picks you think Atlanta got on their roster so I guess they're supposed to take them all out for brunch and breakfast, huh? It don't work like that. Why? This is a different generation, Ocho, because this house always been.

Because here's the thing. This is why in the military there's supposed to be no frattingizer or higher up and subordinates because they're going to be sometimes that you're going to have to be like what David did and he put Batsheba husband in the front. But that was for a whole different reason

because it clouds your judgment. So you got to be careful when you coddle a certain player because it's going to make it much more difficult to get off their player if and when you need to. That's why Coach Belichick Heisman posed everybody. It was nothing for him to get off a player. You know, coaches tell you that long of the time

all the most difficult thing it is to do is cut a player or not. You built up so much callous. You're numb to it. Like about if you're a coach for 15 years, Ocho. And you've got to cut 20 players a year for 15 years. they're numb to it now they pretend they they pretend about it the conversations they have for you when they ask you when they get that knock on your dough bring your playbook coach want to see you man they got everything they're crap they probably say they probably

say the same thing everybody else the only thing they do they do different is they change the first name when they greet you and let you know yes this is a tough decision you know you got to do this the worst part of my job no it ain't you you were really easy uh but you know I'm saying, I'm just being real. You know, this is the tough part of my job that nobody likes to do. They sit in their chair like this. Hey, come on in.

How you doing, son? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, you know, you just got caught up in the, Ocho, you know, they sit back. You just got caught up in the numbers game. It's just one of those things. The idea, that numbers game.

There's a possibility that we might now with a situation. Bring you back. We might bring you back for the practice squad, but we're going to give you an opportunity to go out there and see what side there and, you know. Yeah.

I'm just telling you how it is. I'm just being all the way honest with you. And because a lot of times, you know, everybody has those aspirations. You don't go to the NFL and say, well, if I get cut, it's okay. No, it hurts because for a lot of these guys, this, the end of something that they've been doing since there were seven, eight, nine, 10, 11 years old. Oh, yeah. So the end is never easy. Oh, you're a good movie.

You, man, you don't want a good movie to go out. He's like, damn, that's it? Yeah. Mm-hmm. Damn. Yeah. It's tough. And having gone through that, that's something that you didn't have to worry about being a second-round pick, that I had to worry about being a seventh-round pick.

And I remember, I remember like yesterday, because we were standing at the Clarion Hotel. out by Centennial Airport. That's where all the private planes come in at Centennial. And we're standing to declare it. And I'll never, ever forget, the phone rang. So you know, oh, Chow, we got two rooms, one phone to, me, I ain't answer it.

Like, they don't know, like, they can't come over there and knock on the door and say, hey, hey, Coach Reed wants to see you. Right. And I remember the phone rang. The phone rang about three or four times. I'm like, they know we in. Here, Ocho, I'm like, where are we going?

Hey, you ain't, you ain't pick it up? No, no. Nah, you got to come, you got to come and pick up the phone. No, how would you give me, give me bad news face to face? Right. My roommate picked it up. After a while I see my door open. They got your boy, man.

I say, damn. Man, I'm sorry to hear that, bro. Yeah. Like, man, hey, but you keep going. I said, man, you name. As a matter of, we still, I hadn't talked to him. I mean, I talked to him from time to time. Right.

He came to see me playing Denver. He came to see, he came back to see me play in Denver. He came to see me playing Baltimore. He came to the hall. We were, hey, we, we still cool. B, Matt, he'll tell you, he called me, he's still the only one that really called me double S. But it was tough because, you know, I was talking about, man, what I wanted to do.

and X, Y, Z. But you know what, at that time, I had a Mercedes. My brother said, nah. Yeah. Leave the car home.

Don't know, hey, don't tell nobody you got it. Don't tell nobody nothing. You're going up there, you're trying to make a team. You ain't got no car. Right.

Okay. But it's, it's real. Ain't nobody, ain't no baby? Man, remember I told you I had that thigh bruise. I had a hole in my thigh in my quad.

That don't care. about that they try to find the best 53 down players they can possibly find to make this team and the and the more you can do the better your chances are the better oh you're not a star you're not to start a level start defense or how many special teams can you play put me on point yeah you got to get kick return i can play four to five all of all of it well four to six i can't play on p a t and i can't play p a t block a field goal block but i can get you four of you ever tackled anybody yeah I'll play I tackled I hadn't tackled anybody since high school well interception but I played defense at high school son you got to be

tough to play you got to play be tough bro I'm trying to make a squad tell me what you need me to do tell me what my job tell me what my responsibility is once you tell me my responsibility oh I'm gonna carry that out my brother my brother's tell me all the time he say he say bro you do everything that you do better than anybody else do what they do and you'll be fine. So that was my singular focus, Ocho. I'm going to do what I do better than anybody else

do what they do. That's all that comes down to. That's all they come down to. But I lost, Ocho, I had lost contact with him for like, man, for like eight years. And then all of a sudden, And he called the Broncos, they said some guy to name Brian, Brian McFadder, he tried to get in touch with you. I said, oh, I'll be Mac, yeah.

I called him, I said, ma'am, what the hell are you being? You know, he went back and finished up school. And, you know, we stayed in contact and we lost contact again. He hit me up. I think he called the Ravens. It's like a Brian McFarter. I said, yeah. So I hit him up, brought him out to B-more.

And, you know, then when I went to the hall, I say, hey, Jim Socomano, who's, he's like, anybody that you need me to find. So him, he found him and found a couple of guys that I was trying to get in touch with. For the most part, the guys that came out, you know, I still knew where they were. I tried to get a touch with Albu Lewis,

but I couldn't find him because he was the guy that made me who I am. But guys, this is different. This is the NFL. This ain't high school where the coach you're going to take your ass in or this is college where they get That ain't what they do at this level

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of existing in an industry that wasn't always built for everyone. So listen to good luck with that on IHeart Radio app Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast. NFL owners have filed a grievance, Ocho, against NFLPA to stop the annual report cards. Jets owner Woody Johnson called them totally bogus and was

the one behind it per ESPN. Johnson received an F grade from his players last year. He's received an F grade every year. He has never got anything but F. Failure. I have a point. Hey, when it comes to those grades,

who is the person doing it do they do they talk to the players they talk to the players okay what is the training facility like okay what's your training staff like okay what's the x y and z like yeah you know what i'm saying uh with the um the lounge area in the stadium right you have to is there an area that is there somebody there to watch the kids do you have a daycare things like they you know what's what's the meal services like stuff like that don't you yeah but that's a good thing they need to keep that going they need to keep that going so everyone is aware so players are aware the NFLPA is self-aware on how these owners are conducted themselves in making sure that the environment and all

the amenities for players are up to par yeah I mean ain't ain't nothing wrong with that and there is Woody complaining because he didn't got an F every guy for sure you improve it yeah not only matter of fact it maybe if you prove maybe if you prove the amenities and environment around maybe your team will play better maybe that Um, you never know. And you got to start somewhere everything. Listen, when it comes to winning two unk in life, it started the very top. Yes, for sure.

It started the very top. And for some reason, it just trickled down after that. If you're losing up top, everybody going to lose right below you two. Yeah, for sure. Um, we had to look, obviously it's done gotten better now, Ocho, because, you know, in the beginning, there was no free agency. Owners with cheap, they spent X amount of dollars. We used to have something what they called playing. plan B one is it was oh yeah yeah i didn't use a few of them too that i didn't use the few of them

but this plan B was what oh you're talking about oh my bad my bad i'm sure you have you so but oh plan B yeah you know a little something let's say this plan B was like free agency before free agency where what you could do is protect a certain number of players and the players that you couldn't protect they were for somebody else could sign those players off your roster so that's what it was before we got the Reggie White settlement which granted free agency for everybody. Right. And so but I couldn't have gave Mr. Bowling anything but

because when I got to Denver, that was the first year that they had moved down to the Paul D. Bowling Center down at Englewood. So it was state, it was brand, it was brand spanking new. The grass fields were exemplary. The bubble was horse crap, but other than that, and

what do you expect? Somebody, I mean, you expect to get like mashed potatoes. Oh, Cho, you got to get something, you got to eat something light because you got to go practice in an hour. How are you going to eat steak or potatoes and turkey and, come on. Right.

Cold cuts. And like I said, we lost, they cut that out. I like a good. Joe, he's eating high on the hog. Eating good, but you play in terrible. Nah, but, uh, and now they're getting ready to build a new stadium in Denver, they just

they probably don't spend since the Rob done took over and the pinners Ocho, they probably them spent maybe a hundred million upgrading the facilities. I'm talking about everything. I'm talking about hyperbaric chambers.

I'm talking about red light saunas. I'm talking about trios. I'm talking about, you name it. I'm talking about weight. The fact that you said that for some reason and I probably all 32 teams are like that too especially now that's been so long no everybody liked that oh show no hell no hey unk man I went I went aside the bangal facility on that oh no air day to that's ish no

hey um listen they don't put some money in that thing on everything you just named the the the red that's the sauna the dog it's unbelievable I'm like well when the hell they did all this they they didn't knock they didn't knock everything down and built some all the way though it's the hyperbaric chambers what's the red thing what's the red thing you just said?

Yeah, red light therapy saw them yes got all that man they got a bunch of them lined I'm like what the hell of all this? They got full kitchens same weight room all that I'm like if y'all have had all this

and cooking and all these All this way, and then I don't look like an anatomy chart. Shredded like a Trump tax return. And they got the juice bar. Yeah. The juice bar when they come out, what,

what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, they'll have them ready for you. If you tell them, Ocho, we come out to field, they'll have your shape with your name on it. You just grab your shake and go. Yeah. That's, that's crazy.

That's crazy. They cooking breakfast, lunch and dinner. Dinner and dinner, yeah. Yeah, they got them, they got them, they got them right, they got the boys right now. Ocho, ain't no, Lord, have mercy. Mama, mama. I like my situation, Mama, you know, Lord, I ain't,

but I'm just saying. I just need to be 10, I need to be about 15 years. Hold up, 15 years for, damn, I still have been retired. Hey, I say 15 years, don't you, I'll still be retired. Hell, I'm 42, I'll still be a real retired. Damn. Yeah.

I think about it. I didn't, Bob, you didn't. Hey, nah, mama said, mama had me at 25. My mom had a lair kid in like almost 26. Mama said, I'm done. I'm done, done. Had a first with an 18, last with it. Yeah.

Don't have the first one at 17. So Even with all the nutritionists And all the amenities And resources And all this stuff they got going on I probably wouldn't have done none I would have done none of it

I would Boy you know how much money you could have saved Wait No I'm no I'm saying Oh you're talking like the food You would oh I'm doing all that They got massage therapy They got PTs

Yeah Hey I ain't even do that I can tell you how many I played 11, 12 years, I probably got a massage twice. I probably got a massage twice. I mean, I don't know what it was about me. I took care of my body

because when it's time to work, boy, I'm going crazy. But all that physical therapy and getting stressed and them pushing on you, nah, hell, no. Hey, we used to have on Mondays, you got a 30 minute rub, you got a 30 minute massage for free.

We started losing. They took that out of it, huh? I didn't see them no more. I ain't see them more, Ocho. But I got, I got a massage twice a, twice a, twice a week for, yeah, I don't know, probably till 20, 22. Hey, hey, when T.J was there, T.J. always going to get a massage, always taking care of his body, doing all this stuff. Hey, hey, Ocho, why don't you come get, say, man, T, you know I'm not doing that. Man, I'm going home, man.

I'm going home. After practice, we go watch film, we go watch practice. Man, I'm out of hell. They're going to, you know, stretch and do all this extra stuff. Man, I'm gone. Tio, Tio was there. Man, this man, Tio was ridiculous. He was a madman when it came to taking care of his body.

I'm saying, man, why is you on that goddamn phone thing? The little phone roll. Yeah, man, what you're doing? I'm like T. Man, that junk don't do nothing, man. Man, he, we ain't even out to practice yet. He in the locker room rolling. Man, I'm sitting there, earphones on, ready to go, ready to practice.

I'm out there. We in the stretch line, I ain't even stretching. I'm talking the whole time. I'm so, so stretching, but that's the time to talk. Man, who did what? Yeah. That's the gossip time, Ocho. Ocho, former Dolphins long snapper tweeted,

the report cards have been a catalyst for incredible change within some organizations, the ability to be open to feedback and make changes for the best. better is something that I have a ton of respect for. First-hand example during my time in Miami, one of the first three report cards revealed an opportunity for growth when it came to family care on game day. The next year was game day care of players families on game day.

Staff members dedicated to making sure a player's family were well cared for and access to an air-conditioned space where family with young kids can get a reprieve from the heat. Bottom line if you don't like the score, there's a choice you can make. see you know if you don't want your lodge right there you don't want that but you don't want that you don't want that but you don't want that report card on choke yeah yeah you're right you right but you got you got you think you got to think about how the owners look at it too now you got to that's them listen this facility this facility in these amenities and these resources but we paying you 20 30 10 15 million dollars whatever it may be now now you want

You want us to take care of your family too? You want us to make sure all them good? I'm just telling you how they thinking. Now we got to fuck over more money outside of what we're already paying you to make sure everybody, no, uh-uh, uh-uh, uh-uh. Uh-uh. See?

I'm just, I'm just saying how they probably think. No, but that's the thing. You, also, if when restaurants, do they get grades? Oh, absolutely. Why would they give them a grade, Ocho? Oh, listen, they'll let people know do you need to... That's why they give these owners and organizations a grade to let them know what they need to change and do better.

Oh, yeah, yeah, absolutely. But the funny thing about this is these owners, you know, whether these ingraids or A's or Fs, when it's time for that contract and if they pan you, you know, you're going. You're going. Now, it's a bad look for them because they don't want that stain. No, exactly. That stain on their franchise.

so they might want to clean it up. So the grades are a good thing to force owners to clean up some things that it would probably ignore in other cases. Some things that, you know, hey, maybe like the snapper said, you know, child care for, you know,

on game day, an area that, you know, in Miami, it gets hot. I'm sure you don't want no four, five, six year old sitting out there in that beaming hot sun in South Florida and July, August, September. Yeah, absolutely. And in Denver, you don't want no kid in that cold. You don't want to go to the game and then all of a sudden take your kid in the area.

And the first thing I want us say, will we pay you enough money, leave your kid at home with a nanny. Whether it's hot or whether it's cold. No, but some teams provide that, Ocho. Oh, yeah, they do. They do. I know what you're talking about. Yeah, I know what you're talking about. In the heat of battle, your squad relies on you.

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The media was pretty sure Paul Podesta just took a shot at Kevin Stefanski in his first press conference with the Rockins. The reporter asked the question. You received a lot of blame for the Deshaun Watson trade that was objectively a failure. How can you be assured that you won't do something like that again here in Colorado? DePadesta said, you know I was also calling the plays for the Browns. Then he went on to say those are organizational decisions. Those are done collaboratively with a lot of people on board. He ain't lying.

Guess who had to sign off on that? That owner. Mr. Haslam. Jimmy Haslam. Jimmy and Dee. Because everything that goes out is Dee and Jimmy Haslam. So, Dee and Jimmy signed off on it. Okay, yeah, we get an opportunity.

Look, we get an opportunity to get what we. we think as a franchise quarterback. That's what we got. That's what we think that's an opportunity. No quarterback, no franchise quarterback had ever become available at 26 years of age would not. Peyton Manning came available because what? The doctor only gave him a 10, 15% chance to ever be to be able to, he ends up

winning an MVP, winning a Super Bowl. Drew Brees became available because what? His shoulder was almost tore off the bone. Tom Brady became available. Tom Brady was 40 years old, 40, 41 years of age. So no quarterback, no franchise quarterback had ever become available with no injury history at 26 years of age.

Now, obviously there are some things that came out, but they knew that. They said, okay, but we still believe this is the guy. We finally, after all these years, basically since Otto Graham, I mean, look, Bernie was good for a period of time and even Test DeVurdy had some good years. But basically we got to go back to Autogram

to have a consistency at that position and we got him and he's 26 years of age. It didn't work. Oh, Joe, it didn't work. Whatever reason was, maybe it was that. Maybe it was a situation he got hurt. Yo, Joe, you remember he missed the first of all, he didn't play that last year in Houston

and he missed the first 11 game. So basically he went two years. Yes. Without playing. Right. then he gets hurt then he turns his shoulder

then he tears his Achilles so I don't begrudge them for trying to get a franchise quarterback and they believe they had one was available and they believe they had it yes it didn't work but everybody wants to put

just like that Nico everybody wants to put that on Nico Deco no Dumont he could have said no yeah but guess what he did he nodded yes and he meant no

I mean the funny thing about it is I steal for the life of me I can't understand what Nico Collin can go and tell Dumont that would agree him to say he really didn't want to first of all he really didn't want to play

because he see where these salaries are going so you give Luca so guess what you give Luca 345 guess what his next contract gives Ocho what buy some he's going to be the first he's going to be the first player

to make $80 million a year with the next contract which will be around in 28 he'll be able to sign a five year extension now think about it now in 28 he'll only be 28 29 years of age that's yes

that's crazy so they they are like really they really like like 345 okay that's one player how do we build a team well we got Anthony Davis we got another we got him on the hook for three years that like 150 we got Kyle Reebok on the books yeah it's not it's not the same though I know but I'm saying he's looking at it like

I've got to pay oh yeah yeah yeah from yeah that's how he's looking at it because at the end of the ohcho at the end of the day it's still about making it's still about look at the as a business i'm trying to i'm trying it ain't how much it's how much you keep right so they're like oh i understand it takes money to make money but i want to spend as little money as i possibly can while making as much as i possibly can mm-hmm yeah he did take a shot oh cho justin jeffin says he wants to get back to savage and effort mode from 2023 let's take a listen to what Jetta had to say. I only can control the things that I can control.

And personally, mentally, just wanting to get back into that mode, and I like to say, savage mode. So, I mean, it's just going out there with that effort mentality and just going out there and just killing it and not worrying about the plays, not worrying about anything else that I, just like you said, can't control, just doing everything that I can't control and making the most of my opportunities.

Why do you think you haven't been in that mode if you haven't? Life, you know, just different things going on in my life. And just wanting to get back to that kid phase of loving, I still love football, but overly loving football and overly loving just being out there on Sundays and making the big plays and just being a part of this great organization. So I just wanted to get back mentally into that mode. long story short my quarterback suck here y'all see it but i'm gonna be polite i'm gonna make i'm gonna put it on me and not throw them guys under the bus but my quarterback right suck rhinoceros bone yeah i mean i i like

i like the i like the angle he'd taken two with it you know everything something so you like truth yeah hey hey yes yes hold on hold on i'm i'm with you when i'm with you me right but i don't like some of some of the comments just have been saying lately everything he's been saying has been real real he's correct i don't like that i need i need that dog i need that dog justin jeffson i need that i need that justin jefferson you know that had the grill in his mouth you know that when he scow he hit that he hit that thing you know you know i need that justin jefferson he he's he's he's to me in a little bit because now he's a leader because now he's uh i'm assuming he's probably a captain as well some of that that edge that made him him special top two in the league is going a little bit

I don't care if the I don't care if the goddamn pope was the quarterback when it come to a player like Justin Jefferson when 18 is out there man ain't nothing stopping that nothing and I think a little bit of that has gotten away from him worried about everything else around him that he can't control you wanted a few players regardless of what's around you you gonna get the job done which is why you're paid a hefty goddamn ransom because you one of the few that can do that so I wanted to I wanted to get back to that I don't know how to do the move I'm too old for that but yeah I think the thing you're so choke is that he didn't realize how much he's gonna miss first

cousin he said what they oh yeah Sam Donald ain't that bad hey I got Sam D Yeah Now y'all want me to put up the same type of numbers And y'all keep Mm-hmm Now come on now You want me to make You want me to make

Kobe A5 Dang what you giving me now Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on This is the thing now This is the thing Now Sam Donald

Matthew Stafford but it comes down to the play cards to me I don't care who's throwing the ball J.J. McCarthy Carson Wins put just, you can't cover him. You can't cover him.

Because you can move players around if you want to get him the ball. We've seen Sean McVeigh's offense do it. We saw Mike McDonald do it now with J.S.N. over there in God damn Seattle. Yeah. But look with that. Let me ask you a question. You think J.S.N. doing that with Sam,

let me ask you a question, honestly. You think he's doing that with Carson Winston, J.J. McCarthy? Different type of offense. That's really the West Coast offense. It's really the same offense. I mean, if you think about Ocho at the same, those numbers that he's putting up, you've got to have somebody really good pulling the train.

Yeah And Wentz played okay But And Jetta had But He's going through this thing And until you get a quarterback

That's consistent Right Oh Joe you know how this thing is man Yeah You don't You ain't got to tell me twice You probably have how many Quarterbacks you have it

You had Fitz You had Carson Did you have anybody else in Cincinnati? Scott Scott Mitchell, John Kittner, Gus Farrat, and, yeah, that was it. But listen, I acted a fool with every last one of them. Every last acted a fool.

Who did you go to the Pro Bowl with, Carson? Carson, Kittner. We had Scott Mitchell, did I say Scott Mitchell yet? You said Scott Mitchell, Gus Farrant. Yeah, yeah, there was some day, but, I mean, there's certain players, you know, them tier one receivers, boy, I don't care, man, I don't matter who at quarterback, boy, I'm going to be open, boy, period. Call my number, I'm going to be that for you. Oh, Joe, check this out.

In the wake of the highly publicized sports gambling scandal that have impacted NBA, MLB, and NFL is working on implementing new policies in order to curb such risk end its own game. The league sent out memos today indicating that it had begun actively engaging with state lawmakers and NFL sports betting partners to limit or potential outright ban prop bet. Come on, man. Ocho, you think this is a smart move?

I mean... Ocho, I want to bet if I want to bet Chase is going to have 95 yards, let me do that. If you're going to have 10 catch it, let me do that. that you take it so now i just got to bet win lose over under yeah no hell no it's uh listen it's unfortunate it's not going to change now they they've they've already implemented they're going to enforce it and that's just what it is now we just have to it is it is it making the game safer for those that are playing for those that are actually you know that they're actually gambling

maybe it might work it might not i think those that love to gamble and and and have an urge and and our enthusiasts and love the adrenaline and rush that it brings they're still going to do it they're going to find a way to do it they're going to find a way to do it

every time but at that point in time all you can bet is the over under the money like come on man the prop best it's the props that really get people into it

right because now I got this big old parley I got this fall I got this fall in 50 parley that I put $20 on this thing might pay I'll buy the meal, too. Yeah, it might, but not no more. They ain't going to ban.

They're just saying that they're trying to scare us. Hell yeah, they ain't going to do it. They like the sports betting partners. Mm-hmm. Yeah, they do. Hey, listen, that would take a, that would take a lot with if they do, if they do that. Shiloh Sanders is going viral for only leaving a $50 tip. Ocho, watch this.

All right, thank you very much. How much? Do you want to say in tip? No, I'm not going to tip nothing. I'm going to put a negative tip where you have to pay me. Okay. All right, a $50 tip for being mean today. Thank you very much.

I'm going to post that only use you as a cheap-ass football player. Give me $15. Jeez, that's good. Oh, I forgot. This is Vegas. Thank you. Thank you. All right.

Appreciate it. Ocho, have tipping culture got out of control now? I mean, not really. I like to consider myself the one that set somewhat a standard for some of us that have the means to be able to bless those who work in the service industry. I make it a point to overtip tremendously.

I mean, well, what are you going to overtip me? 5,900, 5,950. Since you like to overtill it. I'm talking about, hey, hold on, hold on, I like, I love to take care of my people in the service industry, no matter where I go. I think they, they love to see me walking through the door. That's just me. That's just me. You know, I'm, God loves the cheerful giver. I don't do it for that reason, but that's just something I've always done. Um, I think $50 is good. I think $50 is good. I don't know how much the bill, the bill came to, but knowing that if based on the percentage that they say you're supposed to tip, I guarantee you $150. Oh, Joe. So I think he tipped well. Oh, Cho, now a lot of times you go to places the tip, the gratuity is already included.

Oh, yeah, most of the time. I mean, when they bring you room service, the service charge is already included. And they think, and they got a tip, okay, and I got a tip for you. Don't eat the egg salad and ride the bus. Please don't, because I ain't got nothing for you. Yeah.

Also, how if I go to, how do I go to self-checkout, and they talk about tip I want to know tell me that okay answer me that Ocho I'm checking myself out and you want me to leave a tip okay I call in get takeout

you want what did you do all you do is ringing up my order and you want a tip man y'all gonna get out my see I'll give me my teeth see you're a little different you're a little different you're a little different you know

I don't care how service is whether you might be having a bad day I understand all the all the the attitudes you have to deal with all the the personalities you have to deal with so when I when I come in I always want to be kind to whoever my waiter I'm gonna be kind yeah I mean I'm just saying sometimes they they be having a bad day you don't know what they've been through you don't know what they're going through so I always make it an effort I always make it effort no matter how much my bill is and you I mean people that follow

me over the years you know it could be $20 it could be $50 it could be $100 I'm always tipping $1,000 wherever I'm at. Whether it be IHOP, you know, whether, I mean, I mean, I mean, this is, this has been routine for me for the past 15 years. Guess what, Ocho? So I mean, I might have had a bad day. Do you know what I had to do to get this money that I got? Right, right, right, right.

Yeah, you work your ass off for that money though, huh? Yeah, you did. You did. I tip, you know, mainly, probably about 30. I'm normally 30%. That's 30%. Oh, okay. That's good.

That's good. car come, you know, normally I'm, you know, $40, $50 for, you know, valet. Man, but the thing, I mean, but now, Ocho, it's like the tip,

gratuity, whatever you want to call it, service charge, it's already added. So you want, so you want 18% service charge and a tip on top of it? Man, y'all, they're doing too much, man.

I like it. I like it. Yeah. What happened? Hold on, Ocho, what happened to 10%. Now they don't even start at 10%.

They started 15, 18. They want 15, 18, 22, 25. Hey, you got to understand. You got to understand, right? When you think about the service industry, right? They rely on these tips. They rely on. on these tips.

Oh, Joe. They realize they need that. I understand that and you can't, you can't take a job. I get it that they rely on these tips, but they chose that. It's like you know they don't pay anything in teaching. You know that going into it.

You can't take a job and then complain about the pay when you knew to pay was subpar to begin with. Right, but that's very, that's very hard also. You have to, you have to think about the American people. how difficult it is to get a job sometimes you you get a degree in a certain in a certain profession and it's hard to get you know a job in in in in what you graduated in and what you study four years to be in sometimes you just can't crack it but you have to find a way to make a living and sometimes you have to go you know work in the service industry I don't have a

problem I don't I know I know you don't I know you don't but I take I take all of that into account when I go to restaurants at at time so that's why I I over-tipping, always tip, you know, a thousand, sometimes, 500, you know, just to make sure, you know what, I don't know what's going on in your life. But I know one thing, when I leave here today, you're going to be all right. Well, guess what you know what? For the next time, since they know that, most of the time when I go someplace, they know me. They know what's going on in my life.

They say, Mr. Sharpe, we're going to tip you. Here, $25 for you, Mr. Sharpe. You say they're going to do that? That's what I'm thinking they're going to do that for me. Since they know my struggle, since they know my struggle, they're going to break your boy off. Don't even worry about them. Yes, sir. We're going to cover this bill for you.

Yeah. Hey, and I see some people talk about Ocho, stop the cap. Do me a favor. Like, if you're in the chat right now, go on Google, all you do is just go on Google and type in Ocho, single tips. They, they all pop up there. Hell, I, man, I tip, matter of fact, remember I tip them people $5,000 that time? Yeah. Chat, chat, do y'all see this?

This man. No, I'm not, no, no, no, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not playing. I'm just saying that that one time, like, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was having a bad day. Somebody had just passed away. They had just had a child and, and, I'm like, what, what, damn, I'm like, I, they made me, I was, I was tearing up. So I'm like, you know, I'm, I ain't even say nothing. I just, I just wrote it down in there and I walked out. I'm not, oh, Joe. I'm not, if I order to. takeout, I'm not been to go up there, give you my credit card and give you a tip for ringing up my order. If I'm at a restaurant and they bring me my meal or that, you know, I'm not constantly

having to ask for things. I'm, I think 30% is a good, as a tip amount. Because normally I'm going and I'm spending two, three, four hundred dollars. God damn. With that being saying, that's why you don't want, that's why you don't want to tip. You, you, you're spending, oh, that's why I don't eat, I don't eat at those kind of restaurants with my meals cost that much. Well, I'm taking, I'm taking my kids out, I'm taking my family out. So that's, that's what I'm saying. I ain't got no problem tipping, but I'm not going to tip you. I come in and pick my order up.

All you do is ring it up and you think I'm about to give you $20, $30. No, I'm not. Okay. Okay, my bad, my bad, my bad. See, see, you eat at nice places. I eat at Bahama Breeze. I eat at Longhorn with the kids. I go to I hop.

So the places I'm going, my meals are never over $50, $50, which is why I'm so willing to go large like I normally do. You know, so I mean, but I get it. I get I understand. We, we just different. We just different in that area. Yeah. No, I don't have no problem tipping.

Like I said, I'm normally, no matter what Valley is, if it's 20, I normally give $40, $50 for Valley. That's just standard. Hey, here you go, bro. But no. man, they're getting out of hand with this, Ocho, they're getting out of hand. I mean, now you got

self-checkout and they want a tip. Right. Who getting the money? The computer had a bad day too? Oh, I guess he got a few little microchips when he get home. Get out of the big thing. Y'all better to get. Oh, hell dog.

That's funny. Yeah. Ocho, I tell you what? They having bad, the restaurant should put to fit the bill. So you know what? I know the standard is like $7 an hour, $10 an hour. We're going to pay you all $25 an hour. We're going to pay you all $30 an hour. It shouldn't be, it shouldn't be on the consumer. Yeah, you're right. You're right. And we're

the only, I think maybe if I'm not mistaken, we're the only place where most of the people in the service industry, they don't make a livable wage. Hell, it ain't the service industry. The only way they don't make a livable wage. There are a lot of more folks that don't make a livable living wage. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're right, you're right, you right, you're right. But some of those other industries where those people work, there's nowhere where you can tip them.

Teachers, teachers, teachers are severely underpaid. They are severely underpaid. It's ridiculous, especially what they do and what they have to deal with, especially the kids these days. Oh, yeah, for sure. Oh, my goodness. Look, the school system is turning, all it turned into for the most part of the daycare, so parents can go to work. kids be bad as a mofo if you if you if your kid's bad at home and you know if your kid bad people like oh that don't that I am shocked I am appalled well I'm a David your kid bad

and you sit it bad ass for me to have to deal with for for what what kids go to school from eight to three eight to two you couldn't wait to drop him off he's sick leave his sick ass stay your ass home and stay with him bring his sick ass after school and get everybody else sick. Yeah. Man, what? If you, listen, if your kids bad at home, you already know it's gonna get to school.

It used to be, look, I don't know. I mean, there was, there was you look. I'm not gonna say to the kids didn't, didn't misbehave, but they kid not, they're getting out of control. They're getting out of control, man. And they put their hands, they put their hands on teachers,

they're talking, back they're doing all type of stuff right I thought that's at home I'm I I thought that at home ain't no way a kid behaved like that you the kid behave he bad at home she bad at home yeah because ain't no way Mary Porter would sit me in the act of a fool because I don't I don't got my tail tore up before going to school so I'm gonna be on my best behavior because they must run and call called Mary Porter then you're gonna get it again get before school and after school oh no After at the school, but they call Bessie Mae, hold on, if they call Bessie Mae Flows and she got to leave the school where she at to come to my school.

I'm going to take the phone out of the hook. I get home and take the phone out of the hook. Hey, like my grandma say, wherever you show out, that's exactly where you get wo out. Oh, Joe. You want to show off in class? I'm whoop your ass in class. Hey, I take the phone out the hook. Who left this phone out of the hook?

I don't know. to be um a school calling it'd be busy as hell yeah you got a bit of caller here me don't live here yeah wrong number like I said I don't have a problem tipping

I tip anybody that's ever waited on served me or or I've gone places I tip I do I ain't got no problem tipping Hey, every, I leave a hotel, Ocho, I leave $30, $40 side to bed clean. They come in, turn down service, I give them $30.40. I bring extra cash, because if I'm on the road to clean my room, hey, boom, they're going to leave a couple of extra balls of water. You need extra towels, face club, something like that.

Okay, cool. I ain't got no problem. I don't have a problem tipping. Well, I think y'all know that last night. I mean, Joe had his thing, and I was like, out the muscle. And you see he's already tweeted because it's already done So I ain't got no problem helping But nah man

They just trying to do too much man They're trying to do too much Somebody talking about unc cheap I just gave Joe 10 grand last night Y'all talk about unc cheap Well then you gave Joe 10 grand Why you're hopping on me by that? You know I gave Joe 10 grand

You were supposed to match it We were supposed to feed 500 people in Atlanta No you hold on you How are you just going to throw a number out there for me? You don't know what I got to do with my money. It's a holiday time. You're talking about you, you're going to tip it. You're going to tip $1,000.

We're going to spend my, you're trying to spend my money all the time. Hold on $1,000 and $10,000. That's two, that's two totally, I got 37 goddamn kid. You're talking about just give 10,000 the way. I got a kid. They got to feed Christmas coming up. You just tip something. You just tip something.

You just tip one person, five, $1,500, $5,000. I just fed $250 people. Well, I, I fed, I fed 25 people. I'm surprised why Joe A tweet about me? $40? You said $40? Nah, no, I sent, uh, what, I'm, baby, I think, I think she sent $2,000. Yeah, we know, we, we, we're going to feed all of them.

We ain't going to feed that many. Hey, well, we, well, hello, how many $2,000 feed? what was it 50 100 50 50 50 oh that's that's a good number that's a good number that's a good she'll spend 250 I thought we I thought we're going to feed 500 on your night camp feed 500 home and family yeah everybody's like yes yeah oh oh yeah I hey I fed 50 man Jesus Jesus hey Jesus had a fishing too low the bread he filled 5,000 though yeah well i ain't i ain't got that guy no no no too loaves of bread and some fish hey god god god god love the chill forgive him hey hey what's the preacher what's the priest of

that lot of the dough let's say you uh yeah now they talk about a lord told me somebody go hey 21 people go give me a thousand dollars today so you ask you where they get that money from that would you need that because that ain't me because hey they pass that pan around you gonna think about the game ocho the wave yeah go pass on through every time they come and you know and you know god don't like no noise no god don't like noise don't put no change in now god don't like no noise but look i got like i said i ain't got no problem tipping but you know they're getting out of hand they trying to sneak it in there ocho it's already in the bill and they put it out in their tip.

Bro, you are already to charge 18% and then you're going to talk about you want to leave 10, you want to leave 15, 18, 22, 25, 28, 30. You know, they're going to write thank you

with a little heart and the little smile and a little smiley face. Yeah, I don't know. I'm going to draw one back with a frown. Hey, that's all I got for you. Like I said, I ain't got no problem, but hey, they, they, they do it too much.

Now, they just think everybody just, just stand there and just, I guess, I guess we're supposed to, uh, uh, uh, greeders and cedars. Somebody to walk you, I guess somebody's supposed to pay somebody, do they, you supposed to tip when they walk into your seat? Your table. Hey, everybody, everybody needed tip. No, hell no. All right, we're going to get you out here on this when it's time for our final segment of the evening. It's time for Q and A. T.S. Car Wash and Detail Service.

What is something that your grandpa told you that stood out with you for the whole life that's saying for Ocho and his grandma? Ocho, you want to go first? Something that my grandmother and grandfather always told me, I think, my favorite saying, my favorite saying, which is one of the reasons why I am as financially conscious as I've always been which is why I'm probably not a statistic being I think maybe 87

almost damn near 90% of us you know gold broke two years after we removed from the game of football and I learned at an early age and having financial discipline and my grandma always told me and my grandfather as well a fool in his money

shall soon part ways especially when you don't you don't move right when when money and an image becomes your identity and you get lost you get lost in and in trying to look in trying to look rich you know and i think i was i was i was really good at understanding that the value was not anything i could purchase it was me and myself and my name alone was the true value and and it just didn't make sense in taking my money and in making somebody else rich to prove to others that I got money it just it just didn't make sense to me and so

that that that one little phrase that that stuck with me forever and still to this day yeah I think the thing that uh he said never mistake habit for hard work so it just because you do something over and over don't mean you working hard and the uh the analogy I like to use is people go to the gym man I go to the gym every day you look the same So that's a habit. You ain't working hard. And I make sure whatever I do, I'm working hard. Tino Davis, say, is it fair to label Justin Fields a bust?

It's hard to say a guy that came from his situation that made it to the NFL, but the expectations, he has not met expectations. Right. And, you know, I think the thing is, oh, Cho, is that when you look at professional athletes, everybody ain't going, everybody ain't going to pay it out. They make it seem like every restaurant that opened. So if a restaurant, if a restaurant is open, so I've seen restaurants, Dan Taylor's in Atlanta. It's been a staple.

It's closing. So is it a failure? restaurants stay open for 10 years and close it's a failure so I just want to so I'm just trying to how do we judge it right

everybody is not going to be Brady manning or I don't care everybody's not going to have that level of success or have the level of success that we thought they would have or have or maybe they even thought they would have right and I just think for me just watching him

and watching him over the years I just don't know if he's ever going to be what we thought he would be TJ my patrons are back nine and two on the dirty on to the dirty tigers oh they're gonna put something on y'all oh they're gonna put something on y'all

oh gazales godzales wait wait okay you know what I mean the Bengals play the Patriots, then they play the Dolphins. It's over for y'all. It's over. Oh, hey, I don't know about that.

The Patriots. That defense is over that. It's over now. And your quarterback not mobile. So your quarterback not going to be able to get away from like a, like a, that's fine. That's fine. You know, we open up the game with the quick game. We open up the game to a quick game.

And Gazale is going to have his hands full with tea or. No, no, no, no, no. You know what Gonzales is going. You know what Gonzales is going. Okay. He's going to have a long day. Not as long as y'all. Eli, braver to the Falcons

who would have fed families with the talent on that team. I think Rahim is gone if they lose to the Panthers on Sunday. I think you're right. After the season, though. Tino Davis, Ocho, you know how I told you

my uncle passed on Saturday, I'm buried my uncle in a custom jersey with y'all number. Team colors keep being amazing. Tino, man. Thank you, man. We're sorry to so sorry to hear about the passing of your uncle, man. But thank you so much for your support.

God bless and stay up, man. I appreciate that, man. That means a lot to us. Eadie. I just think Justin had potential, but it's currently scared mentally and emotionally. Watch his rookie year versus the last couple of years. He's broken his mind, but he has shown he has the ability. His first two years, bears broke him completely.

completely. Well, look, he's shown flashes. You see flashes? Oh, Cho, you saw the comeback that he had against Cincinnati. Oh, yeah. So we've seen flashes, but we see, we don't see enough. We see more things that call you, like, damn, than things that we say, oh, yeah, okay, now we see more of the other versus the latter.

So I just hope he can get it figured out. That's what I do. Chewing in from the 73, high run it. Brable entered the Patriot dynasty in 2019, only to go there and rebuild it back again. Isn't that ironic, don't you think? That's crazy. General Syracusey, Peyton Manning is overrated just like Lamar, beast in the regular season trash in the playoffs.

Peyton gave his dad's team their first Super Bowl. Okay. You say it's overrated? That's your opinion. Danny Lujo Okanocho, Currie leaving under Armour, what's your reaction? Surprised? Nike probably say, hey, you know what?

We let this man get away. We ain't going to let him get away twice. Because think about it. Yokic is with some. Yeah. But he can go. He can wear his own. can wear for the time being yeah he's yeah i think step state step's say you're going to go

independent huh or you're going to go independent i mean that's what i saw you're going to go independent unless nike come in there with something crazy okay okay do your thing curry tray hey unko what's the most dominant quarterback in you guys's era in your opinion i mean brady obviously especially my era Well, I called a lot of arrows. I called Joe Montana. I was in Joe Elway, Burino, Brady, Manning. Steve Young.

Brady? Brady. I only called Brady won one year. They won in 03. No, my last year, they won it two, 03, because I retired in 0.4. two years and I remember playing Brady in

2002. I'm like damn he won the Super Bowl. I didn't see it. Man the next year my last year in Denver man I just went through a game with a touchdown on us with like 20 seconds, 30 seconds of the clock. I said yeah, yeah, he's good. He's going to be good for a while.

Mm-hmm. Oh man. I'm going my quarterback. seven quentin may should I start following these players wise for my parley fash tag feeling uh man I guess I just think the thing else I mean people think oh Joe you know you play in the NFL and it's kind of like the college coach you go pick you up or the high school coach pick you up with your junior high coach it's not like that in pro it's not no that's why a lot of times they have

therapist they need somebody to go talk to sports psychologists or whatever the case may be when it's going bad they have somebody to talk to or they talk to a former coach or they talk to a former friend or someone to bounce things up up because that it wasn't the head coach is and that's not what because they have so many other things going on truck with each sharp and ocho the goats truck with e appreciate that man thank you for your support thanks for tuning in nicholas jeffrey Uncle Ocho, will you guys ever do an interview at the Breakfast Club with Charlemagne to God, Jess, DJ Envy? I think that would be a great sit down.

Ocho, you did one, did you? Yeah, yeah, I did one on behalf of HBCU and, uh, in, in, in, in, how are you with ABCU? You are they going on to know HBCU? I represent one. I don't know, represent, hold up. I'm, I'm a great, I'm a great representative and ambassador for, for, you know, the highest of the Seven Hills

Florida A&M You went to Oregon State I was at Oregon State for two months You weren't at oh you wasn't at FAMU I was hey I was listen I was at Oregon State Two months how many how many months were you at FAM? How many months were you at FAMM I listen I've been in FAMU since 1984

He bet I've been a part of FAMU since 1984 Yeah Yeah Yeah It's in 1984. Benar Rattler. Highest of the seven hills.

Oh, would I go sit down with Charlemagne, the God, jazz, DJ? I would consider it. I got to make the rounds. I got to make the rounds at some point in time. I got a couple of people on my list. I'm going to go sit down with. Yeah.

Penn Steed is 32. Perfect way to start my birthday watching my favorite Uncan Ocho. Could you guys please shout out my wife Amanda who's the most amazing wife and mother that me and our kids could ask for? Absolutely. Amanda, happy birthday.

Hubby said you're an amazing wife and an amazing mother. That is a great combination. Say he couldn't ask for a better wife, a better partner, better companion. So happy birthday, enjoy this day, this very, very special day and many, many more to come.

Thank you. Penn, thank you for watching, bro. Appreciate you supporting us. TJ, love all. Y'all are amazing at everything y'all talk about. Keep up to good work. I just wanted to let you guys know. TJ, thank you, bro.

I appreciate that. We love here. Look, we're not perfect. We try to do the best we possibly can, but we appreciate support like that. Viet Tran, hey, Uncle Ocho, Cooper Cup, coming back to play the Rams. I remember Peyton asked him,

his return to play his former team, but how was it? for you when you played your former, when you played the Bengals. Did you play the Bengals on Cho? Nah. I played the Broncos when I was, I played the Broncos twice in the playoff game and the regular season, won both.

And then I played the Ravens when I went back to Denver, two times it was O and two. It's obviously, you know, the difference is you walk into a different locker room. Yeah. You know, you say your pleasantries and do you get ready to do your business. I remember when I went back to Baltimore with Denver, they had blueberry donuts waiting for me. When I went back to Denver with Baltimore,

they had blueberry donuts in my locker waiting for me. So it was great. Jason Zeldorf, Lamar is over-hyped and overrated. The day he gets a ring is the day the world ends. Well, look, I figure he got it, I give him, I think he can still play at the level that he's playing at for another five, eight years

that'll put him at 16. It's hard for me to see him as good as he is that he wanted to get at least one. All he needs is one. He don't need five.

He don't need six, seven like Brady or he needs one. Breer Carter, Ocho, what's your Bahama Breeze order? I usually get the beef impot?

What's that? Impan. What is that? No, no, I don't. That's why I'm asking. I'm asking. I never had it. Really?

No, I ain't never heard of that. Yeah, yeah. It's like that. It's like that. Oh, okay. You know what the empanada is, Ocho? Yeah, I don't eat them either. I know what it is, but I don't eat it.

eat everything else though but okay go ahead so what's your order yeah yeah oh my meal bahama breeze is jerk chicken pasta small portion no asparagus with extra chicken a side order of sweet plans and a coke with no ice i ain't never been to bahama bahama braise so i ain't got the order yeah flora said it's not a question the tidy request of godotcho i'm jamaican and i'm damn proud one please keep my country in your prayers and we'll still recover love y'all Don't change this. It's special. Yeah, Flair, appreciate you, man.

To all our Jamaican fans out there, you know, we go back and forth, especially around the Olympics and the World Championship, but, you know, we hold you guys in a very, very, very high regard. Thank you for your support. And hopefully everybody is staying safe now. Sorry for your loss. Anybody that lost property or maybe a family friend or a loved one. But Nightcap is sending our thoughts and prayers

to all those that were impacted by this terrible storm. So stay praise. up and hopefully everybody's recovering very, very well. Flair, thank you, man. Thank you for your support. That concludes this episode of Nightcap as the New England Patriots run their record to 9 and 2 and stay. There's a top scene in the AOC East

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