Club Shay Shay - Nightcap - Hour 2: NFL shows out for HBCU, LT calls out Micah Parsons, Kupp in Washington?
Episode Date: February 26, 2025Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson recap the top NFL stories of the week. Topics include all 32 NFL teams attending the HBCU combine. Later, the legendary Lawrence Taylor says he ...wants Dallas Cowboys LB Micah Parsons to STOP podcasting and put his focus on football, Cooper Kupp could find a potential landing spot in Washington and much more!04:00 - Micah Parsons responds to comments about his podcast09:00 - All 32 teams attended the HBCU combine12:30 - LT says “less podcasts, more practice” for Micah Parsons26:11 - Cowboys overhaul coaching staff32:49 - AJ Brown purchases mannequin for his unwashed Super Bowl jersey37:13 - 2024 Eagles Super Bowl team on top of CBS all-time Super Bowl champ rankings42:45 - Commanders trying to trade for Cooper Kupp?49:20 - Lamar Jackson gets a new hairstyle58:35 - Travis Hunter to attend NFL Combine as a WR and DB(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Ocho, Michael responded to comments on his podcast today. He tweeted, LOL, I want to do people hate my podcast because it's actually good or do
people hate it because it's bad because hella people in the NBA and NFL have podcasts and
no one has a problem.
Look at Ocho.
I'll beat you the F up if you stop your podcast.
You have a voice and a platform.
Use it or deal with the consequences from me.
Listen, I like it.
I like the podcast.
I like the era that we're in.
Obviously, the national media was in control of the narrative and a perception of athletes.
I like the fact that athletes now have a voice.
They cut the middle man out.
They cut the middle man.
And I like the fact that I don't think it gets in the way.
I don't think it's a distraction
because when it's time to play the game of football
and that whistle blows, everything on the outside of that,
it doesn't matter.
You don't see it.
We don't see it.
I don't know how other people operate
where they allow things on the outside to affect them
when it's time to play football,
but that's just not me.
And I look at Micah Parson as one of those type of individuals
who plays at the highest level and is really good
in what I call the precious situation,
wearing that star on his helmet,
and he always showed up to the occasion.
Now at times he might say things he shouldn't say
because it puts pressure on everybody else around him
Well, they have to they have to show up to the party for some of the things he said
But other than that man talk you talk people want to hear about yeah, you know, everybody else is hush hush
Everybody else quiet, you know, you have a game you have a good game. You have a bad game. He doesn't hide
No, he talked we talked when he win, he talk when they lose.
I think more fans should embrace that.
I agree with Joe-Joe.
I just think the thing is, like bro,
the only problem I got with Micah
is that he talks so positive about everybody else players?
But he doesn't talk positive about his own quarterback. He's hyping Joe burrow Joe burrow should have been the MVP Joe burrow Joe burrow Joe burrow
He never get he was based on statistics
All I know is that when he says top ten quarterbacks his quarterback wasn't one of them
So let me ask you a question if they ask Ocho Cinco a top ten quarterback, even if Carson isn't one of them you leaving my
No, you're not No, no, he won't be in every thank you that's all that's all I'm
saying I think and then obviously I don't think Michael was probably thinking
about it like that obviously when the when the question was asked you know he
was just you know just rambling off what he thought who we felt his top ten were
and not putting back in it probably it should have dawned on him.
We talk about a defensive player.
I'm an offensive player.
So the first thing I'm gonna name is obviously my quarterback
who's responsible for my success.
I agree.
Now, if it was C.D. Lamb who was asked that same question,
guess who will be in that top 10?
And probably gonna be the first quarterback.
Ask me who the best safety was, Steve Atwater.
Yeah. I'mwater. Yeah.
I'm taking my guys.
They're great guys.
But I'm saying,
I won championship. Those guys ain't
with me no championship. You're not gonna win no championship
with Joe Burrow unless you get traded there.
It's gonna be that. I'm always
gonna put my guys up.
I'm always gonna praise my dog. I don't give a damn if he can't can't do nothing sit on the porch. That's my dog though
I don't care if your dog can dial the phone
That ain't got nothing to do with me. That's not my dog. My dog lazy, but that's mine
So I'm always gonna hype up. I'm gonna hype up my guy, but that's a look
He has a way of doing thing So I'm always going to hype up. I'm going to hype up my guy. But that's a look.
He has a way of doing things. I think the thing is he's going to learn his trial and error when you talk as much as we talk.
And I tell people this all the time.
When you talk for a living, you're going to make some mistakes.
You're going to say, because sometimes you're talking faster than your brain is processing it.
So you're going to say, sometimes you're going to open your mouth and the the toe gonna pop out because you got your foot in your mouth.
It happens on shows.
Think about how much I talk for it.
Nightcap, I got two shows of ESPN.
I got five shows of nightcap.
I got Plum Shae Shae.
Yeah.
It's gonna happen.
You know, people ask me all the time, they time, man, how you don't lose your voice?
Cuz when I go home, I don't talk.
And this is the one thing about Michael Parsons having to podcast too is
I know what I get on the field from him on Sundays. Quarter one, quarter two, quarter three, quarter four. I know what I get.
Ain't no question about it. I can close my eyes. I can tell you what he gonna do
It don't matter who he playing
So he gets a little leeway in that manner now everybody else if you ain't not doing the goddamn feeling you ain't doing nothing
There's no reason for you to be talking at the game or having podcasts in the first place
Cuz you ain't doing your job and you do your job on Sunday
What is there for you to talk about?
All 32 teams attended the HBCU combine.
We can't make an NFL team graph HBCU players or pick them,
but you can show what their abilities are.
It's four or five of these guys to me that can be in this league.
I agree. No, we're not, we're not saying look, but if you don't see, if you don't see them, obviously,
I want your scouts had to come see
what Savannah State had to offer.
I mean, they came and they tested in my junior year,
they came and looked.
We had a couple of guys, like we had a guy named
Bobby Curtis, and he was outstanding.
And so, you know, they would come down
and obviously when something, you know,
you hear about, hey man, this guy might go to the NFL.
So, Scott's going to be there. We played Central Florida and, you know, we play teams like that, play Georgia Southern.
Okay, Scott's going to be there. Oh, I'm going to shine.
You might come there looking for somebody, but I guarantee you when you leave you're going to ask who that number two?
Hey, Bill, that number two.
He a sophomore.
Okay.
Uh-huh, and that's one thing I always say,
the eye and the scouts lie.
A lot of players, they always focus on
going to the right school, you know,
going to the PWIs, and listen, it don't matter where you go.
Because when the scouts turn on the film,
all you gotta do is pop out of the...
If you really who you think you are
It don't matter where you go
Is what you do when you get there? They will find you
You can play football with the sisters of the north in alaska
When they turn the film on and they see that certain number that's always active and popping out on film, it's
easy to stand out.
If everybody went white and there's one person in black, you're going to be able to notice
it right away.
When you turn on the film, they will notice you.
It doesn't matter.
Hey, I tell you what, if you don't know what my number is, go watch Savannah State.
I guarantee you, at the end of the game like man who's that number two yeah
oh yeah oh yeah and matter of fact and if you do if you do if you do go to
smaller schools and you don't pop out on film there then what you gonna do when
you had a bigger school come on that
if you really who you think you are man I, don't get me started. I'm not here to preach. It ain't something. But that's how I was. I was
always, I always wanted to show up, Ocho, because I remember we had,
Ocho, where's that? Hold on, what do they call them?
Jamboree. You know the Jamboree, did y'all have Jamborees?
We had Jamboree in high school, at Mylander Stadium,
at Mylander.
So you play one team for a half,
and then you play another team for a half,
and then that team will play another team for a half.
So we had those, and so we had a spring,
my senior year, my junior year, we had a spring game,
and we had this player, and coach was like,
Coach Hall was gonna put us all
on the team together stack the team to make sure I said nah I want to be on the
other team because I knew all the scouts Limpson Georgia South Carolina all the
scouts gonna be there hey Graveyard had to show up old chump
nothing no sir no sir I cut. No, sir.
I'll pay. Oh, the.
Graveyard with everybody.
Oh, Joe, I'm telling you, when I left the field, there were bodies everywhere.
I think the graveyard was here.
Those are the good old days.
I'm with those. The legendary A. original LT now we got a little LT
LaDania by dog was Michael Parsons to stop podcasting and put his focus on football
He's a great player, but guys, let's do more. Let's play more football. Let's podcast
Micah in particular he'll have a
Movie action movie.
The brother got it.
But don't forget where you are at.
Listen, I like LT and anything coming from one of the greatest,
if not the greatest of all time, especially on the deepest end.
And he's talking about one of the greats right now.
I agree, but I kind of disagree, especially with the times that we're in right
now.
Michael Parsons, he plays really well.
He plays at a very high level along with his podcast.
The podcast doesn't take anything away from him on the action football field between the
lines.
When the whistle blows, you know what you're getting, Woody Levin.
You know what you're getting from uno uno.
Every time.
Now, when you look at them defensively,
you'll say, well, they got some weak spots.
Well, Mike the only place in one spot,
he can't be everywhere.
Sometimes he's stretched out sometime.
You know, sometimes they go down into three.
Sometimes they got him sitting down in the box
at a linebacker position moving around,
trying to find ways because he's good in space.
Real quick, stop lying.
All that, oh, we gonna have a Ravens defense.
We gonna have a Seahawks defense.
But he's supposed to say that, huh?
No, you don't, you ain't gotta say nothing.
Keep your mouth shut, Ocho.
No, you don't.
You've gotta stop telling these guys
they got to say something.
All right, guys, I understand they did,
but you have to believe in your team
and who you're playing for.
Give it to yourself.
So how did he, okay, he said what he said.
Okay, we gonna win.
When he don't win, how that make him look, Ocho?
Well, it make him look crazy, but you know,
can I say something real quick?
Yes!
Let's say he say something crazy all the time, right?
Michael Parsons been talking crazy all season,
you know, this season.
When the Cowboys do play, you know who do show up?
Who knows?
Jump in the passing game.
What about when they get the ball run down their throat?
Hey, you know they run away from you, huh?
They ran away from LT.
What'd he do?
They ran away from Reggie.
Yeah, you're right.
You're right.
Listen, I mean, LT, as I understand, we're in a different time.
We're in a different era.
You know, some guys like to talk about the game of football after it's being played.
They focus on it when they're at it, but in their off time, they have podcasts.
That's just where we are right now.
Our thing can change if he stops doing his podcast and all of a sudden he can, I mean, no.
Michael Parsons is a player that he is.
He's one of the great ones in the NFL
right now at what he does.
And it just, it is what it is.
I like the L.T.'s opinion though.
Pass or chain got a podcast?
That's not him.
Got a podcast? That's not him. The physical player of the podcast? That's not him. That's not him. Got a podcast?
That's not him.
The physical player of the year.
But that's not him.
You call out, let me finish.
You call the names that are good at what they do
at their Pacific positions,
but that's not what they wanna do.
Michael Parsons wants to have a podcast
because he likes to talk.
Some guys wanna win.
And some guys wanna be famous and promote themselves.
Now, which one you wanna be? Cause see, the quickest way to build a brand is to win and some guys want to be some guys want to be famous and promote themselves now which one you want to be because see the quickest way
to build a brand is to win
Michael Jordan brand what is it Maggie Johnson brand what is it
Peyton Manning Tom Brady Patrick Mahomes what would that be Joe Montana what
were their brands based on, Ocho? LeBron James, Steph Curry.
Hey, you heard everybody use your name?
You heard everybody use your name, right?
They were ball dominant, and were in control of those wins and losses.
You talk about a defensive player, you talk about a defensive end
that can change the trajectory of a game but has nothing to do with wins and losses.
Oh, it definitely does. So the LT didn't impact the game?
Come on now, we know that.
Okay, what about Ray Lewis? Did he impact the game?
Of course.
What about Brian? Okay, what about Brian? How was Brian bringing?
What is it you say that? Yeah. He can impact the game though, because you know. Hold on.
So Mike Parson don't impact the game? I'm just asking you. Oh no. There's been a lot of guys
that impact the game. We ain't just. You do realize we ain't talking about no slouching now.
We talking about Mike Hogan.
No, no.
There have been a lot of guys that impact the game.
There have been guys that impact the game less, but one more and got a bigger plan.
That's all I'm saying.
This is the team game.
I just want to remember that now.
The other game that ended with a team. You mentioned Prime. Do you see what team Prime was playing for? I just wanted to remember that now. We talking about the game.
You mentioned Prime.
Do you see what team Prime was playing for?
Do you see what else was around him
while he was doing what he was doing?
Guess what?
They went and got Prime.
San Francisco said, you know what, we can't beat Dallas.
We gotta go get Prime.
They went and got Prime.
What did the Cowboys do?
Go get him back.
It ain't that complicated, Ocho.
I'm just saying, look, I get it.
I'm with you when you're right.
I'm with you when you're right,
but also, we're in a different time right now.
We are. We are.
I think the thing, Ocho, I think the thing is,
is like, look, Michael wants to have a career
after football, and it seems to be
he wants it to be on the media side.
No problem whatsoever.
And I think what he's doing is he's starting out,
because I had a radio show when I was in Denver.
Started, I think I started in like 96.
My guy Don Martin, I know you're watching the show.
He was at I Heart radio for a number of years
I don't know. I don't know if Don's still there, but he was my producer
So Don and I we go way back and so I kind of like I really didn't know
What what I was gonna do, but I'm like, hey, they like would you like to do a
Radio show. Mm-hmm. Like yeah, how much I'll pay you
Paying a whole lot of Joe, but it gave me an opportunity to talk.
When they asked me to come in to do the local news,
I do that.
You know, hey.
And so I knew I could do something in the media.
I was always very candid, very straightforward,
but I don't think there was ever a doubt
that anybody that had ever been with me,
ask my teammates, football was at the front
front.
Right.
Anything that interfered with that wasn't gonna happen.
So my radio show was I would tape it out the Friday's practice, go in there, hit that thing
for about 25 minutes.
Right.
I'm done.
Done.
Right.
I'm done. That's's it for me it'd been
very interesting oh Joe and people I've gotten asked this question if you were
playing it today would you have a podcast I wouldn't mm-hmm I'm too I can't
but I have a singular focus I'm only I've only been good at a handful of things right but not another side name never simultaneously. Mm-hmm
That's why I'm not married. I was either I was good at football and a terrible boyfriend
Hey, that was a great boyfriend. I'll be terrible at football. So guess which one I had to go
Hey boy, what are you talking? I hear me
Guess which one I had to go. Hey, what?
What you talking about, you hear me?
I'm just being, I'm just, I'm just,
I'm just honest, Ocho.
I'm just honest.
That's why, so I have a singular focus.
If you notice, when I'm good at something,
I'm great at it, because I'm all in.
Ain't no, ain't no Hansel and Gretel.
I don't say no breadcrumb for or the trip home, oh, Joe?
I'm lost.
Right.
I'm lost, oh, Joe.
I ain't got no navigation on how to get back.
All I know is one straight ahead.
I'm going, we going that way.
I'm gonna get people to be with me
that believe in the vision,
and we gonna go get it done.
Yes, sir.
But that's just me, like I said,
I think, see, the biggest mistake that we make
is that we try to see ourselves in other people.
Right.
That's my biggest mistake.
That's my biggest mistake, it is.
And I'm gonna, I gotta talk.
Cause I think I can say,
Ocho, honestly, I think I can save everybody.
And you know, hey, hey man, can you do it?
Sure, no problem.
Call Shelly.
Hey man, we got to call Shelly.
And you know, it's 25 here, it's 50,000 there,
it's 100,000 here.
And my, Marvin, Marvin Demoff, who's my agent, and he's been my right-hand man for 29 years. Yes, sir
He said you got to stop this yeah
He's out he says I understand he said I understand you better than most right
I'm an 83. I think he's a 83 84 year old Jewish guy. He said but I know you and
He said but you got to stop this yet. He said you can't save everybody
He said you got to but you say you got too big of a heart. Yeah same I
Learned that quick and most of the time, you know that I learned quick no matter how much you do
Sometimes if you get first time you say no. They forget about it. They forget about it all the time to say yes.
And that's what's mine. Always trying to save or feeling like I can come in and put my cape on.
Oh, I got you. Don't worry about it. I got you.
And every time on the back end you. Don't worry about it. I got you.
And every time on the back end,
you end up regretting it.
Every time.
Ocho, I...
I don't regret it.
I mean, a lot of times I give to charities,
but a lot of times I give...
But like I said, Ocho, I said I give I give with I
don't have any expectation right right right right right nothing absolutely
nothing and um Shelley called me the other day says uh I said what's up well
you need to stop getting away so much money
I said, Sheila you call back to the blue with that she like
Yeah
Said okay, and then I don't know if she talked to Marvin or Marvin called her but he had a conversation with me today
So I'm done. I Can't help everybody. Oh Joe. I conversation with me today. So I'm done. I
Can't help everybody. Oh Joe. I'm done trying. Yeah, I'm done. I'm done
I'm done. Yeah
It's because I don't have federal government capabilities. I can't just print money to stimulate the economy. Mm-hmm
I gotta make my money.
I'm telling you, literally make my money old fashioned.
I can't go print it.
Right.
I'm good.
I'm done.
So don't ask.
The answer is no.
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Today is the 20th.
Okay, the date is 19th, February 19th.
Now it's the 20th.
Okay, the 20th is where you are?
Yeah.
So if you were, if you, if you were to go to the 20th, you're going to be in the 20th.
You're going to be in the 20th.
You're going to be in the 20th.
You're going to be in the 20th. You're going to be in the 20th. You're going to be in the 20th. You're going to be in the 20th. You're going to be's a 20th. Today is 19th, February 19th. Now it's a 20th. Okay, is 20th where you are? Yeah.
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Ojo, the Cowboys overhaul their coaches staff this offseason, parting ways with Mike McCarthy
and promoting OC Brian Schottenheimer. The Cowboys hired Arizona Cardinals Office of Line Coach Clayton Adams for
the open OC role. Here's what Adam wants to see in the offense. The same thing I
want to see, the same thing I want from every player on offense and that is to
create violence in the game. Be aggressive, run, hit. I think every
decision that we make schematically needs to lean into that direction.
So if there's a gray area, what is going to allow these guys to play more free and run
and hit and be violent? Mocho, do you think the Cowboys will be able to create a violent
offense next year?
I mean, you know, violence always starts at the forefront, right up front. It starts in
the trenches. That's where the violence needs right up front. It starts in the trenches.
That's where the violence needs to come from.
That's where the violence needs to come from.
It starts with the front five.
They got to set the tone.
That's where it comes from.
Everything else is built off what that offensive line does.
So that's where it comes in at.
So how is the offensive line going to be?
Because everything he just reiterated,
everything he just said is not going to be possible unless that is exactly like
I'm just going to throw it out there like the Eagles.
Like the Ravens.
You're right.
That's it. everything you want to do
Whatever you set your eyes to
Whatever you come into the offseason or into the season saying you want to do offensively it all starts with your offensive line
If you ain't got that
If they ain't got that mentality
No, it ain't have the tip of
And they ain't got that mentality. No.
It ain't happening.
Front to back, Ocho.
You build front to back.
O line back.
D line back.
Yeah.
And you say that, but that's a mentality.
You got it.
But if I mean, I take my hat off to teens like the Eagles who I don't know how much
they hit, but they've taken a lot of the physicality out of it.
Oh, because you can don't practice like that.
We used to practice. Yeah, we had nine on seven practice.
But we're putting you know, we're putting pads on people.
Yeah, yeah.
It's hard to you.
You go out there and you do it, walk the long sun. Hey, turn it up turn water
But it was a mindset oh we but you but a a oh yeah move a man against his wheel
Think about that chat and think about what you say you say so I get off my porch I ain't going nowhere the hell you say you finna leave here
Get off my porch, I ain't going nowhere. The hell you say?
You finna leave here?
Can you do that over and over, Ocho?
You gotta make them quit.
Somebody quit today.
And that's what, that's exactly.
They ain't quit.
By the time you get to the fourth quarter,
they gonna quit, they gonna fold.
I ain't quitting.
Yeah, for sure. quit they gonna fold. I ain't quitting.
Yeah for sure. I gotta make you turn it down. Mm-hmm. Because see I know how you run okay. Because back you know back when we played
Ocho we roll your ass up. We were cutting. And I know you're getting up quick in the
first quarter. Yeah. Oh Ocho they get up quick Oh, they get up. Hey, hey, I'm still making the best. Okay. Okay, cha-cha
Second aid the second quarter. Oh Joe. Hey, I'm still here sharp. Yeah third quarter man stay on my knees
For a quarter, you know where it ain't nowhere to be seen
But Four quarter, ain't nowhere to be seen. But you got to, it's easy to talk about something, Ocho.
It's a lot more difficult to do it.
Yeah, the coach could talk all they want to.
The coach can talk, he can talk till he turn blue
in the face, but unless you have the personnel
and the players that have the mentality
that you regurgitating or the mentality that you talk about
Man, it ain't they ain't talking about nothing
You know, but you talk about nothing what you have is
What you have right now you say whatever you want, you know, your team, you know your personnel
So you got to be careful what you say what you ask for because they're not built like that
All of a sudden just because you have all season, don't mean they're coming back
completely different next year. You are who you are.
No.
Yeah, Zach Martin has been in wars and he's been one of the premier guards.
He's one of the best guards that ever played his game.
But he's had a lot of he got a lot of miles on that body, Ocho.
He's not the same guy.
Yeah.
You know, Tyron Smith had a lot of miles on that body. Oh Joe. Yeah, he's not the same guy. Yeah You know Tyrus Smith had a lot of miles on his body. They let him go. Yeah
Still they they they they started to suffer when Travis Frederick had to retire right prematurely
Mm-hmm, and they got guys now
They're not they not built like that
Did I build like that? They can't run the football see See, you know, you know, you violent when you can run the football.
Yeah, that's what violence come in at.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
Look at the look at teams that can run the football.
They're a violent group.
Notice when I talk about offensive lines, the first thing I said was the Eagles
and I said Ravens because everybody against a wicker when they play them
and not and not changing nothing regards to who they playing Detroit is another
one oh yeah oh I forgot Penne Sulin and boys they don't mm-hmm mm-hmm they don't
play no so is this right I'm anxious to see what they do I'm seeing if they're
gonna be able to run the football Dowdell is a Rico Dottle is a is a free agent
Mmm, we'll see what they gonna do in the running back position, right?
Well, you know Zeke won't be back because they already let Zeke go
So now do they go into the draft? Do they get Gentie? I think they pick 12, 13.
Will Gentie be available?
That'd be a good one.
What running back is gonna be available?
Aaron Jones with Minnesota, they pushed his date back.
Okay, could he become available?
It seems like they wanna get something long-term done,
get him a couple of years.
So it's gonna be very, very interesting to see what the Cowboys do a running back position
If we agency will probably kind of give you an indication of kind of direction that isn't gonna go with in the draft
AJ Brown brought a life-size mannequin to put his unwatched Super Bowl jersey on display in their home
AJ's longtime girlfriend posted a picture on Instagram. That's live
in their home. AJ's longtime girlfriend posted a picture on Instagram.
That's live. One of you, your boyfriend buys a 6'2 mannequin to put his game one Superball uniform on.
He indeed did not watch it.
No, you can't watch it.
No, don't do that. That's live, man. That's dope.
That has to be one of the greatest feelings.
And obviously coming from someone who never won a Superball, played one,
but never won one, that's something I never won one that's something I would do that's something I
would do and you you see for that moment and to be able to have it in your house
man hanging up like that on the man again full display mouthpiece and all
you don't see the mouthpiece he got the mouthpiece on helmet and everything oh
yeah that's live that's live well hey hey, I would have a lot of these
We also most stuff in on the wall
Okay, okay. Okay. Okay. Okay on the wall. It's dope
That's dope. But uh, I don't know somebody because you know, they make you two jerseys
And baltimore they gave me both of my jerseys. Somebody got somebody different guys got about 32 at 33
extra Jersey, right?
Hold on let me use the bathroom real quick. I don't drink tonight. Oh, yeah
But I like that
Got the shoes and everything on the mannequin damn AJ
I and everything on the mannequin. Damn, AJ.
I don't know where the pants at. I ain't finna lie and tell you about the pants.
I know I got the jersey.
I gave the Super Bowl helmet.
I think Darryl Green got my Super Bowl helmet.
Cause I traded with him.
I'm almost certain Darryl Green got my Super Bowl helmet.
I got my Super Bowl Ravens helmet.
It's funny that I traded, remember going to the super I go with to the pro bowl I trade his
Pro Bowl helmets when y'all with Denver. I traded Pro Bowl health with Jonathan Ogden. I got that uh that original
I don't know chat who are Ravens fan, but y'all
It was like a wing or something
But it was it was kind of ugly
But J. Oh, I traded with J. Oh, he and I had the same agent. He was with Marvin Demoff as well. So
But yeah, I still got obviously my jerseys are hanging up I
Got one hell what I know for sure I don't know nobody pants I don't know what it pants are here my jerseys are hanging up.
I got one helmet I know for sure. I don't know about the pants.
I don't know what the pants are.
Nobody, I mean, the thing was like,
the thing was the jersey.
Nobody even thought, jersey and the helmet.
Wasn't nobody thinking about no pants.
Yeah, well, what about your cleats?
Because you know, your cleats,
sometimes your cleats to me a special pair
You know, especially now it's
Somebody got them
Yeah, uh, I'm trying to say cuz like when I played like my last couple of years
Nike made me pat levically. I remember time, you know, you had to really be somebody to get a cleat
Maybe pat levically I remember time, you know, you had to really be somebody to get us to get a cleat
Now everybody got a cleat. Hey who water who water the greatest heat today? I like dude on special teams and he better tell me he got you right
How you run down on special team and you got Pat leather George Oh Joe. Hey, you look like it's ain't good
No your special team get some get some, uh, some three quarters and go on
out there and make a tackle. You don't need no low top, no low top cleat pat leather.
Uh, but I was like, like I was playing the shoe and then I would practice in it and I
ended up giving to a teammate. Hmm. Where your Supermort Bowl jersey at?
At my grandma house.
My grandma house.
My little brother, my little brother.
He got most of my memorabilia.
A very good friend of mine at Cincinnati, when I left Cincinnati, he has most of my
memorabilia.
And just, I don't know what's wrong with me.
Once I stopped playing the game of football, I didn't really care about memorabilia.
I don't really have anything.
I don't have anything.
Friends of mine kind of keep everything.
And once I removed myself from the game
and wasn't playing anymore and I was at peace,
I let everything disperse to those that know me.
CBS ranks every Super Bowl champ since 2000.
The 2024 Eagles are the best Super Bowl champ since 2000 the
2024 Eagles are the best Super Bowl team since 2000
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa?
Since oh since since okay
This 2000 yeah, okay 24 Eagles are one the 2019 chiefs are two
The 16 patriots are three
2013 seahawks are four the 2020 bucks are five the 06 colts
604 patriots 08 stealers
09 saints 2010 packers, right 17 eagles
14 patriots, 2012 Ravens.
I guarantee you, if they let us play by the rules that they played by, not one of those offense scoring
on that Ravens defense, I guarantee you,
won't none of them get more than 20 points.
I could have told you that.
Let me take that back.
They won't get more than 14 points.
Listen, I could have told you that.
How many yards they one had? How many yards did Kwon have?
How many yards did Kwon have?
57?
He didn't get over 100.
He had 37 against that defense.
Hey.
He had 37, he had 57, he'd had 37.
Hey, it was different back then, man.
And that's no disrespect to the players.
Yeah, they did not let you play like that.
I don't think they understand.
I don't think they understand. I don't think I don't think they understand.
What?
As this is a great as now, they don't know that you had greatest
sake on is that ball to put that 2000 Ravens defense man.
Come on, man.
They know they going sideline and sideline right along with you.
You're not you're not going downhill, you know, you're not running.
Toss you right. You're not running stretch.
We moving nobody off the.
Take that. Take that.
He goes off the line again, but it's all against y'all.
The line back then, the 2000 Raven D line.
You're running because you got family goose man, please.
And Ray and Ray running free.
Because of standing Goose.
Ray Button.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You got, you got 340, you got 350.
And Ray free.
That would have been ugly.
That would have been ugly.
Listen, just to be able able to get it is exciting.
Yeah, you look it's kind of like Barry.
You had to see you had to see Barry in person to appreciate it understand and
appreciate him.
Yeah to see Jerry.
I was in the league when Jerry said he got the Triple Crown in 90.
So I like those great players.
You had to see him to see Derek Thomas, to see Bruce Smith,
to see Reggie White, to see those and to see Prime.
I'm talking about a Prime Prime.
Up close.
To see a Prime.
That's why you think I always speak so highly.
Why you think I always speak so highly of Randy?
Why I always speak so highly of T.O. Why I always speak so highly of Randy? Why I always speak so highly of T.O.?
Why I always speak so highly of A-Fo?
I hear from Dade County in Liberty City, Antonio.
Being able to see them dudes up close, and I've been watching the game of Hooball for a very, very long time.
For a very, very long time.
It's different when you look at stats and numbers.
The finished product, when you actually
have the opportunity to see how the product was made.
You know, the product in the lab.
When you saw the product up close on grass and understanding,
looking at Randy Moss in the DBS playing 10 yards off
and most don't need to close the cushion.
He throw his hand up and still come on.
And what is the robot? hand up and still. Come on man.
What?
It's still rub-eye.
What are we talking about?
Unbelievable.
Yeah, but those rules, look, you can't play like that
anymore, cause you look, those guys, go back and look
at that 2000 and see how many quarterbacks they knocked down I mean I saw I saw a clip the other day of
some of Ray Lewis's here or some of our shoes hit that's all that you got you
got you go I'm coming go back and watch 2000 and watch that defense it was
different man remember in 16 games they gave up a hundred and sixty five points
I don't think people and they gave up third and they gave up 35 in one game
They gave up 16 total points in the postseason in four games
That's crazy. I don't think people understand good they were
Listen from top to bottom man. There was no yeah. Oh, yeah
We have see Mac and heavy
Dwayne starts we had a kid herring and we had a woody
Rod was and safety and our nickel was a
Core Harrison I died was a Bailey and trap.
Corey. Yeah.
Got them Corey Harris, man.
I want them on Corey.
Yeah, man.
Hopefully he ain't, uh, man, I don't even tell.
I ain't gonna tell.
I ain't gonna put the man business out there, but, uh, he was, he was a wild dude,
man.
I would leave it at that because you don't me, Cory, Woody and Ray. That was the group.
So the commander is potentially interested in trading for Cooper Cup. Jeremy Fowler reports
talking to people around the league. He will have a market because he's so quarterback
friendly. Certainly Washington is looking for an complimentary number two receiver.
Washington is looking to make big moves this off season. Ojo, could they actually land Cooper
Cubs and Miles Garrett? I'm both. Is that possible? Well, actually, you know, actually it is possible,
especially with the cap growing up to what it going up after after the news I saw today.
22 to 25 million increase.
Yeah, it's possible and I like I like the move. I like the move, but you know what you know what that does?
What?
Terry McLaurin, you add Cooper Cup. I think they only they only Brown is still there.
Obviously, it takes some of the pressure over Jayden Daniels.
Got Zach Erts.
You got brother Earth.
It takes some of the pressure off Jayden Daniels.
You mean I get to have Cooper Cup who still is an elite route runner.
Again, if he can play outside, he can play inside.
He do this by anything.
He run the route tree.
Intermediate short.
Hell, he, he sneaky fast too with that.
Yeah.
If you want to see them D. I like to move.
What's about a triple crown winner, man?
Obviously.
He was just a triple crown winner not too long ago.
Ain't nothing wrong with him.
And just the nature of the business on how it works.
Go ahead and get him over there.
You made it to the Intermediate Championship?
Well, what you got?
Imagine if you add that to the piece.
Imagine you add that piece to the puzzle.
Yeah.
But look, and if I'm Washington, look, I'm going all in
because I'm doing everything I possibly can, Ocho,
because in a couple of years,
I'm gonna have to see him.
You got to see him.
Yeah.
Yeah.
He gonna show up at the paint well, don't you?
Hey, you know, I go show up at the window you remember that you watch Martin you watch Martin
Yeah
Remember the Christmas episode when they got stuck at the bus terminal and mark was the window after some answers of course
To make a call. Yeah
That's how they day for me at that window. Yeah, he can make no call. Yeah. That's how Jay-Z gonna be at that window.
Yeah, he gonna make no call though.
And Josh Harris, look, they made it abundantly clear
they're trying to win.
Oh yeah.
You see the way they move, how they do things,
they're trying to win.
Magic Johnson, look, magic with the leg, look at that.
They don't spend, I don't know, they print money in LA, the Dodgers.
They got Mookie, hell, in just two salaries,
they got a billion dollars?
Yeah, Shohei, Brady Freeman.
Mookie?
Mookie.
And they got pictures now?
Hey, I got a question.
Yeah.
Listen, I don't want to sound ignorant.
I honestly I don't.
Where all that money coming from man?
Where all that money coming from?
Cause when I watch games,
the stands will never be full.
I'm not talking about the Dodgers.
The Dodgers every year have the most fans.
They have every year.
Boy look here.
You ain't never been to Chavez Ravine
boy you talk about a
Yeah, they know I was specifically talking about the Dodgers I'm just saying in general. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah
They got two seven hundred million dollar players
Do
And they got what you call them making 40 plus million
he got making 40 a year. Aaron Judge, he got nine years 360.
Oh nigga they got they got they got I don't know I don't know what it is.
Tell me so we both know. Because if they got a money tree I'm gonna go chop it
down. I'm telling you man listen tree, I'm going to go chop it down.
I'm telling you man, listen, I was a highly sought out prospect coming out of high school, man.
I was a five-tooler.
And every time I look at them deals sometimes, I always say, you know what?
I should have stuck with baseball.
I don't know if your two was a lawnmower, a backhoe, a rake, a pick, a shovel. I don't know what your tools were, but
they damn sure wouldn't apply to baseball. I don't ask. I'm talking about baseball. Miami Beach
Senior High. Man, look me up. Google me. You can Google me. You can Google. Yeah. Yeah. Pitcher.
I was a slugger. Played first, second, third, and outfield. I did everything. Yeah, you did.
I tell you, I tell you no lie.
You know the Moller was trying to draft me out of high school
right before they won the World Series in 1997.
They did, huh?
I did, they were trying, but my grandma said no.
Man, my grandma ain't play that.
Oh, you need to focus on school.
She was tripping.
Well, that didn't work.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That didn't work.
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He shows off his new hairstyles emo Lamar. Hey, hey, that's raw. I like that. I
Like I like I like I like that. I like that. I like that. That's the only you ever had your hair straight like that Oh Joe, nah, you know, no, no, no, I had dreads
I had dreads so I they and they was locked up so I could never take it out and
Have my hair permed. I have my hair straight like that.
Ocho, your hair won't grow.
Who?
Your hair will grow just like mine.
No, I'm okay.
Whoa, your whole life.
Now you bald.
Oh, I can grow a hair full of hair.
No, you can't.
I've shown that countless times.
Ocho, Ocho, everybody 50 years ago had hair.
I'm talking about just, okay, do you want me to grow my hair?
I'm talking about just, okay, do you want me to grow my hair?
I'm talking about just, okay, do you want me to grow my hair?
I'm talking about just, okay, do you want me to grow my hair?
I'm talking about just, okay, do you want me to grow my hair?
I'm talking about just, okay, do you want me to grow my hair?
I'm talking about just, okay, do you want me to grow my hair?
I'm talking about just, okay, do you want me to grow my hair? I'm talking about just, okay, do you want me to grow my hair? I'm talking about just, okay, do you want me to grow my hair? I'm talking about just, okay, do you want me to grow ahead here. I'm talking about just...
Okay, do you want me to grow my hair out?
No, that's your head.
I'm just saying, the only reason I cut my hair consistently and I've been doing it for so long
is I don't like the maintenance that comes with having hair.
I don't want to put grease on my scalp.
I don't want to train my hair to lay down. I don't want to put grease on my scalp. I don't want to train my hair to lay down.
I don't want waves. It's like a whole tedious process and I got sick of it. When I'm ready to
go, I want to get out the shower and I want to drop my head and walk out the house.
So I'm like a man that's like a man that said I want to be broke.
Man, you think I won't have money in my pocket? And if my bank account, it's just too hard to keep up with.
Right.
I understand what you're saying, but listen,
that's apples and oranges.
Them two different scenarios.
No, Ocho, you can't grow hair.
And if you grow it, it's minimal.
Oh, I got a full set of hair right now.
Look at my hairline.
You see me hairline coming in?
Yeah. You see me hairline coming in? Yeah.
You see me hairline coming in?
No, no, you gotta go a little further back.
You started a 50 yard line.
Whoa, whoa, don't do that.
Don't do that, don't do that.
My hair like-
Started at 50.
Listen, listen, my hair,
matter of fact, I'm gonna get a shape up just for you.
What, shape what up?
I'm gonna let my hair grow and I'm gonna get a shape up
so I can show you I can grow a full set of hair
You can I like and I got good hair. I got good here
Where is that?
Huh, where's that it is I just showed you
Ocho you pointed back here, bro
shows you. Ocho you pointed back here bro. You pointed back there my hairline is right there
it's right there you looking right at it it's right there. Ocho from your hairline Ocho from your hairline to your forehead that's at least a twenty dollar uber ride. That's an A20. Listen, my hair too small so I know that's not true but I'm
just saying my hairline is intact. Ocho, you see how shiny that is Ocho? Your hair won't grow there.
What do you mean how shiny? That's the light. That's the light. That's the light
shining on my forehead. That's from my skincare routine. That's why I look like this.
That's why I look like this.
That's why the ladies love me.
It's this, the chocolate.
Yeah, you're chocolate now.
I ain't do nothing.
You can't know that.
No debate for me?
Yeah, they like that.
I solemnly swear.
They do.
Swear to tell the whole truth.
Another money choose will help another money choose or I do
One yeah one thing about it one day
When it come to chocolate one thing about women, they ain't got no problem getting cavities. Yeah me. Oh
Huh?
Talk to me now
Lord have mercy job. Yeah Jesus
What's wrong?
What happened? Here? What? I'm just telling you. I'm just telling you. Yes!
I'm not telling you what I heard. I'm telling you what I heard. Look, black bar. All I know is this.
If you'd have been my age in the 80s, you'd have got no place. Because black wasn't in.
They like Lasky. They like El DeBarge. Chico the Barge. They like them type of dudes.
No, no, no.
It don't matter what they like.
There's something I had that nobody else didn't,
and I still got it.
It's called-
It wasn't until Michael Jordan,
Michael Jordan came in, Wesley Snipes came in.
That's what put us on the map.
I've been on top of the charts since they came in.
So about mid-80s, like 80,
80 might came in at 84.
So like 86, my senior year,
been top of the charts.
Man, that ain't it.
That ain't it.
40 years I've been on top of the charts.
I feel you.
Hey, I had a special gift.
I had a-
They mentioned Al B. Shor.
Yeah, Al B. Shor, yeah, that's a good one.
Yeah, me.
Chico the Barge, L the Barge. Hey,
hey them boys, them boys were nice now. Yeah! If I was there during that time when the Lashkin
dudes was in, there was something I had that they didn't. I don't care about you making them music,
I don't care about you singing to the women, you hear me? Because I had to get for gags,
it was all about wordplay. Huh? No, they wouldn't let you talk to them. Oh, they, oh, they, oh, they,
they, oh, they gonna talk to this. They're gonna, they're gonna tell me the
brother, the brother, we ain't get no play on Joe. They won't, they won't talk
to sugar. You hear me? I'm tagging. You got a style. I'm gonna make you laugh.
I'm gonna laugh right out the drawers.
I'm gonna make you laugh. I'm gonna laugh right out your drawers.
This is.
Huh?
Yeah.
Hey.
All right.
Boy, you ain't get no play, old chump.
Went out of style just like Polly Ustin.
You can make a comeback, but.
Hey, when I think about it, Chico and L. Da Bar,
I'm talking about, now you got me thinking about the music.
The music they made, man.
Oh, they sing back then. I'm talking about that you got me thinking about the music, the music they made, man. Music.
Oh, they sing back then.
I'm talking about that's some good music.
They sing.
Oh yeah.
The music from the eighties, it was different.
Eighties didn't really happen.
Oh yeah.
Oh, they were, but see, but see,
I don't remember hearing nothing about no garden tools.
It wasn't no, no three old foes.
They ain't sing about that.
They sing about women.
They sing about ladies. They talk about women. They talk about ladies. They talk about love now
Now they talk about jumping up and down and you need to lock out of foolishness, you know
May I just say she
Man is just don't make they just don't make it
They don't they don't they don't make music like they used to old show and everybody I talked to old show
They did uh
You know r&b a dead but bro, they don't sing
Like they used to sing now
They don't big didn't know they're bad like a big because the the women used to make you beg to get them up out of it
Hey, what's not a bag of you to get up? up out of it. Hey, what song?
Now they beggin' you to get up, now they beggin' you.
What song, what song?
They beggin' me.
What song was it?
I give you my credit card, my keys in my house.
I can't think of, I gave you my son, the rain.
Yeah, who's that saying, I'll pay your rent,
I'll buy your clothes, yeah, I know what you're talkin' about,
yeah.
Man, what?
That was back in the day. Now see, if I'd have sung that song, I'll pay your rent. I'll buy your cloak. Yeah, I know what you're talking about. Yeah
Okay, no back in the day now see if I'm something that's so if I play that song somebody know you lie this You broke we see where you live at. You
Play chat what song is that check?
I give this
Okay, okay. So it was the number one baby dog was song. He was big. That might have been baby face
After seven takes six all of them
There was a day blow Joe there were the days
Maybe face over here don't put no don't talk about that with it. with it playing look here. I just I just missed those days
I don't know what was the idea. I just want to go one year. I don't nobody
Hold on what y'all know about take six
That's a gospel root take six
Well
They don't call no woman no thrillful.
No.
They don't call no garden tool.
Uh-uh.
No freak, no jump.
Just what, just one year, I just wanna go one year.
For one year, all the music, that what I want.
Man.
If they do that, they gonna get me back into it.
Man, and hold on.
Pivo Grice, man, Smokey Robinson.
But ain't nobody beg like Freddie Jackson.
Oh, Freddie.
Man, Freddie begging.
Man.
Freddie, man, y'all know Freddie beg, run up,
like, let me hear.
Y'all don't afraid of big, round up, like, let it go.
When Lenny Williams, I got to tell you a glass song.
Big Lenny's song?
When Lenny Williams, Cause I love you,
sang Cause I love you,
I don't know what that brother was going through
in that studio,
but I'll hurt for him every time I hear that song.
Mm.
He's sung it now.
Travis Hunter is now expected to attend the 2025 NFL combine as both a wide
receiver and a DB is the league split between him being a wide receiver in a
corner.
Ocho.
No, no, they're not split, but they are understanding.
Listen, he's made it abundantly clear that he's going to do what he did at
Colorado, wherever he goes.
And I think the fact that they're allowing him to do both.
That's a good thing.
Cause he gets to show off his, he gets to show off his skillset and what he can
do at both positions.
I like it.
I like it for him.
I really do.
I'm excited to see how it looks.
I think it's easy to build a package around a wire receiver.
Right.
On her.
Right.
Right.
So you play corner, you play your customary snaps, and then we come in a
situation and we'll give you a package.
We'll give you, you know, let's just say what you what you think. Oh Joe 10 15 plays on offense
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Special for you office and then the rest on defense. Yeah, absolutely
Cuz you you you you you you you fuck rock with a fine line to try to give him
You know 65 plays on defense and then another 30, 40 plays on office.
Boy, you walk with a tight rope, Ocho.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Hey, you know, the men, the men up in them NFL plays a little harder, Ocho.
They put them, they sprained them hands and quads a little bit more.
Especially you get them, you get them gangsters in front of you at receiver.
Hmm.
Ball game.
You, hey hey listen,
you exert a different type of energy.
Chase, Jetta,
Reek,
AJ Graham,
AJ,
CD,
Devonte,
Almond Ra,
Boy, hey.
It's gonna be some good work every week.
What's that?
Zay Flowers?
It's gonna be some good work every week.
Dickens?
Yeah, man.
Joe Collins?
Yep.
It's different.
You're gonna have your hands full.
But it's possible.
It's possible.
I like it.
The Volume.
Hey, it's Alec Baldwin. It's possible. It's possible. I like it. The Volume
Hey, it's Alec Baldwin.
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