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I really like this pick for the Raiders.
Yeah, a lot.
Pick for the Raiders.
A lot.
To me, for me, it takes all the pressure off the quarterback.
Because when all hell breaks loose
Hand it off. Yeah, I live to see another day. You live to see another down and plus I want to keep I want to
I want to keep capacity my homes out the field. Mm-hmm. I
Think that's the best that's the best way to beat him
You saw what the Eagles did the Eagles had the ball so much
He couldn't get a rhythm and then they have a running back like this They can hit his head off the goalpost from anywhere. Yeah. Oh, yeah
That's nice
He's extremely
Look at that. Yeah. Oh, that's his eyes with that. That's a high school. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah
He could have made it some,
you know, a lot of teams wanted to jump into the portal.
He probably could have made it with a couple of million, but he's like, you know what, I started here,
I'm gonna finish.
I wanna start where I finish, I like that.
You can do that when you're special.
You can do that when you're special.
It don't matter where you go,
it's what you do once you get there.
He wanted it understood, I can stay where I'm at,
and I'm gonna be fine.
He was, and he was sensational. He was. Yeah. I like this. Where the jazz going? Who the jazz taking? Memo, where is he from?
Missouri.
Oh, the wide receiver.
Olima.
To the Jets?
I like Tyler Warren to the Jets.
I like Warren.
You don't like him?
They got the, if you talk about Conklin, they got, I like Tyler Warren, but Tyler's seven
is a little high.
You think that's too high?
That's a little high for a tight end.
No, he's good.
Now, he's, he's, you don't think he's like Brock Bauer?
Yeah, Brock Bauer's good.
You like that?
Yeah! You don't think he's like Brock? Yeah, Brock Bauer's good. You like that? Yeah!
You don't think so?
Yeah.
He nice.
Man, Brock was, from Brock's first year,
Brock could've came out in his freshman year,
he was that good.
Yeah.
Did Jeff feed anyone?
Who did take it?
Yeah.
I already am.
I don't need the jacket.
Ash, what we looking like?
Ash.
Wow. Wow. Yeah.
O lineman from Missouri.
That's what the speculation is.
You don't like that?
No.
You got to protect him.
Where would you prefer them to go?
Tight end.
Tight end?
More weapons.
More weapons.
You don't think seven of them lost?
Absolutely not.
Absolutely not.
Huh?
I can't hear you.
Wait, who they picking?
Oh, that's cheating.
You want to bet?
Ahmad Membru.
Yeah.
Alright, let's bet on the next pick.
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Alright, let's bet on the next pick. Alright, let's bet on the next pick. Alright, let's bet on the next pick. Alright, let's bet on the next pick. Alright, let's bet, that's cheating. You want to bet? Ahmad Membru.
Yeah.
Yeah, let's bet on the next pick.
On the next one?
Oh, the Texas wide receiver?
Is that, that's your dad?
All right, bet.
Ooh, I like that.
All right, bet. Ooh, I like that.
Ahmad Mimbu.
OT, Missouri.
Nigeria, huh?
That's dope. Well 64332.
Golly.
He mass it.
Oh they're looking at him.
Oh he can move.
Get out the club. get out the club, boy.
Get out the club.
Good footwork.
Oh, good anchor.
Oh, he anchored down.
Oh, he nice.
The question is, how long do you, do you, do you, are you gonna move it?
That's really high for a right tackle.
Yeah.
Well, obviously, they see something.
Ooh, ooh, they see something.
Ooh, look at him pass that off.
He be nice.
To be that big, to be that size, he's very nimble.
He has good footwork.
Ooh.
Get out the club.
Well, he's marlin' folk.
Nice.
He's marlin' folks, Ocho.
Nice. He's balling folks, Ocho.
I like. I get it. I get it, Ocho. Yeah.
You know, they got a couple of running backs. Yes.
Take some pressure off of Justin Fields.
They got Brother Breeze.
Breeze Hall. Yeah. Allen.
I like it. I like it.
It's a lobby.
Who's on the clock? Who's on the clock today?
Oh, Ocho. You got wide receiver from Arizona. He's nice. He's nice. That's a good one. That's a good one. That's a good one.
So I'm thinking about McMillan who um what's Young Bull. You got Leggett. You got you got Thielen.
Thielen. No I think Thielen ain't gone. But but I like I like them giving him weapons. Right.
The more weapons you give quarterback, the quarterback, the better.
Yes.
Yes.
Like that.
Pick is in.
Who we got?
I said that first.
No, I said McMillan first.
You cheating.
Y'all cheating.
OK, next one, next one, next one.
Who's on the clock?
The Panthers?
Ooh, Shador!
Shador, number nine, let's bet.
No he didn't!
Nah, okay, number ten, ten.
Who you got?
The running back, right?
Alright, let's bet. I bet you're wrong. How much? 20 bucks?
Sign a hat? All right. If you lose, you got to give me your packet jersey. I'm going to
wear it anyway.
It seems like the Carolinas, Carolinas, they need to receive, they need weapons.
Bryce Young needs weapons.
They need weapons.
I think it's going to be McMillan.
McMillan is I think a smidge better.
I agree.
He's really good.
I agree.
Big target.
I yeah, if I'm the Panthers, I'm going offensive here. I'm going I'm giving him a weapon. You know, the reports are they're gonna take McMillan, the
wide receiver out of Arizona,
had an outstanding season in All-American.
Going into the season, he was rated as the best receiver in college football.
He didn't disappoint.
I thought he played extremely well.
And the Panthers need weapons to surround Bryce Young with to make him even better.
So I like that if they take a receiver here and if it's McMillan, I don't have a problem
with that.
Not at all. He's a good receiver obviously watching some of his route running to a bigger target for Bryce Young
He's really good and short and intermediate routes and he can go deep as well
The funny thing for him to be the size he is he's very shifty. Yeah, he's very shifted to be as busy as so
Yeah, I'm excited for him, especially for the Panthers and Bryce Young.
It's for these commercials, man.
Yeah.
Uh, is the pick in?
Oh, the pick is in. The pick is in, old Joe.
Uh.
Uh, yeah, Mexico. I like it.
Coming to the set right now is the human joystick, the great returner, Kansas City Cheese.
What returner can't return? I didn't do it. I didn't do it.
It's gonna be it.
It's gonna be it.
Wherever you want to be.
What's good? What's good, baby?
How you been, man? I been good, man. Life is good, baby.
Where's home?
I'm finna mess you up with this one. New Jersey.
Jersey? New Jersey. Boy, that up with this one. New Jersey.
Jersey?
New Jersey.
Boy, that's what love will do to you.
That's what love will do to you.
So my wife, her people are from New York, Long Island, so we decided to make life up
there.
Okay.
Yeah, man.
Our family got, you know, the kids got family close?
Exactly.
Grandma got Auntie around the corner.
Yeah, man.
I like that.
I like that. So what you been doing for it lately? Man, I been doing a little corner. Yeah, man. I like that. So what you been doing for it lately?
Man, I've been doing a little bit of everything.
I work with the league office with the legends
coordinators, head guys transition.
I'm an ambassador with the Kansas City Chiefs.
So I do a lot of grassroot marketing, community outreach
with them.
And then my wife and I, we got a little company we run.
And then I do a lot of the typical stuff when you're done.
Meetings, signings, the typical stuff. So I got my hands in a little bit of run and then I do a lot of you know the typical stuff when you're done me I sign in right so I got my hands a little bit of everything staying busy
The path of the Panthers picker in I don't know how close you follow it you look at Bryce young
He got benched last year, but when he came back in he played extremely well seemed like it slowed down for me
Did a great job?
I'm thinking to take a receiver here to give him a weapon to throw the ball to. He need to give him an offensive lineman.
He, he, he, he, he.
It's McMillan.
My receiver, you called it, you called it.
That's dope.
Hey, he's a good one too.
But he don't have time to get the ball to him.
Good one.
Hey, I bet they gonna gonna play a quick game baby.
Yeah.
Game, get it in and out.
You go quick game but I think the thing is on Joe you also put him in a situation where
now you got you know you got day two picks.
Here's some offensive linemen.
There you go.
Yeah, you normally get some of your greatest offensive linemen on day two anyway.
Yes.
A lot of those first-runners be flaming out don't they? True, true.
That's it. What you think about the Chiefs this year? What if you were GM right now and you in
the war room, what are you going to get this year to prove and help y'all? I mean everybody
knows we got to go get offensive linemen. Old line. Old line. Right. That's simple. Go get that
guy. I think it's Justin Simmons. Go get that offensive lineman if he's still there at pick 31 definitely grab
him then I think we uh we also need to go get a defensive back so I'm looking at offensive lineman
you got to replace uh Justin Reed that just went to New Orleans right got to replace him at the
safety position and go get another guy. Trent McDuffie is better in the slack we tried to play
him on the outside. I don to play him on the outside.
I don't like him on the outside.
The big receivers, man.
You put the big receivers out there,
they just back shoulder in, throwing it up, jump off.
He's better suited in the slot
and get you a big guy on the outside.
You definitely need some old linemen.
Patrick did not have a whole lot of time this year.
It really played itself out in the Super Bowl it was terrible it was like 2020 all over
again
well he's nice yeah oh Joe who's your favorite receiver coming out in the
draft this year coming out in the draft this year my favorite my favorite
receiver was Travis Hunter I mean even though he played both sides of the ball he
was exciting. I like Macmillan as well but for me Trav brings that excitement. One of those players
that can put butts in the seats and it's one of those moments like when when you before before
they hike the ball and you on the field I'm standing up because I don't know what the hell
can happen. He's definitely that guy. That's how I see Travis Hunter. And man, how crazy, full circle, this guy to get in there back in Florida,
where it all began.
That's crazy.
That's dope.
I like this, excuse me, I love this pick for Carolina.
You do?
I do, I do.
Because if you, guys started making plays
for Bryce Young when he came back in there.
Yeah, you're right, you're right.
They didn't make before he got in there. Yeah. Now granted maybe the game
slowed down a little bit for him. He got better but I think the guys around him
got better as well. Is McMillan one of those guys who doesn't come in year one
and make an impact or is he the one? He's coming in right now. He should make an impact.
He should make an impact right away. I don't know if he's gonna be Justin
Jefferson or Jamar Chase. No no no no., no. He better be I think eight he better be
This is what you can't this is what they can do they can put him in positions
Understanding his strengths and knowing his weaknesses and hide his weaknesses the best they can and the more we put him in position to make plays
You know what he's good at you know what he's not and that's see that's what NFL coaches supposed to get paid to do
But they don't't always do that.
Well, they spend so much time trying
to tell you what you can't do.
Put me in a situation where I do really good
and then hide me from what I don't do.
Is that simple?
It's that simple, but you talk to them coaches.
They're going to coach what they know.
They're going to coach what they know.
A lot of coaches can't change.
What do they do?
They're like, hold on.
This man's a damn good returner in all that space. Let's put him in the slot, give him a two-way
go. You go in, you can go out, you can go straight, you can stop. But that's what I'm
telling you. My first year, those coaches, they only coach what they knew. And the ball
off, right? It was a running game type team. They really didn't know how to... Run your
jazz sweeps? They didn't even give me jazz sweeps. They just had me returning kicks.
Right.
And then Al Saunders, who was the rival receivers coach for The Greatest Show on Turf.
Yes.
They brought that offense and then they know what to do with me.
Right.
Aza Keem type plays.
Yeah.
Right?
So I'm telling you, I experienced, I ain't telling you what I think, I'm telling you what I know.
Right.
Coaches can change your whole trajectory of your career.
You get what the wrong one?
I tell guys all the time, it ain't how high you go, it's where you go.
Because you can go really high when somebody don't know what the hell they're doing and
you're going to be lost and then people say you're a bus.
No, I'm not a bus, they just don't know how to use me.
I'm a sports car and you got me hauling trash.
I'm a sports car, not a dump truck.
So you got to understand what you have and use what you have.
Reach.
What you call them, they're the only team that hadn't drafted a quarterback in the first
round in the last 50 years.
The Cavs.
So we got Chidur going here.
Look at this. 50 years. Shador? They're taking
banks? What? Banks from Texas. Calvars banks. Receiving? Off of the tackle. Well, look. So they stick him with Derek Hart, basically.
But he hurt.
He's hurt.
So who?
Who?
Spencer Radler?
Oh, no.
You know the Cowboys pick at 12.
They not gonna do.
What they?
They not gonna do.
They not gonna do.
Think so?
Why not make a splash?
What you gonna do with that?
That gonna look for about 200 some million one more year one more year. Yeah one more year
Well, that's a good one Calvin back
Yeah, jump the gate
Jump the gate
Having banks Wow. So what is Chador going now?
What they predicted there, they say 21 to the Stevens.
Ooh.
He opened Banks.
Bro, I don't think nobody saw this. No, no, no, nobody. I mean, they're talking about Shadour, they're talking about Jackson Dark.
I don't think anybody saw this.
You have to address the quarterback situation in New Orleans, and you haven't done that
yet.
And I thought Shadour would have been a perfect fit with Kellen Moore.
I didn't do it.
Normally, there are offensive rookie coaches, they like to hiss themselves to a rookie quarterback
and we're going to grow together.
Yep. He don't have bad habits. I can't do. Normally, the offensive rookie coaches, they like to hiss themselves to a rookie quarterback
and we're going to roll together.
Yeah.
He don't have bad habits.
I can teach him.
Ooh.
Ooh.
Let's see.
Let's see what he looks like, Ojo.
Nice base, nice climb.
Second left.
Hands inside.
I like that.
He's nice. I like that. Let's see what it look like, Ojo. Nice bass, nice clav. Second level. Hands inside.
I like that.
Nice.
I like that.
Let's see what type of punch he got.
OK.
Tremendous.
Good wash.
I want to see the punch.
I got to see some pass rolls.
There it is.
Oh, nice.
Step up.
Bass was a little wide. Oh, no, you can't get that angle. Step up. Face was a little wide.
Oh no, you can't get an angel on that.
You can't get, they're guys too good,
they've been at an angel, Joe.
No, they be gone.
You can't get at an angel like that.
Huh?
Oh, number 11?
Number 10?
Okay, number 10.
To where?
Chicago? Chicago.
I like that. I like that.
They're gonna be good this year.
Let it out. Let it out.
You got Cole Comet. You have Tyler Warren, you have Roman Duesley, you got
DJ Moore, you got a running back.
They upgraded the office a lot.
Yeah.
Wait, they're telling it to Warren?
They're telling it to Warren?
I know. Oh, they're telling the Lord? They're telling the Lord?
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Oh, they're doing the pick?
Yeah.
What is the schedule?
Oh, they talk about the schedule release.
Okay.
They're not going to release it tonight.
That would be dope. What is the schedule? Oh, they talk about the schedule release. Okay, then I go release it tonight
That would be dope
Home I like playing our Brazil week one. I hope they open up in Brazil. I think the Chiefs chargers
Yeah, that's a good. That's a good one
Stand me from two teams that don't work every home game
For a lot. I go to a lot of them. They got me heavily involved. It's not the right tight end. I like, I like, I like, I
love the tight end from Penn State. You think so? No. The Penn State title reminds me of Gronk. Is that big? Yeah.
Who you got number one all time? Gronk? Yes. Over Gronk? I like that.
I like that.
Know what? If you took Gwalt, I think those were the top ones.
Look, I know you played with Tony, but man, them boys special.
They were, especially Kelsey.
Kelsey was more like a wire receiver, you know what I'm saying? He twitchy.
Tony just had them hands. Yeah. But he don't look like he's running in the mud though.
He told me I ain't catching the crowd. I say because I wasn't in the crowd.
You could not run nobody. You always gonna be in the crowd. I was ahead of the crowd.
Hell to the crowd.
They get a quarter. I can, they lost your Davias Ward.
Pick his in.
Let's see.
It's good.
I'm dressed perfect.
Hey, where's the goddamn snow?
Oh man.
Steve McMichael, Hall of Famer on that, that bear, the 85 Bears team.
That was the one. Mongo. He played on that, he played Fame, all done that. That bear, the 85 Bears team.
That was the name.
Mongo.
He played on that, he played on that too, you know?
Yep.
Who we got?
Who's taking? Who we got? Come on, Commish. Commish, give it a spin. Yeah, it is.
Yeah, it's Austin Loveland.
Yeah, it's Austin Loveland.
Yeah, it's Austin Loveland.
Yeah, it's Austin Loveland.
Yeah, it's Austin Loveland.
Yeah, it's Austin Loveland.
Yeah, it's Austin Loveland.
Yeah, it's Austin Loveland.
Yeah, it's Austin Loveland.
Yeah, it's Austin Loveland.
Yeah, it's Austin Loveland.
Yeah, it's Austin Loveland.
Yeah, it's Austin Loveland.
Yeah, it's Austin Loveland.
Yeah, it's Austin Loveland.
Yeah, it's Austin Loveland.
Yeah, it's Austin Loveland.
Yeah, it's Austin Loveland.
Yeah, it's Austin Loveland. Yeah, it's Austin Loveland. Yeah, it's Austin Loveland. Yeah, it's Austin Loveland. Yeah, it's Austin Loveland. I'm just giving this to you.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I'm in Boston, Loveland, Michigan.
Tight end.
Yeah.
Michigan.
I like long.
I like Warren from Penn State. Great hands. great run after the catch. Normally the Penn State Tigers, the
one thing they can do is block. Yeah. Yeah, I don't.
I'm trying to see the main highlights, man.
Oh, here we go.
Tyler Eifert.
Well, we take a tight end with the number 10 overall.
Yeah.
Man, look, I'm not surprised that he went in the first round.
I'm surprised that he went in front of Warren.
That point.
For me, I thought Warren, the games that I watched him, high point the ball, tremendous
run after the catch, can't block, lined him up in the slot.
Yeah.
Oh, they trying to use that.
Here we go.
Let's see what he, let's see what he, oh they got him.
Oh run the wheel well on him. I like this nice high point. Okay. Nice high point.
Okay. I want to see some run blocking. So he's more of an F tight end, he's more of a Tiger tight end.
He blocks a little bit.
Oh nice release.
He's too light.
Oh he's not blocking that, not at that side.
He's more of a Travis Kelso.
There you go, exactly.
Mr. and Mr.
He's more of an F, yeah yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah.
You put him in motion, make him the weak side, the Tiger tight end, you make him the weak
side.
I'm not putting him at the point of attack.
Yeah, you don't ask him to block too many times.
Well, they already got Cole Comet though.
Cole, I know.
I guess they want to go to double tight set.
Two tights, two tights, I mean two tights and two wide outs.
One running back.
I like it.
I like it.
I like the pick.
I like Tyler Warren a little bit.
That's it.
He can do a little bit more than what I just saw.
I'm not surprised that he went in the first round.
I'm surprised that he went over Tyler Warren.
Yeah, for sure.
I believe that, yes.
All right, linebacker.
Linebacker.
That's the linebacker, right?
Number three?
Oh.
13, okay.
He nice. Oh, yeah
Look the one thing Georgia over the last four or five years to put out of some live backers
linebackers
D line. Yep every time
And they they they missing a long time. He got that from Nick
If you go look at no one look at Nick what Nick put out. Yeah
I'm D line with the blind back. Yeah
Yeah, yeah, he's Russian but up
What's the uh, what's the uh, uh
The edge from a Philly
Last year ash
I like it. You gotta, you gotta look.
Now in the league, because everybody playing so much space, these guys, these guys are
undersized now at the edge, because you gotta bend the edge, you gotta do it because you're playing in so much space these guys these guys are undersized now at the edge because you got to bend the edge you got to do it because you're playing in so
much space exactly it's not like when we played man no no no no and the 250 days
look look look in the Super Bowl and to run the ball like ten times I think
that would have helped Patrick in that offensive line for sure just hand it off
yeah look the thing is that when they played cover two,
they played every snap was cover two except one. You got to run somebody out of cover two. You
can't throw them out of it. 100%. Because they got a light box. But because they knew Kansas City
would get impatient and Kansas City hadn't shown the propensity to run the football all year,
you play right in the Phillies' hand. And now when they got the lead on you,
they know you're going to get impatient. And now when they got the lead on you,
they know you're gonna get impatient.
And I was shocked Andy Reid normally gets in his bag
and can make some adjustments.
I was surprised by the lack of adjustments he made.
But think about this, even with adjustments,
there's nothing you can do for it
just to that type of defense
that's coming at you that kind of way.
There's not, even with the quick game,
they were still in the backfield.
If you were, let's say,
if you were gonna make make adjustments you know what
begin to include that you know if you play action got to get away from five
step drop he couldn't do three-step drop
i think they go williams as i got a run the ball
i think they go williams
you got will johnson
i think they go williams
age I bet they go Williams edge
Then they release Linda for if Linda Florence deal that he's still in San Frans, that's giving Linda Floyd
Got a bathroom too much water too much water
Go ahead go ahead I think they're gonna take they need a corner back to Davias Ward left he's in uh he's an indie now
I like I think they take a corner for no no no the 49ers need a corner but they might go edge. They like the Georgia kids.
Yeah he's an Indian out there. That's right. But the guy that's been
rising up the draft board is that edge from from Georgia. Number 13 Williams and
you know him with Bosa and Leonard Floyd. Cause they gotta get back to-
Look, Robert Sala is back as a defensive coordinator.
He's back over there?
That's my guy.
He loves to attack the quarterback.
I thought he was with the Green Bay staff.
He left the Green Bay staff?
No, no, no, no.
He went to Green Bay when he left the Jets.
Yeah.
No, he went to DC at uh-
Look at them. Yeah what's your door?
It's only one place for him to go.
Pittsburgh.
Everybody else got quarterback locked in.
I like that for him though.
You get those two receivers that they got in Pittsburgh.
You got Mike Tumlin.
You got that running, the running back.
They got defense.
Jay LaWard is running back now.
Yeah.
You know, not just the guy from San Francisco.
But I don't know if Jay LaWard can be every down fact. Look at the guy. The guy from San Francisco.
But I don't know if Jaylen Ward can be every down fact.
No, no, no, no, no.
He's at the, he's at the Chargers, my G.
Yep.
What?
Yeah.
What?
They got the next pick right?
They do.
Woof.
Woof.
So what do you do with Dak?
If you take your door, what do you do with Dak?
Dak, you go play.
Don't worry about who's behind you.
You just do what you're supposed to do, and you can keep on the bitch.
You can keep him behind you.
I like, but I like.
I don't like him in that they take it they take
it a defensive player I know the 49ers taking the defense plate. You like Will
Johnson I like the edge.
Here we go. Who the 49ers?
Who they got?
Who they took?
They took Williams. No, they took Williams.
No, they took Williams.
The edge from Georgia.
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
Look, it's hard to go wrong taking somebody in that front center from the UGA.
Kirby doesn't... Who needs a quarterback?
The Niners don't need a quarterback.
They got Purdy.
And they just paid him.
Oh, they need a quarterback.
They do. The Niners don't need a quarterback, they got Purdy. And they just paid him.
Oh, they need a quarterback, they do?
What did they say?
You ain't got to hold up long.
Woo.
Cowboys on the clock.
Cowboys select Shadour Sanders.
No.
The old lineman. Oh yeah. I'm not surprised. I'm not surprised.
They need online. Zach Martin left.
Booker, they take Alabama's tackle.
What? You need to be able to run the football
or you need to be able to protect that.
That's a good pick.
That's a good pick.
Now all we need is for Jerry to make a splash
and trade for Tyreek Hill.
Booker.
Alabama.
He was what?
He was the second rated tackle behind Campbell.
Oh, that's nice.
Really nice at the point of attack.
Give me that.
Oh, he's sudden. He'll strike you down. Yeah
Good hands boy. That's what I saw. Hey, look at Mr. Bianca. Wax on, wax off.
Oh man, he's sudden.
Huh? That's dope.
They're taking Booker.
Is it?
No, they're not taking the linebacker.
I bet you they take one.
Because you remember our over street got hurt.
And they were small at the linebacker position too.
They were real small
Michael Williams and Cowboys pickers in we're about to find out
Shador no, they but like linebacker from Alabama He'll take a kicker.
They got the best kicker football on one of them.
Guard, that's what they're taking.
Cotton.
What are they taking?
It is it the Bamar Guard?
Alabama Tyler Booker.
Tyler Booker.
Okay.
Booker.
You see.
That's a good one.
They're here with Tyler Smith. Tyler Smith. They're probably with Tyler Smith.
Tyler Smith.
They'll probably kick Tyler Smith back out left tackle.
That'll be a good move.
And then put him at guard.
To replace Zack.
Yep.
That's dope.
Alabama going to have some draft picks now.
What they Alabama going to do now?
Alabama going to have some draft picks now.
Alabama going to have some draft picks now.
Alabama going to have some draft picks now.
Alabama going to have some draft picks now.
Alabama going to have some draft picks now.
Alabama going to have some draft picks now.
Alabama going to have some draft picks now.
Alabama going to have some draft picks now. Alabama going to have some draft picks now. Alabama going to have some draft picks now. Alabama going to have some draft picks now. Alabama going to have some draft picks now.
What they Alabama going to do now?
Alabama going to have some draft picks now.
Alabama George.
Yeah man.
That FEC?
Big boy is safe too, check him out.
Yeah.
Because think about it.
Will Campbell went for the Missouri OT.
I don't for the Missouri OT
Who's the Missouri? Oh, he went like seven
There he is, I like Georgia guy
You gonna pick him so 12 so so of the top 12 picks from the SEC. Offensive lineman? Two offensive lineman.
Yeah. So we got three offensive lineman and an edge rusher.
What is the offense going? What you guys need? I mean,
oh my goodness. A little bit of everything. Defense.
Well you're trying to move Jalen Ramsey. Yes.
If you move Jalen Ramsey, you're probably gonna need somebody to replace it.
Do you take Will Howard? I'm trying to think. I'm trying to understand. Where you think
Miami should go? Corner? That's what I'm saying. Yeah. You like the corner from Michigan? It's nice.
I don't understand why they trying to move Ramsey.
Spryce tag. That's what I was thinking.
What the production is still there?
Is it? You played a lot of money for tour, you played a lot of money for Tyreek, you play a lot of money for Waddle.
So the odd man out is your best cover man?
Yeah man.
What are the dolphins taking? Dolphins. What do dolphins mean? Corridor linebacker, dolphins, what are the dolphins taking? Down the clock,
everything. Unfortunately you can't get one of everything, you get one of
something.
Come on Miami, don't mess up, don't mess up.
What?
You gotta keep it up there for the time being.
I'll put a show so we can give you the handle, okay?
Okay.
Wanna give him one?
Uh huh.
The one behind me.
Huh?
Nah, we don't wanna start that.
We don't wanna start that. I'm like now I'm interested what where are the Dolphins
going Ocho? I have no idea. Well we know they don't need a wide receiver. No we got to go
defense we got to go defense they don't need a receiver obviously no they don't
need a quarterback they could go offensive line yeah keep two up right
you never know you got to replace Jalen Ramsey being at you on the train
Well, I'm him him being on the trade block. So I'm curious. Will Howard was probably he was that he is the highest graded corner
Yes, sir for Michigan. Well, no, look, he's a second highest graded corner. It was for a was the highest graded corner. Okay, so
I would not be surprised
You know if this the dogfish take a corner here because I agree with
you I think they need defense or no lineman yeah you got running back with a
chance you're good there you say most of most is going now hold on what about
Tyler Warren that tight end oh oh that will Johnson okay that's a good one
that's Jalen Milroy right there.
Will Johnson.
It's not on there yet.
Cowboys get, Cowboys got their guy to replace Zach Martin.
You had Zach Martin a staple, a long long time.
What he's in the Johnny Manziel draft 2016, with a lot of people thought they were going
to take Johnny Manziel to take Zach Martin and they get a seven, eight time first team
all-pro, seven, eight time first team All-Pro, seven, eight time Pro Bowl player. Unbelievable career, but as much as they ran the ball,
he was in a lot of collisions.
A lot of who that?
Zack Martin.
You know, he retired.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So you get somebody to replace him,
you bumped Tyler Smith probably back out to left tackle.
Okay.
You keep Terrence still at right tackle.
You run the football a little more.
You got Javontae Williams. now you got somebody to protect Dak, keep him up right,
hopefully he can stay healthy. You know and I know they not gonna win until Jerry
Jones is up out of that. Well he ain't going nowhere. Well it don't matter who they be.
No time, no time soon. It don't matter. But let me ask you this, what if they're
making trade? Because I told Ocho, I said what if they make a trade cuz I told I told Ocho I said what if they make a trade and they trade for Tyreek?
I
Love Tyreek
But is Tyreek still that difference maker is he still at that place?
He's still at difference maker cannot forget just because one season when tool was out and the number suffered ain't nothing wrong
He's still a he's still a guy absolutely
Absolutely, I Absolutely. Absolutely.
I love the Cheeto, but I don't know if that's the move that Dallas needs. You don't think so?
I don't think so. I don't think that's the move.
For the right price, what's the asking price?
Just take over the contract. It's a trade, right?
Yeah.
Just take over the contract, Frankie.
But I'm saying, what compensation are we giving?
We giving them a third rounder? We giving them a fourth rounder?
Third round. Tyree is about a third round.? We giving him a fourth rounder? Third round.
Tyrese by the third round.
Third round right now.
What you giving up?
Yeah, I ain't giving up nothing.
No hell no.
Second, no way.
Third round.
Third round pick a beat.
What are we talking about?
You not giving up a second rounder
for the still the most dynamic receiver
just because he had one off-season
because his quarterback was hurt?
What are we talking?
I give you a third for him.
I give you a third.
But here's the thing.
And a conditional fifth. I give you a third. But here's the thing. And I can also give you a fifth.
Hold on.
Well, he just had 1,800 the year before last.
I give you a fourth that can turn into a third.
I like that.
I give you a fourth.
Rick, seal your top five or six right now.
You take absolutely top five.
Over Justin Jefferson?
I just say over.
You say a top five. No particular order. I'm going to. You absolutely top five. Over Justin Jefferson? I just say over, you say top five.
No particular order.
I'm gonna give you five.
I think I can give you five better.
Give me five better right now.
Justin Jefferson.
That's one.
Jamar Chase.
That's two.
What's my man with the Rams?
Pooka.
Pooka.
You put Pooka the Cool over Tyreek Hill?
Off of one season?
Now Pooka had two seasons.
Oh two seasons. Two seasons?
What are we talking about?
Give me a minute, keep going.
That's three.
You like Devontae?
Not at this stage.
Okay.
Not at this stage.
Talk to me.
Not at this stage.
AJ Brown?
Not at...
No.
Tyler McClory?
Who you like?
We are talking about Tyree Hill let's come
on now what are we doing Nico Harris Nico Collins Nico college no yeah please
don't miss it Nico Harrison yeah come on now on the Dolphins picker in.
Woo! Okay.
DT.
They went defense.
Michigan, Grant.
Wait, where is he from?
Michigan.
Another Michigan?
Ben Graham was the...
I like... I thought they would go Will Johnson.
I thought they'd go corner because you know, the situation with Jalen Ramsey, but I like
this thing.
You know, they are what you call them left.
The big what's his name?
We went back to the Cardinals.
Oh, Kaleo's.
Kaleo's.
Kaleo's.
Yeah, yesaleos. Kaleos. Kaleos. Yeah. Yes, Kaleos.
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Oh, quick.
Oh, a nice little move.
Look like Big Sam Adams with that quick first step. You know about Sam Adams.
Quick, six-ten.
Big Sam Adams playing with me over in Cincinnati.
Sway, he had the quickest feet, boy.
Yeah, I don't even.
He swayed.
Boy, I got the quickest first step ever.
Oh, big, oh oh oh oh oh he powerful inside he quick nice post. Oh no you better not go catch him.
You better not go catch him., you can run a little bit.
Oh my god.
A lot a bit.
Man, you better not go in the meeting room on Monday.
You let a detacker run you down?
Hold on.
That's all right.
That's a pattern.
Hold on.
At 331 at that.
Yes.
Oh my goodness.
Warren. That's a good one. I like that. That's a good one. I love that. So he'll be like a Clark, Dallas Clark. Yes. Remember Dallas Clark? Yes. We had Peyton, Stokely. Yes.
I said that first.
I love that pick. I love that pick for the Colts.
Wow.
Think about it, the quarterback went first
or the quarterback hadn't gone again.
That's wild. quarterback had the quarterback went first or quarterback hadn't gone again that's why the first 14 picks in 24
was offense now you got nine offense five defense
yo yeah yo yeah it's a no-brainer
it's a really good pick a very good pick especially especially Anthony Richardson
very very good pick
the problem is that the guys that's on the
clock right now don't need quarterbacks. So if you didn't go to Cleveland, the
Giants... If he doesn't go nine, nobody else needs a quarterback until 21. But do
the Steelers take it? 100%? Yes, I believe they do absolutely absolutely absolutely but
What nobody you look at you look at all the pigs that was from from 10 to 21
Then nobody need a quarterback everybody does spend big money on a quarterback
New Orleans needed a quarterback. Yes, they did but I thought there are not your future if okay
He doesn't go nine to New Orleans then what okay if he doesn't go 21 of New Orleans, then what? Okay, if he doesn't go 21 to the Steelers, then what?
Oh, Lord. I don't even want to think about that.
He's going to Pittsburgh?
See, I like Warren. I like Warren. I really like Warren.
Same number that Dallas Clark wore, wasn't it?
Yep. Look at that.
Get out here. That's a DB that don't count. Hey I like this for Anthony Richardson because it gives him a security. I hand it to him.
I hand it to him. Get going son. Get going son. That's against Ohio State too. Yes.
He nice. He like a Swiss Army knife at the quarterback.
I mean, tight end position. Did he just throw the ball? Yeah, he left it. Doing some
everything. Who took him to Colts? Yep, I like that pick too. Oh! Six. Nice. Look at him. Off the helmet, Moss. Give me that. Ah.
Nah, yeah. That's Moss all day.
I like it.
I like this baby.
Look, Mo Ali Cox getting a little up on his age now.
I mean, he had a great career, a few undrafted free agents,
came out of VCU as a basketball player.
We know the success basketball players have.
Coming into the NFL, Tony Gonzalez was a basketball player.
Antonio Gates.
Antonio Gates was a basketball player.
Jimmy Graham was a basketball player.
So we know the success that these guys have coming in.
But OK, now let's go.
We need more production at that position.
I like them.
You know what?
And they got some good receivers around him. I like you. Youman, Julia. I do like I do like I do. I like him a lot.
Falcons, what you like? What you what you take it as a fact? Will Johnson. I'll take it. Johnson.
Who you lying back? Lie backer.
I think I think I like I like will to go outside other side of AJ Terrell. I
Like it. That's a good one
Gotta do a request you got to deal with Chris Chris Godwin and Mike Evans. You got a lot of issues
She are she Rashad. She he yeah. Yeah, she's he yeah, bro. Yeah, we are
You got him
Carolina just just took a receiver. Yeah
You got him. Carolina just took a receiver. Yeah. McMillan. They got Leggett.
Yep. Adam Thielen.
You taking a corner or you taking a linebacker?
Corner. I would, too.
Taking a corner.
Jeff O'Coodle. What you like in your pick here?
Let's go, baby.
Atlanta, let me see. You got Pinnix.
Jeff O'Coodle is in there. Jeff O'Coodle is gone, right? Huh? Jeff O'Coodle left at Lavin, didn't he? Pinnix, Jeff Okuda is in there.
Jeff Okuda is gone, right?
Huh?
Jeff Okuda left at Lavin, didn't he?
Who is that?
Jeff Okuda, the DB.
I don't know, I'm not familiar with you, yo.
I like, uh, I definitely think the Falcons should go defense.
Yeah, scoring points wasn't their issue last year. No, stopping people.
Stopping people was.
Just like my you-know-who.
Who they?
Oh!
I like this.
Oh Joe, what you would have did if you had Joe Barrow as your quarterback?
Same thing I did with Carson.
Carson was a beast.
Had some fun.
You got to think, they passed the ball like crazy today, bruh.
Like crazy.
Yeah, that's different.
Think, doing our era.
What's going on back when you played?
Rudy Johnson.
Remember Rudy from Auburn?
Of course I remember Rudy.
Yeah, old Rudy.
Then we had Cedric Benson. When I first got there, it was Corey Dillon was there. Corey Dillon, that Of course I remember Rudy. Yeah, old Rudy. Then we had Cedric Benson.
When I first got there, Corey Dillon was there.
Corey Dillon, that's who I was there for.
Yeah, and I was a rookie.
And then he went to New England after that, right?
Yeah.
Ran the ball.
Boy, do I.
Do I.
I hate it.
Boy, that.
Wait, who y'all?
Clint Hortons, oh my goodness.
Who y'all had that running back where you were?
Yeah, Priest.
Priest Hortons, yeah.
And they didn't be backing down with y'all with Larry Johnson.
That's right.
That's right.
Boy, Priest was so smooth.
Hey, him and Amon Green got the prettiest running style, bro.
Oh my god.
Priest was with me at Baltimore when I first got to Baltimore.
That's right.
He was a backup to Jamal Lewis.
Jamal Lewis, that's right.
Got Jamal with them.
Yeah.
And I say, man, people don't realize how good Priest is.
And Priest backed up Ricky Williams at UT, made that big play in the Big 12 Championship
game.
Yeah.
Priest was on the basketball team.
He was.
He went on the basketball team.
And again, and again, got with the Chiefs, Al Saunders, Dick Vermille, brought that
greatest show on turf offense, and he took on.
Went crazy.
What he black marshall fought?
March exactly.
Ah.
That's crazy.
The priest.
Ray Lewis.
Nobody in this draft.
Not in this draft.
Not in this one.
Oh.
That's a bad one.
Oh, man.
That's a bad one.
That's a bad one.
That's a bad one.
That's a bad one.
That's a bad one.
That's a bad one.
That's a bad one.
That's a bad one. That's a bad one. That's a bad one. That's a bad one. That's a bad one. Ray Lewis. Nobody in this draft.
Not in this draft.
Not in this one.
Oh.
Oh, man.
Oh, man.
Dante, appreciate you stopping by, bro.
Thank you, bro.
All the best, man.
Likewise, man.
Good to see you.
Let's go. All the best man. I'll see you that. Good to see you.
Hey, you ready? Okay, you getting mic'd up.
Look at this. There's your best players.
They got Jaylen Walker, Will Johnson,
Amariah Hampton, and Josh Simmons.
You think they take Josh Simmons?
The OT?
Hey, coming to the stage to join us now,
NFL Hall of Famer,
missed one snap in his whole career.
Slim Chil, Joe Thomas.
What's up?
I just came home today.
What?
Come on.
Whatever you want to say to that, bro.
Joe, you look good, baby.
You guys looking good, man.
But let me ask, you played, how much did you play at when you played?
About 320 320 what yeah, I had a concerted effort. You say once I'm done with football. I'm going down to what number?
250 when I was 18. I was 250. That's right. That's where I want to get to when I'm tired
So how long did it take you to get 70 pounds off? Six months. So what did you do?
You changed your diet?
Exercise?
Yeah, so I stopped eating all carbs.
Okay.
I really got into swimming.
Okay.
Because swimming's really hard.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, very.
Especially when you're big, honed, big guy.
I was fighting drowning the whole time.
It's pretty hard.
It is.
So when you exert yourself like that,
I was just conscious of what I ate.
But also, I had to eat a lot to be able to be 320, right?
So you're not so in other words, you're really not a natural you're a big guy, but not a
Big guy big by normal humanity standards
NFL lineman standards, I was small. I had to eat myself into that body
How hard is it for you to stay at this size based on the structure of the food?
It's not too bad.
The only time it's really challenging
is if I close my eyes and still think
I'm a lineman when I pull myself up to the kitchen table
and I got like five plates.
Yeah, but I just got to make sure that's like once a month.
You know, I just got to make sure it's not every day.
Your team, the Cleveland Browns, they trade Pick up a extra pick up a couple draft pig. Yeah, even a first round of next year. You like the move. So
From a mathematical standpoint, you know, you look at the the draft charts like the trade charts, right?
It was a really good trade for yes, but you lost out on trash. That's not her that hurts
Yeah, because you know, he's such a locker room guy.
He's a culture guy.
He loves the game.
You hope he'd be there for 15 years
and be that leader in that locker room.
Yes.
You need.
Right.
And, shit, he could play two positions.
Yes.
He could play receiver.
Two for the price of one.
Two for the price of one.
You can't pay him two contracts.
Right.
Everybody needs more receivers.
Everybody needs more corners.
Yes.
I would have liked him.
But I still think I like the guy they got to be able to pair
with Miles Garrett.
Yeah.
The pick is in for the Falcons.
Look like they're going with the edge guy from Georgia.
Is it a linebacker?
Yeah linebacker.
You did say linebacker.
I thought that, look, we thought they were going to go defense.
Will Johnson or linebacker hometown kid played at University of Georgia,
Salisbury, North Carolina.
Right on, right it on.
I like that suit.
What do we think about that drip?
That's nice.
I like it.
It's looking good.
The guys get dressing, dressing is a thing now.
It is.
When I came with me a guy's coming with sweat
You know, yeah, it was guys coming in with Hermes bags go yard
I didn't want to be thinking about that at all when we traveled
Yeah, the same red polo and khaki pants every time
Think about it. Don't want to worry about you saved a lot of money doing a lot of money
Yeah, all right. The tailors didn't like me very much. You like to speak you like to speak for the Falcons Joe Didn't have to think about it. Didn't want to worry about it. No, you saved a lot of money doing it. Saved a lot of money, yeah.
The tailors didn't like me very much.
You like his pick?
You like his pick for the Falcons, Joe?
I think it's good.
Adding edge pressure, a guy that's flexible,
that you can do a lot of things.
As a defensive corner, you like those guys
that you can fit all over the place.
You can build little packages for him
to be able to get after the quarterback,
drop into coverage if you want him
to be able to get into some of those zone drops
And obviously he's a dude. Oh, yeah, the one thing about Georgia if you look at them They're gonna have some edge rushes linebackers and D tackles. Oh, yeah
Kirby took a page out of Nick Sabre book cuz you know in Alabama he had DT edge of linebacker
You got to win up front. You got to have a solid front seven. Look at it. Look at the close
Look at that speed right there
They must have a good strength coach because all them dudes are huge fast strong are they look at that. You know what help
They like they like the linebacker six foot six one two thirty two forty five if high as they go Yeah able to go sideline. Yeah, I have made they go hunting
Those guys go hunting. Oh yeah, he knows it. He's pumped. Hometown guy. Yeah, yeah.
He's from North Carolina, but think about it. Athens is an hour away. So he brought the same
house, saved some money. How far is it? Athens is about, from where he practices, probably 30 minutes, 40 minutes.
He's got to do nothing.
Right.
Cause they practice up at Floury Bridge.
Right.
Beautiful.
I like this pick.
I like this pick.
You know, you got a quarterback, they got good receivers, they got Kyle
pissing tight in. Kyle need to bounce back. Yeah. He had that great rookie season, Joe. He needs to bounce back. He needs to put some seasons together now.
Yeah, I think for him he needs just consistency of the quarterback play, right? Right. You know what it's like if you got a different
quarterback in there, it just takes some time to be able to build that rapport there have been a few there have been a few receivers that have been able to
manage the quarterback carousel before a tight end like yeah for a tight end like
like Pitts he needs to consistency at that position getting hurt as well
messing up ACL yeah then help you right what you think about the Cardinals what
the Cardinals go what does the Cardinals need oh that's a good question who is it
he like Will Johnson.
Quarterback from Michigan.
We'll see.
I don't know.
I think that'd be a pretty good pick.
Once you start getting into the middle rounds,
if you're not targeting a quarterback,
you take the best available.
Take the best available player.
Pick a guy based on what you need.
You just pick football players.
That's where it gets hard at.
I know.
You know what happens?
You end up picking the
best available player. Is it Murphy? Some guy like comes behind him and he's a
seven-time All-Pro. If I'd have known that I would have taken it.
Well they're standing up. Pick is in. There we go. They're not wasting any time. And what we're looking like with a pig.
Will Johnson, he said, here, what's your name?
Amir says Will Johnson. I told I told I told him that first. Amir's Tridamas.
I told him that first joke.
All right. You're cheating.
Well, as what we hear.
Here's the thing, we're talking to Dante, I say look, and everybody was saying this, if Chidor doesn't go to New Orleans at 9, nobody else until they get to
21 needs a quarterback.
So you could see a precipitous fall.
But I tell people all the time, Joe, it's not how high you go,
it's where you go. Where you go is more important than going high. And I said look, I know it's your
dream, oh I want to go number one, I want to go this, but you go to the wrong situation.
Yeah. You'll be in trouble. Well the other thing is you know, in your mind you're like I want to
make the most money, I want to be the drafted highest. It's such a small amount of difference
at this part of the draft and plus as a
quarterback you make your money on your second deal anyway so go to the best
situation even if it's in the second round right where they can build
everybody your money is in your second contract now so it's not how much money
how long you make money yeah you make money for four years before you could make money for 14. That's right. Go! Up! Up! Up!
What?
Wow.
I'm going to bring some out.
I'll bring it out.
Wow.
In my bag.
Detail.
That's cool.
I got my own beef?
Yeah, I got from old beef.
I raised my own cattle.
I brought some sticks for you guys.
Don't worry.
All right.
Coming out later.
All right.
Appreciate it.
I got a hat for you. I know it's your style, too. Don't worry. It's coming out later. I appreciate it. I got a hat for you.
I know it's your style too.
Don't worry.
Yeah.
Oh, but I'll send you some free stuff.
Appreciate that.
What'd you call them?
A detactable.
Oh, yes.
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