Club Shay Shay - Nightcap - Hour 2: Odell Beckham to Dolphins, Lakers Fire Darvin Ham, Travis Hunter's future

Episode Date: May 5, 2024

Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson discuss the Miami Dolphins adding Odell Beckham, the Lakers moving on from Darvin Ham & debate whether Travis Hunter is a WR or DB at the next level. 03:30 - OBJ signs to Dolphins23:27 - Lakers fired Darvin Ham33:31 - Lonzo Ball Player option38:36 - Cowboy fans at Parsons43:25 - Travis Hunter WR or CB51:25 - Q and Ayyyy01:14:20 - Much More Nightcap! (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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and deposit restrictions, terms, and responsible gaming resources. Okay. All right. Back to the show. Back to the show. Back to the show. Woo-hoo-hoo!

All right, Ocho. Huh? We gonna move on. Hopefully, at some point in time, this thing gonna dry down. Die down. We move rap to the top of the genre.

That's something for us to talk about over the next six weeks. See who's going to get involved, who's going to drop. We're going to see what's happening. In other news, wide receiver room in the NFL, more star power for the Miami Dolphins. The team just agreed for a one-year deal with Odell Beckham Jr., adding him to a position group that already features five-time All-Pro Tyreek Hill

and Jalen Waddle, who posted three, since his rookie season, three straight 1,000-yard seasons to start a career. The deal is worth $3 million with incentives that can push the max value to 8.25. Hill and Waddle have been the most productive wide receivers tandem since joining forces in 2022. But no receiver behind those two

has eclipsed 32 catches in either of the past two seasons. Miami reliance on this star duo became apparent late in the season when both Hill and Waddle battled through injuries. an NFL insider reported Chiefs were appealing to wide receiver Odell Beckham Jr. money wasn't right money wasn't right over there with the Miami Dolphins they were probably trying to penny pinch they were trying to penny pinch so what what made more sense to me to me well you get you can get more here down in Miami. Obviously, we have no tax.

And then the offense, I'm not saying we have packed them home, but we do have a quarterback by the name of Tua, who is a Samoan warrior, who is efficient as well when it comes to throwing the ball, as you can look and see what Jalen Waddell and Tyreek have done since they've been with him. You add Odell Beckham, who is still very, very, very good at what he does to that offense, who will probably play in the slot most of the time and will dominate short, intermediate routes.

And on short, intermediate routes, if you watch Odell throughout the years, he can still hit his head off the goalpost from anywhere on the field. Shallow routes, slant routes. He can go deep still. So I'm excited. I'm excited. Now, that offense just got a little bit scary because there's nothing wrong with Odell at all.

Obviously, he played with the Ravens last year. But injuries have robbed him. He's not the same guy, Ocho. He hasn't had a thousand yard season since 2018. But he's not used in a way where he can put up those type of numbers as well. Now, we have to remember that as well. Well, how is he going to do that? I'm not saying he needs to put up a thousand.

I'm saying he's still. Listen, let me say something real quick. And this is what I'll do. Respect everybody. 80% Odell Beckham, even with the injuries, is better than 90% of what we have in the NFL at receiver right now. Do you agree or disagree with me? Wait, you didn't say do you agree or disagree with me.

But here's the thing. He's 80%. But no, because context matters. 80% of Odell as the third option. He's not a third option receiver. It just based on, wait, let me finish. Based on circumstance and injuries that have happened, we are thinking he's a third receiver.

To me, we're getting a low end one or two that we're seeing as a three because of situations that have occurred throughout his career. He ain't nowhere near, he ain't no goddamn three. Shit. No, sir.

Oh, in this situation, he's a three. I see what you're saying, but I'm telling you what he's not. Yes. I'm telling you what he's not because of what he's still... How? So how?

Based on what? What do you base your goal? Knowing what he can do. That's all. Listen. He wasn't in Baltimore. In Baltimore. The plays that he made.

Yes. He wasn't throwing the ball enough to show you that he can still do what I know he can do. Because I know he can do it is what I'm telling you. I'm not saying there's nothing wrong with him. But Ocho, he's the third option. You're not looking at that. You're going in thinking, okay, let's just say for the sake of argument, there's no Tyreek, there's no Jalen Waddle.

Okay. But he's there and there. I Jalen Waddle. Okay. Okay. But he's there. I get what you're saying. I'm just telling you, even if he's a three, he's a three, right? Most of the balls, there's only one ball to go around. Yes. Most of them are going to go to Tyreek. Yes.

And some are going to go to, right. Tyreek. But the few that he will get, he's going to do the most with. Let me say that. Can I do that? Is that okay? Okay. Yes.

Yeah. But, I mean, he had, I mean, the last couple of years, he had, what did he have? He had 500. He had less than 600 last year. I think he had less than 600 with the Rams. He had 300 with the little part of Cleveland. Yes.

No, I'm saying his last year, because remember, he got traded at the deadline. He missed a year. So, you know, that Super Bowl year, he missed a year, and then last year. Yes, sir.

The problem is, Ocho, is that the injuries, we don't get healthier as we get older. He's had the ACL. He's had the broken ankle.

So, to ask and to expect, I know what he once was, but I don't believe he still possessed that. And now he's the third guy in a situation. Yeah. That's what's tough. You know, I'm glad people are thinking like that, including you.

That's a good thing. Because I want, when we go into the season, I want teams that are playing the Dolphins. I want them to view Odell as a goddamn third. I want them to view. I want you to put your goddamn third or second corner. Okay. Wait, let me finish. Let me finish.

I want you to put your second or your third corner on Odell. And when you get cooked every goddamn game, then you get a better understanding. We're going to touch on this again when the season starts, when Odell is out there cooking with Tyreek. Remember the goddamn 2012 Arizona Cardinals cardinals uh-huh remember that now if we see if we get that again this year in miami remember i told you first remember chat remember i told you first goddamn odell tyreek and jaylen waddle will all have a thousand yards just like the goddamn 2012 cardinals yeah but you got a

real wait not 2012 what year was that oh eight or something oh wait i'm sorry i got my damn years all wrong oh joe yes sir in other words you say and put your third so you want them to put their first or second corner on odell and then put the third second and third corner on waddle and tyreek matter of fact it don't matter what number corner you put on either of the three. It don't matter. They're going to get washed anyway. You know where the coverage is going, Ocho. You know who gets the coverage.

It goes Tyreek. It goes Waddle. It goes Waddle. That's how it was when he was. So let me ask you a question. When he was with the Rams, who got the number one corner? Cooper Cup or Odea? Cup.

with the Rams, who got the number one corner? Cooper Cup or Odell? Cup. So when he went to Baltimore, Zay got the number one. Right. So when he goes to Miami, who's going to get the number one corner? One. Yeah. Three. Ten. Ten, yeah. The alien.

The alien. Yeah, I'm not, so I'm not saying Odell can't go be productive, but do I believe he'll ever be what he once was? I do not. Okay. You know what? I love making bets with you because you in the red right now.

No, I'm up. How do you? Okay. I bet you Odell have 1,000 yards this season. Bet. Understand. Do you understand it's a passing league now? Have you seen the Dolphins' offense?

They throw the ball 100 times a game. Yeah. You just said Tyreek is getting double, right? Tyreek's going to get, I think on average, Tyreek probably is going to have 170. Let's just say he has, conservatively, he has 180 targets. That means Jalen Waters is going to have about 153. Now, he's only going to throw 500 times.

So you're going to split the other target. Odell Beckham can do more with less. He can do more with less. He's in a fish. Well, you know what? There was a passing offense with St. Louis as well. I mean, Los Angeles. I'm sorry. But this is the

passing offense. They're going to let that thing rip. I'm telling you now, when they go into games and teams say, you know what? We are taking away Tyreek come hell or high water no matter what. Yeah. Okay. I'm telling you, he's going

to eat now. I'm telling you. I'm telling you that. I want him to have success, but I just don't see the opportunities that's going to be presented to him. I just explained it to you. Yeah, I understand. Okay. Your third option.

17-17 game season, right? Yeah. Hey, Breeson, Breeson, Breeson, what was his name? The third receiver for the Cardinals that year? Yeah, the Card Yeah. Hey, Breeson, Breeson, Breson, what was his name? The third receiver for the Cardinals that year? Yeah, the Cardinals, yeah. Breeson, he was the third option. You know that. He had 1,000 yards. You know that, right?

Yes. Okay. All right. I just want to make sure we're on the same page. Don't turn it either. But here's the thing. When you look at it, you look how – I don't think Fitz got the number of targets that Tyreek did.

And the second option didn't get the number of targets that Waddle did. You see what I'm saying? They were so good. Listen, Odell is so good at the catch. Jalen Waddle is so good at the catch. That's why I keep saying, even when it comes to short and intermediate routes, Odell going to hit his head off the goal post on a shallow. He going to hit his head off the goal post on a slant.

He can steal still to this day because we saw him do it in Baltimore last year. Taking a slant and go to the house. He can still do that. Yes. Even with the injuries. Now I know because of circumstance because of the situation,

you're a little older now, you're coming to the Dolphins, everybody's going to see him as a three. His skill set is not that of a three, even though that's what he is going to be. That's all I'm trying to say. Do you believe he still possess the same capabilities of 2018

prior to him breaking his ankle? You think physically he's that same guy. That would be him at 100%. Right now, even after two ACL injuries, because of his skill set, it's a little better than everyone else's. He's still like 85, 90%. And that is very good.

Ocho, so let me ask you a question. Do you believe Odell is a top 20 receiver right now? As you and I have this conversation, top 20. Top 20? Yes. You got there right. Don't disrespect O like that. Come on now.

Don't do that. Come on. Don't do that. Don't do that. Come on now. Top 20? Come on. Oh, hell.

Time out. Time out. I got to walk off real quick. Hold on. Go ahead. Ted, y'all believe Odell top 20 receivers still right now? Come on now.

Come on, man. Give me a piece. You going to disrespect Odell like that? I'm just asking a conversation. Top 20? I had to walk off, man. Okay, well, guess what?

We can do it right now. Okay, hold on. Let's go. Let's go. Hold on. We can have a conversation right now. Okay. Tyreek.

Is he better than Tyreek? No, keep going. Keep going. Devontae. Puka. Okay. Cooper Cup. CD.

Let's go to the two guys from Philly. Smith, Smitty, and what's the other big receiver name? A.J. Brown. A.J. Brown. Okay. Let's go to the

AFL, Tyreek, Devontae, Jalen. Go Jalen Waddle. You still believe he's better than your... Who we got? Talk to me. The guy from Tennessee. Played with the Texans. D-Hop. D-Hop.

Oh, yeah. D-Hop, that boy. Listen, D-Hop, probably one of the best pass... Excuse me. D-Hop is probably up there with Chris Carter and Larry Fitzgerald as one of the best pass catchers of all time. Mike Evans. Mike Evans. Mike, Mr. Consistency.

Mm-hmm. Okay. What number you on? What you on now? What number you on? Stephon Diggs. Oh, that's my boy. That's my boy.

The guy from The Lions Armond St. Brown Okay Where we at now 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 9, 10, 11, 12 I'm at 12 right now Come on now

You like him better than Brandon Ayoub Oh I like Aiyuk. I like that we got you. What about Debo? Okay, what about Keenan Allen? DK Metcalf? Tank Dale, Nico Collins. Which one you like?

Okay, what about the guy? Hold on. What about the guy at the Jazz? You love the guy at the Jazz. Oh, Garrett Wilson. Garrett Wilson. Okay, where we at now? Where we at? Hold on. Olave.

So right now, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17. We're at 18 right now. Okay, wait, wait, wait. Justin Jefferson, Jamar Chase. I didn't put him in there yet. Right, right.

Oh, you was waiting on purpose? I did. I did because I was waiting on you to say, well, he better than that one. Okay, so now I get JJ. Now I get Jamar Chase. Okay, what about your guy at Pittsburgh, George Pickens? Oh, I like George. That's my dog.

So now we're at 21. That's Pick. So we're at Pickens. Oh, I like George. That's my dog. So now we're at 21. That's Pick. So we at Pickens. Okay. Okay. What about you guys at Baltimore that you raved about last year? Was it Zay Flowers?

Zay Flowers. Zay. That's 22. We're at 22 right now. Okay. All right. Stop right there. Stop where you at.

Okay. We have 22 players, right? Yes. Think about the opportunities these 22 players are afforded to be in that top 22 all i ask you i ask you i say did you hear what i said oh no that's not what the question was i said oh cho do you believe oh as we sit here and have this conversation yes sir obj is a top 20 receiver. You got up and walked off. I just put 22 guys, and I didn't put Tank Dale, and I didn't put Nico Collins in there.

I did not put Amari Cooper in that list. That's 24-25. I forgot about Coop. I know you did, but I didn't put him in. I didn't put Pittman up in the ending. I didn't put him in there. I didn't put Drake London in there. So I'm just asking you.

DJ Marr, I didn't put him in there. Hey, you know what? Honestly, an 80% Odell, even an 80% Odell. That's not what you said. That was not the question.

Chat, y'all heard? Chat, stay with me. Stay with me now. That's not what you said. That was not the question. Chat, y'all heard? Chat, stay with me. Stay with me now. That's not what you said. Chat, you heard me. I said, Ocho, if you and I have a conversation, do you believe Odell is a top 20 receiver as we sit here? You say, do I believe?

And I got to walk up. I can't believe you said that. Hey, you know what? I don't think. You know what? I think. You know what? Then you came back. Then you came back and did this. I can't think... You know what? I think... You know what? This is... Then you came back.

Then you came back and did this. I can't believe you said that. We have forgotten how good and transcending Odell was with the fact that we're not... Yes!

I've been saying yes! Yes! We have really forgotten. I don't forget nothing. I didn't mention Terry McLaurin. I didn't mention McLaurin. Or Jahan Dotson, yeah. Okay. All right, go ahead. All right, you're right.

You're right. All right. I'm going to let you have that one. I'm going to let you have that one. I'm not saying to O'Neal. I guarantee you when the numbers look different this year in Miami and he have 1,000-something yards along with Tyreek and Daniel Waddle,

remember I said it first. I want him to. And you know, you love all those young receivers in Green Bay, especially Tristan Watson. Oh, my God. I got to walk off again. Oh, you were talking about bad young boy, bad young boy, them young boy.

Hey, that trio in Green Bay? Yes. Oh, them boys so nice, man. Oh, and I didn't put your other guy. I didn't put T. I didn't put T. Higgins. Oh, hey. Hey, I don't like...

See, I don't like when you break shit down like that, man. Now you got my back against the wall, man. Hey, I don't like, see, I don't like when you break shit down like that, man. Because now you got my back against the wall, man. Hey, golly. But that's what I'm saying. These guys, I mean, the league, I mean, because, like you said, it's a passing league. These guys, all these seven-on-seven caps, all these guys are technically signed can run the round, Socho. You remember when you first, when you got in the league, it was only a handful of guys. Not all these guys are technically signed can run the routes Ocho you remember when you first when you got in the league it was only a handful of guys not all

these guys shaking people up hey can I tell you something yes all these guys that's in the league right now running routes yeah ain't none of them still run routes like me Devontae Devontae of all those guys Devontae Devontae of all those guys

Devontae and Kenan Kenan Allen I think Devontae and Kenan Allen Of the group that we named Are your best rivals Cooper Oh yeah Listen But what I would love to see

I would love to see because I'm not saying He's a product of the system. And what McVay does, because we've seen Puka Nakua come in and do the same stuff as far as numbers. I would love to see outside of that scheme. Right. Can you do it off the muscle like a Keenan Allen? Listen, we're going to line you up like Marvin Harrison or like Jimmy Smith. We're going to put you on the right side of the ball. And we we're going to line you up like Marvin Harrison or like Jimmy Smith. We're going to put you

on the right side of the ball and we ain't going to move you. Leave your ass there. Hey, we ain't going to put you in motion. We're not going to condense your split. We want you to just get open. First down, second down, third down. No matter what.

Yeah. But again, Hooper Cup, oh man, he's a fucking magician. Shit, hell, Hunter Renfro is a goddamn magician. Yeah. You know, I mean, just oh, man, brilliant.

The receiving core, the tight end core, these guys are getting better. They understand they have to be better because it's more of a passing league, and the more passing you can catch, and the more you can help the offense, especially from a tight end standpoint, the better you are. Guys are not, look,

the likelihood, there are a handful of guys. You get George Kittle. George Kittle is the most complete tight end standpoint, the better you are. Guys are not, look, the likelihood, there are a handful of guys. You get George Kittle. George Kittle is the most complete tight end. Because he can block really well. Block really well. He's like a grump. But you see more guys

like Kelsey. You see Laporta. You see Hawkinson. You see the Mark Andrews, the Likelys. Those guys, that's where we're headed. Right. That's where we're headed. That's where

we're headed. Well, ain't headed. We're already there now. But look, I just want OBJ to stay healthy. He will. I'm helping him find a place here. I'm going to be Odell's nutritionist. We

talked a little bit. We sat down. We're going to have a meeting tomorrow. Me and Odell, we're going to sit down. We're going to have a meet. We're going to have a meet tomorrow. Me and Odell, we're going to sit down. We're going to talk. We're going to come up with a game plan to ensure that he can play not just a 17-game season,

but he can play the playoffs after that. So I'm mapping everything out. Matter of fact, that's what I was doing before the show while I was watching the fight. I was getting everything

together for O. And I'm finding my place. I'm his realtor. I'm a nutritionist. And. And I'm finding my place. I'm his realtor. I'm a nutritionist. And I'm going to help him. No, Rell is realtor. Huh? Rell is realtor. No, I work for Rell. You know I got my real estate license, right?

Man, you ain't even got a driver's license, let alone... As a matter of fact, you ain't got a fishing license. No, I'm not joking. You didn't know I had my real estate license? When I got with her, she made me take the courses and the classes. I passed license. No, I'm not joking. You didn't know I had my real estate license? When I got with her, she made me take the courses and the classes. I passed the test, so I'm working under her. You got a fishing license?

No, you know, I don't fish. I don't like that water now. I know you ain't got no fishing. Yeah, I ain't like that water. Because, you know, I get seasick. You know you can shore fish, right? Huh? You know you can shore fish, right? Oh, I ain't put my feet in that water.

You don't know what's in that water. No, that means you stand... You don't know what's in that water now. You know, shit I hear in Florida bite you. Oh, Joe. Oh, no. Shore fish means you stand on the banks and fish from the shore.

Listen, the only banks I'm going to stand on is the banks of Jordan. That's it. Man, that's a joke'm going to stand on is the banks of Jordan. That's it. Bad-ass joke in here. The Lakers on Friday just... I bet nobody in the chat caught that one. You got to be old school. Bad-ass joke in here, boy.

The Lakers on Friday just missed Darvin Ham after two seasons in which both ended in losses to the Denver Nuggets. He went to playoffs in both seasons. And last year, he went to the Western Conference Finals. The next time for the Lakers, we did fourth coach in seven seasons. They didn't bring back Luke Walton after his third season. They canned Frank Vogel after the third season,

in a season in which he won the championship and not him. Who do you think they turn to next? If the Lakers are hoping to talk to Ty Lue this offseason, the Clippers may get in the way and block the Lakers from talking to him. I don't, the problem that I have is that you don't accomplish anything by keep changing coaches. You get no continuity. You got a different voice every two to three years.

Yeah. Yeah. Man, how about this? At what point does the organization, at what point do the players take accountability? You know what? It's us. It's us. How about LeBron and AD? How about LeBron

and AD? I love LeBron and AD. I'm sure they're probably going to text me and curse me out for this, but how about when you lose a series instead of underlying and throwing the coach under the bus, how about you you lose a series instead of underlying and throwing the coach under the bus, how about you say, you know what? This is on us. This is on us. What we can't

do and what we can't allow the media to do to allow the weight of the pressure on our failures to go on a head coach. Because he's doing his job. He's not on the court. We're on the court. We're the ones responsible for us going home. That's it.

And it has nothing to do with Darwin Ham. I mean, that's just me. That's how I would have saved my coach. Because, you know, players get coaches fired. You know what that's saying? Players get coaches fired. And we didn't live up to the expectations that the Lakers are used to. Look, what I don't like

is that they gave up an awful lot to get Russell Westbrook. Only two people thought that would work. LeBron James and Anthony Davis. I thought it would work too. I like Russ. No, it's not about like. You got to see how this thing

blends. His style of play doesn't fit? His style of play, their style of play. Nobody, no exec, nobody that's on television that do this. Right. But what you gave up to get him, you gave up all your draft compensation. You gave up depth. You gave up a coup. You gave up a KCP.

You let Caruso walk, who was your best wing defender. I like Caruso. He good on defense. So now, everybody put this on the head coach. I'm sure if you'd asked Darvin Ham, Darvin Ham would say, nah. I mean, first of all, Frank Vogel would have said no. Darvin Ham, damn sure

would have said no. But A.D. and LeBron, A.D. and LeBron, Russell Westbrook was in la because ad and lebron wanted that to happen right and when it blew up it got frank vogel fired and they got no draft compensation because they could have had demar de rosen demar de rosen came on club shea shea and said he would be willing to take a pay cut to play for the team that he grew up watching. But what did they do? Gave up all

their draft capital, all their debt and signed Russ and his camp contract handicapped because it was two years and over $90 million. So let's not put this on Darvin Ham. Is darvin ham ever going to be

thought of as pat riley or phil jackson no no no but this is not on darvin ham see every this is what i know about players great players a lot of players everybody wants to be coached until it's time to actually coach you you gotta you know, you blame somebody else. And I was one of the guys. Somebody else make a mistake because I can take it. Hey, Sharp, you got to do this,

but my guy didn't make the play. I know who he's trying to say. I mean, they are coachable, right? You're not saying they're not coachable, are you? No? Everybody,

I think, but based on their resume and what they've done throughout their careers, You're not saying they're not coachable, are you? No? Everybody. I think based on their resume and what they've done throughout their careers, I would say that there has to be some coaching where they become sponge-like and they actually listen. No? I don't know. Wake up with football every morning and listen to my new podcast, NFL Daily with Greg Rosenthal. Five days a week, you'll get all the latest news, previews, recaps,

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know why, Colleen. Catch the podcast of NFL Daily with Greg Rosenthal every day. Subscribe today and you'll immediately be smarter and funnier than your friends. And who doesn't want that? Listen now on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I just think the thing is that at some point in time,

we can't keep blaming coaches. Coaches, right. When do we blame the organization? When does Rob Palenka... Wait, did I say that right? Rob Palenka? Yeah, Palenka. Yeah, see, I know my shit.

Rob Palenka, you know what?ka. Yeah, see, I know my shit. Rob Palenka, you know what? That's on me. That's on me. How about you get in front of the camera like Jerry Jones just one time? You know what? This is on me. It's okay. Do it. Most general managers are going to do

what the best players suggest they do. Kevin Durant went to Golden State because because Steph, Clay, and Draymond signed off on it. Had they said no, it wouldn't have happened. If AD and LeBron says no, we think we'd be better served with someone other than Russ. Russ wouldn't have been in L.A. Okay. Someone other than Russ, Russ wouldn't have been in L.A.

Okay. Budenhoser, if Giannis didn't want him gone, he wouldn't be gone. If Adrian Griffin, 43 games in the season, he's 30-13, he's gone because that's what Giannis wanted. It's as simple as that. This is not no Shannon Thorpe. No, everybody knows this. Y'all know this in the chat. It's really simple as that. This is not no, no, everybody knows this. Y'all know this in the chat. It's really that simple.

The only guy that couldn't get bullied, two guys couldn't get bullied, Jerry Krause and Pat Riley. Right. Because everybody that Jordan wanted to get, Jerry Krause said no. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Right. That's crazy. Pat Riley says no.

Pat Riley empowered Eric Sposter. Whatever y'all do, we'll lose a draw. Y'all gonna do it with him. Because I ain't coming down. And I ain't firing him. So y'all decide. Figure it out. Yeah, Sposter's a great coach man no true super i'm

talking about super duper super duper stars and continuously making it to the playoffs and getting it done right you know you see well they have an opportunity to get get get uh kairi i i don't know if they had the assets to get it right you have no draft compensation that's the thing now maybe if you'd have kept that draft compensation maybe you have enough pieces now to give Brooklyn

okay we'll give you two three first rounders we'll give you solid players for Kevin Durant and pair him with Anthony Davis or We'll give you solid players for Kevin Durant and pair him with Anthony Davis. Or somebody else, Dane. Now imagine you got Dane. You got first-round picks.

And you got Kuz and some of these other guys. But look, he's gone now. What they should have done is hired Ty Lue from the jump. That's who LeBron really, really wanted, Ty Lue. But they were unwilling to give him the deal. They wanted to make two years and then option. Like, no, I want five years. And unfortunately,

I don't believe Ty Lue's going to win with the Clippers because his best player is always hurt come playoff time. He got balking knees. And he signed Kawhi. They know that's a bad contract,

but they're going into a new building next year and you got to have stars. Right. Stars make you. Put fans in the seats. Yes. What about J.J. Redick? I saw his name in the sheets. Yes. What about J.J. Reddick?

I saw his name in the pot, too. Well, I saw that, that the Charlotte Hornets were interested in J.J. Reddick. Oh, I thought it was the Lakers. Or both. That was the first. I just heard that recently.

I think a lot of people are trying to put two and two together because LeBron is doing a podcast with J.J., and so they're trying to connect the dots. And maybe that recently. I think a lot of people try to put two and two together because LeBron is doing a podcast with JJ. So they're trying to connect. Maybe that is. I didn't really look at it like that. I like it.

I like it. But I just don't think you can just keep hiring coaches. I just don't think that's conducive for winning. Name somebody that they've had how many head coaches in the last seven years for? Yeah. The cycle will continue to repeat itself. Yeah.

So Lonzo Ball had exercises player option for the 2024 season, locking in his salary at $21.4 million for next season. The decision was a no-brainer, given Alonzo hasn't played since January of 2022 due to knee problems. He's undergone serious procedures on the troublesome left knee,

including cartilage transplant in 2023. They can transplant cartilage now? Yeah, we just talked about that the other day. I'm finna go get this on. You can't. Well, he did it. I mean, but he younger.

He younger than you. You want to open up your knee? If they're going to put some cartilage in there and have me up there jumping, put this 40-inch vertical on y'all again. Yeah! 48? 40! Oh, 40!

Now you know you ain't had no 40-inch vertical, now. Come on, now. Don't do that. Don't do that. Don't do that. Three times state champ in the triple jump. Three. All right right show me some footage three times oh joke uh i mean look that was a no-brainer considering you haven't played in all

but by the time the season run around it's gonna be two and a half years since you last played you know if you were to opt out you're not not getting $21 million. So the best thing you could do, hey, let me get this because moving forward he's probably going to be on a one-year deal where he has to prove himself every year. So he proves himself and then he gets to another bag. No, no, no. I can't give you another bag. Based on this history, these leads

might go out at any time. So you don't think if he plays and plays healthy and proves himself throughout the entirety of the year, the chances of getting a new deal, a big bag, is not possible? I don't think so. Not with his injury history. Oh, okay, okay, okay, okay.

I see what you mean. I see what you mean. Yeah. So, I hope he can get back. I hope he can get back. I hope he can get back on the court. I hope he can heal up and show. Plus,

you know, they took Lonzo. They could have got Jason Tatum. They could have got Darren Fox. They could have got Tatum? Yeah, they took Lonzo

ball damn so they they've made some mistakes they've made some mistakes they let Caruso go he was your best wing defender what could they do this year they didn't have anybody that could really stay in front of Jamal Murray. Yeah.

They struggled. They struggled with point guards. Shea, Darren Fox, any point guard that had any level of speed change of direction, it was a problem for them. Bam. Lakers will be back. Cowboy fans are reportedly mad at Michael Parsons wrestling at Sumo Wrestling

in Tokyo. Clips of Michael Parsons taking on a Sumo wrestler during a trip gone viral. The first round obviously didn't go exactly as Parsons. CJ Stroud, Clown Parsons with the too small gesture with the Sumo wrestler mimic as well.

Parsons quickly asked for a rematch. The two-time Pro Bowler came out with extra force in round two. After a few seconds of struggle within the dojo, Parson was able to shove his opponent out of the circle. Parson returned the favor and said, too small. Even posted a clip on Twitter

with a triumphant caption. One thing you won't do is disrespect the lion and think I'm not going to lock in, wrote Parsons also I'm having the Ocho's feed now, I used to watch Sumo, they used to have the summer dojo and the spring

the bar shows when the Sumo wrestlers and they used to have the summer dojo and the spring bar shows when the sumo wrestlers and they try to go, you know, try to get the rank, those zekis. What happened to Ocho's feet? It just went out. I can understand, you know, why people are upset. I can understand you know why people upset it's like bro

you guys went out in the first round and it was in bad fashion and and they were very upset but I just think

if I'm Micah I'm going to be think if I'm Mike, I'm going to be cautious. If I'm going to get hurt, I will get hurt doing football related stuff. But at the end of the day, these kids young, they think they're invincible. And he says,

this is my off season. I can do what it, I can do with it. What I like. I just, I'm just going to be careful. I'm going to be, I'm going to,

if I get hurt, I'm going to be running forties. I'm going to be, I'm going to, if I get hurt, I'm going to be running 40s. I'm going to be training to do football, you know, the bag, bending the edge, running around the tires, things of that nature. But fortunately for him, no injuries.

What do you guys think? Y'all upset it Michael for doing that okay Ocho the internet do you see what happens when you cheat yeah I hear you you back you sure I hear you Oe hey okay okay you can hear me and you know you know my neighbor my neighbor oh they tried to block me off they goddamn wi-fi man yeah they should yeah you know i'm you know i'm using they i'm using they shit i'm i'm using all the hot spot from they shit well speaking of sumo wrestlers about a month agolers, about a month ago, I think about a month ago, the most famous American sumo wrestler, his gift birth name was Chad Rowan.

His sumo name was Akebono. Uh-huh. Okay. He passed away. I used to watch him in Takanahana, Wakana Hana. I used to love sumo wrestling. Yeah, yeah.

It's an interesting sport. Yeah, yeah. They throw the little salt and ward the spirits off. Mm-hmm. Yeah, but why are fans upset about Micah doing sumo wrestling? Because you can get hurt. You can get hurt. If I'm going to get hurt, I'm going to get hurt doing sumo stuff. I mean, not sumo wrestling? Because you can get hurt. If I'm going to get hurt,

I'm going to get hurt doing sumo stuff. I mean, not sumo stuff. Football related stuff. You can't live your life like that, man. You can't live your life. Micah's young. He's enjoying himself. It's the off season.

He's training right now even though he is in Tokyo. This is a time you sort of gradually build yourself back up to getting in the playing shape he's training right now, even though he is in Tokyo, this is the time you sort of, you gradually build yourself back up to getting in the plan shape or as far as I'm concerned, like we're in May now,

you get yourself into OTA shape. So, you know, doing a little sumo stuff. You're probably going to come to OTAs because he ain't got no contract. Oh, that's right, that's right. He probably let Oshiro up to you. Yeah. But you know he working though.

You know he working. Oh, yeah. I'm not worried about that. Yeah, but that's I think that's neither here nor there. Just having some fun enjoying the culture out there

while you're in Tokyo. And he wrestled too. He wrestled in high school. Yeah, in high school. So, it's neither here nor there. I think he'll be fine. I enjoyed it. The video was cool. Yeah, in high school. So, just need to hear another. I think he'll be fine.

I enjoyed it. The video was cool. It was cool as hell to see that. Ocho, your tweet went viral earlier today. Travis Hunter, someone said highlights. Talents of the cornerback. And he said, I want to watch the video and tell me a straight face that Travis Hunter is a wide receiver

at the next level. Yeah. Yes, sir. He's a wide receiver at the next level. You're showing what we call instinct, film study. Clay, he's a two-way player. He's not going to play two ways in NFL, not to start. I have a question. Yes. What did Champ Bailey do when he came in the NFL? Not immediately. I mean, he had a few plays. Okay, stay with me now. He did it, though.

What did Charles Woodson do when he came in the NFL? He had a few plays. Okay. Even Deion had a few plays. Deion, what did he do? Yeah. He had more of those plays when he was in Dallas than he had anywhere else.

And then, eventually, he was straight. Charles got no more plays offensively. Right, right, right, right, right, right. It's just too hard, Ochoa. It is too hard, especially at the highest level. But again, to me, I just didn't like the fact that we're saying, oh, he's a DB and he can't play receiver when he's very good at receiver as well.

He's a two-way player. And what we saw in those clips that the guy, Clay, Clay, I'm sure you're probably going to see this. What we saw in those clips that the guy, Clay, Clay, I'm sure you're probably going to see this. What we saw in those clips is film study and a person with a very, very, very high, high IQ when it comes to watching film and knowing what's coming because of that film study. He's a ball hawk and he's good at what he does on both sides of the ball and again we can we can show clips of travis hunter playing receiver as well and showing he is elite at that position as well so it all it all depends on what he wants to play or what he's more comfortable with as far as when he goes to the next level the fact that he's able to do both is at a pretty

damn high level i think it's really good i I think for me, I think he's better suited to play defensive back. I watched him. It's not like, he doesn't get off the ball. Ocho, he can't get off press. He's just using athleticism. At this point in time,

if you can't get off press, you ain't going to the next level to learn how to get off press. You better learn how to do that before you get there. It has to already be installed and you got to work on it in the offseason.

Yeah. But listen, those are things in you. You got to work on it in the offseason. Yeah. But listen, those are things that you can fix because he's so agile. He's so quick. His quick twitch fibers are really good. So you get him down here with somebody like Goldfee Global or get him out here with some people out here like Receiver Factory, man, they get that together in about two, three months. He'd be out there slicing and dicing that.

I think, Ocho, I think me personally, I think he's gotten away with receiver just on athleticism. Right, right, right, right. I think because, like you said, his instincts are better at corner. Yeah, very. What he has, you can't teach that. No, no, no. Not gold feet, not sweet feet, not

any kind of feet. What he has, the way he can play two by one, and the way he can cover two, he can fool you and then sink and make the pick. You can't teach that, Ocho. That's

God-given. God gave him that ability. Yeah, you're right. You can work with people and they get you to understand the nuances. But most people that can get off press, they were good. It's just the little technical things that they work on to get better, to understand how soon to get skinny and to not give them your entire – never play square. Always play on angles.

Never go straight down the man. I'm on left shoulder, right shoulder, but never down the middle of the man. Don't let him put two hands on A. The moment he do this, you chop and go one side or the other. It's things like that. Don't let him ride you because a lot of times the guys get on your hip and they'll ride you right out of bounds, and the guy has to make a perfect throw.

No, the minute you get outside, you squeeze him back, and now you stack him. Right. Stuff like that, yeah, we can teach you that. But Ocho, man, you know, getting off that press, that's God-given, man.

That's a different ballgame. That's a different ballgame. But I was saying, I think he will be able to learn and get good at it simply because he's so goddamn athletic. All it is is just it's about learning it, understanding you got to be quick but not in a hurry. And I think he'll be fine.

And understanding, like you just said, understanding leverages, what the man has taken away from you, and then you'll be fine. That's what I think. But listen, at DB, he's phenomenal. you'll be fine. That's what I think. But listen, at DB, he's phenomenal.

There's a young fella out of Atlanta and those that play football or play DB that are in the chat, correct me if I'm wrong. AJ Terrell? Huh? AJ Terrell?

No. No, no. No, no, no. He's a trainer. DB trainer. Oh, okay. I would love to see Travis Hunter get with him

before the draft if he does decide to play defensive back. I think his name is Oliver Davis. He trains a lot of the DBs out there in Atlanta. And, man, when I talk about he starts you from scratch, he starts you from scratch from day one and take you all the way through no matter what level you are. Man, he got them young boys playing like they in the league from a technical standpoint. Yeah.

Oh, man, it's just to watch it. Just to watch him work and to watch him talk to the DBs and talk him through stuff, man. It's fucking art. It's art, man. I think his name is Oliver Davis.

I could be wrong, but dude is brilliant. Dude is brilliant. I think based on his athleticism, I think he'll be better at DB, and then once he focuses solely on DB.

Because you have to understand, time, all the guys you mentioned was much more technical coming out at their position than what he is champ had feet on top of feet

time was time time was time and you know Woody we know what Woody was, Woody later transitioned to safety but he played, he went to safety uh but he played but he played he went to safety but he still played the slot um i think once travis because travis is bigger than you think yeah he tall tall yeah he like six two six three yeah he i mean he's a

big ass kid but just watching him and the way he moves and with his arm length, the way he can play, I think he'll be better. I think he's going to be I think he's going to be a DB. I think he's going to be a DB. To me, I think it's a win-win either way. Either way it goes. I'm just saying based on what I've seen so far

Trav can play both sides of the ball. He can play. Matter of fact, he can come train with me. He can come train with me. He can play receiver. I'll lock him up. He can play DB, and I'll route him up. Either way it go. For the most part, though,

if you look at the guys, they're like running shallow cross or they're running goal routes. They're not running comeback. They're not running skinny. Can they? But there's a difference. But it's hard to play consistently both

sides of the ball. Consistently? Because it takes the guys are too good. You're talking about the best of the best. Oh, no. You ain't going to get... You ain't playing Alabama one week, and then you play

Vanderbilt, and then you play Austin P., Georgia... No disrespect to none of those teams. Austin what? Austin P. When you play in the NFL, you get top... Hey, you getting top dogs every week. Top dogs every week. Hey, listen,

even if the team is bad, even if it's an OFA team, it's still some top dogs out there top dogs every week even listen even if the team is bad even if it's the OFA team it's still some top dogs out there you gotta get them hell yeah hell yeah

alright Ocho now it's time for Q&A we got a we got the graphic there we go finally got our graphic back oh man

we oh that's right it's late it's almost 3 o'clock mm-hmm hey I'm feeling good. You ain't notice I ain't fighting for my life tonight. You done took a nap.

You probably slept till 12 o'clock. How you know? Because I know you. Yeah. Villains Hero said, why does Ocho do things like a female where he manipulates the situation when he's wrong with half truth just because he's over emotional with Kong? More transparent than you think. What are you talking about?

I think he's talking about the Odell situation because we were talking about... Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. That's how I feel. Don't tell me how I feel. Don't tell me how I feel. I feel he's still top 20. God damn it. Until I listed 25. I feel he's still top 20. God damn it.

Until I listed 25. I ain't like that part. I ain't like when you did that. I ain't like when you did that. I ain't like when you did that. That put things into perspective, and I didn't want to see things, and I didn't want to put things into perspective.

I'm still seeing Odell from 2018, and I'm going to keep that vision. Tardy Rocker asks, why y'all never talk about track and field? Both of you claim to love it. In Texas high school state meet, you have four teams that ran under 39. Normally what we talk about, we talk about the

Olympics, we talk about the World Championship. But I did see Ascocita. They ran 39, I think 39-14, which is the second fastest time. They also have the first fastest time in which they ran, I think they ran 38-4, which is the second fastest time. They also have the first fastest time in which they ran, I think they ran 38-76 earlier this year. They beat Duncanville again for the Class A.

I also saw their 4x4 that ran 3-10, I think, if I'm not mistaken. So it's just... And I saw this young lady that broke the state, I think she broke the state record into a negative head win. She ran 11-21 and the guy from Ascocita, young lady that broke the state i think she broke the state record into a negative head win she ran 11 21 and the guy was asked yeah the guy from askasita into a negative head win he ran 1019

so what if you get that win behind him going the other way he's probably gonna go 99 something hold on in high school running a 10-1? 10-1-9. Yep. He got to see me. He going to LSU on a track and a football scholarship. For real? Yeah. Damn. That boy moving, boy. But you know them boys

school. Like I said, you go to Texas, you go to Georgia, you go to Florida, you go to Georgia, you go to Florida, and you come to Cali, they running. Oh, yeah. Yeah. They going to lay down some blistering times for you. But ask Casita, the 6A.

I think they won the team state championship because they won the 4x4 and the 4x1. And I know that guy. I saw him win the 100 meters in a 10.19. So congratulations,cacita but yeah we normally talk about the Olympics we're going to have a live that we're going to cover the Olympics this year we normally cover the Olympics well we don't

normally but we're going to do it this year this is the first time that we've had nightcap during the Olympics so we're going to do that and when it rolls around and have the world championships, which was first started in 83, we're going to cover those as well. So hopefully, Tony, you're okay with that brief coverage

of high school. Landy Ray, hey guys, just got to say, let's go Wolves. Do you have an embarrassing moment that you still think about to this day? Embarrassing moment that I still think about to this day? Mm-hmm. Man, that's a good one.

Embarrassing moment. You know what? And that's a good, go ahead. Uncle, you got, you got to take that. What I'm trying to, I'm trying to think. I'm trying to think myself. What did I do? Damn.

And I had a few embarrassing moments yeah I'm trying to think were they were they were you just embarrassed and nobody else knew about them or were they public and that's what made it more that's what made it embarrassing, that's what made it embarrassing. Yeah, public embarrassment.

That's even worse. Oh, that's even worse. Trying to think. I mean, I think on the plane, I can be honest, before flying out, obviously, you know, I get to the airport. I like to get to the airport early,

about two hours early. I always go to La Careta. There's a La Careta in the airport. I get two cafe con leches. So you already know I get that coffee and my assistant before the flight.

So what do you think once I get in the air and I'm going anywhere over three hours, you know, I get a little gassy sometimes. It's embarrassing. Nobody else knew about it, but the person next to me, they knew. Come on, man.

You bad. Yeah. You busted it next to somebody, Ocho? Yeah, they didn't know. It was one of them silent ones. You know them silent ones. What do you mean they didn't know? I mean, because it could have came from anywhere.

It was one of two people. It's either you or him. How? It's a plane full of people. Nah, you anywhere. It's one of two people. It's either you or him. How? It's a plane full of people. Nah, you know. It's close proximity. You know that thing ain't coming from the back. Hey, but listen.

It's not funny, but it's kind of embarrassing. Because they be sitting there reading or doing something. And you don't want to look over at them. But at the corner of my eye, using my peripheral vision, you can see them do like this. Because they don't really want to look over at them, but at the corner of my eye, using my peripheral vision, you can see them do like this because they don't really want to... And you're on the plane, so you really can't go nowhere.

I mean, to me, that's an embarrassing moment because they probably know it came from me, but don't want to say anything because what do you tell someone that just farted on a plane in the middle of the air at 32,000 feet? That's disgusting. That's embarrassing.

It's not disgusting. That's human nature. And the first thing they do, first thing they do, like I ain't gonna know, they reach up there and turn the little vent on. Yeah, you did that. Don't blow that. Come on. I mean, that's somewhat embarrassing.

That's somewhat embarrassing. I'm glad I already know foods that will make me. I don't eat them. I don't partake. Right. I ain't going to the bathroom on no plane. That ain't happening.

You got it. No, I don't got to do nothing. I can hold it for at least 10 hours. So I'm good. You going to not pee for 10 hours, man? I could go pee. I ain't going to poop. I ain't put my butt down on that cram, be crammed. Man, you talking, you ain't got to put your booty

on there. When you go to the bathroom, you take the goddamn tissue and you lay it on top of the toilet. I ain't got to go. I'm good. I'm fine. Thank you. Oh, man, you tripping, man. I leave before I leave. I do it before I leave the house. I'm comfortable. Number two in public. I don't care where it's at.

Now, if I go to a restaurant, and this is how you know if a restaurant care about their customers. If you go to a restaurant and they got one plaque, don't shit there. Don't shit there. Because you fuck around,

you wipe your ass, and you have shit all on your hand. Now, you go to a restaurant, five-star restaurant, most of the time, the kind of toilet tissue they have, they have two plaque. If they got two-ply,

you enjoy yourself and take your nice shit. I don't give a damn if they got paper towels. I don't care if they got hand towels. I ain't taking no dump at no restaurant. Nasty ass. I'm just trying to give you... Don't give me nothing. I bet I won't go out to eat with you. I mean, listen, I'm giving you boo-boo etiquette.

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Like at pooping at stadiums. I see people go in the stadium. How you going to bathroom and poop? Wait, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. If you go to a football game at halftime, you don't take time to poop before you go back to watch the third and fourth quarter? No, I don't. No. You ain't, man.

You ain't living, man. You ain't living, man. You ain't living. You ain't living. Hold on. You ain't never been to Walgreens or Target and you got to use the bathroom while you're going up and down the aisles and use the bathroom at Target or Walgreens? No.

Mm-mm. You ain't living. Mm-mm. You ain't living. You ain't living. You living't living. Mm-mm. You ain't living. You living. Listen, you alive, but you ain't living. I already know how to make myself go to the bathroom. I drink me a little warm water.

Before I brush my teeth, I drink... Warm water through your system to make you use the bathroom? Yeah. Okay, I ain't never heard that. That's new. Yeah. I go before I leave home, I'm straight. Okay, okay. I ain't never heard that. That's new. Yeah. I go, before I leave home, I'm straight. Okay, okay. I don't eat nothing funky. I ain't gonna eat nothing hot.

I'm not gonna drink any milk, eat no cheese. I'm not gonna drink, I'm not gonna eat any apples. Right. Okay, T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T- We be somewhere, Joey be grabbed by two or three apples. Tell my boss, man, you want one? I say, I sure do not. Wait, apple make you use the bathroom too? What? Apple peels? Yes. They don't do nothing to me.

Anytime, like when I have surgery, they like, Mr. Sharp, you know, because they give you medicine. I tell Shelly, go give me some chocolate milk and an apple. Yeah. Man, I had a... Last surgery I had, I had a Ocho. Last surgery I had, I had a pile so high I had the heart down off it.

I had a Ocho. Don't tell nobody else that, man. You got too many people in the chat, man. Don't tell nobody else that. Whatever. I had me like. Whatever. I had me like a glass. I had this solo

cup about three quarters of the way full with chocolate milk. And all she had to do was just cut. I just eat the apple peels. I can eat the whole apple, but I just cut some slices off the apple peel. Had the heart down off it.

Yeah. I don't like that. Man, y'all, man, y'all, hey, somebody said the apple way keep the doctor away. That's right. I don't mess with no apples. I only eat apples at my house, and I only

eat them at a certain time. At night? Oh, no. Oh, I would never eat one at night. I got to get up out that bed, cuz. You pass the gas and boy, you have to have somebody come clean

the whole room. Oh, no. I eat them probably about three o'clock in the afternoon or in the morning. But I don't eat them. I don't eat them. If I'm going somewhere, I don't fool with them. Okay. Mm-mm.

I definitely... Man, you think I eat an apple at 9 o'clock at night? I mean, listen, that's a delicacy. You know, having fruit before you go to bed. Oh, no. I could never do that. Oh, no. My system

is on overdrive. I already know. Right. Okay. Yeah, I don't have no issues. Apples, pears, peaches, fruit, like, nah. I stay in my house. I got you.

I'm going to let you have that with no choice. Y'all have a good time eating y'all fruit. Okay, Dennis Bari said, with Mother's Day next Sunday, what was the gift you got her that really made her happy? For me, I got her CD changers, CD

changer stereo, and a bunch of CDs from the 60s that took her to Tony Roma's for dinner. Look at my mom. Oh, man. Well, it's actually Mother's Day every month for my mom considering she get a check.

I'm trying to think. I brought a Mercedes. But most of the time, my mom's simple. My mom just want money. My mom don't want anything. She don't want anything that she want money. Because she want to go to the racetrack with her girlfriends. And they play the slot machine.

That's what my mom want to do. My grandmother, for Mother's Day, I bought her one year, I bought a necklace, Ocho, and it was a diamond and a cross. It was gold, but it had diamonds inside of it. And I remember she looked at it. She looked up at me. She called my sister

in the room. She said, Libby. She said, Libby. I said, Libby, granny call you. She came in there. She told my sister. She said, you see this chain? She said, yes, ma'am. She said, it's pretty. She said, it goes in the ground with me.

My grandma never took it off. I brought a watch. I brought a watch at a local drugstore. But the band, I don't know if that was before your time, but they used to have a band. People older, probably my age, understand. It was crystal flicks, so you could twist the band. It was just like rubber band, but it was like a metal.

And it had big numbers, it light, you know, you look at night, it light up. She told my sister, she said, this necklace and this watch go in the ground with me. And we buried her wishes, we buried her in it. So that was probably the greatest gift I've ever given

somebody because of what it meant, how she reacted when she received it right i think the greatest gift ever gave my grandma probably probably probably probably a vehicle bmw i never forget bmw 745i and seeing the look on her face. Seeing the look on her face. My mama, I bought her a BMW as well. 330i, if I'm not mistaken.

A little drop top. And I bought her a purse and inside the purse, she opened the purse and I had a little dog, a little toy poodle. But it looked like a chicken wing. It was so little. It looked like a damn chicken wing. I never forget that, man. And you know, my mom was very, very theatrical, very, um, flamboyant and she just hollered and cried and, and fell out. And, oh man,

it was, it was, uh, that's one of the greatest moments, man, seeing their faces and smile. Yep. That's what it's all about. Yeah, when you get them gifts. And, I mean, hell, shit, I'm, shit, I'm not. You know, Ocho, you know when you, like, you know, I already knew because, like, my grandmother, my grandfather, you know, the ring, you know, back then it wasn't really no diamonds.

You got a band. Right. So my grandmother really never had any expensive jewelry and she was OK with that. Right. I didn't expect. For to have that kind of impact, I knew she would like it. It was a cross. Right. Religious. So I knew she would like it. religious. So I knew she would like it. I thought I didn't get the one I originally thought because I thought that would be too and I knew she would have thought that would be too gaudy too ostentatious.

But I didn't expect the reception that I got. Because I started to tear up. Because now she thought so much of it and she never took it off. Right. And so to her wishes

she went in the ground with it. So those are special moments that you never forget. Derrick Jr. said what's up y'all I'm 25 just got a new job at a warehouse and I'm happy but also struggling with thoughts

because I know I have more potential. Any words of advice? Yeah. Potential just means you haven't done anything, bro. What do you have that potential in? You better tap into that shit. Exactly.

Go ahead, Ocho. I'm just saying. I'll let you finish. Whatever that potential is, you got to tap into it. You saying you have potential but you gotta find what your niche is what is your niche find out what your niche is and then it won't even be work

because it's something that you love find out what you love tap into that motherfucker and lock in it's really that simple I mean do what you have to do

until you can do what you want to do until you can do what you want to do. Oh, stay right there. Boy, boy, you done hit me with one. I think I ain't got my goddamn notepad. So I think that's the thing. People are like, I got so much potential. Potential just means you haven't done anything.

Okay, what does that potential end? I think that's the thing. People are like, I got so much potential. Potential just means you haven't done anything. Okay, what is that potential in? Okay, what are you doing to cultivate that potential? I mean, everybody has the potential to do something, but if it's not planted, if it's not harvested, so then what are we?

We all play with God. God has so much potential more potential than what we had yeah okay what good is that we say that man hey char tell him i tell him i was better than you okay bro that was 25 years ago i'm retired i'm tired from nfl and you never met your potential. So you proud of that? Right. Yeah. So, hey, Derek, bro, you got to tap in, bro. You got to find what that potential is in and then travel down that road. But that doesn't mean you quit your job, bro, now.

Yeah, don't do that. Don't do that. Lil said, what's up, Uncle Nocho? My name is Khalil and it's my 18th birthday. Appreciate everything. Thanks for the amazing podcast. Lil, happy 18th birthday. Khalil, happy 18th birthday,

bro. Keep up the great work, man. Happy birthday, boy. You know what to do tonight. Bam! What's up, Uncle Nocho? Love y'all. Tune in every show. Where would y'all rank yourselves in the all-time tight end wide receiver list? I'm number one. What you mean?

Number one. I'm the greatest entertainer that has ever graced the NFL. Ever been on the green grass. Ever. Greatest entertainer ever. Now, all the other accolades and all the other stats, I don't care nothing about that. That ain't why I tried to make it.

I found my lane and I stayed in it. The greatest entertainer to ever don an NFL field. Anybody, if you disagree with me, let me know. Me personally, I love my career. I didn't think at any point in time that I would have the career I just looked I just wanted to make the NFL make enough money

that I could take care of my family my grandmother get them out of that situation keep them out of that situation as I started to get better I was like, okay, what could I possibly become? I remember in 97,

Mark Kisler, he was a writer, I think he is still right, he came up to me and said, you can make the Hall of Fame. I said, what? He said, yeah, you have a couple more years like this, you can make the Hall of Fame. I said, what? He said, yeah, you have a couple more years like this. You can make the Hall of Fame.

That was the first time I ever even heard about it. Because in 91, we played... Who did we play? If I'm not mistaken, we played Detroit in the Hall of Fame game. Remember the game?

In Canton. Come on, bro. I'm a seventh-round pick. Seventh-round picks don't have no dreams of playing in the Hall of Fame. I'm sorry. We're just hoping we can make the team. And so we're just like, man, damn. Because at that point in time, Ocho, I had gone to

five straight Pro Bowls and had been to three had been on three all proteins but I'm not it really never dawned on me my mind never went to Hall of Fame until he brought it up to me in a conversation

in the locker room as a matter of fact we were walking off the field and you know everybody called me Sharpie like Sharpie you know with a couple more seasons

you can make the Hall of you can be a Hall of famer I'm like really he's like yeah so that was really the first time that it ever really dawned on me but I'm okay wherever you rank me five

I think I think had better career than I had I think Kelsey obviously had a way better career than I had. I think Kelsey obviously had a way better career than I had. Gates, I don't think Gates gets enough credit. Gonzo, but I'm good. I don't even worry about it.

I did what I did. I think y'all know from the way I talk and the way I'm so motivated, I got everything out of my God-given ability. I couldn't have, you know, hey, I wish I could have stayed healthy like Kelsey, but I missed a season due to injuries. Not in one season, but over the course, I missed 16 games. So do I have maybe another 1,000 yards instead of 10,000? I have 11. Instead of 815, maybe I have

900 catches. I don't think that changes anybody's perception of me. I was the first with 700 catches, the first with 800 catches, the first with 9,000 yards, the first with 10,000 yards. I had all the records. I'm good. Guys come along

and at some point in time these guys is gonna move down but hey my kids will be able to look back and say hey you know what guys my dad my dad had all these records my dad in the hall of fame they'll be able to go see my my grandkids great grands will always be able to go see that so i'm good good. I'm good where I am. I am. I'm content. Oh yeah. Even if I wasn't, I can't,

nothing I can do about it now. I can't go back and catch any more passes, no touchdowns, no catches, no yard. I can't do nothing. No Superbowls. I'm good. I'm better than good.

Uh, Freddie clay 15 said, what's up? I don't show. Uh, still patiently waiting on the portrait. It was supposed to ship end of April, now being pushed back to mid-May.

Is there anything that could be done? I wish there's something I could tell you. Just be patient. I appreciate your patience, bro. Hopefully, you're on the list. The mid-May, we just got a shipment in, 1,500 cases. But, bro... the mid-May, we just got a shipment in, 1,500 cases. But bro,

I kind of let them handle that. But I'll check. I will do that. I'll check. But that's the best I can tell you. I mean, I can just tell you what they tell me, that they're doing the best job they possibly can. we did not expect the demand to be what it is uh we didn't we didn't know we were going to be able to activate as many states that we've been able to activate with uh california texas florida virginia on the horizon uh and maryland um all within the next um three to five months. So I just ask that you give a patient,

be patient a little while longer. And I greatly appreciate that, bro. Appreciate that. Go back. Oh, man. Where we at? Okay. Time limit, Ocho.

Hey, it's almost three o'clock. I know. I'm good, though, because I took a four-hour nap during the day. That ain't no nap. You went to sleep. No, it was only four hours. Naps normally run around somewhere between 20 and 30 minutes.

That ain't no nap, Unc. That's like a long blink. Oh, okay. Thank you for joining us. Thank you for staying up late. Or watching another episode of Nightcap. Please make sure you hit that like button. Please, please make sure you hit that like button please please make sure you hit that subscribe button and thank you guys for selling out shaved by laporte again i

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