Club Shay Shay - Nightcap - Hour 2: Parsons delusional, Prime to NFL?, Dwight’s beef with Shaq

Episode Date: January 9, 2025

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to Micah Parsons making delusional comments like the Cowboys will win the Super Bowl next year. Later, Unc and Ocho discuss  Deion “Coach Prime” Sanders' appearance on the Million Dollaz Worth Of Game podcast with Gillie and Wallo saying he would consider an NFL coaching job if he could coach both his sons, Shedeur and Shilo together, Dwight Howard is still beefing with Shaquille O’Neal and much more!03:35 - Cowboys13:53 - Coach Prime24:18 - Falcons may keep Cousins as backup31:35 - Dwight Howard still beefing with Shaq49:10 - Q and Ayyy(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Yeah. After, after the game, I was in the game. Oh Joe. Yeah. After today. Unless they, until they hire head coach or they re-sign Mike McCarthy. Right. They get a big player in free agency or they do something. We're going to be done talking about the Cowboys.

We done? Especially if it does coming from Michael Parsons. Michael Parsons said the Cowboys will win the Super Bowl next year. He said, gonna be an amazing thing to see next year when we're holding that trophy. I take nothing that he says. I take everything he says with a grain of salt.

Because he said a couple of years ago, they're gonna have a Baltimore Ravens, a Tampa Bay Buccaneer, or Seattle Seahawk defense. He said this was gonna be the year. So because here, the thing is, he just had, like when Joe Namer did what he did, everybody remembers that. But there's no ramification if it doesn't come true.

Oh, he just said that. Everybody only remembers when he said it. So I'm gonna be done, cause I think now he's doing his podcast more regularly. Right. And he wants to say that, oh, man, you're Michael's. So after today, I want you to get everything that you want to say about the Cowboys until they hire or they fire Mike McCarthy, they get somebody in free agency. We're done. We're not we're not doing this. We're not, we're not doing this anymore. I mean, because I think now he just, he just said, he just saying stuff to get

clicks on his podcast and that's fine. That's fine. Um, Hey, have at it. I'm not going to knock the man for the hustle, but he just taught. He just talking ridiculous. Okay. But that's his team. I mean, is it, is he allowed to have the belief that they belief that they have a chance to win the Superbowl next year?

Did he have to believe last year? I believe so. Look up, when was the last team to win the Superbowl and they didn't make the playoffs the previous year? When was the last team to win the Superbowl and they hadn't been to the end of the championship game in 30 years? How are they going to win the Superbowl when hadn't been to the end of the championship game in 30 years. How they gonna win the Super Bowl when he doesn't even believe his quarterback is top five? You remember they was naming the top five quarterbacks and he left his quarterback out?

Yeah, yeah, I remember. He talks more about a quarterback that doesn't do anything for him than he does his own. Right. Damn, huh? I remember, hold on. I don't know if you remember, but I remember that I think they might've suspended. They might've suspended T.O. when he was hyping Brett Favre and talking and they asked him a question. You remember that? Yeah, I knew exactly what you're talking about.

I knew exactly what you're talking about. I know exactly what you're talking about. This man talking about, ooh, Joe Burrow, he got to be the MVP. I mean, he's right about that. But they ain't got a break. The 2019 Buccaneers was the last team that didn't make the playoff the previous year that won the Super Bowl. See? Yeah. Hey, you never know. that didn't make the playoff the previous year that won the Superbowl. See. Yeah. Hey, you never know.

Okay. It's Tom Brady. Is Tom Brady coming out of retirement? Absolutely not. Okay. But you got to realize if you, the year before James through for 5,200 yards. Yeah. Look at what they had.

They had Mike Evans. They had Chris Godwin. They had talent in that defense. Devin White, they had Levante David. They drafted Vita Vea. They had Vita Vea. Look at the corners that they had. They were loaded.

They just needed a quarterback that just wouldn't turn the damn ball over. That's it. That's all they needed. That's what they got. I'm not saying any other quarterback, I'm not saying they would have won the Super Bowl with any other quarterback, but they would have been a playoff team with any other quarterback. If you just cut half the turnovers, because I

think he had 36, so you take that down to 18 there in the playoffs, they won nine games. As a matter of fact, James Winston season, he threw 33 tests out and 33 picks. Yeah. That was the season before Tom Brady got there. Right. Yeah. But I just go to show you. So just say, Ocho, if he cuts half those interceptions, because that's what Brady did.

I just, I like, just be realistic bro. You just be talking. Make a funny man. How y'all gonna win? Do you, did you realize your defense? Your defense was terrible. Yeah, it was bad. Your defense was terrible.

It was- Y'all couldn't stop the run. Y'all couldn't stop a parked car with a Uzi. Wait. They couldn't guard the park. They couldn't guard nothing on Cho. Look, go pull up the numbers. Let's go pull up the numbers in Russian. Team ran wild. Derrick Henry ran wild.

Who else ran wild? Philly ran wild the first time on him. Who else ran wild on him? Oh, you remember the Saints? You remember the Saints over there? Who else ran wild? Philly ran wild the first time on them. Who else ran wild on them? Hey, oh you remember the Saints? You remember the Saints over the day? Y'all gave up 40 points over the day. Oh, it was week one and week two. Week one. Yeah, the Saints were eight.

And we know what the Saints turned out to be. And the next week they played, who did they play? Was it the Ravens? They played the Saints week two. Oh, they know, they beat Cleveland and everybody was up in arms. And I said, hold on, slow down. I want to see them play when somebody have a competent offensive line. They're starting two guys that hadn't taken snaps

in the NFL. And everybody was, oh, and the Cavalry, oh yeah. I said, okay. Okay. You just had to wait and see. Ravens, Says and Ravens Saison Ravens. Then they beat the Giants and the Steelers and then whatever. It was downhill from now.

Lost to the Lions 47 to nine. Yeah. Remember that's when they were running trick plays. They throw back shoulder phase to the tackle. They run a hook and lateral to the tackle. Yeah. That's where they found so much of y'all defense. Name the time you've ever seen a team run a hook and lateral to a tackle. They threw a back shoulder fade to a tackle.

Yeah. But that's the defense that's going to take you. That's going to the soup bowl. Who did play for the lions? Lost to the Niners. Falcons. Eagles. Lost to the Niners, boo boo. Falcons, Eagles, oh I like hearing lost, I don't hear nothing about no Dubs. Right.

Hey listen, you gotta believe in this team, huh? You gotta say all the right things, especially for that, for that bring, for that. Say we gonna be better than we were this year. Huh? Say we gonna be better. Okay. First of all, your quarterback hadn't been able to stay healthy consistently.

Instead of going to the extreme, huh? We're going to be better. Right. But don't you guys got to be better? Now, all I know, think about what y'all in that building. Y'all don't win in your own, how you gonna go to the football and you can't win in your own building?

Win at home, yeah. Hey, did they go 0-4-8 at home? They won one game. They won two, they might have won two games at home. Who did they beat at home? They beat the Giants in Carolina, right? Or did they beat Carolina on the road? They beat the, okay, they beat the Bucks and the Giants at home.

They beat one playoff team all year. Right. The books. There'll be Washington. Right. You beat the Steelers. They beat the Steelers, Washington and the books. Okay.

They had a couple of quality wins. Okay. They won three, one, two, three. No, they won two at home. They beat the Steelers on the road. Remember they beat the Steelers on like a Sunday night, I think. But they're not, they're not that good.

They're a long way from a suit. First of all, you're not gonna go to the suit boat cause your owner ain't gonna let you. Ooh. Your owner not gonna let you. That's your problem. And y'all, y'all, the culture of the Cowboys is talking. That's what their owner does.

Yeah. That's what these players do. You in a way, huh? Yep. That's what they do. They talk. So, oh Joe, the Cowboys also blocked McCarthy from talking to the Bears for one more week.

They have an exclusive, like Wednesday, Oh Joe, the Cowboys also blocked McCarthy from talking to the Bears for one more week. They have an exclusive, Wednesday, but they had a one week exclusive rights window. What? So a week from today, if they don't have anything done, which I don't expect, it gonna be gone. And they're doing it on purpose, what's the point? You had plenty opportunity. If you were gonna sign Mike McCarthy,

you could have done it at any other time. You could have done it any other time. After five years, you don't know what you got? After five years, you don't know if you wanna be with this woman or not, don't you? What is Jerry doing? That's his call, right? That's his call to block that?

Yes, absolutely. That makes absolutely no sense. That makes absolutely no sense to hold a man hostage because if you wanted to pay him, you would have paid him already. You would have paid him already. Let the man go. Let the man find another job somewhere else and I think he's probably holding on to him until he finds out who he, who he, who he. Who is available.

Bingo. Who gonna be the. But here's the thing, Ocho. He won't coach us to take an incentive based contract. He thinks it's an honor. And look, there's only one of 32. It is, it is kind of an honor to coach the Cowboys though. No, it's an honor to coach in NFL

cause there's only 32 jobs. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But Ocho, on an incentive based contract? When everybody else is getting eight, nine, 10 million dollars a year and you think I'm about to take four to five plus a cent. Oh hell no. Oh hell no.

And plus you not gonna let me do my job. You do all the talking. What what general manager what owner has his own show radio show? No. No. Now you already took a shot at Mike McCarthy. You said you'd been maybe the blazer called a little archaic.

That what you said. Now you say, hey, Mike McCarthy's a winner. Mike McCarthy's the winner. Hey, he always say the right things and don't know what he talking about. He don't know what he talking about half the time, man. No, he doesn't. But who's surprised by that?

Uh, coach prime says he would consider an NFL coach a job if he could coach your door and Shiloh take a listen to what coach prime had to say. Play that seed. The only way I would consider continuing is that I'm coaching my sons, plural. Not singularly, plural. I like the sound of that. I like the sound of that. So what we need to do is we need to pay attention

where Shadr goes. Not only do we need to pay attention where Shadr goes, at some point we also need to pay attention where Shadur goes. At some point, we also need to pay attention where Shiloh goes. Right. Wherever Shadur goes, there's an opportunity, there's a chance at some point in the near future that Dion could be the head coach of that team if that team suffers early on. All he's doing now is playing the seed. Now, you didn't put it out there, did you?

So the opportunity is going to present itself because you know how God works. One thing about it, when you're a child of God, the opportunities you ask for, the tongue is powerful. Anything you say, there's a chance it will happen. And I say this here first. But the question is, look, we know should do it. We're going to have a high grade.

What type of grade is, is, is Shiloh going to have? Right. And you know, look, Tennessee has a high draft pick. Uh, they have one of the first three, four picks. We know that. Uh, but what's the grade on Shiloh? Does he have a third round, fourth round, fifth round, sixth round, seventh round grade, free agent? That's the question.

Right. It's different. Football is different than basketball. Basketball you only got two rounds. And most of the guys that come out in the second round, I mean, every once in a while you'll get a Ben Wallace, no, Ben Wallace with a free agent. You'll get a Nicole Jokic.

Now that's an extreme case. Second round draft pick, three time MVP, finals MVP, or you get a Draymond. But the second round is really not often, Ocho, not often. Now, the NFL, these picks are very, very, very, very valuable. Very. So the question is what type of grade and how, how is he high? How high is he going to be selected?

Now, co time said plural, both of his son, could Tennessee take Shadur and then he's there, say fifth, sixth round take Shiloh. I don't know if he's gonna have a third or fourth round grade on him, I don't. Right. I don't. I'm not sure.

I haven't seen any of the mob drafts. I haven't seen anything Mel Kipers has put out or come up with so far. Still kind of, still kind of early, but, um, it's going to be interesting. I can't wait. I can't wait to April. Cause I want to see, I want to see those first five picks. I want to see where they go. I want to see what the Bengals get, where they can improve at.

Hell, I'm waiting to see who the defensive coordinator is gonna be for the Bengals. Well, y'all better be out of boatload of good. Y'all gonna lose Trey Henderson. Yeah, yeah. He's had, he's posted back to back 17 and a half sacks. Yeah. Back to back. Yeah, somebody gonna pay him well.

Oh yeah, boy, he was the lone rice, what y'all got? Oh, you talking about on defense? On defense? Okay, okay, yeah, you right, you right. Y'all second there had a problem holding up. Can you imagine the problems y'all gonna have with no question? Yeah, it's... It can get ugly. I don't think Prime really wants to leave. I don't know.

He got a great situation. Yeah, even with a great situation, you don't pass up that kind of money. You don't pass up opportunity like that. Those opportunities. Oh, no, no, no. You know, he's not gonna pass up an opportunity to coach his son. Yeah, I would. But guess what? He would just be coaching his son. Right, yeah. He know, he's not gonna pass up an opportunity to coach his son. Yeah, I will. But guess what?

He ain't gonna just be coaching his son. Right, yeah. He gonna be coaching a lot of other hard head, you know what? Right. Now, you know Prime, Prime gonna get the respect now. You know that. You know that.

They ain't even play like that. Matter of fact, he ain't gonna let you play like that. And he kid. It's different now, Ocho. The way you and I respect people. Yeah. And my thing is, why not just have respect for everybody and just do your job? Show up on time, do what you're supposed to do.

Go home. That's not that hard. It's really not. I can see, Ocho, you know, you working, you got multiple jobs and you get off late and you gotta change and stuff like that. Bro, you know you gotta be to work at nine o'clock or you gotta be to work at 8.30.

Okay. You know, meetings started at such and such a time. Practice started such, I don't know. We started, our practice started at two o'clock because Mike wanted to keep us on a schedule just like we played on, our practice started at two o'clock because Mike wanted to keep us on a schedule just like we played on Sunday. We played at two o'clock. Let's practice at two o'clock. When we had a night game, we'd go run through the stuff at the stadium, get used to seeing them all up in the lights. Yeah, I mean that's what we did. I mean our schedule was a quarter.

I just never understood that but uh, I just, I just never understood that. But, uh, but I'm trying to think Tennessee, Tennessee, what, what Tennessee don't have no opening, they, they fired the general manager, but kept the coach. So Tennessee is off the table. Makes no, made absolutely no sense. Yeah. I'm biased cause I know Ray. Um, I congratulated him when he got the job.

Uh, I'm trying to think who's the way. Okay. The Raiders are available. Who else is available. Okay, the Raiders are available. Who else is available? Oh, the Jags are available? Yeah. But the Jags ain't taking the quarterback. They just gave Trevor Lawrence 55.

Oh no, they definitely ain't taking no quarterback. So the Raiders, who else? The Bears, Patriots, but well, first of all, neither none of those teams are taking the quarterback. They took Caleb Buffett, number one overall, they took Drake, main number three. So none of those teams gonna be in play cause they not taking the quarterback.

The Jets. The Jets are way down though. Well, how far down? The Jets probably what, seven? They're like in the 13th, right? Or 10th. Well, no, they're gonna be nine or 10th. What?

Just a seven? Just a seven. I knew I just, I knew I wasn't tripping. I said a seven too. You got a Raiders, we know Raiders got a top five, I think, right? Or they six? Six.

They get they- Brady and Tom. Brady and Tom are familiar with each other. or the six, six. They get, they- Brady and Tom, Brady and Tom are familiar with each other. Both used to be under, well, I think Tom still is, but Time used to be an underarmor guy. Right. Until he went back to Nike. That, that, that, that-

Glad he did that. The Saints got an opening, got a vacancy. I like, I like, I like where you're going with this. Prime and Vegas. Raiders go up. The Cowboys might have an opening, but I don't see them getting off that. They just gave the man 60 million.

Nah, uh-uh. I like that Raiders look. Or Colorado could give another five year deal for nine million a year plus in savings. I like that. That could happen. That could happen. But I still, if that, if that NFL opportunity, if they, if that window opens for crime, the go- go coach in the NFL.

Matter of fact, even if it wasn't Ishael, if it wasn't Shadour, I still think he was. I think he wants to coach his son. Because you gotta realize, his sons have never played, Shadour has never played for any other coach other than for time. Right, I understand that, I understand that. At no level.

I don't know if anybody can ever say that. That the only head coach I've ever had is my dad. Right. That's dope. That's dope. But I just know in prime the way I do. Boy, they came a calling, they came a knocking. Man, we would love to interview you for the opportunity to be

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180 million for a backup. Now, I told you first hand, I like this, I like this, you do Cousins, and you know you get the court. I said, Ocho, at the absolute best case scenario, the absolute best case, you get Kurt for two years. But Oh Joe, do you realize how what a debacle this will be if you get him for one? Yeah. Well, it's already that.

It's already, because now you get them for one, now it's not going to be a starter now going forward. And that's for 180 to be a starter now going forward. And, and- That's for 180 million for a backup. Hey, listen, that lets you know how desperate teams are for a quarterback. He still might get traded because there are other teams that need a veteran presence where they might bring them in just to be a starter. No, I ain't gon- why would I do that?

First of all- You know why? The same reason they probably gon' bring Aaron Rodgers back. Ocho, the difference is that Kirk Cousins guaranteed 38 million. Right. I'ma do it like Russ. No, I'm not trading.

I'ma go get him because if I trade for him, I gotta pick that 38 up. Right. So no, I'ma let y'all, y'all, y'all do what y'all gon' do. Y'all cut him and then. Right. Oh, then we assign him a- But hold on. He might have a no trade. Oh yeah. I think he has a no trade. I think he does have it in there, if I'm not mistaken.

Yes, he has a no trade. Yeah. So he has to have, he has to agree to it. Come here. Come on. You know, it might, it might get to that point. Well, you love you cam hogging up all the camera time. You looking for you looking for a wife. What up to say this? Is there anybody out there that has a two year old? He said, I'm two years old.

I weigh 173 pounds and I'm looking for a girlfriend. I am intact. So we can make beautiful babies. He said, whoa, whoa, did I say nothing about no babies now? I ain't say nothing about no babies. I ain't say nothing about no babies. You weren't in the kitchen eating. But, uh, Ocho, uh, Huck, Ocho,

that man got 38 million coming. He got 62 million this year. So he gonna make 40, he gonna make 90 million in the first two years. I got to understand, Kurt been making money for a little minute too now. He been making a good, a pretty penny for a very long time. So him- Keep going on, I'm going to put him up.

Come on, let's go away. Go ahead. You know, Kirk, hey, chat, Kirk getting the money he's getting now. Listen, I hate saying he's been able to swindle. Obviously, as a player, you earn every dollar, every cent you get, and I'm all for, you know, you getting your money. But Kurt Cousins bet on himself.

Kurt Cousins bet on himself for a very long time, when he was in Washington. Oh, you want to franchise tag me? Okay bet. Oh, you want to franchise tag me again? Okay bet. Then he goes somewhere else, boom, he gets the bag. I mean, it is what it is. It is what it is. Chat, how y'all doing?

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CJ Stroud's on the line. Do they find a way to block Bolsa? Do they find a way to block Bolsa? Do they find a way to block Khalil Mack? They've been really, really bad. They've been really bad this year, especially the offensive line. That's his way of saying, put me up. Oh, we can't bother you? Yeah, he tired.

He's been up, I ate him up since 6.30 this morning. I take him out, because when I get up, when I don't have to do the show, I can take him for a walk. So I take him for a walk. So he's been up for the better part. He's.30 this morning. I take him out, because when I get up, when I'm having to do the show, I can take him for a walk. So I take him for a walk. So he's been up for the better part. He's only been in his pen for about 30 minutes a day

when cleaning people come to clean. They're afraid of him. So Jordan, the computer. So I put him up, but yeah, that was his way of saying, I'm sleepy, daddy, I'm tired from bed. So I don't know what you got going on, but we need to fix this. But also that was my biggest concern

when I was talking about when the Kirk Cousins thing came to be. Right. You gonna spend 180 million and you gonna take a quarterback. Yeah. If you might as well, you just might as well go ahead and take the quarterback.

Now you- And just leave cousins alone. Right, now you understand why they did though. They, you know, understand why they did. You take her cousins based on his resume, despite only winning one playoff game, you know what you get from him from a statistical standpoint in the regular season.

You're worried about the playoffs later on. And then you get security because he's coming off of the Achilles injury. And lo and behold, it happened. That's what I'm saying. Ocho, you pair the guy like he's coming off of the Achilles injury and no, behold, that's what I'm saying. Oh, Joe, you, you pair the guy like he's like he's 30 and he's not coming off of the damn near career ending injury. He was already, oh Joe, he was already not mobile. Right.

And then that makes it worse. Yes. Yeah. But it comes that the Statue of Liberty has moved more than Kirk Cousins and that thing ain't moved in two other years. That's a good one. But that's why it didn't make sense to me. It never made sense to me.

And you try to rationalize it like, okay, they turn Kirk, they have him for two years. Bro, you pay a 90 million for two years? But what happened, Lord forbid, you don't want to see this happen. Right. But what if it doesn't, what if you only have it for one year? You spent $90 million for quarterback for one year.

90. Nah, they didn't, it didn't make sense for me, but honey. Oh Joe, Dwight Howard is filled up with Shaq constantly talking about him. He says he wanted to show up in TNT studio to confront him. At what point does this stop? Hey, them boy got a tussle, man. That'd be a death. Listen, we talk about celebrity boxing, which is kind of simmered down a little bit, somewhat fell off.

Now that'd be a good one. Dwight Howard versus Shaq. Four rounds, four, four rounds, four three minute rounds, head gear. Head gear or no head gear. They just need to duke it out. They need to duke it out. I don't really get Shaq's angle.

Dwight is not the player you were. We know that. You're one of the most dominant, you're one of the top players that's ever played in the game. Your place in history is secure. I don't get why punching down. Solid. Yes, I don't get why punching down. But I don't get the constant, okay, the Superman,

like I'm Superman, I get, I don't get that. But I just don't get, what I don't get is the constant. It seems like, for me, it seems like sometimes you're just a little bit of a player, I don't get that. But I just don't get, what I don't get is the constant. It seems like, for me, it seems like sometimes Shaq goes out of his way to pick at, to pick on, we call that picking at. We grew up in the South, but you know what I'm talking about in the South.

It's like, but I don't get it. And Dwight, everybody don't joke like you do, Shaq. Shaq is a big, fun-loving guy. If you've ever been a writer, you know he likes to have fun. But it doesn't seem like your jokes are in good nature. It seems like you're trying to diminish the man. Dwight Howard, he didn't win a championship, but Dwight Howard is not, he didn't win a championship, but Dwight Howard is not a bum.

Dwight Howard should have been an all 75th, a 75th anniversary player. He should have been. That's not to knock anybody, congratulations to everybody, but Dwight Howard for a period of time was a top five player in the league. He was, he took a team to a championship. He was the de facto best player on that Orlando Magic team

that went to the finals, that lost to the Lakers in four. Dwight Howard's a damn good player. He's going to the Hall of Fame. I just don't get it. I don't know. Man, we listen, we will never know because they've been going at it for a very long time. Oh, dude, he did win a championship.

He wasn't the best player on the team. He won a championship with the Lakers in 2020. Right. They've been going at it for a while. But, so what's the end game? We don't know. We don't know. We don't know the issue. We don't know what the issue may be. Maybe he just doesn't like him. Maybe he just doesn't like him. But, okay, why?

Oh, nothing. That's, I mean, for a daughter, for you not to like somebody, oh, so the guy's had to done something to you. Yeah, probably, probably has. Maybe it's something we don't know about. Maybe behind, behind closed doors, maybe something privately that we don't know. He just, he just has a, a distaste for him in general. And that says, then that's his way of letting them know by always jab-mating, by always saying something.

You know what? No, you got to put it down. Shaq's the better player. Nobody's arguing that. Right. He's a four-time champion, three finals MVP, a league MVP. I mean, he's one of the historically great players. But I don't, you know, and clearly it bothers Dwight.

I mean, they've grown now. I mean, both players got kids. And I just don't get it. I don't, I really don't. Maybe somebody in the chat can understand it and can help me understand. But this has been going on for long enough. Maybe it's Orlando, maybe it's the Superman thing.

I don't know, maybe who's the best big man to play in Orlando. I don't know, I don't. And I've thought about it, I was like, well damn, why Shat picking on the man? Going back and forth? Cause I don't, I don't think Dwight's ever said anything to Shaq or said anything to or about Shaq.

You never know. That's why I say, you never know. Now it might not have been said publicly, but you tell the wrong person and they get back to Shaq and they let you know, hey boy, you know, young, young bull been talking about you, you know, and then, you know, he reacts. that's why I say you never know. It's always something that is always something.

But at this point in time, Ocho, I say at this point in time, Shaq 50, you really gotta let it go now. You know, he ain't never too old now for a little tonsil. Yes, it is. Yes, it is. Oh, come on. Shack 50. You really gotta let it go now. You know, you ain't never too old now for a little tonsil. Yes it is, yes it is. Oh, come on, it's time out for this now. Y'all grown, y'all, Shack grown. At some point in time, you're about to have grandkids

and you still punching down on somebody? I just. You right. I don't get it. I don't get it. I don't get it. But like I said, bro, Ocho, everybody don't joke. Everybody don't want to hear you every time

something's coming in your mouth. You talking about me in a negative manner. Right. What's the end? So what do you get out of that? You better. You got more money. You a better player.

You got more championships. You got all these businesses. Shaq got so much going on Ain't no I mean Shaggy got no Shaq don't have to take a backseat when it comes to business I mean the way he's been able to parlay his I mean think about it Shaq's a big I mean you would you're not gonna find anybody that big that jovial right he likes to have fun He's very feeling proper. He's very generous. he'll help, hey, hey, get that, get with, hey, he'll be in a store somewhere and his parents can't get something for the kids. You mind if I get that? Yes, he's

always been like that. And I think it has to be because when he was a kid, his parents weren't able to afford things that he could get and so he never wants the kid to feel like he felt when he was growing up because he couldn't get certain things. So Shaq, I got, I mean, as far as generosity, but Shaq is great as he is. He ain't got to keep doing this to you, right? It's time to let it go now. This ain't been going on for about 10, 15 years.

That's why I said, listen, at this point, they got a tussle now. They ain't got a tussle. It ain't. It's too big. That's what they say, listen, at this point, they got a tussle now. They got a tussle. It's too big. That's what they want us to do. You will see. When is the last time you see two white men going at it like this? All the time.

You'll see the videos. Who? All the videos. I'll be seeing the videos. You'll be going at it. Oh, I don't know. Give me some names. I'm supposed to know.

I say I see. You say they're going at it, you know. No, you ask me. You ask me who do I see go at it. I say, you say. I'm talking about famous people. I ain't talking about somebody fighting on the internet, Ocho. I'm talking about famous people.

Two famous white people going at it. I'm trying to think. When do you see that? I gotta think about it. Okay, go ahead Yeah, I can't think of them right now the top of my head now, but you know, they'd be so why we got to do that That's I ain't going back to pop the book. Yeah Like I said, I get it right but check check don't need no cred Like I said, I get it. Right.

But Shaq don't need no cred. Shaq is a standalone. Shaq is Shaq. Yeah. When you say Shaq, you know it. If they say Shaq, you know they're talking about Shia Lone. Right. Nothing else needs to be said.

Shaq can walk in any room and everybody knows who he is. People do business with him because he's Shaq. Right. And he's a very good businessman because you know what you get when you brain check in the room. But we don't gotta go back and forth. They laugh at us. Mm-hmm. I ain't seen Justin Timberlake and Alan Thicke go at it

and Robin Thicke go at it yet. They sing the same kind of songs. Heh. But we go at each other. Yeah. Adele ain't going to Christian Aguilera. She didn't try to get at, she didn't try to get at Mariah Carey. We got to stuff. I don't know.

Maybe it's just me. Maybe it's just me. Hey, let them have, hey, that's what they want to do. But I don't, you know, I think we're at a point right now that everybody's making money. Yeah. We ain't got, I ain't got to try to demean somebody that's in this space.

I don't feel like I got to demean no black person. Right. I don't got to demean nobody, but I'm damn sure not going to demean somebody that's in this and that's in my space. Why? There's enough for everybody. Oh Joe, did you know 80% of the money that's in circulation has been printed in the last five years? Right Let us think in chat. Listen to me 80% of the money that's in circulation Currently has been printed in the last five years

So in other words, if they're not enough, they'll print some more of it. Has it lost its value? Sure. But guess what? They'll print some more of it and you can get it. Right. So I don't feel I need to be negative or talk down or talk, be demeaning or say anything negative about anybody in order to make money.

That's just me. I don't know. They gonna get it together at some point. After 10, 15 years, maybe Dwight can be the big man, and maybe Shaq can be the big man. Say, hey man, let's get on the call, let's squash this. But I think Dwight tried to say, didn't Dwight say he'd like to have a conversation? Look, I don't know if it doesn't really need to be on the podcast.

These two men can have it. It's private. We don't know if it doesn't really need to be on the podcast these two men can have No, you pay y'all go to a privacy a bro what's the deal with me what's going on I Mean being Superman you Superman you big superman it ain't that serious because Marvel comic owned it all So it's not like it's not like we can really copyright the name. Y'all benefit off of it. Yeah. So that's what I'm getting. I just like, look, it's enough.

I just hate. And I've been like, man, I ain't going to go back and forth with people that look like me in my community and go back and forth. Why? Well, hey, since you feel like that, I'm glad you feel like that. So I ain't got to pay your money, man, ain't gon- Oh no you ain't running my money! Huh? Run me the ass! You just said we got to go back and forth you don't want to go back- No we ain't gonna go back and forth you gonna go to the bank and bring your ass forward with my

money that's the only back and forth I want to go with. I don't know I don't know what you talking about. No they ain got to do that. Lightning energy. Hold on. Now your energy change. No, my energy is you've been talking about your, first of all, you owe me more money too, but I let that slide. Oh, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Hey, Chad, Chad, Chad, do y'all remember y'all?

Uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, whoa, whoa. Hey, Chad. What are we talking about? Chad, Chad, do y'all remember y'all say, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, Ocho said OBJ, we gonna have X amount of yards. I let that one slide. I didn't even bring that up. I let it slide. But if you don't bring me, if you don't run me my money, pronto, it's gonna be trouble. Trouble. Now come on with it. You have Apple Pay.

Again, let me try this again. Do you have Apple Pay? Do you? I got Ocho Pay. Huh? Apple don't owe me. Ocho owe me. Okay, but Ocho uses Apple Pay, so that is my...

No, I want Ocho to use Ocho Pay. I don't have Ocho Pay. You ain't got Ocho Pay, you better have Ocho Pay. I have Apple Pay. I can pack a Ocho pay. You ain't got Ocho pay, you better have Ocho pay. I have Apple pay. I can pack a pay right now. So what's going to end up happening is you're not going to accept my terms in which I'm trying to pay you.

Whoa, whoa, whoa, wait a minute. How you going to owe the bank and tell the bank they got to accept your terms on which you going to pay the bank? I'm not the bank. I'm the man with the money. I'm the bank! Well, if you're the bank and I'm trying to pay you my money, I'm giving you... Wait, what is... See, you don't want it.

You don't want it. You don't want it. What you been up to? I'm gonna hold on to it for you. How about that? No, you don't... Whoa, whoa. So now you're telling me my money drawing interest in your pocket.

What the fuck is this? What? Hey Chad, where they do that at? Am I missing something? I've missed, clearly I've missed something. Hey, but listen, and you might want to get Apple Pay. It's 20, 25. The fact that you don't have these devices on your phone is beyond me. It ain't like easy.

PayPal, Apple pay cash app. Didn't I just tell you all my TVs, my Netflix account, my Amazon Ash has an email. Sometimes she'd be having to read a child. So she got to turn off one of her TVs so I can watch TV. Okay. I said, hold on, Ash, you watch the TV? How many TVs you got on? See what she's talking about.

It's my account. I said, but I can't watch TV. Okay, you want me to send Ash? Whoa, why Ash? Did you bet Ash? No, I bet you, but you don't have Apple Pay. Okay then, pay me. All right.

Listen, we've been going 10 minutes now, and I'm trying to pay you. We ain't been going nothing. I ain't got no money, I don't see no money. You said money, listen, money out of sight calls a fight, huh? Yeah, absolutely will. Yeah, I mean, listen, I don't.

And it's, no, I'm not, hold on, hold on, listen, my, just download, no, no, I'm not finna change me, I don't got no cash apps. I ain't got all that stuff on my phone. Just download it, download it. I don't know how to download it. My phone don't accept downloads. You got what?

But my pocket, won't you download 4,000 in my pocket? Download that. I'm trying to, but you don't want it. No, you're not. In a minute, listen, you're gonna have to get it in blood, then you're gonna have to get it in the... Oh, yeah, don't mind if I do. Let me take my breath, I want to mess these timidies up.

I'll open you, say that. Let me take it, run. Gee. What? Hold on, give me just a second. Take it to my face and blood. I was hoping. Oh, there it is right there.

I was hoping you'd say that. What? Oh no, man. I was hoping oh daddy right there. I was hoping you say that What you're so low bad That's some oh you gotta take it it blows Hey, hey, I'm the, hey, what you got, you got my stomach hurt. We got these two on chope. Oh, hey, what you got my stomach hurt, man. Nope. Oh, hey, well you got Mustard Murray, man. Nah, please. That was funny. Hey, that ain't gonna be my phone.

You think you gonna play me at the show in New Orleans? Okay, all right, I'm gonna bring cash. I'm gonna bring you cash. Matter of fact, before we start the show, before we start the live show, I'm going to put your money in front of everybody. I so appreciate that. Yeah. Bad.

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Listen to NHL Unscripted with Virkin Demurs and the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. All right. It's time for our last segment of the evening. It's time for Q and A. Rodrigo Brito? Is that a real name? Well, whatever.

Hey y'all, hope y'all been having a great start to the new year Ocho. Pay 4K in pennies. First of all, you don't realize how heavy 4K in pennies is. That's what you don't realize. That's the thing. Cause I had to get a wheelbarrow when I paid Alfred Williams and Susan B. Anthony.

4,000 in pennies, that's a lot of pennies. Oh yeah. He don't wanna do that. He don't wanna do that. He don't wanna do that. Aaron on says, we gotta put a snow in just a day and over half here in Cincinnati. What's the worst weather emergency you witnessed? You know what?

I've been, well you know what? Hurricane Andrew in 1994. I don't know if that, I mean, obviously that counts as, I mean, the worst thing I've been, well, you know what, Hurricane Andrew in 1994. I don't, I don't know if that, I mean, obviously that counts as, I mean, the, the worst thing I've been in is Hurricane Andrew. It, it messed Miami up. It messed Miami up. It's down south up. Um, yeah.

Home standard. Yeah. Oh, oh my goodness. It was, it was bad. I mean, that was the worst thing I've been into. I've been, I've been in an earthquake a few times in LA, but nothing, you know, to the magnitude of what Hurricane Andrew did to us down here in South Carolina.

Yeah, obviously if you're in the South, you got tornadoes and you get hurricanes, or Hurricane David. Were you sure Andrew was in, in 94, Andrew might've been in 92, Ocho. Well, I mean, 92, I'm putting one up. Look it up, I think it was 92, because we ended up going down there and playing.

We played, I played a celebrity, Ultimate Frisbee thing down there. It was 92. Okay. Yeah. But Hurricane David, I was in the ice storm in Atlanta when they, when it locked the whole city. We have, we have no, no snow trucks, no nothing. Cause we've never had anything like that before. And they gridlocked the city.

Uh, that might've been 20, was that 2014? Wait, hold on ice. That, that ice storm, we had an ice storm in Atlanta. I think it was 2014. The city wasn't prepared for an ice storm? No, hell no. Because we don't get no snow like, we don't get no weather like that in Atlanta. We prepared now. They got snow trucks that salt trucks and stuff like that.

But boy, that thing locked the whole city down. Oh, I'm telling you, I went on show because I was, trucks and stuff like that. But boy, that thing locked the whole city down. Oh, I'm telling you, I went on show because I was, because that was the year the Subo was in New York and I was supposed to go and, uh, my flight was at 430. And it was, it started, I was like, man, let me go ahead and go. So I left my house at 1 PM to go catch a 430 flight. house at 1 PM to go catch a 430 flight. I missed the flight. By the time I got off the interstate and got back and turned around, I walked to my house at 6 AM, 6 AM that morning.

6 AM. That's how bad the traffic was. Yeah. Lee. When I say in lock the city down, if you were in Atlanta that time, you know exactly what I'm talking about. Locked it.

Hey, it was worse than freak me. God. Pat Doum said, how you holding up in LA and what are your thoughts on another round of Evans versus Latimore? Oh yeah. Man, that thing will be epic. Yeah, it's gonna be nice. Nah, I'm not.

Is he gonna be playing on y'all? I thought he was Nick. Yeah, Latimore was hurt last week, I'm not sure. You know, if he's going to play this game. I'm hoping he does, because I think, when I think about the commander's secondary, the only person that will be able to match up well against Evans is, is Latimore.

It is Latimore. I think Latimore should also ask, I'm not sure who the D coordinator is for the commanders. He should also ask to follow Evans wherever he goes. Yeah, with the lockdown of the city, back to what I'm saying, I had a generator. So my whole house was operational. I was the only one on my block, the house was operational.

Cause I had a generator. So like if the power goes out, within five seconds my generator run, and it'll run, just continue to run. Okay. And if something goes wrong, it'll signal, send a signal out and they'll come, you know, if it needs gas or whatever the case may be.

But I was, I was great. You know, great, great, great, great. Ran out of food. Hold on, you had anybody over there with you or you were solo? No, I didn't have anybody come on. I offered my neighbors right across the street from Mr. Charles and Miss Mary.

Rest of us old Miss Mary passed a couple of years ago. But I always looked after them. So I always made sure they was okay. I would go check on them. If I hadn't seen them in a couple of days, I'd go knock on the door. The dogs loved him. I let the dogs out and they see Mr. Charles in his yard.

They run across the street and he'd pet him and everything like that. But, uh, but no, no, no one came over. I think we were out of power. We were probably out of power about three or four days. I think a lot of people went and got hotels on Joe. So, but, uh, no, I was, you know, I always check on them. I said, if they need anything, cause they're an elderly couple, uh, didn't have the kids weren't really wasn't around. I mean, they would come, but by the elderly couple. Didn't have the kids, weren't really, wasn't around.

I mean, they would come, but by the time it was gonna be a couple of days, cause I think they had one, like they had like two daughters, I think. One was in Jack's bed, I don't know where the other was, but you know, but I looked out for them. Sheridan Pope said, Oh Joe, your knowledge of basketball over the year

has improved tremendously. You admitted yourself, your knowledge of basketball, not up to par, but listening to you, on point, first take, ready for you. Hey, I'm like George Sadano, you know? I'm like George Sadano, I'm like, oh, rap then one, you know, with a little bit of Doris Burke, you know? That's me.

Ocho, you know what time it is? What is 9 PM West coast time. Yep. So that means it's your birthday. East coast time. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

You see, you see vibrating, you know, we celebrate. You can't see me. Where you go? So, chat, y'all wish happy birthday. Happy birthday to Ocho. Yeah, yeah. It's what 57 look like, you hear me? Huh?

It's what 57 look like. Too bad you ain't be able to shake the covers on your birthday. Ha ha ha ha ha. Oh nothing, don't worry about it. Oh, oh, oh, I could shake some cover in that cause I got- I see you back. I see you, I see that night cap sign.

Yeah, I'm at my place. Now listen, I can- No, you at your place. You at that place. No, no, no. Remember, I'm on my left. I'm at, this is a new spot. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't play, I don't play.

You know, I gotta stand on business. Yeah, now if you see that Christmas tree behind me, then you know where I'm at. You there the other day? Yeah, I was there the other day. Yeah. Uh-huh. Yeah, they begged me to come over. Yeah, old boys demand old Ben to be, you know what?

Not me, not me, oh, bendy knee. You know what? Not me. Not me, because I said it on business. Hey, Sam, Nightcap, you guys doing great work. When there's a dull moment, you guys are here keeping it real and motivating. I effin' love you, Ocho. Hey, I love you too, sir. Hey.

I love you too. He don't ruin me my money. Ain't going to be much to love on him. Oh, oh, oh, hey. He ruin me my money. Ain't gonna be much to love on him. He need to break bread. NFL matchup highlights says, once I'm on the show, just wanted to know y'all thoughts about Sean Taylor and how he compared to Ed Reed, Troy Palamalo.

He was, or if he was even better. I remember Ocho saying, Sean gave him multiple concussions. Yeah. Look, I retired. The year he got drafted, Sean Taylor got drafted, I retired. So I didn't play against him.

Right. He was a phenomenal player. He was good. The greatest safety that I ever played against that I took off on film is Ed Reed. Yeah. Now that's not a knock on no other safety. And I'm sure there are some great ones.

Troy, I played against Troy as a rookie, but Ed Reed is the greatest safety that I ever saw with my own two eyes that I ever took off on film. Yeah, listen, obviously I had to deal with Ed for a decade straight, man, two times a year. Ed probably the greatest safety of all time. Troy Palamalo is right up under there. If I was a 1A and 1B, it would be Ed and Troy.

Obviously I've watched many safety before my time. Obviously I didn't get a chanceA and 1B, it would be Ed and Troy. Obviously I've watched many safety before, before my time. Obviously I didn't get a chance to play against them. But what Ed was able to do out there on that field, man, sideline to sideline and just his understanding of the game. It was unbelievable. Sean Taylor was different. He was physically imposing. Yeah, he was a big man. 6'3", 220, could run, yeah.

Yeah, he just stood. He was good. I think he was taken from us too early because we were able to see him reach his full potential. Yeah, you just wanna know what, you saw what he was trending towards. Oh yeah. Let's just say he has a 12, 13 year career.

Then we could fully evaluate what he was. We saw where he was headed, but I've never seen a saint to take the ball away like Ed and turn it into points. And it wasn't good enough for him to take the ball away. He wanted to turn it into points. It wasn't good enough for him to take the ball away. He wanted to turn it into points. Whether he punched it out and scooped it up himself, whether he picked it, whether he bonked a punt, whether he ran a punt back. I've never seen a guy turn defense into offense like Ed Reed could. And listen, if he can't score, he gonna pitch it back. They're pitching the ball back 100 times just to make sure they make it to the end zone. Young Willie Will said, what's up, Shannon Ocho? Can I get a birthday shout out? back 20 times just to make sure they didn't make it to the end zone.

Young Willie Will said, what's up, Shannon and Ocho? Can I get a birthday shout out? Yes, you can, Willie. Happy birthday. You and Ocho share a birthday. But if Ocho don't ruin me my money, get the last one. That's it. Listen, I hold them hands. I hold them.

I hold them hands work now. As a matter of fact, I had them updated yesterday. Ha ha ha. Just in case. Just in case. Cupcake Mama said, hey, guys, my birthday was yesterday. May I get a shout out? I spent it quiet.

I spent it quiet and solo. I'm just grateful and thankful for another year. Happy early birthday, Ocho. Yes, ma'am. Cupcake mama. Happy belated birthday. You know, sometimes it's okay to spend a birthday nice, quiet, you know, all that hullabaloo, you know,

hey, that's how I am. I like to spend a nice little quiet evening, you know, maybe shake the covers if I can, if I'm lucky. You know, I ain't been lucky to lay a couple of birthday, but it's okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah Yeah I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go lighten me a cigar man right now turn on some Frank Sinatra you know relax on the bathroom kicking my feet up and you know, think about the good time think about the younger years and and

And thank God, you know for seeing. What you can't do no more. What? Play football? J213 said, hey Uncle Nocho, hope all is well. I pray you had a great holiday season. My question is, is which social media platform do you think is the most detrimental to society? Look, man. I mean, shoot, society was- There's good and bad. There's good. I mean, society was- There's good and bad.

There's good, I mean, there are some good things. There are some good aspects about social media, but there are also some bad things. And people sometimes you, and that's always the case. People have always, anything that was made for good, people have some way found a way to turn it into bad. And that's just who we are as a society. That's just the way society is.

All the misinformation, all the hatred, and all the vitriol that gets spread through social media. Somebody says something, because before Ocho, before social media, when you printed something, like newspaper, you had to get a couple of sources, two or three sources. It had to be vetted. Right.

Or because you was worried about, you know, you were worried about getting sued for defamation and liable. Now on social media, man, that thing's spreading whatever. Yeah. And if you're a public figure, it's harder to sue for defamation and liable. And they know that because you are a public figure.

So they'll say things and they try to skirt and try to parse it with certain things. But we just, man, we just, we've become angrier. We've become more hateful, more spiteful. Yes. We just don't care for one another. And it's sad that this is what it's come to. You gotta adapt with the times, baby.

You gotta adapt with the times. Dr. Frankie L. Bellamy said, congrats on being nominated for Entertainer of the Year by the NAACP. I'm proud of you. Happy birthday to my first cousin, Ocho. Doc, thank you so much. It's an honor to be nominated

for the NAACP Entertainer of the Year Image Award. A lot of hard work winning that. Congratulations to the team at Club Cheche for the hard work that you've done. Appreciate all your hard work, CJ and your staff over there. So man, congratulations and thank you guys because none of this is possible without you.

Be it Nightcap Club, Shay Shay, me being on first take, whatever my ventures are, you guys have been very, very supportive. So I wanna thank you for making all this possible. And I remember at the end of 23, I said that 24 is gonna be great. It's even better than I could have imagined. Better, way better, way, way, way, way better. And so thank you guys.

Thanks doc again. Thank you NAACP for the nomination. Congratulations to all the nominees. Everybody is deserving. But I wanna thank the fans because you guys made it possible. Blam! What's up, Uncle Nocho?

My name is Deshawn and today's my birthday too. I'm shaking covers and smoking cigars all weekend long. How do you guys like to celebrate birthdays? Much love, B-boy, go flop. Happy birthday, Deshawn. Happy birthday. Man, I'm just quiet. I want to go get a workout that morning.

Obviously, you know, my family's going to call. The kids are going to call. My brother's supposed to call my mom. Always call me. She calls on the phone. Tell my, Shannon, you know who this is? No, mom, I have no idea who this is. So she go call me when she's happy birthday.

But you know, go work out, just go, nice, nice. I ain't no big celebratory guy. Oh no, I think we're the same, we're the same. I don't, you have to beg me to even have a dinner. You better surprise me or trick me into thinking we doing something. I'm not into that. I'm not doing no clubs, I'm not doing no parties, I'm not doing any large gatherings. Give me a cigar, give me some coffee, cafe, go and let you.

Give me a latte, give me some Starbucks. Let me kick my feet up, listen to some music, smoke me a cigar and I'm content. Obviously, now on my birthdays, I go see my grandma, my mama at the graveyard, sit there, talk to them, talk to them for a little bit. Outside of that. They buried next to each other? Yep, right next to each other.

Yeah. Yeah, so, I mean, that's it. I'm good. Dominique Fong, shout out to Ash, got that La Porte order figured out, only matter of time till we paired that with them Sparks, thunder and lightning. He he he he he.

Yeah, the thing, those little Sparks, now the Sparks, they got it right, that's the right name for them. Sparks. Now, Fah. You gotta get me some of them. Today was my birthday. Happy birthday. Hey, don't vote. Hey, oh Everybody got a birthday I'll be I mean

Capricorn season Yeah, so AJ Zamora sup Uncle know Joe big fan day one supported love with with CM Punk and the other night. Happy birthday, Uncle Love from Texas. Salute. That's it. To everyone celebrating a birthday today, happy birthday. Hopefully, hopefully you do something fun, you enjoy,

you spend it with family, friends and loved ones, and you realize, yes, you was born on this day, 25 years ago, 35 years ago, 40 years ago, whatever the case may be, just be thankful that God allowed you to see another one. Because there are a lot of people that had an appointment and they didn't get an opportunity to reschedule it. So happy birthday, hopefully it was safe,

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We got guests lined up. You don't want to miss this one. This is going to be epic. And it's Super Bowl weekend. Our hearts go out to everyone impacted by the fires in Los Angeles. Hopefully you're safe. I know a lot of people that have lost homes, cars, possessions, lost everything, but you still have life and that can't be replaced. So our hearts and thoughts and prayers go out to everyone impacted by the fires, the wildfires that's ravaging Los Angeles and surrounding areas.

The Cavs in the Thunder 15 game win streak. And there was a battle between the league's two top teams. The Cavaliers moved to 32 and four. Okay, so the Thunder fall to 30 and five. The Cavaliers win 129 to 122. They got a big outing from Jared Allen, who had 25 points, 11 rebounds and six assists. Evan Mobley had 21 points, 10 rebounds and seven assists.

And they needed it because Donald McNaughton had a cold night shooting. He was three or 16 from the floor, two or seven from the field, from the three point line and he only had 11 points. But Darius Garland chipped in with 18, Wade had 11, and Ty Jerome had 15, Max Cruz had 17. As they win, 129, 122, snap,

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