Club Shay Shay - Nightcap - Hour 2: Pat Bev discusses why he doesn’t like NIL, Kyler Murray wants to run more & things black people take seriously!

Episode Date: April 10, 2025

Shannon Sharpe, Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson and Pat Beverly react to the NIL making college players stay longer, Kyler Murray wants to run more next season & a video goes viral of what bl...ack people take seriously & much more!!04:22 - Pat Beverly on NIL10:45 - Kyler Murray wants to run the ball more13:14 - Ohio senator only wants to give money to winning teams14:43 - Things Black people take seriously20:37 - Q&Ayyy(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:03:28 That's semi-pro. That's semi-pro. That's all that beats. Right. Like, if you actually think about it and break it down, that's semi-pro. Right. And it's crazy, because three years ago, everybody crying about, yeah, get an athlete, yeah, get a college player, man, they need to get paid. I'm all with anyone doing anything you love you can get paid to do it do it
Starting point is 00:03:49 I'm with it right until it hurts the game when I watch our been play it felt like It felt like and they end up losing but in the beginning of the game it felt like grown man going against teenage right get in the game, it felt like grown man going against teenagers. Right. Right. And if, and like, and I was a kid that had to go through college, 18, 19 year old, we all know who Steph Curry was in my class. We already know Kevin Durant. He's like, all these guys in my class, you want to host this class, you took your class
Starting point is 00:04:18 seriously. Right. You feel me? How am I still in college cooking and you in the NBA cooking and we in the same class? Right. How y'all older than OKC? Yeah. And you telling me like, and you want, you and people wonder like, man,
Starting point is 00:04:37 it wasn't a lot of buzzer beaters. Yeah, because it's grown and playing now. And a lot of one shot and moments no more. Remember in college basketball, you know how many uh uh uh three two one somebody shoot from half. Man this man is semi-pro. Semi-pro man and it's gonna hurt the NBA. That's what it's gonna do. Pada we'll get you out on this one. You being a Chicago native, give me your top five players to come out of Chicago. Give me your top five players to come out of Chicago. Ooh!
Starting point is 00:05:06 Man, gotta go D-Rose. Yeah. D-Rose, that's one. Gotta go D-Rose. That's off the top. Gotta go D-Rose. I'm kinda different, so I'ma go, hey, uh, listen, I know a lot of these people your friends,
Starting point is 00:05:21 so what I call Chicago might be kind of different than what people call Chicago. A lot of people might say they from Chicago but I ain't never seen them up and walk down the street. Feel me so my Chicago very different than a lot of people's Chicago so I'm gonna start I'm gonna start with D-Rose right I'm gonna start with I'm gonna start with Isaiah Thomas. Okay that's two.'s it was a guy back in the day. I don't know if y'all know his name was Benji will be in G It's right He's the one who stars a lot and he don't get enough credit I'm putting him in there
Starting point is 00:05:58 Okay, right now it gets it gets kind of it gets kind of funny, right? It gets kind of funny. Because you can go Michael Finley, right? You can go Quentin Richardson, Antoine Walker. You can go right now, but I'm not. I'm going to go Will Bynum. Wow. Will. What he did in high school was electric.
Starting point is 00:06:23 I've never seen anybody, he's probably the best high school player that ever came out of Chicago. Wow, cause he had like 30 something, didn't he? Yeah. We'll buy. Look, he went to Crane. Yeah, I'm talking about,
Starting point is 00:06:35 I was a kid running up to the school. I'm running up to school, hoping to get in the game, right? Hoping to get in the game. And then I gotta go, I gotta go, I gotta give it to him. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it I got it. I got to give it to I got to give it to It's tough cuz I can go I can go Anthony Davis. I can go D Wade I can go, you know, but I'm talking about the Chicago Chicago
Starting point is 00:06:58 So I go I go Anthony Davis. I go Anthony Davis Wow But my Chicago different though. That's all. You feel me? Like the other people that say they're from Chicago, it's, it's a 45 minute, 30, 33 minute drive. Why? You gotta be from the South side of the West side to be considered Chicago. That's all I'm saying. That's all. And I don't want to step on nobody toes because there's a lot of people that say they came
Starting point is 00:07:25 out of Chicago, but from the West Side of Chicago, only person that I kind of know that went to the NBA is me. From Chicago. Right. Right. I got you. I got you. That's all.
Starting point is 00:07:40 So, so, but if you want to go other Chicago, I'm going to go D Wade. I'm going to go, I'm going to go Anthony Davis. I'm going to go D Rose. I'm going to D Wade, I'm gonna go Anthony Davis, I'm gonna go D Rose, I'm gonna go Isaiah Thomas, I'm gonna go Antoine Walker, I'm gonna go those guys. Yeah. But if you want to be- Thank you for joining us.
Starting point is 00:07:56 Hey guys, make sure you go follow Pat Beff and subscribe to his podcast, The Pat Beff and Rhone on YouTube. Make sure you go follow. Pat Beff is on on YouTube make sure you go follow Pat Beff is on Twitter, which is X. What's your handle on Twitter? Uh, uh, I Don't know, you know same thing Pat Beff 21 subscribe to the pot pot Pat Beff pot with Barstool Which I do have being 21 Pat Beff 21 real easy guys. Make sure you go follow this podcast Pat Beff with Rome on YouTube Pat thanks for joining us man. We got to get you back to join us man for the play. I'll come back and join us, bro
Starting point is 00:08:28 And now I like a lot. I got it. I got to give me some of that some of that drink and I ain't the one The big I'm the one I'm the one about my own Almost I'm a senior case Just about my own first. Let me buy my own first. Okay. Yeah, let me spend some money. I'm gonna spend it on Corona. Let me spend it with you. Okay, that's what's up. I promise you.
Starting point is 00:08:49 I promise you. This is the best cognac. This is the best VSOP cognac you're gonna drink. I promise you. Oh, love that. Love that. I appreciate that. Pat Bell, thanks for joining us, man.
Starting point is 00:08:58 Wish you best of luck. Because Nocho's Big O'Lads. Appreciate you, gang. Appreciate you, brother. All right, boy. All right, man. Jack, give it up for Pat Bell, man. Hey, man, that was amazing, no joke. Pat Bell was amazing.
Starting point is 00:09:09 Hey, I enjoyed that, man. That was very, very informative, man. Very informative. You know, for me, Unc, for me, Unc, and you know, you've been around basketball for a very long time. You understand the game, the intricacies of it, much, much better than I do,
Starting point is 00:09:23 but to hear those that have played NBA for a long time They hit him break the game down and just talk about the game with such passion and enthusiasm No, but that's that's that's a joy It's a joy just to sit back in and we and watch and when watch Pat's face light up when he talks about certain topics Certain topics and certain things that that's dope man. I really enjoyed it. I was unbelievable things. That's dope, man. I really enjoyed that. Yeah, that was unbelievable. All right, let's transition, get to some football. Kyler Murray says he wants to run the football more next season.
Starting point is 00:09:50 Let's take a listen to what Kyler had to say, Ocho. Yeah, I mean, like the people out there, they're like, Kyler doesn't want to run or he wants to. Like, how do you dispel that? Because I just look at it's just part of the offense. Yeah, I actually, you know, conversations and I don't want to get too scheme-based about it, but like, I do feel like I have to run more next year. You know, I'm opening to, I'm open to running more next year. Just because it's such a, it's such a weapon, you know, it's such a weapon. It's, you know, defenses, it's like when I hand the ball off, obviously I hand the ball off to James. So it's not like, you know,
Starting point is 00:10:21 I hand the ball off to Trey, I hand it, you know, we're a very good rushing team, which is a great thing. But when Lamar hands the ball off, everybody's like, oh, like, you know, you take it, you can relax, you know, Josh hands the ball off, ah, you know what I mean? So I think for us, part of the emphasis going into the next season is conceptually on time. I feel like I'm one of the best in the league.
Starting point is 00:10:47 I like that. Me too. I remember there were some coaches that played that said he didn't want to run. Now he said and he's right the most dangerous player the most dangerous is when he has the ball in his hands Lamar is the most dangerous when he has the ball in his hands when you don't know what he's going to do. You pray he throws it. You pray Josh Allen throws it. You ain't trying to get, you're not trying to get see any of those guys. Josh Allen 6'6, 250. Lamar Jackson. Oh man. Yeah. Ain't no telling. I like it. I like it because when you think about what Colin Murray is able to do, I think he's also become a quarterback that, you know, he's a dual threat.
Starting point is 00:11:32 You know, he can play off-script, he can pull the ball down and use his legs, but he's one of those quarterbacks who also wants to throw first. You know, he wants to hurt you with his arm first, and then if I have no choice, then I use my legs actor. I think he wants to be seed and viewed in the same light as Lamar Jackson's, as Josh Allen's and other dual threat quarterbacks around the NFL. I think that he hasn't had the team success that they have, you know, being able to reach, be able to reach the playoffs consistently year in and year out. But I think allowing him to do that more and being able to use his legs a little
Starting point is 00:12:05 bit more to help them out offensively would be tremendous, you know, for Arizona. I agree. I agree. Oh yeah. Ohio Senator Bill DeMora wants to allow public money. Oh, let me take this back. Wants to not allow public money from going to a professional sports team, unless they've had a winning record three of the last five seasons.
Starting point is 00:12:30 The Browns are asking for $600 million from the state to build a new stadium. That stadium ain't gonna get built there. Hey, listen. JVD, you have to come out of their pockets. Hey, based on what he said, it's definitely not getting built. That's not going to happen and I think this is gonna be a dome too, huh? It's gonna be a dome but it's gonna be an outdoor stadium still. I don't know why in a situation like that, now you neutralize one of your greatest
Starting point is 00:12:59 strengths which is the weather. Can you imagine putting a dome in green but putting a, you know they was talking about putting a dome in Chicago. Why? I mean, now you, you bring, that's the whole thing. How you got the name monster to the midway. You bring them, bring them off that Lake Michigan. Let that water blow in a little breeze. It's 10 below.
Starting point is 00:13:18 It's 15 below. Same thing in Lambo. Yeah. Yeah. I got you. I don't, I don't know. I don't know. But, but you know, at time, especially in today's era, you're putting your own team at a disadvantage. Yes.
Starting point is 00:13:31 You're putting your own team at a disadvantage. Well, he want to make sure, he want to make sure. Ha ha ha ha ha. Dang, they don't save money going to that. A man made a list of things black people take seriously. Ocho, let's take out this. Let's check out this list. Let me see that.
Starting point is 00:13:49 Let me see that. Let me see that. Let me see that. They're about to start taking the class for things black people take seriously because this list is the must and all. I'm telling you because man, the check, if you mess up on the black person's check, I promise you they will become a mathematician. They will carry the one, add that.
Starting point is 00:14:08 Hey, I forgot one penny. Y'all forgot one penny. Y'all playing with me. That's number one. And who did the body? That is the most ultimate. Black people will say it out loud. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:14:18 Why you do grandma like that? Why she look melted? Why did they put her in the oven? Why she on 350 bake? You know what I'm saying? Turn that heat down. They don't even look like grandma. I'll tell you, this is probably when people take off running. That's when I was like, oh, that's your name.
Starting point is 00:14:49 If you said what, you was dying and come back to life again. Yeah. Hey, I like them. Listen, the first one is the most important. The first one is the most important. Obviously that check, but number two for me, his number two was cool. But obviously his number two was, I think if I'm not mistaken, was about who did the body. That's number three. Know who over there. You call somebody. Hey, you get who over there. Who all over there? We didn't know who all over there because it's a bull job.
Starting point is 00:15:16 I ain't going. Yeah. I know before that is if somebody cooking and the first thing you ask somebody to ask every time would have been number two for me. Well, who cooking the yams? Well, who cooking the greens? The potato salad and the bag thing you ask somebody gonna ask every time would have been number two for me well who cooking the yams well cooking the greens back of cheese yeah he looked just like yourself how they supposed to look like a horse I mean that's him and that's old folk man at the, when old folk go to the funeral, they go to the wake and they see the body,
Starting point is 00:15:47 that's the first thing they say. Who did the body? Every time. Yep. Who made a potato salad if we take off running? Drinking and eating out the people. Remember I told you that old joke? Oh yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:00 No, no. Oh no. Splitting poles. You know what I'm saying? Hey, we be bare. Hey, come back around here man. What, oh you'll no. Splitting Paul. We can be bare at me. Hey, come back right here, man. Well, you'll walk back around the pole. You're not split. No pole.
Starting point is 00:16:10 Oh yeah. Side. We want to save size. Can't put the yes. Oh, the purse being Luther skating, Luther definitely can't get no baby. No haircut before he won. Can't do that. Call the elder by the first day. Nah, Mr. Such a such they Can't do that. Call the elders by their first name.
Starting point is 00:16:26 Nah, Mr. Such as such. They couldn't be about that might not be about five, six years old. You, it's always Mr. Miss. Yeah. Yes, sir. No, sir. Yes, ma'am. No, ma'am.
Starting point is 00:16:35 Absolutely. Yeah. Uh, yeah. Can't sweet to tell you being offered a bag after purchase. I hate when people like, I got like $70 worth of stuff would you like a bag? No I'm gonna carry this issue out of my arms. What the hell you think? Hold on that and that you know you go to certain places now in certain stores and you buy clothes on you gotta pay 10 cents for the bag? They ask you want a bag?
Starting point is 00:17:01 Well obviously I do because I'm not gonna be able to carry all this stuff out of here Then what you're talking about? Well, that'll be ten cents Well, and if some store though Joe if you bring your own bags, they won't they won't bag it I said what now you go ahead and do that. I don't work here. What the hell you talking about? Yeah, man, hey And it's like well, I don't know I'll stay right there Would you like to get another one? Yeah, you could go get it, but I'm not finna walk back over there and get another one. Right.
Starting point is 00:17:31 Y'all don't even think I'll work here. Y'all work here. I done did my part. I came to the counter. But yeah, bro, I agree with these. Clothes on the bed, dog. You can't put clothes on the bed. You have some good ones now. Some good ones.
Starting point is 00:17:49 Yeah. Yeah. He did a survey with us to find out what we don't be doing. What's up everyone? It's Greg Rosenthal and I'm teaming up with the king of spring, Daniel Jeremiah. He requires me to say that. We're going to be bringing you 40s and free agents, the only podcast you'll need this
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Starting point is 00:18:52 Okay, yeah, Freddy, Freddy, Freddy Gives, Freddy Gives watching, man. Salute, ma'am. My brother, Freddy Gives, watching the show. He said me, he said that to me. He told me to send it to you and he said, he said, Lakers in five. And he said, he said, the link is in five. All right, Music Queen said, Ocho, I was laid off two weeks ago and still have to spend money to turn,
Starting point is 00:19:16 spend some money to tell you to turn your mofo boost mobile light on. You never turn your nightcap light on ever. What the F? But this is, hold on, hold on hold on this is this is the thing right now look real quick You can see it looks good. It looks good. It's just lit up because my room is all black So if there's still pops and if I if I light if I turn the light on Then it's gonna distort the lighting is not gonna be clear as you can see right now You can still see it said nightcap. You can see the booth presented by boost mobile. Very very clear. That's all
Starting point is 00:19:51 The people paying us money, let's come on now, let's be professional turn the light on Okay, when you get to the new place if you move it to the new place, let's put the light on. Yeah Yeah, this is my lab. It's my lab right here moving forward. Can we put the light on? Oh Joe? I don't think that's asking too much Yeah, yeah, this is my last night here. Moving forward, can we put the light on, Ocho? I don't think that's asking too much. I mean, think about it. You complained about us not having a title sponsor. We get a title sponsor and they ask us, could we do these signs?
Starting point is 00:20:22 Yes. And now you don't want to turn the side. Oh All right, you you don't see you're gonna be looking for a little funny, oh Joe does mine look funny Yeah, look it it looked like all the nice Oh Aaron Orrin says I guess is Russell Wilson on his verge of playing his way out of the Hall of Fame Or has he done enough that he will make it regardless? He's not playing, but he's making it regardless. I mean, what he's done in the past, you can't undo that. Uh.
Starting point is 00:20:53 Because it's not going, it's not going the way it should be now. No. I think the thing is, look, I don't think Russell's the first ballot. Um, that's reserved Aaron Rodgers, uh, the Mahomes when he retired. I think he's done enough. Ocho, I don't know. I think he has like over 300 touchdowns. He's probably close to 50,000 passing yards.
Starting point is 00:21:15 Although 50,000 passing yards, it used to be the barometer. Now you got guys with 60 and 70,000 with Brady. It's gonna be very, very interesting to see. Tiffany Williams says, got my meet and greet tickets for Detroit show. Hope to see y'all all there. Tiffany, you will definitely see us there. Thank you so much for your support
Starting point is 00:21:37 and make sure you let us know. Hey, I'm Tiffany. Talk to you guys on the chat and on nightcap. Let us know. Thank you, Tiffany. We really appreciate that. Six foot eight Aquarius, crunching much, captain crunch, fourth period lunch.
Starting point is 00:21:56 Lakers and five. Lakers and five. Jerome, Kamani, let them know, it doesn't matter if it's puka nukua, luka with hooka, or hawk toy. That's a good one. Hey, Scootypuff said quarter brick, half a brick, a whole brick. Ah, Legos and Pies.
Starting point is 00:22:19 Kemper Norwood Jr. says, now that the game is over, we have a great chance in the playoffs and please don't let Kendrick Perkins ever do another Stephen A's list on first take. Love you guys. I don't know, he left Lakers off, he left Houston off. Right. Now, Houston has the second best record,
Starting point is 00:22:42 Lakers have the third best record. And he put, what did he put up there? He put Golden State, he put the Clippers, and he put somebody else over the Lakers. I'm like, man, you high. Tony and GC, Uncle Nocho, if you're the GM for the Nuggets, what would be the first couple of things doing
Starting point is 00:23:04 to give Joe some help? And do you think the nuggets, he's a nugget for life still after the coaching change? Bro, they just won a championship two years ago. Yeah, that's crazy. I mean, think about it. Nick Nurse won a championship, gone. Frank Bogle won a championship, gone.
Starting point is 00:23:24 Mike Boulogne won a championship championship gone. Frank Bogle won a championship gone. Uh, uh, Mike Boulogne won a championship gone. Uh, Mike Boudinhoiser won a championship gone. Who? Talu what? Yeah, yeah, he was fighting Talu won one in 16 it was fired in 18 the Ocho the problem Yoke have another triple WF 10, 12, 10, and 10, is that because it used to be coaches made more than the players. Now the pendulum has swung.
Starting point is 00:23:57 Players make so much more money. And superstar players have always controlled the NBA. This is not anything new. Now the old guard want to make it seem like oh these young guys getting players fired. It's always been like that. Go back and look Bill Fitch and Larry Byrd. Go back and look at Paul Westball, Paul West, uh, West Head and Magic Johnson. It's always been like this. Nothing's changed It's now the pop the players just have more power Because they make so much money
Starting point is 00:24:31 Right a guy making 60 million or a guy making 10 million. You can tell who makes the decisions You just try to be on his bet. You just try to be on his good side It is what it is It is what it is. Shanice Palmer said, my sister and I absolutely love you guys. I'm Ocho and she's, even though we're twins, keep doing the great work, great things guys. We support you regardless. Love all. Shanice, thank you very much.
Starting point is 00:24:58 You too, dad. Tell your sister I really like her. Shanice, I'm kind of, I'm so so on you right now. But you shoulda put your sister name in there so we coulda know who we dealing with. Shanice is Team Ocho and her sister is Team Unk. We love you guys both, thank you for your support. Menace and Unk and Ocho, my favorite chocolate duo.
Starting point is 00:25:22 Looking forward to seeing you in Be More. I'm curious, what value or principle do you hold most dear and how do they guide your approach in both business and romantic pursuit? Oh, mama, you know what? I do everything. I do everything. Oh man, I'm trying to make sure I say it the right way.
Starting point is 00:25:50 Well, it's not great. Oh man, damn, I had it right on the tip of my tongue as soon as I had it, I was like, oh this is a good one. You know, we know when things don't work out, but you meant well by everything you do. Was why you never feel bad. Why you never feel bad because everything you did was with great intention. I'm trying to think if that's the right word. That's not the word I'm looking for. But that's something that I always stood on, always stand on,
Starting point is 00:26:23 was that where I never feel bad throughout the entirety of my years, especially when it comes to business And when it comes to you know relationships as well since she added that added it in there as well I do everything everything from the heart and really want nothing in return Like everything is always genuine yeah always Like everything is always genuine. Yeah. Always. In business, just be straight up with me. Tell me what it is. If it's this, it's this. If it's not, it's not.
Starting point is 00:26:55 That's all I ask. I don't require a whole lot. I like to be left alone. I'm going to come in, I'm going to do my job. If I call you, I really got a problem. Right. If I got a problem, if I call you, I really got a problem. Right. If I got a problem, if I got a problem, if I call you, I got a problem. Let's address it, let's handle it, let's see the best way to move forward.
Starting point is 00:27:11 In my relationship, hey, you don't want to be with me, just tell me. Yep, go hurt. Go hurt, absolutely. But, uh, if you live the long as I have, I promise you you've been hurt. You've been heartbroken before. Mm. Hey, I never forget. You just, ooh, that was triggering. Oh, man. You live long enough, you're gonna be heartbroken. And as I said before, when you don't want to end the relationship, then other person does it hurts you more than it hurts them
Starting point is 00:27:45 Not to say it doesn't hurt them because sometimes in order to change it requires hurt Yeah But I got it think about it. Oh Joe shedding skin is painful, but you know why snake shed the skin Not to change from being a snake to grow That's why when somebody cross you you don't allow them a second chance You know because when a snake sheds its skin, it's not becoming something else. It's becoming a bigger snake Mmm Let me tell you something now you look different I like that story now I said was triggering when you said
Starting point is 00:28:23 About someone actually leaving you and it was triggering when you said about someone actually leaving you, and it was triggering because it brought me back to a story I'll never forget. And I was just telling a friend of mine a story back in 1983. And they always ask, like, you know, Osho, when your relationships have ended all this time, how come you were able to move on with such grace
Starting point is 00:28:40 and not be upset or not be sad? And I told them, listen, I become numb to this stuff because back in 1983, that was the worst pain I ever felt. 1983, I was in elementary school. I would never forget. You're the young lady. And I told this story before earlier, you know, in a few shows a while back
Starting point is 00:28:59 and her and I were dating. And I felt we were in a relationship, even in elementary school nice today Yeah, I never forget North Beach Elementary. I had an eight eight box of Crayola crayons eight box, huh? Every time we sat together and we did coloring I gave you my red crayon. I Left to use my red crayon So I felt we was together you You told me we was together. New dude named Ted
Starting point is 00:29:30 came to our school in the middle of the semester. Obviously it's not a semester because it's only elementary, but he came to our class. Ted had a 64 box of crayon. So she went from using my red crayon to using one of Ted's red crayons because it had multiple shades of the color red in the box. Well, you only had a you only had a pack. Yeah, you know, it was only one red crayon. So he had multiple crayons.
Starting point is 00:30:02 And I mean, listen, it's an it's a testament to how things are today in this world, because, you know, that girl, I never forget her name, her name, Tina. And that let me know when she grew up, if I only had fifty dollars, if a dude with a hundred dollars came along, the chances are she would probably leave me. You know, so ever since that hurt I felt back then, I've been numb ever since then.
Starting point is 00:30:31 Ever since then. It's tough. Relationships are tough. They're not easy. I think everybody has come to that realization and understand they're not easy. It takes a lot of sacrifice. Because it's easier to grow apart than it is to grow together.
Starting point is 00:30:47 You see, in order to stay in a relationship, you've got to want to stay in the relationship. And you've got to be willing to grow every day because that's a new person. The person that you went to bed with last night is not the person you want to wake up with today. Oh, sir. Are you willing to change? Or I mean, because some it's the days that you don't have, that you're not your best and they're not at their best. Cause that's a lot of times what happens, Ocho. They're not at their best.
Starting point is 00:31:13 You're not at their best. You can say, okay, F this I'm out. Cause it's easy to quit. The easy thing you'll ever do with no matter what it is, is to give up. That's the easiest way out. It is. It's a give up. It is. The easiest way. And another thing, especially for the chat. Listen, listen, listen, never do it. No matter what it is, it's a give up. That's the easiest way out. It is. It is.
Starting point is 00:31:25 The easiest way. And another thing, especially for the chat. Listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen to me. Y'all probably listen. You might not like the messenger, but my message is always good. You just don't like it coming from me sometimes. Now, I got 47 years experience, you know, doing this, y'all. But anyway.
Starting point is 00:31:43 Most of the time, when you're going through it with your partner or whoever it may be and things are rocky and you don't know what you should do, let them go. Let them go, because the only way to see someone's true character, I'm talking about their true character and who you're really dealing with is by giving them their freedom
Starting point is 00:32:06 And they'll show exactly what they really want to be doing Every time I'll Give them they freedom Let them go about their business, you know, give them some time give them some space Yeah, cuz space will reveal some of true character now. I know what you always telling me. I Cause stories will reveal some of true character. Now I know what you always telling me. I hear what you're telling me all the time, but you actually show otherwise. I hear better than I see.
Starting point is 00:32:31 Oh man, listen every time. I see better than I hear actually. Because what they're telling you, Ocho, and what you see, that message is not a line. Oh yeah. If I tell you I'm going to come on a certain time and I don't show up, I know what you told me But when I looked at the clock that wasn't the time and you didn't show up at all Come on that Cuz at the end of the look at the end of the day the beginning of the day or whatever
Starting point is 00:32:56 The sunset or whatever the case may be Yes, sir. If you do not want to be with Shannon just tell Shannon that If you do not want to be with Shannon, just tell Shannon that Yeah, I'll do that. Oh ain't nobody ain't nobody finna leave you man But I like I like honestly I like being up front just tell me that and I'm okay with it. Oh Yeah, for real Because here's the thing a lot of times guys in the situation like, oh, that's never happening to me. You're lying. Because it, and the more you invest in something, you see how Luca was emotional?
Starting point is 00:33:34 Oh, yeah. Because he was invested. Oh, yeah. The more you invest in anything, it used to break my heart to lose because I was so invested. And a lot of times I would have to go to myself be alone Mm-hmm. I would say hey, I don't want to be I don't I don't want to see you tonight. Well, what I just know And I would just like I would I would cry and I asked what could I have done? Why?
Starting point is 00:33:59 Did I not play better? It's the same thing in a relationship. Can I replay that? Because see, the mind replays what the heart can't delete. And I asked myself, what could I have done differently? What could I have said differently? Why did I have to respond the way I did in this situation? Why couldn't I be more calm? Why couldn't I be more understanding, more empathetic?
Starting point is 00:34:32 And as the more things you go through, you start to realize, like, okay, Shannon, it wasn't as bad as you thought. You could have handled that a million different ways, and 999,000 of them would have been right. You chose the one that was wrong. It was tough, it's tough. I think the thing for me is that because I've been through so much, because I'm a very private person,
Starting point is 00:34:59 people don't see that. Because I don't live my life, I'm a public figure, I've come to accept that. But I do everything I possibly can to keep as much of my private life private. Oh Joe. So guess what? I can go through things in private. I can grieve in private.
Starting point is 00:35:18 I can celebrate in private. I'm okay with that. I can take my wins and my losses in private Yeah, I like that. That was good. That was good. Yes, sir Man I was good. Well, she happens Cupcake mama good evening guys of the public figure Cuffcake Mama, good evening guys of the public figure. Where do you all go to be fully yourselves with no judgment?
Starting point is 00:35:48 If your love life was a book, what would the title of the last chapter be? Where can I go to be my holy self? Where can I go? Probably if I'm with my brother, my sister, my kids. Probably if I'm with my brother, my sister, my kids. But I'm only like that if I'm in the privacy of my own home. Cause I'm never myself when I'm out in public. Oh shoot.
Starting point is 00:36:16 When I'm with my sister, I'm with my brother, I'm with my kids, I'm straightened up. Because Ocho is just so hard because I feel That every place I go I'm being recorded I'm being filmed Mmm, and I think you have to do that now and some things you learn a hard lesson. So for me, right? Nowhere and I'm okay with that Ocho I'm okay with that, Ocho. I'm okay with that. Hey, I'm, boy, I mean, when I think about it, I'm myself, I'm very comfortable, obviously publicly, you and I are completely different. Listen, we are on two different sides of the
Starting point is 00:37:04 spectrums. You know, I'm very sociable. I'm a social butterfly, which at times has gotten me in trouble. You know, I'm able to be myself in front of crowds. I love large crowds or I can be, you know, be by myself and be alone and be with my kids. I'm able to be myself with my kids, most definitely. I'm able to be myself with whoever it is I'm seeing at that time, where there's a certain level of comfort,
Starting point is 00:37:28 you know, with said individual. I'm one of the few, is it Altavert? Is that what it's called, Altavert? Altavert, introvert, Altavert? No, I'm not. You an extrovert, you're outgoing. Oh, actually, yeah. Oh yeah, I'm too about, period.
Starting point is 00:37:47 I mean, people in the chat, if you met me before, you already know I'm hugging, I'm acting like I know you 30, 20 years, I never met you a day in my life. I'm extremely outgoing, I have a huge personality. So for me, ah man, I'm at my happy place all the time, especially with my baby. I'm the most outgoing introvert you're gonna ever meet right I'm I understand that blah blah blah, but oh Joe when I when I yeah if I'm in a public event
Starting point is 00:38:18 Yeah, I'm talking I'm going from place to place Ocho when I get home, it's like I play the game. I'm exhausted. Yeah. I'm exhausted. I'm spent. Yeah. Mm-hmm. I mean, it's all I can do to take my shoes off, to take my clothes off, to hang them up,
Starting point is 00:38:33 put them in the laundry. I'm exhausted. Yeah. I'm on a plane, Ocho, and I catch people, they're recording me. I'm like, bro. Right. Oh, I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:38:44 Ocho, they asked me, they're talking about, is that a problem? I'm like, bro. Right. Oh, I'm sorry. Hey, I'm... I'm trying to ask you if that's a problem. I'm like, really? Right. Yeah. Really? If you didn't think it was a problem, you would have asked me. Could I take a picture? That's not what you did.
Starting point is 00:38:57 What's up, everyone? It's Greg Rosenthal, and I'm teaming up with the king of spring, Daniel Jeremiah. He requires me to say that. We're going to be bringing you 40s and free agents, the only podcast you'll need this NFL draft season from DJ's mock drafts to my top 101 free agents. We'll have it covered for you with all new episodes every Thursday, keeping you up to date as we head to the NFL draft. Listen to 40s and free agents on the iHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I play into it. Yeah, I catch you recording me.
Starting point is 00:39:37 I'm gonna play into it. I'm gonna walk up on you, tell you turn the camera around and make a whole video. We're gonna make a video together. See I play in the stuff like that instead of me you and I we we we Completely different But you know, you know thing is that I think you just you know, you uh I've learned to accept it that this is a part of it now I've learned accept a lot of things that people don't have a, I'm going to be the top of a conversation.
Starting point is 00:40:09 Yeah. You just deal with it. You just deal with it. I know now, Ocho, what to respond to and what not to respond to. And people want me to respond. They want to get into a verbal back and forth. Right. I'm done with it.
Starting point is 00:40:29 Yeah. I'm done with it. Cause guess what, Ocho? You see that light what's behind us? Yeah. Yes. All that stuff that they say about me, it ain't stopped that one sponsor. Guess what?
Starting point is 00:40:40 Jordan came here and measured. We got another sponsor. We're going to have a light on for that too. Give us a week. Hey, you don't send me one. Not if you don't turn it on. Why must anyone you don't turn down alone or alone? You got to tell me, hold on.
Starting point is 00:40:55 Let me let me know before I do the measurements tomorrow. I'm putting everything up. Hey, this this apartment is empty. Ain't nothing here. I left this here because I still have the Internet. My Internet will be tomorrow. How much space I need to put between the sponsors so I can measure tomorrow?
Starting point is 00:41:08 I don't know. I mean, Jordan just measure mine. We'll see how big it is and we'll let you know. I need to know how many words are in it so I can have everything perfect. I got a big space so I can have all the spark. But Ocho, you don't know the space that you're gonna have the nightcap sign up yet
Starting point is 00:41:26 No, I do it's huge. You got to see you got to see my new game room Oh, you gonna love it. Hey y'all you and Ash and Jordan y'all got to come down here visit. I'm gonna cook for y'all Oh, no, I'm good I'm good And you I just learned and I had to learn the hard way going back and forth with people and they got more out of that than I did. So now I just let it go. Yes sir.
Starting point is 00:41:51 Well you let yours go, I'm firing back. You can go right ahead, cause guess what? Huh? This side. And all the sponsors and the advertisers, they not stop, they haven't stopped. Yeah, oh yeah, ain't gonna never stop. Can't stop, won't stop.
Starting point is 00:42:07 And she's like, you know what? She's like, Shannon, she's like, tell me what it is that they say that gets you in this space. Say how many advertisers or sponsors have you lost? I say, none. Anybody told you they wasn't gonna sleep with you because they said this about you?
Starting point is 00:42:32 I was like, no. She said, so why the F do you care? I was like, now that I think about it, that's a damn good point. Yeah, it is. It is. Yeah, I understand that. I understand that point. You're absolutely right.
Starting point is 00:42:56 Not one sponsor have left because they said that. Mm-hmm. I feel you. Women are still very interested. So, I'm good. Oh, hey, but they still interested? Still. Yeah, I don't wave my white flag. I'm off the market, but I still got somebody for you though. I don't know if you, you know, let me know. I don't want to be too, you know, too, uh, too forward on the show.
Starting point is 00:43:30 What? Yeah, I got, yeah, I got somebody. Oh, can I show love what y'all do? Both as absolute best who would win one-on-one game of basketball. Me. Hold on. Come again. Me.
Starting point is 00:43:48 I don't like the fact that you didn't even that you didn't even take time to think about that first. Me? Now you just heard me challenge Pat Beverly. I don't care about that. And you think you're going to beat me? Yeah I do. I don't think I know I could. And I ain't shot a basketball. I probably shot a basketball one time in the last 35 years. I want you to do me a favor, man. Please, until you see me play, please look at the footage first before you answer because you answered too fast. That's what I got.
Starting point is 00:44:15 I like it. Dr. Frank L. Bellamy, hey fam, I hope I see you starting again that Monday after the Masters on Monday. He'd probably be there. That's like I gotta go to the masters. I'm going to the masters next year Cuz you know the food is still like when they had it back in the 30s when they first started this a Sandwich is still a dollar 50 They have not raised their prices in all the years old Joe
Starting point is 00:44:44 Mm-hmm Now we can get the rest of the economy to take off take out to the man have not raised their prices in all the years, Ojo. Mm hmm. Now we can get the rest of the economy to take off, take out to the masses. We have to be all right. But see, when you got those billionaires paying all those dues, you can do that. Cause you remember how they pulled out because the one year they had the sponsor, I think they, they, they wouldn't let a woman join and all the advertisers they said we don't care they said don't worry about it sponsors we gonna we gonna do it commercial free that's y'all the sponsor came back they're not gonna let you hold them hostage they got too much money at
Starting point is 00:45:18 stake right and that's prime real estate and sponsors understood that. Who are we hurting? We're hurting ourselves. It's like, no, okay, we're gonna, we're gonna go on and do that. Man, that was a great show tonight, Ocho. Hey, we want to thank our very special guest, Pat Bell. Pat, man, appreciate it, bro. You're welcome back anytime. Thank you for adding insight, a perspective from an NBA player. What it's like in the locker room, the expectation, the play, the style of play. We greatly, greatly appreciate that. Unc and Ocho, Nightcap, we're gradually... Now, I want no pimento sandwich. I hate pimento cheese. That ish is nasty.
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Starting point is 00:49:54 Lakers win 112-97. Luka was sensational in his return. Very emotional, but he was able to channel those emotions and have one of his better games as a Laker. 45 points in his return as they win. Thank you for joining us again. I'm Unk, he's Ocho. See you tomorrow night. Good night. I love you guys. What's up everyone.
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